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Chuck & Buck 12-5 Hour 1: What a season! ICYMI Rick Neuheisel and no cliche keys to victory! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, welcome in. It is Chuck Powell and
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Speaker 2: and so much football to discuss on today's program, but
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Speaker 2: as you've come to expect. So we'll go through what's
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Speaker 2: on tap here in a little bit. Last night, Thursday
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Speaker 2: Night Football got week number fourteen of the National Football
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Speaker 2: League season underway, and we are coming down to it.
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Speaker 2: We are in the National Football League, and of course
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Speaker 2: it's fun to have a horse not just in the race,
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Speaker 2: but running as fast as anybody else. The Seahawks sitting
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Speaker 2: there at nine and three on the season. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's been such a good year for so many teams
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Speaker 2: that you could have a game like last night where
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Speaker 2: it kind of felt like a playoff game, the Detroit
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Speaker 2: Lions and the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys who had gotten
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Speaker 2: off to the bad start but had rallied recently. Detroit,
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Speaker 2: who lost both its coordinators in the offseason, and people
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Speaker 2: were wondering if they could replicate well. I mean, they're
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Speaker 2: still a really good team, and yet they were going
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Speaker 2: into that game last night with a seven and five
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Speaker 2: record and looked like they were stumbling a little bit,
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Speaker 2: especially since Dan Campbell, who I think likes, had taken
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Speaker 2: over the play calling duties. It's kind of been weird
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Speaker 2: what's happened with the Detroit Lions. But last night they
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Speaker 2: step up and they win it by a final score
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Speaker 2: of forty four to thirty. So it did sort of
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Speaker 2: feel playoff. Yet it was certainly a lot of fun
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Speaker 2: watching the game last night, and it ended up being
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Speaker 2: just as high scoring as everybody was predicted. Yet weren't
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Speaker 2: many people taking the under, it felt like for this game,
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Speaker 2: and it ends up not only getting the over, but
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Speaker 2: it destroys the over last night. But I was thinking
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Speaker 2: about this on the drive in, as you know, people
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Speaker 2: are trying to like categorize this game and where to
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Speaker 2: put these two teams right now in this playoff race.
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Speaker 2: And then I heard a conversation listing off all of
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Speaker 2: the teams that are pretty good this year that are
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Speaker 2: on the outside of the playoffs looking in. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is a I don't think there's a great team
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Speaker 2: in the National Football League.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that.
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Speaker 2: I think there's some teams that could end up being
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Speaker 2: great or could are building. I think ours is one
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Speaker 2: of them, is building toward being described as great.
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Speaker 3: But no one's separating themselves.
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Speaker 2: I just think, I mean, there are a lot of
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Speaker 2: bad teams. Those are pretty eb obvious to recognize. But
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Speaker 2: if you're walking down the street right now, surrounded by
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Speaker 2: National Football League teams and you're trying to find the
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Speaker 2: one that's great, I mean, they all are dressed alike,
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Speaker 2: they all drive the same cars. It feels like, you know,
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Speaker 2: they all have the same level of education. They all
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Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to really find the team. Even
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Speaker 2: the teams that at times have looked great have not
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Speaker 2: been able to sustain greatness. Green Bay's been so hot
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Speaker 2: and cold, Detroit's been so hot and cold. You know,
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Speaker 2: Buffalo's been so hot and cold to this point. Baltimore
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Speaker 2: has been mostly cold this season. We're waiting for them
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Speaker 2: to get hot. Yeah, they've won some games recently, but
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Speaker 2: they still haven't looked like the team that they were
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Speaker 2: supposed to be. And I'm wondering. I mean, people all
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Speaker 2: the time, Ashley say that they love the underdog story.
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Speaker 2: Yeah they don't. I mean, they like it in a movie,
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Speaker 2: they like Rudy, they like Hoosiers, But when it comes
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Speaker 2: to actual sports watching, we tend to gravitate toward greatness.
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Speaker 2: We can complain all we want about who's great and
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Speaker 2: why they're great, and you're sick of them being great.
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Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is most sports fans,
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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying all for you that are in
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Speaker 2: your car and you don't fall into this category. You're
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Speaker 2: sure you don't fall into this category, and you're yelling
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Speaker 2: at me right now, but the numbers bear it out.
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Speaker 2: I mean, think about all of the people that can't
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Speaker 2: stand the Kansas City Chiefs, can't stand Taylor Swift because
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Speaker 2: of the Kansas City Chiefs or vice versa, complain constantly
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Speaker 2: that the rat are trying to help the Kansas City
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Speaker 2: Chiefs win. And I think about all of the people
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Speaker 2: that aren't cowboys fans that hate the cowboys, are sick
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Speaker 2: of the cowboys, think the cowboy arrogance is just we've
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Speaker 2: had enough of it, and we've had enough of it
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Speaker 2: for thirty five years. That Jerry Jones somehow is still
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Speaker 2: arrogant even though his team doesn't win games anymore. Those
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Speaker 2: are two teams that people hate right now in the
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Speaker 2: National Football Football fans not in Kansas City, not in Dallas,
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Speaker 2: or don't have some sort of fan tie to those
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Speaker 2: two teams, hate those two teams. Highest rated football game
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Speaker 2: ever on Thursday, not being a Super Bowl. Yeah, when
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs faced the Cowboys. Those weren't even two teams
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Speaker 2: in the that were playoff teams. But we tend to
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Speaker 2: like the you know, the masses tend to like the
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Speaker 2: shiny object. Nobody gave a damn about the Tampa Bay Rays.
