Latest / My Third Place Pod / Episode 126 - GLOW S1E4 - The Dusty Spur
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- 2:01Welcome back to the podcast, fellow Friendsters.
- 2:05Was that still a thing? I don't know.
- 2:08We are back with another brand spanking new episode of
- 2:12Backdrops and Back Lots where we rewatch and recap the Netflix
- 2:16series of GLOW, the gorgeous ladies of wrestling sometimes
- 2:24and all the time. When I mean, I mean all the
- 2:27time. I will bring up something that
- 2:29happened to the actors and actresses on the show other
- 2:32times. I will bring up something that
- 2:34was said on the Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling documentary that
- 2:37aired on Netflix in 2012. From Under the Apron welcomes
- 2:43you all back tonight. I'm recapping episode four of
- 2:48the first season of GLOW titled The Dusty Spur.
- 2:55I really enjoyed this episode. It focused on one of the
- 2:57characters, so I went back to check for interviews.
- 3:00I want the actress thought of the when filming Her scenes.
- 3:06Episode was written by Sasha Rothschild.
- 3:09Rothschild writes comedy, feature films, scripted
- 3:12television such as The Carey Diaries, The Bold Type, Huge in
- 3:17France, GLOW, and The Babysitter's Club.
- 3:21She was also a regular Blogger about relationships for
- 3:23Psychology Today magazine and Huffington Post.
- 3:25Her LA Weekly article on how to get divorced by 30.
- 3:30About Her failed starter marriage spawned A memoir
- 3:33published by Penguin. Rothschild was a Co executive
- 3:37producer and writer for seasons 1-2 and three on the hit Netflix
- 3:41series GLOW. She was nominated for an Emmy
- 3:43Golden Globe Writers Guild Award Producers Guild Award for her
- 3:46work on GLOW. Her debut novel, Blood Sugar,
- 3:55was published by Putnam in 2022. Directed by Melanie Mayron,
- 4:01she's an American actress and director of film and television.
- 4:05Mayron is best known for her role as photographer Moses
- 4:08Deadman on the ABC drama 30 Something, for which she won the
- 4:12Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supported Actress in
- 4:16the Drama Series in 1989 and was nominated for the same award in
- 4:201990 and 1991. In 2018, the Santa Fe Film
- 4:25Festival honored Meirion for her outstanding contributions to
- 4:28film and television. She has directed The
- 4:32Babysitter's Club, a film based upon the book series of the same
- 4:36name. She also directed the television
- 4:38movie Toastless in 1997 starring Christianity and the movie Slap
- 4:44Her. She's French in 2002 starring
- 4:47Piper Perabo, which appeared on television as She Gets What She
- 4:51Wants. In 2006, she appeared as a judge
- 4:54in the reality show Looking for Stars on the Stars channel.
- 5:01Melanie also directed episodes of the show, as well as episodes
- 5:04of In Treatment, The Fosters, Providence, Dawson's Creek, Ed,
- 5:10State of Grace, Nash Bridges, Wasteland, Tell Me You Love Me,
- 5:14and The Naked Brothers Band. In 2015, she directed and
- 5:19released on YouTube The Living Room Sessions and.
- 5:22A collection of videos of up and coming musical artists
- 5:25performing acoustic sax in her living room.
- 5:28Mayron has directed an episode of the Netflix original series
- 5:31GLOW, an episode of Seal Team, an episode of The Enemy Within,
- 5:34and multiple episodes of the 2018 Charmed reboot, as well as
- 5:39Jane the Virgin synopsis of the show, with just five weeks left
- 5:47to crank out a show. Sam and Bash move all the ladies
- 5:50into a motel. Ruth struggles to nail down a
- 5:54memorable character. The show code opens on the Dream
- 5:59Academy's life in another town, playing while Sheila stares into
- 6:04the mirror and starts to apply makeup.
- 6:06Black eyeliners around her eyes, liquid foundation on her teeth.
- 6:11Getting the impression that she doesn't brush them, she puts on
- 6:14her wig and exhales while the GLOW logo comes up.
