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Revolutionize Your Health with Red Light - Episode 310 · Gladden Longevity Podcast

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  So think about this people, your body's absorbing all these different wavelengths of light and we're talking about light guys, both visible and invisible.
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  So if you think about the power of
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  or the elements that can truly heal the human body.
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  We go back to fundamentals and basics.
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  In my case, I represent, what I understand, what I enjoy is the elements of the earth.
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  What is that?
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  Light, magnetism, and oxygen.
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  The reason why people are typically overweight, especially in the US with all these chemicals and toxins and preservatives, it's a nightmare, people, more so than you even
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  realize.
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  So what does that mean?
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  We have inflammation.
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  The reason why most people have this insulin sensitivity is
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  and overweight is because of number one, inflammation.
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  Welcome everybody to this edition of the Gladden Longevity Podcast.
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  I'm your host, Dr.
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  Jeffrey Gladden.
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  And we're here today answering the big questions in life.
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  How good can we be?
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  How do we make 100 to new 30?
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  How do we live young for a lifetime?
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  How do we live well beyond 120?
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  And how do we develop that 300 year old mind?
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  And today I'm going to be interviewing a gentleman, Dr.
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  Michael Ranzouli out of Florida, who
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  has really been focused on the development of red light therapy, also hyperbaric therapy, but this conversation is really going to focus on red light therapy and we're going to go
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  deep on GLP-1s, weight loss, how it should be done effectively.
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  I think you're going to enjoy this conversation.
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  was more than I was actually anticipating.
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  So enjoy that.
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  Welcome everybody to this edition of the Gladden longevity podcast.
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  I'm your host, Dr.
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  Jeffrey Gladden.
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  And today I'm joined by the one and the only Dr.
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  Mike Ranzouli.
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  Mike is coming to us out of, really kind of the North Miami, South Palm beach area, someplace on the West coast, East coast of Florida rather Mike.
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  are you?
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  Good to have you.
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  Pleasure.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  Yeah.
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  So I had the opportunity to go over and visit Mike's office and see some of the equipment that he has.
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  And we're to end up talking about some of that.
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  He's written a book about it.
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  And Mike, tell us a little bit about how did you get into health care in general?
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  Give us a little bit of your background.
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  You were five years old and you said when I grew up, I want to be in the health care space.
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  Or how did that happen?
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  that's a very good question.
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  So I remember when I was like literally five, six years old, I was walking down the street with my uncle who's in the healthcare world is a doctor and all of sudden we turned around
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  and we heard this boom, crash, turn around and this guy down the block got hit.
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  It was a pedestrian got hit by a car.
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  My uncle went running over to him.
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  and was doing CPR.
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  And I remember somebody called the police and the ambulance and they showed up and I'll never, ever, ever forget.
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  The paramedic looked me in the eye and is like, you're wrong.
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  Who is this?
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  This is my uncle.
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  He saved his life.
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  He saved his life.
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  And so that obviously left a deep, deep impact on me.
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  And he took me under his wing after that and even more so into the whole healthcare space.
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  That's my initial, like, know, that crowning moment, which kind of defines.
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  Yeah, that's really interesting.
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  A lot of people don't have that moment that early.
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  Some people do, of course.
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  Some people pick it up when they're, you know, in double digits, but not yet a teenager.
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  And other people pick it up in high school or college or, you know, have some experience, some health exposure experience or whatever.
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  It's interesting that it started so young for you.
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  So you've really been on this path and your, your background, you went down several different,
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  has of study, you've gone to, just explain that to the audience, you, what your background is there.
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  it or not, I was eventually...
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  So I originally, I was all groomed to go to DO school, which I'm sure, you're a DO, right?
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  Are you a DO?
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  No, you're an MD at CORE.
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  So, So I was originally groomed to go to DO school because my close friend, her father was, lived right down the block from me when were in high school together, was in school
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  together.
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  Her father was the president of the state society of osteopathic physicians.
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  So I was gonna, I was...
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  on track with my friend we were studying.
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  was on track.
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  Turns out that my sister had an experience and she had her life transformed and she became a chiropractor so wholistic also.
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  She was a few years ahead of me and she just said and studied.
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  What happened is I went to a lot of hospitals I was volunteering in, emergency rooms and physicians office and
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  I would ask these doctors, tell me how you like your life.
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  Just tell me about your life.
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  And they were all disillusioned.
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  frustrated and burnt out.
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  So I'm like, if I really want this, I really stopped doing this.
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  to jump in on that, right?
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  So my sister was like seeing his patients are happy.
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  She's happy.
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  She's has a real sense of professional fulfillment.
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  So, you know, I was struck with this idea of.
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  If you know the whole-
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  Holistic chiropractic velocity is allow the body to heal itself remove the interference remove all the obstacles that stimulate genuine authentic Homeostasis bring in balance and
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  so that's what happens.
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  I want to know I wound up becoming
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  extremely successful helping many many people seeing a lot of people but then like a lot of docs especially this is back 20 years ago I got burnt down with the whole insurance
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  paradigm so for those of you who are anyone watching this podcast likely understands if you're following the talk that you'll add in here but anyone understands that the
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  insurance model is
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  based on sick care, not health care.
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  So it's just like you're on a hamster wheel.
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  You're not seeing true results in patients.
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  That's right.
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  So you left all that.
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  When did you leave?
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  When did you leave that world?
