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O'Brien & Doug S6:E9 [July 7, 2022 MARK!!!] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_03: The O'Brien and Doug Podcast is brought to you in part by MojarMultimedia.com.
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SPEAKER_03: Damn it's music in PressCyle Maine, the rift runner in Westfield Maine.
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SPEAKER_03: Doug Doug.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh man, I'm so excited.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Immob.
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SPEAKER_05: Woo! You're listening to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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SPEAKER_03: Now do it like you mean it.
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SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
0:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm Doug Still.
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SPEAKER_03: Live.
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SPEAKER_03: I keep saying live.
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SPEAKER_03: We're live.
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SPEAKER_03: We're not live.
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SPEAKER_03: We're not live.
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SPEAKER_03: We're alive, but we're not live.
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SPEAKER_03: In the fun dungeon.
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SPEAKER_03: Um it's been uh it seems like it's been a while.
0:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh it seems seems like it's been longer than it has.
0:49
SPEAKER_03: It's only been a couple weeks.
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SPEAKER_03: Feels like it's been forever.
0:52
SPEAKER_07: I know.
0:52
SPEAKER_07: I know.
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SPEAKER_07: Like a hundred years ago.
0:54
SPEAKER_07: I was like, hey, remember, remember back in the day when we did a podcast?
0:58
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
0:59
SPEAKER_03: Two weeks ago?
0:59
SPEAKER_03: Two weeks ago, yeah, yeah.
1:01
SPEAKER_03: So much has changed.
1:04
SPEAKER_03: We're on uh season six, episode We're a little bit older.
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SPEAKER_03: Nine.
1:09
SPEAKER_03: Episode nine.
1:10
SPEAKER_03: Number nine.
1:11
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, well, we'll just get this out of the way.
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SPEAKER_03: The the reason we took a break last week was because I completely forgot.
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SPEAKER_03: I didn't forget my anniversary, but I forgot that we were going away for my my anniversary.
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SPEAKER_03: I had we had uh we have a family camp down in Shapley, and uh I arranged uh to have the camp for the week uh for my 25th wedding anniversary to my beautiful bride.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: And um so I I I think it was I don't remember where we were.
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SPEAKER_03: Was it in Mapleton?
1:46
SPEAKER_08: What?
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SPEAKER_03: We played we when the syndicate played, and I said, uh yeah, we're we're leaving tomorrow, and you said, so no podcast this week.
1:52
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
1:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, exactly.
1:54
SPEAKER_07: It was right after the show.
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SPEAKER_07: We were all standing around talking.
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SPEAKER_07: It was you and me and Morton and Joel and Missy and all that, and we were just like, Yes, we're taking off.
2:02
SPEAKER_07: And I'm like, when are you gonna be back?
2:04
SPEAKER_07: I don't know, Tuesday or Wednesday, and I'm like, so no podcast.
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SPEAKER_07: I don't even get any you did that pause, you it was like, it was like you know, it was like the cartoon light bulb would pop off your head.
2:14
SPEAKER_07: It was like, oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, actually, we were coming back Thursday, which would completely miss the miss the mark because we we dropped the podcast on Thursday morning.
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SPEAKER_03: So so uh thankfully Doug was able to get his phone working and and do a clever little video.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm good at that.
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SPEAKER_05: I do videos that uh that said why.
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SPEAKER_03: So yeah, we uh we went down to the camp on Sunday, and my wife and I had a couple of uh well, two and a half days by ourselves.
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SPEAKER_03: Cool.
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SPEAKER_03: Um and then um two of my boys had basketball camp all week, uh, but my youngest really had her heart set on going to camp this summer to our camp.
2:53
SPEAKER_03: So we had Jude drive her down to Old Town.
2:57
SPEAKER_03: We drove up, picked her up, went back to camp.
2:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
3:01
SPEAKER_03: It's Tuesday night.
3:02
SPEAKER_04: Right.
3:03
SPEAKER_03: But she had um, you know, we went to the beach on Wednesday and hung out, you know, on the beach.
3:08
SPEAKER_03: It was cold.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, and then we came back on Thursday.
3:11
SPEAKER_03: So she got a she got a good day of camp, day and a half of camp in uh so she was in the water and and and stuff like that.
3:17
SPEAKER_03: But the first two days, we got down there Sunday night, and it was just chill.
3:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean it was just and that's what it was for.
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SPEAKER_03: It was just to be together and just relax.
3:29
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
3:29
SPEAKER_03: And Monday we didn't have to get up for anything.
3:32
SPEAKER_03: Right.
3:33
SPEAKER_03: Um, so we slept in as long as we could.
3:35
SPEAKER_03: I for some reason my body, my my clock is set for five or six.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:40
SPEAKER_03: So I get up anyway, or I wake up anyway.
3:42
SPEAKER_03: But uh we just hung out and um let's see, Monday we didn't do much.
3:47
SPEAKER_03: We went out to lunch.
3:49
SPEAKER_03: Um we went to Applebee's because we're fancy like that.
3:52
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah.
3:53
SPEAKER_07: Um Well, when you when you live in a place that doesn't have an Applebee's within within, you know, 150 miles.
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SPEAKER_07: Yep.
4:00
SPEAKER_03: My wife had a margarita.
4:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh you know, which is like That's an adult beverage.
4:06
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
4:08
SPEAKER_03: And uh I think I don't remember what we did.
4:11
SPEAKER_03: I really don't remember what we did Monday night.
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SPEAKER_03: I think we just hung out and uh we got some sun, sat on the dock, and we did a lot of that Sitting.
4:21
SPEAKER_03: Tuesday we got we got up late.
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SPEAKER_03: Tuesday we went to because we were going to pick up my daughter to Old Town, so we went to Freeport, went uh to all the shops in Freeport, and then uh drove up.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, i does any does it strike anybody else ironic that the biggest retail town in Maine is called Freeport?
4:42
SPEAKER_07: Uh no.
4:43
SPEAKER_07: I don't know what you mean.
4:44
SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
4:45
SPEAKER_07: Just just an observation from the from the live seat.
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SPEAKER_03: It's a free port.
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SPEAKER_03: It's where you can port for free, but then spend all your money.
4:53
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah, well that's that's typical of uh sailors.
4:56
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_07: You know, you know, they come to shore and they spend all their money and then go back.
4:59
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's smart.
5:01
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_07: That's why I didn't join the Navy.
5:02
SPEAKER_03: And then we went to um then we went to uh Bangor before we went to Old Town.
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SPEAKER_03: Bangor.
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SPEAKER_03: Instead of uh doing it on the way home, I uh I went to Bull Moose.
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SPEAKER_03: Of course.
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SPEAKER_03: And uh and that's a must-do.
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SPEAKER_03: And I bought a couple of um CDs that you know my wife knows about.
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SPEAKER_03: She knows about these.
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SPEAKER_07: Your your definition of the word a couple is loose.
5:28
SPEAKER_07: What?
5:29
SPEAKER_07: What do you mean?
5:32
SPEAKER_03: Um and went to BAM and all the magazines are like twenty dollars, so I didn't get her.
5:39
SPEAKER_07: It's a it's a dying art form.
5:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
5:41
SPEAKER_03: Um and then uh we went and got our our daughter and and I mean the rest of the week was I mean it was just kind of entertaining her, and it was it was fun.
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SPEAKER_03: We had a we had a good uh good anniversary trip.
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SPEAKER_03: So good.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm glad uh we had to do something different for our what was it, nine twenty-seven?
5:53
SPEAKER_06: Twenty-five.
5:54
SPEAKER_06: Twenty-five.
5:54
SPEAKER_06: Oh it was twenty five.
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SPEAKER_06: Twenty five years.
5:56
SPEAKER_03: Gotcha.
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SPEAKER_03: Um we had to do something relatively big and different because normally our anniversaries are like so um Oh, you want to go out to eat?
6:07
SPEAKER_07: Sounds like I was doing the podcast.
6:08
SPEAKER_07: Right.
6:08
SPEAKER_07: What do you want to do?
6:09
SPEAKER_03: You want to go out to eat?
6:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay, yeah.
6:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, I last year I tried to get, you know.
6:15
SPEAKER_03: Well, it wasn't the last year or the year you tried to like make dinner and put it out on a and I did it, I was successful, but I the the reaction that I got was not what I was anticipating.
6:24
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was lackluster, wasn't it?
6:25
SPEAKER_06: It was lackluster.
6:26
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
6:27
SPEAKER_03: That's a good word.
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SPEAKER_03: Um I I got a um a screen tent and put it out right out by the porch here and and and put like uh those those uh kiki torches, wasn't it?
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SPEAKER_03: Kiki torches and lights and stuff that went all around the tent and and um got her a steak dinner and uh steak and it was and wine and was trying to romance my wife after twenty at that time twenty-four years.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
6:52
SPEAKER_03: And she came out and uh surprised her and she's like, Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: And then sat down and ate and that was it.
7:02
SPEAKER_03: Happy anniversary.
7:03
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
7:04
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
7:05
SPEAKER_03: So I haven't cracked that nut yet.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, you'll get that.
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SPEAKER_03: Haven't cracked that code after twenty-five years.
7:11
SPEAKER_07: Well, you know, it took you know, it took it to you know, we're still trying to figure out the atom.
7:16
SPEAKER_03: You know, so I mean, you know.
7:17
SPEAKER_03: We did we did talk about um and not that I mean this is all you know personal stuff, but this was kind of funny.
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SPEAKER_03: Um I said, I've been trying to romance you for twenty-five years.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh I guess we just don't have the same love language.
7:31
SPEAKER_03: What is your love language?
7:32
SPEAKER_03: She's like, Dishes, laundry, you know, sweeping the floor.
7:40
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, You're kidding, right?
7:42
SPEAKER_03: No, no, that turns me on.
7:45
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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SPEAKER_03: She didn't say that turns me on, but she's that's what that's that's her love language.
7:51
SPEAKER_07: That's what you heard.
7:52
SPEAKER_07: That's what I heard.