- 6:19So right away, we're getting a Sheila centric episode.
- 6:21I love it. She's one of my favorite
- 6:24characters on the show. In 2017, Shannon Carlin from
- 6:27bustle.com did an article on GAIL Rankin, the actress who
- 6:32plays Sheila the She Wolf. To prepare for her role in the
- 6:37Netflix series GLOW, GAIL spent some time at a wolf sanctuary a
- 6:41few hours outside Los Angeles. I was looking to find out why I
- 6:46would feel more comfortable being a wolf than I would being
- 6:50a human rank and bustle over the phone.
- 6:54Well, Sheila knows she's not actually a wolf.
- 6:56She prefers to encounter the world as one, which comes in
- 7:00handy as a wrestler. What Rankin discovered was that
- 7:04as a woman, there's also something powerful in Sheila's
- 7:07animal nature which didn't just change the way Rankin acted on
- 7:11screen, but off screen too. Sheila wants to be able to use
- 7:17how she moves and how she interacts with the world in the
- 7:20different form, the actor says. Wrestling is a pretty good
- 7:24outlet for an animal. After spending quality time with
- 7:28a few wolves, Ranking understood why that was.
- 7:31They're extremely soulful and majestic animals, she says.
- 7:35They have kind of a bad reputation, quote UN quote, but
- 7:39they're very strong, very insightful and very wise.
- 7:43Those are the same words Rankin used to describe Sheila, who
- 7:46wasn't afraid to be herself. Even if the rest of the world
- 7:49can deal with authenticity, finding Sheila the Sheila of
- 7:54Truth began with finding her look, which Rankin says was
- 7:57inspired not only by her animal namesake but also pulled from
- 8:02tough 80s idols like Joan Jett. From her feral looking wig to
- 8:07her raccoon eyes, every single thing Sheila wears means
- 8:10something to her. It had to feel really personal
- 8:15reconciles of her look, which she helped put together with
- 8:17costume designer Beth Morgan and the show's creators, Liv Flaheev
- 8:21and Karlie Mensch. Why does she wear, you know,
- 8:25ripped stockings? They're not ripped by accident.
- 8:28They're ripped on purpose. Nothing is by accident for me.
- 8:32It's a look that makes her feel the way she needs to feel to be
- 8:35Sheila. That distinction was important
- 8:40to Rankin because Sheila isn't playing some character.
- 8:43She's being her authentic self, or the version of herself that
- 8:47she's authentically created, is something that audience learns
- 8:50in the opening of Episode 4, the dusty spur where Sheila sits in
- 8:54front of a hotel mirror and goes to her beauty routine.
- 8:58She applies her long dark wig over her short platinum blonde
- 9:01Pixie, heats up her eyeliner to get those dark smudges, and
- 9:05yellows her teeth with liquid foundation.
- 9:10So back to the show. Dash and Sam meet with Debbie,
- 9:14who has her baby Randy with her. She sarcastically compliments
- 9:19them on their matching tans. Sam says that they want that
- 9:24they went to Palm Springs, and Bash comments that mentally they
- 9:28went on a magic carpet ride. Debbie asked if they're busting
- 9:32buddies now, and Bash tries to give her a hand with her
- 9:34stroller. This is the 80s, so he must have
- 9:37been on coke this entire time while he was on that magic
- 9:40carpet ride. He doesn't have much luck with
- 9:43the stroller as he struggles with or even opening it, and
- 9:47Debbie tells him that she's got it.
- 9:49Sam tells her that he's the reason why he didn't ask.
- 9:52He didn't want to offend her. I am, woman, hear me roar right?
- 9:56Both Sam and Bash going to gym, leaving Debbie alone outside by
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- 12:00mamamurderedapodcast@gmail.com. The two meet with the girls of
- 12:06Glow who are sitting on the bleachers, Bash saying that it
- 12:09was exhilarating to be locked up with Sam for 48 hours.
- 12:14Sam says that they were in separate rooms.
- 12:17Bash says that they escaped to a private villa, Villa.
