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- Elephants: So a hot dog's a hot dog, a hamburger's a hamburger, and a sandwich is a sandwich. But What if I cut up my hot dog into little slices? You got many hot dogs. And then put it on my bur bun. It's still a hot dog. It's still hot dog. What? Okay. What it's okay on b it's not okay on bread, but it's okay with eggs? With eggs? Win egg? So it's gonna be the winet episode. The start is a group chat called Elephants, which makes sense. Because we never forget and because nobody knows when to let it go. shelley: Hi everybody, welcome back to Raise Different. Today we have a couple of topics for you. We're gonna be talking about things that go together and some things that don't go together. Let's dive in. Elephants: Shelley, this one's for you. gosh. Gosh. I know how much you like wieners. So my question for you is and the rest of the group, is is a hot dog a sandwich? I mean what co what const what constitutes a sandwich? It's meat and bread. she got the giggles. my gosh, she's turning red. It's meat and bread. So it would constitute but yes, it's a sandwich. Is is a hamburger a sandwich? It's a burger or a sandwich? And did did you just say the same thing? Is it hamburger a sandwich or is it burger a sandwich? Okay, but what's the difference between hamburger and burger? Are they different for you? No. Okay. They are one of her favorite food groups. A cheeseburger specifically. Yes, I know. It has to have cheese on it. Has to have cheese on it. Yeah, the cheese hamburger? So how so hamburger. Not a cheese hamburger. A cheeseburger. Well, how do y'all feel about this? Hot dog? Sandwich, not sandwich. If it's not a sandwich, then what is it? I think it's a hot tub. The hot tulip is the meat. No, that's a weenie. No. Yes, it's a sandwich, but technically it would fall in the sandwich category. Yes. But we don't call it a sandwich. But the bread isn't two pieces of bread. It's like a sub. yeah, such a sandwich. It cuts a sub is sandwich. A sub is a sandwich. No, they cut it. No. Not in all places, Sun. Not in all places. Not all places. Okay. And if you're a subway, they do a really poor job at it. True. I I I'm gonna go with hot dog. Hot dog is a hot dog it's its own it's its own food category. Like I mean when you say I'm gonna have a hot dog Why do you say it like that? I just say hot dog your face Which I know they can't see, but you said I'm gonna have a hot dog and you like did this whole head movement with it. It was interesting. I'm I'm sorry. It was super unique. Hot dog. It doesn't always mean I'm gonna have a hot dog bun. You have a weaner. You're gonna have a plain hot dog. Delice. my gosh. You put it on the grill. Ew. You gotta really cook it. Like it needs to be black. Charred. Charred. And you eat that with some ketchup all by itself. Delicious. No. No. So that's like that's like if I have weena and egg. I'm not saying I'm having hot dog and egg. What? What did you say? What did you like? Weenah and egg. What? Ween. We call it weena and egg. Weened? Weene. Ween it. Weenay. Weene. Ween like weenie, but weena. Weena. Are you making it French? I'm gonna have a weena. I didn't see me. What the call it's winning. We two down. Wiener and egg. Okay, but wait. I I have a bigger question. You said it so well. Y'all eat hot dogs with your eggs? Like slice, sliced. Like chopped up. Like chopped hot dogs? Weena and egg. And scrambled? And scrambled together? I don't think I'm having hot dog and egg. Well, first. that's ridiculous! Okay. Otherwise she's the only hot dog. You got like so disgusting. The hot dog is the weene in the bun. So why don't you call it a weene? A weenie in a bun. A ween a sandwich. my gosh! I'm dying over here. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Okay, so I think Weene We I love when I learn something new about y'all. That you speak French in the morning when you're cooking your eggs. I will take a weenae. French in the morning and then you're married on the menu and you Exactly what you're what they're talking about. When I go where? Like a taquerilla? Like a They have wine and A. Sausage and egg. No, that's a different country sausage. I have never in my life seen wiener and eggs on a menu. You're gonna notice it now. Yeah, I'm gonna keep my eyes off for it. Keep my eyes off for that win. my husband about this when we get home. Okay. Like this is so inappropriate. You're gonna ask your husband about the weena Has he ever seen it? Like Sully, you're gonna ask your husband if he's ever seen we Gracious. my gosh, my spelling crush. Okay, so so I don't feel like we got anywhere with this sandwich. But I have an even better is so I feel like it's more like a taco than it is a sandwich. no, ma'am. What are you talking about? No. In no place do they put do they have bread as a taco? Yeah. Do you have a tortilla? Or a corn tortilla. Like they're both tortillas. One's fried if it's crunchy, but other than that, they're both tortillas. Yeah. Okay. She said. K and fine. Just K. Just K. K. is cereal considered a soup? No. Soup is hot. Is there cold soup? Yes. What's cold soup? What's cold soup? They do sell cold soups. Cold soup? it's asparagus soup, but they call it s something else in Germany. White