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The Problem with Being Easily Offended: A No-Holds-Barred Discussion with Jason Lamar · Let's Get Naked

0:00
SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, I'm Ann.
0:01
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to another episode of Let's Get Naked.
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SPEAKER_00: Today I'm being joined by Jason Lamar, who has been on the show a couple of times previously.
0:09
SPEAKER_00: And we met recently for a conversation and just getting together, and we thought, you know what, we're going to do this on the show so that we can just rant and complain and all, you know, all of the things back and forth.
0:21
SPEAKER_00: Say the things that we that we see out there that are happening, give some perspective to just all the shit, right?
0:28
SPEAKER_00: So we're just gonna, we're just gonna get right into it and kind of talk about it.
0:31
SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much for joining me.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
0:33
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for the invite.
0:34
SPEAKER_00: No, absolutely.
0:35
SPEAKER_00: So Jason and I have, uh, for maybe someone who hasn't seen any of Jason's content before, Jason and I have a very similar uh style as far as just not pulling any punches.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like let's just look at things as they actually are instead of uh sugarcoating stuff.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: We don't really pussyfoot around much.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh we have a lot of fun when we get together.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: Last time we uh we recorded, we dropped the F bomb a bunch.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: So here's your here's your pre-warning.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: If language is a problem for you, you might want to just change the channel now because you know, Jason and I are both really passionate about things.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: And when we get passionate, we start throwing language around.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if like to add on to that, if language is a problem for you, you might want to rethink your whole entire life because someone said words.
1:19
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, I'm fucking offended.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gay.
1:22
SPEAKER_01: It's gay as fuck.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: It's gay as fuck.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's funny because I had someone in my comment section that they get in there and they say, like, you know, your message is great, except, you know, could you could you not do the language?
1:32
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, don't tell me what to do, first of all.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: Second of all, if you want to do a show, you can do it with no fucking words in there if you want to.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: But then I have people that are like defending me in the comments, which is awesome.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: One of the guys uh wrote fuck about a hundred times in the comments to one lady's like, hey, you shouldn't.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: And I thought, thank you guys.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, exactly.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: If you're if you're an Anne fan out there, I appreciate the defense because I don't want to have to get in there in the comments and defend myself for the language.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: It comes out.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: I came out the box this way.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: I get it.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: My mom doesn't fucking like it either.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: It's not changing.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: Like I mean, once again, it's it's it's fucking words.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: People said some things.
2:06
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, you don't like the sound of something.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: There's absolute insanity.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: This is this is second grade, you said no-no words, bullshit.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: Like you are grown as fuck.
2:14
SPEAKER_01: There are much more difficult things in life than mouth sounds that you don't care for.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, adjectives and verbs.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, and it's like I'm also telling people, you know, the things that I'm the things that I'm talking about are really big stuff like uh pedophiles and fucking uh sexual trauma and fucking predators and all this shit.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, you want me to not cuss?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're in a place in society where we're eating babies and fucking children, and you have a problem with me saying that.
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SPEAKER_02: And you're mad about the words that I fucking.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, people are fucking preying on children, and you want me to be soft about that?
2:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, are you even awake?
2:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like that you're talking about these topics, but please, please watch the ponytail.
2:51
SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
2:52
SPEAKER_00: This is absolutely fucking.
2:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like what are they what are they gonna be sad about it?
2:56
SPEAKER_02: The the kid fuckers.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: The kidists.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: We want to not offend the rapists.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: Or when people start putting like different words out there to make things softer, I don't understand that.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: Like the language matters.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: And so if we're not allowed to say things like fill in the blanks, now they're doing like where you can't not that you can't say pedo, but they're saying it like a different like the whole map, you know, like I saw I saw that shit.
3:19
SPEAKER_01: That's at yeah, uh, what is it, uh minor attracted persons or whatever the fuck?
3:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: See, this is but this is the direction that the thing of the genderlessness headed in, where you want to sit there and classify everything as other than what it is to make somebody comfortable.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, you're a fucking pedophile, you're a weirdo.
3:40
SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna give you special names to make you feel good about your weird ass sexual fucking perversions.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: It's not how go to therapy, get some help, keep your fucking hands to yourself.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: Like, we're not asking for money.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: You should fully this, but this and this is also a thing where people have you shouldn't feel shame.
3:53
SPEAKER_01: No, you should be fully fucking ashamed of the fact that you find children attractive.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: Now, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a fucking, I don't know how that comes to be the case.
4:02
SPEAKER_01: Does it fucking matter though?
4:03
SPEAKER_01: You should be ashamed of it, you should do something to fix it, to fix it, and to not put that shit out into the world.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: But then they had this, like they had this thing a while ago where it's like you shouldn't kink shame people.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, some of the shit's weird.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: Some of the shit you're into is fucking weird.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: You should be ashamed of it, you should keep it in private.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: You should not be comfortable telling people that.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: Who the fuck?
4:20
SPEAKER_00: People should keep all sorts of shit in private.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: All the shit, you should keep your fucking self.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: Like they had the that's the whole entire thing where everyone wants to sit there and run around and list out your fucking sexual attractions and I'm a I'm a I'm a gay, demi-sexual, whatever the nobody gives a fuck.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: Who cares who wanna fuck?
4:33
SPEAKER_00: Can't we just start with hi, I'm Bill?
4:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Bill.
4:36
SPEAKER_01: But see, but that's but that's the thing, though, right?
4:38
SPEAKER_01: If I say if I came up to somebody and said, Hi, I'm Jason, and I'm really sexually attracted to five foot two brunette Latinas, then it's like, oh, you're weird.
4:47
SPEAKER_01: But what's the difference if I say hi, I'm Jason and I'm gay?
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SPEAKER_01: Same exact thing.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: It's so funny that you say that because literally, this is what happens in my house when we're joking around about this shit.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: Here's an inside view.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, uh, hi, I'm Ann.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: I like anal and you know, I'm like, why would you need to know that?
5:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying that I do, it's just a joke, right?
5:05
SPEAKER_00: That we'll leave that one a mystery.
5:06
SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't, but it doesn't fucking matter.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: It's like, can't we just connect like humans instead of all of that?
5:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't care who you want to fuck.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: As long as you don't fuck with kids, I don't care who you want to fuck with.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, kids are animals like weirdos.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: It's like that's exactly and animals.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we please leave all of leave the animals alone, leave the kids alone.
5:23
SPEAKER_01: Anything that can't think for itself.
5:25
SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
5:25
SPEAKER_00: But other than that, I don't care, but I don't need to know that.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think you, you know, we were talking about the whole pronoun situation, and you had such a good uh perspective on that because you're like, you're trying to tell me how to speak about you when you're not even there in the third person, like whatever it was.
5:40
SPEAKER_01: It's like, what are you like if somebody if somebody comes up to me and says, Hi, my pronouns are she, her, or whatever the fuck, it's like I'm never going to refer to you as she.
5:50
SPEAKER_01: I would speak to him about you and say she.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: So what you're saying to me is this is how you must speak about me to other people.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: No, right.
5:57
SPEAKER_00: Like when I'm not sure.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: I will describe you in whatever the fuck way that I feel like.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: Because that's my fucking right.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and don't tell me my fucking business, right?
6:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, in the same way that I can't walk up to other people and be like, hi, when you speak about me to other people, tell them that I am funny and handsome.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: Because that's weird.
6:14
SPEAKER_01: Right.
6:14
SPEAKER_01: It's like, what?
6:15
SPEAKER_01: No.
6:16
SPEAKER_00: Right.
6:16
SPEAKER_01: It it's the same fucking difference.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: It is the same difference.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: So Jason has such a great, oh my God, you you have such great visuals for things.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'm also obviously very visual person uh for anyone that's ever heard me speak.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh and and so just but it is, people need to hear it that way of like, I don't give a shit what you do.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm not coming against people that have different pronouns.
6:35
SPEAKER_00: I literally don't care.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: Just don't push it on everybody else, right?
6:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't care what you do with the trans transgender stuff, just don't push it on everybody else.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: When you're trying to put, um, when we're trying to make the exception fit the rule, it's like we're we've missed it.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: We're not, we yes, we have maybe these these instances of people.
6:53
SPEAKER_00: Why are we trying to force the other 99% of people to accommodate that 1%?
6:58
SPEAKER_00: That's outrageous.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: We're taking rights from one person to give to another?
7:02
SPEAKER_00: Are you crazy?
7:02
SPEAKER_00: And then I'm the asshole for saying that's not okay.
7:05
SPEAKER_01: Well, it it'd be the it'd be the exact same thing, right?
7:08
SPEAKER_01: If that all of a sudden one day they decided that they need to take them little furry people to like to dress up as animals and everyone needs to act like they were real animals and not adopting them as your pets would somehow be hateful and wrong.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't see what the fucking difference is.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: You're just sitting here trying to appease a bunch of random weirdos who like some shit.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: It's like you're you're free to do what you want.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: You want to dress up as a squirrel in your house and plant a tree in your living room or whatever the fuck it is that floats your weird ass boat, you do that, right?