- 12:20Villa did it to the blow and figured everything out.
- 12:25They're moving them into a hotel because they feel that it'll
- 12:27help them in the same way, help them to focus.
- 12:33Sam says they learned a valuable lesson over the weekend.
- 12:36Cloistering yourself up like some centering 17th century monk
- 12:40makes you more fucking productive, and it helps you
- 12:42focus. Vicki asked if it's like an
- 12:46Olympic village. Sam agrees, but as probably more
- 12:49like rehab. Melrose points out that rehab is
- 12:53expensive. Bass tells him it'll all be
- 12:57free. Free housing, free cable, a free
- 13:01commute. Even a free pool.
- 13:04Carmen asks if they can live at home and commute.
- 13:07Cherry notes that some of them have wives and husbands.
- 13:10Sam says there's no exceptions. Debbie raises her hand, and he
- 13:14agrees that she's an exception because she's the star and has a
- 13:18baby. Cherry objects, and Sam says
- 13:22that it's time for reality. That they shoot in five weeks,
- 13:26that most of them don't know how to act and none of them can
- 13:29wrestle. This is their way of making it
- 13:32so that they can don't suck. There's also a curfew and a
- 13:36strict no drug policy. Melrose points out that they did
- 13:41both did blow all weekend and the girls have to live like a
- 13:44bunch of nuns, Bash, Lincoln said to them, living like
- 13:50sorority sisters. Sam tells them that if they want
- 13:54their paychecks for the week, they'll live at the hotel and
- 13:56follow the rules. Ruth asked.
- 13:58Just when this is all happening. And they say that it's at the
- 14:02end of the week. Sam asked them to make all the
- 14:05arrangements they have to do. Call your landlords, Hide your
- 14:08drugs, Flush your fish, the four fish.
- 14:15The idea of the girls moving into the same hotel together is
- 14:17based on the real life girl Glow Girls moving into a hotel a few
- 14:22miles away from the Riviera Hotel and Casino Las Vegas,
- 14:25which would be dubbed in the show The Glow House.
- 14:31It's not an 80s inspired show without an 80s montage of the
- 14:35girls cleaning their room to the Billy Joel moving Out song.
- 14:39I love that song. The group makes their
- 14:41preparations. Finally they all arrive at the
- 14:44Dusty Spur Hotel. Sheila's late to arrive and
- 14:48walks towards every door where the girls are paired up.
- 14:52Britannica and Machu Picchu, the best friends slash sisters at
- 14:56the Laredna, are seen cleansing outside their hotel room.
- 15:01She opens her door and she is paired up with Ruth.
- 15:04She tells her to go back outside and try to come back in again.
- 15:07As she puts on a pair of glasses pretending to call someone on
- 15:10the phone and be a businesswoman, she takes off the
- 15:16glasses, telling Sheila it's her new character idea.
- 15:20Kind of a female Jr. with a touch of Cruella Deville Jr.
- 15:25otherwise known throughout the 80s as John Ross Ewing from the
- 15:29TV show Dallas. He is depicted as a covetous,
- 15:33egocentric, manipulative and moral oil Baron with psychotic
- 15:39psychopathic tendencies who is currently plotting subterfergies
- 15:44to plunder the wealth of his foes.
- 15:47Jesus stress. Ain't that time fuzz?
- 15:51Sheila simply stares and Ruth asked her if it didn't work.
- 15:56She complaints of being the only one who doesn't have a
- 15:59character, noting how they label the door Sheila the she Wolf and
- 16:04Ruth. Sheila opens a window, telling
- 16:08her that they all need to be open at all times.
- 16:12She warns Ruth also that she's a very light sleeper and the
- 16:15smallest noise of variance and smell will disturb her.
- 16:19Ruth says she can't control what happens when she sleeps, but
- 16:22she'll try her best. She tells her that she respects
- 16:26how committed she is to her character.
- 16:28That's crystallized. She asked her to help her find
- 16:32something like that, that she's happy to do the whole method all
- 16:34the time thing. Sheila grabs her trunk heads to
- 16:38the bathroom and closes the door.