asparagus soup, and it's served cold. Really? Mm-hmm. Is it called a soup? Yes. boy. It's not called like a cold cereal with asparagus. You're ridiculous. She just rolled her eyes up there. Gospacho. Gazpacho? Is that a soup? It's a soup. did you look on the interwebs? That's what I'm doing right now. Popular types of cold soups. And it has a a whole list of them. Wow. Okay. Cucumber soup. Is cereal in there? No, cereal's not in here. so then it's not a soup. The Googles said it's not a soup. So you agree with Google? Yes. This time I do. I mean basically chat GPT tells me everything, so yes. It is correct. I believe that wholeheartedly. Cereal is cereal. It's like oatmeal. You like hot oatmeal or cold oatmeal? Cold oatmeal? What? Why would you eat cold oatmeal? Who eats oatmeal? But isn't that like the trend? Like the overnight oats and stuff. Do you know do you know someone that does that we don't need to be friends with? The overnight oats. I warm mine up. You warm your overnight oats up? I've never had overnight oats, but I know it's like o cold oatmeal. Because I can't 'cause it's like basically cereal if you do that. I thought it's like thick or something. I've never had it. Wait, but I've probably never had it because cold. I feel like y'all are using oatmeal as Okay, but is it oatmeal hot cereal? Yes. Like and when you go to H E B it says hot cereal aisle. Baby, I is it cereal not because it's in milk, because you can eat cereal on its own. But cereal is still cereal. Cereal is cereal. It doesn't have to be in milk. Yes. Most people just add milk to it. Soup is typically a more liquid meal. My cereal's pretty liquid. I I don't always put milk in my cereal. Well, that's because you don't like milk. My brother never put milk in his cereal. You don't like milk? No. Yes. You don't with your cereal then? Okay, I won't drink milk. Like I'm I'm not either. Right. But when you make a bowl of cereal, do you just pour the dry stuff in the bowl and say, I made myself a bowl of cereal? Sometimes I do. No. No, you're a weirdo. We we already identified this. I was asking Sadi. I am not a weirdo. If I have a bowl of cereal, I'm pouring milk in it. huh. You just don't drink the leftover You don't drink the milk, the leftover milk. It depends how how sugary the milk is and I'll drink it. Yeah, if it's really sugary and cereal. Like if I'm having Cocoa Krispies. I'm drinking it. Cause it turns into chocolate. Yeah it turned into chocolate. And the and the other one, the cinnamony one. cinnamon. Cinnamon toast crunch? Yes, I'm gonna drink it. I don't like that one. That's weird. Yeah. Not the milk. Fruity pebbles. Any of the fruity ones. No. Yep. Totally drinking it. Lucky charms, drinking it. No, that one doesn't have much like sweet to me. Listen. I need it sweeter. Don't judge me. I'm drinking it. I just eat the marshmallows out of Lucky Charms, let's be honest. That's it. The marshmallow movies are lucky. Yeah, no, I don't like the cereal. It's Do you know now they sell the box that's just marshmallows? Do you like kicks? Kicks? What? Yeah. No What is that? How about smacks? No, those are disagreeable. Why are all the ninety cereals? I haven't seen smacks in the stores in forever. Why are all the ninety cereals aggressive? Aggress Smacks. Sicks. Smacks. Like what else is I don't know, but those two right there sold it for me. We happen to say I'm back to the Pops how funny is that? Pop Pops. I don't like those either. I like those. They have like this weird Ooh, how about Captain Crunch? No, I could just a Captain Crunch, the berries. I never had berries. The whole box of the berries. Christina was originals. They didn't have money for berries. No berries. Well berries. And you know, when they first came out that it they didn't have the berries, so Original. Yeah. Yeah. No, I like the original There's something about that orange little it's orange, right? it's kinda yellow. Yellowish? Yeah. Yeah, something about it. And it always cuts my mouth. yes. Top of my roof of my mouth. Yeah. And it leaves your the roof of your mouth feeling slimy. Yes. Okay. So that's not It's all the sugar. It's all the sugar in the cereal. It's just like coating the roof of your mouth. Yeah, I'm always like I feel like I need You never had kicks? No, I don't know what that is. She hasn't lived. Apparently. Failed. My mom, when I grew up, you know, there was all the fancy stuff like lucky charms, kicks. That was basically bags. My mom would buy the ones that were on the ground in the balls. In the big bags. They off brands. Yeah. They weren't lucky charms. They were like bad luck charms or something like that. It was like Mellows. Yes. I wish I could remember some of the names, because there were. I mean we grew up on those. I thought that's what they were. And then my friends start talking about the cereal came in boxes? Yes. Wait, what? Really? Y'all don't have to decant it and decante what? My mom would not- Why? My mom brought bought those plastic you know, they were big in the day. Tupperware sold them. yeah. Cereal yeah. Because we bought in plastic bags. We had to put in something. We still do that, but it because it looks more like aesthetically pleasing. Well yeah, now people do it because it's aesthetically pleasing. Yeah, but they're not buying ten pounds of cereal to put into there. It really was. It was a huge bag. They still sell them at H E B. They yeah. Look at the bottom shelf. But never looked at those customers and be like, you're poor. They're not in the bottom shelf anymore, by the way. No? No. They start like they're the at the beginning of the cereal aisle in their own section. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I don't go into the store anymore. I like to grocery order for the win. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If I go into the store I spend way too much money. Hey, who likes to go into the grocery store? I just did a test this weekend. It's what the commoners do. And had all my had all my order in the in the in the app. And I went into the store and got my groceries. it's cheaper. And it was I saved Like ten whole bucks. Ten whole dollars seat that okay. I'm worth it. I am I'm I'm worth it. I'm paying that convenience. I'm cheap. You guys know that. I'm about to say I like how you start off with the word frugal and then you're like, no, really. I'm cheap. I'm cheap. Yeah. That ten dollars is worth it. I will spend that ten dollars to not have to go into my grocery store. I agree with this. Okay, I will absolutely agree with not going into your grocery store. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. Yeah. My grocery store is the worst. my gosh. That's why you should live over by here and go into Sadia's grocery store. I'm working on it. Okay. Working on it. All right. So I don't know if we came to a a conclusion if a hot dog is a sandwich. Sadia, what do you feel? I think it would fall under the sandwich category, but I I wouldn't like, I'm gonna go eat a sandwich and then come back with a hot dog. That's weird. what is it? Wina wina? Winay? Weenay. Weena. Wien eggs. We're gonna have a wiener sandwich. Weena? Weena and eggs. Yes. Weena and egg. Yes. It's very French. Very French. But then she said Tacaria, which means it's On a Spanish It's not French menu. Not French. So now I'm confused. Okay. Well, it's okay. technically, yes, I would call it a sandwich. But I would never call it a sandwich. No, that you did not choose a side. You have to choose a side. No, I'm saying I would never say I'm gonna go have a So you would categorize it as a sandwich, but But technically I think it falls in the sandwich category. I think it's its own category. That's my that's my stance. So you're gonna have sandwich category and then just a random hot dog category? Yeah, and then a hamburger cat we're not re arguing this. Yes. But if we put a sausage in the bun. There we go again. If you put a sausage in the bun, does it now become its own third separate category? No, it falls in the hot dog category for me. So still using the same type of bread. That's a hot dog. See a weenie. A weenie on a slice of bread. Not on a button, but on a slice of bread would still be a hot dog. The weenie is what makes it different. we didn't even talk about it on a slice of bread. Yeah, we didn't even go to that. Okay, so it's like a hamburger is on a is on like a on a bun. Mm-hmm. But then what if you put a hamburger between two slices of bread? It's still a hamburger because it's the meat that constitutes the hamburger. So we're not so we're like you said in the beginning. It's all about the meat. It is about the meat. The meat is what qualifies it as the thing. Yes. Okay. I can agree with that. So a hot dog's a hot dog, a hamburger's a hamburger, and a sandwich is a sandwich. But sandwich is like ham, it could be chicken, it can be Right. So there's a lot of different meat that contains a sandwich. Correct. Okay. What if I cut up my hot dog into little slices? You got many hot dogs. And then put it on my bur bun. It's still a hot dog. It's still hot dog. What? Okay. What it's okay on b it's not okay on bread, but it's okay with eggs? With eggs? Win egg? I'm not saying I'm having hot dog and egg though. So it's gonna be the winet episode. no. We didn't get to Christina. She has a she has a say in Hot dog. It's a hot dog. A hot dog is a hot dog? I think that's are we split here? I think that's three to one? No. It's it's it's technically it's a sandwich. Technically it's a sandwich? Technically it's a sandwich. So you're saying She said sandwich. She said a hot dog's a sandwich? Yes. I feel like if I had to categorize it it's a sandwich. Okay. But I'm not gonna say I go I'm gonna go get a sandwich and come back with a hot dog. So we're split. we're split. Or two hot dogs against two sandwiches. Shelley: If you're enjoying this conversation, make sure you hit that like and subscribe so you don't miss the next episode. Elephants: We'll go with the one that I feel like y'all had some feelings around, which was can you be friends with an ex? No. No. I disagree. I think you can. I mean I did. I was. I think it depends on how But you that face says you have different different feelings. No, I just think my situation was probably different. I think it also depends on who you're dating. Whether or not that would be acceptable. Like a boundary. Yeah. Yes, so my feelings about being friends with an ex probably don't align with Jonathan's. Yeah. I don't think he would agree and therefore I would r respect his boundary. Yeah. But I You don't s you don't care. No. 