7:54
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm gonna start doing the dishes a lot more now.
7:56
SPEAKER_03: And uh and uh, you know, folding the laundry actually folded the laundry.
8:00
SPEAKER_07: You should do it without your shirt on.
8:02
SPEAKER_03: No, nobody wants to see that.
8:03
SPEAKER_07: Hey, what's that?
8:06
SPEAKER_07: Moth sud! Look at me rinse this plate.
8:16
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, anyway, so the anniversary I'm gonna wash some boxers.
8:23
SPEAKER_03: The anniversary trip was a success.
8:26
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then so we before we went on the the trip, we did.
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SPEAKER_03: We played our first gig, uh, local gig.
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SPEAKER_03: We played in Mapleton with the Syndicate.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
8:35
SPEAKER_03: And that was an experience.
8:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
8:38
SPEAKER_07: It was like it was like that guy that tight roped walked between the twin towers back in the 70s.
8:46
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
8:47
SPEAKER_07: That's what it felt like.
8:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, let's qualify this for a second, because we loved playing for Mapleton.
8:51
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it was a great gig.
8:53
SPEAKER_03: All the people are great in Mapleton.
8:54
SPEAKER_03: We and we really enjoy playing for anyone, right?
8:58
SPEAKER_03: Um we are a 19-piece band, and it's hard to squeeze us in weird places.
9:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
9:08
SPEAKER_03: So we typically get two flatbed trucks and um put them side by side so that it's deep enough and long enough to fit the whole band.
9:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
9:20
SPEAKER_03: And we showed up um in Mapleton and there was one flatbed.
9:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: It was thinner, but it was longer.
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SPEAKER_03: And it had a uh, I don't know what you call those.
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SPEAKER_03: Like a platform.
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SPEAKER_03: A platform that was like a lip that, you know.
9:34
SPEAKER_03: And so we ended up having to put the horns all on one end, yeah, and the rest of the band played on the rest of the flatbed, which made communication uh and actually just hearing the horns throughout the entire show difficult.
9:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I don't remember through the whole gig really being able to hear any horn whatsoever.
9:54
SPEAKER_03: Nope.
9:55
SPEAKER_03: And I don't and and people said it sounded great.
9:57
SPEAKER_07: Uh well, as long as everybody was happy out there, yeah.
10:01
SPEAKER_07: That's that's the point.
10:02
SPEAKER_03: It was hard to play.
10:03
SPEAKER_07: But it was very hard to play because you couldn't hear the horns, couldn't get those cues, you know.
10:07
SPEAKER_07: It was just really it was very difficult.
10:10
SPEAKER_07: We got through it though.
10:11
SPEAKER_07: Of course we did, you know.
10:12
SPEAKER_07: So we didn't even have our lead singer.
10:14
SPEAKER_03: We didn't.
10:14
SPEAKER_03: That's oh yeah, I forgot about that.
10:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because we uh we split up lead singing duties among three of us, four of us.
10:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, four of us.
10:21
SPEAKER_06: Well, you, me, Missy, Joel, yep, yep, Mark.
10:24
SPEAKER_03: Oh, five of us.
10:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's right.
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SPEAKER_03: Mark sang too.
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SPEAKER_06: Mark sang, yeah.
10:28
SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, and I think we did okay.
10:30
SPEAKER_07: I mean we Well yeah, I I think we carried it well.
10:34
SPEAKER_07: I mean, we didn't you know have that flair that Anthony puts on his songs, but you know we did our best.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I think I think it was a success.
10:42
SPEAKER_03: Um and then we uh again we played, so we're recording this on a Tuesday, we played for the Fourth of July um on a big soccer field.
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SPEAKER_03: Great crowd.
10:51
SPEAKER_03: That was a good crowd, great crowd.
10:53
SPEAKER_03: We could hear the horns.
10:54
SPEAKER_03: We could hear the horns.
10:55
SPEAKER_03: It was uh it was still a tight squeeze.
10:57
SPEAKER_03: It was a small stage.
10:58
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it wasn't as bad.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: No, it was a smaller stage, but it wasn't as bad.
11:01
SPEAKER_07: I w I was uh I was afraid for the uh saxophone section because their section of the stage was sinking into the ground.
11:07
SPEAKER_07: Yes, I saw that.
11:08
SPEAKER_07: Because uh did you see did you see me after the gig when I stepped on that and it sunk and I almost like fell off?
11:14
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine if that was still there when the when the horns were up?
11:16
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I'm glad they didn't fall off because that would have been ugly.
11:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:20
SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, so another successful Syndicate gig.
11:23
SPEAKER_03: We play again uh in a couple weeks, I think.
11:26
SPEAKER_03: Next Saturday.
11:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not this Saturday, but next Saturday.
11:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
11:28
SPEAKER_03: The 16th.
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SPEAKER_03: So Potato Blossom Festival.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we're excited about that.
11:32
SPEAKER_03: I played oh, I played in another band.
11:34
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
11:35
SPEAKER_03: Sunday night, I got asked to plu to fill in for uh an old country band called the Good All Boys and Girls.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:43
SPEAKER_03: And it went very well, I think.
11:46
SPEAKER_03: I mean we got we got rained on, so we had there was a little part in there where Well that was yeah, oh yeah.
11:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
11:51
SPEAKER_07: I was gonna think it was Friday, but that wasn't it.
11:55
SPEAKER_07: Friday was the downpour night.
11:56
SPEAKER_03: But I got to sing like Dwight Yoakum and um Garth Brooks and you know stuff I don't normally get to sing.
12:03
SPEAKER_03: Right.
12:04
SPEAKER_03: So uh that was kind of fun, and I appreciate them asking me to to do that.
12:09
SPEAKER_03: Um so uh you know, and and now I'm teaching guitar uh for July and August at KMH Music, one of our fine sponsors.
12:16
SPEAKER_03: Um speaking of KMH, I picked up a couple of albums.
12:19
SPEAKER_03: They're in the car.
12:20
SPEAKER_07: Um that's a good place for them, they're safe there.
12:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
12:24
SPEAKER_07: Um because you got a turntable in your car.
12:26
SPEAKER_03: Well, yes.
12:27
SPEAKER_07: Of course, man.
12:28
SPEAKER_03: I just forgot to bring them in.
12:30
SPEAKER_03: One of them is Jackson Brown's first record.
12:33
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
12:33
SPEAKER_03: And the other one is Free Fire and Water, which is Paul Rogers and Simon Kirk from Bad Company.
12:40
SPEAKER_03: Why?
12:41
SPEAKER_03: The band that they had before Bad Company.
12:43
SPEAKER_03: Um Paul Kossoff was the guitar player.
12:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh so you got Fire and Water, um, oh, Mr.
12:48
SPEAKER_03: Big, the um the song Mr.
12:50
SPEAKER_03: Big, where Mr.
12:50
SPEAKER_03: Big got their name.
12:51
SPEAKER_03: Right, is on this album.
12:53
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
12:53
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty pumped to uh add that to my collection.
12:57
SPEAKER_07: I picked up uh Chicago Transit Authority.
13:00
SPEAKER_07: Oh, the first one.
13:01
SPEAKER_07: The very first Chicago.
13:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh, and we talked about Terry Kath, man.
13:04
SPEAKER_07: Terry Kath is a legend.
13:06
SPEAKER_07: He he was but he's not recognized.
13:09
SPEAKER_03: He's not.
13:10
SPEAKER_03: There's a documentary about him.
13:12
SPEAKER_03: Well, there's a documentary about Chicago.
13:13
SPEAKER_03: No, there's a documentary about Terry Kath.
13:15
SPEAKER_03: There is?
13:16
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
13:16
SPEAKER_03: I have to watch this documentary.
13:18
SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
13:18
SPEAKER_03: It's it's done by his daughter.
13:20
SPEAKER_06: What's it called?
13:20
SPEAKER_06: Um I gotta look it up.
13:22
SPEAKER_06: I gotta find this.
13:22
SPEAKER_06: The Terry Kath Experience?
13:24
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
13:24
SPEAKER_06: I gotta find this, man.
13:25
SPEAKER_03: Because Kat Terry Kath was a big Jimi Hendrix fan.
13:28
SPEAKER_03: Yes, he was.
13:28
SPEAKER_03: Um and I think I think the documentary is called the Terry Kath Experience, and it's awesome.
13:33
SPEAKER_07: But Jimi Hendrix said that Terry Kath was better than he was.
13:36
SPEAKER_03: I agree.
13:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he did say that.
13:37
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
13:37
SPEAKER_03: So and Billy Gibbons from Z Top was Hendrix's favorite guitar player.
13:41
SPEAKER_03: Did you know that?
13:42
SPEAKER_07: I did not know that.
13:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:43
SPEAKER_03: Hendrix actually said Billy Gibbons was his favorite guitar player.
13:46
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
13:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: Impressive.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:48
SPEAKER_03: Um so I I yeah, you should watch that.
13:51
SPEAKER_03: I think I believe it's called the Terry Kath Experience.
13:53
SPEAKER_03: I have to find it.
13:53
SPEAKER_03: And it's it's done by his daughter, and he goes and she goes and she there is a lot of Chicago in it, obviously.
13:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure, yeah.
14:00
SPEAKER_03: She she goes to all the all the former members and all the current members.
14:04
SPEAKER_03: And because they're all willing to talk about Terry Kath.
14:06
SPEAKER_03: Even Peter Sotera's in this one.
14:07
SPEAKER_07: Really?
14:08
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
14:08
SPEAKER_07: Man.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I believe so.
14:09
SPEAKER_07: You couldn't get that guy to get on that that Chicago one.
14:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: I know.
14:13
SPEAKER_07: They just do the archived stuff.
14:15
SPEAKER_07: Right.
14:15
SPEAKER_03: You know, so yeah, but they did.
14:16
SPEAKER_03: They interviewed uh Peter Sotera as well.
14:18
SPEAKER_03: That's impressive.
