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Tom Zawistowski - WeThePeopleConvention.org · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: It's that time. You can find them online. We the
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  Speaker 2: People Convention dot Org. Welcome back to the fifty five
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  Speaker 2: care See Morning Show, Tom Zawastowski, it's pleasure to have
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  Speaker 2: you back on, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, glad to be with you. Brian Joe was telling me,
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  Speaker 1: you guys actually had some decent weather yesterday up here
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  Speaker 1: an actor, and it didn't clear up until about three
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  Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoons. So yeah, I was here here
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  Speaker 1: glad to hear Chris Smtherin say we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of this rain, because I'm thinking, man,
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  Speaker 1: I hope that happened as soon. It's been a rough May,
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  Speaker 1: hasn't it.
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  Speaker 2: It has, you know, timings everything. It's just kind of
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  Speaker 2: I must be sixty years old because I talk about
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  Speaker 2: cutting the grass and it's like it's such an important
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  Speaker 2: thing in my world. But thankfully yesterday did give me
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity to cut the grass. And it's commented to
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  Speaker 2: my wife about that, said, man, I'm so glad I
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  Speaker 2: got to cut the grass today because it's going to
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  Speaker 2: rain again for the next several days. And she kind
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  Speaker 2: of looked at me funny, and it's like, well, did
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  Speaker 2: in the grass need to be cut. It's like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it did so, regardless of whether we got
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  Speaker 2: three or four days of rain in front of us,
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  Speaker 2: I cut the grass. Yeah, give yourself a feather and
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  Speaker 2: a pat of the right.
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  Speaker 1: I did the same thing, and we finally broke like
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  Speaker 1: three o'clock. We get home from the parade then, and
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  Speaker 1: I went to it, and the first thing, I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta get that grass. I been raining for days.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, hey, little victories mean a lot when you're older,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we look at the little things, right, So
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  Speaker 1: that was good. I'm glad you got it done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm strung, you know, and I know we're not on
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  Speaker 2: topic here, but I'm trying to put a smile on
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  Speaker 2: my face. The lighter hearted things. I just came to
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  Speaker 2: the realization. It's almost like I spent the last twenty
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  Speaker 2: years of my life sort of looking at myself in
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  Speaker 2: the mirror and believing me to be a much much
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  Speaker 2: younger man than I was. You know, felt younger. It
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  Speaker 2: felt like a young you know, a kid still kind
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  Speaker 2: of acted like one, you know, lighthearted way, blah blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then one day I woke up
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  Speaker 2: and it's like twenty years of life just fast forward
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  Speaker 2: in a moment's time, and I look in the mirror
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  Speaker 2: and I see my dad every single day, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm an old man, and you know, all
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  Speaker 2: these kids these days, and I'm just I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: somebody else had to struggle with the same reality. I suppose,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just a weird thing. Get old, Tom it is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny you say that because Dan
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  Speaker 1: and I are actually having that conversation this weekend, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're with the family. So we're with our
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  Speaker 1: children who are in their thirties and you know, early forties,
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  Speaker 1: and then we're with their grandchildren. But you know, the
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  Speaker 1: hard part Brian is trying to is trying to convey
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  Speaker 1: that to them because you look fine, like to them,
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  Speaker 1: they go, you know, you look like you're fine, but
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  Speaker 1: like you're at the point where like, can I get
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  Speaker 1: out of this chair? Can I walk up those theirs? Hey? Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're not the parade three blocks away. Are we gonna
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  Speaker 1: make it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you can maybe feel a little bit better. At
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  Speaker 2: least I can still get up if I choose to
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  Speaker 2: do so. Because my wife's going right now? How can
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  Speaker 2: you don't get up more often?
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  Speaker 1: Then? Anyhow? Talk?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting little side roads, side road we went down
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  Speaker 2: in advance of discussing maybe rolling back the gas tags.
