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NBA Playoffs Banter: 2nd Round Series Preview, Debate, & Predictions! Game 7's & NY/Det Recap! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: NBA basketball fans, Welcome back to the NBA Playoff Banter Podcast.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here to talk NBA
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: playoff hoops. Obviously, we got spoiled in the first round.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: We had what three game six is? Two of them
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: led to you know, Game seven. So we'll start with
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: some recap with Denver beating the Clippers, hardened book in
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: his flight early Game seven with the Warriors, obviously Buddy
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Heal went nutty, and then, you know, the best series
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: so far could be the best series of the whole playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: New York in Detroit. Let's hope it's not the best,
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  Speaker 1: but it might be. So we'll talk about a little
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: bit of the closeout stuff. And then of course, Okcee
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Denver Cleveland, Indie is already has game one in the books.
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  Speaker 1: Indie upset Cleveland on the road Boston, New York. And
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: then of course Mini in Golden State. We got a
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: little rivalry going on here because my co host is
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, he was talking about he was talking
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: shit like Golden State's gonna win in four games, you
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. No, I'm just kidding. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna definitely break it all down here as we
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  Speaker 1: get to it. While you're If it's your first time
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  Speaker 1: per month. All right, let's go ahead and bring in
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  Speaker 1: my co host Marshall what's going on, Marshall? How the
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: hell are you? Man? We had ourselves a hell of
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: a first round.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: My friend, I'm doing really good, sir, I am. I
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: can't complain.
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  Speaker 3: Life is good. The weather or not here ain't bad.
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: I just got to start golfing now. Yes, it was
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  Speaker 3: a very good route.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that we had a little bit of drama,
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: a little bit of craziness, a couple of game sevens.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe My one question moving forward is are we gonna
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  Speaker 3: see the insane physicality of round one in rounds two, three,
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  Speaker 3: and four? Like or is that something where the players
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: get worried down a little bit more?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Will the rest change?
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  Speaker 3: Because that kind of was the one overall arching theme
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  Speaker 3: of playoffs Round one of damn, Like, this series got
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: really physical and they're letting the guys play, which you
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: saw in like the Houston Golden State series for sure.
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: So will the physical play continue or is that just
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  Speaker 3: how the refs called it.
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  Speaker 2: Was at the DNA of the teams? Obviously I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the the well.
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  Speaker 3: I would say the Wolves Golden State might be just
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: as physical because there's a little bit of bad blood.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll just see how the refs go. But
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  Speaker 3: from that point, yeah, it was fun. And now we
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  Speaker 3: have to break down round two and we have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of good matchups, Like I know they it's a
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  Speaker 3: six to seven matchup for Wolves in Golden State, but
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  Speaker 3: it should be fun enough deadver old case for the
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  Speaker 3: other part of the West is fun. So we're we're
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  Speaker 3: sitt good brother. I like how Roundwood turned out overall.
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  Speaker 3: Now we got a fun, enjoyable round two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know I noticed early on in that
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  Speaker 1: Nicks Detroit series or not not in the series, but
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  Speaker 1: in that last game they were calling it much tighter,
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  Speaker 1: like they were like, hang on, this might be getting
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  Speaker 1: a little out of control. Yes, let's from the start.
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  Speaker 1: And was it Steve Smith or somebody on the broscast
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  Speaker 1: scene was kept saying that, hey, do you guys have
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  Speaker 1: to make it adjustments because they're calling the ship tonight.
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  Speaker 2: You know, So.
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  Speaker 3: As a player, as a players like, what the what
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  Speaker 3: the hell made?
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  Speaker 2: Like we've been we've been grinded and brawling all series.
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: Now you're gonna bowl the whistle tight Like that's not
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  Speaker 3: fear of the players either, not that you want to
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: have a fight breakout, but if you've been letting them
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: play rough all all series.
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  Speaker 2: You should have just.
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  Speaker 3: Called audible now because that's a different spot for the
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  Speaker 3: game and the players themselves.
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, deeper in the series, the games mean that much more.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, it's kind of like, but you do have
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  Speaker 1: to make that adjustment. Unfortunately. Yeah, sure, and I am
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: wondering about that what you said about Golden State Minnesota
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: that the casuals will soon find out. I mean, everybody
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: knows Rudy and Draymond hate each other, but there's layers
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: and layers to this thing Butler, and Butler hasn't played
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: in the Target Center, and someone put it on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: is like twelve hundred days because he kept missing. I'm
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: not saying I'm not gonna be Draymond. Okay, I'm not
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: gonna say he was ducking the matchup, but he kept
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: missing the matchup, whether he was hurt or resting. You know,
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler the regular season, but literally, it's been a
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: long time since Jimmy even played in Target Center. So
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: that's what I always threw me off. When Draymond was
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: talking shit about Kat ducking Butler, It's like, are you sure,
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: because if you're gonna use that theme, then it'd be
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: Butler Duck in the Timberwolves. But he wasn't. He wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't afraid. Nobody's afraid to play each other. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they're not even fighting really, it's not even like boxing
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  Speaker 1: or or something like that. But I do think now,
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  Speaker 1: depending on the efficient A crew obviously, but I kind
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  Speaker 1: of think Marshall that they're gonna lay down the law
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  Speaker 1: pretty early in that series and be like, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: take a couple of deep breaths. You know, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: doubt if it's ticky tat to start. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: it to be, but I wouldn't doubt if that's the case.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now, the one thing I'll say is that you know,
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: like a lot of times a couple of buddies can't
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: stay and watching, like say gild Yourselexander, because these one
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: of those guys that like Harden used to when it
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: was Calvary's like, oh you just dross fouls all the time. Well,
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: I will say there's something to be said for the
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: way Round one was played overall by the Refts. Dude,
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  Speaker 3: you're not getting the I'm gonna draw a foul master card.
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  Speaker 2: You can't play that card.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, dude, you hey, if you're gonna drive
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: in the lane, you get bumped, you best get your
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: grass up because they're going the other way.
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  Speaker 2: So it does kind of make it a little more finale.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: People say, like older school basketball. But I do enjoy
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: because I know you love Aunt.
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  Speaker 3: But he's bad, like Jokic is bad. Lucas maybe the
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  Speaker 3: worst lebron you know, but a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of fakes, a bunch of fouls. Are you saying he
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: screams because he's not good at faking falls better?
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  Speaker 2: I think he.
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  Speaker 3: I think he draws off a little, but he's also
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  Speaker 3: the lead superstar like like, but I don't think he's
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  Speaker 3: a bad as Luca. But ants those guys where if
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  Speaker 3: he drives, the lady misses a shot, you see him
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  Speaker 3: say something that's a lot, but I see I've seen
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  Speaker 3: him do it.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't flop though, no, he doesn't know he doesn't fly.
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  Speaker 1: That's a whole different story. Flopping is a whole different story.
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  Speaker 1: That's who That's what Shade does. Shade flops all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I okay, so I was compared. I was just
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  Speaker 3: listing guys who know Ad doesn't flop.
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  Speaker 1: I I wish he'd drawn more attack, to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, because a lot of times at the end
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  Speaker 1: of a play he'll he'll go away from someone, shelter
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  Speaker 1: their body and make a tough shot instead of going
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  Speaker 1: right into them. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah,
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: get off. See Luke and Shae the way they play
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: compared to at what I'm just saying that a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times superstars want calls, and I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 3: less calls given this year. What's kind of which is
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: kind of fun, Like, dude, just go out and get
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: out and play basketball. Now, Yeah, I feel they kind
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  Speaker 3: of missed this memo for the past twelve years, but
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  Speaker 3: it is what is?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're and you're talking about complaining to the
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: ref too, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just voice of your opinion. But some do it much worse.
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  Speaker 2: So there's much worse.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but it's you got to pick a time. You know,
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: there's so many whistles. There's so much dead time in
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  Speaker 1: a game, waiting until the plays over, waiting till there's
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: dead ball, then go lay it on the you know,
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: they can go over there and talk shit. But don't
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: be looking at the ref and then you got to
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: you're not even running back on defense. That kills me.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear that. I saw
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: this video of a kid trying to draw a fall
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  Speaker 1: by snatching his neck back like this over and over again,
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  Speaker 1: like four times, and he finally got in the I'm
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: talking about like a maybe twelve years old or something
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  Speaker 1: like that, and it was like, oh boy, here we go.
