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Fraud Friday: The Fake Bootsy Collins w/ Ian Lara · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin Congregation?
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  Speaker 2: Is your girl?
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  Speaker 1: Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of
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  Speaker 1: Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam
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  Speaker 1: Goddess bault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring
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  Speaker 1: back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this
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  Speaker 1: episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay scheming, scam, come.
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  Speaker 3: Fro, scam come right, that's froll. Scam Goddess. What's popping Congregation?
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  Speaker 3: It's your girl, Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 4: I'm back with another installment of Scam Goddess, the podcast
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  Speaker 4: all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Each
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  Speaker 4: week I bring on some of my favorite, most hilarious
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  Speaker 4: comedians and we get into it and guys, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm very yes excited. Oh, it's so good to hear
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  Speaker 4: from y'all. Y'all having a good y'all having a good week.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I hate to hear that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good for you. Come on here a social.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I am very excited. Today we have an amazing
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  Speaker 4: stand up comedian. He's a rising comic who's been featured
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  Speaker 4: on Comedy Central, HBO Latinos Internos franchise and NBC's The
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  Speaker 4: Tonight Show with Jimmy Ballan. Check out his new HBO
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  Speaker 4: Max comedy special entitled Romantic Comedy, directed by comedian and
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  Speaker 4: friend of the show Ada roch Rigers. Yes, love that
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  Speaker 4: New York Queen Congregation. Please welcome Ian Laara to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, n Hey, Hey, thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 2: That was such a great introduction. I appreciate thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much.
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  Speaker 4: For being here. Okay, so I'm guessing from the rundown
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  Speaker 4: here I didn't know. Are you ap Latino?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Where are you from?
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  Speaker 2: Dominican?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: I used to be fake Dominican. I speak Spanish so
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  Speaker 4: good people would be like, are you Dominican.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be like, see, yeah, where are you from? I'm Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Oh why do you speak Spanish because texts? Oh all right,
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  Speaker 2: I got it.
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  Speaker 4: I saw on your Instagram a very funny video of
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  Speaker 4: you wishing everybody like a happy day or a happy
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  Speaker 4: holiday or something. You're like, this is not about my
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  Speaker 4: new haircut, this is not about.
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  Speaker 2: That Thanksgiving. I'm trying to reach out to the fans. Look,
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  Speaker 2: it just so happened. I got a haircut that day.
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  Speaker 2: It just so happened. It had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: me making a real that.
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  Speaker 3: Was a scamming itself that you hit in several angles.
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  Speaker 3: Second like not, I just.
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  Speaker 4: Wanted to all the people out there and then all
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  Speaker 4: the posts. I was like, sir, please.
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  Speaker 2: Look peer co incident.
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  Speaker 4: And I love that for you. So we always ask
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  Speaker 4: on this show, what's your relationship with scams?
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  Speaker 3: Do you love them?
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  Speaker 4: Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? Have
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  Speaker 4: been running you scams? I know you live in New York,
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  Speaker 4: so I know you're scamming jacent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely scam adjacent. I grew up I'm from Queens,
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  Speaker 2: New York, where like I grew up, especially when I
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  Speaker 2: was in high school, there was a whole thing of
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  Speaker 2: scammers were going on who were running different type of scams.
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  Speaker 2: I never personally been in one, and I can't remember
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  Speaker 2: if I've been scammed. I probably have, But I definitely
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  Speaker 2: grew up scam adjacent. Yes, but I'm pro a good
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  Speaker 2: scam right.
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  Speaker 3: As long as it's punching up. It's not punching down.
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  Speaker 4: But living in New York, I know you were at
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  Speaker 4: least like in the cult the sack of scams like
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  Speaker 4: they were next.
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  Speaker 2: Year year I had a legal cable. That's a scam, right, Yes, it's.
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  Speaker 3: One of my favorite scam. Okay, see what you playing? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so you.
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  Speaker 2: Got to tell me, Yeah, I forgot. I forgot. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you normalize it so much that you're like, it's not
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  Speaker 2: even a scam. This is just what everyone gots.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I love that normalized robbery.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, it's just something we do, right, Okay, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: just do it and new that's what we do. But wait,
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  Speaker 4: so how did you get Okay, because there's you would
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  Speaker 4: have to snitch tel names. But there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: different ways to do it. You can do like the
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  Speaker 4: jail broken Roku. You can get somebody who comes to
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  Speaker 4: the house works for the company. Like what how did
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  Speaker 4: it come to be?
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  Speaker 2: Well, growing up, I had growing I mean I've come
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  Speaker 2: from a long line of illegal cable music. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: a long line. I was kind of grandfathered in to
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  Speaker 2: the illegal cable. So growing up, I remember, like you,
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  Speaker 2: when it was just cable, Like we would install cable
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  Speaker 2: and then the cable guy would come to install it,
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  Speaker 2: and then my mom or my sister would like treat
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  Speaker 2: him super nice, like offer him coffee something the drink
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  Speaker 2: to treat him very nice. And at the end they'll
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  Speaker 2: be like, hey, so how about you flip that switch,
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  Speaker 2: you know and open up that box for us. And
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  Speaker 2: he used to do that and then thenn it became
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  Speaker 2: a thing. Now I got like a family member who
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  Speaker 2: just sells cable. Like that's like his job, sells illegal cable.
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  Speaker 3: I love that he became the cable company.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, he's doing TV.
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  Speaker 4: He's that spectrum. He's like, I sell cable. I do cable.
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  Speaker 4: Would you like me to do it to you?
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  Speaker 2: That's what it's funny like because sometimes it goes out
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  Speaker 2: and you'll call him like he's like customer service, Like
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  Speaker 2: he'll put you on hold with like music. I'm like
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  Speaker 2: where you get music? Music? Where you getting music? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's just like the MTV old school eighties music playing
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  Speaker 2: in the background. I'm like, where you get this service from?
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  Speaker 2: And he'll hook it up like that's his job.
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  Speaker 3: Yo, he elevated. I would say he's actually.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, you know now, Yeah, he created.
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  Speaker 4: A professional where there was none, and I love that
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  Speaker 4: for him. Ain't y'all good customer service? Because specially when
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  Speaker 4: you get the botleg cable, that's it. You just hope
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  Speaker 4: it works. You pray, but if it goes out, you
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  Speaker 4: can't call anybody and be like, hey, I stole some cable.
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  Speaker 2: Can No, he don't have good customer service. You'll call him,
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  Speaker 2: he'll be doing something. He'll put you on hold, and
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  Speaker 2: it'll be music playing, but then you'll hear like fighting
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  Speaker 2: in the background. I'm like, you're supposed to go to
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  Speaker 2: like a waiting room, it's not supposed to be like
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  Speaker 2: music playing. And then he's fighting with his wife in
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  Speaker 2: the kitchen.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, that to me is bootleg cable, high quality service. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: he did put you on hold, he had to get
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  Speaker 4: through a dispute real quick, and then he's.
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  Speaker 3: Get back to you. Think about it. I was a
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  Speaker 3: hold with the Bank of America for.
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  Speaker 4: Like forty minutes yesterday and they still didn't fix what
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  Speaker 4: I needed them to fix. So at least if I
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  Speaker 4: her I was on Bank in America and they were
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  Speaker 4: like please in the back, I heard.