7:31
SPEAKER_01: But the the problem is when you want other people to sit there and do this as well.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: You want to be able to run around in my backyard in your squirrel costume because you're like, well, this is where squirrels go.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: No, motherfucker, you got my yard.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: Get out of my yard.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: Get out of here.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: Don't find another room.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's funny because um, so one of the things recently that I did is I wrote this letter to Karen and I posted it out.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, you know, a lot of the comments that I've gotten from back from people on some of the posts that I've done recently is um that Karen's the one who's ruined things.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: And I don't disagree.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: I think, I think the Karen's in general uh are hypersensitive to stuff, and then they motherfucker people uh because they're being offensive, because they get offended over shit that doesn't matter, right?
8:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh, because you won't support someone and affirm that they're transgender.
8:13
SPEAKER_00: It's like, I'm not affirming anybody else.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: It's not my fucking business.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm not affirming shit.
8:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, but that's what they want people to do.
8:19
SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, on the on the pronouncing, I got some comments back of like, it's just a small thing.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: Can't you do that?
8:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, where's the line?
8:25
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: First of all, no, exactly.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: And also, where's the line?
8:28
SPEAKER_00: That's like me going into a meeting and saying, you know what, everybody, let's pray to my God before we start this fucking meeting.
8:35
SPEAKER_00: That's what that is doing.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: It's forcing my stuff on other other people.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: Why would that be any different than telling other people that they have to put pronouns on their emails or that they have to do a certain thing?
8:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm not affirming anyone else.
8:45
SPEAKER_00: I your weird shit can be your weird shit.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: I have my own weird shit.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: I'll keep my stuff to me, you keep your stuff to you, we're gonna be fine.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, so okay, so I have I have multiple perspectives here.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: So for one, if I myself am a comedian or I consider myself to be a comedian, and I tell someone a joke and they don't laugh, that's their prerogative.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: But from that standpoint, if someone doesn't laugh at my joke because I think I'm funny, they are hateful for not affirming my my comedic instincts, instincts, or whatever the fuck, which is absolute insanity, right?
9:13
SPEAKER_01: So I who am I to push onto other people how it is that they must perceive me?
9:17
SPEAKER_01: Because that's what you're doing when you say, hi, I'm Bill and I'm a woman, is saying, disregard what you know is reality and make me happy by you co-opting what it is that I think.
9:26
SPEAKER_01: And my answer to that is always absolutely fucking not.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: Because my brain is mine, my mind is mine, my worldview is mine, and you will have no parts of it, you it, and you are not influencing it.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: You're free to do what you want.
9:37
SPEAKER_01: 100%.
9:37
SPEAKER_01: But in the exact same sense that I'm not gonna come up to you and say, hey, you're a dude, and you need to behave and act like a fucking dude just and stop putting on a dress and shit.
9:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: And you would think that that was hateful if I did it.
9:48
SPEAKER_01: So what's the difference in reverse?
9:50
SPEAKER_01: If my thing is hateful, your thing is equally hateful because I'm saying that you need to change your reality to accommodate mine.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: Right.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: And that's a problem.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: But you could tell me I need to change my reality to accommodate yours.
9:58
SPEAKER_01: Absolute insanity.
10:00
SPEAKER_01: And then the second thing, exactly what you said, where is the line is a very good question.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: And I've thought this is a thing I've thought about for many, many years, right?
10:07
SPEAKER_01: But the thing is once you don't have a hard line for anything, then it could just become whatever the fuck it is that you want, right?
10:14
SPEAKER_01: So, say for like if you have, for example, a pile of sand, right?
10:19
SPEAKER_01: There are no individual grains that make or break that being a pile.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: But at some point, you removing and or adding grains will make it no longer a pile or a pile to begin with.
10:29
SPEAKER_01: So you need to either say, no, I'm not gonna remove any of these fucking grains, or no, we're not putting any grains here to begin with.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, you're gonna end up with no pile or a pile that you didn't want because you just made an exception for one tiny little thing.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: That's that's all that's how it starts, right?
10:42
SPEAKER_00: It's like oh, we just want people to just accept whatever it is.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: I no.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: No.
10:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, this is a this is another who the fuck says you need to be accepted and included in like people have this thing, well, you don't want inclusion.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: No, why does everybody need to be a part of every fucking thing?
10:56
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: Like, if we if I have a Star Wars convention and you like Star Trek, then go to a fucking Star Trek convention.
11:02
SPEAKER_01: Don't come into my Star Wars convention and say you need to put, I don't know enough about Star Trek to it.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: I love the analogy because sometimes it's like, oh fuck, I didn't get all the time.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm like, I don't know enough about this.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: But don't come to my Star Wars convention.
11:16
SPEAKER_01: Tell me I need to put fucking Star Trek shit here.
11:18
SPEAKER_01: And that is exclusive by definition.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: But you don't need to be included to this.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: Go start your fucking own.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: The exact same thing with the other things.
11:26
SPEAKER_01: Go play your own fucking sports.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
11:28
SPEAKER_01: Go to your own fucking whatever it is that you would like.
11:30
SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
11:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm not included.
11:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay, such as fucking life.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not inclusive.
11:33
SPEAKER_01: Fuck you.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: You know, the whole the whole Karen situation and how that has has started with things.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: It's clutching the pearls, offended because people used to say gay, and we say it again now, uh, or or retard, or, you know, any of those forms of things.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: And then everyone was so afraid to say them because they would get, you know, Karen's would get real loud and get fucking crazy and be like, you can't say that, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: And it's just not worth it.
11:56
SPEAKER_00: I think that's where we've gotten is like most people are just like, it's not worth the fight of being bullied by people who are like, you have to fucking, you know, get in line with this and that, whatever.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: I part the only reason I personally don't say certain words is because I get flagged on shit.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: Other than that, I don't.
12:14
SPEAKER_01: Like, I put a I put a post the other day that said, uh, nothing is offensive unless you choose to be offended by it.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Do what you will with that, faggot.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: And it got taken down.
12:24
SPEAKER_01: Really?
12:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:24
SPEAKER_01: On uh they took it off my Facebook.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: They're like, oh, this is terrible.
12:27
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna demonetize you.
12:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, come on, what?
12:30
SPEAKER_00: We can say all the words.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: It's just words.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: There, there's a there's just words, and that's a whole thing.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: If you want to fucking sit around and look for reasons to be offended, that's on you.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: I look at people in the comment section of stuff, and it's like, you realize you stepped in dog shit on purpose, right?
12:43
SPEAKER_00: If you don't want to be offended, don't fucking come on social media.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Not only that, being offended is fully up to the receiver of the offense, right?
12:52
SPEAKER_01: In the in the sense that I could say something to you that I intend as a compliment, and that could upset you because I don't have a control over how you receive it.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: But by the same token, I could say something that I intend to offend you, and you could take it as a compliment.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't control how you receive things.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: So people are taking things and thinking, hmm, how can this make me sad today?
13:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then choosing to do that, which is retarded.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: It's also gay.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, why do you think people do that?
13:16
SPEAKER_00: Why, you know, we talk about that all the time about like you're the one holding the paintbrush of your own life.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, I tell people all the time, I'm like, I just assume everyone likes me, right?
13:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a ding-dong.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: I know they don't.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: I realize that.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: But why am I going to sort through figuring out like, does so-and-so like me or does so-and-so not?
13:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't give a fuck.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: What you think of me is none of my business, and I'm not gonna waste any energy on it.
13:35
SPEAKER_00: But it's like, why do people come from that opposite direction?
13:37
SPEAKER_00: It's the worst way to do it.
13:39
SPEAKER_01: So, two things.
13:41
SPEAKER_01: So, one, I am of the belief that once something is said to me, it's mine now.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: I could do what I want with it.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: So I don't care if you meant this as an insult.
13:48
SPEAKER_01: To me, it's a compliment.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: You just suck at complimenting me.
13:51
SPEAKER_01: But thank you, regardless for saying these things.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna let somebody else affect my mood, affect my worldview, affect my thoughts about myself or anything like that.
13:59
SPEAKER_01: Like my mind is mine and I will do with it as I please.
14:01
SPEAKER_01: And when you give me your words, I will do with them as I please.
14:04
SPEAKER_01: That's not up to you.
14:04
SPEAKER_03: That's excellent.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: And the other thing, I think that some people do it because they want to feel like they're good people without doing anything necessary to be a good person.
14:15
SPEAKER_01: So there are a lot of people who sit there and say, Oh my god, you send the R word, that's so whatever the case, because that makes them feel as though they've done some like good positive deed out in the world and they're empathetic and compassionate and they're standing up for the little guy and all of this other retarded shit.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:30
SPEAKER_01: But they don't want to actually do a thing.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: Like go out, go outside and give an old person some money or grab some fucking groceries off the top shelf or something, or or do something.
14:41
SPEAKER_01: Get a lost dog off the street or something.
14:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, do do something actually.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: They'd be actually a good person.
14:45
SPEAKER_01: So they have just a little performative, whatever the fuck.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people, I think, also don't have anything going on with their lives, so they decide to find things to hurt their feelings and then make other people feel bad about them or feel bad for them because it makes them feel good about themselves.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: What a waste of energy.
15:02
SPEAKER_01: Absolute, complete.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: This is the thing.
15:04
SPEAKER_01: Most people have all like people swear they don't have like energy or time for all this shit.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: It's like you just put it towards the absolute dumbest shit.