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: See that's what happens. It's just like when everybody wants
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: to shoot a three, or everybody wants to go solo
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: and put your tongue out like Jordan or whatever. Yeah,
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: kids pick up on this shit. You know, you don't
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: want to kip flopping when they're twelve years old, you
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? But uh, you know that's how
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: it goes if you call it that way. So either way,
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be regular season tiki tak,
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: but I have a feeling that they're gonna be a
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: tad more stern than they have been or they are
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: in the in the playoffs. So let's talk Game seven
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: since it's the furthest one for Clippers. You know, right away,
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: it looked like the Clippers were gonna they were right
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: in it right away. It looked very good for them.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: Then Denver kind of opened it up. Then the Clippers
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: made a little run. But then they once they opened
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: it up, it was it was wide open. I mean
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: they they they really fell apart. And once again like
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: Harden just you know, two for eight. He did have
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: thirteen assists and only two turnovers. But and that's awesome,
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: but twelve points, it's just rough. And you know it's
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: coming off like a twenty eight point game where in
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: that win where he was really good, you know, so
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: but to go out, let's see is that there? Right?
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: So fifteen and they have a spread offense. So I'm
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: not saying he's got to put up thirty six all
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: the time. But fifteen eleven, nice game seven, they just
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: they shut him down, took him out. Murray is playing
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: right now. Murray is playing at a very high level.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Same with Aaron Gordon offensively, but Murray, I think he's
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: averaging like twenty three points a game or something like
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: that right now. He's looking damn good. We know Porter's
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: back is a little funky, and he's a little funky,
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: as we know, healthy or not healthy, you know, but
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: his back what since Missouri is back has been an issue. Yes,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: so that's nothing new. But he or no, it was
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: his shoulder. It's his shoulder, My bad.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: He had back issues too.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, right now, I think it's a sholder.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: It's his shoulder. But Gordon uh showed up in that game.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: What what'd you think of the closeout game? Once again,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: you look at the Clippers and you're like, dude, they
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: got a squad, and I think in previous years I
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: believed in them to win and I picked him to win,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: and then I finally cut it off. And in this year,
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: you went to the dark side just for this series,
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's seven games. Though they could
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: have they could have should have won a you know,
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: they really should have won this damn series.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: I you know, literally just hit me in my head.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: Were like, I I think that they've lived Philly are
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: just in the past for the past decade. Both those
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: fan bases have thought that, hey, we can go to
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: the finals, and neither really gotten close.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: Like they trusted the process a little too long, I guess.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: And yeah, there's moments where this that the d regular
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: season Kwi looked.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: Really good hard and looked really good.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: But again at just like say with Philly, say with Clippers, like,
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: are you ever gonna actually get to the finals?
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, at least they got to the conference finals
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: a few years back. Philly didn't remember they under m
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: be they've never even been there.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that was just the analogy came to
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: my mind of like just two fan bases that have
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of talented players that are willing to spend
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: money that they got the.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Payof at times too, but.
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  Speaker 2: They no you and.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: You while the owners are about to have a heart attack
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  Speaker 1: on the damn. I always feel for the guys that
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: did calm down a little bit. Man, Yeah you get young,
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: like you're stressing me out.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, and hands give democredit.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: I was when we did our first show the year
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: while of the playoff season for US, I was like, dude,
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: you fired your coach, Like I don't know, just maybe
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: because I'm a coach, I'm like the back man.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, that that's dicey.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: Like I know, obviously, players got to play, and as
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: I've been telling my friends this, yere because we got
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: knocked out by a really good softball team, Like you
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: need Jimmy's and Joe's before x's. No, So obviously if
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: you got Jimmies and Joe's sometimes ex those don't matter
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: as much in theory. But still a coach the coach
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: and they're gonna call tim outs have sub patterns, Like
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: I guess they said Jokic was like kind of calling
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: some substitutions and stuff, so I guess he's kind of
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: tried to throw us.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: He's like pointing at the side like, yeah, bring his
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: ass in.
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  Speaker 3: But but hey, to their credit, obviously, I'm sure Mike
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Bolana he's he did help drab there, but it wasn't
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: meant to be anymore. So, hey, you got passed round
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: one and what was a very good competitive game, sorry
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: competitive series. Yeah, but one thing I really the Clippers
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: fans probably thought they had. Yeah again, I do think
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: that one, two three travel was mayg gonna come back
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: and bite him in the butt because maybe who knows
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: who is that game in ot But just another time
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: where Harden was a no show in a big game,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: and his track record is pretty long for that scenario.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: So dude, the stats that start to come out about
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: that guy as far as like games under like in
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: single digits, you know, in the playoffs. Yeah, it's it's like,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: how like I was that happened. It's like, do you
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: think it's like at halftime he's booking his flight or
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: like do you think he waits to like the late
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: third quarter or something, because it feels.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: You get to get the crab legs at the strip club.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Life's good put house that.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Man. I don't like that deal. Try it. We're gonna
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: go someplace else. We're gonna get a better deal. But
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: you know, and I said, you know I did preference. Yeah,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I picked the Nuggets just because their core has been
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: together long well, either cores really hasn't been together longer.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: It's just more dependable, Yeah, because a lot of those
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: guys have played together now for a long time in
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the playoffs too, you know, maybe not hard and there,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: but a lot of the clip you know, there's a
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: good core there for the Clippers and but it's just
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it it's so wild that you
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: just fall off a cliff like that, Like, how do
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: you fall off a cliff that much? It's just it
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: just it makes it kind of render his career like
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: empty points, empty, you know, empty wins and stuff like that. Yeah,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's hard. It's hard to fight that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: There's times where you look at his numbers and you go, dude,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: he gets his teammates involved, but it has to be
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: on his terms. That how he gets this, you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: guys involved and if you at the rim runner or
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: someone opening the three, but it's all about him, you know.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's just weird man, but uh,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you know, dever, you know, they're obviously motivated. So they
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: got the double. Yes, how they move on and I
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be this easy out in the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: next round. We'll get to that in a little bit.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Moving on to the other game seven last night, I mean,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: obviously a grinded out game. Even the winner only had
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred and three points beyond one player. The rest
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: was really spread in the lineup. Green at sixteen points.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: He actually shot the ball fifteen times in a game. Marshall,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that's a pretty big number. He's plus eighteen as well,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the highest number there too. But Butler had twenty, Curry
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: had twenty two. Buddy went off as we know, nine threes.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I think he beat Dante's record, if I remember correctly,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: didn't get shit really off the bet. They got three
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: points off the bench. That's crazy. I knew it was thin,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: but that was crazy. You know. They they had control
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of it and pretty much the whole time, Houston kept
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: making it interesting and down the stretch they would make
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: these runs. I think they got within three, but they
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: just couldn't go over the hump. And offensively, they got
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of young talent. They got some veterans of
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: course to like van Fleet. But we talked about this
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: last Monday. Dude like Green, like Jalen Green, like where
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: are you at? Like last four game or five games, nine, eight, eleven,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: twelve and eight in his highest assist total was five
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: assists otherwise was one two three one. It's not like
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: he's being crazy covered and he's getting his guys involved
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like they come and go with like
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: van Fleet, like he has to have a crazy game
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: for them to win, because there are some guys that
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: will just deliver what they deliver. Sangoon didn't play as
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: well shooting the ball, but he had still had a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: solid salt you know, series, But they got it done. Man.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: They were up three to one. It was it was
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: look a little dicey there for a second, but they
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ended up wrapping it up. I did think they'd wrap
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it up in game six. I was a little surprised,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you know, when they sat step down, you could just
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: see it on his whole demeanor. He was pretty pissed
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: that they didn't, you know, close it out at home.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: But uh, what are your thoughts overall? Seven game series?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Fun series, but it feels like Houston's gonna have to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: make a move to take that next level or take
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that next step.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Obviously it's not breaking news here, but they are very
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: very good defensively, just because they have so many big
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: bodies who are super athletic, which is a huge plus.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Obviously Seguon and Adams like when those guys were on
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the court together, they actually had like a plus sixty
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: in the series going into game seven.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So it was working.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: But you just gotta be able to score, and that's
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: the part they're kind of missed. I thought that Van
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Fleet had a pretty nice series overall, but they just
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: need that two or three guard to kind of get
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: you buckets, and they didn't have that. Sin Goodon played
