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Huddle Up | Travis Hunter Reps on Both Sides & Other Insights From OTAs · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up by the Field Huttle Group, Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatterick bring you the
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  Speaker 2: JAP Shadwick, John Osier at the Hyundai studios of the
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  Speaker 2: Miller Electric Center and stop the presses. Bucky Brooks is
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  Speaker 2: in person in studio with us this week.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Bucky.
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  Speaker 4: The guys that would come more often if I had invitations,
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  Speaker 4: If you invited me to come every week and be
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  Speaker 4: the show, be on the show live and call it,
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  Speaker 4: I would do that.
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  Speaker 5: Was this a wedding? You need to save the day?
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  Speaker 6: I mean I can't assume.
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  Speaker 2: Man, if I knew if you look at the screen
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  Speaker 2: right now, what name is underneath.
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  Speaker 4: The say like person live in studio, Like it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have the blinking light like live.
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  Speaker 6: Like if if you just told me, like, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it would be nice Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: Nice touch if you were here beside us. The communication
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  Speaker 4: with flow, the chemistry is a little better. Women person like,
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  Speaker 4: we can make some of those things happen potentially.
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  Speaker 7: As far as I have parking is free out. It
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  Speaker 7: is a park.
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  Speaker 6: Just just a little communication, communicate.
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  Speaker 7: Not only is he here, JP, but he's got like
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  Speaker 7: a spreadsheet already.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is his favorite time of years.
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  Speaker 6: It is yours.
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  Speaker 5: Of course.
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  Speaker 7: One of these notes is call home, So I'm not
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  Speaker 7: sure what that one is.
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  Speaker 6: Gotta make gotta make sure. I mean, there's nothing better.
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  Speaker 4: Just buns, smelling the grass, seeing the guys out there
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  Speaker 4: working hard, counting completions and incompletions and all of those things,
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  Speaker 4: tatling them up at the end of the day, talking
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  Speaker 4: about what's in great practice.
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  Speaker 6: It's a lot of fun. Face face Phase three.
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  Speaker 7: One and four JP, and I seen one of four,
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  Speaker 7: I believe on Wednesday Bucky saw Ota five.
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  Speaker 5: So we've got three of five covered.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's five more to go, a three
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  Speaker 2: day mandatory that he can't Ball is ball?
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  Speaker 6: We're getting close.
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  Speaker 5: Ball is not ball? Is not ball?
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  Speaker 6: Is it?
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  Speaker 5: What are we talking about? It's not ball?
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  Speaker 3: What you're seeing out there is not better than nothing.
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  Speaker 5: It's b it's half ball.
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  Speaker 6: Walk run.
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  Speaker 4: It's a precursor to what ball is going to be
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  Speaker 4: when we get to training. Camp is dress rehearsal. We
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  Speaker 4: had helmets on. We're moving around, little competitiveness. We stayed
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  Speaker 4: up and saw Travis Hunter making some plays. I saw
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  Speaker 4: some saw some good things. Trevor Lawrence escaping the pocket,
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  Speaker 4: rolling to his right, dropping dimes.
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  Speaker 6: It's a good day today.
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  Speaker 2: We will talk by Okay, we certainly will. The head
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  Speaker 2: coach talked ball or or BA, whatever the equivalent. Yesterday
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  Speaker 2: after the fourth l t a practice of course, big topic, Bucky.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned his name, Travis Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is getting some practice in both ways, but
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  Speaker 2: not on the same day.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we won't put him in that situation to have
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  Speaker 8: him do that, although I'm sure he'd probably want to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I'm sure, but at the end of the day, it's
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  Speaker 8: trying to you know, he still meets defensively every day
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  Speaker 8: that he's on offense, so he's getting the mental part
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  Speaker 8: of it and being able to catch up on some
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  Speaker 8: of the communication, some of the corrections off the film
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  Speaker 8: from the defensive side of the ball. So he's getting
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  Speaker 8: a lot of the mental and it would probably be
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  Speaker 8: unfair to put him out on the grass and do
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  Speaker 8: both and ask him to go do that and see success.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, later on he went to say that, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: during the season, that's another story. If they get to
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  Speaker 2: that point where he's going to be playing on both
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  Speaker 2: sides in that week, you're going to have to mix
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  Speaker 2: it up during a game week practice. But right now, Bucky,
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  Speaker 2: it's about getting him out there, certainly on the offensive side.
