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- 0:00Speaker 1: Gentlemen, thank you for the time. It's great to see you.
- 0:04Speaker 1: How are you? But I'm good. Everything's good to get
- 0:07Speaker 1: this draft here and uh let's get rolling. I'm ready
- 0:10Speaker 1: for it. It's the lead up to this thing is
- 0:12Speaker 1: so overblown, and probably more so this year than any
- 0:15Speaker 1: other year, because that's all we're doing. It's all we have.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Tony was selly with us. Are you in your backyard
- 0:21Speaker 1: with palm trees? Tony? Where are you? Yeah? I mean
- 0:23Speaker 1: I'm in the backyard. Well because I didn't have uh
- 0:26Speaker 1: as many books as you and uh Pete hadn't for
- 0:30Speaker 1: the background, I mean, it's a it's a complete facade.
- 0:34Speaker 1: You guys are trying to sell tho us that you
- 0:35Speaker 1: actually read. I know Pete can't read. By the way,
- 0:38Speaker 1: my picture there's my bobble head that my wife had
- 0:41Speaker 1: made for me a couple of years ago. I don't
- 0:42Speaker 1: look anything like me. You know what this is, though, Tony,
- 0:45Speaker 1: This bubble head, just from being in this room knows
- 0:48Speaker 1: more about the game than you do. So I mean
- 0:50Speaker 1: it has that much going. Well, you know what. You
- 0:52Speaker 1: know why that doesn't look like you at all because
- 0:54Speaker 1: it has a neck. But it's it's it's really a
- 0:57Speaker 1: thin me little taller than you. Pete too, I don't
- 1:01Speaker 1: know it is. I think I think it's I'm up
- 1:04Speaker 1: to its waists when I stand there side. But let's
- 1:07Speaker 1: talk Jaguars fellas. We'll get to the draft and your
- 1:10Speaker 1: thoughts and what's gonna happen tonight coming up a little
- 1:13Speaker 1: bit later, but let's start with the big news on
- 1:15Speaker 1: social media this week, Unique and got Way and Tony
- 1:18Speaker 1: Cohn going back and forth on Twitter. It caused to
- 1:21Speaker 1: stir certainly around Jacksonville. I know it did around in
- 1:24Speaker 1: the league as well. When you have a co owner
- 1:26Speaker 1: talking to a player during a contract dispute, Pete, that's
- 1:30Speaker 1: always noteworthy. Well it's noteworthy, but it's it's not a
- 1:33Speaker 1: good look for either side, to be honest with you. Um.
- 1:36Speaker 1: But you know, Unique went in there and he was
- 1:38Speaker 1: looking for a fight and he got one. So I
- 1:40Speaker 1: think when you when you ask for a fight and
- 1:43Speaker 1: you get a fight, you're a little surprised. I don't
- 1:45Speaker 1: think he was. He was a little shocked. I thinking, Uh,
- 1:48Speaker 1: the bottom line is what are his options and what
- 1:51Speaker 1: is he angry about? I asked that question all the time.
- 1:54Speaker 1: What are his issues with the organization. If it was
- 1:57Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, he's gone, So what's his issue? Not like
- 2:00Speaker 1: Doug Marone, he hasn't said take the money. He was
- 2:03Speaker 1: offered eighteen and a half million dollars. When he take
- 2:05Speaker 1: that right now? Probably not. He would be foolish if
- 2:07Speaker 1: he didn't take that. Well. I think the interesting thing
- 2:10Speaker 1: is it's I think, yeah, you never like to look
- 2:13Speaker 1: from either side, Pete. You're correct there. I think it
- 2:16Speaker 1: was worse for Unique because if you're a team and
- 2:20Speaker 1: you're watching this back and forth and engagement on social media.
- 2:23Speaker 1: I'm not saying it stops you from taking them, but
- 2:26Speaker 1: it's like, man, this is this is this a headache
- 2:28Speaker 1: that we're gonna be taken on? And I've never known
- 2:31Speaker 1: Unique to be that. That's why I was a litt
- 2:32Speaker 1: bit surprised by the interaction. Um but you're you and
- 2:36Speaker 1: I on the same page. I mean, take the money,
- 2:39Speaker 1: Um I I we've talked about this and and I'm curious.