14:19
SPEAKER_03: Because I mean it was Terry Kath's daughter, and they can't say no to Terry Kath.
14:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:23
SPEAKER_03: So um, so yeah, that was good.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: And uh oh, so yeah, we you got so you got Chicago Transit Authority, which is the first album.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: Uh let's see.
14:32
SPEAKER_03: What else happened?
14:34
SPEAKER_03: Anything else happened?
14:36
SPEAKER_03: I will tell you this, uh, because I had my first day of guitar lessons today.
14:40
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, how'd it go?
14:41
SPEAKER_03: It won it went pretty well.
14:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, after the first couple lessons, and most of them were beginner lessons.
14:46
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
14:46
SPEAKER_03: Um the d the jitters were out of the way, and I think it was I think it's gonna be okay.
14:51
SPEAKER_03: I got a couple that have signed up for lessons that already play guitar.
14:54
SPEAKER_03: So I like like one of them is is uh the son of one of the people that I was playing with on Sunday.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: I said, Why am I teaching you guitar?
15:02
SPEAKER_03: You you know, and he's like, Oh, I can always there's always new stuff to learn.
15:06
SPEAKER_03: And in my back of my head, I'm like, I know I'm trying to learn it.
15:11
SPEAKER_07: We'll learn it together.
15:13
SPEAKER_03: So, but I he signed up for guitar lessons, so I gotta figure out something a little more advanced to teach him.
15:18
SPEAKER_03: So it should be a challenge.
15:20
SPEAKER_03: Um but I you know all those stories that Chris Morton always tells about the clientele that freaked me out.
15:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
15:30
SPEAKER_03: Well, I was a witness to it today.
15:32
SPEAKER_03: He's not lying.
15:33
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm sure he's not.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, and he's not exaggerating any of it.
15:39
SPEAKER_03: It was eye opening, and I was like, I was like between lessons, and I was just kind of walking around, you know, while he was dealing with some people.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:47
SPEAKER_03: And I wanted to help, I wanted to like save him somehow, but I I had no idea what to do.
15:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:53
SPEAKER_03: But he, I mean, obviously he's been dealing with it for for a long time.
15:57
SPEAKER_03: Keep in mind the the majority of the the clientele that go into the KMH music are fantastic people.
16:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
16:02
SPEAKER_03: You know, upstanding individuals and and uh just that always that 10%.
16:07
SPEAKER_03: There's that 10% that wanders the town, uh, wanders the streets of of of of where we live, and and um I got home, my wife goes, How did the guitar lessons go?
16:17
SPEAKER_03: I said, pretty well.
16:18
SPEAKER_03: And I had my eyes wide open.
16:19
SPEAKER_03: She's like, What?
16:20
SPEAKER_03: I said, There's a drug problem in this town.
16:24
SPEAKER_03: No.
16:25
SPEAKER_03: It was it was really eye-opening, but uh I feel for him, you know, some of the things that he has to deal with.
16:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
16:32
SPEAKER_03: But he's good at it.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, of course he is.
16:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's good at it.
16:35
SPEAKER_07: Otherwise he wouldn't open a music shop, so all right.
16:38
SPEAKER_03: All right, so let's uh we got some of that uh stuff out of the way.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: Let's talk about uh some of the things that are going on in music news today.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh the first thing I want to talk about, you have you ever heard of Kate Bush?
16:52
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
16:53
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
16:54
SPEAKER_03: She released a song back in 1985, 84, 85, something like that.
17:02
SPEAKER_07: It was the thing I'm thinking of.
17:04
SPEAKER_07: It was like mid eighties.
17:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
17:06
SPEAKER_07: 8040.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: Well, this and the reason I'm telling you this is because well, I I heard it over the weekend on the or our over our anniversary trip on the radio, and I was like, I've never heard this song so many times.
17:17
SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know what why is it why am I hearing this song so many times?
17:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, apparently it was it only got to number 30 on the Billboard Top 100 back in 86, I think.
17:31
SPEAKER_03: Or 85.
17:33
SPEAKER_03: Um But it it was used in Stranger Things.
17:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
17:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh which I have not seen.
17:41
SPEAKER_03: Um my son wants me to let him see it, but which one?
17:47
SPEAKER_03: Eli.
17:48
SPEAKER_03: He's 14.
17:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:49
SPEAKER_03: He probably could watch it, but I just I don't know.
17:52
SPEAKER_07: I've never seen it, so I don't I don't know anything about it.
17:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's it's his it's his a friend of his a friend of his favorite show.
18:00
SPEAKER_03: So as a girl.
18:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh, speaking of that, let's go back to that for a second.
18:06
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: Because we s we've we we glossed over that.
18:11
SPEAKER_03: So the syndicate, um, when we played the Mapleton gig, um my my not middle son, my fourth, number four Finn, he likes to come to the shows with dad.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: Because he genuinely likes to help.
18:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:30
SPEAKER_03: He likes to set up the the gear, and when we're all done, he likes to help tear it all down.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:36
SPEAKER_03: And I welcome that.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: You know, and it's not everybody that has their own roadie.
18:40
SPEAKER_03: That's true.
18:40
SPEAKER_03: Right?
18:41
SPEAKER_03: So he came with me to Mapleton and helped me set everything up.
18:48
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
18:49
SPEAKER_03: And when the gig was over, Finn was nowhere to be found.
18:55
SPEAKER_03: No.
18:57
SPEAKER_03: And I know now I know na now why he wanted to go to Mapleton.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: Well, he's 12.
19:07
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
19:08
SPEAKER_03: And there's a certain girl.
19:10
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
19:12
SPEAKER_03: And uh he ended up uh just kind of ditching the band and hanging out with this girl.
19:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he did.
19:17
SPEAKER_03: And we uh when he came back, we told him he was fired.
19:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, basically.
19:22
SPEAKER_07: Not that he gets paid anyway, but um and uh but you know what i it it it cemented his uh his status as a true roadie.
19:30
SPEAKER_07: Yes, because yes, it's because he he ditched his duties to hang out with women.
19:35
SPEAKER_07: Yes, it's true.
19:36
SPEAKER_07: So it's like i the transformation is now complete.
19:39
SPEAKER_07: Right.
19:39
SPEAKER_07: You know, right.
19:40
SPEAKER_07: He's no longer Anakin Skywalker, he's Darth Bader.
19:43
SPEAKER_03: And uh and uh to put uh a cherry on the top of that Saturday, um uh this girl's parents it was past Saturday.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: This girl's parents invited him out to their camp in Portage.
19:57
SPEAKER_03: And so he spent the whole day out there, went water skiing and tubing and stuff like that, had a great time.
20:01
SPEAKER_03: Well good.
20:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so it was good.
20:03
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, back to Kate Bush.
20:05
SPEAKER_03: So Stranger Things.
20:06
SPEAKER_03: I've not seen it.
20:08
SPEAKER_03: Um neither have I.
20:09
SPEAKER_03: I've heard some odd things about it.
20:11
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's a different show.
20:12
SPEAKER_03: It's a different kind of show.
20:13
SPEAKER_07: It's like X-Files with kids.
20:15
SPEAKER_03: Right.
20:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:16
SPEAKER_03: Um he he's been asking asking me to let him watch it.
20:20
SPEAKER_03: I probably will at some point.
20:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh his m his mother doesn't want him to, but he's 14, you know, so I don't know.
20:27
SPEAKER_03: There's a there's a line there that I have to, you know, yeah, kind of cross at some point.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, this song, uh actually, let me see if I can.
20:38
SPEAKER_03: You'll know it when you hear it.
21:39
SPEAKER_03: So it's called Running Up That Hill.
21:42
SPEAKER_03: And so and I've heard I've seen that on like TikTok videos and Instagram, and it's it's being used all over the place.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: Right.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: And uh most notably on the fourth season of Stranger Things.
21:53
SPEAKER_03: Well, it hit number thirty in 1985.
21:58
SPEAKER_03: Um, it's now It's third week at number one on the UK singles chart.
22:04
SPEAKER_03: So that's why I was hearing it that that whole week that I was away, and it has so far generated uh$2.3 million in streaming royalties.
22:16
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
22:16
SPEAKER_03: Uh in three weeks.
22:18
SPEAKER_03: It's pretty impressive.
22:19
SPEAKER_03: And or or I shouldn't say in three weeks.
22:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, maybe.
22:22
SPEAKER_03: Maybe like a month, probably.
22:24
SPEAKER_03: And Kate Bush owns all her all her copyrights.
22:27
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's good.
22:28
SPEAKER_03: So she's getting like 80% of the side.
22:30
SPEAKER_03: She's making bank on the show.
22:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's making bank on that one song from from 1985.
22:34
SPEAKER_03: And that's not the first time we've seen something like that happen.
22:37
SPEAKER_07: Well no, I mean that's the that's the glee uh factor.
22:40
SPEAKER_07: Right.
22:40
SPEAKER_07: Remember, remember when Glee was on and they brought back, you know, like Don't Stop, Believe in My Journey.
22:46
SPEAKER_07: Remember how huge that guy?
22:47
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
22:48
SPEAKER_03: Just because it was on the side.
22:49
SPEAKER_03: It was on the Sopranos.
22:50
SPEAKER_03: And the Sopranos.
22:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it ended the Sopranos, the whole series.
22:53
SPEAKER_03: Oh, did it?
22:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:53
SPEAKER_03: The whole series.
22:54
SPEAKER_07: But it was on Glee, too.
22:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
22:56
SPEAKER_07: Um but I think for for you know older songs like that, shows like Glee were like old.
23:03
SPEAKER_07: Because if they were on those songs, you knew it was going to get popular.
23:05
SPEAKER_03: And and and I don't know what to think about that because I love that those songs are still popular.
23:11
SPEAKER_03: I I love because um But it's but it's it's a short-lived thing.
23:18
SPEAKER_03: Usually, I mean, all my kids, they know all those songs.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, like they'll come into me and they'll sort like who who was singing one of my boys was singing something the other day.