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  That was back in 2011.
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  So I had, I got burnt out with the insurance thing and I was, I had a colleague friend of mine say, get into anti-aging cash-based services and say, get away from insurance, get
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  out of that burner, get out of like, go back to your original roots of why you're in healthcare to be able to help people.
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  that's why we're here, truly.
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  So I got in, I tried things and failed, tried this and failed and then I got into
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  red light therapy back in 2011 when no one even knew what it was.
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  I got lucky and I have a UK based manufacturer and I've learned of helping doing being so successful right off the bat helping all these people in such a significant meaningful
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  way.
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  I started sharing it with colleagues wound up becoming the exclusive distributor for that UK based manufacturer was called Lipo light red light.
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  It was before ahead of its time.
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  Now, red light everyone knows about and talks about because there's thousands and thousands of studies later.
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  So this is all evidence-based.
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  So it does everything from like shrink bad cells to stimulate balance in the hormones.
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  So a lot of the things that you are doing to help achieve optimization in brain energy metabolism and inflammation and neurocognitive, news flash everyone, there's thousands of
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  studies showing
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  that these technologies, these new innovations in anti-aging and wellness medicine can absolutely transform the quality of your life.
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  Yeah, I don't think there's, I don't think there's any question about that.
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  think it's interesting you were in so early on this.
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  I know I kind of stepped away from cardiology in 2012.
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  So you were, you kind of stepped into this about the same time, same, same, same era, if you will.
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  think so it's interesting you got into the red light therapy and then you,
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  There's some special things about the red light bed that you currently use.
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  ah Tell us about that, how that compares to other red light beds, things that you've seen.
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  So ladies and gentlemen who are listening to this, you happen to be listening to somebody who has deep, deep, deep experience.
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  And so as you might imagine doing this for this length, I'm obsessed not just with like you, we're so similar, Doug.
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  I'm obsessed with results.
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  And what separates a lot of these technologies is kind of sort of maybe
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  Results versus my god outstanding consistent results So let's share with you with what separates say for instance the kind of the top tier technology that I Step put my heart
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  and stamp of approval behind which is basically we can announce through your audience I mean we're layering these technologies Into you have the into your practice, so you're
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  gonna appreciate this isn't just
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  here's this new technology that really is good.
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  You're dealing with the best of the best of the best.
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  What does that mean?
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  There's a lot of great options on the market, but it comes down to some key things.
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  Number one has to do with even the design of the bed.
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  If you look at most beds, like I was just speaking to...
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  oh
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  One of my practitioners has one of my competitors.
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  So the thing is like two feet above the patient's body, for instance.
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  And you go into a red light bed, and there's something called an inverse square law, people.
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  And what does that mean?
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  If you have two different light sources, one is, say, twice as far away from the patient's body as the other.
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  Well, that person is twice as far away from the source of the light.
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  He's only getting one fourth of the energy.
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  into the body three times its way it's only a it's only a ninth so what does that mean most of these bends that I see on the market it's just it's you're there losing all of its
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  effectiveness because it's too far away okay that that device needs to be super close so have you noticed Oz how well designed it is it's right on top of the body it's super close
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  both above and below the other thing to separate us is
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  Just to give you an idea, like I mentioned to you, this is not about, oh, here's this cool red light device.
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  Yeah, it stimulates skin and collagen.
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  I'm about an experiential result every single time for the patient.
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  Every single time.
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  So this isn't like, wow, I think I kind of sort of maybe got some, know.
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  It's like, wow, thank you, please, may I have enough?
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  It's like, it's...
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  So your patients, for instance, or people who understand this and utilize it, it's game changing.
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  It's game changing.
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  It's true.
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  It's deep.
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  bed has a power element to it as well.
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  When I went over and had a chance to use it a couple of times in a day, in addition to some other things, it was a 10 minute protocol, right?
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  So.
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  That's correct.
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  So if you notice most of the red light technologies out there, they'll say 20 minutes and some even 30.
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  So if you look at, if you understand the science and look at the power outage, there's something called a power density.
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  So what does that mean?
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  Well, this is international, so it's measured in, instead of energy per square inch, it's energy measured in per square centimeter.
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  So per centimeter squared,
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  You look at technology, the GoFundMe say 10, 20, maybe up to 30, or 50, 80.
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  Just to give you an idea of the intensity and the power and the, it's measured in this power density measurement per square centimeter, ours is up to 125 to 140.
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  Okay.
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  So this is like wow level.
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  It's like walking into a room.
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  and having nice ambient light there that may be a comparison to somebody else.
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  now you turn the dim switch all the way up.
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  so now it's the number of photons.
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  It's the quantity of...
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  energy that the body is absorbing.
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  the intensity, amount, it's called joules.
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  So this technology is measured in over 10 million joules in a 10 minute session.
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  So it's like, wow, it's off the chain.
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  And what does that mean?
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  It's all about results.
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  True results, lasting results, deep results.
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  So when you're in that level, when you're playing in that sandbox, it becomes a lot of fun.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  You know, when you're talking about intensity and power density and things like that, they're kind of different.
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  Just so the audience understands, they're kind of different power densities out there related to what you're treating.
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  So, you know, if you're treating skin,
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  lower densities, 10 to 50 is typically what's used for deeper tissues though you want between 50 and 200.
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  If you get over 250 or 300 milliwatts per centimeter squared, can actually go the other direction.