15:10
SPEAKER_01: Like if you found as much, if you put as much effort in towards figuring out ways to be better as you do figuring out ways to be hurt, your life would be amazing.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: If you went as far to convince yourself to do something helpful as you do to convince yourself that you can't do that shit, you would be so fucking amazed.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: Like people go through the the the biggest mental gymnastics to convince themselves they can't lose weight.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, this is so much more work than just not eating food.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: You're not wrong.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: And also, I've talked to a bunch of people who have been on both sides of this, right?
15:41
SPEAKER_00: My 30-year-old daughter who was on earlier today, she was depressed for a lot of years, right?
15:46
SPEAKER_00: As that whole generation and just younger people, I think it they have different dynamics 100%.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: Finally got through to her of like, stop doing depressing shit, baby.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: If you don't want to be depressed, just stop doing depressing shit.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: And she'll be the first one to tell you, ah, yes.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: This makes sense.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: It's like, and it took her a while, which was painful to watch from the outside because I'm like, you realize you're doing this to yourself, right?
16:09
SPEAKER_00: And that's the problem, is people don't want to acknowledge that they're the ones that are doing it to themselves.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: If you're fat, you're the one that's making you fat.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: If you're depressed, you're the one that's making yourself depressed.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: Again, I don't want to get into, I don't need comments about fucking the exceptions of people that need, you know, have something wrong with it.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't give a shit.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: I believe that's like four people.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't even give a fuck.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: Agree.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: I agree that it's a small percentage as well.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: And also, I don't great.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: If that's a that is, I will say, I believe that the majority of people that are on fucking meds, like I I saw one of your posts and it was like psychiatrists are just fucking drug dealers with degrees.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: And I totally agree with you.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, don't you guys realize that they are numbing you out from your fucking emotions?
16:52
SPEAKER_00: And those emotions are yours.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: That should be your compass on fucking navigating life.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: Your emotions are you, you know, all of that is your superpower, and you're gonna fucking numb it all out to because you don't want to feel uncomfortable, you don't want to feel anxiety, like you know.
17:07
SPEAKER_01: I I think you made a video about that.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: I saw it the other day, but I think exactly the same thing.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, uh, anxiety is an amplified awareness of your own incompetence.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: And these are things that are trying to tell you things, and people just wanna be like, well, I don't want to feel these things.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: That's perfectly fucking fine.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: And I understand you don't want to feel these things, but fix the thing that's making you feel this.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: If you're sitting in your house and your fire alarm is going off, you're like, I don't want to hear this noise, cool.
17:33
SPEAKER_01: But don't take the batteries out and let your fucking house burn down.
17:36
SPEAKER_01: Put out the fire, get rid of the smoke, and then the alarm will also go off.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: Two birds with one stone, but otherwise you're gonna get rid of the noise and burn to death because you're a fucking idiot.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: That's exactly what's happening.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: You watch, that's exactly what is happening.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: I watch as people are so disconnected from themselves, they don't fucking even know what they want, and they just continue to just numb and numb and numb.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, again, no judgment.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: I lived a lot of fucking decades in that same perspective.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm just telling you, I climbed out of that shit.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: I'm no longer that way, and it's amazing.
18:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, people have been convinced that they're supposed to be happy all of the time, right?
18:11
SPEAKER_01: And anything other than happiness is bad.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: But the logical end result of the belief that you only ever need to feel good is obesity and drug addiction.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's how they wound up there.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Thinking, oh, I'm sad, I need to make, I need to eat this pizza to make myself feel better.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm uncomfortable, I need to do meth.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, and then you wind up as these two extremes of this thing, chasing your good positive feelings and trying to get rid of all of the bad, sad stuff.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's okay to be fucking sad.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: It's okay to be sad.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: It'd be the same exact people who will sit there and tell me it's okay to be sad, but then go to therapy to figure out 18 million coping meth mechanisms to make sure that they're never sad.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: Like it's okay to be sad, I won't just be fucking sad then.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just sit in it.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: Eventually you won't be sad.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: It's it's really powerful to sit in emotions.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just be the thing.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's okay to do that.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, people don't want to feel hunger.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: It's okay to feel hunger.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, someone explained to me recently, or we had this analogy about like, you know, all of the different uh numbs on the table, like it's Thanksgiving dinner, right?
19:09
SPEAKER_00: So it's like porn, uh, you know, all gambling, fucking drinking, doing scrolling, all of these things are at the table.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Push back from the goddamn table.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Just fast from shit for a minute.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't necessarily mean food fasting, but just push back from all the fucking numbers and allow your body to reset a little bit so you can start feeling things.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: Because if you're numbing out all the goddamn time, you have no idea what your emotions and what your feelings even are.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: They don't have a chance to fucking even come up.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: This is uh this is uh the fasting thing made me think of a great thing we're gonna use as a terminology here.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: So I have been fasting personally myself for like 14, 15 years now.
19:49
SPEAKER_01: I eat once a day.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
19:52
SPEAKER_01: And most Sundays I eat no food.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: But when I was first doing this, I was personal training.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: And so Sunday day, so the last time I ate was Saturday night, Sunday day, no food, and then we had to come in, like all the personal trainers, it was a commercial gym, I had to come in Monday morning to do some like, I don't know, some dumbass little thing where you had to run out of treadmill and do your heart rate, whatever the fucking case may be.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: And we weren't allowed to eat beforehand.
20:17
SPEAKER_01: I was like, that's personally not a problem for me, because I don't fucking eat anyway.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: But there were other trainers there.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: One dude who I was like 25 and some dude who was like 40 or something at the time, and it was like 7 or 8 a.m.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: and he hadn't had breakfast, he was having a complete mental fucking breakdown because he hadn't had any food, and there were a bunch of them other trainers as well, stressed the fuck out because they hadn't eaten that morning.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: And that is how most people exist throughout the world, not even specifically with food, whether it be their their substances or their their various coping mechanisms, their pornography, their gambling, their cigarettes, whatever the fucking case may be.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's some person that but they can't go about any extended period of time without whatever it is that they depend on because they are unable to deal with the feelings that they have in the absence of them.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: Like for those people, it happened to be hunger, but for some people it's sadness, for some people it's confusion, it's anxiety, it's loneliness, it's desperation, it's being aroused, it's whatever the fuck it case may be.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: They can't handle it.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: So they start having a breakdown if they don't get their fix.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a terrible way to go throughout the world to just be beholden to something that is not yourself.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: I agree with you a thousand percent.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: When I quit smoking, it was like I'm tired of being fucking um chained to something that's running my life.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing with alcohol.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: It's like when you look at how much time, energy, money, everything goes into that drink.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: What a fucking waste.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's for all of the things, for all of those things where it's like you're putting so much energy into staying disconnected.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, Jason and I always joke around.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: It's like we're saying the better thing, right?
21:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, when you're actually able to figure things out so that you can get your food under control, get your fitness under control, you know, get outside and touch some goddamn grass.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: You know, All of the things that will make you feel better.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: We're saying the better thing, but then so many people want to stand on their business of excuses with all fucking 10 toes down of like, no, no, I can't.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: I can't be better.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: You don't understand.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm an addict.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: I have to do meth forever.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: I have a disease.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like you're your mindset is that it's going to hold you in that space.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think that's something, one of the things that's really dangerous about people that are in like AA for long periods of time and whatever.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: It's like you sit there every day and say, I'm so and so and I'm an alcoholic.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: It's like, I'm not an alcoholic.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: I had a problem with alcohol.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: I fucking quit drinking, right?
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Did I have to go to rehab to get sober?
22:40
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: But I don't, I don't lead with that.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: That's not something that I'm going to define myself as that the rest of my life because I believe that's a mindset.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm just not a I don't drink anymore.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Like that's a thing.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: If I wake up every day and tell myself that I'm angry, I'm just gonna be angry.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter whether I'm angry or not.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: Like if you wake up every single day and say, Yeah, I'm an addict, like why would you do that?
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Because now you're just living in this world of addiction, and this is why people struggle with the shit forever.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: And people argue with this.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: But here's the thing I used to smoke black and miles.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: My mother used to smoke cigarettes, whatever the case.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: People, but people don't go to any sort of 12-step program for cigarettes, for black and miles, for tobacco, whatever smoking products, right?
23:21
SPEAKER_01: And people also don't go the remainder of their life identifying themselves as a former smoker, even though on paper, the nicotine is just as, if not more addictive than alcohol.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: And on top of that, it's also the thing that you can do more frequently than alcohol.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: You could go the entirety of your day smoking and nobody will think anything of it.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: You could take a break from work and step outside and smoke.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: You can't take a break from work to go fucking do some tequila.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: You can drive while you smoke, you can smoke at some bars, you can't do meth in the middle of a fucking bar, you can't do any of that.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: Smoking is something that is set it it exists in such a way that you could do it all day and all night long.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: It should be the harder thing to quit.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: And I would argue that it is the harder thing to quit.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: However, people don't struggle with the remainder of their life going back to their tobacco because they don't spend the remainder of their life identifying themselves as tobacco people, like fucking idiots.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Yep, 100%.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: What you put into your mind as far as who you are, that is who you will be, right?
