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Welcome Back RHOA! Season 17 Premiere Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Hey, it's Carlos King, creator, host and executive producer of
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the Kings podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to let you all know that I
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  Speaker 2: Rain Drops, the time has come.
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  Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan, Dustin Ross and Blue to Lusma under the
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  Speaker 1: Rid the talk about the season seventeenth premiere of the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta. So panel, should we start with
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  Speaker 1: our overall thoughts and then get into the specifics or
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  Speaker 1: do you want to get into the specifics first and
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  Speaker 1: then overall our thoughts for twenty What.
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  Speaker 6: Do you want to do? Carlos. We've been talking a
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  Speaker 6: lot this show, and I think.
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  Speaker 2: Ye I'll find out the way? Is there?
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  Speaker 6: This?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: So listen?
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  Speaker 2: How about wait?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, because we love the rain drops
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  Speaker 1: who are on their best behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Rain drops, let us know what y'all want.
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  Speaker 1: Do y'all wanted to talk about overall thoughts first and
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  Speaker 1: then get into the knitty gritty or do y'all want
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  Speaker 1: the knedy gritty first and then get into be overall thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Overall over it.
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  Speaker 6: Overall, overall, overall.
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  Speaker 1: Overall okay, bye, okay, So let's get to our overall
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and then will get into the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start with Blue first. I'm a virgin.
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  Speaker 6: You can't know how you do that with what's my first?
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  Speaker 6: Say that often?
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  Speaker 7: But that went That wouldn't mean you went first, So
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  Speaker 7: don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to talk you through?
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  Speaker 3: Just the whisper this all right? Blue? Listen, you know
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  Speaker 3: what you're here to do? You ready for? You watch
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  Speaker 3: that show?
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  Speaker 7: You know exactly how you feel about everything you know
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  Speaker 7: however made you feel, so all you do is got
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  Speaker 7: to get up here and say that ship just be
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  Speaker 7: natural wherever, let it happen, and just breathe.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, you're right, nothing in mouth.
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  Speaker 6: You gotta breathe, and it was out of your mouth first,
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  Speaker 6: and relax because if you don't really like it makes
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  Speaker 6: it worse and harder. That's true, it hurts more right college, I.
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  Speaker 9: Mean overall, I will say it felt.
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  Speaker 8: Like a tame intro. Like I will say this.
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  Speaker 9: The first thing is Poorscha throwing a couple's dinner at
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  Speaker 9: Simon's house with a rental boyfriend was fascinating to me
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  Speaker 9: because that man, like I feel like he like it's
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  Speaker 9: like a rental boyfriend.
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  Speaker 6: Like he's been. He's all over the place, the guy
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  Speaker 6: from Ready to Love.
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  Speaker 8: I've seen him several places, and so I'm wondering if
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  Speaker 8: that was really her man or not.
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  Speaker 9: So that was the first peculiar thing. Was what's Mike
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  Speaker 9: doing here with his with his broad back all over again?
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  Speaker 9: Like he's always somebody's love interest for something, it feels,
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  Speaker 9: and he's an actor. He's an IMDb page. I wonder
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  Speaker 9: if his name is on his IMDb page. Everybody looked amazing.
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  Speaker 9: I think Pinky is the one I related to the
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  Speaker 9: most because she was like, y'all nuts, it's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 8: That's how I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: That was my sense to me.
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  Speaker 6: She's like, God, damn kay Michelle.
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  Speaker 9: I love her and her dentist husband that she's just
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  Speaker 9: married on the fly at the courthouse because I love
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  Speaker 9: it when a spicy woman finds a kind man, you
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  Speaker 9: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: So I really like that.
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  Speaker 9: Uh Shamia surprised me because Shamia was a fave last year.
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  Speaker 9: But it felt like what you did to Claudia's cousin,
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  Speaker 9: It felt like everybody was behaving until she started snapping
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  Speaker 9: at Claudia's cousin out to Drew, and poor Drew never
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  Speaker 9: knows what's happening, so she's always confused, like who said that?
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  Speaker 9: And I will say this Angela. Starting with Angela I
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  Speaker 9: think was the perfect start because Angela is Angela should
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  Speaker 9: have been in the hospital with Cynthia Ballianini. I've always
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  Speaker 9: thought this Angela is a tried and true bona fide
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  Speaker 9: perfect hire. Whoever decided to start the entire season with
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  Speaker 9: Angela gave me hope that you you're gonna.
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  Speaker 6: Make sense this season.
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  Speaker 9: That editing choice of starting with her, saying y'all can
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  Speaker 9: say whatever you want to bout my husband.
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  Speaker 8: I don't care anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Loved it, loved it, loved it.
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  Speaker 9: Phago was a little bit inconsequential to me, but overall,
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  Speaker 9: I'm very curious about what this season is gonna look
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  Speaker 9: like because it felt like it was a standalone like special.
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  Speaker 9: Remember when Broba used to have like Candy Goes to Christmas,
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  Speaker 9: and it'd be like a standalone special. That dinner party
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  Speaker 9: could have been a standalone like. It ain't feel like
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  Speaker 9: a pilot. So it gave me enough to know the dynamics,
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  Speaker 9: but not enough to know what the hell's about to happen.
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  Speaker 2: That's the wrong.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 7: So I feel like we're off to the races. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: this feels very different from season sixteen. This feels like
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  Speaker 7: we have something to work with.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. I love the fact that in the very first episode.
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  Speaker 7: Of this season we had a scene with everybody and
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  Speaker 7: their significant other ish, you know what I'm saying, And
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  Speaker 7: we started off with those dynamics feeling good. The ladies
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  Speaker 7: look so beautiful, you know what I'm saying. I feel
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  Speaker 7: like we really had something good to start off with.
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  Speaker 7: I was cracking up that they had Porsche and Ky
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  Speaker 7: Michelle having a conversation about your reputation following you.
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  Speaker 3: In a negative way.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, this is hilarious that these are
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  Speaker 7: the two people that choose to have this conversation about
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  Speaker 7: deleting your past basically, but that was funny, so came.
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  Speaker 3: Michelle fit in.
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  Speaker 7: It just felt new to me, the way that watching
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  Speaker 7: this season felt, whether you whether the ladies are your
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  Speaker 7: favorite or not, this felt all new the way that
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  Speaker 7: season sixteen was supposed to feel all new. This felt
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  Speaker 7: like we're watching a new version of the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 7: of Atlanta. It feels complete, and I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 7: hearing from everybody. I'll just leave it there for now.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not saying nothing bad. I'll leave it right there.
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  Speaker 6: The word complete.
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  Speaker 8: I love that, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 9: There was something about it so full and comprehensible, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 9: Claudia Jordan.
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  Speaker 6: I thought I was a little boring, Like by the time, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: by the end the show, I'm like, wait, it's over already,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm like, what happened on the show? There was
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  Speaker 6: two different parties going on and then and the one
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  Speaker 6: party that he finally got over there Smia came in hot.
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  Speaker 6: Cynthia looked great. Angela's body is ridiculous, like my goodness,
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  Speaker 6: and she looks so natural, like her body is like
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  Speaker 6: so sent tall and lean and just I love her body.
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  Speaker 6: Came to show, was funny. I think she's gonna be
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  Speaker 6: great on the show Phasier and none of her jokes
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  Speaker 6: were hitting, like she lost that thing that she used
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  Speaker 6: to have. That just came so natural. I think it
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  Speaker 6: came like it's like if someone's a good comedian, right
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  Speaker 6: and then they go host a radio show, like and
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  Speaker 6: he's like, damn, they suck on the radio, but they
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  Speaker 6: but they were so good on stage, like she was
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  Speaker 6: so good before, but now I'm just like the jokes
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  Speaker 6: that corny as hell. I think she's coming off corny.
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  Speaker 6: I always have yeah, yeah, I was never a fan
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  Speaker 6: Porscha's man, he's a two B actor ready for love
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  Speaker 6: Country Wayne skits where there's a skit Weeg comes up
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  Speaker 6: saying he's gonna go on half Lives or a thing.
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  Speaker 6: It would have been cool if it was real, but
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  Speaker 6: Porscha kind of put a kind of I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if she realized it, well, probably when she saw the show,
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  Speaker 6: but she said that they haven't messed around for like
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  Speaker 6: nine months, and then they met and started talking before
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  Speaker 6: during COVID when she met Simon, like that's when that
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  Speaker 6: was all goes a lot of like cross pollination going
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  Speaker 6: on there, so she's kind of telling on herself. Again,
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  Speaker 6: it was obvious that wasn't her, dude, the way she
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  Speaker 6: kissed him. I kissed I kissed the fan more passionately
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  Speaker 6: than that. Okay, yeah, I kissed my cat. It was like,
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  Speaker 6: not a fan. She kissed that man on the mouth
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  Speaker 6: the way I imagine Carlos kissing the titty. Okay, so
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  Speaker 6: I really want that. It gave like.
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  Speaker 8: Just she was like the tip a little bit and
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  Speaker 8: ran off behind.
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  Speaker 6: It was all. It was all tip, no shaft, shaft,
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  Speaker 6: you know it was it was nothing and it was
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  Speaker 6: and shafts no one, no shaft, nonaff there was a shaftless.