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  So everything is in medicine and in biology is really based on balance, right?
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  And so it's about getting the Goldilocks dose, if you will.
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  But what's interesting is with the power that you have in your bed, it can have some dramatic impact on brain function, joint function, muscle function, things like that.
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  So that's pretty interesting.
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  What I would recommend for anybody listening to this, a couple of quick things.
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  Number one, absolutely, yes, this does help for brain function, joint function pain, inflammation, neurocognitive levels.
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  If you're out there and your family members, you're listening to this and you're thinking, wow, do you mean to tell me this can help grandpa, grandma, or somebody I care about?
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  The answer is absolutely.
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  That's why Dr.
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  Gladden here is such an important voice to let people understand, guess what?
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  Yes, this is truly...
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  potential solution.
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  We didn't have this.
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  Our families didn't have this growing up, but guess what?
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  We have it now.
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  and you're a beautiful example of how you're helping many people in such a sincere way.
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  yes, this is possible.
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  Yes, do it now too.
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  If I can share my thought with anyone considering looking at their options, don't wait.
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  Don't wait.
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  The best time to do it is already.
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  Second best time is right now, for real.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Well, yeah, I think that's true in health in general is there's no time like the present really It's never gonna be easier or better.
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  You have a number of different uh Wavelengths inside your bed as well.
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  I'm not mistaken 660 maybe in there.
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  I think there's a nine.
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  I don't have the numbers right in front of me.
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  I don't know if you can rattle them off, but it's a It's about five or six different uh
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  frequencies, And they each, yeah, and they each, yeah, go ahead.
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  Now go ahead, walk us through it.
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  Well, we start with red light.
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  Red light is a particular wavelength.
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  You know, just like the whole spectrum of electromagnetic visible light, right?
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  If you remember from high school or even medical school, red, orange, yellow.
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  So these are all different wavelengths.
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  Okay, this is the size of the wavelengths.
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  These are measured in the length of the wavelengths, okay?
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  So red happens to be 630 to like you mentioned, 655 ish.
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  This is red light, it's visible light.
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  The energies from the red light are typically more superficial.
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  So what does it do?
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  More stimulating new collagen.
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  It's incredible people.
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  For those of you who haven't seen it or understand it yet, understand that the red light's incredibly, especially on this bed.
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  This is not like a normal bed.
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  This bed is hospital grade, the real deal superpower.
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  So this bed, you're stimulating intense amount of collagen, you're stimulating.
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  So what does this mean?
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  You have saggy skin.
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  If you're one of these ozempic patients or whatever who have a lot of saggy skin.
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  Well, instead of cutting it off, which some cases it may, need to be, I'm not totally opposed to it, but.
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  If you're just the average amount, it tightens the skin up under your arms.
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  Your décolleté, collagen, elastin, your cellulite.
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  Okay, this is effective.
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  It works beautifully and it's hands free.
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  So that's red light.
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  It does more superficial.
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  Then we have near-infrared, which is actually invisible to the human eye.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  That's more like about 800 to 880 nanometers.
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  ah In near infrared.
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  is invisible to the human eye.
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  Like some people say, look at these diodes on this bed, it looks like it's not even upright.
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  It's invisible, penetrates a lot more deeply into the body.
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  So it goes into the deeper visceral fat.
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  So think about this people, your body's absorbing all these different wavelengths of light and we're talking about light guys, both visible and invisible.
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  So if you think about the power of
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  or the elements that can truly heal the human body.
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  We go back to fundamentals and basics.
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  In my case, I represent, what I understand, what I enjoy is the elements of the earth.
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  What is that?
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  Light, magnetism, and oxygen.
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  So these are fundamental earth's elements, Light, magnetism, and oxygen.
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  Yeah, that's right.
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  the light is red light with different wavelengths that...
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  Listen people, what this does...
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  Let me give it to you like this.
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  It energizes the biology.
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  It energizes your biochemistry.
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  It up-regulates.
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  It shifts.
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  Yeah, can I regulate ATP production uh in the mitochondria, which can energize other repairs?
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  It is interesting that as you change the wavelength and the depth of penetration changes from sort of superficial for skin, as you were talking about, into the near infrared,
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  where it can go two to three centimeters in, right?
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  So think about that.
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  can go, you know, an inch into the skin.
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  You can actually get through the skull into the brain.
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  You can
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  You can use it in conjunction with other healing therapies for joints.
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  This is sometimes done with laser too at a particular wavelength that's focused on areas.
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  And then uh there are helmets that people put on to do red light for the brain.
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  There's been a lot of studies using this for optimizing cognitive ability and also decreasing dementia risk.
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  We've been used.
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  if you stop and really think about this.
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  You know, here's what's cool to understand.
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  This is having real results on real people.
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  It's a beautiful thing.
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  You know, there's thousands and thousands of studies.
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  initially, like I'm thinking of this, some patient right now, this lady, a beautiful soul, she was literally 200 pounds.
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  I know it's like what?
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  In her case, we, some offices were working with GLP-1 doctors.
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  That means they're already doing this trisipatide and semaglutide.
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  But now they want to integrate these types of this technology specifically, for instance, for weight loss.
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  Most of the physicians and clinics, they're into the whole anti-aging and longevity medicine aspect of it, similar to you.
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  the number one typical use with low hanging fruit, so to speak, is weight loss.
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  Why is that?
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  75%.
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  It's gone up in the last five.