- 16:40Ruth. It feels bad that she might have
- 16:42offended Sheila. Come on, Ruth, it's not a phase,
- 16:47it's a lifestyle, GAIL Rankin continues on puzzle.com article
- 16:54It's a look Sheila's worn for five years, and it makes her
- 16:58feel comfortable in her own skin.
- 17:00But she struggles to find acceptance from others who, like
- 17:04Ruth, assume her look is a gimmick, a part of the persona
- 17:08she's created for CLO. It's why Sheila takes such
- 17:11pleasure in being called a wolf, even if it's light, because it's
- 17:15better than being called a freak.
- 17:18It's hurtful and insulting. Yet Sheila doesn't change.
- 17:21For those people. I could kind of only hope to be
- 17:24as brave as she is because it's really hard, Rankin says.
- 17:28It's really hard to look at yourself and be who you are and
- 17:32be different like so many other women, especially the kind who
- 17:36show up to an open call for mysterious new series about
- 17:39female wrestling. Sheila just wants to be seen and
- 17:42feel validated for who she is, not what other things she could
- 17:45be as an actor. Rankin can relate to Sheila,
- 17:50since so much of succeeding in Hollywood is figuring out how to
- 17:53fit in the while also trying to stand out.
- 17:58Next scene, Carmen rooms with Rhonda Richardson, who's excited
- 18:03to have the hotel room. She has her shirt off and asks
- 18:06Carmen if she's staring at her breast.
- 18:08Carmen admits that she is. Asking how it is that they stand
- 18:11up the way they do, Rhonda says they like the attention.
- 18:15Carmen says that the only other breast that she's ever seen are
- 18:20her brother Tommy's, that she's never lived with girls before.
- 18:25She says she's going to stare because Rhonda's like an alien
- 18:28from another planet. Rhonda begins to take over
- 18:32logins from her bag, one of which is a picture of Nick
- 18:34Rhodes. The keyboard is from the 80s pop
- 18:37band Duran Duran. Miranda tells Carmen that she
- 18:41rubs lotion all over herself before bed because it's
- 18:43scientifically proven to be the only thing that stops aging in
- 18:46his tracks. She asked if Carmen wants to put
- 18:49lotion on with her, and Carmen agrees.
- 18:54Later on that night, Ruth lies awake in her bed.
- 18:58She gets up and sneaks into the bathroom.
- 19:01While there, she looks inside Sheila's case, which includes
- 19:05her various makeup supplies as well as dried meat.
- 19:09She smells the meat. It is probably beef jerky.
- 19:15Yeah, was that invented in the 80s?
- 19:17She finishes up and tries to get back into bed quietly, but the
- 19:21pipes in the bathroom groan, waking Sheila.
- 19:26Sheila's bothered by her wig being messed up, and Ruth tells
- 19:29her that she can take it off when she sleeps.
- 19:31Sheila tells her to shut up, shut up, shut up and stop
- 19:35looking at her. That morning, Sam discovered
- 19:40several of the girls lounging by the pool.
- 19:43He sniped that he's glad to see everyone's working hard.
- 19:47Jenny agrees that she's working hard on her tan, or at least
- 19:51Fortune Cookie is seeing that That's the stereotype he wants
- 19:55to roll with, that Asians work really hard, but they also do
- 19:59karate and are really shy. He asked if she's mad about
- 20:05something. She says no.
- 20:08Artie runs up asking Sam to watch and does a 450 cannonball
- 20:11into the pool. She says she calls it a Lebanese
- 20:14cannonball and his Beirut signature Moob.
- 20:19He asked if she can do it in the ring, and she admits she can't.
- 20:22Yet Stacy and Don urged Sam to get in the pool, saying they'll
- 20:27show him theirs if he shows his. He takes off his shirt, agreeing
- 20:32that it's hot out. Sherry walks up asking where her
- 20:36invite was to the pool party. She asked if they all forgot
- 20:40that they have training in 10 minutes.