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: presault in the whole series, and Van Fleet had pretty
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: good moments overall, but you just need another guy can
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: get you bucks. Maybe got trade one of your young
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: coming defenders to get you some offensive points, which may happen,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: but from a Golden State stand point, again, it's so
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: much different.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: As a fan.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I got spoiled, but I still like the team. It's
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: just a very different team. Hey, they got the job done,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: just like when they when they when they got their
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: butt kicked in game six, it was like, man, like
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: that's games that you don't really close out at home,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Like that one was just yeah, what you know, like
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: kind of like playing with their food analogy, like we're
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: up three to one and out, we had to go
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: to seven, like and.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: They had that Game five vibe of hey we got
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: game six, come up, We're good, you know.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But then but then you kind of pull your
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: starters super early. I just I don't I don't know.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: That was getting interesting too, because it's like, hey, dude,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it's down to eleven, now are you gonna put these
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: mother efforts back in.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I was thinking the exact same thing because I was like, dude,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: like there's four minutes to go. This is the NBA
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: modern day, like if you put three, you know, if
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: you put kurry in right now, like things could because
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: what they were down thirty then he got some fourteen
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: to twelve and I'm like four to five minutes, like.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: All right, you got put it back in, like like
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: let's make.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: This embrace off already, you know.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't. I just I don't know that one.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: That would surprised me, brother, because I really did think
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be that Okay, bring the boys back in,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and hey if you don't, if the run stops, some
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: back out, But like, why did you ever not want
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: to close off the game when you could? My thoughts
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: were exact same, like you know sometimes and Kurryan said,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Curry there in the post gin pressure like dude, he said,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: we're throwing the towel.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: It is what it is. But I'm like, I just.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Don't like that approach with the amount of time they
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: had left, the score they had left, like you could
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: have won that game.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, But I don't know if it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: just Kurr being stubborn or just thinking long term, you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: with the rest or whatever. But he had already rested
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a long time in the fourth anyway. So yeah, they
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: weren't gonna unless it went to overtime. They weren't gonna
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: play big minutes anyway. No, no, So they were both
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in the like the key players were all in the twenties,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I believe. So, you know, I don't know Curtz like
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: this year there has been a little funky with his
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: decisions at time. Maybe he's just stubborn. Maybe you know, hey,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: maybe that worked out and they're gonna win the series.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Who knows, But yeah, either way, Buddy went off. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: liked how spread it was in that starting lineup. So
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: they got the job done. The best series obviously, And
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that's the thing we talk about this every time. Marshalled
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that sometimes Game seven is really not all that fucking
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: great because the series wasn't good. But yeah, whereas pretty
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: much every game like Game one, Yeah, the score in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, by the time it got to the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: clutch time was out of hand because remember they made
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that twenty whatever run, but they were down by a lot.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: You know, the Knicks were so pretty much. You know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they always say, which is true, that basketball's game of runs. Well,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: this freaking series is game runs. Because it was like oh,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Detroit's up by twelve. All the Knicks come back. All
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the Knicks get up by eleven. Oh, Detroit's right back
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: in it. And if you look at the beginning of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, the Knicks up by nine, and actually
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: they got it up to after Pain made a bucket.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: They got up to eleven, I think, and it was
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: one hundred to eighty nine pretty early on. Still still
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: a ten point game. Uh, closing in on I'm looking
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: at it right now, closing in. And next thing, you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: by six twenty six, Hardaway hits a three. It's one
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: o three to one oh one, and then it's tied,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and then they take the lead with a cam jumper.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It's one oh five to one oh three. So this
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: thing is just being back and forth, back and forth,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, the like Brunson hitting that shot, Towns
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: hit a couple of even though he's in foul problems,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: go figure, he did have some clutch free throws and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: once again, strangely enough, center's not his best position defensively,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: but he keeps making fourth quarter defensive plays. But you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: they just they hit that bucket with what five seconds
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: left something like that four point one close it out
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and then you know, Beasley, the self proclaimed best shooter
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in the world, said that at the press conference, you
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: need to catch the ball first before you get shoot it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You gotta catch it, shoot, catch, shoot, not catch bobbo
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: out of bounce. Game over. But a hell of a series, man,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: fun series, and it will be interesting to see because
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Detroit has a lot of you know, like free agent
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: guys that are veterans that you're gonna want to bring
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: some back. But when when role players Marshall do good,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: like very good, like almost overachieved, sometimes someone just throws
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: some money at them and they're gone. Yeah, just ask
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: fucking Denver, you know, like KCP Bruce like they they
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: lost some dudes, and so that will be interesting to see.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: But overall, I just like the I like what they
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: got going in Detroit. I do think they should trust
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: some of that process. But once you think overall, just
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a fun ass series. Man. It seemed like everyone came
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: down with the wire. A lot of controversy too.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And obviously I do think that that serious
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: probably should have been two to two because they did
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: get hoes on that call.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: But you know, that's sports, it happens. Uh.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you're a Detroit fan, it's got
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: to be fun to have basketball again back in that city. Obviously,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things where like when
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: they win, it's good for the sport. Like obviously I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: still remember those like Chauncey Bill, Britt Hamilton years, so
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: it's there. When they're good, it's good for the NBA.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And obviously got Kate Cunningham now, who's a special kid.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And how do you build around him?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: But that's one those things where if they stayed good
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: for a couple more years, you might get some older
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: vets and want to go to play there, because a
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago everyone was probably staying the f way, So.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Good point unless they overpaid for people or something, you know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So overall, I thought it was a fun series.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I really did think that when it was gonna be
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: a game seven, because when you're up five with like
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: under two minutes to go, you gotta win that game.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Like Bruns and said, f y'all, like I'm gonna take
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: care of this, but like, just I don't know that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I really thought it was going seven, and that was
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: my pick too, So I came up a little shorrom
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that things.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I embed it. But that was just a fun competitive series.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Uh not really one bad game in the whole series. No, yeah,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: better than a game seven sometimes because we got six
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: great games.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when every game comes down to like three points,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: it's like it's hard to nitpick. Like that was just
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: a overall fun series obviously. You know, the Knicks were
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: hey brunts and special man that that dude Spina earning paychecks.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: He he did some special stuff in Downs earned him
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: in paycheck.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: He's doing in New York now too. You know, so
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: He's he's one of the top floppers too. We were
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: talking about flopping.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hey, when you're that little I get it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just knows how to draw contact.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Dude, he had a clutch series. Uh, Towns, it seemed
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: to he he disappeared a little bit. I think sometimes
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: it's New York media there over the top of it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: But Towns made to not have his best series overall.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: But and you know, but same with Josh Hart. But overall,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: like hey, Brunson helped them win. And if you're the Knicks,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I think that's what they.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Kind of needed.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: You know, you're kind of in the spotlight a little
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: more often, are going to be the press more often,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Gus or that East Coast team, and obviously a huge market.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: So I think that's one that they It probably would
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: have been a pretty rough offseason for the Knicks that
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: they lost that because I think going to the series, Chris,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: no one expected Detroit to raise all the hell they did,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: but once that serious.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Because we talked about it, but maybe just overall overall, right,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it's like you know what, like what what the Piston
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: stud lately?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, you know, but hey, that was fun.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I hope we do have a series similar to their
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: that series in the second round. But yeah, if you're Detroit,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: hey you have a foundation now build out fitting for
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the Knicks. Now you got your hands told I can't
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: have those off nights. Now you do got to take
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: care of business versus Boston because you're not, they're not
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: gonna give you the or excuse me, they should gave
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you tougher competition than Detroit did.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Which they gave you a lot of competition. I will
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: put like he had two games where fall problems was
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: an issue. But I I mean if you look at
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: defensively and offensively in Game three, in game four. He
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: had a lot to do with that victory. I mean,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: he hit those threes, he had those fades in the corner.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Each one got a little harder. Twenty three, thirty one,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: twenty seven. I don't know. I wouldn't say he underachieved,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I think he did in
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: his last game because he got in the fall problems
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and he's I saw he's already in fall problems early.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: That's been his big issue. But I don't think he
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: underachieved in that at all. I thought he played better
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: than I would have guessed defensively at center. But and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and we'll get into this series. We're not gonna spend