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  Speaker 2: He had one day on the field defensively last week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the Jaguars are taking a
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  Speaker 4: real smart approach when it comes to like easing Travis
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  Speaker 4: Hunter into a potential two way role. What they're trying
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  Speaker 4: to do is make sure you master the one side
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  Speaker 4: of the ball before you kind of get exposed to
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  Speaker 4: the other side. So it's obvious that they view him
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  Speaker 4: as an offensive player first they're putting in with the offense.
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  Speaker 6: He spent a lot of time there working.
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  Speaker 4: On his route running and playmaking, learning all the plays
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  Speaker 4: and kind of getting into that first rotation with the
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  Speaker 4: Yammie Brown and Brian Thomas Junior, but then Brian, but
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  Speaker 4: then on defense, they're trying to kind of get in
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  Speaker 4: his feet wet in terms of some of the fundamentals
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  Speaker 4: and those things. To me talked about it, this reminds
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  Speaker 4: me of what you would do in high school. Like
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  Speaker 4: in high school, people that talk about two way players,
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  Speaker 4: but really most players are one and a half way players,
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  Speaker 4: meaning they start on one side, then they're a part
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  Speaker 4: time player on the other side, depending on the magnitude
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  Speaker 4: of the game. To me, I viewed Travis Hunter as
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  Speaker 4: one of those guys. Some weeks he may play both
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  Speaker 4: both sides with a ton of snaps all the weeks,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe a he's more offense, he may not get
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  Speaker 4: in on defense. To me, he is such a unique player,
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  Speaker 4: such a special playmaker that you want to tap into
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  Speaker 4: everything that he can bring, but you want to make
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  Speaker 4: sure that you keep him fresh and healthy and ready
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  Speaker 4: to rock.
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  Speaker 5: This is a little different, Bucky.
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  Speaker 7: But unfortunately for you, Bucky, we grew up around the
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  Speaker 7: same time and the Washington football team remember in big
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  Speaker 7: games put Darryl Green on punt returns when.
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  Speaker 6: They needed it, when it.
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  Speaker 7: Was time to go in the playoffs, and so it's
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  Speaker 7: a little bit I think like that. I think it'll
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  Speaker 7: be more extensive than that. You know, and I think
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  Speaker 7: this is where you start Travis Hunter, and everything I've
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  Speaker 7: been told is, look, he wants to be doing and
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  Speaker 7: not preparing more. You sort of have to hold him back,
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  Speaker 7: keep him in the cage if you will. There will
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  Speaker 7: be a time where he is he's pulling at the
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  Speaker 7: leash where they're going to want to let him off
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  Speaker 7: of it, and I'll let him go so he can
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  Speaker 7: earn a lot more leeway in this than he's getting
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  Speaker 7: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think the thing that you have to
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  Speaker 4: do is the experienced coaches who've been around the block
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  Speaker 4: a few times, you want to protect him against himself
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  Speaker 4: because right now we can talk about it like we
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  Speaker 4: cared about OTAs and the importance, but there's no need
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  Speaker 4: to max him out and tap him out doing OTA practices.
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  Speaker 4: As we get through training camp and we start getting
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  Speaker 4: into game prep, then it's more important for him to
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  Speaker 4: kind of hone in on whatever role that will be
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  Speaker 4: as a secondary role on defense. But right now, it's
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  Speaker 4: about learning the ins and outs of the offense, understanding
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  Speaker 4: the individual techniques that he needs to know for defense.
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  Speaker 4: But to me, I think this is something that is
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  Speaker 4: easier to pull off in this scheme than in others
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  Speaker 4: because this is you'll hear the words vision and break
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  Speaker 4: zone defense, those things.
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  Speaker 6: To me, it's a c ball get ball defense.
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  Speaker 4: They're not many that can get the ball like him,
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  Speaker 4: And if you put him in a zone one, it
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  Speaker 4: cuts down the amount of running that he does on defense.