'Cause we're exes for a reason. You have no residual feeling. Yeah, and no reason to go back. Yeah. You don't. No. So why does your ex Yeah. Why would the other party but I can say no. I'm a grown person. Like I choose what I do. It's temptation, Evan. Temptation. I think that shows lack of restraint. But it's also like I don't care to be friends with that person. Which don't do well in food, but in people I'm perfectly fine. Yeah, she'll tell us no all day long. Nope. Nope. You give me a piece of cake and I'm like yes. You just thought about cake. Christina just had thoughts around cake. Woo! If we if that relationship didn't work out, I don't care to pursue a friendship with you. It's almost hard to go backwards from a situation like that. So you've never left a relationship on good terms basically. Yeah. No. See, and I feel like I have. And as you age and get away from the relationship, sometimes what you were upset about was kind of silly. Become well, even if it wasn't, it just becomes you've moved on with your life, you have a new relationship. It just becomes probably matured more. Kind of a mute point if that makes sense. Sure, you can. And I think in my mind, like I will force myself to do that. To not To outgrow them. To outgrow them. Like I'll force myself to outgrow them. I mean again, I'm not friends with any exes, but I don't I don't have any any like feelings about it. Feelings against them? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think if you if you say like if it's early on and you like a person, they like you and y'all try a relationship one day and it lasts for two weeks and it's like, actually this ain't working. We were better off as friends. I think that's cool. Like there wasn't much history being made. I agree. Yeah, a a that's why I think like it it depends on how how far into the relationship you are before it's too late to turn back. Is there a friends a base? Yeah, what is the what is the road too far? Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too. So we talked about the bases. Yeah, I think it's situational, it's like how vulnerable were you with them or how like how deep of a connection do you feel towards that person or did you feel towards that person? Or did you get hurt in the process? Yeah. Maybe you were too vulnerable and suddenly they just aired it to someone else and you're like and there was no basis, but now you've just been totally violating all your businesses shared with someone that you thought wasn't gonna be. I think that any f any relationship is yeah. I would say that can go with just friendships when you're when your your trust is violated. Level of trust, yeah. I I don't know, I think romantic relationships that have an intimacy outside of like a sexual im intimacy. I think that's I'm guessing that's where we're we we're not getting there, but I think that's kind of what we're talking about. There's a difference between emotional intimacy and sexual intimacy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. Which I think can muddy the water a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Makes it hard to see that person and either another relationship or your new relationship. If you start even thinking about like maybe not even saying it out loud, but if you start thinking about a future with them, I think you're in too deep to be able to go back and just be friends. that's an interesting line. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that being the case. But what if maybe like you wanted more out of it and then it just didn't work out that way and you're like no. So I dated somebody when I was younger and we talked about getting married. And then he went off to college, met a girl while he was at college, and we ended up breaking up. years later, a couple years later, not like ten years later, but a couple years later, he moved back, he was married, I was married, and his wife and I actually hit it off really well. Funny story, her name was also Shelley. But we hit it off really well. So we would we would hang out all the time and then we had a group of friends, so he was always there. so I think you can be friends, but our relationship was when I was younger to remember I'm very conservative, so I was saving myself for marriage. so that boundary was never crossed, so I feel like it made the transition to friends a little bit easier. Because he was he wasn't a bad person. Were you more friends with him though the second time around or were you more mutual with him? I was more mutual with him. I was friends with his wife. Okay. Yeah. Which could be awkward too, like to say like, I'm gonna be friends with the ex the who significant other of them. Yeah, right? Like that could be awkward too. I mean it could have been awkward. Like she could have been jealous. Mm-hmm. I could have been jealous. Not that I was, but Yeah. there there could have been a lot of feelings wrapped up in that, but Or the whole you stole my man type of persona. Yeah. And I mean honestly looking back now, I couldn't have imagined what would happen if we married each other. We were not a good match for each