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Speaker 2: Great story a few years ago when they were making
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Speaker 2: World Series. Nobody watched the Rays play the Philadelphia Phillies.
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Speaker 2: Nobody sat there like, man, what a great story this is.
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Speaker 2: You can't wait Lewis payroll, fan base doesn't even really
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Speaker 2: support them, and yet Marin management, Oh so clever, Oh
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Speaker 2: they play so hard. Oh I gotta watch this one. Nope,
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Speaker 2: nobody watched it. But put the Yankees and the Red
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Speaker 2: Sox on television every single night for a decade and
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Speaker 2: watch people, even though they say they hate the two teams,
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Speaker 2: soak it up with a biscuit and so so here
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Speaker 2: we have a definitive. You know, twenty twenty five NFL
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Speaker 2: season where there's still certainly teams that people hate, but
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Speaker 2: we don't have greatness this year. I mean, the two
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Speaker 2: best teams right now in the National Football League record
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Speaker 2: wise are Denver and New England. Anybody scared of those
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Speaker 2: two teams.
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Speaker 3: Probably not no.
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Speaker 2: Chance, Yeah, no chance that anybody's like, oh, but just
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Speaker 2: don't go whatever, however the bracket unfolds, Just to stay
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Speaker 2: away from New England as long as possible. No way. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's like, give me New England.
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Speaker 3: They think everybody thinks it's not real and they're not legit.
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Speaker 2: Give me Denver. They just keep beating people by a
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Speaker 2: point because of some goofy turnover in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they're a good, solid team and they
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Speaker 2: play terrific defense, but give me Denver. And so it's
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Speaker 2: just it is the year. If you've been waiting for
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Speaker 2: the year where you're like, there is not a great
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Speaker 2: football team in the National Football League, this is it.
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Speaker 2: And if you think your own team, the Seahawks are
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Speaker 2: on the verge of being great, oh yeah, go ahead,
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Speaker 2: think all you want about how capable they are. You
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Speaker 2: are well with and you're not just being fanboy or
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Speaker 2: fangirl thinking the Seahawks can win the whole thing. They
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Speaker 2: could emerge from this group of good and be that
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Speaker 2: team that ends up being great. It's that kind of
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Speaker 2: year this year in the National Football League. I personally
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Speaker 2: love it. I'm fascinated by it. But I know that
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Speaker 2: I'm an outlier because I did watch the Race play
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Speaker 2: the Phillies in the World Series and enjoyed it and
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Speaker 2: enjoyed the story. But most people tend to say they
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Speaker 2: like they want parody and they like underdog stories. But
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Speaker 2: the television viewing habits of America do not support that
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Speaker 2: and never have. And so I would just after that
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Speaker 2: long rant, ask you, are you enjoying this year of
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Speaker 2: no greatness in the National Football League?
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Speaker 3: I actually am.
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Speaker 4: It's frustrating only in terms of like a betting standpoint,
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Speaker 4: when you're like, oh, trying to figure out who you
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Speaker 4: think is going to win and then one team just
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Speaker 4: decides to not show up, because there has been so
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Speaker 4: much of that up and down this year. But I
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Speaker 4: think it's been fun because you are getting there's nobody
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Speaker 4: running away with anything right now, so you're getting all
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Speaker 4: of these possibilities as the season comes to an end,
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Speaker 4: versus when you get to the the end of the
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Speaker 4: season and you know, the Chiefs usually have clinched it
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Speaker 4: by now, and so they're just you know, usually there's
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Speaker 4: not all this excitement, not all of this possibility, and
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Speaker 4: right now there's still so much possibility.
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Speaker 3: I think it's awesome.
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Speaker 2: I do too, and I hope people are enjoying it,
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Speaker 2: and I hope we get to the playoffs and nobody's
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Speaker 2: really established themselves as great, because you know, sometimes I
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Speaker 2: get to a Super Bowl and I'm a little disappointed
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Speaker 2: with the team that ends up because I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 2: you just got hot at the right time. Yeah, don't.