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  Speaker 6: It was just tip. So it didn't give. But she
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  Speaker 6: looked great. A lot of hard titties though, a lot
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  Speaker 6: of the titties look really really hard. Yeah, the body
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  Speaker 6: parts look new. I need the lady to just be
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  Speaker 6: careful with that because you're all beautiful. Don't go like
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  Speaker 6: the wilder white women do Okay, y'all need it that
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  Speaker 6: it's too getting to the point where it's like it's
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  Speaker 6: very hard. It doesn't like it's very looks like a breastplate.
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  Speaker 6: It looked like the titties that Christy Nomes's husband had
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  Speaker 6: on some of them, some of them.
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  Speaker 3: Don't give me, please, don't give me started.
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  Speaker 6: Piggy seems fun. She's with the ships, but like it
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  Speaker 6: seems Pinky came in the way people come in that
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  Speaker 6: are not measured and coming with an agenda. She came
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  Speaker 6: in like, oh shit, oh wait, this is really I
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  Speaker 6: like a lot. I like that. I like that she
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  Speaker 6: didn't come in there with like I'm gonna be like this,
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna control the seat she's coming and like I'm
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  Speaker 6: in real time learning this like y'all are. And I
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  Speaker 6: like that. I love Angela and Charles Barkley's relationship, but
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  Speaker 6: I feel like I always leave his scenes like like
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  Speaker 6: this scenes like damn, Charles, I want you to have
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  Speaker 6: her back. It's a little bit more. And the funny
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  Speaker 6: thing about the show, the funniest thing the goddamn ghosts
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  Speaker 6: of Simon god Chef's kiss. Please do more of that,
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  Speaker 6: Please do more of that? And people. You know what.
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  Speaker 6: I know, y'all expect me to hate on Porsche, and
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  Speaker 6: I trust me, we have many episodes for me to
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  Speaker 6: do that. But I think it's bold as ship and
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  Speaker 6: good reality TV to have a party with a new
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  Speaker 6: dude in the house. You just gangs it from something.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not mad at it. I'm giving you a golf clap.
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  Speaker 6: I liked it. I'm not mad at it. That's good TV,
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  Speaker 6: all right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So guys are going to get into the specific So.
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  Speaker 6: Charles, sorry, Charles Barkley is the CTE.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a solid start. I thought like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we get to see I thought the stage was set
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  Speaker 1: for us to come like, okay, this is who we
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  Speaker 1: have and there's more to be desired, right. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was solid. I'll say this. What I thought was
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  Speaker 1: missing for the first episode was personal story, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought the party was way too long.
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  Speaker 2: It was dominated the episode, and I've been thinking it
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  Speaker 2: had to.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the party was enough for it to
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  Speaker 1: be thirty minutes of a forty two minute premiere. I
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  Speaker 1: would have preferred to see Kay Michelle with her husband
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  Speaker 1: and seeing why she's a housewife, like she's the talk
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  Speaker 1: of the town.
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  Speaker 2: She's somebody we're familiar with. You know, there's been tons.
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  Speaker 1: Of conversations about help, whether or not she belongs on
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  Speaker 1: the show, what is she going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Differently?
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  Speaker 1: To see ky Michelle's opening scene be a photo shoot
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  Speaker 1: wasn't to me. It wasn't the best setup to this
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  Speaker 1: iconic reality star that we know from Love and Hip Hop.
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  Speaker 2: I would have preferred to.
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  Speaker 1: See kay Michelle being introduced to a different audience as well,
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  Speaker 1: showing her talent.
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  Speaker 2: This woman can yodel, like, this woman can really sing.
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  Speaker 1: I would have preferred to see her with her husband
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  Speaker 1: and so that we can fall.
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  Speaker 2: In love with her.
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  Speaker 1: The reason why I loved and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: compare her because every season is different. I gave last
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  Speaker 1: season premiere a ten out of ten out of a
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  Speaker 1: ten because to see Shaniyah.
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  Speaker 2: Once again who we were. We knew about her, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you're poorgious friend.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know some once we saw how she lived
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  Speaker 1: at her home and her child, and we were she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't fan favorite immediately because we were able to be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh I this is oh ship. I didn't a cat
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  Speaker 1: like that I thought came Michelle deserved that same sort
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  Speaker 1: of setup.
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  Speaker 6: I have a question.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, I have a question about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Michelle deserved that. I'm gonna tell you
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  Speaker 2: a little again. I got your baby.
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  Speaker 1: I thought came Michelle deserved that set up. To see
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  Speaker 1: her in the photo shoot, I was like, it was,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was underwhelming for me, like a photo shoot.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you all the things that asked.
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  Speaker 2: I'll speak for myself.
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  Speaker 1: Child Carlos king no no to his producing scene. I
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  Speaker 1: hate a nail Solange scene.
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  Speaker 6: You gave me one on Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: Oh terrible.
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  Speaker 6: It was with Demetria and when you didn't really even
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  Speaker 6: show the feet because.
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  Speaker 1: Your feet, your feet was part of the joke, honey.
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  Speaker 6: I yeah, yeah, I hate.
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  Speaker 2: A photo shoot for the sake of a photo shoot, right, you.
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  Speaker 6: Sent me to a photo shoot.
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  Speaker 8: I don't want to stop.
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  Speaker 6: He wasn't really fun. What else do you hate?
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  Speaker 3: Listen?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I was ten years ago.
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  Speaker 6: You hate too. He probably does. Look at him.
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  Speaker 2: I love Oh.
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  Speaker 6: I hated my racial story.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if but I said this up a topic.
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  Speaker 1: I hate shopping scenes where you don't buy, no shop.
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  Speaker 9: Can you Carlotta stop your head, please stop.
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  Speaker 2: Please stop?
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  Speaker 1: No, so so anyway, I felt that to say, the
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  Speaker 1: reason why I was saying it was it was a
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  Speaker 1: solid premiere. I thought. I thought kay Michelle deserved more more, Like,
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  Speaker 1: give this girl show her singing so that the audience
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't know her can walk away saying, so that's
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  Speaker 1: what she does, and then I'm gonna get the pinky,
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  Speaker 1: and then we.
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  Speaker 2: Were gonna talk about the specifics U. I would have also.
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  Speaker 1: Loved to see Pinky in her natural habitat Pinky, to me,
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  Speaker 1: is such a powerful woman that to hear her say
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  Speaker 1: it is one.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, but I want to see it. I want to
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  Speaker 2: I would. I would have loved to see her at work,
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  Speaker 2: hustling and bustle.
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  Speaker 1: Her husband is as equally powerful as as as she is.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see this power couple. Let's let's see them at
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  Speaker 1: work and doing all these things. So to see her
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  Speaker 1: for the first time walking into MEA's house, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: And then to hear her say do this, I do that,
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  Speaker 1: and this is not her fault. I felt bad for
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  Speaker 1: Pinky because we now know what she's going through professionally
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  Speaker 1: following bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 2: There's a difference, guys. Now, personal bankruptcy is business bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, damn, it is sawt of lessen the blow
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  Speaker 1: right in terms of what a boss she is, and
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  Speaker 1: not saying that bankruptcy discredits anybody, because our president filed
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  Speaker 1: several times for business bankruptcy, so it doesn't mean anything.
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  Speaker 2: About your what she's able to do.
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  Speaker 1: But my point is I also thought, like hearing her
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  Speaker 1: say it fell on death ears because we see stuff
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  Speaker 1: in the blaws, we see her making skits, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought Pinky also deserved a better intro, and I would
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  Speaker 1: have preferred to see that didn't give me the party.
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  Speaker 2: But that's my overall thoughts, and that's why go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't it glue? Blue? I'm sorry, go first, because you
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  Speaker 3: had a question, Baby, go ahead?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I actually I liked the premiere for all the reasons
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  Speaker 9: that you didn't like it, and for the perfect example,
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  Speaker 9: right when you meet somebody who's amazing and they over
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  Speaker 9: promised and don't deliver, it goes from here and it plummets,
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  Speaker 9: which is what last season did. Last season, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 9: gave us so many promises that were not kept. They
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  Speaker 9: front loaded all the episodes where the first half of
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  Speaker 9: the season was so TICKI Tiki boom, and then it
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  Speaker 9: kind of filtered off, and it was by the time
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  Speaker 9: they just showed up, nobody gave a damn right, and
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  Speaker 9: so I felt like last season did so much in
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  Speaker 9: the pilot, the rest of the season struggled to keep
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  Speaker 9: that momentum, which is why I was happy that what
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  Speaker 9: they did this season, in my opinion, was gave us
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  Speaker 9: a key code of all the characters they sipped on it.
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  Speaker 9: I think the pacing is different intentionally because last year
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  Speaker 9: was such a disappointment, were rather than us doing tiki
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: tiki boom immediately, they wanted you to see all the
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: people in the end, their couples, see their relationships and
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: how they're intermingle, because I suspect that ky, Michelle and
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: Pinky might take over this season later, and so it
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: almost felt like a democratic way of let me let
• 17:44
  Speaker 9: you know who all the players are and how they intermingle.