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  Speaker 2: I doesn't I hear these rumors and just discussions and
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  Speaker 2: maybe we have some sort of agreement with the Iranians.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's on a huge pressure, uh to get the
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  Speaker 2: straight ofup horror moves open, maybe so much so that
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  Speaker 2: he'll enter into what he might have previously characterized as
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  Speaker 2: a bad deal. But the economy is really heaping pressure
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  Speaker 2: down upon us. And the idea of rolling back a
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  Speaker 2: gas tax I think about it, about it kind of
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  Speaker 2: similar to releasing fuel from the Strategic Petroleum Oil Reserve
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  Speaker 2: to well soothe the injury that we're all facing as
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  Speaker 2: the consequence of the war that got started. So more
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  Speaker 2: with Tom on that topic, because I'm curious to new
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  Speaker 2: which direction Tom's on that. We the People Convention dot
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  Speaker 2: orgs where you find him seven thirty five right now
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  Speaker 2: shin Brian Thomas with Tom Zawastowski Quora, We the People
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  Speaker 2: Convention dot Org. You find Tom, you find his podcast
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  Speaker 2: every week and of course the types of topics we
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  Speaker 2: talk about Tuesday on here on the fifty five Carricy
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  Speaker 2: Morning Show, Tom Zawastowski, is it a good idea to
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  Speaker 2: roll back the state gas tax, assuming the will is
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  Speaker 2: there in Columbus? Is this a good idea? Obviously, it's
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  Speaker 2: designed to address what hopefully will be a temporary phenomenon.
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  Speaker 2: Although I'm getting less and less, I'm getting more and
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  Speaker 2: more concerned that it's not going to be a temporary phenomenon,
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  Speaker 2: or we're just going to enter into a bad deal
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  Speaker 2: with the Iranians. And that's the direction things we wake
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  Speaker 2: up this morning suggesting that's where it's going to go.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Donald Trump not getting everything you wanted, but to
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  Speaker 2: open the straight up hom moves in advance of the
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  Speaker 2: November election. I don't know if he's willing to take
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  Speaker 2: some lumps to do that, but clearly that is one
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  Speaker 2: of the foremost goals on his mind, because of course
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  Speaker 2: we're all struggling with the outrageous price of gasoline. Tom,
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  Speaker 2: is the tax suspension a good idea? Obviously? The infrastructure
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  Speaker 2: repairs are infrastructure dollars will still be needed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, and you know, and it is an
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  Speaker 1: important discussion, and I like the way you frame that
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you mentioned a couple of things. One,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the the letting our security are the duel
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  Speaker 1: out of our reserves. You know, President Trump's already had
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  Speaker 1: to do that twice to kind of ease things, and
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  Speaker 1: so that's what that's there for. And so then you know,
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  Speaker 1: you sit there and say, all right, are we going
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  Speaker 1: to get a deal, a good deal or a bad deal?
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  Speaker 1: We won't know obviously until we see the details and
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  Speaker 1: see if they actually do it implement it. So the
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  Speaker 1: problem is that it's not going to happen overnight. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have the opinion, and
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  Speaker 1: I know the stock market is that way. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you give them many hint that the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: deal is going to be cut and the stock market
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  Speaker 1: goes up, but that doesn't mean the price the pump's
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  Speaker 1: going to go down and that and that's really you know,
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  Speaker 1: the problem for you know, those of us you know,
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  Speaker 1: who are buying gasoline, and so you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's an important thing to as you said, a temporary
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  Speaker 1: measure to kind of ease things up fun people. But
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  Speaker 1: it's more important in Ohio, Brian than it is if
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  Speaker 1: it go to wead the People Convention dot Org. You'll
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  Speaker 1: see an article about, you know, our states states are
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  Speaker 1: suspending their gas tax as yours, your state doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And then if you see my video there, you click
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  Speaker 1: on it and I'll talk about Ohio. What set me
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  Speaker 1: off on this trail about two weeks ago was now
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  Speaker 1: this idea came up time Matthews from Finley said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'd like to look at suspending the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the gas tax, maybe even partially suspending it, maybe for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months. And then the story comes out
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  Speaker 1: that Ohio has collected one point two billion dollars more
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  Speaker 1: than they need in taxes on us okay, on personal
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  Speaker 1: property tax, on car taxes and stuff. They have one
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  Speaker 1: point two billion dollars of our money that isn't even
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  Speaker 1: in the budget. That is just extra. And that's when
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  Speaker 1: I said, enough, listen, we need our money back. Mike
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  Speaker 1: the wide give us our money back. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: the fastest and most efficient way to get our money
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  Speaker 1: back from the state would be to suspend the gas
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  Speaker 1: tax from now until the end of the year, or
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  Speaker 1: until gasoline gets below three dollars a gallon. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's reasonable because that's our money and it would help people.