- 20:42Sam agrees that she's right, telling them to put their tits
- 20:45away. This isn't Club Med.
- 20:50Later on, Bass showed the girls a video of Gorgeous George,
- 20:54saying that he was a bit more old school than today's guys,
- 20:57but he was a great gimmick. You mean he's gay?
- 21:02Says Tammy Dawson. Bash says that it doesn't matter
- 21:06that he's Gorgeous George, a pretty boy, he'll stop in the
- 21:10middle of a match to fix his hair.
- 21:13Carmen points out that his valet would actually do that for him.
- 21:15And Bash agrees. Gorgeous George In the United
- 21:20States. During the first golden age of
- 21:22professional wrestling in the 1940s through 1950s, Gorgeous
- 21:26George was one of the biggest stars of the sport, gaining
- 21:29media attention for his outrageous character, which was
- 21:32described as flamboyant and charismatic.
- 21:35He was a major national celebrity at his peak and was a
- 21:38pioneer of early entertainment television.
- 21:42He was posthumously inducted into Professional Wrestling Hall
- 21:44of Fame in 2002 and the WWE Hall of Fame as part of the Class of
- 21:492010. Muhammad Ali and James Brown
- 21:53acknowledged that their own approach to framboyant self
- 21:57promotion was influenced by George.
- 22:00This was referenced in the 2021 movie One Night in Miami.
- 22:04A 19 year old Ali made a 46 year old George at the Las Vegas
- 22:08radio station during George's radio interview.
- 22:11The restless promo caught the attention of the future
- 22:13Heavyweight champion. If George lost the cloudy
- 22:17Freddie Blassie George has claimed I'll crawl across the
- 22:21ring and cut my hair off. But that's not going to happen
- 22:23because I'm the greatest wrestler in the world, Ali, who
- 22:28later echoed that very promo when taunting opponent Sonny
- 22:31Liston recalled. I saw 15,000 people coming to
- 22:34see this man get beat and his talking did it.
- 22:37I said this is a good idea. In the locker room afterwards,
- 22:41the seasoned veteran wrestler gave the future legend some
- 22:45invaluable advice. A lot of people play to see
- 22:49someone shut your mouth. So keep on bragging, keep on
- 22:52assassin, and always be outrageous.
- 22:58Bob Dylan said meeting George changed his life.
- 23:01In Dylan's book, The Chronicles volume One, Dylan recounts a
- 23:06story of meeting Gorgeous George in person.
- 23:09He wrote. He winked and seemed to mouth
- 23:12the phrase. You're making it come alive.
- 23:15I never forgot it. It was all the recognition,
- 23:18encouragement I would need for years.
- 23:23He's held three World Heavyweight Championships in AWA
- 23:26on May 26th, 1950, in N.W.A Gulf Coast Championship Wrestling on
- 23:30November 12th in 1958 and the N.W.A Southern Heavyweight
- 23:35Championship in Mid South Sports on March 7th, 1953.
- 23:39In his career he's lost two Lucha Depth W US or Wager
- 23:43matches, one against Whippy Balor Whipper Billy Watson in a
- 23:49career versus Hair match at a live event in Toronto, Canada on
- 23:52March 12th, 1959. And the other was his final
- 23:56match against the Destroyer in a match versus Hair match, again
- 24:00at a live event in Los Angeles, CA on November 7th, 1962.
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- 26:43Debbie says that she wants a valet, and Carmen says it
- 26:47wouldn't make sense. Debbie says that she's Liberty
- 26:50Belle and she needs a manservant to carry her enormous American
- 26:53flag. Carmen says that she's self-made
- 26:57and carries her own props, and Bash agrees.
- 26:59There will be no ballet saying that The point is that they each
- 27:02need to develop their own gimmick, Melrose points out like
- 27:06a shtick. Tammy says she wants an accent.
- 27:11Rhonda says she wants one also, but another one that she and the
- 27:14one that she currently has. You know she doesn't want a
- 27:17British one again, she wants something else.
- 27:20Sam says they really need to start figuring out the whole
- 27:22show. Everything from gimmicks to
- 27:24props to matches and who is fighting who.