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Speaker 2: I invested all this time in this entire season, and
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Speaker 2: what did I get. I got a team that I
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Speaker 2: don't even believe is all that good? Right playing in
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Speaker 2: the super Bowl. That's happened frequently throughout our lifetimes. So
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Speaker 2: I at least want to believe in the two teams
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Speaker 2: that got there, you know what I mean. And yet
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Speaker 2: they're going to be teams that don't even make the
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Speaker 2: playoffs this year that I think have the potential to
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Speaker 2: be too emerge as great. The Kansas City Chiefs and
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Speaker 2: Houston Texans are playing Sunday night. Neither one of them
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Speaker 2: are playoff teams right now. That game we watched last night,
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Speaker 2: as highly entertaining as it was, neither team are playoff
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Speaker 2: teams right now. As good as what the Lions. We're
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Speaker 2: convinced that the Lions are, and as much as everybody
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Speaker 2: does like the Lions, and if my team can't get there,
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Speaker 2: I hope the Lions or the Bills get their mentality
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Speaker 2: that we have as football fans right now. But neither
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Speaker 2: of the Lions, even with the win, have not catapulted
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Speaker 2: themselves into playoff position. So we've got one of those
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Speaker 2: years where every single team that makes the playoffs has
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Speaker 2: a believable path to the super Bowl. And I think
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Speaker 2: it's great, I really do. The only thing about it
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Speaker 2: that is a little off putting is trying to figure
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Speaker 2: out why this year, more than any other year, teams
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Speaker 2: can look great for three or four weeks and then
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Speaker 2: look like crap for three or four weeks, and then
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Speaker 2: you're wondering, well, when is it going to come back
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Speaker 2: around again? So it probably will be one of those
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Speaker 2: scenarios where, man, everybody that gets into the playoffs is
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Speaker 2: going to end up having a good record, with the
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Speaker 2: exception of maybe the AFC North champion, and then from
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Speaker 2: that point forward, it probably will be the team that
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Speaker 2: gets the hottest. And yet I think or I know
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Speaker 2: it will be the team that gets the hottest. But
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Speaker 2: I do believe that every single team that is going
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Speaker 2: to qualify for the playoffs, maybe the first time ever
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Speaker 2: could write al you could write a believable script that
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Speaker 2: they're going to win at all and that includes the
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Speaker 2: team we root for here in the Pacific Northwest.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the exciting part of it is that
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Speaker 4: is especially as a Seahawks fan. I mean, would it
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Speaker 4: be nice if we were just running away with a
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Speaker 4: division and there was no stress? Sure that, you know,
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Speaker 4: it's nice to, especially as a Seattle fan, to have
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Speaker 4: a moment of no stress.
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Speaker 3: But we don't very often get that.
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Speaker 4: And if I was given the chance between no stress
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Speaker 4: or down to the wire, let's see who makes it
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Speaker 4: in Let's see who wins the NFC West, I mean,
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Speaker 4: I want the excitement of down to the wire to
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Speaker 4: see what happens.
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Speaker 2: I would argue that the three least believable teams that
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Speaker 2: I could see putting the crown on at the end
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Speaker 2: of the year are the three teams with the best
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Speaker 2: records in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: I think that's probably true. I think a lot of
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Speaker 3: people would agree with you.
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Speaker 2: New England, Denver and Chicago. Yeah, I mean I don't
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Speaker 2: see them as Super Bowl champion. Certainly as playoff teams
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Speaker 2: and all the credit in the world what Sean Payton's
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Speaker 2: done in Denver and Mike Rabel's done in his first
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Speaker 2: year with the New England Patriots, and what the Bears
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Speaker 2: are doing under Ben Johnson, but I don't buy any
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Speaker 2: of those three teams as super Bowl. That team I
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Speaker 2: watched last night beat the Cowboys, I think is better
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Speaker 2: than all three of those teams. Yeah, and yet they're
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Speaker 2: not even in the playoffs right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: So it's just it's one of those years. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we always talk about parody and whether or not we
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Speaker 2: truly do want it.
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Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 2: I do like it. I think it's very fascinating. Sure,
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Speaker 2: there's also it's also very fascinating to have the Michael
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Speaker 2: Jordan Bulls and that team that you know has clearly
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Speaker 2: established not just greatness but dynastic greatness, and having them
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Speaker 2: circled as can anyone beat the Bulls this year. That's
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Speaker 2: awesome too, that's a great story too. But I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, as often as we talk about parody in
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Speaker 2: our sports, I'm not sure I've ever seen it play
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Speaker 2: out as succinctly as it is this year in the
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Speaker 2: National Football League. There are too many good teams because
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Speaker 2: not all of them can make the playoffs. There are
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Speaker 2: more good teams than playoff spots this year, and there's
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Speaker 2: not a single great one. Right there are teams capable
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Speaker 2: of greatness, and I think we have one.
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Speaker 3: Of those, but no one's shown it yet.
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Speaker 2: But no one, I don't think anybody. I mean maybe
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Speaker 2: the Rams. I mean they've had a pretty dominant but
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Speaker 2: I thought we outplayed them even though they beat us.
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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It's interesting because it's certainly not the Eagles.
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Speaker 2: They look like crap all year long, and aft they're
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Speaker 2: eight and four.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so yeah, you look at the two Super
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Speaker 4: Bowl teams from last year, the Eagles and the Chiefs,
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Speaker 4: and I think, like god it, I hope we don't
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Speaker 4: get a matchup of that. That would be terrible in
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl if they somehow both made it. The
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Speaker 4: Chiefs are looking like they're not even gonna make the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: You's look like they're not going to make the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, that Dallas team that
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Speaker 2: lost last night, as much as people hate Dallas, they're
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Speaker 2: better than the Eagles right now. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they just beat them. Yeah, they just beat them.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, yeah, but so they're better.
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Speaker 2: Than the Philadelpa Eagles right now, even though they're definding.
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Speaker 2: Now that again the hot and cold of this year. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the Eagles certainly have everything it takes to get their
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Speaker 2: crap back together.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are not figuring out how to do it though.
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Speaker 1: But they have.
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Speaker 2: This is twelve games. There were twelve games into this season.
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Speaker 2: I know they've won eight of them, but they have
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Speaker 2: not looked like the same team in any of the
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Speaker 2: twelve games they've played this year. They have not looked
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Speaker 2: like the team that we watched in the second half
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Speaker 2: and into the playoffs last year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, and I agree.