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  Speaker 3: Like account that's why I'm a home right, Like I
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  Speaker 3: would be like.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they're fighting for me, you're right. I never looked
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  Speaker 2: at it like that. I never looked at it like that.
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  Speaker 2: But although it's hard to it's hard to think that
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  Speaker 2: fighting for you when you hear his wife complaining that
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  Speaker 2: he didn't come home last night, right, you're like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I have anything to do with this.
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  Speaker 4: I think he is still fighting for you, because how
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  Speaker 4: is he his cable from his home office?
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  Speaker 3: He gets do it out of his home office. If
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  Speaker 3: his wife kicking.
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  Speaker 2: Out, He's like, I'm trying to I'm trying to feed
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  Speaker 2: the family.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fighting for his brick and mortar so he
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  Speaker 4: could continue to provide services. This is what I heard, right,
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  Speaker 4: put it out. Then where're gonna get your cable from?
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  Speaker 2: Never looked at it that way, But you're absolutely correct.
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  Speaker 3: But I love that for you.
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  Speaker 4: I love that cable was passed down in your family
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  Speaker 4: like a family heirloom. Everyone just doing buleg cable. That's beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: That's really beautiful. Well, we're gonna take a quick break
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  Speaker 4: for some non skim advertisings and we will be right
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  Speaker 4: back with what's.
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  Speaker 3: Hot in fraud Scam.
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  Speaker 4: God, And we are back, and it's time for What's
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  Speaker 4: Hot and fraud The second where we warn our listeners
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  Speaker 4: about popping scams on.
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  Speaker 3: The street, or more often than not these days, we
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  Speaker 3: get a letter from you. Guys.
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  Speaker 4: It's always snitch on your friends and family at scam
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  Speaker 4: got us pot at gmail dot com. Just make sure
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  Speaker 4: your scam is retired because we don't want to what Yes, fuck.
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  Speaker 3: Up your bag, amen, and I have to say, y'all.
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  Speaker 4: Have been coming in with the spiciest letters. I read
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  Speaker 4: this and I about died, So let's get into it.
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  Speaker 4: I do need something from me, Ian, if you could
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  Speaker 4: just give me a fake name. We don't care about gender.
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  Speaker 4: It could be any name for this letter.
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  Speaker 3: Gustavo, Gustavo, Okay, I love it. Hey Gustavo.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So Gustavo says, Hi, Lacey, Hello congregation. Okay, you're
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  Speaker 4: addressing the congregation. You're really getting up in church and
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  Speaker 4: giving a testimony.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So a few years ago, I had to live in
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  Speaker 4: a small town while my wife went to grad school.
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  Speaker 3: That way she could have a closer commute.
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  Speaker 4: We had to find ourselves a cheap apartment since we
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  Speaker 4: would be living on one income. When we found the apartment,
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  Speaker 4: we had downstairs neighbors who were always nice to us.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, like like your mom, Like the neighbors
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  Speaker 4: are really nice. Maybe offer some coffee, sure, pop a
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  Speaker 4: cable box or two. I love that also. I love
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  Speaker 4: the grift of a one income household. Like I want
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  Speaker 4: to go to school with somebody else just pay while
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  Speaker 4: I live with them for live.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's the dream.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want love to pay my bills.
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 3: Has love ever paid a bill for you?
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  Speaker 2: No? Come on, I mean the opposite. I paid some
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  Speaker 2: bills in my day. But it could be kept.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody could keep you a little bit, treat you like
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  Speaker 4: a treat. No, okay, Look at you paid your hair.
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  Speaker 4: Look at you rubbing on your hair.
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  Speaker 2: That you know bring bad memories? Oh no, okay, we
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  Speaker 2: don't want to get it now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the memory is. But you're just
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  Speaker 3: strogging on them. Follow that you like to show off
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  Speaker 3: like some went on.
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  Speaker 2: I remember. I remember. Look, it's a quick story. I
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  Speaker 2: remember when I was in college, like I was actually
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  Speaker 2: in school and my girlfriend at the time, she was
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  Speaker 2: like a nurse. She was like graduating nurse. She was
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  Speaker 2: making like good money, like and I was making nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I was making like one hundred dollars a week. And
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  Speaker 2: even then, I still like when we went out, I
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  Speaker 2: still had to like pay the like I still paid
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  Speaker 2: the bill. I still paid the thing. And I was
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  Speaker 2: like completely poor and she was like making like over
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  Speaker 2: one hundred K and still like that was the dynamic.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, listen, I'm not mad at her, get it.
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  Speaker 4: But but I will say though, like there are times
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  Speaker 4: where everyone has lean times, so we don't have to
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  Speaker 4: lean on the paytriarch you all the time. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: very weary of men giving my money to sit straight man,
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  Speaker 4: because you just it's treacherous out here.
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  Speaker 2: What does jender have to do with eating?
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  Speaker 4: Because men are notorious for being scammers. Every man is
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  Speaker 4: a scam. Okay, why that's okay? How is this whole
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  Speaker 4: world built? And how does it work?
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  Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, I'm a scam. I don't want to go down.
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  Speaker 3: Look, it doesn't mean.
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  Speaker 4: You personally have to be a scam, but the concept
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  Speaker 4: of manhood is a scam. But I want to ask, So,
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  Speaker 4: if you were, you know, still showing up Pampathy, you know,
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  Speaker 4: taking care of your girl Pamphy's dinners, where were y'all
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  Speaker 4: eating at.
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  Speaker 2: We were still going out, Like I would really like
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  Speaker 2: save up, like to take her out. But in all fairness.
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  Speaker 2: We had a com I think she just didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: She just didn't realize because we had a conversation about
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  Speaker 2: it where I was like, hey, I can't afford to
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  Speaker 2: do this, and then she was just like all right, cool,
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  Speaker 2: and then she started paying for stuff. She just didn't
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  Speaker 2: like see that. It just didn't register to her that
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  Speaker 2: a man wouldn't have money, all right, because.
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  Speaker 3: They steal it off.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you get paid way more than I do
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  Speaker 4: want dollars, So why wouldn't you have all the money.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but I'm your secretary. I don't make
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  Speaker 2: more than you.
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  Speaker 4: But that's good communication because the way this world is
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  Speaker 4: set up, who could have been making it.
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  Speaker 2: She was cool, she was cool. We just had to
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  Speaker 2: speak about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that good communication. And like, listen, I've paid.
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  Speaker 4: I've dated people where it was like I had you know,
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  Speaker 4: they had lean times, I had leon times or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and we would pay, you know, for each other or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I think that kind of reciprocity is dope.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But I do think it's funny that she were
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  Speaker 4: like so determined to like continue to pay or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like you was at the end when
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  Speaker 4: the check came, just like a little beat of sweat.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the thing that broke the camel's back is one
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  Speaker 2: time we were just having a conversation and she was
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  Speaker 2: like paying her credit card bill and she was like
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  Speaker 2: she literally just said this, like casually. She was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, I spent five thousand dollars at Victorious
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  Speaker 2: Secret last month. And I was like what and I'm
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  Speaker 2: paying these dinners, like all right, this is it. I
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  Speaker 2: can't keep doing this.