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  eight years from 70 to 75 percent of Americans either will be some overweight.
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  So we got a major problem.
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  isn't it, when you walk through an airport?
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  And it does depend on where you are in the country.
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  I will say that, you know, it's different in Denver than it is in uh Dallas, Texas, or New Orleans, or even Miami for that matter, right?
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  So, but yeah, it's become an absolute epidemic of obesity and obesity-related metabolic problems like
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  prediabetes, diabetes, insulin resistance, lots of hormonal issues, increased oxidative stress, which accelerates aging in dramatic ways.
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  And when you're using this red light, and you're using it at the right wavelengths here, you not only are increasing ATP production, but you can actually decrease oxidative
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  stress.
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  At the same time that you're increasing nitric oxide release, which is important for blood vessel health.
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  So there's some really nice interplay here in terms of if you're trying to take somebody who's metabolically challenged, let's say they're overweight, have too much percent body
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  fat and they feel sluggish all the time, you can actually sort of in conjunction with other therapies.
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  And we could talk about GOP1s, what they can do, what they can't do, what you have to be careful of.
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  Nonetheless, if you can actually get somebody to start feeling energized again, then they are able to start walking, then they're able to start doing this or whatever.
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  Right.
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  So it's really it's really kind of developing a system that enables you to take somebody from a place where they have no energy.
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  They're sedentary.
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  They're obese or overweight.
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  They're eating poorly.
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  .
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  And then through a series of interventions, one of which can be things like red light, serial uh red light bed exposures, you can actually start to move them to a point where
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  they can actually start to activate other, what we would all consider more healthy habits.
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  They have more willpower to eat better.
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  They have more willpower to go for a walk and things like that, right?
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  So it's a really, the way I see it is it's almost like a rescue.
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  kind of scenario, right?
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  It's like backing up a tow truck to a vehicle that's stuck in the mud and you've got to hitch on the hooks and stuff and you've got to start to move it until it can start to move
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  on its own, right?
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  And then it can also help get itself out of the ditch, right?
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  yeah, interesting.
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  what's exciting is...
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  We're taking them off the hamster wheel of just masking the symptoms and getting to root cause.
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  Hello, this is where patients are getting smarter and smarter.
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  They're not buying into the whole, let me just stay on meds forever, okay?
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  There's looking for people like you to do precision medicine, looking to how to shift certain specific biologies.
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  Well, here's this other toll.
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  So here's what happens.
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  We're talking about results, and gentlemen, okay?
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  This isn't esoteric.
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  This isn't like, you know, a bunch of...
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  people just talking about potential, we're talking about real life results.
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  So what does that mean?
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  This is real hope.
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  This stuff is legit.
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  And so that's what I'm about.
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  That's what you're about.
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  And in my case with BioNTH and this technology and the way we do it.
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  One other thing I wanted to add, it just works.
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  It works like a charm.
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  It works consistently.
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  It's a beautiful, beautiful thing for weight loss, for wellness.
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  frequency that you have people come and use your bed?
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  How often, how many times a week are they doing it?
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  So it depends on the condition and depends on the scenario obviously.
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  It's not necessarily, it's not a cookie cutter thing, but just to give you an idea.
• 24:47
  So the way we do weight loss is completely different than anything else on the market.
• 24:52
  That is, say you're on GLP.
• 24:55
  can do the same thing without, but say you're taking a summer glute tire, you're taking one of those skinny shot of Zempix, right?
• 25:03
  Like millions and millions of Americans who are.
• 25:06
  you're on it, guess what?
• 25:07
  You probably know that number one, most people don't stay on it.
• 25:11
  The statistics, if you look at the insurance companies, the average person is only on that for a year.
• 25:17
  And then they come up and guess what happens?
• 25:19
  They go back.
• 25:20
  So we're dealing with the same, it's not a solution.
• 25:23
  It's not a true, true solution.
• 25:24
  I mean, you're speaking to somebody who gets it and loves it.
• 25:26
  And I understand specifically to Zepetine, it has many metabolic effects, the whole sugar handling and.
• 25:32
  But all I'm suggesting is the way we do is like this.
• 25:36
  We can start them on that, the patients already on that, great.
• 25:39
  But then we introduce a full body cellular detoxification process.
• 25:43
  What does that mean?
• 25:44
  The reason why people are typically overweight, especially in the US with all these chemicals and toxins and preservatives, it's a nightmare, people, more so than you even
• 25:54
  realize.
• 25:55
  So what does that mean?
• 25:55
  We have inflammation.
• 25:57
  The reason why most people have this insulin sensitivity is
• 26:01
  and overweight is because of number one, inflammation.
• 26:04
  So we start there.
• 26:06
  We pull out the inflammation extremely effectively.
• 26:09
  Okay, what we do it, we just do it right.
• 26:11
  It's a blueprint.
• 26:13
  It's a system.
• 26:14
  It's a follow the elder growth.
• 26:16
  Shut off the inflammation.
• 26:17
  You release all the weight loss resistance.
• 26:19
  that whether you're on the GLP or not.
• 26:22
  So then the weight stabilizes.
• 26:24
  We take you off the GLP.
• 26:25
  We transition you off and then you do more red lights.
• 26:28
  So you're continuing.
• 26:30
  After the red light, you go on the vibration platform, the shaker machine to stimulate all the lymphatic drainage, get the toxins out of the body.