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  Speaker 4: But it also plays into his strengths as a ball
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  Speaker 4: catcher because he has great instincts and awareness. Putting him
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  Speaker 4: in his zone on third down, obvious situations, two minute drills,
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  Speaker 4: maybe in the Redson. I think it's easy to carve
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  Speaker 4: out a role for when Travis Hunter gets on the
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  Speaker 4: field on defense.
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  Speaker 5: And it seems.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe by intent or maybe by just because the circumstance, say,
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  Speaker 7: most of his defensive snaps are on third and seven
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  Speaker 7: or longer. The offense will run at times in that,
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  Speaker 7: but it seems like it will keep him from having
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  Speaker 7: to hit a lot and therefore reduces wear and tear.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's scared to hit or won't hit, no,
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  Speaker 7: but you want to limit those opportunities or those times
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  Speaker 7: he needs to do that that would seem to reduce
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  Speaker 7: wear and tear injury, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: Full disclosure. My first disposure to Travis Hunter was when
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  Speaker 4: he was in high school. He was a UTWBOE sensation
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  Speaker 4: as a seven on seven star, like a two way player,
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  Speaker 4: and putting him on third and seven plus or third
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  Speaker 4: now situations, you're basically asking him to do what he
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  Speaker 4: did in high school, which is play seven on seven,
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  Speaker 4: guard the pass, cover receivers, make plays on the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you make tackles on guys that are similar size,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not like you're asking him to get his
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  Speaker 4: nose dirty on the run game consistently to stop.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: From a preservation yeah, yeah, from a preservation standpoint, it's
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  Speaker 4: much easier to mitigate some of the risks of being
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  Speaker 4: a two way player when you don't expose him to
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  Speaker 4: every snap on offense and defense, ask him to be
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  Speaker 4: a guy that's a run stopper on the edge and
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  Speaker 4: those things. I think, Look, with the advent of nickel
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  Speaker 4: dime quarter, as many DB's as you want to put
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  Speaker 4: on the field, there's a way to get him on
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  Speaker 4: the field to allow him to make and make impact
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  Speaker 4: plays without really putting him in that physical grind that
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  Speaker 4: he would be required to be in if he was
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  Speaker 4: a four time dB.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that meeting room is like with Edgar
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  Speaker 2: Bennett running it on the wide receivers.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: Now Edgar Benn is a pro, and so I think
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  Speaker 4: he is. You know, the thing is Eggar when you
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  Speaker 4: talk to him as a civilian, he's gonna be very
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  Speaker 4: soft spoken in those things, but he understands how to
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  Speaker 4: demand it out of players when he needs to.
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  Speaker 6: But he's a great teacher.
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  Speaker 4: I would say, look, John saw him in high school,
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  Speaker 4: like he look he's a self made man in terms
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  Speaker 4: of like how he carved out a nice career for
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  Speaker 4: himself in the league.
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  Speaker 6: Came in as a.
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  Speaker 4: Fullback from Florida's date, makes his way into being a
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  Speaker 4: tailback for the Packers, especially he wins the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: In those things, but he understands how to get guys going.
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  Speaker 4: If you look at his track record going back to
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  Speaker 4: his time in Green Bay, the young receivers that developed,
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  Speaker 4: the toughness that to play with, but more importantly the
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  Speaker 4: running skills and the run after catch stuff that they displayed.
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  Speaker 6: He understands what he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: I think Travis Hunter, Brian thonas junior, all those guys
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  Speaker 4: that are under his direction now they're gonna be much
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  Speaker 4: better players in time.
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  Speaker 7: I have a question for the football theorist, and it's
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  Speaker 7: Bucky russ No. I mean it's I've got a lot
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  Speaker 7: of questions about, well, why are they playing him on
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  Speaker 7: offense over defense? He was more of a defensive player
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  Speaker 7: and all that stuff, And I think it goes beyond well,
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  Speaker 7: that's where Travis wants to play. I think from a
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  Speaker 7: philosophical standpoint with the team, I think it makes sense
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  Speaker 7: in that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that he's going to come in as.