- 2:45Speaker 1: I'd like to know, Pete. Maybe you've heard, is the
- 2:47Speaker 1: issue where they haven't moved them because no one's willing
- 2:50Speaker 1: to give them the one that they're asking for. Or
- 2:52Speaker 1: is it because no one's willing to pay unique what
- 2:55Speaker 1: he wants. It's a combination in the two tony you have.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I he's been out there, the rumors have been out there.
- 3:01Speaker 1: He's anybody wants to come get him. Nobody's coming got him.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I mean because nobody's given up a one and something,
- 3:08Speaker 1: and I think that's what they want, a one and something.
- 3:10Speaker 1: And and because if you give up a one and something,
- 3:13Speaker 1: then you also have to pay him. And if he's
- 3:15Speaker 1: not happy with the eighteen and a half million they
- 3:17Speaker 1: offered him here, what's he gonna be happy with in
- 3:19Speaker 1: another spot? So I think it's it's working against him.
- 3:23Speaker 1: And in the end, I'll be honest with you, I
- 3:25Speaker 1: think he's gonna have to be He's gonna have to
- 3:26Speaker 1: play for the tag. And people say, well, he's not
- 3:29Speaker 1: gonna play for the tag. He's made four of him right,
- 3:32Speaker 1: he's made four and a half million dollars in his
- 3:34Speaker 1: career and he can make a almost eighteen in one year.
- 3:37Speaker 1: If he gets his place not to play, then his
- 3:40Speaker 1: agents should be fired on the spot. Yeah, that's that's why.
- 3:43Speaker 1: It's the life changing money. I mean, that's the generational
- 3:45Speaker 1: money right there, and that's why he should I mean,
- 3:48Speaker 1: and we never really knew what the final offer was
- 3:50Speaker 1: last year because there's so many different reports out there.
- 3:53Speaker 1: But if he's you know, if it's an average of
- 3:56Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen and a half nineteen million dollars with you know,
- 3:59Speaker 1: fifty or anywhere near fifty guaranteed, I mean, that is like,
- 4:04Speaker 1: that's generational wealth. That and he's still a young man,
- 4:08Speaker 1: and so if he plays well, he's gonna get paid
- 4:11Speaker 1: big again. I think they overextended their hand a little bit, Tony.
- 4:15Speaker 1: I mean, look, Fowler had eleven and a half sacks
- 4:18Speaker 1: last year, more than more than he did, and he
- 4:21Speaker 1: got fifteen I think, or fifteen or sixteen on an average.
- 4:24Speaker 1: So Clowney was asking for twenty two and they left
- 4:27Speaker 1: at him and he's way down now. So they over
- 4:30Speaker 1: extended their hand. Now they have to go back and
- 4:32Speaker 1: try and regroup and get the a team. Pete Prisco
- 4:36Speaker 1: Tony Boselli with US Jaguars Happy Hour rolls along. The
- 4:39Speaker 1: other big topic this week before the draft at least,
- 4:42Speaker 1: is the status of Leonard four Nette and is he
- 4:45Speaker 1: a name that is under consideration for being moved before
- 4:48Speaker 1: or during the draft. That was reported earlier in the
- 4:51Speaker 1: week What are the chances of this happening Tony? Could
- 4:54Speaker 1: he go before the draft? Could he go during the draft?
- 4:57Speaker 1: Is this a done deal and we're just kind of
- 5:00Speaker 1: hearing about it? What do you think talking? Yeah, I
- 5:03Speaker 1: think it's I mean, where they're smoke, there's fire in
- 5:05Speaker 1: this situation. I think he is being shopped out there. Um.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And again I think it's about the compensation. What do
- 5:11Speaker 1: what do the Jaguars want? My guess is, uh, they're
- 5:15Speaker 1: not getting higher than the three I wouldn't expect because
- 5:18Speaker 1: it's his last year. I mean, maybe you can take
- 5:20Speaker 1: the fifth year. Um, but you know, a third fourth rounder?
- 5:24Speaker 1: You know, do you move him? If you're the Jaguars
- 5:27Speaker 1: he is in his last year of his contract. I
- 5:29Speaker 1: do not see them if he stays taking that fifth year.
- 5:32Speaker 1: And uh, I think, you know, I wonder what Leonard thinks.