24:22
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole what when when we talk about people making excuses about I can't get better, I can't, whatever.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: It's like you don't have any, you don't have anything special, princess, that holds you to something that's different than other people, right?
24:34
SPEAKER_00: There are fat people that get skinny every day.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: There are poor people that get rich all the time.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: There are, you know, you can do all of the things, not if you're sitting there, you know, making excuses and fucking making it harder on yourself than just doing the goddamn thing.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, see, that's the thing, right?
24:48
SPEAKER_01: Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, I fucking hate it.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: Everybody thinks they are special.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: Nobody is fucking special.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: Agreed.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Nobody is special in the slightest fucking bit.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: Your childhood was not the most traumatic.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a fuck what happened to you.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: I agree with you.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: There is nothing that happened to you that you cannot simply forget about if you fucking choose to.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: Your addictions are not more powerful, your genetics are not the fucking worst.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: You, you uh did not were not born into the most poverty, you're not the most racism prone or whatever the fuck it is that you nothing, nothing in the world is fucking special about you.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Which means you can get in shape like everybody else, you can make money like everybody else, you can succeed like everybody else.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: If you stop telling yourself that you can't.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: Because if you believe you can't, you will be correct.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: But it's not because you couldn't, it's because you refuse to try and you convinced yourself that it was pointless.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're you're you're shooting yourself in the foot before you even fucking get out, you know, get off the starting box.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: Period.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: Why?
25:39
SPEAKER_01: Like the they're like the the fucking kids who refuse to try new foods, be like, I'm not gonna like it.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: No.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: That's what it feels like.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: It's exactly what it is.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: God, I'd love that you say that.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, I've worked with enough people who it's like we talk after after they've gotten some traction on things, and it's like, I'll work with people that are fat that go, oh my god, I absolutely can get a handle on this.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, yes, put that energy that you spent making excuses and trying to act like you were the special person that the caloric intake, you know, didn't work for, like you're some some special unique case.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: You're not.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: Like that's not how that works.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: But if you stop spending energy making excuses and put it towards getting, you know, doing better, you just start doing better.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: And then it's addicting because it's like, oh fuck, I can do better.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: And then you want to do more.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: And I watch as all of these people in front of my eyes just start taking baby steps and then walking and then running.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, anybody can do that.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: No one's special.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm sitting on this couch.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: I started with fucking nothing.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm here because I had determination and I wanted better for myself.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: That's the only difference.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing special about me.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: And this is this is the thing.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: I have a very, I have what people would consider to be a very large ego.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: I have a very high opinion of myself.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: And I will say I'm not fucking special.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: I did nothing special.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: Most of my life, I didn't even try very hard.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: I got in shape, half-assing workouts.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: I made money, half-assing effort.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: I half-assed my way ahead in life.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: And I once slept at a bus stop.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: I was the lazy, I I would be the kid in fucking PE class.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: We got to run a mile, and I would walk that shit, and it would take me 37 minutes because I refuse to fucking try.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: Nobody is fucking.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: I I'm not special.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Nobody is fucking special in either direction.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: You could just do things.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: Just do some shit.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: It's not difficult.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: It's really, really, truly not.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: If you want to be a bodybuilder, is that different?
27:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you're probably not trying to be a fucking bodybuilder.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: You're probably not trying to be a billionaire.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: You're just trying to be in shape and not poor.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: That's very easy to do.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: It is really easy if you just fucking do something.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: It is I know that you see you see a bunch of like super rich Grant Cardone, whatever the fuck say it's very easy to make money.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm not super Grant Cardone rich or anything like that.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: It is very easy to not be poor.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: It is like it's not difficult.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: And I say this again, as somebody who was extremely poor, not college kid poor.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: I ate once a week poor.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: I did not have heat in the wintertime because they cut my electricity off, and I could not afford to cut it back on and also drive gas to get to work.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: Like I've been very poor.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: It's very easy to not be.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: No, it's it's wild because you know, Brittany was on the on the show earlier and she's just turned 30, and we were talking about just she had different questions about her, you know, when she was younger and all the things.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: I was on access.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: I had that young lady on access.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: I was poor as shit.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: Like poor as shit.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: All you have to do is fucking try.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna make excuses about how I'm not going to try.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to try.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: And is it going to be hard?
28:24
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to have a comparison game about what yours is?
28:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, we had a we had an episode where we did kind of this fun show and tell because it's like so many people come from this place of we were talking about privilege, right?
28:35
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, what is privilege exactly?
28:37
SPEAKER_00: And I realize that everyone has their own definition of what that looks like.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: But if we deal out cards and you're a man, you're black, you're, you know, you have all the different ingredients that go into you.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm white, I'm a woman, I have, you know, the different ingredients that go into me.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: We can sit here and compare who has it harder, right?
28:52
SPEAKER_00: Like, where on the scale of points is it if someone, you know, spent their childhood getting fucked by their dad?
28:57
SPEAKER_00: Because that's normal shit that fucking happens way more than you would think, and it's fucking terrible that the petos sometimes are the family members, right?
29:05
SPEAKER_00: Isn't that terrible?
29:05
SPEAKER_00: Because in your world you think pettos are like some whatever.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so creepy dude exists.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: No, sometimes the creepy dude is your fucking dad, right?
29:12
SPEAKER_00: What kind of point system are we working on?
29:15
SPEAKER_00: Would you rather have that story or would you rather be black?
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Would I rather be a woman in an industry where I have to fucking fight twice as who cares?
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Like you're spending a bunch of fucking energy saying, Well, I can't succeed because fill in the blank.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: You're the one holding yourself down.
29:29
SPEAKER_00: I have seen people in every demographic fucking get over whatever the hurdles were that they had.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: So if you want to say, well, I don't know how to be good with money because uh because I wasn't, you know, I wasn't taught that when I was growing up.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you know, you you've been right raised, you've been risen.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, that we have this thing called the fucking World Wide Web.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: Go Google, go, go say, how do I get my shit in order as far as finances?
29:53
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm struggling in this.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: How do I get motivation um to want to have better fitness or to want to be better in my body?
30:00
SPEAKER_00: It's like these people who get to a certain place and then they go, This is what this is what it is.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm fucking 60 and I'm out of shape and I can't walk up a flight of stairs.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, you got exactly what you asked for, boss, because you didn't fucking put any work in.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: Right.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: It's you did.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: And it's like if you don't realize that every day, if you're not making investments into not being that person, then you got exactly what you fucking asked for.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: I think it's funny because a lot of times, like people in in their marriages, they're like, I don't know what happened.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, boss.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Why don't you tell me how much you spent time on your partner during that month and then just do a quick comparison, real quick, to check that social media time on your phone.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: You got exactly what you fucking ordered, right?
30:38
SPEAKER_00: So don't go, I don't know what happened.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, like it's children, it's fucking child's play out there with people that want whoopsie doodle.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's the same thing.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, I can't, I can't do this, and you spend all this time and energy making excuses.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: That energy, that same energy that you use to make excuses about why you couldn't do something, you could spend that differently on actually doing something.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, I was thinking the other day about, you know, when you go to like a Chuck E.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Cheese or one of those places where you have the games and it gives you all the tickets and you go at the end and you have that whole like wall of prizes and you're buying them with the stupid tickets.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: You're up there buying basic bitch bullshit with the same tickets that I have, and you want to fucking try to compare us.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, are you wild right now?
31:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's it's fucking true.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: I love it, Jason.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: It's so fucking true, and you know it.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: It's like, and then you want to complain and be like, I you think you should have the same shit I have?
31:32
SPEAKER_00: Fuck off.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: Fuck off.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: I make hard decisions every fucking day.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm the first one in and the last one out at everything that I fucking do.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: You want to have the exact same thing as me?
31:41
SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: I got tired of watching people drag themselves through life half dead from exhaustion, comparison, and bullshit.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: So I built a system that flips the script.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: This book is for the ones who refuse to settle, who know deep down there's more, and who are ready to call themselves out to level up.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: If that's you, welcome.
32:06
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32:07
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32:21
SPEAKER_02: No, I fully I I fully agree with this.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: But this is the thing everybody has exactly what they deserve and deserves exactly what they have.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: And people will sit there and try to come up with this other shit.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: I was in ex-relationship.
32:35
SPEAKER_01: You were in the relationship that you truly wanted to be in.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: If you weren't, you would have fucking left it.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: And when you didn't want to be in it, you did leave it.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a fuck what it is that your excuses are, why it is that you were there.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: There's a uh have you seen Saw?
32:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Saw, the premise of the Saw dude, the Saw dude puts these people in traps, little thing of my jiggers, and he's like, You could do this incredibly fucked up thing, it's gonna hurt real bad, and but you'll get out and you won't die.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: Like some dude had to cut his foot off to get out of some little chain thingy, right?
33:03
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, yeah, that sucks.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: It sucks to cut your foot off.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: But also you have the option.
33:09
SPEAKER_01: You can you can sit in this chain and you can starve in this bathroom, or you could cut your foot off.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: Both will suck, but you still get to pick what it is that you want to do.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people think that because the other option that they have is a saw instead of a key, that they don't have choices.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: You do have choices.