23:27
SPEAKER_03: Oh we were my my in-laws had um their 52nd wedding anniversary on July 4th.
23:34
SPEAKER_06: That's a present.
23:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:35
SPEAKER_03: So we we had a barbecue and the boys were the one of the very few times my 14-year-old and my twelve-year-old were getting along, they were uh riding a four-wheeler together.
23:47
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
23:48
SPEAKER_03: And they were just riding around like my in-law's house just riding around.
23:54
SPEAKER_03: But every time they would pass us, they'd be singing a song.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: So and both of them singing the same song.
24:01
SPEAKER_03: So they pass us, and you hear, You are so beautiful to me.
24:09
SPEAKER_03: Joe Cock Can't you see Where did that come from?
24:13
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: I don't know where they're hearing all this stuff.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: And I always I dog on the the gener this generation because it's such a singles-driven generation.
24:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, we're talking about how we love albums and liner notes and how albums should be heard you know from the beginning to the end.
24:28
SPEAKER_03: They don't know about that.
24:29
SPEAKER_03: They don't know about that.
24:30
SPEAKER_03: But they know a lot more music because they listen to their their music, which is newer, yeah.
24:38
SPEAKER_03: But they also listen to just songs that they like.
24:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:41
SPEAKER_03: Which happen to be Beatles songs, which happen to be journey songs.
24:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:45
SPEAKER_03: You know, if they're exposed to it, that's the music, that's their music.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: Right.
24:49
SPEAKER_03: So I can't really fault them, you know, for they're not they're not married to a genre.
24:55
SPEAKER_07: They're just they're just married to whatever trips they're they're fancy.
24:59
SPEAKER_07: Right.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: And that's a that's a a kind of a a good place to be, I think.
25:04
SPEAKER_07: It is, in a way.
25:05
SPEAKER_07: I mean, you you get exposed a lot more, but you're not you're not married to anything, and you therefore you're you're you know, you you have, you know, musical ADHD.
25:15
SPEAKER_07: Right.
25:15
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's just a good song.
25:17
SPEAKER_07: Oh, that's a good song too.
25:18
SPEAKER_07: Oh, that's a good song too, you know.
25:19
SPEAKER_03: So um so uh I just thought it was kind of interesting how music works like that.
25:28
SPEAKER_03: You know, if you if you one of your songs comes back and is viral, if you will.
25:35
SPEAKER_07: Well, look at uh what Wainsworld did for Bohemian Rap Systems.
25:39
SPEAKER_07: Absolutely.
25:39
SPEAKER_07: I mean that made that song you know that song wasn't well received when it first came out.
25:45
SPEAKER_07: No, because it was it was six minutes long.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: Right.
25:48
SPEAKER_07: You know, it's not it's not like you could play it on the radio.
25:50
SPEAKER_03: Right.
25:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:52
SPEAKER_07: So I mean, so when you know they did it in Wainsworld, I mean it just made that song just explode and it's still popular.
25:58
SPEAKER_03: And Queen is as popular today because of that song.
26:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:03
SPEAKER_03: And because of Wainsworld.
26:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: I I I put money on that, you know, because that carried them through.
26:09
SPEAKER_07: And the fact that Mike Myers was in the Queen, that Queen full circle.
26:14
SPEAKER_07: So funny.
26:15
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
26:15
SPEAKER_07: Um It's not like anybody's gonna be headbanging to this song.
26:20
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I just died laughing, man.
26:22
SPEAKER_07: It was so good.
26:23
SPEAKER_03: Um so you mentioned Journey uh and their hit Don't Stop Believin, which which um ended the Sopranos, this the uh whole series, and it was kind of a weird ending, and pe a lot of people were upset, but the song, I mean, like you said, went went back to like number one on the charts or something like that.
26:41
SPEAKER_03: Um their new album, Freedom, comes out this Friday.
26:47
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:48
SPEAKER_08: That's right.
26:48
SPEAKER_03: Um and we've we've played uh a few songs from it and have criticized it, and I think we do that all the time.
26:57
SPEAKER_03: We're what are the what were those guys those guys called on the Muppets?
27:00
SPEAKER_03: Statler and Waldorf.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: Statler and Waldorf, yeah.
27:02
SPEAKER_03: I always feel like those guys when I when I trash something.
27:05
SPEAKER_07: I'm not you know what?
27:06
SPEAKER_07: They're my favorite part of the I know, right?
27:09
SPEAKER_07: Anytime they're on man, it's hilarious.
27:11
SPEAKER_07: Right.
27:12
SPEAKER_03: So I always feel like them when we talk about something that we we're we don't like.
27:16
SPEAKER_03: And it's not that I don't like the new stuff that we've heard from Journey, um, but it just sounds discombobulated.
27:26
SPEAKER_07: Well it sounds forced.
27:28
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, i i it sounds like it's like we gotta run a new song, we gotta we're gonna make it an album, we gotta run a song, so let's put just any old crap on the song.
27:34
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's what it is.
27:36
SPEAKER_03: And the fact that the album is called Freedom.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh You're free to make crap.
27:42
SPEAKER_03: Well, the new single, I have the new single ready to go.
27:45
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
27:45
SPEAKER_03: Um actually, I'm not I'm not gonna listen to the whole thing, obviously, but um this seems like pandering.
27:53
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I could be probably but I could be wrong.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: Um the song is called United We Stand.
28:01
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: Um I can see the look on your face.
29:36
SPEAKER_07: I definitely don't like those background vocals.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: I know.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: They suck.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: I don't like the mix.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: It's terrible.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: I really don't like it.
29:43
SPEAKER_08: It sounds like it sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher.
29:47
SPEAKER_03: And it really bothers me because they're one of my favorite bands.
29:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:50
SPEAKER_03: Um and apparently Freedom was, you know, remember Raised on Radio like in 1986?
29:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:57
SPEAKER_03: Their manager who recently passed, Herbie Herbert, um, wanted to call that album Freedom.
30:03
SPEAKER_03: And Steve Perry was like, I'm not having that.
30:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
30:05
SPEAKER_03: So they ended up calling it Raised on Radio.
30:07
SPEAKER_03: Got it.
30:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, but this is United We Stand is about because they had a whole lawsuit thing with the with the rhythm section.
30:13
SPEAKER_03: Ross Valerie and Steve Smith.
30:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:15
SPEAKER_03: Remember they fired them?
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
30:17
SPEAKER_03: And then because they thought that they were trying to to get more of a stake in the band and blah, blah, blah, and there's all these lawsuits and accountants and managers and blah blah blah.
30:24
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, it was ugly there for a while.
30:26
SPEAKER_03: So this has nothing to do with like the unite un unity of the country or anything.
30:30
SPEAKER_04: No, this sounds like it's more personal.
30:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
30:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
30:33
SPEAKER_04: Um But to me, this song is very forgettable.
30:39
SPEAKER_07: There's no melody.
30:40
SPEAKER_07: Actually, I actually like it better than the ones that we listened to before.
30:44
SPEAKER_03: I agree with that.
30:45
SPEAKER_07: But except for one.
30:48
SPEAKER_07: There's one, there's one but the but the it's just those background vocals, because I can't understand.
30:53
SPEAKER_07: If I didn't know what was going on, I wouldn't be able to understand what they're saying.
30:57
SPEAKER_07: Right.
30:57
SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
30:58
SPEAKER_07: If I was just if I wasn't listening on headphones, I wouldn't have any clue.
31:02
SPEAKER_07: I it sounds just like there's an organ or a synthesizer going on.
31:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and that's not that's not typical journey.
31:08
SPEAKER_07: No, I mean they always had really great backing vocals.
31:10
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
31:11
SPEAKER_07: Just, you know, big bombastic bah, you know?
31:14
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
31:14
SPEAKER_07: But this is not this is not that.
31:16
SPEAKER_07: But I mean, it's not it's not the journey we grew up on.
31:19
SPEAKER_03: And and this Neil Sean usually has a lot more melodic solos.
31:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: I I hate to be like that, but and I you know the funny thing is is I'll probably still get it.
31:37
SPEAKER_07: I'm sure you will.
31:39
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
31:40
SPEAKER_07: Um but but I still like the lead singer because he Oh Arnell Panin is awesome.
31:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he's just he's so great, man.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
31:51
SPEAKER_07: And he's just got he's just got a really great vocal quality that is reminiscent of uh Steve Perry.
31:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:58
SPEAKER_07: You know, so it you know, so at least the vocal is there that you can be like, I don't know.
32:01
SPEAKER_03: And I just I just have so much respect for that guy anyway, because to step into those shoes.
32:05
SPEAKER_07: Just came out of nowhere.
32:06
SPEAKER_07: I mean, they found him on YouTube, you know, doing you know, doing cover songs, and now he's like he's in the band.
32:12
SPEAKER_07: It's like, I mean, that's the you know kid from the Philippines is now the lead singer of one of the biggest bands in the world.
32:17
SPEAKER_03: Right.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: And he's he's even said that if Steve Perry ever wanted to come back, he will back out.
32:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm sure he would.
32:23
SPEAKER_07: He's a he's he just seems like that kind of guy.
32:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's a huge Steve Perry fan and a huge journey fan.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:29
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, he's kind of uh living his dream right now.
32:33
SPEAKER_03: I just I I got a lot of respect for for Arnell Pinada.
32:35
SPEAKER_07: Oh, I do, I absolutely.
32:36
SPEAKER_07: I can never think of the guy's name, but Arnell.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: Arnell Arnell Pinada.
32:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:41
SPEAKER_03: Um so and then on to this, these are I just I had all these sound clips I wanted to play.
32:48
SPEAKER_03: So um this was a song that Kiss hated um when they first when they released it, or at least Gene Simmons did.
32:58
SPEAKER_03: Um they did not like the song.
32:59
SPEAKER_03: Can you think of what it is?
33:03
SPEAKER_03: Any one of them.
33:05
SPEAKER_03: No, I think Kiss likes a lot of their songs.