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of time on it. But they're standing around
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a lot though, Like, yeah, all these great offensive players,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: but they're standing around a lot and they're they're getting
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: their ship late in the shot clock. I don't know
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: they're I think they're still trying to figure figure you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that starting lineup offensively out because it's real streaky. Basically,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it'll just go off or it'll just they can't get
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a good shot. If they do, they're struggling. And I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: don't know, I just I love how that little dude
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: gets a shot up. Man, he's so crap with his
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: dribble and he makes you go, oh, you're gonna go
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: this way? Okay, I mean I'm gonna get my shot off, dude.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And he usually is a pretty good look, you know
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Like whether it's a three or if
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it's ten feet from the bucket, He's gonna get his shot, dude,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: one way or another. True. Yeah, he's he's fun to watch. Man.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He's the team. Man. If they if they were a
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: little deeper, I believe in them more. But and then
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I think they if they were deeper, Marshall, I think
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: they could move somebody out of the starting lineup and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: have something like a power pack off the bench, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: then just have a solid defender in the lineup too.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I will say, though, I thought they played good defense.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: But then again, coming into you know, that series, it's
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: not like Detroit is some sort of offensive juggernaut either,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So that could play too.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And then before we get into the predictions, this one,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: although it only went game five the Wolves Lakers, the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: last three games were all very tight. They were all
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: on the table to be won. And you know, obviously
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: only one side did it. You know, the the NBA
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Twitter and just the nowadays stuff is, oh, you know
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Luca and Lebron they're garbage now and it's not gonna work.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: And you know they just got done picking them, but
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: now they're garbage, right, and there are I mean, Lebron's
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: old dude, you know, so he's not gonna be able
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to do everything every game. It's just not gonna happen anymore. Right,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: But in Luca, we know he does need to because
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: when he's when he's this out of shape defensively, he
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: takes a big step back. You know, I just saw
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and I totally spaced this Marshall. But someone on Twitter
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: had like a fire five minute click clip of Luca
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: in his first two seasons, right, and this dude like
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the slim Luca, Right, this fucking guy was getting off
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the dribble with quickness. It wasn't about putting somebody on
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the hip. I forgot how quick he was. Like, this
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: dude was dunking to like he dunked a bunch of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: times on people, Like I forgot how quick he was.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I really did. And we saw shades of it last year, Yes,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Dallas had a good defensive court. But I remember going
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: into that playoffs and we both agreed, like, hey, he's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: moving around better, he's moving his feet, he's you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: he's actually not that bad on defense right now. Now, obviously,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: when you have the Celtics and you have that many playmakers,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: they took advantage of him, but he didn't get taken
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: advantage of all playoffs at all, really, and we were
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: too dumb to try to do it. But this year.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: My point is, though as far as oh Lebron and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: uh Luca ha ha, they suck. Now, it's your team too.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: It's what how your team is built that plays into
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it because people forget people just remember Jordan, after you
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: started winning championships, well before that, dude, he couldn't win
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a series and he couldn't be Boston, he couldn't beat Detroit.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: He'd go crazy for thirty eight points or forty five
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: points and they wouldn't win the series. Though, you know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: then he got a core of people around him, he
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: started trusting him, and then all of a sudden they
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: blew up. So I think you can you can point fingers,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: no doubt, but I just I don't like the more
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you look at this series, it was like, dude, they
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: just don't have that many good role players to fit
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: right now. And if you don't have a Rimp protector,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you're just it's just tough, dude, because
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Ant thrives against no Rimp protector.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I think if you ask out of what there's thirty
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: or thirty two NBA teams, thirty, I like, do you
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: want to have this current years Lebron and Luca, like
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: twenty nine out of thirty year guys say yes, Like, dude,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Lebron's probably gonna be second team All NBA this year
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and Luca is one of the top three scorers.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: In the whole world, Like yeah, and you know you're in.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: You're ripping them like.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: One of the top offensive players in the league, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: any given day he can be the best. You know.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: So, I.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Mean, obviously, is this playing the way they went out
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: if you're Laker fan, but like that, it wasn't Lebron's
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: faumped the way that guy played.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Defense, and that what was a game at home court?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Game four?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Dude, Lebron playing defense, he didn't look forty shit he
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: was he was stealing steal the ball from Ad toon
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: like McDaniels, like dude that's not a regular forty year
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: old and Luca, dude that do love shooting threes and
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: target center.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Target center. I think I think the.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: The court likes that dude's feet when I when he's
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: spots them threes out at all because you don't miss much.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: So but what but what hey when when JJ Redick,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: who was a very angry man, got called out, he
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: is going back to shades of visits. Yeah, he's that
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: shades of man from Duke who's a little bitter when
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: he has to face of adversity.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: So I enjoy to see that man struggle.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Uh. I was gonna ask you, are you is it
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: JJ Reddick the coach or is it's still a Duke player?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: But you just answered my question for me. But you're
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: being honest though, because he was already he was already
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: like paranoid before the game started.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get a little defense about the subbing patterns.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: But hey, when you when you're when you're back up
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: like pull pull the card out of the hat trick?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Is Maxi Kleeber.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who hadn't played in a lot of good Yeah, yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: but you know, and it and a lot of that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't his fault anyway, because they're just not a deep
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: team either. They don't have a center, you know.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: You know, there there was reason why he did use
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the single that he didn't make a second half sub
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: in Game four like that, which almost ever hap an
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: NBA history just because it have met. So, yeah, Lebron
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: and Luca are still very talented. Lebron again, you're probably
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: gonna be second team on NBA and you're forty years old, Like,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: holy shit, dude, that's tremendous.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And Lucas.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I still think this can work because what can do offensively,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: oh yeah wow, And we saw it even in the
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: season and sometimes there's a series. It can allow Lebron
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to focus on other stuff. Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I finally has a guy to.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Be like, hey, dude, you have the ball. I'm good, Yeah,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: let me do other stuff. So I think if they
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: if they get a goddamn center, you know, yeah, if
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: they get a little depth, dude, I don't think that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: they're just blow it up. You know. Everybody wants to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: restart the video game blow it up, you know. Yeah,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But I will say this, dude, if Luca can't get
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: in shape, this offseason with Lebron James, who's forty, showing
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: you how to do it. Like, I don't know if
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: he'll ever get in shaped.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I got to send you this clip of him when
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: he's young. I know we all watch his games, but
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it's been a long time. Obviously, he's been in the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: league for a while now. And dude, it wasn't about
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: anybody on his hip at all. It wasn't a slow dribble.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It wasn't the Jokic five. It was I'm getting by you, dude,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm duncan you know? And I totally forgot about
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that Luca dude. So I still have hope. I believe
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: he will change that around. Maybe I'm stupid, but we'll know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: We'll know, because like I said, he's in a great situation.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: He's got a mentor that's gonna be like, hey, dog,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: get in your ass in shape, dude.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the country, you know, like, So hopefully hopefully
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: that's the case, man, because I just don't want to
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: see him break down in his thirties.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You know, Iverson was a very similar guy. Wasn't a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: crazy workout guy, you know, true, And you know when
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you do that do your body breaks down to when
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you get older and thirties old older, you know? So yes,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I really just don't want to see that because he's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: such a damn good player and he can move his feet.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: He's quicker than it appears right now. He's not quick
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: right now, and he got exploited a bunch between h
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Randall and h An they exploited the ship out of him.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: So he's gotta he's gotta, he's gotta work on that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: But we'll see. So just because we're already a game
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: one right, already had it in the in the in
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the bucket, and he steals it from the calves. The
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: calves you know they're for them. And okay, see their
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: first round was dominated about his dominant is gonna get
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: now the competition wasn't there or whatever, but still they
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: did their job, right. How big is it? And we know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you know, game three, game five, we always talk about
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the percentages and all that and if you win those games,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you're in good shape. But winning game one is such
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a big deal, especially with the team with confidence and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: now they're fully healthy. What'd you see here, because it
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: seemed like Mitchell thirteen to thirty and he had a couple.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: You know that that's too many shots for only thirteen makes.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Even if you're fifteen to thirty, that's cool, that's fifty percent,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: but it's just not it's not ideal. What did you
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: think of that game? And it seemed like once the
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Pacers like got the lead, they're just like, I think
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: we're gonna hold it. I'm pretty sure we're gonna hold it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Mitchell was one of eleven from three and he only
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: got to the lone. Now, he did get to the
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: line nine times, but he was six and nine, which
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: isn't actually that good. What'd you see? What'd you think?