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: So when this shit takes off an episode three or
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: four and we're seeing Drew and Kye, Michelle and Pinky
• 17:50
  Speaker 9: and whoever else go tiki Tiki boom and that takes
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: over the rest of the season, you at least know
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: who all the players are. I prefer this pacing. I
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: actually like to meet a man looking homeless, like it
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: when men meet me looking crazy and homeless, and then
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: I show up like this, like hey, what's up darling?
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: Right, because you don't see it coming.
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: And so I think the audience realizing what a big
• 18:09
  Speaker 9: deal Pinky is later to me feels more sexy intili lady.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: But the thing is this, Okay, So I'm going to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: disagree with you only because and I hear it just
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: saying and I and I and I love the fact
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that we're able to talk about the nuance of it.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: As a producer, It's one of those things where you
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: never want to assume your audience is coming back for
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: episode two, right, And that's why for me and and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I listen and I would love to hear from doesn't
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: quality too? When I say to you, I was obsessed
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: with last season premiere because I thought for a soft
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: reboot where the only ones we knew was Portion and Kenya,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and we met We met four new girls, right, Britt, Kelly,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Shemiah and Angela.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Angela.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, I felt that that one episod so made me
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: aware of everybody. But I will say this, the smart
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: thing they did last season was slowly give us Angela.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So that's why I hear what you're saying for sure.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah again, I'm saying this. The episode was solid. I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: would have preferred that Kam and Sham Pinky being new
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: let me know who they are, versus meeting them at
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a party giving commentary on everyone else's situation mention Angela.
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: I think because I fell in love with Angela, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: feel like we're gonna fall in love with or watch
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: things blossom in a way that might make I want
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: the pilot to not be the best episode of any
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: sort that I watch. I don't like shows with the
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: pilot is the best thing, and that last year the
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: pilot was the best episode in my opinion. You know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: let me tell you, there was a point where they
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: almost lost me forever by the time, by the time
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: Kenya left and all that other stuff happened, I was like,
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: they almost lost me in the middle of the season.
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: I almost feel like this year's going to be a grower,
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: not a shower, and I like a grower, not a show.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Well, I think that it's better to lose them halfway
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: than to start off with a dud. And I feel like, okay.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: In radio, right, they say get to the point fast
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: and hook them so at least have them back for
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: the next episode. So I hear what y'all both saying,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: and it's definitely valid points of course, which is both saying.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: But like I'm seeing some people in common saying no,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: I already feel like I'm checked out now. I did
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: notice with this episode. I was like last season, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: was locked in. I didn't get it from my couch
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: the entire time watching it. This time when it was playing,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: I got out, went to the front when got me
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: some dark chocolate in the in the pantry, I opened
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: the door, he'd be in the pantry, not yet, but
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: hopefully soon will bring them back.
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry, I believe in came Michelle too much, like
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: I believe she will bring you back into the room.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I know there was a missed opportunity. Here'll so much
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: on like what she.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: May have made out Like I feel like, okay, they
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: missed major opportunities Ky Michelle and Pinky being sorority sisters right,
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: like make a big gill out of it, Like I
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: feel like they could have made it more exciting, like
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: I watch it like, oh, that's it. Oh all we
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: saw was a party, really like, we didn't really see
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: anything except a long ass party.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: That was First of all, their new cast members, Kayma
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: Sheell and Pinky called are new to the show. They
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: have to be established and give us a starting point
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: for us to follow the story. And the missed opportunity
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: here was that they both have dynamic personal stories.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I'm with Carlos one hundred percent on this one.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: Kay Michelle should have had an entrance scene that we remember,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: remember how Garsell got that on Beverly Hills, or she
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: walked in in that black and white shit.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: We should have had an entrance scene for kay Michelle.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: Pinky Cole literally has a business empire. We should have
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: been in her stores, and we should have seen both
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: of them at home.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: We should have been introduced to both of their husbands
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: in the kitchen. We should have had a kitchen scene.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: We should have established them because now we got to
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: play ketch up and hitch our wagon to the hope
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: that there's interest. Because people are previously aware of other
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: shit that they've done, especially in k Michelle's case, because
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: she is using this as a reset. She talked in
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: the first episode about wanting to be seen differently than
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: she's been seen previously on TV, and we missed an
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: opportunity to firmly establish that by showing her in a
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: miscellaneous studio behind green walls.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: So I'm actually with Carlos on this.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: One hundred percent came and Shechelle deserved better, and to
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: be quite honest, Pinky col did too. Those packages should
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: have been stronger.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: And don't assume that everyone not you guys, but they
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: don't assume that everyone knows who came and showing Pinky
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: col are there's white women who've never heard of cam
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: and Sell and Pinky Cole. You know they haven't seen them.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: And so like, I remember back when, Carlos, when you
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: were in a producer the packages to intro a new person,
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: like you're showing photo shoots things that they did at work.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: I remember my package. I was like, damn, maybe look
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: bigger than I would like. That's what you do, Like
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: you have to like introduce some it's some kind of
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: a razzle dazzle, and I just feel like.
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: Is always a razzle dazzle, and she said that she's
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: to know who she is. You know, I know she
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: she is, but I'm saying she made a point of
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: saying repeatedly that she is tired of being seen as
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: this one thing, And a part of me wonders if
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: that's informing the reason why we didn't get what we
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: were expect those of us who do know ky Michelle
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: the that we're expecting. I'm gonna be honest, I'm a
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: funny girl. Sometimes I'm tired of the yuck yuck. Sometimes
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: I don't want because I feel like I'm being turned.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: Into a clown.
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: Right when you're always known in a certain way, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: this is an opportunity for you to be in Atlanta,
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: the place where you're being known that way has broken
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: your heart repeatedly, you might actually want to get a
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: chance to do a reset. I might not actually want
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: those white ladies to see me the way that you
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: guys are expecting. I might actually want them to see
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: me like a regular human being interacting and then see
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: my story envelope.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: And so ky Michelle's.
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: Reputation preceding her might actually be why she wanted something
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: that was a softer land to start off with.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Well get that. But there wasn't even a package. There
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: wasn't even like it was like just a sackage. He
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: showed up at a party. Oh who's cam Mischelle. Now
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: they got to go Google and now they are going
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: to go see the stuff that she didn't want them
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: to see, as opposed to introducing her, launching her with
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: the better intro businesswoman, singer, newly married, newly weed. They
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: don't have to even mention the love and hip hop stuff.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: They could show her in the studio. They could show
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: her getting an award. They could have shown her she's done.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cay Michelle has done so much outside of love
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and hip hop.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That and and that's the reason why I listen. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: just wanted because again and and and what I will
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: say is because we know what people were saying before
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: we saw the episode. I personally, and maybe it's personal,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it ain't. I was because I'm like, no, it's just
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: me being a viewer. I wanted to see this country
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: singer blow the socks off of a new audience who
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: has never heard of her.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I never assume people heard of me.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I don't walk into rooms thinking everyone knows me, So
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I never I never come in with trying to be
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: eating more but myself.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: But that's why I shake hands.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I introduce myself because I want to meet I want
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: people to meet me for the first time as who
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I am, and again I thought of a solid My
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: only notes were I wanted more personal story and listen.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keeping a buck with this one. And lets
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: let's get into it. Let's get to the episode. First
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of all, Porscha's situation with Simon.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I will agree with you guys one thousand percent that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Simon goes was the best part of the episode.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: It was genius to see him walk near her.
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: Simon got a package, his ghoals got a package.
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: With that being said, if you're gonna give me that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: which I love and I want more of that fell
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: off the season.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Let me understand where Porsche is right now in that situation.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, the producing wasn't good. I'm sorry. They need you
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: back then. Producing it was not like it wasn't good.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: The producing of it wasn't good. The girls are great,
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: but the producing was lackluster. I'm sorry.
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: She was the start to me to me in this
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: for some reason, for some reason, it felt like Porscha's
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: episode rather than the New girls.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: That damn dress. She looked good as the amazing but.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: See that, and that's why for me, I would never
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: have given Porsche's party the entire episode.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Because Porsche has been on for twelve seasons. She missed too.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: The audience knows her. Porscha is the face of the guys.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: We gotta keep it a buck. Porsche is the face
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: of a land of housewife today. Today she is yeah right,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: we can give her that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: We know who she is, and we live and we
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: standing with all those things.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: We have two new housewives, give give give them some
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: airtime that they deserve.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And and then with Porsche, Porsche is your star. All
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: we knew last season.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Was the the the the gravity of what this woman
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: went through with Simon, and I would have loved for
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: her to say in verarite and verite for the for
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the audience. Man, I know that that means in scene.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I would love what Porsche is saying scene, whether it's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: with Dennis, whether it's with.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Her mom or whomever.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Like I survived hell last year and guess what I'm
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: gonaday women, men, anybody like I'm ready to day, so
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that so that in port listen, I'm gonna say it
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and and whatever, so that when we do see this
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: man who has been a reality television and acting and
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. If Porscha would have said, in a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: scene with her mom and and her mama, Diana and Lauren,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I went through hell last year, a bitch of single child,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: may day women, a man I'm dating whoever I want
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to so that when we see when we see the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: mystery of her day walking to the doors, as a viewer.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Out of the like, man is it a woman?