- 5:35Speaker 1: I mean, is it maybe just time for both sides
- 5:37Speaker 1: to move on to another opportunity. But it would not
- 5:40Speaker 1: surprise me at all. But I think the deal needs
- 5:42Speaker 1: to get done before the draft because you know, after
- 5:45Speaker 1: that then there's no the sense of urgency is not
- 5:47Speaker 1: there any longer, because now you're talking about picks, picks
- 5:50Speaker 1: for next year. I'd give up a third for I
- 5:52Speaker 1: mean I if they if some team offered the third,
- 5:54Speaker 1: form might take it in an instant. Yeah, I don't
- 5:57Speaker 1: think they get it. I don't think they'll get a
- 5:58Speaker 1: third though. No, I don't either. I think it'll be
- 6:00Speaker 1: a five fourth. Yeah, would you take a five for him?
- 6:05Speaker 1: I don't know. If I would make him, might make
- 6:06Speaker 1: him play the year. The problem is clearly you want
- 6:10Speaker 1: to get them out of there for other reasons as well.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Well, there's all those reports that came out,
- 6:16Speaker 1: and that's not good either. I mean because you don't
- 6:18Speaker 1: want uh, I mean because teams No, I mean it's
- 6:23Speaker 1: not just it's you know, this isn't a static uh issue.
- 6:27Speaker 1: I mean, it's when you trade for a player. It's
- 6:30Speaker 1: not like all the stuff he was dealing with and
- 6:33Speaker 1: you know, the issues the other team had with him disappear.
- 6:36Speaker 1: It's not like all of a sudden, everything's fine now.
- 6:38Speaker 1: And so when that information starts, when you talked about
- 6:41Speaker 1: and other issues and everything else, teams take all that
- 6:44Speaker 1: no different when they than when they draft a player
- 6:46Speaker 1: and want the background information off the field, how the
- 6:49Speaker 1: teammate house in the locker room, YadA, YadA, YadA. Um.
- 6:52Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what what a team
- 6:55Speaker 1: would be willing to offer. But right now, I when
- 6:57Speaker 1: you think about it, you got to the better players
- 7:00Speaker 1: probably that you'd expect going into next year for your team,
- 7:04Speaker 1: both on the training block, and uh, it's gonna it's
- 7:07Speaker 1: an interesting offseason right now. Pete Prisco, Tony but Selly
- 7:11Speaker 1: with US Jaguars Happy Hour un Draft Night. Eight o'clock
- 7:15Speaker 1: the start time tonight for the NFL Draft first round,
- 7:18Speaker 1: and the Jaguars have the ninth overall and twenty overall
- 7:21Speaker 1: picks in this first round. I know that there's a
- 7:24Speaker 1: lot of picks before the Jaguars around the clock. Guys,
- 7:27Speaker 1: when I ask each of you, though, what is your gut?
- 7:30Speaker 1: What's going to happen at nine and twenty in a
- 7:32Speaker 1: perfect world? People start with you for the Jaguars, well,
- 7:35Speaker 1: are they going to be a lot of picks before
- 7:37Speaker 1: they pick? That's a good question. I mean, would they
- 7:40Speaker 1: be moving up to maybe go explore the possibility of
- 7:44Speaker 1: taking a player they have their eye on. I mean
- 7:46Speaker 1: that's always in the cards too. They have ammunition, they
- 7:48Speaker 1: have a ton of picks, and people will say, well,
- 7:50Speaker 1: why would you go up? Well, if you have an
- 7:52Speaker 1: idea you're like one of the quarterbacks, maybe you go up.
- 7:55Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility. If they're stuck at nine
- 7:58Speaker 1: and the draft board goes the way I think it
- 8:00Speaker 1: will go, I think they'll have a decision to make
- 8:02Speaker 1: between the corner probably C. J. Henderson or a Kuda,
- 8:06Speaker 1: because people in the league like Henderson more than a Kuda.
- 8:09Speaker 1: One of the left tackles. I think that's gonna be
- 8:11Speaker 1: their situation, or kid Law, and you keep here in
- 8:14Speaker 1: kid Law. Kid Law has some stuff and his you know,
- 8:17Speaker 1: injury issues that would be concerning. He plays high. I
- 8:20Speaker 1: think he's got a great upside, but could they swing
- 8:23Speaker 1: and take that chance with him? So I think they
- 8:25Speaker 1: play it safe in the most scenarios, and I think
- 8:28Speaker 1: they take C. J. Henderson slash left tackle who was
- 8:32Speaker 1: ever on the board. Yeah, I'm similar there at nine,
- 8:35Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I think that Derek Brown,
- 8:37Speaker 1: if he's there, will be there. You know, I don't
- 8:39Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there. I think that's who they like.