• 26:40
  So the red light opens that fat cell, releases it, all the constituents spill out, the whole cell collapses and shrinks.
• 26:48
  Then you go on that shaker machine for just 10 minutes, easy breezy, in conjunction with the detox.
• 26:54
  And we also combine this and layer this with, as you know, I have a mind tap.
• 26:58
  So it's a serious is basically.
• 27:00
  It's basically hypnotherapy for those of you who are more spiritual, which I am, but it's just, you're, you're filling your, your sub you're stepping in.
• 27:10
  You're filling your subconscious mind with new ideas about eating healthier.
• 27:16
  A lot of people have bad habits, like you say, so this is a key component.
• 27:20
  So red light, detox, and then we give the body the nutrients it needs.
• 27:26
  In our case, we use sublingual, so it's easy breezy and it goes right into the bloodstream.
• 27:30
  It's full absorption.
• 27:31
  This works great.
• 27:33
  We taper them off a couple of times back and forth, and then we do a full cellular reset, a hypothalamic reset.
• 27:40
  We're resetting that part of the brain that controls the metabolism.
• 27:44
  Basically, people, it's a fat reset.
• 27:48
  And how do you actually accomplish the hypothalamic reset in this context?
• 27:53
  Well, they come in for their sessions of red light.
• 27:56
  You mentioned how many.
• 27:57
  Our offices, you have to typically do it once a week.
• 28:00
  Come in for red light once a week.
• 28:03
  And the way our beds are designed, it's more automated.
• 28:06
  So these patients go in and out.
• 28:08
  There's no tech needed.
• 28:09
  It's a beautiful thing.
• 28:10
  It's easy breezy.
• 28:12
  It's simple, works.
• 28:13
  So they come in once a week.
• 28:15
  Most offices will, depending on how their business model is,
• 28:20
  It can come up to three times, three, four times a week.
• 28:23
  Got it.
• 28:24
  Okay.
• 28:25
  short treatment time, so it's easy breezy.
• 28:27
  You're in and out.
• 28:29
  It's 10 minutes, basically.
• 28:31
  10 minute protocol.
• 28:33
  Yeah.
• 28:34
  think about what other modality, what other treatment, if you have a laser, right?
• 28:40
  We all know a laser, the image when a laser and what this light is, is a laser, it could be the same frequency, but it's just, it's focused, it's coherent light they call it.
• 28:50
  But once that light goes through the skin, it diffuses anyway.
• 28:53
  So LEDs is just a much better solution.
• 28:56
  It's a lot more energy, it's full body, it's non-attended.
• 29:00
  more intensity.
• 29:01
  It's just a smarter, better way.
• 29:03
  And with the detox, you're getting some detox through the, actually being in the, in the red, in the red light in the near infrared is, um, helping to activate detox.
• 29:15
  We have ways to up-regulate detox gene genetics.
• 29:18
  Also, one of things that we do is do genetic testing on everybody to see who detox as well and where they get stuck on that.
• 29:26
  depending on what their genes show us, can put them on different supplements to actually upregulate the...
• 29:32
  So that's one of the beautiful things about what you do.
• 29:35
  You do what's precision medicine.
• 29:38
  Somebody's got a detox malfunctioning gene, know, diseases as you know is often a lack of certain nutrients, so you supply that and so that pathway gets activated,
• 29:52
  That's right.
• 29:53
  It gets activated.
• 29:54
  can manage the oxidative stress that goes along with inflammation.
• 29:58
  One of the reasons inflammation is bad is because it causes excess oxidative stress at the tissue level.
• 30:03
  So then we can optimize a person's ability to manage oxidative stress.
• 30:08
  Also, there's a genetic component and then there's nutritional components, et cetera.
• 30:13
  I'm actually giving a webinar on this tomorrow.
• 30:17
  it's oxidative stress.
• 30:21
  Yeah.
• 30:22
  So.
• 30:22
  guess what?
• 30:23
  All your beautiful patients who were indicated you have a superpower tool to shut off that oxygen, to slow it all down.
• 30:34
  Yeah, I'm excited to use the red light bed in conjunction with the other things we're doing, because I think that it's all going to sort of dovetail together.
• 30:42
  biology really responds to systematic approaches.
• 30:45
  It's technically not just one thing.
• 30:48
  for mon why say it again, doc
• 30:51
  Systematic approaches, right?
• 30:53
  So this is one of the problems with uh just relying on a GLP-1.
• 30:57
  And I'm not here to bash them because there is, you know, they were quite an interesting medicine.
• 31:03
  They basically have shown significant benefits for diabetics with regards to congestive heart failure, cardiovascular events, protecting kidneys, things like that.
• 31:14
  The downside, however, is that when you use them on a regular basis, and this is true for weight loss.
• 31:19
  ah Is that we see because we're measuring we have dexus cancer So we're measuring bone density and we're measuring body composition within body.
• 31:27
  We see people lose muscle mass and we see them Preferentially lose muscle over fat when they're using a GLP one and we also see loss of bone density So yes, it's suppressing
• 31:40
  appetite Which is really how it works.
• 31:42
  It's an appetite suppressant but with a GLP one, we're actually seeing that
• 31:47
  Yes, you're losing weight, but you're losing, you're losing the part of your body you don't want to lose.
• 31:52
  And you're hanging onto the party part of your body.
• 31:55
  You don't want to hang onto.
• 31:56
  So it's, you're not really getting what you want.