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Is a man?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: A woman?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And then when he walked in, I would have said, okay,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: for bitch, we would not understand this ain't this ain't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for a long time.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: It's for this time.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: There was no setup, and again it just missed it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: It missed.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: It made everything feel miscellaneous, even though the show felt
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: complete with the cast, everything was kind of just thrown
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: at us in this episode. Now that we're actually breaking
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: it down, they should have introduced Pinky an episode two,
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: given everybody an episode one formal package and seeing everybody
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: at the crib type shit. We could have still had
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: an all cast, but we could have just had Pinky
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: show up and maybe not be Mike per Se or
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: give any confessionals, would just be at the dinner then
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: introduce her formerly in the next episode.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: But we ain't producing this show.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: I have an epiphany from what Dustin just said and
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: what Carlos just said. I feel like the reason why
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: I'm okay with the pilot episode of this season is
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: because it feels like the end of last.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: Season that we didn't get.
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: There was something about how last season fizzled out at
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: the end with a random person making an accusation from
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: that was legend fa it ended so bad. This actually
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: feels like the ending that last season needed, and for me,
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: it's almost like next episode it's going to be when
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: we get all the stuff. And so that's why it
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: felt complete to me, because it felt like it was
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: tying up a bunch of weird loose even the Shamia
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: and Porscha friendship, like it felt like all the loose
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: ends from last year that kind of were left like strangled,
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: got tied up neatly in a way that could have
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: been boring to Claudia's point, but they're tied up. We
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: know who the new players are, and then next episode
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: it takes off. That's what I'm hoping is that happening.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: To me, it seems like such an easy It should
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: have been an easy episode to produce, like what Carlo said,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: also have a quick scene with Porscha, Lauren and a
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: mom where she's like, I'm thinking about having other girls
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: over to the house and have a mix there a
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: couple of seconds and they could be like, wait what
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: you just like this?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: You just got out of this marriage.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: They could have built it up a little bit where
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: it's like a whole thing, like a struggle, like make
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: that be a thing. And then they kept commenting on
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: how dope our house was. They didn't even show it
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: all yes, like like we know the house is off
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: the chain and super show it like they're like, oh,
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: what a beautiful home. We saw one room. Show that shit,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: like build it up and make it larger than life,
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Like I think that's like an easy thing they could
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: have done. And then the anxiety of we don't know
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: where Porscha and Shamia left off, like said that you
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: know to me is like saying how their conversation was
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: so hostile on the phone, Like I would have built
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: that more of like I don't really know if I
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: want to go and fuck with it like that, like
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: they should have built that up, like build something up.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Should have been way more dramatic, way more dramatic.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: We better produs. I'm sorry, y'all need to hire us producers.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: No, but the thing is that the thing is this,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And I will say this when you're doing a first episode,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: well all episodes, but as a producer, I will say this,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: there are so many cooks in the kitchen of my
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: first episode. I can't tell y'all how many times an
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: episode for the premiere is one way, we submit it
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and it changes and it goes back and forth.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: So listen, I think at the end of the day
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it was solid. It was for I'll speak for myself.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: For me, it was strong enough that I'm coming back.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask y'all this though, What did
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: y'all think of Shmiah and Kelly's capital b FF friendship.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I want to start with Dustin feel forced you know
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: I think they actually well we see them together off
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: camera all the time, so they definitely fuck with each other.
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: But the constant and mentioning and making note of the
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: fact that they hold this place in each other's life
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: felt a bit forced and fake a little bit, you
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. It felt like an alliance, That's
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: what it felt like. But they actually do, we know
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: based on social media and shit like that, that they
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: actually do. They are friends in real life. They actually
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: hang out, travel all the time together, so it's not fake.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: But it felt that way. And what the hell was
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: up with that basket that Shemia put together for Kelly's daughter?
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: The way I would have cussed her ass out in
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: that room, I would have give a damn whose house
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: we was in giving my college age daughter.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: A basket with goddamn rubbers and champagne and shit in it?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: What the fuck kind of shit did you all?
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: I hate it?
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I absolutely I would.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: To cushed Smia the fuck out, would love but cussed
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: her ass out, you know what I'm saying, and threw
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: the basket across the damn room.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: They bought it over a trauma.
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: I think the trauma bonded because I feel like, if
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: you think about it, Shamiah and.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Uh, what's the little one's name for hell?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So cute?
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: She's so cute, Like.
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: Little Kelly and Shamier are the first wife's club. They
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: are the discarded with by friends of two women from
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: previous seasons, because last year was Kelly and Britt who
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: were bff's, and it was.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: Shamia and Portie.
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: So it feels like they both got rejected or betrayed
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: and then clung to each other in a storm and
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: their friendship. I don't really need to see too much
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: more of it, respectfully, like it was. It's cute, but
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: it doesn't feel like something I'm invested in.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: I do think that Shamia's response to.
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: Uh Drew, that's the moment when I was like, oh, am,
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: I gonna still like you this season, because it felt
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: like everybody was behaving to Claude Won about being born.
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: Everybody was behaving at the dinner table, even Kate Michelle
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: was behaving, even though her and Charles Oakley were acting
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: like Peter Anini from back in the day. I saw
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: a couple of memes about how the way that kame
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: Michelle key Key's with Charles. They're both with the shits.
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: I hope that for I care more about Kate, Michelle
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: and Charles's friendship than Shamia and Kelly, respectfully, right, But
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: it felt a little bit odd and Shamia's weird is
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: towards Drew. Smia sometimes asks for the camera, and I
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: enjoyed it last year because that first episode was so
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: we all fell in love with Shemid in the first
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: episode last season, right, I'm more of the thing that
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: Andy warned Stacy about is actually what might actually happen
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: to Shemia instead, when Andy was like, when you're the fave,
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: don't let it go to your head and be on
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: some weirdness. I just hope that she doesn't make being
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: shady towards Porsiche like her entire existence and start doing
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: things that makes me rep portion instead of her.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: So Shemia, I'm on the fence about her. She was
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: my favorite last season. I'm not sure she'd be my
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: favorite this season.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I know Drew gets a bad rap.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: I'm actually more excited about seeing how Drew goes toe
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: to toe with k Michelle because k Michelle is formidable,
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: but so is Drew. People always count Drew out and
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: she always makes it. I want to see how she
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: survived the Kay Michelle store.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: Why having a fight all the time though it's other shit.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: That's why I was so just wanted to learn that
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: Ky Michelle and Drew had a conflict later on in
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: the season because I would have rather seen that ener
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: directed elsewhere. But things happen the way they happened. Drew
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: and Shamia both was throwing shots at that entire dinner.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: I can't even remember who started it first. I was
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: watching to also see the origin story of the Kymachelle
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: versus Drew beef, and even though they were both throwing
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: shots in their confessionals when in ca Michelle's first scene
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: when she was with Porsche, she did make a face
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: when Drew's name was brought up.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know what happened prior to that. I don't know.
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know what order they shot it in
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: or none of that shit. So I don't know if
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: that was motivated by something that happened earlier. But that
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: was the first thing that I saw that indicated a
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: problem between the two of them, So I don't know.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: I just with to me, it's a lazy it's a
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: lazy play to beef with Drew on this show.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: And sometimes the one sided beef starts off because you
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: have little conversations with other people that are on the
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: show and you kind of be like, you know, we
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: can just you know, those you give them ammunition to
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: like kind of go at someone because I'm like, what
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: was the relationship between like, you know, and came Michelle
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: to have that and it seemed cordial at the dinner.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: I hope Samia uses this opportunity as a redemption because
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: we loved her in the beginning of last season, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: towards the end everybody was like really mad at her
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: and they were disappointed. And then she gave that you
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: know that that infomercial she did or that YouTube video
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: she did where we were like, oh, and I doing
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: it me, honey, and trust me. I'd like to me,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: I want her to win. So it's like, oh, you didn't.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: I was like, no, don't do that. No, No, that's
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: that's a no. No.
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: That's the bus though, that's the b the three girls
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: who singing. I think that's that was an interesting statement
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: from Charles Oakley.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: I just don't want them to like to make the
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: same mistakes as last season, like, you know, get out
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: of that, get out of that, you know, and you know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: when you're at dinner with people and then someone just
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: goes from zero to one hundred real quick, You're like whoa,
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: wait a minute, What did I miss here? Like he's
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: messed up the whole vibe of the dinner. That's what
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: I thought about the hot shamir thing with Drew.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: I get there too, but I would have checked Drew too.
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: I ain't even gonna hold you if you call asked
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: me what my husband is at?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Why he not here?
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: That was an open invitation to get in checked because
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: it's a very pointed question, you know what I'm saying, right,
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: I guess I look at.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: It a little bit differently because I'm like, I know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: sometimes the producers be behind the other person's head with
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: the phone saying it, and that happens. So I don't
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: really charge them with that big of a charge when
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: I know that about explain that? What do you mean?