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  Speaker 7: A great route runner when he starts, or even a
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  Speaker 7: polished offensive player. But from a philosophical standpoint with the team,
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  Speaker 7: you've got BTJ one receiver, you have Yamy Brown, who
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  Speaker 7: you love. You're adding an element that is going to
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  Speaker 7: add a level to the offense the defenses have to
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  Speaker 7: try to control. So I think that's where he can
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  Speaker 7: make I don't know what his numbers are going to be,
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  Speaker 7: but it's hard for me to imagine that they're not
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  Speaker 7: more explosive and hard to defend with him on the field.
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  Speaker 7: So I think that's one reason you push him toward offense,
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  Speaker 7: because he can help you get great there faster than
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  Speaker 7: he can help you get great on defense.
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  Speaker 4: I think the best way to do it is using
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  Speaker 4: a basketball analogy. There are differences between shooters and scores.
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  Speaker 4: Shooters are guys who have perfect form. The fundamentals are right,
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  Speaker 4: they look you leave them on catch and shoot opportunities,
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  Speaker 4: they knock it down. Travis Hunter is a score. Travis
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  Speaker 4: Hunter is someone give him the ball and get out
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  Speaker 4: the way. He's gonna find a way to create it.
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  Speaker 4: And like basically that's what they've done. And so if
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  Speaker 4: you want to say James Harden and iverson, however you
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  Speaker 4: want to call it, like he is a bucket getter.
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  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior is your number one receiver. He is
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  Speaker 4: the one that he's the anchor to the passing game.
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  Speaker 4: But what you have around him is another playmaker that
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  Speaker 4: can get it done in a different way.
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  Speaker 6: I would expect if we look at the hit.
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  Speaker 4: Chart at the end of the year, Brian Thomas Junior
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  Speaker 4: is gonna be high end in terms of like the
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  Speaker 4: number of catches and what he does because he's number one.
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  Speaker 4: I think yards for a catch. That's where Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 4: becomes the big time playmaker.
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  Speaker 6: Him and the Yammy Brown. The Jimmy Brown is the
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  Speaker 6: vertical threat.
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  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter as the guy that's the catch and run specialist,
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  Speaker 4: the red zone weapon, the ball catcher. They're dangerous, they're dynamic,
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  Speaker 4: and I've likened this version of the Jags to what
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  Speaker 4: the Rams had early on and Sean mcvay's tenue when
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  Speaker 4: they had Brandon Cook's and Robert Woods and Cooper Cup.
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  Speaker 4: They were fast, dynamic, and they created a lot of
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  Speaker 4: problems with their speed.
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  Speaker 2: On this roster in front of me, he's listed at
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  Speaker 2: six to one one eighty.
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  Speaker 6: Five pounds generous.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's won eighty five generous.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe we've got all his pads on and cleats and
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  Speaker 4: all that, like pouring down range, like just a little
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  Speaker 4: little wet in his pocket helmet on.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe like we wein't everything, like he's a little slender.
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  Speaker 3: How concerning is that for you?
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  Speaker 4: Not at all, because he's always been fine. He hasn't
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  Speaker 4: really had any major injuries, like last year when he
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  Speaker 4: got beat up a little bit like ribs and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: but nothing that was a size concern he The big
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  Speaker 4: thing for him would be for most receivers, how does
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  Speaker 4: he handle press coverage? How does he handle when they
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  Speaker 4: walk up and try and take his space away and
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  Speaker 4: they try and put their hands on him and throw
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  Speaker 4: them around.
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  Speaker 6: Does he have the.
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  Speaker 4: Quickness, the elusiveness, the escapability to defeat press coverage, because
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  Speaker 4: if he can do that, it's going to create a
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  Speaker 4: lot of problems. But it's the same thing Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 4: Junior had to learn how to deal with that, but
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  Speaker 4: once he learned it was problematic for opponents that walked
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  Speaker 4: up on him. I would think early in the year
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  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Juniors can get a lot of double coverage
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  Speaker 4: and how Travis Hunter and the Janmy Brown handle their
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  Speaker 4: one on one matchups that will determine whether they lift
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  Speaker 4: the blanket and the cloud on those guys because if
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  Speaker 4: they can make enough plays and now creates like a
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  Speaker 4: lot of opportunities for Trevor Lawrence to be able to
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  Speaker 4: go wherever he wants to based on who opens up first.