- 27:27He can't film them doing the hugging move every minute.
- 27:30Rhonda asked. What if your gimmick is hugging
- 27:32people? Shout out to Bailey at the time
- 27:36with a hugger gimmick on NXT and into WE in 2016.
- 27:42Next scene Melrose is asking about Rhonda's character.
- 27:46Rhonda holds up a copy of a book, Principal Genetics.
- 27:50She's smart, does Encyclopedia Britannica, Melrose says.
- 27:56Melrose says. Nerd versus party girl, classic
- 27:59structure Day high 5? Rhonda asked.
- 28:03Maybe she can hit with the book. Melrose says that she can try.
- 28:08Rhonda slams the book on Melrose die, and she complained to stop
- 28:11hitting her with knowledge. Ruth approaches Sam, saying that
- 28:16she has a lot of ideas for characters.
- 28:19They include Mint Gillette, a bitchy Southern debutante, and
- 28:23the Antichrist, the worst aunt ever, the kind of evil person
- 28:27who gives out raisins to kids on Halloween.
- 28:31Sam asked who said that she gets to invent her own character.
- 28:35Ruth points out that she didn't give him one, and she says he's
- 28:38still marinating on it. She says she's anxious when she
- 28:41feels like she's behind. She suggests she pair up with
- 28:45someone the same size as her. Sam says she can pair up with
- 28:49Sheila. Ruth begs him not to, saying
- 28:52that there's friction between them.
- 28:54Sam can't believe that she's now managed to alienate both Debbie
- 28:59and Sheila, asking Ruth if she's radioactive.
- 29:03Ruth says there's been some weirdness, and Sam says that's
- 29:05great. That means there's conflict.
- 29:08He calls Sheila over, declaring Ruth to be fresh meat.
- 29:12Ruth says they should talk about the night before, and Sheila
- 29:15says they should stick to wrestling.
- 29:18Ruth agrees that they should work on her gimmick, saying
- 29:20she's already mostly there, but could tap into the wolf thing
- 29:22even more. She could have a cage and a
- 29:26collar, and the announcer could say that it's a full moon.
- 29:30Bash asked if they're doing a werewolf gimmick, saying that he
- 29:33loves it. Sheila replies that it doesn't
- 29:36make sense because she isn't a werewolf, that those are
- 29:39mystical creatures. Bash says the same difference.
- 29:44It walks off. She lost their whole interrupal.
- 29:50Carmen and Tammy trained together in the middle of the
- 29:53ring, Machu Picchu versus the welfare queen.
- 29:59Carmen tells her to fight her, but she says she's going to sit,
- 30:03watch television, eat some lobster and caviar, all paid for
- 30:08by the American taxpayer. Carmen says she's too lazy to
- 30:13fight. Damn right agrees Tammy.
- 30:16Tammy points to Candy Bar her like a remote, making her go in
- 30:20slow motion. Bash loves the gimmick.
- 30:26Carmen pulls away the candy bar and they go at it.
- 30:29A group of wrestlers walk in, including Carmen's father, the
- 30:32legendary Goliath Jackson, who is played by Winston James
- 30:36Francis. This 7 foot tall, 330 pound
- 30:43giant made his acting debut in 2012, playing heavies, bouncers,
- 30:47prison inmates and athletes. His work includes being on
- 30:51episodes on TV shows like Sons of Anarchy, Training Day, You're
- 30:56the Worst, Brooklyn 99, and Agents of SHIELD to name a few.
- 31:03Bash greets him and Goliath asks if he's the promoter.
- 31:07Bash says he's more like the brainchild he says they don't
- 31:11have a promoter. Goliath asks who's in charge
- 31:14while checking the ring ape and if it's stable enough.
- 31:18Sam steps forward, saying he is that he's the director.
- 31:22Tommy, who is played by N.W.A wrestler and Fox News panelist
- 31:25and news personality Tyrus, gets in front of Goliath and asks Sam
- 31:29if he directed Star Wars. Sam says no.