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  Speaker 2: So your observation is that, well, if we don't collect
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  Speaker 2: the gas tax, it's not that the roads are going
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  Speaker 2: to fall apart, because we've got a one point two
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  Speaker 2: billion dollar strategic I Guesstroy reserve like thing going on
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  Speaker 2: to the background with this extra money laying around, so
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  Speaker 2: we can continue to fix the roads using that money
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  Speaker 2: while we enjoy some relief from the price of the pump.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Mike the Wine. Of course, when this came
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  Speaker 1: out in the beginning of May, on May fifth, and
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  Speaker 1: it was getting some press, car Mike Dwine immediately came
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  Speaker 1: out and rejected it. Oh, we can't do that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't suspend the gas tax because you know, these
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  Speaker 1: roads need to be maintained and construction needs to continue. Right,
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  Speaker 1: and let's just be clear, where does all that money go, Right,
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  Speaker 1: It goes to unions, right cost to construction unions goes
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  Speaker 1: to Democrats for the most part. Okay, And then he said, so,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people want, you know, good rows, like I
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  Speaker 1: wish we could find some good roads, and you know
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to, you know, suspend the gas tax.
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  Speaker 1: And when this came up that we had one point
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  Speaker 1: two billion dollars. I called Robert Sprague, our treasurer, and said, Robert,
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  Speaker 1: couldn't the legislature transfer this money out of these the
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  Speaker 1: pounds that have surpluses into the fuel tax fund and
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  Speaker 1: therefore O dot and the construction wouldn't be affected at all.
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  Speaker 1: He said, absolutely, no problem. The legislature can should do
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  Speaker 1: that when they lower the fuel tax. So I said,
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  Speaker 1: let's go, what's your excuse. There's no excuse. And I
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  Speaker 1: talked to the big Ramaswami. I talked to Rob McCauley,
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  Speaker 1: I talked to you know, different Housemomder. I talked to
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  Speaker 1: Thy Matthews, and I said, you have no excuse. Help
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  Speaker 1: the people Ohio, and help us now. Thirty eight point
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  Speaker 1: five says a gallon, Brian. That's that's some real change, right,
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  Speaker 1: And forty seven sents a gallon for diesel for a
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  Speaker 1: tractor trailer company that'd been saving five thousand dollars per
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  Speaker 1: truck from now to the end of the year. That
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  Speaker 1: would really help us. And then Cincinnati. Right, you're on
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  Speaker 1: the border with Indiana and with Kentucky. If our gas
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  Speaker 1: is thirty eight point five cents per gallon cheaper, you
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  Speaker 1: think some folks might be coming over from the other
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  Speaker 1: states to fuel up because their taxes are up there too.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great strategic move. So why wouldn't we do it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'm wondering whether anybody is preparing piece
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  Speaker 2: of legislation that'll accomplish exactly what you say, Tap into
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  Speaker 2: the one point two billion extra dollars we got and
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  Speaker 2: allow that money to be released into the dwell for
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  Speaker 2: the highway fund while suspending the gas tax. It sounds simple, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: But is there anyone put in pen to paper right now?
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  Speaker 1: Well, there is time. Mathews has has actually, you know,
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  Speaker 1: put forward some legislation and it's being you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of manipulated in the process. You know, they're adding things
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  Speaker 1: to it. I actually, if you go to weeded People
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  Speaker 1: Convention dot org and you click on that story about
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the gas tax, you'll see my picture
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  Speaker 1: with the mike the wine over my shoulder. You click
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  Speaker 1: on that, it'll take you to an email where I
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  Speaker 1: give you everyone's phone number. I asked for vank Ramaswami
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  Speaker 1: and Amy Actor. I said, you want to be governor,
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  Speaker 1: how about showing you support giving we the people are
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  Speaker 1: money back by pushing Republicans and Democrats and the legislature
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  Speaker 1: to pass a bill supporting the gas tax. The bill
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  Speaker 1: is right there, I write, it's one paragrapher. I'm really
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  Speaker 1: hard to do. Right, Let's pass this. And then I
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  Speaker 1: give Huffman Matt Huffman, the House Speaker, and Senate Leader
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  Speaker 1: mccauleay's phone numbers and contact information. And then I have
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  Speaker 1: links for every you know for you to talk to
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  Speaker 1: your House and Senate member. Listen, this is bipartisan Democrats Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: What about your Democratic House members and Senate members. How
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  Speaker 1: about pushing them to give you a break, because guess what,
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  Speaker 1: the gas prices affect the least among us, the people
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  Speaker 1: have the least resources. So this should be unanimous consent.