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: So teach me?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: Okay, So Love and Hip Hop Season. The second half
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: of the season's coming out on the eighth. Okay, so
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: on this second half, I'm really turning up. And there's
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: some things where you're just in a senior in the
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: moment and you're just doing your thing, You're having your
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: real moment. But then if the producer's like, Okay, we
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: need this to go a little bit up. Sorry, I'm
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: giving y'all some of this information. Carlos doesn't do this, though.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: The producers will type in bold letters and say, make
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: sure you ask where her husband is, and they'll hold
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: the phone up so it'll be behind that you're you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: the person you're talking to that they give you eat.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: So maybe Drew doesn't even want to be messy, but
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: her producer, her producers, like, I.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Know, first of all, clau is not lying. That does happen.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that was I don't I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: that particular example, I don't think that happened to Drew.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: I just did her job when she's supposed to, like, see,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: she's staring it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Up there you go.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I think, listen, she's supposed.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: To say that she's married. Wasn't there last season? She's
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: supposed to ask.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like she's supposed to get checked for that too.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: And SMI I got it?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, reactive, I do.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I do want to.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: I want to.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I want to comment on and Kelly's virgining friendship.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Look what I can say is in real life, like
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Dustin said, they are best friends. I I also understand
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and and the reason why I know this is because
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: obviously it's Atlanta.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I know the girls, so I do know they have
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: a real friendship.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Now, if I remove me being Carlos King, who knows
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: these girls, I understand why the audience they're not believe
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: in it, And I think the honesty is the fact that, look,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: it's because for women over forty to have a best
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: friend you met a year ago and y'all are that tight.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I understand why that does seem to be unbelievable.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And I also understand why, like Blue said, people look
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: at that as they're trauma bonding over their disdain for Portia.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I get all of that. I illogically understand it. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: logically can I get it.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I do want to say though, they do have a
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: real friendship outside of the show.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: But I do think it was the Capital b FF.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I think rubbed a lot of viewers the wrong way
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: because it was sort of like a dish to Porsche, and.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: That that's something that they're going to have to explain eventually.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: That was a production choice. That was a production choice.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: They did like that that could have been rolled out differently,
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: so you won't hate it so much. So you said it,
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: but she said it right, but I'm saying, like we Okay,
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: if you just got to watching Housewives yesterday and you
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: don't follow social media and all that kind of stuff,
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: you wouldn't know that they actually are really good friends.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: You think this is mad, fake, this is annoying as hell,
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: and she's saying it just to get onto Porscha's skin
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: when really they are putting in the time in real life.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, Let's be real.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I think two things can be true, and I'm not
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: mad at this.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they are best friends and also think
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: saying the capitol bff was also dig of course, Yeah,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I think both can be true.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: I'm the Shemiah in this where I had a best
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: friend for years, we are no longer best friends, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: now me and Bridget are like this like it's rare
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: that I'm doing the show and Bridges not in the
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: back room.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: I still don't go around calling her my BFF because
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: I know there's thirty years of somebody knowing somebody else
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: is my BFF and they might feel like a dig.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: And that's in real life.
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: That's what no cameras I recognize that that word blue
• 41:21
  Speaker 9: and somebody else was attached to that word, and so
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: I don't call her that because it would feel funny
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: and it would feel like I was taking a dig
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: at him. So if I know that in real life
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: and you have a whole camera crew in front of you,
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry. I think it's both things. I think they're
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: actually BFFs, but I think the choice was also a dig.
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: And I'm saying that somebody in this situation.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: That's why I call it it. I call like four
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: people my five people, my best friends. So then if
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: you see me with the other one and you don't
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: think I'm being a fake bite, I've been saying it's
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: at least four or five people.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: And also think then when we learn, based on Shamia
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: miming that Porsa had a nasty exchange after the reunion,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: because Shamiah said, although she was obviously their president after reunion,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: she watched it and she heard things.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Porscha said that she didn't clock in the moment, and
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: she said.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: That her and Porsche had a very nasty exchange towards
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: each other, Which is why I understand once again why
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: people really just don't believe this friendship is based on
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: we just happened to be. You know, we have a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: lot of comment versus I don't have my best friend
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: of thirty years anymore. And it ain't Angela Oakley, it
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: ain't Drew, it ain't Faedra, Cynthia's cool, brit gone, Kenny's gone, Hey,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you want to be my best friend?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: So I understand why people will say that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: Well, I think that if Shamiah had walked in Porscha's
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: house with a stank ass attitude and sat down at
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: the table, and while they were talking at the table,
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: ben when somebody asked or what was wrong, been like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: I just want to know why I'm here, Porsche, you
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: know what the fuck we just texted about, then we
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: would have had a.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Show on our hands, you know what I'm saying.
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: So the following, the energy thing that Shamia is doing
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: is what she needs to stop doing. You spend a
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: whole season explaining your behavior, why you move one step
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: behind Porsche to protect your friendship or whatever, and look
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: where that got you. Shamillah walked in that dinner looking
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: her body looked incredible.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Shemia as far, she looked good as fuck. She came
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: in at dinner.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: She should have she should have had an attitude and
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: sat down at that table and demanded some answers from Porsche.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: That excuse of what's between me and Shamia is between us,
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: and I'm not gonna answer you.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Kelly.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: That should not have flown. And I don't know why
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: anybody on that couch let that fly. That is something
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: that should have been interrupted, to say the least. So
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: I think that's where we missed the mark, you know.
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: And maybe Shamiah can only be herself, so her reaction
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: was what she naturally felt inclined to do. I just
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: wish she would have woke that dinner up with the
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: real situation.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I never thought about that.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I actually you're right, it would have been nice for
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: because the thing is this, I do, in the words
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: of Claudia Jordan, Hey producers, if I if I if
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I can kind of see what the producers were doing,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm not mad at it. I do think they
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: all have to say, because I deal with this on
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Bell Collective and Huntsville, where the cast is so disjointed
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that you don't want to start this season off in
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a bad place because you want everybody to go to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: this all cast.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: But to your point, though, but to your point.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I do understand your point. In the sense of Shemiah
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: could have said, I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna go,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: but I gotta talk to her. I would have showed
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: it up and be like this would have been me, Hey, hey,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I'm outside, pornscha y'all, can you can pin you meet
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: me at the door?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Horse me up the door. Hey, so before I go
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: into your house, that's her sanctuary.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, in the same vein loss as when Boles.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: Was introduced on Beverly Hills and dar Reed had a
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: stank ass attitude in that big circular hat and she
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: went she she let Kyle ass have it at that
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: party and it established their few for the season.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: That's all we needed from Shemia, Shmi. I gotta get
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: some respect.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: The viewers are having trouble respecting her in her conflict
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: with Porsche because she's being a doormat and we're tired
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: of seeing that. Shemiah stand up for yourself, baby, That's
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: why the BFF I think.
• 45:46
  Speaker 9: I think you're just showing her character right, because your
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: character is what makes us believe you or not. If
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: you're the kind of person who's gonna talk big ship.
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: But act in a way that we might see as
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: cowardly when you're in the lady's face, and I'm going
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: to be honest, is it possible that they did bond
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: over Smia and Porscha not being cool and became real BFFs. Yes,
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: like we're putting the chicken before the egg. I know
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: people who bond over having a shared enemy, and so
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: in my mind, I don't think the audience got it
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: wrong just because they hang out in real life. Because
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: Sharia's character is a little cowardly, and that's why she's
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: starting to lose me in the same way that Stacy
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: got us on her team because she was not a coward.
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: I think when it comes to reality TV, cowards don't
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: fare well with the audience. If you talk big shit
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: in the confessional Angel, but then face to face it's
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: all kissy, kissy, kissy with your mohawk. But then suddenly
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: you want to be barking at Drew. That ebbing and
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: flowing feels like it feels weird, It feels disjointed. And
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: I will say this too, I pray to God that
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: Shamia and Porsche actually have a real conversation in front
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: of us, because can we be honest. Sometimes people are
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: scared of their friends. I think I think people are
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: scared of Porscha the same way. Some of the girls
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: are skintish Zelle and the whole episode felt like a
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: Kiss the Ring pilot to me.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: And it's uncomfortable to fight in front of the world,
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: in front of someone that you are running up behind,
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: and you were good friends with, and of course even
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: with people that you really like. You not fucking right now,
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: but you did love for a long time. Like I
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: have someone that I fell out with recently, and some
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: days I have my days when I'm like, damn, I
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: missed that person, which you didn't mess up on me,
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: but I missed that person, but you were disloyal. It's
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: not like a cut and dry, black and white thing.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: But I nobody likes and if I can, we can
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: give Shemiah any advice, just like to Angel if she
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: ever comes back. Nobody likes a confessional gangster when you
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: were in the gang. When you're in the confessionals and
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: you talk in big ship, but then when you see
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: the person every time we get the first time, maybe
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: like a little bit like let me fill it out.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be the one to instigate it,
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: because honestly, Smida was kind of damned that she do
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Damned she don't. She came in, Oh, she came in
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: too hot. She's doing too much, because that's why.
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: She was minding Claudia. That's a gangster.
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: How you mind me?