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  Speaker 3: What kind of bombshells was she by?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was, Yeah, Vitoria's.
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  Speaker 3: Secret still got that seven for twenty five. Right.
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  Speaker 2: She was going, she was bawling. She was boiling. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know she was living this lifestyle. She was boiling,
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  Speaker 2: but I should have known. One time I took her
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  Speaker 2: to like the Apple Store to like buy some stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and she like eight iPads.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you should.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm not paying for dinner. Yeah, she
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  Speaker 2: brought like iPads for her entire family. She was like
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  Speaker 2: boiling like that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's when we gotta we gotta
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  Speaker 4: start talking.
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  Speaker 3: Because the math is indeed.
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  Speaker 4: Not math, not math, and for sure, oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 4: but so they're they're living together, one income household.
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  Speaker 3: Downstairs. Neighbors are real cool.
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  Speaker 4: So Gustop says, one day he comes to our door
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  Speaker 4: and asks if I could lend him some money to.
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  Speaker 3: Send his son.
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  Speaker 4: So two layers like he could just ask for money,
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  Speaker 4: He's like, but it's also for a baby that I made.
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  Speaker 4: So get him some sympathy. I gave him twenty dollars
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  Speaker 4: and he told me that he would pay me back
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  Speaker 4: that week. Mind you, we were on a super tight
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  Speaker 4: budget and had no extra money. I told my wife
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  Speaker 4: about this, and immediately she said that I got played.
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  Speaker 3: I want to pause.
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  Speaker 4: There, never lend more money than you cannot lose. If
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  Speaker 4: you need that twenty you cannot give that twenty away.
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  Speaker 2: I learned that don't do it.
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  Speaker 4: But you got to learn that you do, because if
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  Speaker 4: you give up that money, every time you see that
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  Speaker 4: person even be looking at them like, oh, well you
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  Speaker 4: got money, particulate, but you ain't got my twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you got to starve us money check like, you'll
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  Speaker 4: hate that person, you will fixate on them, and you'll
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  Speaker 4: be mad at yourself. So wait, how did you learn
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  Speaker 4: that you can't let people money that you don't have.
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  Speaker 2: I mean even like when I started first doing stuff
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  Speaker 2: like and stand up, like when I first started making
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of money, like family, you know, even family,
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  Speaker 2: like they asks to borrow money and then you lend
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  Speaker 2: it to them, like oh like yeah, sure, for sure,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you need and then they just pretend that you know,
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  Speaker 2: they just pretend that you never lent them nothing.
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  Speaker 3: That's when everybody gets amnesia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you've become like an asshole for being like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: how about that money that I lent you?
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  Speaker 3: And if they gaslight you and like what you need
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  Speaker 3: is so bad? Why you need it so bad?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? It's mine, it's my money. Yeah, I need this.
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  Speaker 4: It's so funny to me because we can't forget our
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  Speaker 4: childhood traumas, we can't forget the bad stuff happens in
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  Speaker 4: our life. But let's somebody lend you some money that
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  Speaker 4: you don't want to pay back, Amnichia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've been lucky. I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 2: I won't, but I really don't like to borrow money. Same, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'll borrow money. Like let's say I go out and
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  Speaker 2: I first I lost my wallet. I don't have a wallet,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I'll be like, hey, lend me this, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not money I don't have. It's money. I'll just
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  Speaker 2: VENMO with you. So yeah, like I have the money,
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  Speaker 2: I don't borrow money I don't have. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 2: been lucky. Some people have to do it right, they
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: don't choose to do it. But some people choose to
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: do it, Like they'll borrow money to go party.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Which is wild because I've had that.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: And that's the worst because I'm like you, now you
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: in the club pop bottles on my die.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Yep, you ordered bottles of Andre with my coins. I'll
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: kill you.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: Know, that's the absolute worst of seeing people like living
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: it up on money.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: That's not theirs, although I do. I'm proud of them
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: because they were like, I'm not gonna party all my money.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I'm a party with your money.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: But there was a time twenty three or twenty four,
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: I think it was twenty three, and my car had
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: gotten told like twelve times. Those two listen to this podcast.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Know this, we're not going back into it. Don't judge me.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: What type of scam was you running with the tow
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: truck and insurance company?
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Bro It was bad.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: I knew the exact price that the costan you get
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: told two eighty three as long as you picked it
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: up on the first day, forty dollars extra each day.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: The people at the toe place knew me. They wouldn't
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: even have to pull up my file.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: It was bad twelve times. This isn't a year.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I mean it was like probably two years.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean time to be honest. To say that
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: your car got twelve told twelve times in an entire lifetime,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: it is insane. If you're in your whole life you
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: got told twelve times, people will be like, what was
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: you doing? The fact that you did it in two
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: years is highly impressive.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I just moved to La I was really figuring out parking,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: and I was a scammer, so I was trying to
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: cheat the system, and the system really cheated your girl, okay,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: and getting told when you don't have money is like
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: a life ruinner. It's actually super predatory because in nicer
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: neighborhoods they don't really have that many toe zones, and
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: so rich people don't have to worry about like oh,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: street cleaning or like oh I got to move it
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: at seven am for traffic and stuff like that, So
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: you know it is a scam.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: But the last time I got told, I was parking somewhere.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: That I thought was like not a regulation red zone
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: because some people would pay in front of their houses
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: red so people would park there. But I knew it
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: wasn't the city, so you know, i'd be trying it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: And I got told and I really couldn't afford to
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: and I had to ask my best friend to like
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: give me the money.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: To why I just told her.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I got told that she offered, and I took the
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: money and then I thought about it every day and
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: every night until I paid her back.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, cause you're a good person. I'll say
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, like to whatever's listening. Look, if you
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: ever borrowed money from somebody and you promised to pay
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: them on a certain date and the person don't bring
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: it up, don't that person didn't forget, Like I know you,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you try to pretend like, oh, like, no one forgot
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: that they lent you money. They know when what they
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: lend you, and they know when you're supposed to pay
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: it back. Because we don't mention it, that doesn't mean
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: we forgot.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Nah, I didn't need you a fool, No, you're just
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: polite and you're not trying to have an awkward situation.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: You trust the person you gave money to. No, I'm there,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: So his wife says that he or that Gustavo just
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: got scammed or played. It's her words, So Nostapa says,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I tell her that the guy is always nice, and
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: he said he would give us our money back. And
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: at the end of the week, I go to his
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: door and ask for the money. Okay, confrontational, he said
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: to give him another week.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Following week, tried again, and now.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: He's not even answering the door. This is for twenty dollars.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: America's down bad. I never see this guy for weeks.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I'm pissed and I want that money back. So I'm
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: leaving sticky notes on his door telling him he can
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: drop off the money at any time. I told the
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: building manager the story, and he just laughed at me,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: because Gustavo, now you're just petty.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Now you just now.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: You're just mad that your wife was right, that you
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: got played, and now you want to prove her wrong.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: And I love that for you. I love pettiness.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: So he didn't go to the building manager who laughed
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: because he's like, what am I I've been in I'm
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: not in it. He told me the guy was always
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: asked people for money to get to his son, but
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: he just takes the money and buys lottery tickets, like