33:23
SPEAKER_01: You just don't like either of them.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: But that's on you at the end of the fucking day.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: So again, it goes to the relationship thing, the food thing, the money thing, wherever the fuck it is that you are is exactly where it is that you have chosen to be.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: You've chosen to stay in your abusive relationship, you've chosen to stay at your dead end job, you've chosen to eat all this fucking food, you choose to play video games instead of work out, you chose the the infidelitus, I don't know what the word is, partner.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: You chose all of that shit.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: You have it, you earned it, you fucking deserve it.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: And the people who have things that you don't have earn those things and therefore deserve those things.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: Now you can sit there and make the little argument that you want about the system.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: Is the system fucked up?
33:56
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: Is the system set up for you to fail?
34:00
SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: But it's not actively preventing you from succeeding.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Things are set up in such a way that you have to opt in to do it.
34:07
SPEAKER_01: You watch all the news, you feel bad about all of the shit.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: You go down the path that they point you down, and you wind up fucking fat and poor, but it's your fault for going that way.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: All they did was point over there and then you went.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: You're like, Well, I had no other choice.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, the fuck you did.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: You just didn't want to do that shit because that's not where everybody else was going.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, people, I said a thing, oh goodness, I said something about what did I say?
34:26
SPEAKER_01: I said, black people commit the most violence against black people.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: Someone left a comment on there and said, Well, black people didn't invent guns, nor did they put them here.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: That's perfectly fucking fine, but you still chose to use the motherfucking gun.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, Well, they put liquor stores in our communities.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: There's a liquor store up the street from my house, but I never fucking been to it because I don't drink.
34:43
SPEAKER_01: Just because something is present, it doesn't mean you have to utilize it.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: Like the blame that you get to place on other people gets uh only goes but so fucking far.
34:51
SPEAKER_01: That is absolutely ridiculous.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: I can drive 10 minutes from my house and buy liquor and cigarettes and fucking weed, probably.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure there's a dispensary somewhere near where it is that I live.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: I can eat pizza, I can do all this shit all day long, but I don't do any of that shit.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Because I have agency and I'm not choosing to do these things.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: By the same token, if I drive up the street to a gas station, buy a six pack, get drunk, and become an alcoholic, it's not the fucking QT's fault for being near my house.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: It's even less of the fault of the person who built the fucking QT for being my house.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: This is a retarded argument that only sounds like it means a thing.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: People make the worst arguments all the time.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: So stupid.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: And they act like it's fucking wise.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: Like this is a real thing.
35:29
SPEAKER_01: Well, they they set it up there.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: Who fucking cares how they set it up?
35:32
SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you talking about?
35:34
SPEAKER_01: How does it mean a fucking thing?
35:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, they put us all in the jungle, so we had to kill each other.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: No, the fuck you didn't.
35:38
SPEAKER_01: You chose to do that shit.
35:40
SPEAKER_01: Does it suck that they put you in the jungle?
35:42
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
35:42
SPEAKER_01: But you still chose what to do in there.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: There is, again, there is but so much shit that you can blame the fucking past on.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: You can say, well, slaves back, who gives a fuck?
35:50
SPEAKER_01: Women couldn't vote back.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: We don't live back in the fucking day.
35:52
SPEAKER_01: Back in the day, we didn't have the internet, but that's the stuff you're spending all day watching bucket porn, does it?
35:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, what the fuck?
35:57
SPEAKER_00: It's it's hilarious because it's like people get defensive when you and I talk the way that we are right now.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: And also, it should fucking empower you.
36:04
SPEAKER_00: You shouldn't get offended by this.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: This shit should be empowering to you where you realize, oh shit, I do have control over my own life.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: Because if I look at somebody who has their shit together, I can break down their choices and see this person consistently makes good fucking choices that led them to where they are.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: I can look at somebody whose life is in the fucking toilet and I can say, this person consistently makes small choices that fucking lead to where they are.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: It is literally just small choices, and doing nothing is still a fucking choice.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: So it's like I make consistent good fucking choices.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't make all good choices, but for the most part, I make as many good choices as I possibly can.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: I live the life that I built because of those choices.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: We should not be comparing each other to like, oh, she's got something or this person's got something.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I put in the work to fucking have that.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: You want the same thing?
36:51
SPEAKER_00: You put in the work for you.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: Right, you can have it.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: This is what people sit there, is like this person has more.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Who gives a shit?
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
36:57
SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
36:58
SPEAKER_01: Life is easier.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
36:59
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: Life will always be different things for different people.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: There is no such thing as equality, at least not in the way that people sit there and talk about it.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: You can have equality of opportunity in that everybody is free to make choices.
37:13
SPEAKER_01: That's the that's the most that you can ask for.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Because the thing is, if we take society and reset everything to zero, right?
37:19
SPEAKER_01: A bunch of people are gonna be poor and a bunch of people are gonna be rich anyway.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: That's how fucking things work.
37:24
SPEAKER_01: Because some people suck.
37:25
SPEAKER_01: This is life.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: This is life.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: If you have if you make everybody run a race starting from the exact same place, everyone's not gonna fucking win.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: Because it doesn't matter where you start, it doesn't matter where you are, it matters what it is that you choose to do.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: And anybody can do a different thing.
37:37
SPEAKER_01: Anybody could do a better thing.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: Even if some people cheated, whoop de fucking do.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: Even if some people got handouts, whoop de fucking do.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: You didn't go figure it out.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: Someone else did, you can too.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: Why does why do you think people put so much weight in shit like that?
37:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like you and I talk about, okay, you're the one who paid me the compliment or said the thing or whatever.
37:54
SPEAKER_00: I get to decide how to receive it.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: I get to decide how to be the one that's gonna live my life.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: But so many people come from this victim mentality, and it's like, you guys, there's no fucking power in victimhood.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: You can sit here and say, this is because uh, you know, I'm black, this is because I'm a woman, this is because I'm gay, this is because I'm, you know, literally fill in the blanks.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't fucking matter.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and then what fucking happened?
38:16
SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna do about it?
38:17
SPEAKER_00: Because you can sit and spend your whole life wasting all of that energy on holding yourself down, but understand that's what you're doing.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: You're fucking holding yourself down.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think because people go with what feels best in the moment rather than what will be best overall.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: Like right now, it would feel good to say, well, I'm fat because of my genetics and my parents and my my uh eating disorder that I got for my childhood trauma and all of that shit.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: And that's cool.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure that makes you feel better about the fact that you're a fat ass currently.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:44
SPEAKER_01: And it sucks to say, man, I just eat too much food and don't do shit and blame my problems, everybody else.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: And that sucks.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: But that's the thing that's going to help you be better in the long term.
38:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: The thing that's making you feel good now is a thing that's going to have you fucked up in the long term.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: Like I've never smoked crack, but I imagine that if I smoked crack right now, that would feel pretty fucking amazing.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: I imagine it'd be great.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: However, Jason and I are gonna take a take a after the break.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Get some rocks.
39:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I imagine, but in the long run, I will be fucked up because I see what happens to people who smoke crack.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: They wind up in terrible positions.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: So people just make the wrong trade-offs because everything is a trade-off at the end of the day.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: 100%, right?
39:21
SPEAKER_01: You trade your nows for your laters or your laters for your nows.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: Most people trade in their later for their nows.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: I I like to pay in advance.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: That I'm assuming you're the exact same person, right?
39:31
SPEAKER_00: Like I think that's a I think that's a a trait that you're either one way or the other, right?
39:36
SPEAKER_00: Like some people want to eat now, pay later.
39:37
SPEAKER_00: I want to pay up front.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: I want to pay up front so that it's easy after the fact.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't care what the fucking price is.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: If it's something that I want, I'm willing to fucking put the work in to get it.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, if I don't understand what the work is to get to whatever it is that I want, I will figure it out.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm a resourceful woman.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't make excuses about how I don't have blah, blah, blah.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: What does it fucking matter?
39:55
SPEAKER_01: You don't.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: Such is life.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I'm gonna start saying?
39:59
SPEAKER_00: When people give me excuses about stuff, I don't know, did you get fucked by your dad growing up?
40:03
SPEAKER_00: Because that to me is the fucking gold standard.
40:05
SPEAKER_00: I know too many people.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: I know half a dozen fucking women in my life that got fucked raped by their dad growing up, right?
40:10
SPEAKER_03: It's very depressing.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: It is depressing, and I'm sorry to bring that down.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: But it's like when you when people are like, yeah, but I'm whatever.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: I've had I've seen some people that have had it pretty fucking bad.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: You want to make excuses worse than that?
40:20
SPEAKER_00: Those those women have are fucking all thriving right now.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: They've worked through that.
40:23
SPEAKER_00: I can't imagine anything.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: I can't imagine being black is worse than that fucking setup, you know?
40:28
SPEAKER_00: I can't imagine that being a fucking woman and a man, male-dominated anything is fucking worse than, you know, that that dynamic.
40:35
SPEAKER_00: You know how fucked up you are in your brain after that shit happens.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: Like that's that's the thing.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: None of it matters.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, there's people who don't have legs who are doing great in life.
40:42
SPEAKER_01: You can walk.