- 31:33Tommy's disappointed and walks away while the other brother,
- 31:36Kurt, played by an unrecognizable Time Carlito
- 31:40Cologne, who is currently in the WE as a member of the LWO,
- 31:44shakes his head in disappointment and says he loves
- 31:46Star Wars. Goliath tells Carmen to go that
- 31:51she wrestles over his dead body. She says that he lets Tommy and
- 31:55Kurt do it. He says that's different.
- 31:59They're big dumb boys that he wants to find a nice man and
- 32:04have a family and a job where people treat her with respect.
- 32:08She tells him people respect her there, and he says that nobody
- 32:11respects the lady wrestler, that she's a size 2, just like
- 32:16midgets. Sam tells him he can't talk to
- 32:19her like that, but says it's fine.
- 32:22That's how they talk. Sam says he can't just come in
- 32:26and disrespect one of his actors.
- 32:28He may be big and famous, but he's also an asshole who wears
- 32:31oversized diapers for a living. Goliath smacks him.
- 32:39Sam asked if he's a mouthy housewife for him to be
- 32:41backhanded him. Goliath asked if he wants him to
- 32:45hit him like a real man, and Sam agrees.
- 32:47Whatever it takes to get him out of there, Carmen says she'll go
- 32:51apologizing to Sam as they walk out.
- 32:55Carmen asked Tommy and Curtis. They at least try to talk to
- 32:57him. Bash runs out, begging Carmen to
- 33:00wait. He kisses her passionately.
- 33:04He says that he understands the shackle of family expectations,
- 33:07that her father has nothing on his mother.
- 33:10He asked her to introduce him to his family.
- 33:12She introduced him as her boyfriend.
- 33:14He says that he and Carmen are very much in love, and she
- 33:17agrees to. They take their relationship
- 33:19very seriously, Bash says. They're taking things slow, and
- 33:23Carmen says not too slow because she's moving in with him.
- 33:27Goliath says. They're both terrible, that if
- 33:29they want to wrestle, they need to learn how to sell.
- 33:33Carmen agrees that she lied, and he says she's been lying for
- 33:36weeks about a new job at Macy's. She says that's because he
- 33:41wouldn't let her audition and she's 25.
- 33:44She doesn't need his permission. He can either be supportive or
- 33:48she'll leave like Mom did. He stares at blankly at her.
- 33:56So a few things here. Carmen smiled like she enjoyed
- 33:58that kiss, her character who was inspired by our original GLOW
- 34:03wrestler Mount Fiji. Mountain Fiji.
- 34:06She's also she was also Samoan back in the 2012 Gorgeous Ladies
- 34:09of Wrestling documentary while in the hospital and getting
- 34:12ready to attend a reunion with the rest of the girls.
- 34:15Fiji had admitted that she had a crush on the director, Matt
- 34:18Limber, and even told him to his face at the reunion bash.
- 34:24Is not the director here, I understand that, But the fact
- 34:27that they included some kind of nod to the crush that Fiji had
- 34:30into these two characters rather than Sam himself, which wouldn't
- 34:34fit the storyline. It brought great joy to the
- 34:39actors who portrayed Mount Fiji before she passed away on
- 34:41January 2, 2018. Next scene Tammy brings Sam some
- 34:48ice. He says that the guy had £100.00
- 34:51on him and fights for a living. It wasn't fair what he did.
- 34:55He asks what she wants and she says she asks concerns about her
- 34:58character. He invites her to sit down and
- 35:01she says her character is offensive.
- 35:05Sam says that's the genius of it, Commentary on an existing
- 35:08stereotype. It soiled off a fuck you to the
- 35:11Republican Party, their welfare reform and race baiting.
- 35:15Shit. She asked if other people
- 35:18realized that, like her son who goes to Stanford, she doesn't
- 35:22want him turning on the TV and getting upset.
- 35:25She says she wants a job. He asks if she's never had a
- 35:29role she was uncomfortable in before, and she tells him she's
- 35:32never had any role. She's only ever done background
- 35:36work. Some lines on Scarecrow and
- 35:38Missus King and give me a break, he says.