33:07
SPEAKER_07: Well, I'm sure they do.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
33:09
SPEAKER_07: Kiss Kiss is the to me is they're like ACDC.
33:15
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
33:16
SPEAKER_07: You know, you're gonna you're gonna get what you get.
33:18
SPEAKER_07: Right.
33:19
SPEAKER_07: You know what you're gonna get when you listen to a KISS song.
33:21
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
33:21
SPEAKER_07: You know what you're gonna get when you listen to an A C D song.
33:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, I I think to a certain extent, you're right.
33:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh ACDC is more uh is more like that, I think of because I mean and I love well no, I like ACDC.
33:34
SPEAKER_03: I never loved AC DC.
33:35
SPEAKER_07: No, I never did, but I like I like them a lot.
33:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, me too.
33:38
SPEAKER_07: Uh but you put on Because when you put on an A C D C record, you know somebody's gonna be like, yeah.
33:42
SPEAKER_07: To a fault.
33:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean it's yeah.
33:45
SPEAKER_03: KISS at least tried to do other things.
33:47
SPEAKER_07: Well, they did the they did like Beth and they did, you know They did like uh they used hard luck woman, you know, outside writers for for things.
33:54
SPEAKER_03: And I mean they tried to stay with the times, and this is one of those times that they tried to stay with the times.
34:00
SPEAKER_03: Um it was Gene Simmons, actually.
34:02
SPEAKER_03: Gene Simmons said he hates playing the song to this day.
34:06
SPEAKER_03: Um stadium's full of people jump up and down like biblical locusts.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: They go nuts with tattoos and grills on, they're all jumping up and down, and I'm going, do do do do kill me now.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: That's a quote.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: That's a quote from Gene Simmons.
34:20
SPEAKER_03: This is from an article on classicrock.com or ultimate classicrock.com.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: Um, but someone has redone it.
34:27
SPEAKER_03: So the song was a disco song.
34:30
SPEAKER_07: Was it I Was Made for Loving You.
34:34
SPEAKER_07: Okay, yeah.
34:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was made for Loving You.
34:36
SPEAKER_07: No, I think I did know that they that they hated that song.
34:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, at least Gene Simmons.
34:39
SPEAKER_07: Early Gene Simmons, yeah.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: So the electronic uh let's see, a collaboration, let's see.
34:45
SPEAKER_03: Let me read this.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: The success of the new version of I Was Made for Loving You follows a recent trend of classic tracks getting reworked for modern dance audiences.
34:54
SPEAKER_03: Last year, Cold Heart, a collaboration of Elton John, pop star Dua Lipa, and Australian electronic trio Now or Pa Now, became a huge hit.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: The tune mashed up John's previous song Rocket Man Sacrifice Wears the Shira and Kiss the Bride.
35:12
SPEAKER_03: So this is the new reworking of I Was Made for Loving You.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: I gotta say, already, okay, this is what this song was meant for.
35:55
SPEAKER_07: I'm honestly gonna I'm gonna say this right now.
35:58
SPEAKER_07: I actually like this better.
36:04
SPEAKER_03: It actually features Nile Rogers on guitar.
36:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh Nile Rogers from Cheek.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh and the house gospel choir.
36:20
SPEAKER_03: There's really not much to it though, is there?
36:22
SPEAKER_07: It's not really forest.
36:25
SPEAKER_07: I honestly like it better than kids.
36:27
SPEAKER_07: Well, I think I think this is what it was supposed to be, right?
36:32
SPEAKER_07: You said, yeah.
36:35
SPEAKER_03: I think Gene Simmons had a point that they were a rock band and they were trying to fit in to the trend that is disco.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: And I I get his point.
36:51
SPEAKER_03: I like this stuff because the melody is great.
36:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the melody is really good.
36:54
SPEAKER_03: And it always has always has been.
36:55
SPEAKER_03: It's very catchy.
36:56
SPEAKER_03: You can't help but stick along.
36:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:58
SPEAKER_03: And but this this version seems like it works better.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: It does.
37:03
SPEAKER_07: I actually like this version way better in kisses.
37:07
SPEAKER_03: But you notice there's no verse.
37:08
SPEAKER_03: No.
37:09
SPEAKER_03: It's just a chord.
37:10
SPEAKER_07: And it's okay.
37:10
SPEAKER_07: I mean, I really don't I really don't mind it.
37:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:13
SPEAKER_07: It's like it's like that album that Chicago did after Terry Kath died.
37:17
SPEAKER_07: Um, with Street Fighting Man and all that stuff.
37:20
SPEAKER_07: That was a very disco album.
37:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:22
SPEAKER_07: You know, but that's what was going on at the time.
37:24
SPEAKER_07: And you know, and they just lost Terry Kath.
37:26
SPEAKER_07: So I mean you lost that uh That edge.
37:28
SPEAKER_07: That edge yeah, that rock and roll edge that Terry Terry brought to the band.
37:32
SPEAKER_07: So I mean that's what that's what I'm not you know when uh Gene Simmons, you know, is like, you know, this is a disco song, I'm like, yeah, I get it, man.
37:40
SPEAKER_07: But you know, Kiss has been around since the late 60s.
37:43
SPEAKER_07: Right.
37:43
SPEAKER_07: So I mean, you know, yeah, I I I I understand that they're gonna, you know, they're not gonna buck the trend.
37:48
SPEAKER_07: They're gonna kinda they're gonna kind of, you know, you know, dip their toe in the water at some point.
37:55
SPEAKER_03: So uh I just looked it up.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: It is.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: It's Chicago Colon, the Terry Kath experience.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: That's the name of the documentary.
38:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna watch that.
38:04
SPEAKER_03: So uh yeah, and you uh will not regret it.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: That guy was He was amazing, dude.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: He was amazing.
38:10
SPEAKER_03: And uh if you don't know the story, um Terry Kath, uh the guitar player for Chicago who we're talking about, he was I think he was was he goofing around?
38:21
SPEAKER_03: Actually, it's they mention it in the in the documentary, obviously.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: He was either goofing around or when he when he died, cleaning his gun.
38:28
SPEAKER_07: No, uh he was drunk, drunk and or high.
38:32
SPEAKER_07: Cleaning one of his because he was a gun enthusiast.
38:34
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
38:34
SPEAKER_07: Clean one of his guns.
38:35
SPEAKER_07: He didn't he d but he didn't, you know, one of the cardinal rules of you know gun safety is make sure the chamber is empty.
38:42
SPEAKER_07: Right.
38:42
SPEAKER_07: And I think I think he had taken the magazine out, yeah, but he didn't enter but he didn't check the chamber.
38:49
SPEAKER_07: Right.
38:49
SPEAKER_07: Sometimes you can take a magazine out and there's a round chambered in the in the you know, in the you know, one in the pipe.
38:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:57
SPEAKER_07: And if you don't realize it.
38:59
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:59
SPEAKER_03: And I think as a joke, didn't he?
39:02
SPEAKER_07: I don't I don't know the whole story of what happened exactly, but uh, you know, it went off and he died.
39:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:08
SPEAKER_07: So I mean it was completely accidental, but again he was drunk and or high at the time.
39:14
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
39:14
SPEAKER_07: Shouldn't be cleaning guns or you know, being anywhere guns, you know.
39:19
SPEAKER_07: Speaking as a former Marine.
39:21
SPEAKER_03: Right.
39:21
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
39:22
SPEAKER_07: You can't you know you know, guns of the bread and butter.
39:25
SPEAKER_07: You know, if you're drunk and or high, it's not a good combination.
39:30
SPEAKER_07: Right.
39:30
SPEAKER_07: So yeah, but it was tragic.
39:32
SPEAKER_03: So and and and the other cool thing about that uh documentary is he uh he had this um amazing telecaster uh that was lost for a long time.
39:42
SPEAKER_03: And his daughter found it.
39:43
SPEAKER_03: Oh really?
39:43
SPEAKER_03: So it's pretty cool.
39:44
SPEAKER_03: You go watch that at the end.
39:47
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so um that's all I have.
39:48
SPEAKER_03: Do we have anything else?
39:49
SPEAKER_03: Because we're gonna oh we gotta do the uh We gotta do with the alphabet, dude.
39:52
SPEAKER_07: We gotta do the alphabet.
39:53
SPEAKER_07: We're like over halfway through.
39:55
SPEAKER_07: Where is Where's yours?
39:58
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
39:59
SPEAKER_05: Where is it?
40:00
SPEAKER_05: Did you lose it?
40:01
SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
40:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
40:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh no.
40:04
SPEAKER_05: Oh no.
40:05
SPEAKER_05: Look what I found.
40:06
SPEAKER_05: You found it was over.
40:11
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
40:12
SPEAKER_04: Just making sure I'm kind of freaking out there for a second.
40:14
SPEAKER_04: Oh, dude, you gotta play the music, man.
40:16
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
40:16
SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
40:17
SPEAKER_07: You gotta hit the music.
40:18
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
40:19
SPEAKER_05: There we go.
40:20
SPEAKER_07: It's not complete until we have the music.
40:21
SPEAKER_07: What are we gonna do when we're done with this book?
40:23
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
40:23
SPEAKER_07: We'll find another one?
40:24
SPEAKER_07: I guess so.
40:25
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
40:25
SPEAKER_07: They they do have others ones.
40:26
SPEAKER_07: They have a Beatles one and they have uh, you know, uh R I think RB Legends one or Legends.
40:32
SPEAKER_07: R the alphabet book?
40:33
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
40:34
SPEAKER_07: Blues Legends, I think.
40:35
SPEAKER_07: Ooh, I like that one.
40:36
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I'll get those for you.
40:37
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so what the books we're talking about, um, I have the Guitar Legends Alphabet.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: Doug has the Drum Legends Alphabet.
40:44
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
40:45
SPEAKER_03: Both of them by Beck Feiner.
40:47
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
40:48
SPEAKER_03: Um and the letter of the day is M.
40:52
SPEAKER_03: And this happens to be my favorite letter in this book.
40:55
SPEAKER_03: Can you guess who it is?