40:42
SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
40:43
SPEAKER_01: You can see.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: There are people who can't see.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: I saw some dude who got his own clothing line who got his like face eaten off by dogs when he was a child.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: It's like, that's word.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: That's I don't give a fuck what happened to you.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: That's worse.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: That's worse.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: And and do you really want to trade your fucking problems for somebody else's?
40:55
SPEAKER_00: Because you can look around and find people that have it way worse than you do.
40:58
SPEAKER_00: So it's like, you get to decide.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: You get to decide.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: And not only this, not only this.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: People hate this shit.
41:05
SPEAKER_01: But whatever happened to you is not currently happening to you.
41:09
SPEAKER_01: So who really fucking cares?
41:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: Something happened when you were child.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you're an adult though.
41:14
unknown: Yeah.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: Something happened to you yesterday.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but it's today though.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: And then what happens?
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you talking about?
41:19
SPEAKER_01: Something happened to you an hour ago.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool, but it's now though.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, who gives a fuck?
41:22
SPEAKER_01: It's not taking place.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: If something's not happening, I don't understand why you care about it.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't understand what the big deal is.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: I have bad dreams sometimes.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: Then I wake up and the dreams are over and I go about my fucking life.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: What's the difference?
41:33
SPEAKER_01: Once it's done, it's just thoughts.
41:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:36
SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
41:36
SPEAKER_01: Think different things.
41:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Or enjoy your thoughts.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: Fucking whoop de doo.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
41:41
SPEAKER_00: The mental I think the mental strength component of it is so fucking important.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: I think people have literally no mental strength.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: No.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: And it's and it's their minds just run amok with them because they use the excuses and they hold that and they say that and they just that's their reality because when you say something enough times, it's like, well, I can't because of whatever.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, I can't because of whatever.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: You're getting everything that you ordered.
42:03
SPEAKER_00: So stop complaining about it.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: If you want to live in that shitty life, that's great.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: But stop complaining and fucking comparing yourself to people that are actually willing to pay the price to be fucking better.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, so that's that's the thing.
42:12
SPEAKER_01: Whatever you say about, whatever you say enough will be true.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: It will be your reality.
42:16
SPEAKER_01: Like I used to say I had a bad memory, and I have a bad memory.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: Then one day I was like, no, I have a good memory.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: Now I have a good memory.
42:20
SPEAKER_01: Look at that.
42:20
SPEAKER_01: You just say a thing and then you do the thing.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: It's really not difficult.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: I used to say that I wasn't a morning person.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: I wasn't a morning person.
42:25
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I just get up early now.
42:26
SPEAKER_01: So I got up early now.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: Whoop do you fucking do?
42:28
SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's but people tell themselves all this bullshit all day.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: It's all in the language, it's all the it's all the I can't, it's the must be nice, it's the lucky you, it's the if only I had, it's uh all this bullshit.
42:37
SPEAKER_01: It's just subconsciously telling yourself you can't be fucking better than you are, which is why you're not, is why you suck and why your life is fucked up.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: And people will tell me all the time, whenever I say something, they're like, oh my god, have some empathy.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: No, no, fuck you.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: Fuck you, fuck what it is that you're doing, and fuck all of your choices.
42:50
SPEAKER_01: You made these choices, you were perfectly happy, we were sitting your fat ass in the drive-thru, but now all of a sudden you can't breathe without running out of breath.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: You want somebody to feel fucking bad for you.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: No, fuck you.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: You did this, you were fine constructing this, make yourself better, or don't.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't really give a shit.
43:01
SPEAKER_01: But I'm telling you that you can, you're saying no, you can't, so fuck it, then don't.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: Right.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: Like I I look at that, I look at our society in general, and I think collectively, we just keep getting worse and worse and worse, right?
43:11
SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, I saw something where it was a post of like a family in the 70s and it was like this normal-looking family, and now it's like a family in the today's world, and everyone's morbidly obese and completely out of shape and whatever.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, you know, I had that whole, I did this whole thing about pedophiles, and it's like dads and and moms that say I would do anything for my kids.
43:29
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, if a pedophile at a park picked up your child and Sed walked away, you wouldn't be able to save them.
43:35
SPEAKER_00: Like, don't say you would do anything for your fucking kid.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's savage.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: That's I mean, I know that that's fucking savage.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: How, how in the world are you fucking saying that?
43:44
SPEAKER_00: How have we gotten to the place where it's like, and then I'm the asshole for saying, like, you should really do something to be in better shape.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: I can't imagine that carrying around an extra 400 pounds feels good.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: If you want to do that, that's your business.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: But you know, you could there's other options, like there are other ways to fucking do.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Things.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the I agree fully with what it is that you said, but this is this is the thing.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: Like people every time I say something about people losing weight, people pop up and be like, You're acting like being fat is a moral failure.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: It is.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: You have failed.
44:11
SPEAKER_01: You are fucking up as a person.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: This is a moral failure.
44:13
SPEAKER_01: You suck, you are a bad human being because you chose to be fat.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: 1000%.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: You chose your own selfishness and gluttonous habits and your appetite over everybody that you give a fuck about.
44:22
SPEAKER_01: Because you can't do anything useful.
44:24
SPEAKER_01: Like you say, if somebody takes your key, what are you gonna do?
44:26
SPEAKER_01: What are you going to do?
44:27
SPEAKER_00: And who do you think is gonna save you?
44:29
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole thing.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: It's like we get to this place where people think someone's coming to save you.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you guys realize this or not, but the fucking circus, and here's who the circus is, in case you haven't heard me fucking hammer this one home enough, is fucking politicians and politics in general, big far big pharma, and any sort of type of media.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: To me, that's the fucking circus.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: This is my view.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: When people talk about the system, politics, the media, the school, the pharmaceutical industry, the medical industry, the churches, and entertainment.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: All of this shit.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: 100%.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: The system.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: None of this shit is for you.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: Everything they tell you is bad for you.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: Everything they sell you is bad for you.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: This is where you get your ideas of body positivity and shit because it's bad for you.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: This is where you get all this mental health disorders and shit because it's fucking bad for you.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: This is where you get all these racism narratives and shit because it's fucking bad for you.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Everything they are selling you is bad for you.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: They are McDonald's.
45:18
SPEAKER_01: They are not selling you good, healthy shit.
45:20
SPEAKER_01: They are selling you shit that seems like it feels good, tastes good, but slowly killing you.
45:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: And and open your fucking eyes to that, right?
45:27
SPEAKER_00: It's like open your eyes to that shit.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: No one is coming to fucking save you.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: So we have this whole society of people that keep going down this path of just getting worse and worse and worse and less capable and less capable and less capable.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: Who do you think is gonna come save you?
45:40
SPEAKER_00: Because when you start talking about the have empathy and have whatever, I'm gonna take care of mine, just so everybody knows.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Like I fucking do everything that I can in my life to try to like have an impact, a positive impact on other people.
45:51
SPEAKER_00: But when the shit hits the fucking fan, I'm not gonna be out there saving people's lives.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take care of fucking mine.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: That's how that works, right?
45:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: So this was the this is this has been my thing.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: On some large scale, anything like that, that's gonna take people being together and coordinating and being on the same page, right?
46:09
SPEAKER_01: And if people want to do that, I'm here for it.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: But they don't.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: So because of that, I am here for what is the best that I can do thing that I can do for myself, because that's that's really it.
46:18
SPEAKER_01: Is and I'm not gonna sit here.
46:20
SPEAKER_01: If we're all stranded on an island, I'm not gonna drown on this fucking island because you refuse to participate in a boat building the boat, motherfucker.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: Y'all can all sit here and die.
46:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm out cool.
46:28
SPEAKER_01: You do you.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say, hey, we should all go build this boat.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: If y'all say no, say, oh, cool.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: Y'all can die here.
46:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm building a raft and leaving.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: That's on you.
46:36
SPEAKER_01: I tried.
46:36
SPEAKER_01: It's all that I can fucking do.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: And maybe I'll inspire someone else to build their own raft, and that's great, and that's amazing.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: But I'm not gonna die because you're an idiot.
46:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: No.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: No, and I'm not gonna fucking pay the price.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm you know, I'm not gonna spend my whole entire life making the hard decision and doing the hard thing to get better, to get better, to get better, only at the end of fucking end of the day to then help somebody that decided they wanted to be a lazy piece of shit their entire fucking life, and now they go, have some empathy.
47:02
SPEAKER_00: It's like, are you crazy from the sidelines?
47:05
SPEAKER_00: You guys just motherfuckered us about how what a bunch of assholes we were.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: It's like Jason and I have been on the bottom.
47:11
SPEAKER_00: Jason and I have been in the trenches.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: The things that Jason and I spend our time saying are the things to try to bitch slap people awake because I swear to God, people are walking around like zombies right now, and it's hard to watch.
47:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like if you're out there listening and I'm saying, wake up, and you're like, what is she talking about?
47:27
SPEAKER_00: It's you.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's you.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: It's you.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm talking directly to you.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, fuck life can be so much better.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you, like, what is it on a scale of one to 10 from when you were looking back before you started this whole improvement thing?
47:39
SPEAKER_00: It's not even on the same scale, right?
47:40
SPEAKER_00: Like it's ridiculous.