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  Speaker 7: One final thing on Travis what's interesting is I do
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  Speaker 7: get a lot of questions done well, if he's only
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  Speaker 7: going to play X on defense, how much impact does
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  Speaker 7: he make?
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  Speaker 5: Why not the other plays?
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  Speaker 7: And to me, Bucky, it's if he gets three picks
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  Speaker 7: and influences and other couple interceptions somewhere else, even a
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  Speaker 7: non huge statistical impact if he makes a couple of plays,
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  Speaker 7: if he gets you the ball back in two games
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  Speaker 7: where it's key, that's huge impact. And it's gonna be
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  Speaker 7: harder to measure on defense, I think, but he can
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  Speaker 7: make impact if he just makes two or three plays
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  Speaker 7: on defense over the course of a year.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, look, we've all sat here and watched the
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  Speaker 6: team play. Last year. There were one to nine and
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  Speaker 6: one score games.
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  Speaker 4: How many of those games do we see the team
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  Speaker 4: have a lead and surrender a lead in obvious passing
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  Speaker 4: situation where we should be in a loose form of
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  Speaker 4: a pre event, just keep the ball in front. We
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  Speaker 4: saw the indie officis Coacht go up and down the
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  Speaker 4: field a few different times in those moments when we're
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  Speaker 4: up and it's obvious passing situation. Now putting a guy
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  Speaker 4: who is a known interceptor, known playmaker that helps. There's
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  Speaker 4: value in what he can bring in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 4: in those gotta have it moments.
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  Speaker 7: Good a cover guy like you're the draft guy. We've
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  Speaker 7: all seen the combine with on people's shoulders, and.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it's a number. I mean, like I'm in
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  Speaker 6: my best open shoulders.
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  Speaker 5: How good a cover guy is he? Immediately.
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  Speaker 7: Can he take a quality receiver out of the offense quickly?
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  Speaker 4: My estimation, I think he's a better zone defenditive demand.
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  Speaker 4: Even though they played a lot of Manda Man at Colorado.
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  Speaker 4: What he's best at is being able to really like
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  Speaker 4: visit and break eyes on the ball, making plays in
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  Speaker 4: those things. That's why I think this game really kind
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  Speaker 4: of suits his skill set because he is so aware
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  Speaker 4: and instinctive. He has great diagnostic skills in terms of
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  Speaker 4: reading routes and things that are breaking in front of him.
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  Speaker 6: He's a really good player.
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  Speaker 4: Is he a lockdown corner in the mold of a
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  Speaker 4: Sauce Gardener or even a Patrick Satan?
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say diaker.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: He is a playmaker. He's gonna take the ball away.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Look, I won't compare him to but you remember how
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Rasheme Matthew used to take the all the way like
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: he was an interceptor magnet. He is more in that regard,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: more so than Jalen Ramsey in terms of lockdown, shut
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: you down.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: You're not gonna have anything open on.
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: If you make a player two like that every month,
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, you're impacting a lot in
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: this Later.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: The Rookie of the Year candidate at some point too.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: The schedules here and yeah, you don't want to miss
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: the matchups this year, and you can become a season
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  Speaker 2: ticket member. You can catch three or more games with
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  Speaker 2: a bundle at the bank, or experience this season with
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: a prowl pass.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Bucky.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: That's a plan for every fan, every fan. Get your
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  Speaker 2: tickets now. Jaguars dot Com. Slash tickets are called nine
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  Speaker 2: oh four six three three two thousand. Tuddle up with
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  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, jap Shadwick, John Osier, Bucky is with US
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  Speaker 2: Studios to day.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Something about it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Just an invitation, just an invitation, just a simple impact.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Everybody wants to be wanted.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: You're always invited because your name's on the show, Bucky.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: You just want to be wanted. Does everybody want to
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: be in the title? That's what it is.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: We talked about, Okay, the weight of Travis Hunter. There
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: was a lot of conversation yesterday after practice about the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: weight of the defensive lineman last season. They might have
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: been playing a little bit heavy. Have they come down
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit? Trayvon Walker spoke with the media yesterday
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: said yeah, he's a little lighter but only about three
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: pounds at the moment. He's also put together back to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: back double digit sacks seasons, and what would that mean
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: to get it for a third time.