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And then we're gonna start to you know, obviously preview
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and predict this puppy.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I I think that both the teams play really similar
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: styles of basketball, and so I don't think that like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: obviously Cleveland was just too much Miami because Miami couldn't
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: have an offense. But Cleveland wants to run a gun
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: because they played at the fastest pace in the league.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: But you're playing a team who plays at the second
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: fastest pace in the league. So maybe the advantage that
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Cleveland had most of this season of running gun is
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: now like Okay, dude, Well you might.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Be number one, we're number two.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: So if you want to run a gun, dude, like
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: we're gonna run, all right, Hey, well basyone's gonna run.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably ran. They probably ran to Cleveland, dude.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Like by the beer, we're coming over. You know, it's like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: all right, let's go. We're good.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: So from that standpoint, because last night, shit, Indiana hit
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: nineteen threes and they missed one free throw, like, you know,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I just I think it's, uh, there's not a contrast
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: to styles because they play the same style.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that, Yes, Cleveland.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Had a great regular season this year, but even for
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: the last year playoff experience last year, and he had
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: a better and he had had a better.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Playoff for last year.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: And uh, obviously I do think that if they need
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Garland back. It sounds like there's rumors that Garland might
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: come back for the next game, but I know he's
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: been on banged up with a bust and tow, which
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I'm sure hurts, Like hell.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: That's not a good thing to hurt when.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: You're not He's been a game time decision for the
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: past like four games. But obviously that toe was not
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: healing up yet. So I think we're in for a
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: great series. But I think the point we talked about
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: for the show started was, ah, I know that NBA
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: is not quite college, but home home court advantage NBA
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: can be special. And the Pacers got a really good
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: home court and they play really well there as a team.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: So if you're a college, college vibe in there, Yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a drunken college vibe going on.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: So if you're if you're the cap Layers, you can't
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: afford to lose this. You you gotta you gotta win
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Game two at home because you're it'd be highly unlikely,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: especially after losing Game one, for you to win games
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: scream for it, Indiana, I don't see it happening. So yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I think that we're in for a great series.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I do think that it's gonna be high scoring the
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: whole way. Like I bet the over first half last
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: game and the hit. I do think that over is
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: gonna probably be a theme. You know, it should be
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: probably one hundred and fifteen, hundred and nineteen, maybe one
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: hundred and twenty. You know, points in the game. The
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: points are can be lacking here. Defensively, these teams are
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: They're obviously respectable, but they're offensive, fluid, and they're gonna
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: jack probably both thirty five threes a game. So if
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I had to pick, obviously, no.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: You do, by the way, you do have to pick I.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I do think that.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I think with Indiana's home court, I do think that
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: was a huge step Game one to surprise them. So
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take I'm gonna be a little bold here,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna take, uh the Pacers the whole court
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: win in six.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And I'll fully admit that prior to Game one, I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: had Game seven Cleveland, Okay, I did, I was, I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: was in between on it now. At the same time,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I did make a bet, you know, with a plus number.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I just told the plus one ninety six or whatever.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: So I believed in the Pacers. I think they're better
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: defensively than that was the problem last year. They just
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it couldn't stop anybody. So it's like, yeah, that's great,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: man that you put up a buck thirty but they
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: got a buck thirty three, so it really doesn't matter.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I do.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're you know, the bad boys defense,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you know, back in the eighties and nineties, but they
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: are pretty they're better. They're better though, And like you
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: said that pace and it goes to the bench pace too,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: like the bench will do it, like everybody does that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I remember the Timberwolves couple probably about a month month
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and a half ago, got beat by the damn backups
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: pretty much, and it was just mostly do with pace.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: They just freaking ran ran, We just couldn't. It just
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: messed this up. So yeah, I am gonna do it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Six is more on the table now, You're right, because
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you know they stole home court. But I've always had
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: it ever since I was a kid. I understand why
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: people say that, because they have three games at home, right,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: and so if they just win the next three games
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: at home, they'll win. They'll win it. But does it
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: normally go down like that really on air? Unless you're
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: way better than the team, do you win every game?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean that, That's the only thing
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I've always had a weird thing with. So I kind
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: of put that in my prediction in a little bit too,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, so they're gonna for sure win all
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: three games, though I don't know if they'll win all
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: three games at home, you know, And to be honest
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: with you, Cleveland could come back and win the next two,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and they could take right and take it right back.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So until you get I always say this because last year,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: remember the Timberwolves got up to z it and everyone's like, dude,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: they got home court, Okay, but they lost three straight,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: so actually they don't have it anymore, you know, So
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: until you get to game six and you have three wins,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: then I say, yes, you took over home court, you
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: got it, you took it back. Because there's always that
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Game seven lingering at home. Yeah, you know, that's just
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm silly for that, but you know, I think
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it's a cliche for a reason to say they stole
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: home court. But I need you to win Game three.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: In Game four, then I'll know you did actually steal
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: home court back. So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Game seven. Indiana Pacers the home of basketball all right?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: In the end?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Cool?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, See, Denver, this is gonna be interesting. You know. Defensively,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: we know that the Nuggets. You obviously bring it up
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a notch in the playoffs, and I believe some of
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that we saw that, but they're now where near as
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: good as defense on defense as they were not even
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: that long ago, and they're nowhere as deep as they
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: were because a lot of those guys, you know, Bruce
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and KCP, a lot of those guys are gone. And
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna rely on Westbrook in the corner. That's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that's that can do great, it can do not great, right,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's Westbrook. And the one thing I'll
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: here's the thing like we just brought up hard in earlier, right,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you'll never see on the court that kind of demeanor
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: from Westbrook. Like this dude, whether you love him or
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: hate him, he's gonna try his ass off. You know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that's something about Westbrook I'll never take away, because yes, dude,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes he's going on the break, there's guys available,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm taking it. I'm going all the way.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: And you know he's messed that up at him and
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Durant couldn't blend enough or whatever, but sure it just
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: his effort is undeniable like that dude tries as as
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: much as he can and he's humbled himself to come
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: up the bench. Dude, that doesn't always happen. A lot
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: of people will just be like I'm good. I'm out.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes guys a couple of years. Like I
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: remember when when when a god who was oh Carmelo,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: he went, he got traded or he went as a
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: free agent, and the media person said, hey, you get
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: off the bench, and Melos like, hey, they said, I'm
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: gonna come off the bench, and then he was having
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: good years in Portland off the bench. So sometimes it
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: takes a little bit. But you know, Jokic is phenomenal.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: They have, you know, more than one big to put
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: on them. I just think defense in depth issues and
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: just relying on Jokis. You can only go to the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: wells so much in one game. Yes, in multiple games, sure,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: but after a while, dude, it you just ask too
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: much from him. And we know that that that's not
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a that's just not how you win a full series.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: So even though that guy sometimes looks gassed on the court,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: like when there's a dead whistle, he'll just be breathing heavy,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: but that dude hustles back. You know, he's really strong mentally.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: And he's a perfect example of Luca because we all
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: know people were high on Jokic, but not as high
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: as once he returned during COVID, and when he came
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: back from the COVID break, it was like, whoa, that's Jokic. Holy,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And he's been a different player since, so hopefully, uh,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: you know, Luca's never been that big, I don't think.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: But then he's also not a seven footer. So I'm
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: gonna go, I feel like this actually could go six.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: So I've seen a lot of five. I don't think
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: that's the case. I wouldn't be shocked at seven, but
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, okay, see in six.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I I think the biggest thing I've I've taken away
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: from this year cap just like observing, just like NBA
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: talk I've heard this from like gladi for fan base
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: is just facted how fucking good O.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Cassy has been this year.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: They're fucking nuts.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but obviously, you know, like you got to prove
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs too, because what was this team done
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Brother? You know, like I don't what you know?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Uh, they were they had a home court last year
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: against Dallas.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and grant they were.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: They were a shot away from a Shake Gilders jumper
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: from advance and so you know, but still they are
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: still a relatively young team besides like Shake Gilders. So
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, if you are the top dog
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: this year in the best in the NBA, up there
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: with Boston or better than Boston, can you prove it?