• 31:58
  And so it's really important for people not to focus on the scale.
• 32:03
  think focusing on the number on the scale is really misleading.
• 32:07
  Like if you sat there and say, I'm going to do a water fast for 20 days, I had a guy come in here and said, I'm doing a water fast for 28 days.
• 32:14
  said, really, how many days are you into it?
• 32:16
  said I'm two weeks into it.
• 32:18
  said, well, great.
• 32:18
  Let's go check your body composition on the in body.
• 32:21
  my gosh.
• 32:22
  This guy had lost tons of muscle, right?
• 32:25
  Very little fat.
• 32:27
  And it's like, well, here's here's the facts of what's actually happening here.
• 32:31
  You sure you want to continue with this?
• 32:33
  And yes, fasting is very healthy because it causes the body to become to go into recycle mode, right?
• 32:39
  Where you increase autophagy and you increase the breakdown of, you know,
• 32:44
  to form proteins and you recycle organelles and all the different things that you need to do.
• 32:48
  Lovely, wonderful.
• 32:49
  We love it.
• 32:50
  But when you get into these scenarios with either either extended fasting or with GLP ones for extended period of time, you actually start to break the body down.
• 33:03
  You're actually losing muscle mass and protein.
• 33:06
  And the reason for that is that
• 33:08
  Your body can't survive on fat alone.
• 33:10
  There are other minerals and things that it needs.
• 33:13
  so it can only get those fat only as fat.
• 33:15
  It's only energy, right?
• 33:16
  So if it needs other minerals because you're not eating, then it's got to get it from someplace.
• 33:20
  So it's got to pull it from the bones.
• 33:22
  It's got to pull it from the muscles, right?
• 33:24
  so just realize that if weight loss is your goal, what we really coach people on is that body composition should be the goal.
• 33:32
  And if you're really interested in.
• 33:34
  optimizing body composition, that means, yeah, you'll put on some muscle.
• 33:39
  Yes, you'll lose some fat.
• 33:40
  Your weight will shift, but your body composition will shift in a very healthy way.
• 33:44
  Now you have more bone density, more muscle mass, more ability to do things.
• 33:48
  And yes, your fat percent goes down and your fat distribution is significantly improved.
• 33:55
  But that's really what we think people should focus on.
• 33:58
  So there are scales that you can buy at home.
• 34:01
  you know, like an in-body scale that will use electrical impedance to actually read your body each morning and tell you where your percent body fat is, where your percent muscle
• 34:11
  mass is and things like that.
• 34:12
  And that's a better way when you're at home doing these things to kind of track, OK, what's actually happening here?
• 34:19
  What are we really doing?
• 34:20
  Yes, I'm losing, quote unquote, weight, but what weight am I losing?
• 34:23
  Am I losing good weight or am I losing bad weight?
• 34:26
  Right.
• 34:26
  So anyway, that's kind of how we think about it.
• 34:28
  Well, you and I clearly are completely obviously in alignment.
• 34:32
  And so the message for people listening is, you know, most doctors are doing GLP, they
• 34:37
  They have seemingly a solution, but it's not a true solution.
• 34:41
  you said, patients on this wind up losing muscle and muscle is the organ of longevity.
• 34:48
  So this is a better way.
• 34:49
  So patients are coming to understand, yeah, GOP1, maybe it's great for somebody who's morbidly obese and they're like a walking, talking time bomb about to have a stroke or
• 35:01
  something.
• 35:01
  you're taking, so for that reason,
• 35:04
  But I just want people to understand, yes, that's good, but there's even a better way.
• 35:10
  Like you understand it, you get it doc.
• 35:13
  So we, we transition them.
• 35:15
  can use it to just to prime them.
• 35:18
  You take them off for full body cellular reset of metabolic reset, a fat reset for permanent results.
• 35:27
  Hello, this is what we want.
• 35:28
  So it's a better solution.
• 35:30
  You're focusing on your
• 35:32
  body composition, it is all about muscle.
• 35:35
  It is not about that number on the scale.
• 35:37
  You're absolutely right.
• 35:39
  This is why this education is so critical to make better choices.
• 35:44
  And the way you're doing it is just a better solution.
• 35:48
  So people have a lot of common sense and they get it.
• 35:52
  So that's why they're gladden longevity, obviously.
• 35:56
  And by Wednesday I...
• 35:58
  Well, I appreciate that.
• 35:59
  Yeah.
• 35:59
  You know, there are some interesting things being done that we're starting to do with the GLP ones, which is to micro dose them where you're getting some of the actual benefits
• 36:08
  from them.
• 36:09
  As I mentioned, there are some really nice benefits with regards to vascular health and brain health and decreased cardiovascular risk and improved kidney function and things
• 36:18
  like that.
• 36:19
  Even some cognitive improvements.
• 36:21
  But if you're using a tenth of the dose,
• 36:24
  You're not actually using enough to suppress appetite to a point where you're depleting, you know, bone density and muscle mass.
• 36:31
  So that's one thing to keep in mind.
• 36:33
  Again, we're not anti GLP one.
• 36:35
  We're what we really are is very pro optimized body composition and using only a GLP one is not going to get you there is what we've seen.
• 36:44
  The other thing for you to think about, we talked about fasting.
• 36:47
  I just want to mention this.
• 36:48
  There is a prolon.