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: But then you want to kiss the ring? Okay, so
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: if you come in too hot, we're gonna say she
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: was coming too hot, and she can oh, she ain't
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: doing enough.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: And they still said she came in too hot because
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: of how she was engaging.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: We drew.
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: So it's just you're right, You're one hundred percent right.
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: She's damned if she do it, damned if she.
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: Don't son to the entire time.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: So I could clap for you.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: We have no trade to just hope that she could
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: be like, okay, second or third episode, come wake it up,
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: like maybe okay, I don't want to come in hot
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: in your house. But we need to have a lunch
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: and let's talk because we are gonna be in the
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: same group together. You did say fuck you in the
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: group chats in the chat to me, but let's address
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: that because now we can set the tone of how
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: the rest of the seasons in to go like, I'm
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: on what you want? What are we doing? Yeah?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: No, all of y'all made very strong points, and I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: do think, wait a minute, what's your note?
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: What's coming.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: You hear?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I will say two things.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Shamia from what I'm hearing, Shamia is going to do
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: everything y'all said. Okay, I heard that Shamia is the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: villain this season and Phaedra and Angela Oakley, which was
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: so weird that they did a dual press tour, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's all. They did a dual press tour.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: It was just those two together on a couch and
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: they both said something in regards to Shamia being the
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: one that's that kicks off the drama.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So I do think.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I do think.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Look, I think Shamia is doing is going to do
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: what you guys are saying, which.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Is leave this Pollyanna act and saying fuck it, let's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: let's let's let's go, let's go.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: And I do think there's a lot of kissing the
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: ring going on for sure.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I definitely can see that because listen, even at the party,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about Kelly and her Man Trey.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: So if you are if anybody knows social media or
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Claudia, I wonder if you even know this.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Trey a realtor. That's his Instagram name.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: He's an extremely popular realtor slash influencer. He used to
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: have a YouTube series where he would be in the
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: backseat of his Maybawk interviewing other CEOs in business. Kelly
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: walks in with him, and I know exactly who he is.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where do y'all think it's.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: This trend of.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Getting these men for the scene, and that's it? Like,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: is that becoming a trend that are seeing on reality television?
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: And obviously we can we can get into Portia herb Man, Mike, No,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: this is nothing new.
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: We all saw Walter and Kenya back in the day
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: and whether they were whether they were dating for real
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: or not. And even if they did date, right, he
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: was still a blip in her timeline of niggas you
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, So like it really was inconsequential. Listen,
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: if we're just filming a scene where people are coming
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: to a dinner party and they asking you to bring
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: it a date, you can bring a random The problem
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: comes in when you frame it as we're actually dating,
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: and here's our history, here's a timeline, and all this
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: other shit that doesn't add up, and now there's holes
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: in the story and it seems like you are lying
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: and trying to pass this off as something more legitimate
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: or serious than it is. Do like Marlow did when
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: Nini had that party. What was the party with the
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: theme that didn't make no sense?
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Bourbon and.
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: Titties and bourbon or something. It was the episode when
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: Yovana she hear you, when she did all that. Marlow
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: had some random man with her, A bunch of them
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: had dates and shit, and it just was what it was.
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: Stop framing it like it's more than what it is
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: and then it won't matter. And if your storyline is
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: that you're dating anyway, then these can be just people.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: That you were dating and it can make sense. Just
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: don't lie about it.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, you know, I'll be knowing the tea.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: Kelly could have really woken it up, and she might
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: be able to still because there's a guy that I
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: know that both Portia and Kelly know.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: What you mean, they both dated him allegedly.
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, how they know them?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: You think that's why they don't like each other on
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: the show because they both.
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: You heard it first here on Monday. I know that
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: there's a friend and I and I'm friends with I
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: don't want to put this person on blast, but if
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: you really wanted to wake it up, but you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: it's really hard to bring who you really f with
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: on the show if you don't want to get ruined
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: if you really care about that person, right, and either
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: one of them, like, if that's really your person that
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: you love or you care about, you may not want
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: to bring that person on the show, but you'll bring
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: somebody safe, like, oh, it's a guy that I dated
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: last year, or we fucked around a couple of times.
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: But the person you really really love, if you really
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: want that to be a thing. Of course, I totally
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: get why you wouldn't, because that's who you care about
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: in your real life. At the end of the day,
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: there's work and what I'm willing to give to the
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: world on TV, and then there's my heart for real,
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: who I don't want to necessarily have y'all mess it
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: up and discuss and break down. And I understand that.
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: And I'm not falsing either one of them if they
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: don't want to. I know this person was more special
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: to one of them more than the other. But if
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: you really went.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Away without Claudia, that's.
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: What I don't think. So, I don't think so. But
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: I do know that there is a person that they
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's Atlanta. It's a very small place. There's
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: a lot of people that have people in common. But
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: like if you, I do get and I know anytime
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: I say her name, y'all think it's he. It's I'm
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: just giving actually objective advice. Like I get why one
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: wouldn't want to bring people into the show if you
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: really have a feeling for them or they have had
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: your back for years, Oh what have you? You know
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So, Carlos, do you you want to
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: help Claudia out?
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: No, No, I'm because we got agree.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: You know, I will say this. I'm very proud of Claudia.
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: Thank you. See, I'm being very and I to the
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: person I said, anytime Partial's name comes up, Claudia's hating,
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: I think I've been very fair and kind of her.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: I'm complimenting her. I'm giving her. I'm saying I get her,
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: and I need you to stop thinking that if I
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: mentioned this person's thea miss hate this. I have no
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: hatred for anyone on the show. The most when I
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: dislike the most is fatal because I think she's annoying
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: and fake and a liar, and I really have an
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: issue with liars. But I even I don't hate her.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: I don't hate any of the girls.
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: Claudia did she talking about, Yeah, I don't want to
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: make friends with nobody trying to frame me?
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: Girl, I mean the sex.
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: Don't you got some audacity?
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: But let me stop. When she said that, I was.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Like, that's literally what you did to Candy committed.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: And then the previews of next week with Porsche asking, oh, girls,
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: she's slept with a married man. I said, I know
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: this ain't happening. I know this ain't happened on Eastern
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: I know it's not I know it's not well when,
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: but yeah, what.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: In the first damn episode? Of course, first episodes.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: You're coming in lying and at least you know. The
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: producers like, look, we're starting this ship off up front.
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: Let y'all know what's up. We don't want to be
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: liable after last season. We're keeping our hands clean. This
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: is a lie and we're gonna expose her for a
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: lie right now, so don't nothing come up later on?
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: And we got to fire somebody else halfway through the
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: damn season.
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: So I was a question about the men, though, can
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: we be honest in panout? This is not just reality TV.
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: We're in a new era of men who are batties,
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: who day powerful women because they're cloud chasers, and so
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: I think this is bigger than reality television or even Atlanta.
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: I think that that is a wave of women dating
• 56:00
  Speaker 9: men who are hoping that if you're attached to a
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: platform that they'll get to sit on the on the
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: face sign for three hours and have a subplot like
• 56:07
  Speaker 9: that random man that Drew had on her phone.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: Like, I think there are men who no, he's not random,
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: he's not random. He's not random.
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: I know blacks been mentioned before, but I'm saying that
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: there are some men who part of the appeal is
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: that you're on the show and they want to date
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: women who have clout in the way that we used.
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: To attract it, we say women were cloud chasers.
• 56:24
  Speaker 9: I think men straight men have become the new cloud
• 56:27
  Speaker 9: chasers now, and the shows are just highlighting something that's happening.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: But there's a lot of bad bitches now that they
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: want to be. I mean, you heard Porsch's guy on
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: the skit saying how it would help his brand and
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff, and I actually that makes
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: me do that does make me feel bad for the
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: women in a way, because the show puts pressure on you.
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: You got to bring someone this here. You have to
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: have a relationship. You have to or if you want
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: your peach bag, you're gonna have to show up with someone.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Well, my bad, I ain't hear you.
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: Go ahead, go ahead, dsin No, I just like to me, yes,
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: I agree with you that it's mad weird for a
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: dude to do that, But at the same time, like
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: a rich, successful man that was famous or you know, powerful,
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: that was a goal for some women for a time.
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: So maybe now it's guys that have a goal, which
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: it is. Yeah, you're right, you know what I'm saying.
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: Maybe it's the same exact thing. Like I don't know,
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I like to be the person in
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: a powerful seat, So I don't know, but like you
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Maybe that is what I don't know.
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: Maybe that's as women get more and more powerless. I
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: personally love and want for I believe women should be
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: running shit real talk. So as women become more and
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: more powerful and shit, maybe this is a new relationship structure.