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: And obviously what they did to Memphis was like bullying,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: like you can't do that in school, and that is
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: to be in trouble.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: You know, that was that was bad.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: But I do think, hey, like, hey, you're getting a
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: good test now, like are you favored to be Devri? Yes,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: they're a strong favorite in Vegas. I couldn't believe the
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: series price, but Dever's been there before, like they they
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: got the track record, So I I guess, like I
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: guess yoga.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Dress balls on their bigs early.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: You know, like I get, I guess.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna see what the whole world's talking about. Like
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I was saying they did what Memphis has ass that's
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: on joke because for you to beat the team by
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: that much all the time, it clearly you're proven. But
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I want to see, like, you know, okay, like let's
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: see what you got, like are you gonna prove it?
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Like let's see.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: So I I guess, pardon me, thinks like and for
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: my playoff. Mind, Like, dude, Jokis is gonna give a
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: couple of games, but if if they get to their
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: ass first game, okay to me, if Denver's for real, Chris,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I think they take one of these games and okay,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: sere they make them close.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: But if both of these games are like.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Dude, oh, dude, like this ain't even pretty like okay,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: look out. So I'm gonna make a pick obviously, But
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I do think we'll be able to tell what kind
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: of series is gonna be on it if it's a
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: competitive because it's competitive, I think Dallas can Denver independent
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: of court. But if it's okay, see kind of whoops
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: up on him. I think this one might be quicker
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: than expected, and maybe they're gonna do what the Clippers
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: couldn't do.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: You know, So, do you.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Think it has to be one to one coming back home.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: To win it?
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's got.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Just competitive because you're still down to zip competitive or not?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with yeah, So I'm gonna go
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: with I do think that. Uh man, I'm gonna go.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Denver and or sorry, excuse me, I'm
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: gonna go. Okay, see in six. I think they close
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: out in Denver. I think Denver win's a couple, but
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I I don't. I guess I'm gonna drink the kool
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: and just say this, okay, see team is really good.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Uh and the Jokic train stops eventually. See I'm gonna say, yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Denver in got okay see official six games?
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I heard you almost say Denver and six
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: is like, oh shit, yeah. I mean remember last year
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: it was like, so who else is gonna score consistently for? Okay?
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: See right? I mean that's what it? Yeah, And so
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: are we positive that we're gonna get someone that averages
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: sixteen points? We're gonna get someone that averages eighteen points
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: in so on? Or is it gonna be one dude
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: average in thirty three? And then it drops down to
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: like fifteen and then twelve and then nine and then
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that that's like defensively, man,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: they're freaking damn good and they're deep and they played
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: together and they what was was chet did check play
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the whole whole series last year? A like he got hurt?
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I think he got banked up.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: See this is the thing I shouldn't ask that question.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I should have been looking it up while you were talking,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes you just I just don't do
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: the right thing. I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: right now, because that's the thing. Like, if you look
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs so far, William's twenty three point three
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: home grint eight or yeah, home grintu chet eighteen and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a half, and you know, SGA just short of twenty eight.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: He didn't have to go for thirty three or thirty
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: five or some kind of crazy ass number, you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: and that's gonna have to be. All right, let me
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: see if I can narrow it down here. Damn it,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I should have looked this up. But yeah, that's the
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: only thing that comes to mind, is like, is he
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: gonna are enough people gonna help him? Because you need help.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just a bottom line, all right. Let's see.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: So he did play in those Dallas series. He was
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: banged up, but he did play, and he was he averages.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: He averaged just short of sixteen points against Dallas. Yeah, OK, yeah,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: so he played. He definitely played. You know, he's been
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: banged up a pair amount in his in his career
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: so far. So it's like that's what kind of made
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: me think. Let me double check that. But yeah, I
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: think they're damn good. But let's just make sure that
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: supporting cast offensively is there as well. Boston, New York.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: No spoilers, I repeat, no spoilers.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, so for a live look yet I have the
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: one hundred and two to eighty eight.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, o man, Okay, nose part.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I got you, brother, And don't say you know Boston
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: and three because they're whipping New York's ass or something. Okay,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I know that shit too. I know you long enough
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: where there's hints that I don't.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I know I'm good at that. Yeah I don't. I don't.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Because I knew. I knew the score at half, and
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: that's it. I want to watch it. So, you know,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: we just talked about death. You know death. New York
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't have it now defense Like I just got done
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: saying before it was way better than I thought it
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: would be. But then again, Detroit didn't. It wasn't didn't
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: really score, you know, so you can't you can't look
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: too deep into that. But I'll tell you what, in
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a close game, they got clutch players too. So if
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: this ship is close in a game per se, even
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: if it's you know, tied up ten seconds ago, you
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: know who has the ball. It's kind of interesting right
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: now they do also you know who is also on
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: defense except for is he okay? One spoiler is Holiday
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: playing tonight?
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: He was lineup? Yeah, he was in the starting lineup tonight.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. So because because he can lock people.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Down, is he you assume he's not limited either if
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: he's out there, but maybe maybe he's a little beat up.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Who else but he did he did start?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: It was his hamstring? Yeah, so highly game. Yeah, but
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I highly doubt they put him in the game with
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a ft up hamstring, you know, yeah, just because they
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: know he came up big for him in a variety
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: of ways and sometimes with him the stats don't add up.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: But so you could say, oh, you know, Brown's uh,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I think he was his hip or something or is growing.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: And then Tatum missed the game and then this so
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: so they've been a little beat up. But it comes
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: down to like, can the Knicks steal a game or
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: or what? You know? Because I don't think you're gonna
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: pick them and pick Boston in six. Maybe I'm wrong.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: We haven't talked about this series. I think offensively, some
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: night they're just gonna build and win the game. So
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Boston and five with the potential for six.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: But I think that would be having to have holiday
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: off the court or something like that. But I just
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it. There's just too much standing
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: around in the fourth quarter. Although they're playing a little
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: bit better defense. I just I don't know, I just
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: don't see it. They're not deep enough for an offensive team.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: They're too streaky. I still think they have some synergy
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: that they got to work out and hey, you got
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a little dude and you got Cat. Let's see some
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: picking pops with that. You know, maybe they've been I
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: know multiple podcasts have been talking about that, and a
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: couple of people have said, well, they're just saving it
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: for this series. Okay, well it's time to unveal it then.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I got I got Boston. I'm thinking five.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll sweep him, but I'm hesitant to
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: go six. I think six is kind of maybe Cat
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: biased or something like that, hoping that they can you know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: make it, put up a good fight or whatever.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I do think that I just wasn't that oppressed with Boston.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's either Orlando played really good.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: They were competitive games.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: They were competitive, yeah and so and honestly that that
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: their last few series is close until bon Cheril got
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: foul troubles.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: So and that was a one man show.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Stop that alone. I think Brunson does some magic. So
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna kind of go with what you said. I'm
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: gonna take the Knicks and uh or sorry, I'm I'm
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: getting to Selexa here with my team. I'm taking Boston and.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: The Knicks up right now. See, you just gave me
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: a date.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Now, I did that last year.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take Boston Sixers because if you can't
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: play that impressive against the Magic, I do think you're
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: gonna give up one a massive square garden, you know,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: like I yeah, it's not I think it goes six.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: I should think I think it ends at MSG two.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I will take the Celtics and six. I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: just think that they need to kind of give their
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: shit together a little bit more, because even though they
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: did win that Magic series relatively easy from a series standpoint,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: those games were super close there's a lot of games
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: they were down in half or didn't win the first quarter.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: So it's makes me wonder, like what is Boston doing
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: so far? Like you can't sleep walk through a whole
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: series if you want to be a legit title contender.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: You know, normally it doesn't get that bad. So I'm
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: gonna take Boston in six.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: And as we said, with this core, they usually give
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: up a game, So yeah, that's true. Why I was
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: kind of leaning six. I just couldn't go that way.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I thought, I don't know, I just I couldn't do it.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: But I also think to that point, I don't think