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Speaker 4: And it's it is interesting because when we were talking,
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Speaker 4: when you were talking about the parody, and you know,
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Speaker 4: having these teams in the Super Bowl and everybody really
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Speaker 4: is going to tune in to see the big teams,
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Speaker 4: even with the dynasties, right, Yeah, I was sick of
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Speaker 4: the Patriots. I'm sick of the Chiefs, just of winning
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Speaker 4: all the time. Right, So you're tuning in now to see, well, yeah,
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Speaker 4: can that team knock them out? Can they stop them
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Speaker 4: from three peating? And that's where the excitement still comes in,
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Speaker 4: as long as it's not the same two teams in
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl every year.
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Speaker 2: Well, we tend to watch the Super Bowl no matter what.
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Speaker 2: Ye unlike the World Series, but certainly there are the
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Speaker 2: matchups that you feel are epic, that are historic. Yes,
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Speaker 2: And I don't think there's I mean, there are ways
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Speaker 2: to get there. I think Buffalo Detroit is a historic
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl matchup. I don't think anybody is not watching
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Speaker 2: that game. But they've got to get there first, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean, and the way Buffaloes look like crap at
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Speaker 2: times this year too.
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Speaker 4: Well, and there's just the additions that they're making too.
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Speaker 4: And then now, yeah, they added Darius Lay, who now
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Speaker 4: is like I might retire, actually thinks it's fascinating.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's completely fascinating. I love that
17:15
Speaker 2: we're going into Week fourteen and there's one game separating
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Speaker 2: the Texans, Colts, and Jaguars right now. Yeah, I love
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Speaker 2: that we're in Week fourteen and the Ravens and the
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Speaker 2: Steelers are are are not running away with a division
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Speaker 2: in which the Cincinnati Bengals have been outscored by ninety
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Speaker 2: four points this year and have played without their best
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Speaker 2: player all season long.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's crazy.
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Speaker 2: And there are only two games. The Ravens and the
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Speaker 2: Steelers are only two games up on that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bengals should have should have had no chance
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Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow coming back to even consider making the playoffs,
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Speaker 4: and they do have a legitimate shot to try to
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Speaker 4: figure it out.
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Speaker 2: I love that the Carolina Panthers are seven and six.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how.
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Speaker 3: I love that they don't know how they're and they're.
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Speaker 2: Getting better every single week. So I mean, it's, uh,
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Speaker 2: it's it's been a fun season. It's been a wacky season.
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Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever seen a season quite like it.
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Speaker 2: And I and and obviously the path that we're on,
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Speaker 2: I mean normally we get to the postseason and you're like,
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Speaker 2: oh gosh, they're seven and ten, why are they in
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Speaker 2: the playoffs? This year, there's going to be a team
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Speaker 2: that's going to be like eleven and five, or see
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Speaker 2: me eleven and six that might not make the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: That's the kind of year that it has been. All Right,
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Speaker 2: let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
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Speaker 2: the show.
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Speaker 5: What's on TEP?
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Speaker 2: What's untep? All Right, Seahawks and Atlanta Sunday at ten o'clock.
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Speaker 2: It is a football Friday. We will have Greg Bell.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of our mir plaw of of of football.
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Speaker 3: What's that word mean?
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Speaker 2: That's that rue that almost all Cajun dishes start with.
18:52
Speaker 2: All Right, you know, it's like, yeah, so our football Friday.
18:56
Speaker 2: The base, the bass flavors are all here. The ingredients
18:59
Speaker 2: are Greg Bell at seven oh five, Hugh Millin at nine,
19:03
Speaker 2: and Mike Holmgren at nine thirty today, and we'll also
19:07
Speaker 2: hear from Rick Neweissel today at some point as well.
19:10
Speaker 2: I'll explain that in a moment. The Allions did defeat
19:12
Speaker 2: the Cowboys to get the week started forty four to
19:15
Speaker 2: thirty last night. But Week fourteen, as I think I
19:19
Speaker 2: have illustrated, fascinating Indianapolis at Jacksonville. They're tied to top
19:23
Speaker 2: the AFC South. They play the early game Chicago and
19:27
Speaker 2: Green Bay separated by a half game in the NFC North,
19:31
Speaker 2: they play the best afternoon game on Sunday. And then
19:35
Speaker 2: you've got the night game Houston at Kansas City. And
19:38
Speaker 2: believe it or not, both of those teams are on
19:40
Speaker 2: the outside looking in at the playoffs at this point,
19:44
Speaker 2: so they might both be and must win mode already.
19:48
Speaker 2: So that's a pretty good Sunday night tilt. And then
19:50
Speaker 2: of course you've got the AFC North Division. Pittsburgh at
19:54
Speaker 2: Baltimore is taking place this Sunday. Cincinnati will be at Buffalo,
19:58
Speaker 2: and I know Buffalo's not in that vision, but obviously
20:01
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is, and so that's a fascinating Joe Burrow versus
20:05
Speaker 2: Josh Allen matchup. So this is one of the better,
20:07
Speaker 2: if not one of the best weeks in the National
20:10
Speaker 2: Football League on paper, that we have seen this year.
20:13
Speaker 2: College football great weekend obviously, because it's conference championship weekend
20:19
Speaker 2: and the conference championships will actually start to be determined tonight.