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: Everybody wants to get double digit sacks, But for me,
• 17:30
  Speaker 9: I just want to be a total complete football player.
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: I want to be able to stop the run because
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: we can't rush the pass with I stopped in the run.
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: And once we do that, then that allows us to
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: get out of the quarterbacks. But I mean, like I said,
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: I just want to come out hand and be the
• 17:43
  Speaker 9: best overall player that I could be every day.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Listen at six five, two hundred and seventy two pounds
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: John Trayvon Walker.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: I thought he was wearing pads there.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I know it's different, Yeah, he said he hasn't done
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: his body composition, yeah, as of lately, but he feels
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: like it's just it's set up a little differently that
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: he's only later.
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, as a whole, that topic came up because
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: when you look at specifically Devin Lloyd to me and
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: Josh Heinz Allen a little bit other, they're significantly leaner
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: and they were asked and encouraged to play heavier last
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: year and I think you'll see benefits of them not
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: playing as heavy this year.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Cohen said as much as like, yeah, that was pretty
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: much an off season focus, would you. You know, right,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: different guys had to lose a little bit to get
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: back to your playing with.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: And I think Devin Lloyd, you know, to me, looks
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: fifteen pounds lighter. I don't know exactly where that is,
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: and I don't know where he'll end up.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: I don't necessarily I can't say with the straight face
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: that the weight gain was all the reason that he
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: struggled last year, because he hasn't been what you hoped
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: he would be. But I think it's going to help.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: And I sure like seeing him run around looking like
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: he's looking the way he looked last year.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, team, it's lean, they look like they're in shape.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Obviously, new strength coach comes in, Eric Ciano has done
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: a really good job with those guys. But dropping the weight,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: like the NFL is a game that's about speed in
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: between the lines, and so there was this thought that
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: a we're gonna be bigger and puts the notorious thing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: We dropped the cheeseburgers in the team beating and all
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: this stuff for the guys to get big and that
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: like it. Obviously it slowed the team down. So now
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: guys who are trying to get back to a healthier weight,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: a fast playing weight that's going to allow them to
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: be able to run around and zip around the field
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: and make plays. I like it as it relates to
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Treyvon Walker. Trayvon Walker wanting to be a complete player.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Everyone whenever we talk about d line and we always
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: focus on the sacks, but there's so much more to
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the game than that. To me, he is always going
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: to be whatever you as a complimentary rusher, a power
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: rusher that is dominating against the run. The sacks that
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: he makes and creates won't necessarily be garbage sacks, but
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: that's kind of a byproduct of him playing hard and
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: dominating the line of scripen. That's if you Josh Hines
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Allen as a guy who is more of the designated
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: pass rushing to the guy that you count on, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: combine two really good players. But I think the big
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: thing to come out of the conversation you talked about
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: stopping to run. Can we stop to run on early
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: downs so we can really get after the pass on
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: those later downs not only create sacks, but the turnovers.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: That's been a huge emphasis for the team this offseason.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: I think the thing that Liam said about this that
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: really struck me was they want them play in where
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: they feel confident, and it felt like last year with
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: their that in retrospect. Guys don't say this in the
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: moment because they want to well and they want to
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: believe that what they're doing is right. But I think
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: getting Devin Lloyd and Josh Heines, Allen and Trayvon, all
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: these guys the Bucky you played. How much better are
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: you when you feel like a superhero rather than feel
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: like something.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: You're not really where you want to be?
