Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / New tariffs forced one Canadian business to halt U.S. sales
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So as we've been discussing, many Canadian businesses are trying
- 0:03Speaker 1: to navigate the ongoing trade tensions between Canada and the
- 0:07Speaker 1: United States, and that includes my next guest. His company
- 0:10Speaker 1: manufactures golf carts and low-speed vehicles, which are now subject
- 0:15Speaker 1: to the 50% tariff as of today. Jeff Halomas is
- 0:19Speaker 1: the CEO of Similo Customs, and we've reached him in Spelmachin,
- 0:24Speaker 1: British Columbia. Thank you for making time for us today.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me.
- 0:28Speaker 1: So 50% U.S. tariffs on golf carts and similar motor
- 0:33Speaker 1: vehicles are now in effect as of midnight today, earlier
- 0:37Speaker 1: this morning. How is that impacting your business?
- 0:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's certainly an interesting scenario. You know,
- 0:45Speaker 2: we've kind of seen with the tariffs progressing, we've kind
- 0:50Speaker 2: of made a decision earlier on to kind of shift
- 0:52Speaker 2: away from that market and really focus back home. And so,
- 0:58Speaker 2: you know, we're just playing it kind of day by
- 1:00Speaker 2: day in that regard, but really shifting our focus back
- 1:02Speaker 2: to Canada at this time.
- 1:04Speaker 1: What have you seen so far when it comes to
- 1:06Speaker 1: the impact of tariffs in the US market?
- 1:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for us, you know, as an example,
- 1:13Speaker 2: we shipped a vehicle to the University of Chicago several
- 1:17Speaker 2: months ago. And it was kind of a minor tariff
- 1:20Speaker 2: that we could certainly absorb at about $ 450 to do that.
- 1:24Speaker 2: And about a month and a half later, we shipped
- 1:26Speaker 2: one to a customer in Hawaii, and it was a $ 4, 800 tariff.
- 1:31Speaker 2: So it's very unpredictable. So we've just done a company-wide
- 1:35Speaker 2: policy on, at this time, not shipping to the U.S.
- 1:38Speaker 2: and not selling to that market because we just can't
- 1:41Speaker 2: predict what the outcome is going to be cost-wise. And
- 1:44Speaker 2: having to absorb that tariff is just not realistic at
- 1:46Speaker 2: this time.
- 1:47Speaker 1: How much does that cut into your business?
- 1:51Speaker 2: Well, we were shipping about 25% of our vehicles down
- 1:54Speaker 2: to the U.S. So, you know, it certainly does cut
- 1:58Speaker 2: into the business. However, what we're seeing on the flip
- 2:01Speaker 2: side is we're getting reached out to buy a lot
- 2:04Speaker 2: of golf courses in the fleet market, which we didn't
- 2:08Speaker 2: necessarily have because they were focusing on kind of those
- 2:11Speaker 2: legacy companies from the U.S., But we've now given Canada,
- 2:15Speaker 2: you know, fleet operators and golf course operators another option
- 2:19Speaker 2: so that they don't have to go down south and
- 2:21Speaker 2: they can keep their money here in Canada.
- 2:24Speaker 1: So in terms of expanding, pivoting, sort of restructuring, if
- 2:28Speaker 1: you call it that, in order to account for that
- 2:31Speaker 1: 25% of your business that used to perhaps ship to
- 2:33Speaker 1: the United States, where are you looking now? Aside from
- 2:36Speaker 1: domestic markets, is there international expansion?
- 2:40Speaker 2: Yeah, there is actually. Our focus now is the European market.
- 2:44Speaker 2: So we're going through, we're in early stages going through
- 2:46Speaker 2: to have our manufacturing company approved to a European standard
- 2:53Speaker 2: so our vehicles can drive on the roads and meet
- 2:57Speaker 2: the European requirements there. We do have street legal approval
- 3:01Speaker 2: here in Canada. And it crosses over quite well with
- 3:04Speaker 2: the European regulations and requirements. So it's not, you know,
- 3:08Speaker 2: a big hurdle, but it is still a process. And
- 3:11Speaker 2: that's where we're shifting our focus to is Europe currently.