20:23
Speaker 2: You'll have the lesser programs going for their conference championships tonight,
20:29
Speaker 2: Troy versus James Madison at four o'clock tonight, North Texas
20:33
Speaker 2: will take on Tulane at five o'clock. Very interesting part
20:37
Speaker 2: of this evening is that I have been misrepresenting a
20:42
Speaker 2: little bit how these rules work, and it's hard to
20:44
Speaker 2: keep track of all of them. I have told you
20:47
Speaker 2: repeatedly there's a chance the ACC champion might not be
20:52
Speaker 2: in the tournament. That's true, there is a chance. But
20:55
Speaker 2: here's what I misrepresented. Five conference champions have to be represented.
21:01
Speaker 2: So that means two of the teams that are playing
21:05
Speaker 2: tonight could get in above Duke. Oh wow, Okay, So
21:09
Speaker 2: North Texas Tulane winner could be above them, and if
21:12
Speaker 2: James Madison wins, they could be above them. They won't
21:14
Speaker 2: be above Virginia, but they will be above Duke. So
21:18
Speaker 2: we could have two of the group of five. In
21:21
Speaker 2: a year in which there are about twenty deserving teams
21:24
Speaker 2: to make the tournament, we could have two small programs
21:27
Speaker 2: getting in and mucking things up for everybody.
21:30
Speaker 3: We love that.
21:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Saturday BYU at Texas Tech that's at
21:34
Speaker 2: nine am. Georgia and Alabama's at one, Indiana and Ohio
21:38
Speaker 2: State is at five, and Virginia at Duke also at
21:41
Speaker 2: five o'clock. Selections Sunday will announce it's this Sunday. The
21:46
Speaker 2: twelve teams in this year's tournament College basketball ubs at
21:49
Speaker 2: USC tomorrow at three o'clock. The Kraken just got dominated
21:53
Speaker 2: last night by the Edmonton Oilers nine to four, and
21:56
Speaker 2: the Winter meetings will start to Sunday. We will all
22:00
Speaker 2: also talk about this at some point today as well,
22:02
Speaker 2: but coming up next. Rick new isil earlier this week,
22:05
Speaker 2: in case you missed it, talked about the upcoming selection
22:09
Speaker 2: Sunday some of the problems he has with it. We'll
22:11
Speaker 2: get into that next. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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Speaker 5: I like the addition, Brenton, only our cameras work.
22:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got what I was putting down there. I
22:33
Speaker 2: sure it did a little Friday dance party between Ashley
22:36
Speaker 2: Ryan and myself.
22:37
Speaker 3: That's right.
22:37
Speaker 2: Ju't worry five Iron, there will be no slow dances
22:40
Speaker 2: on this dance party.
22:42
Speaker 3: He'd be like, actually, if you do it, I don't
22:43
Speaker 3: have to. That'd be great.
22:45
Speaker 2: He doesn't really strike me as a slow dance I
22:48
Speaker 2: want to dance kind of guy.
22:49
Speaker 3: Now, when we got married, he's like, we have to
22:51
Speaker 3: do a dance. I was like, yes, we have to
22:54
Speaker 3: do a dance.
22:54
Speaker 2: Something tells me in your time and your wonderful marital
22:59
Speaker 2: bliss of how many years? Thirteen years? Never once his
23:04
Speaker 2: five iron in the middle of the evening while you're
23:06
Speaker 2: watching the game, put down his laptop and said, you
23:10
Speaker 2: want to go dancing?
23:12
Speaker 4: No, we've been at least two where they're dancing. He's like,
23:16
Speaker 4: and people are like, come on, let's go dance.
23:18
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't dance.
23:20
Speaker 4: He has to be quite intoxicated to dance, and then
23:22
Speaker 4: you can't get him off the dance floor.
23:24
Speaker 3: And you also don't want him on the dance floor.
23:26
Speaker 4: So he will go on if he's had enough beverages, okay, because.
23:30
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that won't go on
23:31
Speaker 2: at all, like it's the scariest thing for them in
23:34
Speaker 2: the world.
23:34
Speaker 3: He's fine if he's had plenty of liquid courage.
23:38
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, all right, I like that. I like that.
23:41
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, I like it because you haven't seen
23:43
Speaker 3: it yet.
23:44
Speaker 2: But even if he's terrible, I just like people, you know,
23:47
Speaker 2: as the song suggests, I hope you dance. Yes, there
23:50
Speaker 2: you go. So I'm glad that he has at least danced,
23:55
Speaker 2: even if he had to be chased off the dance.
23:57
Speaker 3: He has at least danced.
23:58
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good, all right. Rick Neuheisel joins us
24:03
Speaker 2: every Tuesday at nine o'clock and often, as you know,
24:07
Speaker 2: if you listen to this show regularly on Fridays, we
24:09
Speaker 2: replace some of it for you on a football Friday,
24:13
Speaker 2: just in case you missed it. Well, we talked about
24:16
Speaker 2: the games that are coming up in conference championship week,
24:19
Speaker 2: but I Ashley and I have chosen to replay for
24:22
Speaker 2: you the portion about selection Sunday and how this tournament feeled,
24:27
Speaker 2: all the drama that's going into this final week before
24:30
Speaker 2: we know the twelve teams that are officially going to
24:33
Speaker 2: get into the tournament. So we'll pick up the conversation there.