- 8:41Speaker 1: But we didn't think Josh Allen would be the seven
- 8:44Speaker 1: last year, and he felt now because of a series
- 8:46Speaker 1: of things. I pe, I get what you're saying, but
- 8:49Speaker 1: I do agree. I mean, I think the corner is
- 8:51Speaker 1: probably where they need to go and find some one
- 8:52Speaker 1: opposite Trey Herndon. They have a lack of depth at
- 8:55Speaker 1: that position, the starting and they have a lack of
- 8:56Speaker 1: starting caliber players at that position. UM. I'm still intrigued
- 9:00Speaker 1: with these tackles. But I think it's a pretty deep
- 9:03Speaker 1: tackle draft, and maybe in the second round a guy
- 9:06Speaker 1: like an Austin Jackson from USC who's very talented. I
- 9:09Speaker 1: didn't play up to the level of his ability while
- 9:12Speaker 1: at USC, but super talented. Uh, maybe you get a
- 9:15Speaker 1: guy like that in the second round to fill that
- 9:16Speaker 1: tackle position At twenty UM, I think they go and
- 9:19Speaker 1: find someone who can score touchdowns for him. I think
- 9:21Speaker 1: they need weapons. Um, And you know, I don't. You know,
- 9:26Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to tell who's gonna be there.
- 9:28Speaker 1: It's because when does the run on receivers start. I
- 9:32Speaker 1: actually think the run on tackles will be first. Um,
- 9:36Speaker 1: but wait and see. But I think it's a guy
- 9:37Speaker 1: who scores touchdowns. Tony, I know you haven't been as
- 9:40Speaker 1: into this draft for obvious reasons as you normally have.
- 9:43Speaker 1: You watched the tackles very little, Pete, just because you know, uh,
- 9:49Speaker 1: just all the reasons, you know what I mean, with
- 9:51Speaker 1: COVID and everything else, they're not having the access to
- 9:53Speaker 1: the uh stuff that I usually would. Um. I've watched
- 9:57Speaker 1: a little bit. I like the Beckham or Becca backup
- 10:00Speaker 1: kid uh Louisville, just because I think he's freakish. His
- 10:05Speaker 1: upside is huge. Uh, He's such a big man. Positive
- 10:09Speaker 1: at the combine. That's a concern though, not because he
- 10:11Speaker 1: smoked pop, but because he was foolish enough to test
- 10:14Speaker 1: positive at the combine. Right, Well, I mean that's an issue.
- 10:18Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but I mean Larry Tunsel was had
- 10:21Speaker 1: a gas mask on, you know, the night of the
- 10:24Speaker 1: draft or whatever. Yeah, he's do just fine. Um. I mean,
- 10:29Speaker 1: Thomas is probably the safest of those guys. I don't
- 10:34Speaker 1: know if he has the upside of the vectum from Louisville,
- 10:37Speaker 1: but he is really good athletic playing the great systems
- 10:39Speaker 1: of great conference against great competition, So I don't think
- 10:42Speaker 1: you'd go wrong there. But I do think it's a
- 10:44Speaker 1: deep draft. I'm interested to see where the kid from
- 10:46Speaker 1: USC goes. I mean, obviously because I'm partial, and I
- 10:48Speaker 1: watched him during the year. Um, I think he's athletic,
- 10:52Speaker 1: but you know, obviously didn't perform at the level those
- 10:54Speaker 1: other guys did. Yeah, I think there's not much difference
- 10:57Speaker 1: between the top four tackles, like, for example, if you
- 10:59Speaker 1: took back the one or back in four. I don't
- 11:01Speaker 1: think it would surprise anybody because Wills is pretty good.
- 11:04Speaker 1: But he plays right tackle worst as good. He's played
- 11:06Speaker 1: both right and left. I think he's a right tackle too.