• 36:51
  PROLON, five day fast mimicking diet, which actually is very, very helpful because during that five days when you're quote unquote fasting, you are eating at the same time.
• 37:03
  There's some nuts, some olives, some soups that they've put together and some things like that.
• 37:07
  So you do eat some calories each day as you go through your five day fast mimicking diet.
• 37:13
  And that's the beauty of that has been that because there is some carbs in there.
• 37:18
  They've actually shown that there's enough to keep your body from actually having to tap into the muscle.
• 37:26
  And so in the five day fast, when we can diet, you're actually not losing muscle mass.
• 37:30
  You're actually losing fat mass and you're resetting many things in your body, which when you talk about metabolic reset, it's really nice to reset your appetite, reset your taste
• 37:41
  buds, reset your gut bio, right?
• 37:44
  All these things get reset and
• 37:46
  terms of a five day fast mimicking diet.
• 37:49
  And then one of the other things that we've gotten into with GLP-1s is understanding that certain bacteria in your gut, in the microbiome, you endogenously, you make your own
• 38:00
  GLP-1, right?
• 38:02
  And so if you take a probiotic, a GLP-1 primordium probiotic that has acromansia in it, this is a good way for you to get off your GLP-1 and still have some of the good benefits
• 38:16
  of it.
• 38:17
  Again, but not to the extent where you're starting to just tear your body apart for the sake of a number on the scale.
• 38:24
  So anyway, these are just some of the ways that we go about it here as well.
• 38:28
  Well, this is why your system is clearly heads and shoulders above the way most people do it because they are just focused on...
• 38:37
  Let's just put on our common sense hat.
• 38:39
  This is just a smarter, better solution.
• 38:42
  Microdosing, the GLP, and eventually even taking them off.
• 38:47
  And these people have a true permanent, basically they have a graduation date and they have the, their body understands that they're in control of it.
• 38:57
  So they get to their body starts responding super well.
• 39:00
  So they.
• 39:01
  And obviously you're measuring, you said another key thing for people who really want to dial down into this, have to get a uh full body composition scale.
• 39:10
  Like you mentioned, they're cheap, they have apps, you can track it every day.
• 39:15
  A lot of our providers, have their patients send those numbers in daily so when they have their monthly assessment or whatever, they can...
• 39:24
  check to see the progress on the body comp.
• 39:27
  So these numbers are key.
• 39:28
  These are the tools that you need.
• 39:30
  Here are the solutions.
• 39:32
  You get it.
• 39:33
  So for people who are hoping to, oh my God, I want to really truly, I really want to handle this situation.
• 39:41
  I'm like, here's, we got solutions.
• 39:42
  It's exciting.
• 39:43
  And it's, it's a beautiful thing because.
• 39:46
  it really is exciting.
• 39:47
  There was a couple other pieces to it that I'll just mention.
• 39:50
  One is that we do a resting metabolic rate on everybody in addition to their thyroid blood work.
• 39:54
  And what we find is a lot of people that struggle with weight actually have subclinical hypothyroidism where they just aren't getting enough thyroid activity at the cellular
• 40:04
  level.
• 40:05
  And when we fix that for them, all of a sudden it's easy.
• 40:08
  uh
• 40:09
  how you help people like balance the thyroid.
• 40:13
  Well, depends.
• 40:15
  So, thyroid.
• 40:17
  and how you've seen success.
• 40:19
  Just give me a couple of, like, share a couple of.
• 40:23
  let's say somebody comes in and they're, they're not feeling particularly good energy.
• 40:30
  They feel like they're putting on some weight and things like that.
• 40:32
  Well, one of the very first things we'll check is their thyroid.
• 40:35
  And so how do you check a thyroid?
• 40:36
  Well, we do very complete thyroid blood tests to make sure there isn't any Hashimoto's thyroiditis or any antibodies against the thyroid.
• 40:44
  looking at, you know, T3, T4, free T3, free T4, TSH, reverse T3.
• 40:51
  you know, all the different things that you would look for in a blood test.
• 40:54
  But then we also hook them up to a metabolic card and have them breathe through a mask for about 20 minutes.
• 41:00
  And we measure how much oxygen they can consume and how much CO2 they can produce.
• 41:05
  And from that, we can actually calculate their resting metabolic rate.
• 41:09
  And many times what we'll see is that their their blood work is in the quote unquote normal range, but their resting metabolic rate is low, which means that the cells
• 41:21
  are turning over at a slower rate.
• 41:23
  They're utilizing oxygen at a lower rate.
• 41:26
  And so if we see that, then we look for, well, what could be causing that?
• 41:31
  Is there some underlying infection?
• 41:33
  Are they low on iodine?
• 41:35
  Do they simply need a low dose of thyroid?
• 41:40
  And then what we do is we look at their brain through
• 41:44
  uh a genetic test to look at a DIO2 gene to see if they're converting inactive thyroid to active thyroid in the brain, T4 to T3.
• 41:53
  And many people are deficient in their ability to do that.
• 41:56
  So then if they get thyroid replacement, they're going to need a combination of active T3 and inactive T4, not just inactive T4 like Synthroid like is typically prescribed.
• 42:08
  So when you tease these things apart and then put back together the
• 42:12
  the solution, the lights come on for people, energy comes on.
• 42:15
  And then all of a sudden, yes, it's easier to lose weight.
• 42:18
  It's also easier to focus.
• 42:19
  It's easier to be motivated.