24:37
Speaker 2: When I talked to coach, I started the conversation just
24:41
Speaker 2: by talking about how exciting Saturday was. All of the
24:44
Speaker 2: college football action with all of the different playoff implications.
24:49
Speaker 2: Actually for me was more entertaining. Sunday was like a
24:52
Speaker 2: disappointment when I got to the NFL because I was
24:55
Speaker 2: into the college Friday and Saturday so much. And I
24:58
Speaker 2: asked him about that.
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Speaker 6: The games deliver, There's no question about it. And in
25:02
Speaker 6: this particular iteration, the twenty twenty five seasons. We don't
25:06
Speaker 6: have enough room at the end for the teams that
25:08
Speaker 6: probably could win a national championship. I mean there's a
25:12
Speaker 6: number of teams that are going to be outside looking
25:15
Speaker 6: in when the committee gets finished with their work this
25:17
Speaker 6: next Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's part of it. There were
25:20
Speaker 2: just like there were so many teams that had a
25:22
Speaker 2: tournament possibility that you got to watch. It just felt
25:25
Speaker 2: like all the games just had greater magnitude. And now
25:29
Speaker 2: we get to Selection Sunday this week, and I hope,
25:34
Speaker 2: I hope that they don't overreact. I mean, there are
25:37
Speaker 2: sixteen viable teams that could be in the tournament this year,
25:40
Speaker 2: but I hope they don't overreact and feel, well, we
25:42
Speaker 2: have to expand it now because as Nick Saban said
25:45
Speaker 2: on Saturday, and I watch College basketball sex Selection show
25:50
Speaker 2: and they have sixty eight teams and they spend two
25:52
Speaker 2: hours afterwards talking about the teams that didn't get in.
25:55
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter how big you make the tournament.
25:58
Speaker 2: I like twelve. Want to keep it here for at
26:01
Speaker 2: least for a while. Kick the tires on this thing.
26:03
Speaker 6: I'm with you. I've long you know, said that the
26:07
Speaker 6: number needs to go higher just so that you can
26:11
Speaker 6: pay your bills. I mean, at the end of the day,
26:14
Speaker 6: that's the reason it will go higher. But if you're
26:17
Speaker 6: wanting competitive football and you're wanting what we have, I
26:23
Speaker 6: just think we need to tweak the schedules and we
26:25
Speaker 6: need to make it not as subjective in the committee room,
26:30
Speaker 6: because they just stick to wins and losses, the head
26:34
Speaker 6: to head stuff. The the notion of of you know,
26:41
Speaker 6: who you played really isn't factored in. You can't have
26:46
Speaker 6: Notre Dame ahead of Miami. That makes no sense to anybody.
26:49
Speaker 2: Give us your tweeks, go through your list of tweaks
26:52
Speaker 2: that can fix what we look like. We're going to
26:55
Speaker 2: be facing some potential issues.
26:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know I if you talk to Texas,
27:01
Speaker 6: there are five teams that are going to make the
27:04
Speaker 6: tournament from the SEC. And if you look at the
27:08
Speaker 6: top five teams in the SEC, there are two that
27:10
Speaker 6: are seven and one and there are three that are
27:12
Speaker 6: six and two. Texas is one of those six and
27:15
Speaker 6: two teams and they beat the other two six and
27:18
Speaker 6: two teams, but they lost to Ohio State. The reason
27:21
Speaker 6: they lost to Ohio State is they played Ohio State,
27:25
Speaker 6: they didn't have to and they're in. If we want
27:28
Speaker 6: games that are going to be of significance in the
27:31
Speaker 6: non conference, we can't penalize people. And yet I also
27:34
Speaker 6: understand if you didn't win the game, you can't be
27:37
Speaker 6: rewarded as if you did. So we need to have
27:40
Speaker 6: a way to actually make standardize the non conference schedules
27:47
Speaker 6: as the NFL does, and if we can do that,
27:50
Speaker 6: then we can get to where we want to be.
27:51
Speaker 6: But all this arguing and all this consternation actually is
27:55
Speaker 6: as much a part of the Thanksgiving table of college
27:59
Speaker 6: football as any Well.
28:01
Speaker 7: If you're wanting to do that, incentivize people to do
28:04
Speaker 7: what Texas did. And in playing Ohio State in Week one, don't.
28:08
Speaker 6: You think by the way they and by the way
28:11
Speaker 6: Bucky they lost the game fourteen to seven, they outgained
28:14
Speaker 6: them by two hundred yards, right, I mean it just
28:18
Speaker 6: was one of those first games that this didn't go well.
28:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just couldn't finish off some of those drives.
28:23
Speaker 7: And so to me, it's if you're talking about it,
28:25
Speaker 7: you know, basically you want to get to the root
28:27
Speaker 7: of the problem. Follow the dollar, you would have to
28:30
Speaker 7: think that the dollar says playing games, having games like
28:33
Speaker 7: that to be kicking off seasons or having those in
28:35
Speaker 7: the first few weeks of a season is going to
28:37
Speaker 7: be more of a money generator than playing against some
28:41
Speaker 7: paddy cake, you know, team that you know you're going
28:43
Speaker 7: to blow out by fifty sixty points. And so don't
28:46
Speaker 7: you think that the College Football and the committee included
28:49
Speaker 7: kind of says, if we want this to continue, we
28:51
Speaker 7: have to reward a team like Texas for going out
28:55
Speaker 7: and playing that, because it's not like they haven't. This
28:57
Speaker 7: isn't like they're a four lost team, you know that
29:00
Speaker 7: just all of a sudden upset number three or beat
29:02
Speaker 7: a number three team. I mean, they have two losses
29:05
Speaker 7: in conference, and one was a bad one, but other
29:08
Speaker 7: than that, the other the rest of their schedule looks
29:10
Speaker 7: like they've done fairly well.