- 3:14Speaker 1: When we think about the supports that have been announced
- 3:17Speaker 1: by the government so far for businesses that have been
- 3:20Speaker 1: impacted by the trade war, by tariffs, has your sort
- 3:24Speaker 1: of industry or sector seen a lot of support? Has
- 3:27Speaker 1: it been enough?
- 3:29Speaker 2: So we've certainly seen some support. It's never, you know, unfortunately,
- 3:33Speaker 2: it's never cut and dry with how it's done. There's
- 3:36Speaker 2: a lot of paperwork and a lot of hoops to
- 3:38Speaker 2: jump through to get that. And, you know, most of
- 3:42Speaker 2: the time it obviously comes with payback terms and things
- 3:46Speaker 2: like that, which, you know, which is fine. We don't
- 3:48Speaker 2: expect handouts. So, you know, it certainly helps and we
- 3:54Speaker 2: appreciate it. And, you know, our company and my mindset
- 3:58Speaker 2: are of those is a mindset of, you know, we
- 4:02Speaker 2: keep our head down and keep going forward and we
- 4:06Speaker 2: react to what is sent our way.
- 4:08Speaker 1: In terms of the way that you are perceiving this
- 4:11Speaker 1: shift and this change that your company is now facing,
- 4:14Speaker 1: I'm wondering, are you thinking that this is something that
- 4:17Speaker 1: is permanent or something that's temporary? We've seen the U.S.
- 4:20Speaker 1: president double down, but then also remove tariffs. I mean,
- 4:24Speaker 1: how are you? I guess, navigating that.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, to put any confidence in
- 4:32Speaker 2: what's happening currently and, you know, in the politics is
- 4:35Speaker 2: pretty tough to, you know, to have any solid foundation
- 4:38Speaker 2: on that. So we're of the mindset now that we're
- 4:41Speaker 2: really going to shift our focus here to Canada. You know,
- 4:46Speaker 2: Canada is a country with a lot of opportunity, especially,
- 4:51Speaker 2: you know, in the golf course industry, there's over 2000
- 4:54Speaker 2: golf courses across Canada. And they all need golf cards.
- 4:57Speaker 2: So that's something we hadn't focused on so much in
- 5:00Speaker 2: the past. And, you know, I think that's going to
- 5:03Speaker 2: be our our our focus going forward and not worry
- 5:08Speaker 2: so much about the flip flopping of what's going on
- 5:10Speaker 2: with tariffs and kind of the politics. I'm not very
- 5:13Speaker 2: political myself. So we just we just forward, you know,
- 5:16Speaker 2: march forward and keep going.
- 5:18Speaker 1: In terms of the golf industry here, because you said
- 5:20Speaker 1: that that's something that you're focusing on now. Previously, was
- 5:23Speaker 1: there a lot of supply coming in from the United States?
- 5:26Speaker 1: And is there a pivot there that is helping you?
- 5:30Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, everything was coming in from the
- 5:32Speaker 2: United States. We are the only Canadian golf cart manufacturer.
- 5:36Speaker 2: We've been doing it for 16 years, but really only
- 5:39Speaker 2: got into the fleet side of it. So supplying to
- 5:41Speaker 2: courses last year when our local course here ordered 160
- 5:46Speaker 2: vehicles from us. And it was based on the fact of,
- 5:49Speaker 2: you know, the politics and the tariffs and everything that's
- 5:51Speaker 2: going on. So in one way, it's actually, you know,
- 5:55Speaker 2: the shift has been beneficial for us and helped us align,
- 6:00Speaker 2: you know, with the courses and also, you know, the
- 6:05Speaker 2: courses and even our individual customers are wanting, you know,
- 6:09Speaker 2: a Canadian product based on what's going on right now.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Jeff, I want to thank you for joining us today.
- 6:16Speaker 1: We appreciate your insight.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Great. I enjoyed being here. Thank you.
- 6:21Speaker 1: That is Jeff Halomas. He is the CEO of Similo Customs.