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  Speaker 1: I want them to vote before the end of this week.
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  Speaker 1: So the reason I asked you to discuss this topic
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  Speaker 1: this morning is, you know, we just supported celebrated or
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  Speaker 1: not celebrated. We just Dad Memorial Day yesterday, which is
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  Speaker 1: not a happy day. It's not a celebration. It's a
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  Speaker 1: solemn day. But we acknowledged the people who gave their
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  Speaker 1: lives to give us the freedom, you know, to have
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  Speaker 1: the representation we want. And now it's a two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary where we're really looking at our founding
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  Speaker 1: fathers who said no taxation without representation and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm calling on your audience. I'm asking you get
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  Speaker 1: on the phone and call every House and Senate member
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  Speaker 1: and say you have no excuse. I want my money back,
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  Speaker 1: and I want it back now, and I want you
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  Speaker 1: to do it this week. I want them to do.
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  Speaker 2: We the People Convention dot org. It's easy to find.
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  Speaker 2: Just click on the articles link and you get right
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  Speaker 2: where Tom is recommending you. Tom hold on, I would
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  Speaker 2: to have a couple more questions on this, and I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of want to get a touch base with
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  Speaker 2: you where we are in connection with me here at
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  Speaker 2: fifty five kter CEV talk station by Tomas speaking with
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  Speaker 2: Tom Zwastowski. You find on my line at We the
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  Speaker 2: People Convention dot org. Tom, real quick here. On the
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  Speaker 2: oil thing, you mentioned Trump releasing oil from the Strategic
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  Speaker 2: Petroleum Oil Reserve. I've read a million times by now,
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  Speaker 2: so much so that I got to believe it's true.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not. I thought we were at washing oil
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  Speaker 2: so much so they were the leading exporter of oil,
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  Speaker 2: leading producer of oil, in the world, and everyone is
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  Speaker 2: lining up from around the world as we're dealing with
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  Speaker 2: this hour news closure to buy United States oil. It's
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  Speaker 2: not cheaper here in the United States despite an abundant supply.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that maybe because we don't allow refinering to the
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  Speaker 2: extent we could really need it here in the United States?
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  Speaker 2: Is it a refining issue? There go a regulatory issue.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Man, Brian, You're you're just really hitting on a
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  Speaker 1: key point. And this has been something that we've been
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  Speaker 1: the Tea Party started talking about seventeen years ago. Unbelievable
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  Speaker 1: and you talk about you know, like take California, which
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  Speaker 1: is good that you know, they suspend the gas tax article.
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  Speaker 1: Their average gallon price for Gama is six fifteen and
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  Speaker 1: six dollars and fifteen cents a gallon in California. They've
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  Speaker 1: got like the most oil of any state in the
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  Speaker 1: entire country. They used to have forty refineries, three left
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying to close them. They're importing oil from
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  Speaker 1: like Gulf States into California.
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  Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, we're fined stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right? It's insane And you're exactly right. The
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  Speaker 1: problem is that we haven't built refineries in the US, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because of the climate and all the other
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  Speaker 1: nonsense forever. So the oil that we have we can't refine.