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: you said, partying with your money. One day I get
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: a knock at the door and here he is with
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: two ten dollar bills and then tells me that he's
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: a man of his word. I get the money, but
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: this isn't the end. A few a few laters, A
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: few laters, A few laters, Gustavo, what is Look, I'm
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: started saying that a few laters.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: How much.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Are you black, Gustavo? Because this is given black timetelling.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what the people who listen to this
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: podcasts are the con all caps gregation. Okay, we are
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: fake religion. I'm trying to write it off and not
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: pay taxes.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: So here we are.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: But he said, a few laters, I'm stealing that, Gustavo,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: A few laders.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I noticed that he doesn't live here anymore.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Then one night, about six cops come to my door
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: asking if he still lives here. I'm super confused about
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: what's going on. Come to find out he had been
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: dealing heroin and had just recently kidnapped an older lady
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and was on the run. That this took a turn
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: at the end, and I was like, excuse me, yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: he said, I couldn't believe it. But my wife immediately said,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: saw that one coming saw out.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw on a twenty dollars borrow. That's that's wild.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how much are you? That's a Raymond you see it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: That's a reach, like you have a visions.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: So Gustavo says, definitely learn my lesson and now can't
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: bring myself to give any money to anyone, even some family. Oh, Gustavo, okay,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: don't let this heroin kinnapper sour you. But also YouTube
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Patty didn't let people borrow money because you are counting
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the seconds until it's return.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: But that's my thing, was like I don't mind lending money,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: like I if you need money, I want like and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I have it. I want to lend it to you,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: but pay me back, Like that's the issue, Like I
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: don't want to give you money, just pay me back
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: when you say you are. I don't even be putting
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: times on it, like I'll just be like when are
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you gonna pay me back? You set the time and
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I just say, Okay.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: That's smart.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I mean I took this stuff further recently. If people
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: ask to borrow money for me, I just give them
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: the money and then I tell them not to worry
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: about it, because for me, like I don't want to
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: stressing about it if I want to be thinking about it,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, it has been a lot sometimes.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So you're just giving away money, I don't do it anymore.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I had to like really sit down with my accounts
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and also like with my therapist and be like, why
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: do I think I don't deserve my things that I've earned.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: And worked really hard for.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: It was like a psychological thing, and I was like, okay,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: so then you know, the next time somebody asked me
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: for money, I would be like, I remember the last
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: time I gave someone money.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I knew it was going to be the last time,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: at least for a long time.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: But I was like, hey, you gotta start managing your
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: finances because you tell me all these stories about stuff
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: popping up all the time, and it's like, I freelanced
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: for a long time, so I understand that, like if
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: your money's up and down, like you have to be
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: prepared to.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Not get a check. You know how these corporations work.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: They want you to work immediately and then they want
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: to pay you forty five days later. So it's like
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: you have to understand, like you can't spend money that
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: you don't already have. You can't go out and spend
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: a check that you earned if you signing the mail.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: So I have those conversations and then I think it
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: kind of makes it clear to the person, like the
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: bank is closed.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: The last time I learned somebody money, like they start
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: they asked me to borrow money, and then they were
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: writing like a whole paragraph and I was like stop.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I was like stop right there. I was like, listen,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'll lend you the money, no problem. You need the money,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I'll lend it to you, no problem. The only thing
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I asked is don't make me look like a deck
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: where I have to chase you. Tell me when you
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: can pay me back, and just pay me back on
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: that time. That's all I asked. I don't want to
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: chase you. I don't want to be asking you for
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: money because now you're bringing me up a problem. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: don't want the problem I'll lend you the money, no problem,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: you can pay me back. They said, no problem, I'll
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: pay you back in three days. It's been almost three
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: months and I haven't heard it then from damn. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: this is like the other thing. It's like a friend
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you gotta stop over.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: At see that that's when you mess with the friendship,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: you have to stop over. I do this if I'm late.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I always give a lower estimate of what I'm gonna
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: arrive because I think that makes people feel better. But
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: in my head, I know it's gonna be later than that. Like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: if you know realistically how long it's gonna take, you
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: give yourself that and a little bit of extra time
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: so that you can actually make the deadline. Don't say
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be three days if you really don't know
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: the day nor.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: The hour, right right, Yeah, I mean I was like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: whenever you can, when can you pay back? Whenever you can?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And he was like three days and it's been three months.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: He should have said five business months.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: And he pretends he pretends it doesn't like he doesn't
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: even bring it up, like he doesn't like he's not like,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: hey give me till this time, Like he pretends it
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: didn't happen. Damn, I'm gonna touch him after this. You
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: got me riled up. I'm touching them.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I was on podcast and I just remember yep, it
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: shocked my memory. And you owe me money? And when
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: is it coming? Because yeah, that's the worst.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Like, especially if I see my friend, like on Instagram
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: stories or anywhere having any smiling.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, how you smiling?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You smiling?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: How you pick your lips to open up like that
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: and show all your teeth?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You owe me money? All right? Right, he does.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: But we're gonna take a quick break for some non
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: scam advertisements. We'll be right back with Historic hood Wings.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Brab run and where you're back, and it's time for
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Historic Hoodwings, my favorite part of the podcast, where I'm
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: going to regale in with the famous group of con criminals,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: maybe just one.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them, maybe they're goofy.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I want to make a note up tip here, because
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: we do not scam journalists. The story was researched primarily
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: from David Brown's Rolling Stone article Faking the Funk How
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Booty Collins imposters pulled off the ultimate music biggest scam
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: so shout out to David Brown. He will be in
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the footnotes if you want to click and read more.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: So we're talking about Booty Top. Booty Collins is one
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: of the most impactful, long standing figures in the tapestry
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: of American music, especially R and B, funk and pop.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: With his iconic look of star shaped glasses, top hats,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: sparkling attire, Booty became recognizable figure in the music industry
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: not just for his killer base but his signature style. However,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: impersonators used that to their advantage because Booty wears Hella
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: clothes like my guy looks like it's Halloween every day.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: So if you have a similar build, you could just
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: put on all the Booty stuff and we wouldn't know
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: if you were Booty, especially if it's white people trying
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to figure it out, like they can't tell us a
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: part with no hats and glasses.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Sure, for sure.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: And I actually worked with Booty Collins once. He's a
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: very fun dude, extremely tall.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I mean he looks fun. No, God, dressing like this
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: is not fun.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Not fun as him, he was wild and I can't
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: believe he was really getting down like that still, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: in his older age and I love that for him.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: He was actually him And oh gosh, who was the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: other guy that was on the show. It's not George Clinton,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: is it?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: George Clinton. I'm gonna spill a little tea. Did y'all
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: know they was beefing?