- 11:09Speaker 1: But then you dropped down you mentioned Jackson. I'm not
- 11:10Speaker 1: sure he's going to the first round, Tony, you mentioned
- 11:12Speaker 1: being a project. I'll give you a name that probably
- 11:15Speaker 1: will go in the first round, Ezra Cleveland from Boise
- 11:18Speaker 1: And I went back and watch them against Florida State,
- 11:20Speaker 1: because you know Florida State. You know you're sorry, I
- 11:22Speaker 1: watched it. I watched it. He's good now, he's a
- 11:25Speaker 1: good player player. Ye. So, but I think Jacksonville will
- 11:30Speaker 1: take a tackle at some point in the first two rounds,
- 11:34Speaker 1: don't you agree? I I do agree, and I think
- 11:37Speaker 1: that I think that a guy like Austin Jackson will
- 11:39Speaker 1: be could be there at the top of the second
- 11:41Speaker 1: um and maybe you take him there because I do
- 11:44Speaker 1: think I think it's probably if I'm a betting man
- 11:46Speaker 1: at nine, it's corner. I just think they gotta address that.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And if Henderson or Acuta is there, I think they
- 11:52Speaker 1: take one of those. Less Brown is there, Brown's are
- 11:56Speaker 1: all better off. You're taking Brown. But your point, you know,
- 11:59Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying, what are these things gonna happen? Right?
- 12:01Speaker 1: I mean, I said last year, they take Josh Allen
- 12:03Speaker 1: if he's there, but I didn't think he's gonna be there,
- 12:05Speaker 1: and you know they took him. Um, And then I
- 12:09Speaker 1: do think they go to guys someone who score touchdowns.
- 12:12Speaker 1: You gotta get guys who score justin Jefferson might be
- 12:14Speaker 1: there because I don't think that. I think the run
- 12:17Speaker 1: on the receivers will happen like early twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
- 12:22Speaker 1: and fifteen. The first three guys will probably go who
- 12:25Speaker 1: do you like best? Who do you like like? Rugs
- 12:30Speaker 1: is he's Tyreek killed and you let me ask you this.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Feet you're sitting in twenty Ruggs is on the table
- 12:41Speaker 1: still at sixteen seventeen, trade Jacks go get him, Yes,
- 12:45Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, here's I mean,
- 12:49Speaker 1: this is a team we're talking about. Your unique might
- 12:51Speaker 1: not be here. Leonard Fordett might not be Your Clays
- 12:54Speaker 1: is gone. Um iford you know you tight end, but
- 12:58Speaker 1: it's a fifty fifty. What's gonna man? I mean, this
- 13:01Speaker 1: is a team where some of your best players are
- 13:04Speaker 1: gone or age or whatever, and you need to you
- 13:07Speaker 1: need to hit on this draft and you need guys
- 13:09Speaker 1: who can help you this year. If you expect to
- 13:12Speaker 1: try to make a run and uh improve over the
- 13:13Speaker 1: last year's schedule, think about this. If if jan is
- 13:17Speaker 1: gone and for Nett is gone, the two of the best,
- 13:20Speaker 1: maybe the two best players on the team are Alan
- 13:23Speaker 1: and Taylor, right, yeah, no, I mean yeah they are
- 13:30Speaker 1: the obviously. Yeah, but I would say, I mean, if
- 13:35Speaker 1: you're looking, okay, fair, yeah, okay, it's one of those three.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Two of them are two of the more second year players.
- 13:42Speaker 1: So the youth factor fellas. Thank you very much, Pete
- 13:47Speaker 1: Briscoe's CBS Sports senior writer Tony WASSELLI proud of the
- 13:50Speaker 1: Jaguars left tackle. Great to see you guys, and I
- 13:53Speaker 1: think this is the first time I know we've all
- 13:55Speaker 1: three of been on the air, but I thank you
- 13:57Speaker 1: two of it on the air together since the season.
- 13:59Speaker 1: So thank you. Yeah, so Pete, I'll see you. Uh,
- 14:03Speaker 1: I'll see you in uh seven months, seven months? Where's that? Yeah,
- 14:09Speaker 1: that's when we started the show again. Isn't it six months?
- 14:11Speaker 1: Five months? When do we start the show? Lose your
- 14:14Speaker 1: ability to count to? Yeah, you're listening, No wonder why
- 14:18Speaker 1: you no wonder why you're saying you're thirty pounds lighter.
- 14:20Speaker 1: You're lying about that. You don't not account to thirty. Yeah,
- 14:23Speaker 1: I gotta go see you see Yeah,