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Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s Deposition in Edwards and Cassell v. Alan Dershowitz (Part 1) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna begin taking a
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  look at a deposition given by Virginia Roberts in January
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  of twenty sixteen. And this deposition has to do with
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  a lawsuit filed by Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell against
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  Alan Dershowitz. And in this deposition we have Miss Borja,
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  who is a lawyer for Alan Dershowitz, asking the questions
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  and then Virginia is going to do the answering. And
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  like usual, when I say question, that means Miss Borgia
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  has asked a question, and then obviously the answer is
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  from Virginia. So let us dive in. So they swear
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  in and Miss Borgia asked, we have noticed this examination
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  for you, as Virginia Roberts. I understand that you have
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  a different married last name. Answer yeah, question could you
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  pronounce that for me? Answer Jeoffrey. Question if from time
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  to time I call you Miss Roberts, would that be
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  okay with you today? Answer absolutely. Question. I'm going to
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  hand you a document that's been marked is VR Exhibit
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  number one, which is a notice of taking video deuces Teacum.
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  Miss Roberts. Are you appearing here today pursuing to this
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  notice of video deposition deuces teacum answer yes. Question. Did
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  you bring any documents with you today? Pursuant to the
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  deuces Teacum answer no question where you asked to bring
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  any documents with you today? Answer no question. You understand
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  that you're under oath today and that your testimony is
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  being taken down by the court reporter correct answer, yeah question,
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  and today's testimony is the same as if you were
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  testifying before a judge and a jury. Do you understand that?
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  Answer yes. Question. It's important that you allow me to
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  finish my question and allow you to finish your answer,
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  because the court reporter is very good, but she can
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  only type one of us talking out of time. Is
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  that okay? Answer? Yeah question. It's also important that all
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  of your answers are verbal, since nodding your head or
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  shaking your head if you mean yes or no, you
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  should give it a verbal response. Is that agreeable answer? Yes? Question.
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  What's your current home address? Miss McCauley, who is Sigarett
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  McCauley and one of Virginia's lawyers. We're going to object
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  on the record. You're welcome to notice anything to my
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  law office for Virginia. She had some safety issues with
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  respect to her location, so we're not going to be
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  putting that out on the record. Miss Bora, that's fine.
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  You're going to accept service for all purposes in this action. McCauley, Yes, Borja,
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  that's fine. Thank you, McCauley, Yes, if you need to
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  server with anything, Borgia. Question Miss Roberts, are you taking
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  medication that would affect in any way your ability to testify? Answer?
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  No question. Were you involved in collecting documents for production
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  in this case? Answer? I don't understand. Question. I'll get
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  back to that in a little bit. Are you aware
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  of the action that your attorneys, Brad Edwards and Paul
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  Cassel filed against the government? Answer yes. Question if I
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  call that the federal action or the CVRA action, will
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  you understand the action that I'm referring to. Answer yes, question,
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  and you sought to join that action? Correct answer, yes question,
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  And you understand that you were Jane Doe three in
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  the motion for joinder right answer, yes question. I'm going
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  to show you. I'm not going to market as exhibit
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  a copy of Jane Do three and Jane Do four
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  corrected motion pursuant to Rule twenty one for joinder and action.
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  Do you have that in front of you right now? Answer? Yes.
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  Question and this was entered as document two eighty in
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  the docket for purposes of identification in our record or
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  here today? Did you review this document before it was filed? Answer?
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  Not this specific document. No question. Were you aware that
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  this joined your motion was being filed in the CVR action? Answer?
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  I knew there was an action for the CVRA for
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  me to be joined. Yes. Question And you're aware are
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  you not that there are allegations that you were sexually
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  trafficked being made in that action? Correct answer? I'm aware
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  that there are allegations that I was trafficked. Question. If
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  you turned a page four this document, the numbers are
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  on the bottom of the page. In that first full paragraph,
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  in the third line down, it says Epstein required Jane
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  do three to have sexual relations with Dershowitz on numerous
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  occasions when she was a minor. McCauley, feel free to
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  look at the entire page. Mister Scrola. It is a
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  minor discrepancy, but I think you read it as when
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  she was a minor, and it's while she was a
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  minor Borgia. Question while she was a minor, do you
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  see where I'm reading starting in the third line? Answer yes.