40:58
SPEAKER_06: What's that?
40:59
SPEAKER_03: This happens to be my favorite letter in this book.
41:03
SPEAKER_06: M is?
41:03
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: My favorite letter in this book is M.
41:07
SPEAKER_03: Why?
41:09
SPEAKER_03: Give me a hand.
41:12
SPEAKER_07: Guitar doesn't have M.
41:14
SPEAKER_03: Who's my favorite guitar player?
41:17
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah.
41:19
SPEAKER_07: You got it, you got it, you got it.
41:20
SPEAKER_07: I know it's on the tip of your tongue.
41:22
SPEAKER_07: Good Lord! Dire straight.
41:23
SPEAKER_07: Yes, Mark Knofflin.
41:24
SPEAKER_07: Mark Knofflin! Freaking it.
41:26
SPEAKER_07: Why can't I get that guy's name?
41:28
SPEAKER_03: Uh it's not an easy one to remember.
41:30
SPEAKER_07: Uh Mark.
41:31
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
41:32
SPEAKER_03: It's in the Bible.
41:34
SPEAKER_07: Well, that's true.
41:35
SPEAKER_07: Mark.
41:36
SPEAKER_07: It's one syllable.
41:37
SPEAKER_07: How hard is that to be freaking?
41:40
SPEAKER_07: My name is Mark.
41:41
SPEAKER_07: Is it Steve?
41:42
SPEAKER_07: No, Mark.
41:44
SPEAKER_07: My name is Mark.
41:46
SPEAKER_07: Why are you so stupid, Doug?
41:49
SPEAKER_07: See your name.
41:50
SPEAKER_07: One syllable.
41:51
SPEAKER_07: Mark, one syllable.
41:53
SPEAKER_07: We got Sympatico, brother.
41:57
SPEAKER_03: Got a idiot.
41:58
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
41:59
SPEAKER_03: M is from Mark Knoffler.
42:02
SPEAKER_03: As frontman for UK Mega Star's Diary Straits, Mark Fruder Knoffler.
42:07
SPEAKER_03: There's one I didn't know.
42:09
SPEAKER_03: Finger picked his way to selling over 30 million copies of the 1985 album Brothers in Arms.
42:14
SPEAKER_03: Just that album.
42:15
SPEAKER_03: 30 million copies.
42:16
SPEAKER_07: That's awesome, man.
42:17
SPEAKER_03: I love that album.
42:18
SPEAKER_03: Using his 61 Fender Stratocaster, he wowed audiences with a tasty blend of rhythm and lead on classic tracks like 1978's Sultans of Swing.
42:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a great one.
42:27
SPEAKER_03: And of course, in the 80s, he went to all Gibson Les Paul and did the whole money for nothing.
42:33
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
42:33
SPEAKER_07: Which uh was the fact that he doesn't use a pick always amazed me.
42:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
42:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: Just it just.
42:39
SPEAKER_03: Well he comes from a folk music background.
42:40
SPEAKER_03: He used to play folk clubs and pubs and stuff like that.
42:43
SPEAKER_03: And and a lot of that folk music is like a Travis picking.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: Right.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: You know.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: And so he was just used to used to playing that.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of the way I feel most comfortable playing as well.
42:52
SPEAKER_03: And I don't know if it was modeled after him or James Taylor.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: Because I all also.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so and I so I play a lot with my fingers.
42:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:00
SPEAKER_03: I have a harder time with a pick, believe it or not.
43:02
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, I get that.
43:03
SPEAKER_07: But uh pick is good for you know if you're doing you know power chords and such and things, but if you want to do something intricate, you can't really do it with a pick as well.
43:11
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
43:11
SPEAKER_03: And Mark Knoffler is my favorite guitar player.
43:14
SPEAKER_03: He is for many, many reasons.
43:16
SPEAKER_07: Mark! I'm gonna remember that someday.
43:20
SPEAKER_07: Mark! Alright.
43:23
SPEAKER_07: I always want to say Clapton for some reason, but I know that's not right.
43:26
SPEAKER_07: Well, there's because the minute you say that, I always say Clapton.
43:29
SPEAKER_07: Then I go, no, it's not Clapton.
43:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
43:33
SPEAKER_07: It's Mark.
43:37
SPEAKER_03: How about the uh drum legend out of it?
43:39
SPEAKER_03: Letter A.
43:40
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, I forgot.
43:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:42
SPEAKER_07: Ah M is for Keith Moon.
43:45
SPEAKER_07: Mooney.
43:46
SPEAKER_07: Mooney.
43:47
SPEAKER_07: Uh the Who's Chaotic Keith Moon was the original rock star.
43:52
SPEAKER_07: I don't know about original, but he was pretty close.
43:55
SPEAKER_07: His hyper style using heavy double kick pedals and rolling tomfills was equal parts.
44:00
SPEAKER_07: Rock and jazz.
44:01
SPEAKER_07: He inspired so many great drummers who came after him, including Animal from the Muppets.
44:06
SPEAKER_07: And there's a nice picture of uh Keith and Animal.
44:12
SPEAKER_03: So um swing.
44:16
SPEAKER_03: Just gotta throw it in there a little bit.
44:19
SPEAKER_04: With a salt and swing.
44:24
SPEAKER_03: So we can put would you put Mark Knoffler and Keith Moon together?
44:27
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
44:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah?
44:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:31
SPEAKER_03: Did I get it in the right spot?
44:33
SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
44:35
SPEAKER_03: Nope.
44:35
SPEAKER_03: I was looking for the talk about the drummer, yeah.
44:41
SPEAKER_03: Hold on, I want to find the the outgoing guitar solo.
44:45
SPEAKER_03: There we go.
44:52
SPEAKER_03: All finger picked.
44:53
SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
45:11
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that was my bad.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, you want to have it?
45:28
SPEAKER_03: I could listen to Martin Offler all night.
45:30
SPEAKER_03: Of course you got this.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: Ah yeah.
45:34
SPEAKER_03: Let me just get to the best part of this.
45:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can see Keith Moon playing this right here.
45:42
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: There's an interesting story behind this little piece as well.
45:56
SPEAKER_03: That sound, that guitar sound.
45:58
SPEAKER_03: Was an accident.
45:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh really?
46:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:02
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I wish I could I don't because I don't want to talk out of school.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: I I I have to.
46:08
SPEAKER_03: There's like a video on YouTube, I think, that told how they got the guitar sound, and it was it was like the mic was pointed in the wrong place, like in the wrong direction.
46:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:18
SPEAKER_03: And or something like that, and he just started playing.
46:22
SPEAKER_03: I was like, oh my word, let's record that.
46:24
SPEAKER_03: You know, it was he kind of invented the sound by accident.
46:27
SPEAKER_03: Well, there we go.
46:28
SPEAKER_07: Well, I mean, all the all those great things were found by accident.
46:31
SPEAKER_07: Like the when the Beatles discovered feedback.
46:33
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
46:34
SPEAKER_07: You know.
46:34
SPEAKER_03: I feel fine.
46:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I feel fine.
46:37
SPEAKER_07: They, you know, uh John or George had leaned the m you know guitar up against the amp and it started the E-string started feeding back.
46:44
SPEAKER_03: Right.
46:47
SPEAKER_03: I'll show you exactly what what we're talking about here.
46:49
SPEAKER_03: Because, you know, we have that luxury now where I have it all right.
46:54
SPEAKER_03: I just have to kinda uh dial it up here.
46:58
SPEAKER_03: And it is actually do I have that one in here?
47:04
SPEAKER_04: I mean not have that one in here.
47:06
SPEAKER_04: That's a good question.
47:07
SPEAKER_04: Dude.
47:07
SPEAKER_07: What album is it on Mark?
47:10
SPEAKER_07: What album is it on?
47:12
SPEAKER_07: I feel fine.
47:13
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
47:14
SPEAKER_07: It's on uh god.
47:17
SPEAKER_07: I can't even remember Mark, so you want me to remember on the Beatles album?
47:22
SPEAKER_07: I mean I've got it.
47:25
SPEAKER_07: It's before Rubber's hole.
47:28
SPEAKER_03: I you know, I have it on the one album.
47:30
SPEAKER_07: Well yeah, I'm sure it's on that one, yeah.
47:31
SPEAKER_04: I have I have that, yeah.
47:32
SPEAKER_03: So this is this is the first feedback.
47:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
47:44
SPEAKER_07: And Jimi Hendrix was born.
47:47
SPEAKER_03: So true.
47:48
SPEAKER_03: That's so true.
47:51
SPEAKER_03: See, that's the thing.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: Mark Knoffler, the Beatles, I could listen to them all day long.
47:56
SPEAKER_03: How can you not, man?
47:59
SPEAKER_03: And the fact that John Lennon, you know, used to trash his old old Beatles songs and stuff like that.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: So that was it wasn't they weren't any good and blah blah blah.
48:07
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but I think that was just his way of coping.
48:09
SPEAKER_07: I know.
48:09
SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
48:10
SPEAKER_07: I think he actually enjoyed.
48:12
SPEAKER_07: How can you not?
48:13
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
48:14
SPEAKER_07: I mean that I mean I I mean at a point, I think it was just it was they were so oversaturated.
48:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
48:21
SPEAKER_07: I mean, I mean, how many, you know, how did they at one point they had seven songs on the billboard top ten?
48:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:27
unknown: Yeah.
48:28
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
48:28
SPEAKER_07: How do you I I mean I get it.
48:30
SPEAKER_07: And Beatlemania, I mean, they're playing the same song over and over and over again, and they can't even hear.
48:36
SPEAKER_03: This um you know podcast is the poster child for ADD because we just talked about like six different things in the past five minutes.
48:44
SPEAKER_03: That's why we're good.
48:46
SPEAKER_03: It's like, who doesn't want to sponsor this?
48:48
SPEAKER_03: Hold on a second.
48:49
SPEAKER_03: You were talking about Terry Kath, and then you were talking about uh Mark Knoffler.
48:54
SPEAKER_03: Mark.