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  Speaker 1: We have to send it out of the country to
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  Speaker 1: get refined.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, California regulates refineries out of existence because of well,
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  Speaker 2: climate change or something. They still buy the gasoline at
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  Speaker 2: a much higher price from abroad. Their hands are allegedly
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  Speaker 2: clean because they're not allowing the refining in their backyard,
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  Speaker 2: but they'll still buy the stuff, which is of course
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  Speaker 2: refined under much more toxic conditions in other countries where
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  Speaker 2: they don't have the regulatory scheme that refiners have to
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  Speaker 2: deal with here. I just I don't understand how this
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  Speaker 2: washes with anybody who truly believes in climate change. You're
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  Speaker 2: only going to get rid of climate You're only gonna
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  Speaker 2: deal with climate change if you don't consume the gasoline.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, under their theory and the whole climate hope,
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  Speaker 1: that's that whole climate hoax. Right. So we were in
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  Speaker 1: the situation, We were in a situation, you know, same
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  Speaker 1: thing with coal. Look what we did in Ohio, you know,
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  Speaker 1: forcing us to shut down coal plants and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because of you know, the solution and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, China, who's paying for all the protests
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  Speaker 1: in the United States against this stuff, was building a
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  Speaker 1: coal plant a week a week, every week for decades. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: no problem with China, because you know why, because they're
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  Speaker 1: the ones paying for us to protest. You're building coal plants.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's stopping with Donald Trump, and love him or
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  Speaker 1: hate him, you gotta admit he's got us on the
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  Speaker 1: right track. We are starting to build some refineries, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so we can start to do it. And we're not
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  Speaker 1: stopping even with you know, we are doing you know,
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  Speaker 1: nuclear and other energy, which by the way, was very
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  Speaker 1: clean in Ohio. You know, we have a comic called
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  Speaker 1: Bathcox and Wilcox has really founded the whole nuclear energy
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  Speaker 1: industry here and up in the northeast Ohio. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: couldn't build any power plants. It's it's was an assassination
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  Speaker 1: of our energy sector. And this fuel tax thing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're exactly right. We've got all this oil. Why are
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  Speaker 1: we paying so much? You know, because it doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: passed to the people. And that's what I want to see.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see our legislature respond to the needs
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  Speaker 1: of the people. And you mentioned the property tax. What's
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  Speaker 1: the whole reason that Brian Massey and those guys are
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  Speaker 1: trying to repeal the property tax because we can't get
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  Speaker 1: the government to listen to us and admit that it's
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  Speaker 1: egregious that they're taking way too much of our money
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  Speaker 1: and give it back to us. So they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: force them with a constitutional amendment. We shouldn't have to
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  Speaker 1: do that. It's easier than getting a constitutional amendment. Call
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  Speaker 1: your legislators today all week. Drive them crazy. Call Hoffman,
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  Speaker 1: call McCauley in the Senate, call the bank rummus Wan
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  Speaker 1: me and Amy act In and say, listen, we want
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  Speaker 1: our money back. You took one point two billion more
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: than you even need. We need give it back to us.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Now, do you have before we part company Tom's Alsosky,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: any idea where the state is in so far as
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: signature gathering for that constitutional amendment?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they did, you know, if you recall, they announced
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: they had three hundred thousand signatures. They need like four
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen thousand valid signatures. But to get four
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: and fifteen thousand valids, you know their goal was to
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: get six hundred thousand signatures. After that announcement, which is
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: now like six weeks ago, they've seen a surge. People
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: have gone to Axohio tax dot com, which is a
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: really nice website. If you've gone there, it lists all
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: the counties that tell you can click on a map
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  Speaker 1: of the counts and they'll tell you where you can
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  Speaker 1: go to sign up to you know, to get it
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: on the on the ballot. And so they've seen a surge.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to get there, Brian.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It's a heavy lift. I'm one of the few people
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: alive who's ever done this when I was with the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Ohio Liberty Coalition and we did the Ohio Healthcare Amendment.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: It's a heavy lift. But it's great that they're doing that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And you should go to axohiotax dot com and check
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  Speaker 1: it out and help them out because you can volunteer,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you can collect signatures, you know yourself, and you can
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: go sign yourself. But I hope they can get it done,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: cause I'm afraid if they don't get it done, we're
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: never gonna get it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Probably tax Release well, there certainly is that possibility. Although
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I have some measure of confidence in v V Ramasamy's
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: pledge to roll it back at least till twenty nineteen
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: as an initial measure. Tom's alistas. You can go to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: his website we the People Convention dot org, check it
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  Speaker 2: out and tune in next week. We'll do this again
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: next week. Tom, always a pleasure to having you on
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the show Man.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Have a great week you too,