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, batory though, because of misogyny,
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: and so women when we did it, we did it
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: because we didn't have enough, and so we had to
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: hit our wagon to men. Perfect example, women couldn't have
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: that own bigger countil Ti, nineteen seventy four. Right, So
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: women wanting a man in order to give her whatever
• 57:57
  Speaker 9: was because society was structurally built against her, and so
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: marrying a good man would equal what society was doing
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: against her. Men don't have that, misogynist don't do that
• 58:05
  Speaker 9: to men. So men are doing Men already have the
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: privilege and are being baddies on top of that. So
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: it seems equable from a distance, but it's actually predatory.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel what you're saying.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying, it's a new incarnation of relationships that
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: we're starting to see more and more.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: It is, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, like.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: You and the women you know in the women's defense,
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: and I will say all of them, there is again
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: immense pressure to show up with someone right, And you know,
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: I saw someone talking about this this what was it
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: called the like pretty guild or women that got it
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: going on, Like if you don't show with a man,
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: the first thing they come to you is you ain't
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: got a man. What's wrong with you? Imagine being on
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: a reality show. Now it's time to one hundred. You
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: got to show up with someone. And then you know,
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: these women are ballers. They're all making great money. Look
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: at for she's in like an eight million dollar house
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: or whatever it was, like that is a huge like
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: she's up there. So a lot of times, if you're
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: gonna wait around for a guy that's doing better than you,
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: you probably be waiting until you die. So you and
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: then a good looking guy that's willing to do some
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: scenes with you and make you like look like you
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: know your desired, she is desired, but like make you
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: look like you're in something for a show. I get it,
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: and these men are loving to sign up for it,
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: and I do agree with you. Destin there is a
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: shift where before things that would be looked down upon,
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: like now I'm a man, I would never do that.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: Now it's like, well why not women have been going
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: and getting with the athletes and the ball of men.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: Why can't I? And yeah, it is a change in society.
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: It's a false equivalency though, but it is a change.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: But a lot of those men Atlanta, I mean they're
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: ran through. A lot of the men Atlanta are ran through.
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: They've been on multiple shows, on multiple different girls dms,
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: like they were like just helping for one of them
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: to like kind of notice some you know, when they
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: get on the show and they are linked to someone
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: on the show, they have to unfollow other women from
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: shows that they were following before, maybe setting zms to
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: read between the lines, you know what I'm saying. So
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: they do that.
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: Maybe it's like being a gamer, like once you go
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: on Survivor and once you go on to Dance with
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: the Stars, you know you're a gamer, so you go
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: through the circuit.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's not a money issue.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: I feel like the whole thing about well, if you're
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 9: looking for a man who makes more than you, you're
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: gonna be waiting for a while. No, I think women
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: are waiting for men with integrity, which is not monetary
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: at all. If you met a man who was not
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: a millionaire, but it was let's say, making decent money
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 9: and he's just rocked with you and wasn't a cloud chaser.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: I think a lot of powerful women would deal with
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: the man who makes less than him if he had integrity.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 9: And I don't think it's the money thing. I think
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 9: it's a lack of masculine integrity that we're used to,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: Like we could take it for granted.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: With Carl.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: We can hear blurry friends, they said, mister false, he says,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: Colos has the Colorado WiFi angel.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Oh no, let me fix it, Let me fix it,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: let me fix it your point blue.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: One of my best relationships with was with kJ and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: again we're not together anymore. Where really good friends. But
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: he didn't make as much money as me, but he
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: had the utmost integrity and he was very masculine, even
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: though he wasn't wealthier than me. But he had all
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: the things, like he had a bigger house, he had
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: the cars, he because he worked hard, and he wasn't
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: like a flashy guy. He could give a shit less
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: about reality TV. But there's a lot of sexy, but
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: we don't really see a lot of that anymore. See
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: that's sexy.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: I think men are using money as an excuse for
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: for the lack of integrity. If you have integrity, sit
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 9: on that rather than your wallet. A woman will want you.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 9: But if you're a guy who's broke and you've got
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 9: no integrity, pick a struggle.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: It can't be both. Atlanta is a lot of that
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: going on, so yikes, And and a lot of batties,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: bad bitches down there. And the bad matches are not women.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: A lot of bad bitches down there. The baddest bitch
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: you knowing Atlanta is not a girl. That's what I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: keep hearing. Go get kJ back.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: Yo.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: First of all, I might even have a boyfriend right now.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: I don't, but I might have. I might have, you know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, like they are so quick, they'll say they're
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: always whenever I mentioned saying.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: They like, go get kJ back because you say positive
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: shit about him, and that's a good thing, you know,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: And that's.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: The one I'm I love that so I can voise
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 9: for her. I really liked him, Claudie. I'm sad that
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 9: you guys are to get I mean my business, but
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 9: I'm I really really liked him.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: I really liked I did we try to have I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: try to have healthy breakups. Unless you screw me over
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: and go get engaged to somebody else right away after
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: you getting married, then it's gonna be a little bit
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: weird to me. But he wasn't like that.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: That's right, your boy. But again, further to blues point,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: you trust him. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: I just totally yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: I would never have on the show, though I would
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: my boyfriend on a reality show.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Ever.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: Oh my god. We did that show and like one
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: scene made everybody think that he didn't think I was sexy.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: We were going through Listen, if you've ever been on
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: someone for some years, you go through ebbs and flows
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: where you're all over each other sexually, and then sometimes
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: we were like, eh, it's feeling like brother sister love.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: The week that we did therapy, it was feeling like
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: that for us. So in therapy he admits that he
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: wasn't like feeling sexually attracted to me. I wasn't either,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: but I didn't say it because I know reality TV.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: He I told him, just blurred the shit out. He
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: said it, and now forever it's like, your man didn't
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: even want to fuck you. I'm like, trust me, that's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: not true.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: I can vouch for Claudia. That man look like he
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: want to take her.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 9: To the room.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, wait did you I'm a button?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: Your titties seem like they're more than when you left.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: That's what they made. The Wi Fi go out was crazy, got.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: Lower when you came back.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, So sorry about that guy.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, So what did y'all think about We touched on
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit last week in terms of FA Angela.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on Angela.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 9: In general this premiere starting with blue Oh snap, okay,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: I'm seam. Angela has been reheating her own nachos since
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: her little thing last season and into this season. I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: don't I don't even need fajer they're any more. To
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: be perfectly honest, I think she's superfluous.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: Look that up.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 9: So that's another angel word. I think Angela is a star.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: I'm team Angela on all fronts at all times, so
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 9: I'm biased. I'm gonna just say it up front.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Mm hm.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: And also, Phaed your ass came in lying like a
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: like a damn rug again, you know what I'm sayings
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: coming in talking about she had it and then even
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 7: her answer, So did you see the tapes. Well, I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: did ask the review, yes, but I haven't seen them
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: no lying all the time once again, and so of
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: course were on Angela's side.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Plus we like Angela better.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: Angela's authenticity is what made her that slow burn that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: blue spoke up earlier that we loved so much because
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: she was just real and that's why we fuck with
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: Angela Oakley. So for me personally, Angela all day and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: she looked gorgeous the whole episode. By the way, that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: scene with her beautiful daughter who looks just like her.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: They look gorgeous out there on that patio doing rich
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: nigga shit.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: I love that personally, you know what I'm saying. I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: love it. Where's Angela from Chicago? Okay?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: Because people from like.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: Detroit, Chicago, that area, y'all got something in the water.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 9: I fuck with y'all heavy. When it's people who are
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 9: from like a ch.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: I know where they're from.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they have.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: Fhadria to me, in my opinion, is so jealous of
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: Angela Oakley's entire life. She has a life that I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: think Faeda wants us to think she has, Like how
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: fags are I'm in the rooms?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: Are you?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: Because we see on Angela's Instagram that she's actually in
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: the rooms and from sports to entertainment, Hall of Fame, inductions,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: political events. I mean, Faja gets some things here and there,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: but it's.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Not the same.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: My friend's a lawyer. Awill was with a lawyer down
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: Atlanta and she said there was some event that Fasia
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: was filming and she got some award for a lawyer
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: for the cameras, and she said everybody was snickering and
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: laughing in there because they don't look at her as
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: a real lawyer. And like I've already told you time
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: and time again, my lawyer represents Bobby Brown now and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: he said every single time he went to court and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: Fasier represented him, he ended up in jail. So I
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: will never give her props as a lawyer because she's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: not a good one. Anyone that Like when you go
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: and you see a place in La like on Peaco
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: Boulevard and its phone number and they say they do
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: dry cleaning and sell donuts, you got to pick one.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: You got to specialize in one. If you're a reality star,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: a twerker, a donkey booty videos, you're a fitness model
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: with Willhelmina, you're a mortician, you're a lawyer, you're this
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: or that. That means you're not great at any of them,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like a jack of all
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: trades is a master at Now you can do several
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: things and diversify your bonds.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: But when you have all those things, like those are
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: all serious things. If you're an attorney, you're really focusing
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: in a practicing law. And then you're a reality star.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: But like having like ten things and being like I
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: have jobs, Yes, you have gigs, because you're not that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: great at any of them. You're not that great at
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: any of them. I think she's extremely jealous of Angela Oakley,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: the way she comes for her, the way she unnecessarily
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: came for her last season, the way she's like, I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: think she's so on Charles's like, she would love that situation.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: She would love that situation a grown man age appropriate.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: She coming in with this guy looking like he's stressed