48:55
SPEAKER_03: Mark! You went to the Beatles?
48:58
SPEAKER_03: What make up your mind.
49:00
SPEAKER_07: Don't forget, we talked about Keith Moon in there.
49:01
SPEAKER_07: So, you know.
49:03
SPEAKER_07: We did.
49:04
SPEAKER_07: Um Jimi Hendrix?
49:05
SPEAKER_07: You know, I mean, we covered it all, baby.
49:07
SPEAKER_07: Because if you want a musical commentary podcast, we just commentated on all the music.
49:17
SPEAKER_03: We're just playing kids.
49:18
SPEAKER_03: And in a second, we're gonna climb the wall of tunes.
49:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're gonna get an artist, and we'll probably end up talking about all of the other artists related to that artist.
49:27
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
49:27
SPEAKER_07: That's what we do, man.
49:29
SPEAKER_07: Right.
49:29
SPEAKER_07: That's why we pay us the big bucks here.
49:32
SPEAKER_07: Right.
49:32
SPEAKER_07: And as soon as we get paid, it'll be amazing.
49:37
SPEAKER_07: Just waiting on that big sponsorship.
49:38
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49:40
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49:45
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49:49
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49:50
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49:56
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51:25
SPEAKER_03: It's time to climb the Wall of Tunes once again.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: Seems like so long ago.
51:30
SPEAKER_05: I know.
51:31
SPEAKER_05: It's like two weeks.
51:32
SPEAKER_05: It's so weird.
51:33
SPEAKER_07: Such an old shtick.
51:35
SPEAKER_07: It's our bread and butter, baby.
51:38
SPEAKER_07: This is the reason everybody tunes in.
51:40
SPEAKER_07: They fast forward through the recipe, then they're just waiting for the wall.
51:43
SPEAKER_07: What are they gonna talk about this week?
51:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm looking at the wall of tunes.
51:45
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to stand up.
51:47
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
51:47
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm gonna go over here.
51:48
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna look over here and look that way.
51:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna stand up.
51:51
SPEAKER_04: Whatever is gonna close my eyes this time.
51:54
SPEAKER_04: Really, I am.
51:56
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
51:57
SPEAKER_07: I believe you.
52:00
SPEAKER_01: Do you?
52:01
SPEAKER_07: Sure.
52:02
SPEAKER_07: Why not?
52:12
SPEAKER_06: Mark.
52:16
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
52:17
SPEAKER_04: Are you ready?
52:17
SPEAKER_04: I'm ready.
52:18
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
52:22
SPEAKER_04: Oh yes.
52:22
SPEAKER_04: Uh let the guessing begin.
52:24
SPEAKER_04: Thank you very much.
52:26
SPEAKER_07: Ah, is it a solo or is it a solo?
52:29
SPEAKER_07: Solo artist.
52:33
SPEAKER_07: No.
52:34
SPEAKER_07: Good question, though.
52:35
SPEAKER_07: Well, you know, I've got to give it a shot.
52:37
SPEAKER_07: Uh is it a man or woman?
52:39
SPEAKER_07: Woman! Oh, a woman.
52:41
SPEAKER_07: Alright.
52:42
SPEAKER_07: Is it Pat Benatar?
52:44
SPEAKER_07: No.
52:44
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
52:45
SPEAKER_07: That'll give it a shot.
52:48
SPEAKER_07: What genre?
52:50
SPEAKER_03: Um.
52:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to say pop.
52:59
unknown: Pop.
53:00
SPEAKER_03: But.
53:01
SPEAKER_03: It's a jewel.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: There's another genre.
53:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to say because that will completely give it away.
53:07
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
53:08
SPEAKER_03: So it started in one genre.
53:11
SPEAKER_03: Actually, well it's just a weird complicated thing.
53:14
SPEAKER_07: There's a Bonnie Ray.
53:15
SPEAKER_03: No.
53:16
SPEAKER_03: It's a complicated thing, and I'll explain it once you once you guess it.
53:19
SPEAKER_03: But Sarah McLaughlin?
53:21
SPEAKER_03: She ended up being a pop star.
53:26
SPEAKER_07: She ended up being a pop star?
53:29
SPEAKER_07: No.
53:30
SPEAKER_07: No.
53:30
SPEAKER_07: Oh.
53:30
SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
53:32
SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure what that was.
53:37
SPEAKER_07: Let's see.
53:38
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so what pie her height of popularity?
53:41
SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm gonna say her height of popularity was probably the late 80s, early 90s.
53:47
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
53:47
SPEAKER_03: Or maybe maybe late 80s to mid-90s.
53:51
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
53:52
SPEAKER_07: Um Linda Ronsdack?
53:57
SPEAKER_07: Nope.
53:58
SPEAKER_07: Emmy Lou Harris.
53:59
SPEAKER_07: Nope.
54:00
SPEAKER_07: I'm just naming random female singers.
54:04
SPEAKER_07: Did she play an instrument?
54:06
SPEAKER_04: Um, she's not known for it, but she plays guitar.
54:09
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
54:10
SPEAKER_04: Cheryl Crow.
54:11
SPEAKER_04: Nope.
54:16
SPEAKER_07: Did she make a sex tape with Tommy Lee?
54:19
SPEAKER_07: No.
54:20
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
54:20
SPEAKER_07: Good for her.
54:21
SPEAKER_03: When you find out who this is.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: That question is gonna be really funny.
54:26
SPEAKER_03: Was it Amy Grant?
54:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah!
54:31
SPEAKER_05: It's funny that you knew that.
54:33
SPEAKER_05: That's the way she's not like there it is.
54:37
SPEAKER_03: So I have she made a sex tape with uh Tommy Lee, I would be very disappointed in her.
54:43
SPEAKER_03: But it's so funny that you knew exactly what I was talking about when it was like the polar opposite of that, right?
54:49
SPEAKER_03: Squeaky clean image.
54:50
SPEAKER_07: Um I I did watch that uh documentary, Jesus Music.
54:55
SPEAKER_07: Did you?
54:56
SPEAKER_07: Because I was I'm I was going to.
54:57
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
54:58
SPEAKER_07: It's really, really good.
54:59
SPEAKER_03: Is it?
54:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:59
SPEAKER_03: And Michael Sweet is in it, right?
55:01
SPEAKER_07: He is, but he's only in it for like five minutes or five or ten minutes.
55:04
SPEAKER_07: He's not in it very long.
55:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
55:06
SPEAKER_07: But they do they do give everybody gives striper great props for being, you know, Christian metal.
55:12
SPEAKER_07: Right.
55:12
SPEAKER_07: Especially in that time.
55:13
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
55:14
SPEAKER_07: You know, and then uh they move on to like, you know, newer stuff.
55:17
SPEAKER_07: And the newer stuff is kind of milk toast.
55:19
SPEAKER_03: It is milk toast, but and you know, every once in a while, and and I do like some of that stuff.
55:24
SPEAKER_03: Some of the the new the new Christian Christian music that's you know on most Christian radio.
55:29
SPEAKER_07: But they talk ostensibly to Amy Grant throughout the whole thing.
55:34
SPEAKER_03: Really?
55:34
SPEAKER_03: Which is really cool.
55:35
SPEAKER_03: So um my my big complaint with current Christian music is it all sounds the same.
55:39
SPEAKER_07: Well, that's I think that's just music in general.
55:41
SPEAKER_07: Well, that's true.
55:42
SPEAKER_03: You know, but I mean I can't tell one one popular Christian song from another, usually, because they Well, they're all basically written by the same conglomerate.
55:49
SPEAKER_07: They're built the same way.
55:51
SPEAKER_07: That hillside uh hill song.
55:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
55:53
SPEAKER_07: And they're they're sort of a cultish thing anyway, but yeah, that's a whole other story.
55:59
SPEAKER_07: Right.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: So well, this is I and I've always been a big fan of of Amy Grant.
56:03
SPEAKER_03: Yes, you are.
56:04
SPEAKER_03: She she did, and I think you would agree, she was in Christian music.
56:09
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
56:09
SPEAKER_03: But it's almost pop music, it's just its own separate thing because she was able to cross over very easily.
56:16
SPEAKER_03: Well, she crossed over to mainstream.
56:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:18
SPEAKER_03: She didn't cross over to pop music because she was making pop music, but it's it was making Christian pop music.
56:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, here's that's the thing.
56:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:26
SPEAKER_03: It's Christian music has its own uh it's it's its own universe.
56:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:33
SPEAKER_03: Like you could be making pop music, but it's Christian.
56:36
SPEAKER_03: You could be making metal music like Sw Striper, but it's Christian.
56:39
SPEAKER_03: Although Striper was never on Christian radio, they were on rock radio.
56:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
56:43
SPEAKER_03: You know, um, but um she was making pop music, but it was on the Christian charts.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: And then she crossed over to the mainstream pop charts with that uh well, hold on, I got it right uh uh this one.
56:58
unknown: Right here.
56:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, I was gonna say it's this one.
57:01
SPEAKER_03: Right?
57:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:02
SPEAKER_03: Baby baby, yep.
57:03
SPEAKER_03: Which was recently remade.
57:05
SPEAKER_03: Uh she had a hand in the remake.
57:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
57:07
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
57:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, she had a big hit with this.
57:10
SPEAKER_03: She had a hit with every heartbeat.
57:12
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
57:13
SPEAKER_07: Um I mean, this is this is like the epitome of pop.
57:17
SPEAKER_07: Right.
57:17
SPEAKER_07: You know, these two songs.
57:18
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
57:19
SPEAKER_07: And then that's what love is for.
57:22
SPEAKER_07: She had a lot of hits.
57:23
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, I remember this one.
57:24
SPEAKER_07: Um But my favorite Amy Grant song of all time is El Shaddai.
57:28
SPEAKER_07: Oh.
57:29
SPEAKER_07: That to me, I mean, her voice is just, you know, and I don't mean that to be I don't mean this as hyperbole, but her voice is so angelic in that song.