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: At least at the time that we shot this they
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: had We had to shoot them separately even though they
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: were in the same scene because they was beefing.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: And I was like, not the old man beef. Come
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: on now, y'all to open this, y'all too grown.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: But we had to shoot things twice because they refused
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: to be in the same room together. I was like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: but you'll never see that show. It's never coming out.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: But that's how he was amazing, So was George. But
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: also Snoop Dogg is Boosy Collin's nephew.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Real nephew or like, how Snoopy nephew not nephew?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, blood related.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Nephew related for real? Yes, long time.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Talented tall people Yes who love weed, love that for them.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: That's what they passed down in their family. So what
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: post pictures of boosies? But obviously he dresses very eccentricly,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: and you know, people couldn't Mike that easily. So a
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: lot about Bootsy William Earl Collins. There we go, a
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: very black name love that grew up in Cincinnati and
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: he was given his famous nickname by his mother. Will
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: grew up to join his brother Phillips Catfish Collins band
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: the Pacemakers, before eventually becoming the original member of James
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Brown and the JBS.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: So, two years after their time with JB, him and
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: his brother joined George Clinton Funkadelic, eventually becoming a part
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: of the larger rotating members of the Parliament Funkadelic, which
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: is p Funk. And so we have a picture of George.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, look at how all of them dressed. This
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: was like the original afropunk and I'm living yeah, yeah,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: like afro futurism. And it was really dope to see,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Like they really innovated so much in the culture. So
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Bootsy played on every Parliament and Funkadelic record until the
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: early nineteen eighties, and his signature look evolved to make
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: him not only one of the most recognizable members of
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: p Funk, but an icon and pop culture that echoes
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: to this day. In nineteen seventy six, Collins launched a
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: new level of pop stardom when he was made the
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: star of his own project, Boots Is Rubber Band. They
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: went from playing mid sized theaters to twenty thousand seat arenas,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: making twenty five thousand to thirty five thousand dollars a night,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: which in today's inflation coin it is about one hundred
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: twenty five thousand to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: today a night. I'm actually making that door stand up.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I mean you will if you're not already, That's what
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I mean. If you're not already, I'll ask you. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: wanna see you trying to chase down them coins from
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: your friend.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, going to give dollars.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be I wanted to be the smallest
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: twenty five dollars, and I want you to be that
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: petty and I want that for you. Like, bro, you
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: got an HBO Max Comedy special and you're over hunting
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: down your phone.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Boys, A deal is a deal. A deal is a deal.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: That's why you're not getting it back he saw on HBO.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: He said, I'm not mister HBO trying to get money.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is why though, that is that actually
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: is why.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I said not mister HBO looking for my coins. Gon
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: call Wonder brothers. He got you there.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: You should still get my money.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: So get my money. I'll post about it too. Follow
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: me because y'all, I'm gonna get this money.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Y'all follow you light, You're gonna get this money.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: He'd be wearing. He'd be wearing like mad designer clothes.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Like next time I see you, I'm gonna be like, Yo,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: give me those louise I need that so you fa
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: can sign.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Time to consign my guy, take it on down to
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: the UH to the When was that Buffalo Exchange?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Better go on down there and get my money. Okay,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I'm the next post. I see. I'm gonna follow you
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: in the next post. I see it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Better be you holding up twenty five hours like a
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: money phone.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that money.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: So you know, Boosy, he's booked, he's busy, he's making
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: all this money. He's popping. We love this for him.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So as this is developing, you know he's got the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: psychonic look. He's putting out these albums. His nineteen seventy
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: eight album Booty Player of the Year came out and
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: he had on fake cardboard sunglasses on the insight cover
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: for faces to cut.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Out and wear. So in the album, he was like, god,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: can look like me?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Girl.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Remember when albums had stuff in them?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, experience.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I got a do rag with a little bow wow album,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: a white do rag.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a it was an experience.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: It was and you were excited to purchase the album
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: and then see what was inside and what extra you know, featured,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: read all the lyrics and everything.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It used to be an experience.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Now you just stream it, yeah, which is a lot easier.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I will too, because going down to Sam good.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: A yeah Sam good Buster, not Blackbuster, f ye for
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: your entertainment? Ye? Yeah?
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Who else they got that record store that later, it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: like holding on as like a relic. Now Columbia Capitol Records,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Capitol Records. There we go, see I'm trash, but you
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: see that's best buy.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You used to used to go in the best
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: sign albums.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: It was a different time and sometimes I'm nostalgic for that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: But the also it's nice to just well, I mean,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not that old. So it was gone very soon.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: We was in the MP three players very quickly. But
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: now I don't know we're having the same problems. Like
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: you know, Ticketmaster is about to take a hit by
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the STC because all the scammers have overrun the site.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: And I knew if one of my friends at work
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: she was in line for the Taylor Swift concert tickets,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: but like in the online line, and she was number
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: sixteen hundred, and then you know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Ticket how fast was it moving?
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: It wasn't moving very quickly.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: A lot of people who were real people did not
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: get tickets, and then the bots were trying to sell
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: them for like thirty four thousand.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: It was right, scalpers bought all of them, right.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because people buy bots, and they used the bots
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: to buy up all the tickets and then they skyrocket
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the price. But it used to be you had to
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: sit out and what I'm told, you sat out in
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: the rain, or you know, you waited on the street
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: corner at someplace.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: But my thing is, what can't they just make the
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: tickets non transferable? Then the bots got no then there's
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: nothing they could do with them.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but for some reason they've been in enabling this
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: ecosystem and now we have verified users.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I guess because the tickets sell out. So they're like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: what do we care. We're making all money.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: That's true, that's very true.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: And then also the person who's left holding the bag
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: is the person with the bots. So hopefully they overcharge
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: enough to make back their money and not need to
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: sell the extra tickets. But if they don't for some reason, people,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: if you, if you a bot and you bought the
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: baby tickets.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I know you down bag.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Buying up the baby. Cossert and Smoothie King arenas like.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: God, he did Smoothie King.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: He did not do Smoothie King because Smoothie King said
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: they he couldn't do it. He has such little ticket sells.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: They said, no, sir, we're canceling this. You haven't even
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: afforded enough money for us to get security.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: We're not opening up the pressure shops.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I've read some articles that wasn't he giving it away
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: like out an Applebe's or something.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: A cheesecake factory. He was trying to give away the
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: tickets and some people weren't taking them. How do you
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: mean he did two for one? He did bogo tickets
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: at one venue where it was like if you buy one,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: get one free, because he was trying to get a
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: crowd there.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And I was like, baby, this is what you get.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: That's what you get from massage mey and homophobia, you
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: get bogo tickets.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unfortunate because he's actually very talented.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: He a little one dough. I used to love the baby,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: but he a little one dough. He's doing that same
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: song over and over, which is a scam.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: It's all a scam, y'all, like baby o baby.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: And then it's like due to grease, and then it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: however that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But he can't rise. Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like everybody got one good karaoke song. He
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: got that. He got that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you're trying to give him some grace, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: he don't.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was like, I mean I think he's good.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I still think he's good. It's such unfortunate thought. Damn.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I mean the Smoothie arena thing was crazy.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It was sad but hilarious.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Imagine the sky.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Let's see if you can get to come up in Okay, Yeah,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I go bad for the scalpers. I'll go bad for