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: fresh out of high college. It's giving fake, It's it's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know the Phaedra of yesteryear that was a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: good reader and funny and good. I think it's a waste.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: I think it's a waste bringing her back and I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: think it's a waste of money having it there. Honestly,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: I do, all right, Okay, yes, pressed by Claudia Jordan
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: Akac not those of Monday Night Live are Carlos. I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: don't know about Blue and Dust Remember all of that
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: I agree with.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I'll say, Okay.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: The thing is this as we're as we're nearing towards
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: the end of the episode, you know. And I said
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: this in nauseam, and I'll keep saying it. You know,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: there's a new housewife called Rhode Island. Claudia, you haven't
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: watched it. You should watch the same for you. Blue,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I've seen it.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dust it, I know, watch doesn't texting me. It's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: like bro, Rhode Island.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Is a new housewife show, and it made me fall
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: back in love with the genre of reality TV because
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: those ladies are so real that I am. I am
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: shocked and that's and that's and that's sad to say
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: as a vir reality television. I'm shocked at how honest
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: they're being about my man cheated on me. No, I'm
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: not a swinger, but I had a threesome wink wink.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a pretty much pretty much I'm a
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: sugar baby.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: I live in a twenty thousand square foot home.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: My man lives in Miami with his girlfriend six months
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: out the year, and I'm here with a living housekeeper
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: and and and they're arguing about some real shit about nubbitch.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: You sent a photo of my man's mistress to.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Me, and now we got beep because you called my
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: job and give me fire via HR.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: And when I my my I say that to say,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I do.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Feel like some of the girls on the Show of Atlanta.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: They're performing for the camp and there's and and I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: want to be very honest. There is this difference with okay, bitch,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: the red dot is on, let me give a little
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: one two one two, because I know I can't be
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: there like this, so let me let me find my personality.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Look ye, but there's a it's a drastic difference with
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: being so conscious of the cameras to where you're not
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: even being honest about what's really happening in your life.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: And everybody's looking for the joke, everyone's looking for the read.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: And I just want reality stars to get.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Out of that.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 10: And it's and it's unfair to your followers on social
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 10: media who fell in love with you because you were
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 10: real and if you're newly stepping into this genre, I'm
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 10: not even mad at the new girls anymore because they
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 10: feel like, well, I got to watch this one who's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 10: been on the show all this long get away with it,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 10: so I got to step up.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: That's why Pinky's so good, because Pinky didn't do that.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And and I can't wait to see I'll as
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: they show the coming attraction for episode two. Episode two
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: looks very promising. And I think everything we talked about
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: what being episode two, and that's great. But I I
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: do I do miss I do miss seeing somebody's real boyfriend.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I miss I missed somebody.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: Like like I the bars and health, bars and health
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: that's which we're missing missing thing.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they were talking about Kim Zosiak, and y'all
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: said a lot, Hey Kim.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: The fact that at least she said I have a man.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Y'all can't see this motherfucker.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm a man.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: And and but Kim wasn't dating other men for the show.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: She was like, didn't have that going on like on
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Rhode Island, which is your point.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was that girl honey talking about my husband,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: my sister. But I took him. I was like, oh
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: my god, all of that.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: So see to see these ladies with these men that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna see in more episodes.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: It's like, guys, It's what Claudia said, like, guys, we
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: know you're real man.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: You don't want to bring him around. And if that's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: the case, then tell me. I was disappointed that Gerald
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: missed his flight because I'm just like I I feel
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: so bad for Shemiah because I know how bad Shamiah
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: wants this. I will go on records saying I think
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Samiah wants this more than anybody on that show. Combined agreed,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: because she's been around it so long and she finally
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: got it. And I feel bad that it's not the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: dream she's set off for. And I feel bad that, yes,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: you have a supportive a husband with who's doing, who's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: providing with this lifestyle. I feel horrible that this man
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: did not show up for you.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: And let's just say his flight was delayed and that
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: was the case, I would have said, I know how
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: important this is for you. I'm not gonna fly out.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I'll fly out the next day because I know how
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: much this means to you, and I forel bet listen.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I feel horrible for her because at least at least
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: she has a real husband who is there physically, but
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: he's not there for her emotionally.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: On the show.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: That's so hard to like really have a real relationship.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: But he's not willing or can it, doesn't want to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: come on the show and carp because it's like it's
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: such a thing, like a few scenes will go a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: long way with making her look supported, And I think
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: that also kind of transfers over to the women kind
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: of treating her a certain way. Your dude's never there
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: having your back, Like you can play with Angela, but
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: you can't play with it that much because you have
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: to deal with Charles and he has a bad you know,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: you has a back. And this power in that a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: woman walks with a different swagger or a different kind
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: of confidence when it's like it's us, it's a united front.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: It's not just me and y'all piling on upon me
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: and me having to like make an excuse like, oh,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: well he missed his flight. And I do feel bad
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: for and I hope he can just like see the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: importance and how he doesn't have to do a lot,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: and I get that he's a serious person. He doesn't
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: want to get in the bull the bs, but he's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: gonna You know, you're married to a woman that's on
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: a reality to be there.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: It's what you're said, Angela.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: You can say what you want about Charles. And the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: reason why I'm not gonna give Joel grace I'm not.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just not is because Charles Oakley is an NBA legend,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: right and yes, and yes he loves the cameras. Fine,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, Charles ain't getting paid.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: But Charles, I believe Angela behind the scenes said, motherfucker,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: you're gonna show up for me, and I believe he said,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I got your back and he he at least was
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: there for her. Because Claudia is right. When a woman
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: has her man next to her, even if he's mute,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: it's sort of like we're.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: It's yes, yeah, you're dealing with you. You're not dealing
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: with a woman that's just off on her own like
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: and that's what's kind of like sad like it. You know,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: there is a respect that they give you. I mean,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: look at how male centered society is a lot of
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: women are too right, where's your man? Where's your mess?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: The first thing they go for, go for your neck
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: is where's your man? He doesn't even have to say anything,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: just showing up.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: And as far as Rhde Island, I will start watching it,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: I will say, is a lot. There's Rhode Island is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: to have and the have nots. There's super rich, old money.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: There's a there's a street, a boulevard called ten Mile
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: Drive in Newport. Taylor Swift has a house there. There's
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: mansions that we used to go to in Newport that
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: oversee it's on a cliff, oversee the ocean. That's what
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: we have, all palms. They have homes that have gold
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: on the wind, like like how Kings and Queenity to live.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: They're Vanderbilts. There's extreme wealth in Rhode Island. Then there's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: also the hood spots the east side, broad Street on
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: the south side, and those women like even if you're
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: wealthy out there, like you know in other parts of
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: the most other parts of the country. When people have money,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: they may have started off like talking like rough around
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: the edges, but when they get rich, they all of
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: a sudden they all have British accents, but was not
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: like that, like there'll be billionaires, millionaire families, but they're
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: gonna be like what the fuck? You know what I mean,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: They're still gonna be rough around the edges. You're still
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: So that's why it's gonna be so appealing because that's
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: just how the women are cutting Rhode Island. It doesn't
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: matter like the level you're on financially, they're still very
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: very What you see, bitch is what you get. And yes,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: I'm a millionaire, but I will punch in your fucking face.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: Shana Mochler is from Rhode Island and they I think
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: I would have loved to have seen Shana Mochler with
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: all her wealth and richness and was married. Don't let's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: not forget she did punch Paris Hilt in the face
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: at High n Nightclub for messing with her man and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: she had a lot to lose and did not give
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: a fuck. That is the essence of Rhode Island girls.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: It's whatever, it's wherever the show is good. And one
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: last note about Atlanta.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 7: Shout out to Cynthia Bay who opened the motherfucking episode
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 7: up with that fly ass scene.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Clicking first.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was she turned around and we saw them.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: She looked, Okay, we do. I said, yeah, Cynthia, that's great.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: And she doesn't give friend to the show. She gives
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: main character like Mama mother.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Blue.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: I just have a quick question, because as you guys
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: were talking, something just hit me. Everybody here has all
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 9: these big dreams, right. Imagine that you are dreaming of
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 9: something happening, and you get a first season where you're
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: doing really great on whatever show, whether you're on Broadway
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 9: like Dustin or you're doing the a biopic like Claudia
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 9: or Carlos Done had his fifty eleven show, Do well,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 9: and your partner now knows what's at stake and all
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 9: eyes are on you, and they still don't show up
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 9: the second season. I think it's worse now because of
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 9: last season that he's not there.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: Last season could have been a fluke because he didn't
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: know if.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: It was going to take off or not. But to
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 9: see your wife finally get the moment that she's been
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 9: waiting for and been adjacent to for a decade plus
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 9: and to still not show up, it soured me on him, guys.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: It soured me on him. Because that that's a level
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 9: of disappointment that I can't excuse anymore. I can't, I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: can't see it.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: I agree with you. We he knows that the last
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: year and how much they come for you, and like
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: it's like constantly letting her down. It feels, it feels,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: it feels in the market. It's uncomfortable to watch, Like.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: It's like, that's what it is, and it's it's it's
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: unfortunate because she actually has a real husband and.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 11: To see Pinky with her husband, Ky Michelle with her husband,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 11: you know what I mean, angela husband and then and
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 11: then the Shemia walks in and uh child, it's it
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 11: made me sad.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: But rain drops, let us know what you thought about
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: the premiere, Love y'all? Rain drops?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 1:17:52
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