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  Question is that allegation true? Answer yes. Question If you
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  go to page six of the document, do you see
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  paragraph that starts Epstein also trafficked? Answer yes. Question it
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  says Epstein also traffic Jane do three for sexual purposes
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  to many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians,
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  powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well known prime minister,
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  and other world leaders. Do you see that? Answer yes?
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  Question is that allegation true? Answer yes. Question the reference
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  there to foreign presidents? Do you see that? Answer yes?
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  Question you are sexually trafficked to foreign presidents? Answer no. Question,
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  so that's not true. You are not sexually trafficked to
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  foreign presidents. Answer I don't know what foreign president you're
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  talking about. Question have you ever been sexually trafficked to
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  any foreign president? Ms McCauley, I'm going to allow you
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  to ask that question, but with respect to specific identification
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  of an individual, we're not going to do that. At
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  this point, she has Borgia Council. Your objection has been made.
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  No speaking objections, Please, let's move on McCauley. I can
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  make a record, and my record is she's not going
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  to be speaking with respect to individuals' names that are
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  named in generalities in the document. Special Master objection overruled.
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  You can answer, Virginia, I understand well known prime ministers
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  and other world leaders. As far as far as foreign presidents,
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  I'm not too sure. I don't know. Question have you
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  ever met any foreign presidents? Answer? Foreign presidents as in overseas?
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  Question sure, okay, overseas answer no. Question have you ever
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  met any foreign presidents from countries not overseas such as
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  Canada or Mexico? Answer no, So you are not sexually
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  trafficked any foreign presidents? Is that correct answer? As far
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  as I know? Right now? Yes, question, it's correct that
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  you are not sexually trafficked to them, right answer. You've
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  asked me this three times and I'm telling you question, okay,
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  a well known prime minister. Were you sexually trafficked to
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  a well known prime minister? Answer? Yes, question who is that?
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  Ms McCauley. I'm going to object to this line of questioning.
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  This has to do with their safety concerns for her,
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  Miss Borgia Council. This is under seal. You can answer, McCauley. No,
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  she's not going to answer. The Special Master pipes on.
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  Hang on one second, McCauley, let me make my objection,
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  Special Master, make your objection, McCauley. Regardless of it being
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  under seal, we've seen that in this case the client
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  that you represent has violated confidentiality orders regularly, so we
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  have no sense of security with a sense that this
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  is confidential record at this point. We are doing that
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  under the court's order. With respect to naming individuals who
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  can harm a victim of sexual trafficking, she's a non
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  partied in this action, not a plaintiff. She is not
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  going to be revealing any names today of an individual
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  who is going to harm her physically. Period. If we
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  have to go to Judge Lynch on that we will.
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  I'm happy to do that. But she's not going to
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  be naming individuals where there's a threat to her safety.
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  Special Master response, Borgia, it's under seal. I'm shocked that
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  counsel would suggest that a Prime minister is threatening the
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  physical safety of this witness. There's no foundation for that.
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  The suggestion that a foreign minister is going to physically
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  harm has no evidence in this case and it's being
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  under seal. Let's get the evidence out while the witness
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  is here. As you pointed out, she's a non party.
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  Let's make a record and move on. Ms McCauley, you
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  may be shocked by that, but Special Master interrupts. Hang
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  on a second. The reason why I'm here is so
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  we don't have the back and forth. McCauley, sure, Special Master,
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  I'm going to rule on the objection. Your objection at
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  this point is overruled. You can answer, and I want
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  to admonish everybody here that this is a confidential and
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  protection of this witness is a paramount importance under the
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  confidentiality order. So Miss Roberts, you can answer that question
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  that's been asked. McCauley. At this point, we're going to
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  need to take a break because I'm not going to
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  allow her to answer the question that's going to threaten
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  her physical safety. So we can take a break on that. Virginia,
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  if I can just say, I personally know that this
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  is not a good person to talk about, and I'm
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  not going to point blank I'm not going to say
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  his name, Special Master. Okay, I can't twist her arm
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  and force her, so we'll do with it, Miss Borgia.
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  Question okay, any other world leaders that you are trafficked
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  to McCauley, we have the same objection, Special Master, and
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  I would have the same ruling based upon the arguments. McCauley.