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: the scalpers. They're like, oh, it's about to be a banger.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Imagine being the scalpers standing outside. It's just nobody coming
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: in the arena.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: They're like, did they get canceled?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I hate I actually I hate the scalpers well
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: because there it's like a they're a scam because I
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: learned this from from like the ticket from ticketing things.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: What happens is once you start selling tickets, the scalpers
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: come in. They're like, this is a hot ticket. So
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: like that's why you see like an artist come out
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and they're like, the tickets sold out in thirty minutes,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: and it's like that wasn't people who bought it, it
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: was bots that are going to resell it. So every
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: show just sells out with the bots thinking that they're
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: going to resell it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the middle man economy and it's killing us.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: But so he was giving out these par woards sunglasses
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: and people were putting them on or whatever, you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: enjoying the experience, and it wasn't so hard to appear
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: as him. It's calling some so forth platform boots in
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: addition to iconic star glasses, a top hat and glitterjeck outfit,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: because a lot of his outfits were like just the
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: same version. You know how now the rap girlies all
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: wear leotards, but it'll be like a different color, or
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: it'll have some sequence on it, but it's basically the
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: same outfit, but just like a different color.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: That's what Boosy was doing. Yeah, so it's very easy
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: to mimic.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Even George Clinton disguised himself and he's in his band
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: to look like Booty Gallan so he could hang out.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: With a girl.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: That's messed up. I didn't even pretend to be your
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: friend to go hang out with women. You tricking women,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and you tricking your friend.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: That ain't right. Well back now, I mean you could
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: get you'll get canceled for that now. But in the seventies, yes,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: in the seventies that was allowed, some.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Violation to consent. I thought I was with Bootsy right now.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That's like a pervert, you know again, I mean it
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: was then.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: People just were not talking about it. It's like, oh man,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I got got ye do right. So Collins found it
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: funny at first and even put it on his song
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: She Jammed, which is from his nineteen seventy nine album,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: and quotes he said, this is him said everyone they
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: were almost bootsy decked out in their star shaped shades.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Little boys and little girls, they were almost bootsy shining
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: all over the place, and actually I should have just
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: let him sing it, because that was trash what he's saying.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, I read the rest of it. As you can see,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: he sings it way better than I read it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: This will be futuristic now, and this was nineteen seventy nine,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: like that type of.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Uness it was, I mean, because they knew what they
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: were doing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: And also, like all of our music now is just
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: samples and interpolations, so we're listening to the same song
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: over and over. We're just like now people are just
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: rapping over it about how much money they have, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: you know how good the penis.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Is, which is nice sometimes when you're drinking on a
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Friday to.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Hear it is it is I won't lie, I can't lie.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Dance to some real hood's. Yeah, okay, so almost Bootsy
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: number one. One day, Archie I V, one of Collins's
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: early managers, received a call from headquarters of Collins label.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: The bourbon office was Warner Brothers.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: The employee said that Collins was in the office asking
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: for an advance on his next royalty check. It was
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: odd because versus checks were not handled by Warner Brothers.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: They were handled by George Clinton's company, so he already
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: asking at the wrong place for the money, right. And second,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: because Collins was in Ohio, so they were like, Boosy's
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: not even here and we don't even cut his checks,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: so what are you doing here? The employees stalled and left,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: and when he returned, the fake Bootsy had disappeared.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Obviously, he was like, well the jiggas lip, it didn't work.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: At the same time, there were also reports that someone
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: in Cleveland was going around claiming to be Bootsy and
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: trying to buy a musical gear on a store charge
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: account in his name. At the same time, real Boosy
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: was elsewhere in the country, so people all over the
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: country are like, I'm Boosy Collins. I'm like, where the
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: real Bootsy Collins please stand. So, though the incidents were
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: odd and a step from the previous impersonations, almost Booty
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: number one just disappeared as quickly as he appeared, without
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: seeming to done much damage. So this was a fake Bootsy.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: He popped up at the record level and was like,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I want my money, and they were like, who are you?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was like.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Never mind, forget it, don't pay me anything.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Right, He's like, I'll figure it out. Just don't call
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: a cop. It's just like speeds out and I love that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Give up the grip. He tried it, it didn't work.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Let it go.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do it at the club, you know what I mean,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: get some free bottle service, but you don't have to
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: do it again. But the first one, the first fake
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: appearance that he heard about, began to feel like bad
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: to Bootsy Collins. He starts to feel the weight of
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: like he has been walking around in this character for
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: so long that he's like, damn, now people are just
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: pretending to be me and it's working because I literally
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: dressed up in a costume every day.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: So being the.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Leader for the Land of the Band for so long,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: coupled with illness a motorcycle injury led him to take
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: a reclusive semi retirement at his twenty three acre ranch
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty two. So he was like, I'm tired
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: of putting on this drag every day and now people
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: impersonate me. I've become a cartoon. I'm tired. I'm sick
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and tired. And he had a most cycle access and
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: he was like, I'm gonna.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Take a break.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Understandable in nineteen eighty four, he slowly re entered the
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: business and began writing for new Prince inspired act called
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Microwaves aka R and B sing songwriter Michael Lane. So
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Michael Lane decided that his stage name was gonna be Microwave.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: And we got a little piece of microwave. Just play
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: a little bit of it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: This looks like a Dave Chappelle sketch.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: It way it really does.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: It looks like Prince playing basketball.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: This looks like a fake not should being the designer
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: of your time. Oh I love that. I love that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: So he starts writing for Microwave and they're doing the
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: synthesizer and all of that stuff. So by nineteen eighty eight,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: things were looking up again for Bootsy and he released
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: his first album since coming back, What's Bootsy Doing? And
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: met Patty, the woman who would become his wife. And
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: we have a picture of Booty and Patty together. I
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: like Booty and Patty. That sounds good together. That sounds
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: like people who should be dating.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: All this is fascinating because all this happened like we
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: still haven't even I'm still not even alive yet in
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: this timeline.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not either, And I love that for us,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: but also this looks like a fun ass time.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Bootsy has came in what through three different phases, I'm
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: not even alive yet, right.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: And then I ended up working with him, so almost
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: like look at the world just out here, so look
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I love that. Patty also was like I'll get some
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: interesting glasses as well to really look like I'm Bootsy's girl.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Because this is eighty eight and they're dressed that's like
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: seventies outfit or sixties I guess.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're a little may Yeah, they're a little behind.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's time to get well. The eighties
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: were a bad time for fashion.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I think they would being like hipsters, like they were like, oh,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: we're the vintage, we dressed vintage, you know.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: But also in the eighties, everybody's dressed like they were
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: all cocaine. So I don't think anybody would have thought
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: they stuck out. Remember that was like all the hairspray,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: that was like the sleeves just had to be past
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: the top of your head, like you know, everybody was
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: wildn So I feel like they fit in. So Booty
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: number two another almost Booty appeared this time more brazen
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: than ever. One day, Patty received a call asking if
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Booty had been in Los Angeles the day before, when
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: he was currently in Cincinnati. The call came from an
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: upscale hotel where a man calling himself Bouoty Collins checked
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: in and asked for free room and free room service.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I love that when people perceive that you're rich, they'll
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: give you things for free. But if they think that
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: you don't have no anything, won't.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: But it's like either way the person's not paying, Like
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: don't you waste your money?