• 42:21
  Right.
• 42:21
  So we think thyroid is, is really critical to get right whenever you're talking about weight loss.
• 42:27
  So yeah, that's another thing.
• 42:29
  And then the other thing we do is we do a two hour glucose tolerance test with an insulin curve for everybody, because that's critical.
• 42:36
  There's so much.
• 42:37
  There's so much underlying insulin resistance out there, even in people that have normal hemoglobin A1Cs.
• 42:43
  Let's say their hemoglobin A1C is 5.2 and their fasting blood sugar is 88.
• 42:49
  You'd say, you know, every doctor on the planet would say, you are not diabetic.
• 42:53
  You have nothing to worry about.
• 42:55
  Our approach is to say, that's great.
• 42:57
  That's great at rest.
• 42:58
  Let's do a stress test.
• 43:00
  So let's have you drink 75 grams of glucose and see what happens.
• 43:06
  And many times people will control that very well, but other times people's blood sugar will shoot up to 180.
• 43:12
  It shouldn't get over 135.
• 43:13
  And their insulin level will go up, shouldn't go up more than five times the resting level and it'll go up 10 or 15 times.
• 43:21
  So we immediately know that they have insulin resistance.
• 43:24
  And then genetically we can see that they may be predisposed to that.
• 43:28
  when you, when you take this, when you do the actual deconstruction,
• 43:33
  of the person's genetics, their metabolism, their biometric testing, you can actually come up with a program that becomes a custom fit.
• 43:43
  And you're able to weave this together in a way where people get results they couldn't get otherwise.
• 43:49
  And they can get there much faster because you're not really just throwing potential solutions at the wall and hoping one sticks.
• 43:57
  You're basically giving them exactly what it is they need.
• 43:59
  It's kind of like everybody's a
• 44:01
  an F1 car, Formula One car, a Ferrari, right?
• 44:03
  If you bring it into the shop because it's not running right, you don't just throw tires on it.
• 44:08
  You don't just throw oil in it and hope that fixes it, right?
• 44:11
  You've got to actually do the diagnostics to see where is the issue and then you can put it back out on the track.
• 44:17
  That's kind of how we think about it.
• 44:19
  So that's why you're a genius because you're really dialing, it's not a one size fits all.
• 44:24
  You're truly, truly personalized precision medicine here.
• 44:29
  And you're like almost reverse engineering.
• 44:32
  You're looking under the, you're not just like the typical mechanic who's just doing the fundamentals.
• 44:39
  You're seeing it, you're doing deep, deep diagnostic, seeing the biological pathways.
• 44:43
  What's working, what's not.
• 44:45
  What genes are turned on, what's not.
• 44:46
  What are we dealing with here?
• 44:47
  Everyone is.
• 44:48
  private and personalized and that's why you get better results.
• 44:52
  right.
• 44:52
  And then, you know, their hormones factor into it, too.
• 44:54
  What is your testosterone, estrogen, progesterone?
• 44:57
  What's that look like?
• 44:57
  You know, where are you?
• 44:58
  There are many factors that go into this.
• 45:00
  Biology is a complex system.
• 45:03
  And so you have to take this systems approach to it to actually get the best results for people.
• 45:07
  But to your point, when you do, you can get really durable results for people.
• 45:12
  And that's really gratifying.
• 45:14
  I mean, you change people's lives, right?
• 45:16
  And I think, you know, we're excited to kind of incorporate
• 45:19
  some of the red light stuff beyond what we've currently had as another tool and another piece of the solution.
• 45:26
  So that's cool stuff.
• 45:27
  Yeah.
• 45:27
  I predict as you layer these new technologies, including the hyperbaric, with red light therapy inside there, by the way, people, which is very unusual.
• 45:37
  So, I mean, you're really getting the top echelon, top tier stuff, the latest, most innovative, most cutting edge technologies.
• 45:46
  You're an incredible success.
• 45:47
  I predict that you're going to feel so professionally even set it fulfilled even more.
• 45:55
  And I know that you're make you're you're changing lives.
• 45:59
  So this is the beauty and the magic of it.
• 46:02
  that's the joy right there is really helping people step forward into everything that they can become, right?
• 46:07
  That's really the joy of it for, I think for both of us.
• 46:10
  Well, Mike, I really appreciate you taking the time to chat here.
• 46:14
  It's been great.
• 46:15
  on top of all that you do and you understand it is you layer in the mindset approach like longevity medicine, the number one thing is shift your mindset people and you will...
• 46:26
  uh
• 46:27
  yeah, it's a new world out there, right?
• 46:29
  It's a new world when you optimize your mindset for sure.
• 46:33
  So, but yeah, well, appreciate
• 46:36
  longevity.
• 46:37
  So I get that about you and what you're doing.
• 46:39
  So it's a beautiful thing.
• 46:41
  just full disclosure, Dr.
• 46:43
  Mike and I have worked out some stuff.
• 46:44
  bringing in the red light and the HBOT over here, right?
• 46:47
  Hyperbaric, and he's going to come over and do a bunch of testing with us and kind of, we're going to deconstruct Dr.
• 46:53
  Mike and sort of see where we can push and pull to make him even better too, right?
• 46:57
  So it's, well, maybe we'll have to do another podcast and report back on this.
• 47:02
  So, yeah.
• 47:03
  it's been a pleasure
• 47:04
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 47:05
  Thanks so much.