29:12
Speaker 6: Really well, and they've played five top ten teams. I mean,
29:16
Speaker 6: the facts of the matter are they look like a
29:19
Speaker 6: championship caliber team on Friday night, and as you're sitting there,
29:23
Speaker 6: going are there eleven better teams than them? Are twelve
29:26
Speaker 6: better teams than them? The answer is probably not based
29:29
Speaker 6: on that showing, but the fact that they lost three
29:32
Speaker 6: games is going to knock them out. Well, they lost
29:36
Speaker 6: the third game by virtue of playing a game in
29:39
Speaker 6: Week one, which we are going to now spend a
29:42
Speaker 6: lot of time focusing on, and yet we won't focus
29:45
Speaker 6: on another game in Week one where Miami beat Notre
29:48
Speaker 6: Dame because we just like Notre Dame. I don't get that.
29:53
Speaker 2: Will Alabama if they lose on Saturday? Are you in
29:58
Speaker 2: the camp of I don't think they should be penalized
30:01
Speaker 2: because they earned the right to play an additional game
30:04
Speaker 2: and have to play Georgia second time? Or do you
30:07
Speaker 2: think a third loss regardless of when it came, considering
30:11
Speaker 2: how much stiff competition is there to try to get
30:13
Speaker 2: into this loaded tournament, do you think that it will
30:17
Speaker 2: cost them their spot.
30:19
Speaker 6: Again with so many people knocking at the door. I
30:21
Speaker 6: don't want to tell Caitlin de Bor there's no risk here.
30:25
Speaker 6: I think there is risk, especially now if you told
30:29
Speaker 6: me the game was they lose by a field goal
30:31
Speaker 6: in overtime. I think they're fine. If you tell me
30:33
Speaker 6: they get beat like Texas got beat thirty five to ten,
30:36
Speaker 6: even though it was fourteen to ten going to the
30:38
Speaker 6: fourth quarter. I think they're in harm's way because if
30:42
Speaker 6: BYU wins the Big twelve Championship they're in, does Texas
30:48
Speaker 6: Tech fall out? Probably not. And there's where you could
30:51
Speaker 6: slide Alabama out. You know, there's a number of people
30:54
Speaker 6: pushing for Vanderbilt. There's a number of people pushing for Miami.
30:58
Speaker 6: You might solve the Miami issue with that move, right.
31:02
Speaker 6: So it's not a safe place to be if you're Alabama.
31:05
Speaker 2: Are you resigned to Miami, Vanderbilt in Texas not getting
31:08
Speaker 2: into this tournament no matter what unfolds.
31:11
Speaker 6: I am of the mind that those three teams are
31:14
Speaker 6: going to be very, very disappointed. The only chance they
31:18
Speaker 6: have is a Alabama loss.
31:22
Speaker 2: Reck new isl If you want to hear the entire conversation,
31:25
Speaker 2: feel free to check it out. It's our our shows
31:27
Speaker 2: always in podcast form.
31:28
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
31:29
Speaker 2: You can say it at I three three khr dot
31:31
Speaker 2: com and so make sure you listen to the entire thing.
31:35
Speaker 2: We get into the games with him as well. But
31:38
Speaker 2: Mayah again, we talked about like the parody in the
31:42
Speaker 2: National Football League this year. Obviously there are more good
31:45
Speaker 2: teams that are going to fit into this, you know,
31:48
Speaker 2: twelve piece box. You know, we got twenty McNuggets and
31:51
Speaker 2: we only got a twelve piece box.
31:53
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it'll be overflown with chicken, right.
31:56
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of the things, almost everything
31:59
Speaker 2: I agree with coach on. But there's one thing that
32:02
Speaker 2: I just do not see how to ie with, and
32:05
Speaker 2: that's the Miami Notre Dame line. You can't have Notre
32:09
Speaker 2: Dame over Miami. I think there's a world where Miami
32:13
Speaker 2: should get in over Notre Dame. I think there's a
32:15
Speaker 2: great argument for that. Maybe fifty one percent of me
32:19
Speaker 2: feels like Miami should be in over Notre Dame. But
32:21
Speaker 2: there's certainly a world where Notre Dame gets in over Miami.
32:24
Speaker 2: And we'll talk about that a little bit later on
32:27
Speaker 2: in the show when we have some time. But coming
32:29
Speaker 2: up next, no cliche keys to victory for you. We
32:32
Speaker 2: do it every Friday. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
32:36
Speaker 2: Fun and dance with everybody else, but no cliche keys
32:40
Speaker 2: the victory roll around. I get this half hearted effort
32:42
Speaker 2: over there.
32:43
Speaker 3: That's all he does.
32:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
32:45
Speaker 3: His hands are all the way up.
32:47
Speaker 2: See you have the ability to have fun, yeah and up, yes,
32:52
Speaker 2: put him up in the air and wave him around
32:54
Speaker 2: like you just don't care.