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  Let me just make my record to the extent that
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  there's the name of an individual that you can reveal
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  that you do not feel would harm your physical safety.
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  You're welcome to reveal them anybody else. You don't have
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  to reveal it at this time, and we'll take that
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  to Judge Lynch. Answer, okay, Prince Andrew for one question
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  other than Prince Andrew. Answer, there's another individual that I
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  honestly do not know his name. Question what country is
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  he from? Answer? I'm not too sure. He's spoken a
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  foreign he didn't. He did speak foreign tongue. He spoke
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  English as well, but I'm not too sure where he
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  was from. Question how do you know he was a
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  world leader? Answer? I was introduced to him as a prince.
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  Question okay, did he have security with him? Answer? I'm
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  sure he did somewhere around, but not when I was
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  with him. Question did you see security? Answer? No? Question
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  where were you when you met him? Answer? On this
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  occasion the South of France. Question are there witnesses to
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  you being sexually trafficked to this Prince? Answer? Yes, question
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  name them? Answer Jeffrey Epstein, Glenn Maxwell. Question anyone else?
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  Answer there was a whole bunch of people in the room,
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  so of course. Question was this an orgy? Answer? No?
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  Question Who else was in the room? Answer? I can't
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  name all of them. There was a lot. Question name
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  as many as you can answer I don't know their names.
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  I can't name their names. Question they were president during
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  sexual activity? Answer? They were president before the sexual activity,
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  and then I went to have sexual activity with them alone.
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  Question so he's the only witness to your sexual activity?
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  The prince answer on the instructions of Epstein and Glaine. Yes.
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  Question Where in the South of France were you? Answer?
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  I don't know. Question were you on a boat? Were
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  you in a house? Answer we were at like a
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  not cabana, like a resort. But it was a big party.
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  Question who was throwing the party? Answer? I don't know.
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  I was just brought there. Question you also refer to
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  powerful business executive? Which powerful business executives were you sexually
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  trafficked to? Ms McAuley again, to the extent you can
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  reveal somebody without safety concern, You're welcome to do that.
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  Special Master. Well again, McCauley, right, I understand Special Master
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  Sam objection, Sam ruling answer and listen up out there,
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  everybody who thinks this is a one way street. George
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  Mitchell question, when were you sexually trafficked to George Mitchell answer,
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  I'm unable to give you a time, since we are
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  going back a very long time. Question. Tell me the
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  best that you can remember. Answer roughly when I was seventeen?
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  Question where were you? Answer? New Mexico and New York?
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  Question are their witnesses to this? Answer? Not the actual
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  event itself? Question? What are their powerful business executives were
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  you sexually trafficked to? Answer? This? Damn is redacted? Question?
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  Are there witnesses? Answer besides Epstein instructing me to do so?
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  No question what other powerful business executives that you were
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  sexually trafficked to? Answer? Yes, I know what you're saying. McCauley.
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  Take your time, take a deep breath. Answer redacted question
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  who else? McCauley, to the extent you recall answer, I'm
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  just trying to think. This is all very confronting for me,
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  So at the same token, I'm just trying to recollect everybody,
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  the Dubins, Glenn Dubin question you said the Dubins, Were
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  you sexually trafficked to more than one Duban? Answer? No question,
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  just to Glenn. Answer just to Glenn. Question is he
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  the powerful business executive whose pregnant wife was asleep in
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  the next room? Answer yes, question What other powerful business
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  executives were you sexually trafficked to? Answer? None that I
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  can remember off the top of my head. Question was
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  redacted one of the powerful business executives that you were
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  trafficked to? Answer? Yes, question so you can remember others?
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  Who else is there? McCauley, I'm going to object to that.
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  That's inappropriate. She gave you everyone she could remember at
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  the time when you mentioned the name special Master. Okay, okay,
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  please move on, Miss Borgia. There's a question pending. Virginia.
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  I said, yes, question what other powerful business executives? Answer?
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  Wasn't that? Just objected McCauley. You can answer answer I
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  can't remember off the top of my head. I'm sorry.
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  All right, folks, We're gonna wrap up right there and
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  in the next episode, we're gonna pick up where we
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  left off. All of the information that goes with this
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