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: they look better more often though too, or maybe I'm
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: just really understanding the magic.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I just don't think like Boston.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I think that, Yes, that one.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I think you were pissed when they were up two
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: to one on Golden State and then Golden State whooped
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: those young boys.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: And that that was that that that that was the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: cherry on top for Golden State. If we I don't
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: think you're ready to be your wolves, but we do,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: that'd be that'd be another chair.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: But I that was that was special. That one.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: That was fun and everybody was saying, oh, it's over.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: They're up two to one, and oh my god, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: you know or wait, was it was it two to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: one or two? Oh? It was like to one, wasn't it?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Here we go again? So and that's when they were
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, figuring it out. They've been to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: so many conference finals and you have to let a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: team fail sometimes, man. And that's why I keep bringing
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: up Jordan. Dude, do you know how many times he
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: failed in a big series? No, it doesn't mean and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: that's my whole point. It's not him failing, it's his team.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: The Chicago Bulls failed as a unit, and Phil Jackson
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: got brought in and he said, hey, Michael, you got
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to trust your teammates, dude. Now Pipping got better, way better, right,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: and everybody got better, and they you know, they lost
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Horace Grant. It was kind of weird. He took time off.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: But then they're like, hey, we're gonna bring this Rodman
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: guy in, you know, and then all of a sudden
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: they're like the best. And they had Ron Harper as
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: they're a veteran old dude who is still still could
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: who I just there's just too much individual ship now,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: uh in team sports. I don't get it. You talk boxing,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you talk tennis, you talk one on one track, Yeah, dude,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: like you know that's one on one doe. You lost
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: that race or you lost that fight. But I think
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: people and I get it. It's the matchups, you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and Magic and Larry and you know, I get I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: get it. I get why they say it, But I
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: just think that gets a little fun. But imagine the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: storylines of Golden State made it back, and it's a redemption.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: They took away their championship a couple of years ago,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: and you know it would be I think that would
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: actually be a hell of a build, man, I really do.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, casual casual fans don't start paying attention
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: to chill you can try to repeat.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody says, oh, we don't want good dynasties. Are
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: you sure? Have you seen the ratings on dynasties? They're
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: pretty good, you know. And the Spurs nobody liked their
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: style of play per se, but they never repeated because
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: of injury. They never repeated the championship. They go every
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: other year, but they never repeated. But a lot of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that had to do with someone was hurt, all right,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: What could be the most entertaining series of them all.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Golden State, Minnesoter. Like you said six and seven. Now
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: you know Minnesota has the home court advantage. You know,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: will they stay small? Golden State? I could see them saying,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: we literally just talk on a damn big team, right,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: so why not just try it? Let's stay small. I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: could totally see that. I could also see Looney just
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: playing off the bench. And I could also see them
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: starting Looney randomly. The dude hasn't played a lot lately.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: But how many times in that season that we just
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: mentioned that he come out and have eighteen rebounds or something,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He played active, like he's
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: an active player, and I think he's just gonna play more,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: whether he starts or not. I think Looney's gonna start more.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Another dude, Moody. Moody played good against US this season.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: He can't really look at the well, I mean regular season,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: preseason or in playoffs. You can't look at that person, say,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: but I did like to see the players that still
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: exist on the team. How they did. You know, we
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: know Jimmy's there, we know that. You know it's different,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: but they're better defensively now with Jimmy, and they have
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: two guys that can do something and then sometimes they've been,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: you know, going too far into leaning on the stuff.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: And when you get older, it's hard to do that.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: It's hard to do that after a while. Especially his
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: style of play. This dude runs a fucking marathon every
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: damn game, right, I mean he to get open. That guy,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: That guy runs like he runs to get open. So
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: you know, will they go small? And it's rooty and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: green and uh, you know, Jimmy Butler ran al on
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. We're gonna have to find out will Peyton
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: play in game one? He's a guy that they should
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: probably put on ant because they can't play Jimmy Butler
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: on and the whole series that's gonna wear his ass down.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting. I think it's a great matchup. The
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: one thing I'll say is the Wolves. The Wolves can
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: play small, and I wonder after a while, Okay, so
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: who do you have starting it off the bench? That's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: gonna cover Randall? Okay? Cool? Who's gonna card nods? Then
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: who's gonna you know, so our bigs are pretty damn
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: good and they could score, and then if Rudy can
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: just maintain position and get the misses. That helps too,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: so but yeah, the rivalry, dude, it's a weird rivalry.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: It's not a rivalry. It's a one sided thing. Of course,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: with Golden State the last decade being so good or great,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: I should say, but there's a lot of inner play here,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: and I really do think, at least for game one,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: we'll see. You know that. The thing about Buoy and
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Jimmy too much, Marshall is hold on, you know, do
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you really want to motivate Jimmy? You know I don't
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: want to motivated Jimmy. So no, I think it's gonna
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: be a great series. What says you, sir?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I I just I know I talked about the last.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Few I know you're down on your Warriors. Yeah, you
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: don't put up one hundred and eighty points a game,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you know. I just are better defensively, I'll say that.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, they're they're I mean when.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: In for the past handful of years, the obviously those
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: defense teams have won the titles were special because guys
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: like Clay and Aggy and Dre. Yet you had so
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: many defensive studs.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: But when Iggy was on Lebron and not Dre. Yeah,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that Draymond doesn't remember that,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: but I guess we remember.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: That Iggy Clay Dre that those boys were special this
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: team obviously. I just I really do think that Stephan
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Curry has to do too much to effectively run this offense.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: And I do think obviously the backside of like Jimmy Butler,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: you know, because they said if it wasn't playoffs Brown
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks, like he had that really
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: bad pelvis ball, like if he's not fully healthy, like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: you need a fully healthy Butler, and and obviously set
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: to do crazy shit. I just besides guys named Jimmy
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: and Steph, who's gonna do shit this series? Because what
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: scares me as a Golden State fan. I like the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: timer Wolves because you and my other good friends, like
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: a lot of my good friends Wolves fans, I have
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: no i' there's no ill will I you know, I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: think I think you guys win the series. I think
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: I think Draymond's got to do some dumb shit and
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: get in trouble because he's I believe he's two textway
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: from against suspended for a game because he was acting
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: like a fool.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: So if Draymond.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: Misses a game, now you're gonna miss. Like I just
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: I just think the Wolves are a much better team.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: And I hate saying about Golden Stake because I've been
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: pretty ivan.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Over the years of a like full team.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I because I really do think that it's too
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: hard for the Warriors to score.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: I do realize that Houston was a huge defensive team
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: and they're now. The Wolves are also great defensively too,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: but they're their DNA is a little bit different than
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: the than the makeup of Houston. But I've just not
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: been impressed with Golden State just from the way that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: it's like unless Steph is doing his part, you know.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Uh Yeah, I just think it's gonna be difficult for
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: them to match up with the Wolves offensive because.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: And even even if maybe.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: The Warriors do score a little bit more against Golden
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: State than they did, or excuse me, if even if
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: the Warriors offense goes a bit smoother versus Wolves, that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: against Houston, because Houston is just a bunch of like
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: insanely talton defense players. I I don't think they go, say,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: can answer the Wolves punch for punch, So if this
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: is a higher scoring series, like unless Steph goes off
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: every game, I don't see who matched it, because I
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: do see a guy like Aunt or Randall or go
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: bear hand that weird one. I think offensively, the squad
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: you support love is too gifted for the Warriors because back.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: In the day, I'm sure you had Stephan Clay. There's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: there's those Stephan Clay. It's just Steph.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, And the other part is yes, I know
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: the Warriors have a rotation, which I've heard some different
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: people on podcasts say, but our bench is not that talented,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: like Kaminga is in Steve kurz doghouse and really just
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: might not. He might sit for a couple of games
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: like that post kind of played himself out of that
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: last game. I think that Pozitsky's okay player, But is
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: he has step in the series. I don't know, Like
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: if you have to tell me to pick between the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: guy too, like Jayda McDaniels or Podzipsky, Like it's not
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: even cold or nas red against Louis. Like I just
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: think the Wolves are much better team and I think