57:41
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
57:42
SPEAKER_07: I just love it.
57:43
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, I don't have El Shaddai on here.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: You would think that it would be on her greatest hits.
57:49
SPEAKER_07: I have some I have some uh sad that El Shaddai is now because it is probably one of her greatest songs ever.
57:57
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's strange.
57:59
SPEAKER_07: Uh one two That saddens me in a way.
58:03
SPEAKER_03: Um then there's this one.
58:06
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: Good for me.
58:08
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
58:08
SPEAKER_03: And then I will remember you, which was uh No, it's not the series.
58:13
SPEAKER_07: I don't know, I don't know why, but every time I hear this music, I can think it's like neon colors.
58:17
SPEAKER_07: I know it's true.
58:18
SPEAKER_07: You know, just you know, big hair neon colors.
58:22
SPEAKER_03: Do you remember this song?
58:24
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
58:25
SPEAKER_03: And then she had in the mid-90s, she had this one, which is lucky lucky one.
58:30
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
58:31
SPEAKER_03: And there's some controversy about this one.
58:40
SPEAKER_03: You'll you'll see why here in a second.
58:44
SPEAKER_03: This was the duet.
58:45
SPEAKER_03: Did she drop like an apple bomb or something?
58:47
SPEAKER_03: Nope.
58:53
SPEAKER_03: It's called House of Love.
58:57
SPEAKER_03: Just listen for a second.
58:59
SPEAKER_03: Michael Touch.
59:03
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah, I remember the song.
59:04
SPEAKER_03: Do you know who it is?
59:06
SPEAKER_07: Not coming to me.
59:08
SPEAKER_03: This is the first duet with Amy granted Vince Gill.
59:11
SPEAKER_03: Uh Vince Gill was still married.
59:13
SPEAKER_07: This is where they fell in love.
59:14
SPEAKER_03: This was Vince Gill was still married at the time, and they're singing a song called House of Love.
59:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
59:20
SPEAKER_03: And Vince Gill came out with a song of his own called Um Whenever You Come Around.
59:26
SPEAKER_07: You know, and it was almost like Whenever you come around to my house of love.
59:31
SPEAKER_07: It was just meant to be.
59:32
SPEAKER_07: Right.
59:32
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
59:33
SPEAKER_07: Um but I think she talks about that in that Jesus music.
59:38
SPEAKER_07: She probably does, actually.
59:41
SPEAKER_07: There was controversy.
59:42
SPEAKER_07: I mean, she got a divorce, and you know, it was just, you know.
59:46
SPEAKER_03: But they and they both of them they swear that they were not together.
59:48
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm sure.
59:49
SPEAKER_03: And I believe it.
59:50
SPEAKER_07: I think I think I think they just both marriages ended on different terms.
59:54
SPEAKER_07: Right.
59:54
SPEAKER_07: You know, not because of them being together, but I mean they just ended and then they just ended up together.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_07: It's like, hey, you remember remember that House of Song of Love, you know, the you know how we did let's let's make our own house of love.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_03: Okay, now I'm gonna take it a different place.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_03: Because I have always said that Um I was always looking for my Amy Grant.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_03: You remember that, right?
1:00:18
SPEAKER_03: Like when I was looking for um uh a wife or a woman that that you know, I was always looking for my Amy Grant, someone who's wholesome.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_03: But Amy Grant is sexy as hell.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_03: She is just I'm sorry.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_06: She's hot, man.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_03: She's still hot.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_03: Even now.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_03: Yes, she's still hot.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh she's beautiful, and she's got that sexy, raspy voice, and just the way she sings.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I was like, I was always looking for someone who was like that, but kind of wholesome, and then I think I found it.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_04: I think I would agree with that.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_04: She, yeah, yeah.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_04: You say you say my wife is sexy.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, dude.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_04: I'll say it.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_03: I can't wait to play this for her.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_07: That's awesome.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_07: I mean, in a in a in a you know platonic.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_07: I mean, just you know, your your wife's hot, man.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_07: What are you gonna say?
1:01:11
SPEAKER_07: I mean, come on, you know.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_07: I say it all the time.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_07: See, there you go.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_07: I mean, I mean, I'm not, you know, it's it's not a uh, you know, it's not a uh a disser.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_07: You know, no, no, no, no.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_07: I mean it completely complimentary.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_03: Of course, you know, you know, and she would take it that way.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_03: But no, I was I was talking to a certain trumpet player in uh the Star City Syndicate.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_03: Um he was saying, So yeah, how many kids do you have again?
1:01:32
SPEAKER_03: I said, I have five kids.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_03: And he says, Yeah, it's a big family, blah, blah, blah.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_03: And I said, Yeah, my wife is just a damn look good looking.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_07: What else are you gonna do?
1:01:41
SPEAKER_04: What else are you gonna do, right?
1:01:44
SPEAKER_07: He if it's who I'm thinking of, he gets it.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_07: You know, oh yeah.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_03: So I, you know, I probably will never play this podcast for my wife, but you know, yeah, whatever.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: It's probably better that way.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_04: Well, you know, this is what it is.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, Amy Grant.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_03: You never know where this podcast is gonna go.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_03: This is true.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh The Greatest Hits 1986 to 2004.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's why.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_03: It's El Shaddai's not on there.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_03: Because it's before 86?
1:02:09
SPEAKER_03: It is before 86.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_03: Because the I think one of the earliest ones on here is The Water.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, and you know what's on here, but you ever Do you put your songs into in iTunes?
1:02:22
SPEAKER_03: You probably don't anymore.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I do.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: You do?
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_03: Do you do it by C D?
1:02:26
SPEAKER_03: Like if you get a C D do you put it in your iTunes?
1:02:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_03: Does it ever leave off tracks?
1:02:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_03: Okay, because I'm looking, I'm looking at this, and I I'm looking in my iTunes, and of course there's track one, The Water.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_03: Track two, Come Be With Me, which is a duet with Kev Moe, which is really cool.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_03: There's no track three, which is The Next Time I Fall by Her and Peter Sotera.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_03: Which is a great song.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_07: It is a great song, yeah.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_03: But it's not on here.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_03: And then track four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_03: And there's there's actually nineteen songs on here.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_07: So it left off two songs.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_07: Well, I'll tell you, iTunes does weird things with your music at times.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_07: If you're connected to Wi-Fi or the internet, yeah, and you're listening to iTunes, like I have all the Zeppelin albums.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_07: I loaded I have all the Zeppelin studio albums.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_07: And I loaded them all on my iPod.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_07: When if I'm listening to them, like say I want to listen to, you know, Zeppelin 3.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_07: It'll start playing, it'll play the songs, but sometimes it'll throw in other people's versions of that song.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_07: Or live version.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_07: And it's like, that's like versions that you don't have that I'm not supposed to have.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_07: It'll just throw them in.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_07: It's weird.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_07: But if it if it's not connected to the Wi-Fi, it just plays them.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_07: Wow.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_03: It's really odd, man.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, I and I've noticed that before that like I'll go to play something, uh, a certain song from an artist that I have the CD, because that's usually how I load them in.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: If I download them from uh from Amazon and I load them into my iTunes, that's one way.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_03: Actually, sometimes when I download them from Amazon, like I'll click on, like I'll buy an album that's like ten songs.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_03: And you have to you download you you click on the check mark on all ten songs.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_03: And then you hit download.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_03: And then I'll get the it's a zip file.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:04:19
SPEAKER_03: Open up the zip file, and there's like like three songs missing.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_03: Then I go back to Amazon, and those three songs, the check mark is gone.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_03: Even though when I click download, all of them were check marks.
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SPEAKER_07: I think sometimes if it doesn't download a right way, it just skips it and goes to the next one.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_07: It's weird, man.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_07: It's just it's just, you know, it's modern downloading, you know, whatever.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_07: You know, it's crazy.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_07: It's silly.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_07: Crazy, crazy.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_07: Mark!
1:04:43
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, that's gonna be the title of the episode.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_07: Mark! Gotta be all capital letters, gotta have like seven exclamation points.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_07: Mark, Mark! I'd be like, This is a weird episode name.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_07: Season six, episode nine.
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SPEAKER_07: Did you see the last episode?
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SPEAKER_07: It got like we got a download from Ireland.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_03: I did not see that.
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SPEAKER_03: From Dublin?
1:05:08
SPEAKER_03: No, I didn't see that.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we did.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_03: Did you know that last week we got about 21 downloads?
1:05:13
SPEAKER_03: Somebody in Dublin listened to us.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_07: Nice.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_07: Must have been that one.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_07: Must have been one of them.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_07: And our usual from Germany.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_07: Who I I don't know who it is, but I'm always grateful.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_07: And uh there was a couple of there was one from Guyana.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_07: Really?
1:05:27
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_07: I was like South America?
1:05:29
SPEAKER_07: We've never gotten a download from South America.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_07: That's awesome.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_07: So you know, we're we're spreading out, we're getting global.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_07: Pretty soon we'll we'll be playing in Antarctica.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_07: There's people there.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_03: Is there now?
1:05:41
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_03: They're in a lab or something.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_07: No, they have they have this like community, man.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_07: They just they they're all scientist type people.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:05:49
SPEAKER_07: I mean, they have their own like you know, because they they could they they have to live there.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_07: You have to stay there because there's certain times of the year you can't get off the you can't get off the continent because the weather is so bad.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_07: You know, you just get resupplied and you know because I think it's during the winter.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_07: You have to basically stay there because it's dark the whole time.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
1:06:09
SPEAKER_07: And of course the winter down there is the summer up here.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_07: So, you know, it's just it's a crazy continent.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_07: And this uh science explanation is brought to you by Hey, this is the AD, you know, ADHD podcast, man.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_07: We don't know what we're gonna talk about.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_07: It's the basement of the shines.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_07: The basement of the shines, boom.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about anything.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_03: All right, that's season six, episode nine, Mark! I'm O'Brien! Oh Mark!
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SPEAKER_05: Bye everybody! Bye, Mark!
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