32:55
Speaker 3: We're not asking a lot.
32:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, get with the programs. Tired of dropping hints that
33:03
Speaker 2: you're on the outside of this dance party looking in,
33:07
Speaker 2: all right? Tip for no cliche keys to victory? Just
33:09
Speaker 2: Ashley and I here today Bucky's out party. Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly.
33:16
Speaker 2: So you can't use winning the trenches. You can't win
33:19
Speaker 2: use the turnover battle. We know how important those things are.
33:22
Speaker 2: It's a cliche. Frankly, it's a cop out keeps you
33:26
Speaker 2: from actually providing analysis that is meaningful. So what do
33:31
Speaker 2: you think Seahawk's falcons will be the no cliche key
33:34
Speaker 2: to victory?
33:35
Speaker 4: Ashley, Well, I'm gonna say some very specific turnovers. Okay,
33:39
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold needs to hold onto the ball when the
33:42
Speaker 4: pass rush is coming at him, and that has been.
33:46
Speaker 3: Talked about all this week. He has had a significant problem.
33:48
Speaker 4: He fumbles a lot when he gets sacked, and he
33:50
Speaker 4: doesn't get sacked a lot, but his sacked to.
33:53
Speaker 3: Fumble ratio is higher than it should be.
33:56
Speaker 4: And so I'm going to say in that moment, because
33:59
Speaker 4: this is an there blitzeing team, right, just like the
34:01
Speaker 4: Vikings that we played, So you're gonna see it a
34:03
Speaker 4: lot again. So you gotta i mean glue the ball
34:06
Speaker 4: to your body, to your hands.
34:08
Speaker 3: Everything just hard to throw.
34:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be a wrap or wrap every ounce
34:14
Speaker 4: of your flesh around it and hang on to that
34:16
Speaker 4: damn ball and just and take the sack.
34:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hugh makes a very good argument about this. I mean,
34:23
Speaker 2: sometimes you just can't help it, like you're trying. You're
34:26
Speaker 2: not holding a football like a running back holds a
34:29
Speaker 2: football or a receipt, because you've got to throw the
34:31
Speaker 2: damn thing. So quarterbacks are more vulnerable to this. But
34:37
Speaker 2: you're right, the ratio is not good sacked to fumble ratio.
34:42
Speaker 2: I don't know if Sam Darnold has a fumbling issue.
34:45
Speaker 2: Maybe just the victim of you know, the bad timing.
34:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he has a fumbling issue. It's
34:53
Speaker 4: just become this is an issue this particular.
34:57
Speaker 2: But I will say this, I mean, in terms of
34:59
Speaker 2: your key, I do think it's one of those matchups
35:02
Speaker 2: where as long as you don't make costly mistakes kill
35:07
Speaker 2: yourself in the turnover battle.
35:09
Speaker 3: You should be fine.
35:10
Speaker 2: You should win this game. Yes, I mean, not only
35:12
Speaker 2: are the Atlanta Falcons not very good, they're playing their
35:15
Speaker 2: worst right now. They're banged up right now, and frankly,
35:18
Speaker 2: I think they're just playing out the string with a
35:20
Speaker 2: coach that everybody knows is going to get fired.
35:22
Speaker 3: It seems like it.
35:23
Speaker 2: So my key is and you'll, you know. And in basketball,
35:28
Speaker 2: it's harder to keep one guy from killing you because
35:32
Speaker 2: everybody has the opportunity to touch the ball every trip
35:36
Speaker 2: down the floor and there are only five guys on
35:39
Speaker 2: each team. In baseball, boy, you shouldn't be a you
35:43
Speaker 2: shouldn't let one guy kill you. But the games are
35:45
Speaker 2: so low scoring that if you pitch to Vladimir Guerrero once,
35:50
Speaker 2: he might beat you. So it's hard to keep a
35:53
Speaker 2: baseball guy from beating you. And football it's really difficult.
35:57
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to kind of go out of
35:58
Speaker 2: your way to let one take you down. And yet
36:01
Speaker 2: I think it's one of those kind of games. As
36:04
Speaker 2: long as you don't let Jon Robinson take you down, yeah,
36:07
Speaker 2: you should win this football game. And I just can't
36:10
Speaker 2: imagine what I've seen from Mike McDonald that his game
36:13
Speaker 2: plan isn't all about bottling up Bjon Robinson with a
36:19
Speaker 2: very good, maybe great defense filled with terrific athleticism, and
36:25
Speaker 2: as you pointed out, I love this segment from him yesterday.
36:29
Speaker 2: The zone run like this should be Bon Robinson's worst
36:35
Speaker 2: matchup of the entire season. So for them to be
36:38
Speaker 2: without Michael Pennix, without Drake London, and pretty much just
36:42
Speaker 2: relying on whether or not Bjon Robinson can collect three
36:46
Speaker 2: hundred total yards of offense, I just can't imagine a
36:49
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald defense is going to be vulnerable or susceptible
36:53
Speaker 2: to that attack. One guy I don't think can beat
36:57
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, So that's gonna be my He just don't
37:00
Speaker 2: let Bejon Robinson dominate you. You should win this game,
37:04
Speaker 2: And because I don't think that he will, I think
37:06
Speaker 2: we'll win this game, all right. Coming up next Headlines
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