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that is it like when
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: you feel better when you fit and you feel like
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: you're in tip top shape. Championship shape is what some
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: would call it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: It gives you a.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Chance to play well because you're strong, you're fast, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: you also are built for the entire season.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Remember it's a long season. Seventeen games over eighteen weeks.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: You got it. You want to be playing your best
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: down the stretch.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: A lot of what you do during the offseason sets
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the table for how you're gonna be able to end
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: of the season.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five season at Daily's Place, rolling along
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Kodak black in for t Paine.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You're sticking around for that fucking or No?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I mean I would, I'm inviting you mean you got
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: to me for not inviting you to the show.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Free parking. We have free parking to day absolutely with
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: a ticket.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, tickets sixth and Kevin Crowning with Don Felder June second,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Old Dominion June sixth and Yeah. Dailysplace dot com for
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: tickets and show information.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: A busy springing.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I guess you'd get to it later in the summer.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Shan Twain down there to twenty ninth and thirty like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: that's the one I would be excited about.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Back to back. She does a different show each night.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: Why would she need to like why why would she
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: need to change it up?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe not?
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Maybe not work for her.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I would stick stick, stick to the script.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: The script been doing a lot more than we have.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I would.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: That's what that's my advice to I won't even charge
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: you for that, just to keep it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: The script and.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: That's all.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: She varies. Could be down the front road.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Come on, we'll get back to it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Like don't deviate, play the play the feature bucket down
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: there front row man.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I feel yeah, let's go girls.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, we got what we say, five more OTA practices
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: after today and the three Manatoyd Mini can't practices. So
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: we're coming in hot to the end of the off
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: season program in.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: The off season programmed.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Then they have a month off and then before you
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: know it, July mid July, it's on. It's on and
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: pop and I'm excited about it. Got everything lined up.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: We got these practices, left, got the developmental peers, see
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: some of the young guys have more opportunities that mini
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: camp will be the final thing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: And then everyone disappears for like a moth.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: Aside from Travis Hunter or anything, hang on your mind anything,
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: jump out?
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: What's on your sheet?
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: Over?
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: And we got like Mark don't like the scout never
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: leaves a lot of notes, a lot of things.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Like what's thank you your daughter?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: We got all the stuff, like we got everything, got
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: some highlights and players to watch good football players. Had
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: a conversation with James Glasstone a team process, talked about that,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: talked about the players, the culture and the character those things,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: trying to make sure you got the right the right people.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: It could be a lesser player, but they got great character.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Gives you a chance to win. And then watching Liam
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: go through situations day Today was a situational day, so
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of thinking caps on, like what's the situation,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: how are we going to you, how we're gonna play.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: It, and what I like.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: We walked through the situation, went away, and came back
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: and ran through the situation. So it's just like like
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: raising up a child, like you know, a first, a
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: crawl a little bit, then they walked and they run.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to seeing the Jaguars run a
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: little bit as we get to the end of the
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: pre season in the regular season.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Then they turned sixteen and drive a car.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to show them all over again.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: And you gotta pay for insurance.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, that is very problematic. And imagine having too,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: imagine having too that you gotta pay for double the insurance. Yeah,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: that's why I need more invice to come back.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: We'll call the show.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Bucky.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Great to see you, yeah, man, it's nice.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Ns next week you're going back to what we're doing here.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: You're always welcome.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: What are you doing well, I'm staying through the end
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: of the week to see some more practices, see if
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I can learn some more about the team.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: Talk about it, right about it?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I love watching ball.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, like when when you're a football junkie, this
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: is what you do.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: You live for these opportunities to go watch ball, smell
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: the grass all that.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Like, you know, it's time to smell the grass.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Grass being cut. It's all right there. John's not as excited.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: It's not excited about much of anything.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: This is a cool time of year. On years like this,
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: when it's a new regime and there's a lot of youth.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: This is cool in in year three of a regime.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: Frankly, O tas, aren't that inches, But right now this
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: is a really cool time.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Vibes.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Everything vibes good, good vibes, good vibes. But overflowing the
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: vibes right means nothing until we kick it off, all right.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: We know some off season.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: But I think the good thing about this bunch is
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: it does feel real.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: Mhm, it does. We're gonna get him going, though, we
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: get him going, all then.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: I'm ready.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Four to six a T to B forty six, Come on.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Stanion Nighted. That's Bucky Brooks, John Oser.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I'm J P.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Shadrick.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Thanks to Brett Reaver and Joe Fortunado and our entire crew,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: thanks for watching and listening to huddle up with Bucky Brooks.