47:41
SPEAKER_00: Life is so fucking amazing because I stopped fucking making excuses and um playing the victim card and just all of those things.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: When you realize you have control over what your life is and it's just small choices, it's not like you have to come in here and overhaul everything.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: Make one better choice.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: Go to McDonald's one time less today, or go, you know, hit the gym one time more today.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: Go in there and just look around.
48:05
SPEAKER_00: The fucking heaviest weight in the gym is the front door.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: Just get in there to see what's happening.
48:09
SPEAKER_00: Go back the next day.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: Like, just be disciplined enough to fucking love yourself, to want better for yourself instead of arguing and spending energy convincing people that you can't.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you doing?
48:20
SPEAKER_01: So the way the way I look at it is you only need to do the good thing, the better thing, the helpful thing right now.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: It is it is not the remainder of your life, just right now you need to work out.
48:32
SPEAKER_01: Right now you need to eat better.
48:34
SPEAKER_01: And if you keep stacking it and keep doing that, you keep making your right nows good, then your life will be great and amazing.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: It is.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: And it is it is such a simple thing to do, and people procrastinate things all of the time.
48:45
SPEAKER_01: But if you just flip the things that you're procrastinating, like I'm I used to be a procrastinator, I'm still a procrastinator.
48:51
SPEAKER_01: I just procrastinate different shit.
48:53
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I want to eat terrible shit too, and I'm like, you know what?
48:56
SPEAKER_01: I'll do that tomorrow.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: Today, I'm gonna eat the good shit.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: Tomorrow I'll sleep in.
49:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, today I'm gonna wake up one time.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: And as soon as it's tomorrow, I could do all this other shit.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: But as long as it's today, I will do this.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: I really love that.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: I love switching the procrastination to things that are actually things that you are okay to procrastinate.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: That's a great, that's a great thing.
49:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, the mental strength component of it when we talk about mindsets and and all of the things, you get to change that.
49:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's you know, you it that that's in your control right now.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, there was a there was a time several years ago where I changed everything from I have to to I get to.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: It isn't I have to go whatever, it's I get to.
49:33
SPEAKER_00: And I know one of the things that you talk about is like going to the gym.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: It's like there's a dude out there in a wheelchair who would fucking kill to uh to do squats, right?
49:41
SPEAKER_00: You get to do those.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: You get to go to work to earn money for your family, you get to whatever it is.
49:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't have to do shit.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: I get to do those things.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: And as soon as you change that, it's like it just takes that whole icky layer of bullshit off of your plate entirely.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: So that's why I'm big on like not labeling things as anything.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: Like just let things be things, you know what I mean?
50:02
SPEAKER_01: Like you wake up, you're tired, it is what it is, but you don't have to go through the process of coming of labeling this way that you're feeling.
50:08
SPEAKER_01: It just is a thing.
50:09
SPEAKER_01: Working out is just a thing.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: Something happened, that's just a thing.
50:12
SPEAKER_01: You got a flat tire, it's a thing.
50:13
SPEAKER_01: Whoopty fucking do.
50:14
SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna undo it, so just let it be.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: If you can't make it good, then just make it be neutral.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you get to choose what things are, you get to choose how you see things, you get to assign your own values to things.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: And one thing that I'm a big believer in is what is useful is more important than what's true.
50:32
SPEAKER_01: So a lot I'll say things a lot of the time, and people will sit there arguing with me with their facts and statistics.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: It's like, I don't think you're right, but I don't care if you're right.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: Because my thing is the better thing to believe.
50:44
SPEAKER_01: Now, if I go about my life doing the thing that I'm doing, even if I'm wrong, I will be in a better place than if I did the thing that you're saying and you're correct.
50:54
SPEAKER_01: Because even if, let's say I'm obese, and let's say my genetics will prevent me from losing weight, I will still be in a better place living as someone trying to lose weight than I will be living as someone who has accepted that they can't.
51:07
SPEAKER_01: Because eating healthy and exercising is still the better thing to do, even if it's not going to make me lose weight.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: So why not go through life as though what I think is the correct thing?
51:18
SPEAKER_01: Why not go through life as though I can improve my, improve my depression, even if I can't?
51:24
SPEAKER_01: Right.
51:24
SPEAKER_01: Let's say that's true and I can't, and I'm gonna be depressed for forever, right?
51:29
SPEAKER_01: And I hate everything around me, then why not use the fact that I hate everything that I do anyway to do things that are gonna better myself?
51:35
SPEAKER_01: Because at least then I'll be depressed and rich instead of depressed and poor and fat.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: Like what?
51:39
SPEAKER_01: Like, just fucking do it anyway.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: That's a really great thing.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna hate what you're doing no matter what it is, then do the better thing.
51:45
SPEAKER_01: If everything if everything is truly that, if everything sucks that much, yeah, do the better thing to do then.
51:51
SPEAKER_01: You hate it all anyway.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: It's the fucking difference.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: Right.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: Also, if you're in a place where it's like you feel like, you know, you're stuck or you've been complaining about the exact same thing on repeat for forever, just try something new.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, do a different thing.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: Just to mix it up, just to see.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, one of the things that we talk about, and and Wiley was on, uh my son was on not that long ago, and he was bringing up one of the chapters in your book.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: And I really wish that you would tell people about it because uh the 26th, the Truman Show.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh if you haven't read Jason's book, highly, highly, highly, highly recommend.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: Just read my book.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's it's excellent though.
52:23
SPEAKER_00: Like it just, it's it's a the most beautiful bitch slap.
52:26
SPEAKER_00: And and for those people that need a bitch slap, which newsflash is all of us, uh, it's excellent.
52:32
SPEAKER_00: And they're just short, easy, you know, couple of pages, yeah, quick little two pages per, you know, per chapter, per idea, per whatever.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, but tell us about the trim and show because I think once you get that in your head, I do think you'd be a psychopath if you can't kind of get that concept, and then you're still gonna be like, I don't fucking care what people see, and you lay on the couch and are still a lazy fat piece of shit.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's because I like to make everything super simple.
52:53
SPEAKER_01: The basic premise of it is just don't do things that you wouldn't be comfortable with somebody else seeing you doing.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: And this will, again, unless you're just a completely shame-free person, then you're beyond help and you just go live your life as a fucking degenerate, wherever the fuck it is that you would like doing, whatever disgusting shit that you would like to do.
53:11
SPEAKER_01: But if you keep this mindset, this perspective of if someone was watching me, would I still do this thing?
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Then it will change almost everything that you do because it's very hard to sit there and make excuses and say, well, I'm fat, but I don't eat that much, while also knowing that everyone is watching every single thing that you eat.
53:29
SPEAKER_01: It's hard to say that you're out of shape because of your genetics while people watch you skip workouts.
53:34
SPEAKER_01: It's hard to see, like you're if you gotta be a complete fucking weirdo to sit around watching porn all day if you think that the whole entire world is watching you.
53:39
SPEAKER_01: This will prevent you from having all kinds of shitty conversations that you wouldn't have.
53:43
SPEAKER_01: It'll it'll stop the people who struggle with their infidelity issues or whatever the fucking case may be.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: It gets rid of all of your excuses of, well, I try, but I just am not getting any bit.
53:52
SPEAKER_01: No, you're not fucking try.
53:53
SPEAKER_01: Everyone can see the shit that you're trying.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: So just live your life as though you were just on display at all points in time.
53:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:59
SPEAKER_00: I it's funny because when I was talking to Wiley, he was like, God damn, that's good, you know?
54:03
SPEAKER_00: And and I couldn't agree more.
54:05
SPEAKER_00: I put a post-it note on my mirror that said the Truman Show, because that's what the title of that section is.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: And uh and I and I just love that because uh I I'm I'm pretty disciplined in the things that I do, but on the things where I try to get a little bit squirrely with myself, I remind myself of that and go, nah, I'd rather everybody else not see me.
54:22
SPEAKER_01: That's that's the thing, right?
54:23
SPEAKER_01: Is because by and large, whatever type of person you are, most people do what it is that they can justify and get away with.
54:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:30
SPEAKER_01: And when you take away certain things, then you no longer, you can no longer justify these things.
54:37
SPEAKER_01: It's much easier to justify a thing when it's a secret than it is when it's public, right?
54:40
SPEAKER_01: It's like with people like like lying, for example, right?
54:44
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people are like, well, I never tell lies.
54:46
SPEAKER_01: And I think that the better perspective is to never do anything that you feel that you would need to lie about.
54:51
SPEAKER_01: Because once the opportunity to lie comes up, it is far too easy to justify, rationalize, and moralize, regardless of how good of a person you are, because you can sit there and say, Well, it's the better thing for this other person because I'm not hurting them.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: But if your stance is I don't do anything that I would need to lie about, then you don't put yourself in that position to begin with.
55:08
SPEAKER_01: So it's avoiding having to do lots of the bullshit.
55:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, Jason, Jason and I both have very like same, like very simple, just bring it back down to the fucking basics.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: It's not supposed to be so, so complicated.
55:21
SPEAKER_00: We don't need to build a bunch of stuff on here about like excuses and bullshit and all of the things.
55:26
SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, we're gonna wrap up the show.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: If there's anything that I missed, please tell me.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: But I just get to the basics.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: Like that's the that's the that's the advice, that's the takeaway from our whole conversation is just stop fucking making something in your head more than it is.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: Stop making it harder on yourself.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: Stop, you know.