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, it's so much that you don't even
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: really have to be rich. You just have to have cloud.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: If you have cloud, you get free stuff.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Cause like if you post it, then we'll get some
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: of the cloud, and you know, if people know you
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: were here.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think it ever works.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I mean sometimes it does, cause you'll see like a
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: restaurant or something that you never heard of. And like
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I remember working in restaurants in LA like when I
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: first moved here, and there were certain people who got
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: completely free meals, like expensive assed meals because they would
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: get photographed leaving the restaurant. And now we end up
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: in the tablets and people be like, well, let's post POPU.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Let's go over there and pay our real money. So
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: sometimes it works, but I feel like for a hotel,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: like y'all just get your money.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're that level, there's a there's a
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I think there's like a level of celebrity that that
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: works for, right, Like there's like certain certain celebris, yes
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: for sure, but you know I ain't getting photographed coming
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: out no restaurant and people are going I guarantee you.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: That, and I've gotten I've gotten that stay away from
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: that place.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Look, I've gotten the free meal. And they think that
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: it's going to help. And I'm like, listen, all right,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I'll take the free meal. You want to get scammed,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: you're asking to get scamed. I'll scam you, but don't
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: your clientele to turn over on me.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, you're saying that, but I don't believe that. Okay,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: we all hbo Okay, romantic comedy. I feel like the
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: girls might start going to the carry out you pick
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: up that.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I literally had this just earlier today to this company
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: sent me a full box of clothes. Like it's like
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I like they said they wanted to send me a package,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and I thought they would send me like a shirt
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: or two, but it's full wardrobe. Like I'm gonna have
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to start handing this out, like I have to take
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: like a clothes. I'm like, all right, I mean, I'll
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: post you on my story.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, you'd be surprised. So she
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you know the vibe. So she
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: received a similar call from a Las Vegas not long after,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: and then quotes they said, we have to say, well,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: that's not Bootsy, it's an impersonator. But he'd already got
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: his goods and done his damage. So the wife was like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: that's not my husband. But they were like, what he going? So,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: y'all gonna pay us? Or who's gonna pay what? It
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: seems like you need to call your bank, hotel?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to hit right.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: I would have hung up click.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: So during the spring, others continue to be fooled by
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Bootsy Number two, and he worked his way to appearing
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: at the New York Music Awards, an event also attended
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: by musicians such as Lou Reed, Paul Simon, and LL
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: cool J and Fake Bootsy Bootsy number two.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Boots number two improved on the scamp. He's good, So
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Miles Davis, he's great.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Miles Davis encountered Almost Bootsy number two in the lobby
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: of a hotel that they were staying at, where he
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: managed to spend an entire ride with them from New
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: York to DC. So, now, Fake Bootsy, imagine getting in
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: the car with Fake Bootsy and you're Miles Davis.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like, shouldn't you shouldn't you be able? I mean,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: that's a three hour drive. Shouldn't like? I feel like
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: something must be said where you're like what he didn say?
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Nothing?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: That didn't right? He was right. Something he gotta say.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Something got on that up, Like they gotta be inside
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: music stuff.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: They must have been. Really.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I feel like every time Miles wanted to talk Shop Booty,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Fake Booty number two was like, turn this all up.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite song right right right, because I mean down.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like if you asked him, like what type
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of guitar you use, he would be like, I gotta beat.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: He's so much y'all, Like what's happening? Yeah, I don't
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: know how you make it three hours and don't realize
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: you're with an imposter. So it starts to get weird.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: When Adam Holtzman, who was a keyboard artist, this is
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: a quote from him, he said, why aren't we going
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: out to a proper dinner and then saying goodbye? Like normal,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: if you ran into one of your heroes, you'd hang out,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: but it wouldn't turn into a twenty four to seven thing.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: So the real musicians and stars were like, it's getting
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: weird because fake Bootsy number two like, he's like, oh, well,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: shall going y'all.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Go back to the hotel. I'm gonna come with you.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Oh y'all want to go to dinner again. Let's get
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: breakfast in the morning. I sleep on your couch. And
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: they were like, this is not who's could just be
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: saying what's up and going home and we get dinner.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: But yeah, trying to live in my basement.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: He give me a head nod and go about his thing. Him,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: he'll try to live with me.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: You don't invite me to brunch?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Right? Boosy number two was like, let me hold twenty
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: five dollars.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: You know I'm Bootsy, you know I'm good.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: So soon after almost Booty began complaining about money, asking
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: the bass player for a handout, Oh my gosh, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: then disappeared. Exactly what we just said. Boost number two
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: was like, damn times is hard for me. Bootsy Collins
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: a millionaire ten times over.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got thirty dollars, right, Boosi, you're asking.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: For small amounts of money. He later made an appearance
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: of the Convention of the National Association of Music Merchants,
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: the trade group Institutes of Stores and Makers, where he tracked.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: He wrapped up limobils and had ten thousand dollars worth
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: of guitar shipped to Louisiana, so he got them to
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: drive him out to this event. He rapped up limobiles
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: and he also said, can y'all send me some guitars
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: to Louisian And I'm Boosty Collins, y'all know what I need?
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I know me, y'all know me.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: So Boozy Collins.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Manager Bill Waller ended up stuck with the invoices because
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: he's like, ye has sit it out of my manager,
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: you know him.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: A manager at Boosy he got me. I'm Boosy, I
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: don't care cash are too rich for that.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: So during all of these appearances, Booty number two avoided
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: playing an instrument at all costs, often changing the subject
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: or walking.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Away if it was brought up.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Wow, So he had a guitar as a problem and
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: they're like, let's little jam session.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: He just walks away. He can't go to the bathroom. Yeah. Again.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: So the last straw was when fellow bassist Freddie Perez
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: encountered Bootsy Number two, whom he tried to offload some
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: of his ill gotten equipment on.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: So Booty number two ran someone really in the band
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: and was like, you want these guitars that I have
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: sent to Louisiana mand made of fun.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: Booty's manager Bill and his lawyer Bob Donnelly began to
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: take legal action. They were finally able to get his
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: phone number through a DJ at a club, and though
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: many of the exact details have been lost at the time,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: in a sting operation involving Bootsy's team, Rolling Stone Magazine
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: and allegedly the f B and I, they were finally
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: able to take almost Booty number two down.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: So then the.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Magazine published the story of the experts in the eighties,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: and soon after Doug Sickman received a call from a
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: female college student in Boston saying that fake Boots Number
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: two was in her apartment. He told her to call
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: the police, which she did, and it's unknown what happened
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: to her. Oh no, what happened after boots number two
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: vanished into the air, So we don't know what happened
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: to him. He just I think he just took the
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: costume off and was like, okay, never mind, honestly, never mind,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: and he got awaited it for a long time.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: You know, it would be a real scam if Bootsie
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Collins came out and was like, that was actually me.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Yo number two, Bootsies, because there's a Boosy number three
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: and this is quick.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: He's like, I've just been living my life like this.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: But imagine if you impersonated yourself and then anytime people
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: it's just like if you get a credit card and
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: you go to the mall and you run it up
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: and then you in a fry report.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, it's honestly a pretty cool way
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to live. You just do whatever you want, and when
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: it backfires, you're like, I don't know who that is.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: That guy's wildin wasn't me?