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: y'all win the series kind of kind of relatively easily.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm taking Wolves.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: In from sweep. Let's go, what the hell is going on?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: I'm saying wolves in five.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Boy, you can tell you've moved away from Minnesota for
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: quite some time. Um, you don't have that extrafin you
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, I'm gonna think the worst. You
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: know that Minnesota sports vibe where you know you're just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: gonna automatically think the worst.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: That that that just switched out to my Dallas Cowboys
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: and the Vikings. It's still there.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: So here's the deal though, Okay, the reason why I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: think it's a different type of offense. And when you
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: say they just like they don't have Clay, Well, first
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: of all, play wasn't all that good in that championship.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: He had a crazy game, but overall on that run,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: he wasn't the Clay of Ole if we're being honest,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: especially defenseally because memory's coming off all those injuries.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm talking more like our prime years.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: So I know, I know I'm just saying, but what
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: you say is just Steph, I think that is a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: little disrespectful to Jimmy Buckets. I'll just say it just Steph.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's Butler just does his work.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: So quietly he really does, which I guess I need
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: to respect more because Butler's been a hell of an
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: additionary He's made them, he upgrade their defense. I just okay,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: So Butler quietly scores and does his part along with Steph.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: But what do you want him to do? Like closeline?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Somebody do it loud like.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Like after after those two guys, who is your who's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: the who's the next?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: I just needed that part. I just need that he's
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: gonna get booed like Jimmy's gonna be pitched. Yeah, you
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: don't need to add anything to Jimmy. You don't need
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: to add anything to Jimmy.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: He's got hope, his pelt, his back.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: You are right about that part though, because he wasn't
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: moving as well game game in and game out. That
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: is true. He was either really on or he was
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: just average scory. Now, defensively, there are you know, both
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: sides of the ball, right sure? So that that's and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: remember like the timberlves On offense can be knuckleheads, dude,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: they can be knuckleheads, like for real. I know it
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: didn't seem like that, and I know we're going against
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: another team that doesn't have that rim protector. Green could
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: cover bigs, but I wouldn't call him a rim protector.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, for sure.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: And in Golden State, I always had like a I
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: hate to even call it a token center, but there
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: was always a solid center who could just play. It's
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: not like, oh, guys the ship, but there was always
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: somebody that was just solid, right. Yeah, not Verdejo, but uh,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: the hell is that dude's name? Well, Looney. For a while,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: they had god, I can't remember his name. He played
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: for Cleveland for a couple of years. Start with a VV. Yeah.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: He would just give you good, like hard minutes. You know.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: It's all they really needed is just someone to play. Hey,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: you play center, cool, get in for twelve minutes, you know,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: get in for twenty eight minutes, you know. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: And that's why I do think Looney in that that
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: three point shooter dude will get in there to posts.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: But they did have time off, and they they didn't
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: necessarily get the scout per se, because they just found
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: out who they played. But playing defense against a more
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: precise Curry and Butler, who make great decisions on the court,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: is different than having to play he Houston, you know.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: And now you can say, well, they just they just
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: went against Lebron and Luca. That is true, But I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: mean they had they didn't have a Draymond Green. You know,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: they didn't have to be honest.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I like a couple of the role players like Reeves
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: got exploited too. Ajon Reeves to the bucket, like left
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: it right. He had, you know, some moments. But uh
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: hischan Moore had the best series outside of the top
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: two players. But I'm gonna say the Wolves, and I
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: feel like it's cliche to say seven games, but I'm
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: gonna say six or seven. It might be six because
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: the one thing is, you know, he Golden State just
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: won Game one in this last series, correct that he
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: was they were up ones that, Yeah, and then then
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: what they do they closed out on the road, true, right,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: So and then it's also that time off. We've been
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: off since last Wednesday, that little play and vibe of
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: college basketball. I do think there's something to that Game one.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: I think a long series you wear people out. But
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: when you're hot and you're going and you're you've been
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: in your rhythm and then you come back. I'm a
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: little afraid of Game one for the walls.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a little afraid of game one. I think if
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: they lose it, I feel like they can win too.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: And I went or game two, and I wouldn't be
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: surprised they got back up two to one, because they're
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: a really good road team up until these last these
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: last you know, two games at home, we were we
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: were really bad on the road in the playoffs with
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: this core, with the core we have. So I'm gonna
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: say Wolves in six, maybe seven. You just don't get
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: that many seven games series obviously, But yeah, we'll kind
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: of I think early on, uh kind of like you're
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: saying in Boston, early on, we'll see how Butler feels.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Because you're right, I think that is that is a
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: key thing. I mean, they sat him during the playoffs.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: That tells you it's not great, you know, they sat
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: him for that one game. Yeah, but they were also
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: up ones zet so I think that's why they were
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: able to do it, you know, And they got up
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: three to one. That does bug me a little bit.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: They got up three to one. Nonchalantley said, eh, game five,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: who needs it. We'll just go back to the Bay.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: We'll figure it out, and then they did, and then
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: they had to win Game seven. So that kind of
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: bugs me too, Like you said, they're not the team
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: they were even a couple of years ago when they
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: won the Chip. So I am gonna go with my boys. Okay, yeah,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I think that that wraps it up, correct.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I think we got everybody covered.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, I believe so. Yeah.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Oh so let me just the last question which I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: had for you in my head. I was surprised to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: see that the Wolves actually did lose the season series.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: But as I told my buddy that, he's like, dude,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: you know as much because I still like my pick
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: of the Wolves to win it. He's like, you know,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: regular seasons only regular season, He's like, dude, just like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Houston was a two seed, you know. So I think
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: there's sometimes where you can look into how they play
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: against each other, which is true. But then also you know,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: it's the fact that, like, well, you know, I still
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: think from watching both teams playing Round one, I'm feeling
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: pretty confident, uh.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: With the Wolves pick.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: But obviously maybe as a Golden State fash but they
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: do we won three out of four, Like it's not
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: where maybe my my five game pick is a bit crazy,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: So we'll see. Maybe maybe it just it's just such
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: different contrasting styles of of how Houston played versus they're
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: gonna have to play versus the Wolves in that obviously,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: like you said, come first half of game one, I'll
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: maybe have a better sense of feeling of what to
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: expect moving forward.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Well, and they are. I still think they're second in
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: the league in threes. Golden State, I think we're the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: fifth or seventh, you know opposition where we uh where
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: we we don't shut down the three, but we defend it. Well, yeah,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: we take a lot of threes as well. So if
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: they're difficult, that's another thing. If if we could just
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: if McDaniels can, because he's so long, if he can
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: make Steph work for it, if Randall can make you
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: need work for it. We know they're you know, especially Steph,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get his, but you know, make him go
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: if he's gonna hit six threes, make it be like
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: seventeen of them or something like that, you know what
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like make him go on a bad streak,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: you know, instead of like seven of eleven or something
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: like that. You know. And yeah, the other thing is
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: that's why I went back and looked at the games again,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: or I didn't watch the games. I looked at the
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: box scores because I did want to see who played
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: good in those games regardless. And we could say, oh,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the Timberwolves, man, they've come around now, because when they
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: were playing, that's when they're figuring it out, right. But
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: then again, they added Jimmy Butler too, and they figured
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: it out. So they're not the same team from earlier
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: this year either. So that's why I'm a little you
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: know that I think people are undervaluing unbelievably at times.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Golden State. Still we know they're not the team they were,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm doing that as a fan who I've always
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: loved that team. I just I don't know. Yeah, you're right,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: we'll see. We'll see saw.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: That note Hey uh and hey, okay, see Dever I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: last said, I really think that the first games that
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: series are gonna tell me. You know, if Denver puts
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: up a fighter of okay, see runs through like the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Memphis Okays might be the just take to that glass
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: slipper to the final of Western Conference files a wait
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: for the Wolves are the Doves. We'll see so on
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: that note, Hey enjoy the weather, enjoy the time of
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: the year, get out, play a little golf, have some fun.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: The boys are out tonight.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Peace,