55:43
SPEAKER_01: So I agree with the basics thing.
55:45
SPEAKER_01: Every as a at the end of the day, despite what people will tell you, everything is very simple.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: If you want to lose weight, you eat less food.
55:51
SPEAKER_01: If you want to get in shape, you work out.
55:52
SPEAKER_01: If you want to make money, you do something valuable.
55:54
SPEAKER_01: If you want to get sober, you stop consuming whatever substance.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: If you want to get up earlier, you simply wake up earlier.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: All of these things are very simple.
56:01
SPEAKER_01: People overcomplicate them to procrastinate and have excuses to not fucking try.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: But it's all very, very straightforward.
56:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:06
SPEAKER_01: Which makes you even stupider for not doing things.
56:09
SPEAKER_00: I know.
56:09
SPEAKER_00: Jason and I are always like, you know, we're we're peddling like the better thing, right?
56:13
SPEAKER_00: It we're saying, like, if you're not sure where to fucking start, read a book, tap into a resource, go online, you know, do some searching.
56:20
SPEAKER_00: Why wouldn't you want to be the best version of yourself that you can?
56:23
SPEAKER_00: If you don't want to do it for yourself, do it for your fucking kids.
56:25
SPEAKER_00: And and not this like, I would do anything for my kids.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: Then show yourself the receipts.
56:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely do it.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: Show yourself the proof.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, that's when people say stuff to me.
56:32
SPEAKER_00: It's like, prove it.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: Because I prove shit to myself all the time.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: If I say something is important, then I do that.
56:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't say, oh, I fucking hate when I'm on social media all the time and then fucking keep getting on social media.
56:42
SPEAKER_00: It's like, that's making me sick.
56:43
SPEAKER_02: That's where too much time scrolling.
56:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the the thing that always kills me is people that go, I don't sleep well.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: And I ask the question, what what time do you tap out of uh electronics?
56:52
SPEAKER_00: Just out of curiosity.
56:53
SPEAKER_00: Will I take my phone to bed with me?
56:54
SPEAKER_00: Then you're getting everything that you're ordering.
56:56
SPEAKER_00: You're getting exactly what you're fucking asking for.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be a fucking scientist to know that if you're doing technology right up until when you're supposed to be falling asleep, you wonder why you're tossing and turning.
57:04
SPEAKER_00: Put your goddamn phone down.
57:06
SPEAKER_00: Read a fucking book, go meditate, go fucking do something that doesn't stimulate your mind.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, and it's like, I don't know why that is happening.
57:13
SPEAKER_00: Are you fucking kidding me right now?
57:16
SPEAKER_00: It's like, wake up, wake up, people.
57:19
SPEAKER_00: You're fucking literally being robbed of your fucking most valuable resource by all of the entities that we were talking about earlier.
57:25
SPEAKER_00: The fucking, you know, the big pharma, the media, the those all of those people profit off of taking your fucking energy and you're just handing it out and then going, I don't know what happened.
57:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, this is why we're so passionate about doing this, because it's like it's so fucking simple.
57:40
SPEAKER_01: So this is I know we're wrapped up.
57:43
SPEAKER_01: So my sister was a little while ago, was telling me about she had like insomnia or whatever.
57:46
SPEAKER_01: She was like, I'm not sleeping well.
57:48
SPEAKER_01: And she was like, What should I do?
57:49
SPEAKER_01: I was like, You should sleep better.
57:51
SPEAKER_01: And she was like, Well, it's not that simple.
57:52
SPEAKER_01: I was like, Yes, it is.
57:53
SPEAKER_01: Just stop telling yourself you have insomnia and go to sleep.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: Problem solved.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: And she was like, No, that's crazy.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: And then she got a book.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: There was like 300 pages, and then she called me.
58:01
SPEAKER_01: She was like, Well, I read this book, and it was just basically a really long version of what it is that you said, and it helped me.
58:06
SPEAKER_01: I was like, Oh, yeah, fuck it, what do you know?
58:09
SPEAKER_00: Siblings are great, aren't they?
58:11
SPEAKER_01: I'm doing a thing.
58:13
SPEAKER_01: Don't.
58:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's it.
58:14
SPEAKER_00: How?
58:15
SPEAKER_01: Just don't.
58:15
SPEAKER_00: You have the power to be disciplined to do that.
58:18
SPEAKER_00: And discipline, and you know, people sit here discipline, and it's like they think that that's a bad thing because it's like dis you were disciplined as a child or whatever.
58:24
SPEAKER_00: Discipline is just self-love.
58:26
SPEAKER_00: Love yourself enough to do the fucking thing that gives you the better result.
58:30
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
58:30
SPEAKER_00: That's all it is.
58:32
SPEAKER_01: So I have a new perspective on the discipline thing.
58:35
SPEAKER_01: And it is this I used to consider myself to be a very disciplined person, but now I look at it and I think I realize I'm not specifically super disciplined.
58:45
SPEAKER_01: Right?
58:46
SPEAKER_01: Going back to what I was saying before, people can do things, or people by and large, do what it is that they can rationalize.
58:52
SPEAKER_01: And I've just come to a point where I can't rationalize doing or not doing certain things.
58:57
SPEAKER_01: Like to me, I can't rationalize sleeping in when my alarm goes off.
59:02
SPEAKER_01: So I don't do it because it's it's not a so it's never a question of am I disciplined or motivated.
59:06
SPEAKER_01: It's just it doesn't make sense for me to do the opposite.
59:08
SPEAKER_01: I have an odd example of this.
59:10
SPEAKER_01: But every time I've ever been in a hotel room, like with some like high balcony thing, like some fucking 30th floor or whatever the case, I walk out to the balcony, I look over the balcony, and my first thought is always, you should totally jump off this balcony.
59:20
SPEAKER_01: Now I'm obviously never gonna do it.
59:21
SPEAKER_00: That's always my first thought too.
59:22
SPEAKER_00: I love that it's yours.
59:24
SPEAKER_01: But it takes me zero discipline to not jump off this balcony.
59:26
SPEAKER_01: It takes me zero motivation to not jump off this balcony, because that's a completely insane thing to do to me.
59:32
SPEAKER_01: It would never actually cross my mind, so I never need to talk myself into or out of it, because I wouldn't do it because it's fucking ridiculous.
59:37
SPEAKER_01: But I view skipping my workout the same way that I do jumping off of that balcony.
59:41
SPEAKER_01: I would never like I don't have to talk myself out of sipping alcohol because I I view sipping alcohol in the same level of irrationality as I do having a sip of some raid.
59:49
SPEAKER_01: That's an insane thing to do.
59:50
SPEAKER_01: So it never crosses my mind.
59:52
SPEAKER_01: So I can't justify these things to begin with.
59:54
SPEAKER_01: I think what most people have is a worldview problem.
59:57
SPEAKER_00: Same way.
59:58
SPEAKER_01: These things are acceptable.
59:59
SPEAKER_01: It's acceptable to skip.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_01: If you believe it's acceptable to skip your workout, excuse me, you need discipline to work out because that's where you need to force yourself to do it.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: Because to you, there is an acceptable thing that could take place or an acceptable reason to not do this.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_01: To me, there is no acceptable reason to not do this.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_01: So it never even crosses my mind that I shouldn't do this.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_01: I just go do it.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_01: Do I always feel like it?
1:00:20
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_01: Do I specifically have to talk myself into it?
1:00:22
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_01: It's just what I do at this time.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_01: And not doing it at this time is absolutely insane to me.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_01: That's a fully ridiculous thing to do.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: I love what you're saying.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_01: And when you sit there and start adopting these perspectives around these things, you you make because again, if you tell yourself something enough, this becomes the world.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_01: So when you when you start putting the perspective of going to this drive-thru is the equivalent to me of eating this backyard dirt, it would never even cross your mind to go through the drive-thru.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_01: It takes you no discipline, it takes you no motivation not to do it.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_01: And you could take this in if I was if you were to go up to somebody on a street, a random person, and give them a knife and say, I will give you one million dollars if you stab yourself, it would still be very difficult and probably not a thing that most people could accomplish, even though they have a financial incentive.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_01: Because to them, stabbing themselves is a completely insane and unconscionable, whatever the fucking word is, thing to do.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_01: So even when presented with the opportunity and something beneficial to them to do it, they still do not want to do it.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_01: Because in their mind it exists as such of a thing, as such a thing that's unfathomable.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_00: So just reframing the things.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_01: Reframe things.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_01: To me, skipping the workout I'm supposed to do is unfathomable.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_01: There is no world in which I can skip this workout.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_01: So I never have to be like, I'm gonna force myself to the gym today.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just it's non-negotiable.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_01: This is just a thing that I do.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_00: Well, we're gonna end on that.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_00: So uh everybody check out Jason Lamar.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_00: If you're not if you're not already on his socials, please get there.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_00: He's uh he's an excellent one to give a good bitch slap.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_00: And if he if it triggers stuff for you, good, it's supposed to.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_00: That's the point.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_00: 1000%.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much for coming in this video.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_03: Thank you for having me.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_00: All right, that's all we're gonna do.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_00: See you next time.