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: This is the shaggy lifestyle, wasn't mean.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Right, So Boosy number three, this is the last booty
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: we know of. So though Booty number two disappeared, they
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: didn't stop trying. In nineteen ninety one, the Welsh guitar
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: band the Alarm encountered Booty number three trying to enlist
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: them for a live a type event to benefit the
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Gulf War veterans. However, not only did he not play bass,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: he raised suspicion when he tried to get the band
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: to pay for his hotel expenses.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: No, this is the Alarm Band and the hair is alarming.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: It is alarming.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: It's giving the in the eighties, nineteen ninety.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: One, it's literally giving alarm like a like a siren
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: that went off.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Right and then just like a cartoon, they had just
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: shot up in the air. And I love that for them.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: And he was like, y'all come to this benefit concert.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I'm Bootsy number three, I mean I'm Bootsy Collins. And also, okay,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: i'll pay for my hotel.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I'm Bootsy number three, I mean Bootsy Collins.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: So Booty number three was booted from the tour bus
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: along with a pet wolf shouting this is what Booty
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: number three said, Why do you have a pet wolf?
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Booty number three? This is too much Booty numb three
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: was shouting, you'll be hearing from my lawyers. You'll regret this.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I love your eighties. You're like, you'll regret this job.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: You'll regret this baby like love that I hope, he
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: shouted in Bootsy's voice is so iconic. So ex seb
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: me won of the real Bootsy Collins this movie, I'm
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: the legacy of all the fake Bootsies. He still writes
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: and appears on records, and it's even preparing to create
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: n f t s and Bootsy's bigcoin. Now, Bootsy, now
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: I'm starting to really think you might be all in
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: fake book NFTs Bootsy sort of scam imprusonators have moved
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: on to social media, where his wife Patty says they
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: still fight those who illegally use this image. But in
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: the age of almost or the fake Booties hitchhiking cross country.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: That's ended. But yeah, you can get on Instagram.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: And because he his fan base is in their seventies
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: as well, you know, sixties, like.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: They don't know if they're talking to the real Boothy.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: No, they don't, no idea.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: And now Twitter you can buy a verified check. So
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: the old Twitter girlies are really not gonna know if
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: they're talking to the real Bootsy right, all right, pay
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: for my hotel, baby, love it?
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: All right, guys.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: That brings us to the satisfyt of the show, the
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: end where I have to let Ian go. But before
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: we do that, just a quick scammer of the week.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: This is where we highlighted charlottean who's worthy of our
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: prayers or maybe not, we'll see. This week we're talking
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: about Derek Patterson, twenty three of Compton, California.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, Compton.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: He has been arrested for theft after stealing money from
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: his grinder hookups.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Damn, okay? He do look fresh? Are those verberry?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Can't? Yeah? Those look like burber. I can't see what
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: the belt is. Those definitely I think that birdberry adjacent
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: herberry blueberry, Birdberry little Brother.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: Blueberry, blueberry fire. I don't can't tell what that belt is.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: It almost looks like it's a Gucci.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Belt, Gucci belt, or it might be a Gucci belt.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that's two g's. Yeah, I think yeah,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: which is kind of tacky. I mean, you're putting birdberry
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: on Gucci is tacky?
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, if it's done right, I feel like if
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: he was gonna do the like mixed matching my patterns,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: then the shirt can't be white. Like the shirt also
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: has to be a pattern that ties it, like give
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: us a Clune moment. But also, every scammer owns a
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Gucci belt.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Out and Birdberry pants.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, I got about some Burberry pants can get but
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: every scammer has to have a Gucci belt in the arsenal.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: It's just a part of the vibes. That's what we do.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: So Patterson would meet up with men on Grinder and
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: while they were distracted, take the opportunity to borrow their
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: phone and.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Send cash to his accounts. Damn.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: So However, during one incident in July twenty twenty one,
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: Patterson's victim threatened him with a knife after he sent
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: himself three thousand, nine hundred and fifty dollars.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: That's bold, that's specific. Why not four thousand?
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Like did he think maybe something goes off? Maybe you
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: can only send a certain amount at once on cash?
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe you could only send a certain maybe
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: four thousands limit.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he was getting right under that because I
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: know on Ziel they have limits for daily sending.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think even Venmo. So maybe he was like, i'mnna.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Give you right, Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, and then.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Someone brandished a knife on him old school style. So
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Patterson also used the victim's phone to pay for hotels
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: and solicit money from victims friends and family. Wow, and
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: then he would plan to intercept it so he would
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: be like sending money to Nevada and then he was
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: gonna go to.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Nevada and get the money. Damn.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: In February twenty twenty two, Patterson again asked to borrow
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: his victim's phone, but then chase him with a stun
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: gun and demanded money.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: So now he getting violent.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: He robbed the victim of jewelry and one hundred and
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: twenty dollars, as well as opened a line of credit
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: with Goldman Sacks using their name. Now Golden Sax has
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: been tied up in a lot of fraud through the years,
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: so not that both to me. Pattison was recently sentenced
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: to nine years in prison in order to pay eighty
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: four thousand, one hundred ninety five dollars in restitution, including
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: a hate crime enhancement.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: He got he got nine years damn.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, because Gregor is in a website mostly for gay men,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: and so he's going on the site and it's a
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: hookup you know app, and he's going there and he's
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: taking their phones when they're not looking and sending himself money.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: And then he escalated it to like chasing people with
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: sun guns and just straight.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Up robbing them.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's wild.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mister Patterson, Derek, I don't.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Fuck with this. Yeah, that doesn't seem like something a
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: nice person would do.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: No, and also tender on the male smell At gay
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: bail Side and Grinder, they face a lot of scamps
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: because the way that those apps are used, like people
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: tend to like want a hookup faster.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: It's like a it's not a slow of a burn,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: Some of those apps even like have the location like
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: how far away are you from this person or whatever.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: So he's probably able to grift a few people a
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: day because people just be ready.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: To get that SWERVEO sure sure yeah yeah, and he's
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: ready to get Yeah. Ninety years that's a tough price
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: to pay.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Nine years is a lot. I think it was because
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: of the armed robberies.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: That Yeah, when he got violent, that's when he went out.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: And he was targeting queer people.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: So that is now is he is? I wonder if
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: he was also, I don't know.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: It doesn't even seem like he was getting to the
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: hook up, like he would be like, oh, go freshen up.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: And leave your phone, I need to make a.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Cover, make a phone call, and like how are you
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: getting their phones?
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: The whole point of those apps is like you have
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: to have a phone, So how you.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Get over here?
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah? You actually use my phone? I throw it out
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: the window.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have service or minutes or anything. My
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: screen broke.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: We gotta wait till after nine. I don't got anything.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I don't have anytime. It's not that's a good You
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: got a SIM card?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my phone will got a SIM card.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: It's more prosthetic.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just a look, I got used to having something.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: So so we always ask them this show, where would
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: you like to be found? Anything you want people to see,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: any places that they can follow you? Drop your socials?
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. My my HBO special streaming on HBO
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Max is called Romantic Comedy. Ian Larra Romantic Comedy. Please
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: check it out. I'm on Instagram Ian Lara Live uh
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: at my website is Ianlerlive. Dot com. I'm going on tour,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: back on tour at the beginning of next year, so
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: check me out there.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, and y'all get on Instagram for sure, because we
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: got to see if he gets this money back.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my money, and I remind you I'm
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: gonna call my lawyer.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: We will be waiting in the shadows. I will for sure.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: And you're such a funny guy. Y'all catch him on tour,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: catch a special romantic comedy. I'm living already, And thank
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: you so much for being on the show. You were fantastic,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: super funny.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: For having me.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, there's always guys. If you want to
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• 56:34
  Speaker 4: get it to me and more of my mass So
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