other. Yeah. Sweetheart. Yeah, like in early college, like the s the guy dated At the end of high school and the beginning of college. You look back down and you're like, What was I thinking? Yeah. I know what I was thinking. He was he was funny and like we had we had fun together. Not a bad person. But now back it's like was was what you thought love then love now. I mean I think I I And would you have been happy with him? I think I had love for him. Well God we've talked about this. He has five children. my goodness. And I did not want children. And that was something we just would not Yeah necessarily talk about. It would have been a point of contention. It would have, yeah. We would have gotten married and he would have wanted me to start popping out babies. I've been like, let's just wait. And wait, and wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's wait like forty some more. Yeah. I c I can't even actually he might have six. He has a lot of kids. Yeah. Yikes. So I cannot I can't imagine. So your values didn't align. some point. Yeah. I think though sooner the sooner that you realize like something with your values or whatever red flags you notice is kind of the point where you realize okay this person's just gonna be a friend. That's so funny though. That was not one of my red flags. That should have turned me off right away. he wants kids. I don't really want kids. But I think I was also willing to change my mind at the time. At that age. Okay. Yeah. I mean we're talking Seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty. Like Or maybe you thought you could talk him out of it. No, I actually never thought that. I just thought, well, maybe I'll change my mind. I'm so young. Maybe kids Maybe I don't know what I want. Maybe I don't know what I want and kids will be in my future. Like I kind of left the door open. Cracked. Very cracked, yes. Cracked is a good word. Not open. But I feel like there were other things that that took that made our relationship in, which were things like lack of ambition. I I never felt like he was the type of person that was gonna take care of me. Not that I need taking care of like the little woman barefoot in the house, but I wanted to feel like I had a partner in my in my relationship and I I didn't feel like he was gonna be that person. I think you need someone who matches you. Yeah. Right. And I was I'm I've always been a pretty ambitious person but There was like zero. It was smoke and pot. You know what I mean? gra he graduated a year earlier than me and my whole senior year he he had a job but he did not really show progress? Yeah. There was just It was just going to the job. partying a lot and it's just like this I don't mind every w every couple of weekends us going out and partying and stuff like that, but not every weekend, not it just it got old. So old partying all the time. Yeah. I don't even know if you know what that word means. I don't. Partying to you is staying up to like nine. Yeah. Like right now. This is a party. It's getting pretty close to my This is a party for Shelly. My natural bedtime. Natural? Yes. Okay. My body's just like it's gonna be shut down. Yeah. Except for we know that's a lie. complete. One time. One time. Yeah. One time is all it takes for us to know that you can stay up till three AM and still be a functioning human. I can do it. I just don't like to On the biggest fuck mind you. Human. So we know. We know it's possible. We We were only there for twenty four hours. You cannot take it back now. We can't take it back. You can't reel it back. It you can't stuff it back in. She could do that, but she can't go to Bourbon Street for my twenty first. Ooh, rough. I didn't go to Vegas to drink and watch people drink with my friends. You didn't have to drink. I didn't want to be part of the debauchery alcohol. I tried to convince her that no debauchery was gonna happen. I don't know. I don't know. my mom said I couldn't go. that's right. Right. My mom did say I couldn't go. I heard her. Forty years old and your mommy told you you couldn't go. No one's gonna believe this, Shit. My mommy said No one believes it. You can't go. No. No, she didn't believe It's true story. Yeah. I know the words came out of her mouth. Whether or not she believed it. And I listen I didn't tell her anything, but I listened to my mom. I'm keeping it in because I feel like the words that I want to say I shouldn't say on a podcast. Probably not. So probably not. It's so good. I call boloney. baloney. Does that go in a sandwich? It goes in a sandwich. That goes in a sandwich. Alright. Covered a lot of topics. Y'all ready for some cake? Yes. Yes. evan: Enjoying the conversation? Follow Raise Different Podcast on Instagram and Facebook and wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss the next conversation. Herd Vote Friends with Ex: wait, we need to do a herd vote. yeah. let's see. Can you be friends with your ex? I'm I'm a maybe. I think it depends on the relationship, but I feel like there's too much emotion wrapped up, so I'm gonna go with probably not. I'm gonna go with absolutely not. all the sides I'm kinda split. Just kinda depends. You're maybe two. Yeah. Okay, now can we go get some cake? Yes! Cake time! Yes! Bye guys!