- 35:41That sort of work is middle of the road and safe.
- 35:44He likes to push the envelope and jolt people into
- 35:47consciousness. His first feature was called
- 35:51Swamp Maidens of the Vietcong. He has her cassette tape and he
- 35:55urges her to watch it, as well as Gina the Machina, which was
- 35:59so offensive it was banned in for the United States, which he
- 36:04pretty proud of. He gives her several other
- 36:06tapes, Couch of Pain, Love, Disco, One and two, telling her
- 36:11she needs to watch them and make notes because there's a lot of
- 36:13inspiration there. Ruth comes home and finds her
- 36:19husband, Mark, there. She asked him what he's doing
- 36:22there, saying she's not ready to talk to him.
- 36:25He says she's made that pretty clear given that she hangs up
- 36:28every time he calls. She tells him to get where he
- 36:32needs and get out. He says that he won't.
- 36:34He pulls out a piece of paper. She asked if this is a sceptive
- 36:38speech. He says he gets flustered, so he
- 36:41begins to read. He's been reading a book about
- 36:44marriage, and she replied sarcastically that a book is
- 36:47really going to solve things. He reads from the notes saying
- 36:51that he's moving back in. He's been sleeping on his
- 36:54cousin's couch for two weeks and he's given her space.
- 36:57She quips that sleeping a couch sounds awful, asking if there's
- 37:01anything she can do to make him feel better.
- 37:05He says she's still angry and that's fine, but he has the
- 37:07rights. He pays the mortgage and the
- 37:10utilities, so he's going to stay there in their guest room.
- 37:12Slash office slash craft room. If she doesn't like it, she can
- 37:17file for divorce. But this is his house.
- 37:22He asked if he can put Randy to bed.
- 37:25She tells him to be his guest if he wants to sleep there and
- 37:28leaves with Randy. I have notes.
- 37:33I don't know when I wrote this dude during the week, but I said
- 37:38it all caps the audacity of this man.
- 37:49There are still a lot of things in this world that we all need
- 37:52to learn. Often times these things may
- 37:55seem trivial, but lessons nonetheless.
- 38:00It's been many years, and now it's time that I told you how it
- 38:03all began. It started with a virus, And no,
- 38:08not the one you're thinking of. This virus came so quick, there
- 38:14was no way we could have prepared for it.
- 38:17Everyone was still focused on COVID-19 when it struck.
- 38:21Some believed it was a variant, but they were wrong.
- 38:26Before we knew it, the world was thrown into chaos.
- 38:29Riots broke out in almost every major city.
- 38:32Looters began taking whatever they could in each other's
- 38:36lives. People lost loved ones.
- 38:40They lost homes, and some lost themselves.
- 38:45After about two weeks, civilization had crumbled into a
- 38:49land of lawlessness. Everything seemed lost until
- 38:55they found people. That's when we gained the one
- 38:59thing we all deserved. Hope.
- 39:07On April 15th, 2022, my heart began to beat the purpose once
- 39:13again. This is the story of Raising
- 39:18Hope with you.
- 39:43Ruth enters her shared room with Sheila, who was on her bed
- 39:46reading The Clan of The Cave Bear, a 1980 novel and epic work
- 39:51of prehistoric fiction by John M oh about prehistoric times.
- 39:56It is the first book in the Earth's children's book series
- 39:59which speculates on the possibilities of interactions
- 40:01between a Neanderthal and modern CRO Magnon humans.
- 40:06I'm guessing Sheila's going to go to premiere the following
- 40:08year. When it hits theaters, Ruth lies
- 40:11down the bed only to find a dead animal.
- 40:14She shouts and gets up. She asks Sheila what it is, and
- 40:17Sheila says that it's a squirrel.
- 40:21Ruth asked what's wrong with her, that she would kill it.
- 40:24She says that she didn't, that she found it and brought it
- 40:26home. She suggests that maybe Ruth
- 40:29should sleep somewhere else. Ruth grabs a towel and picks up
- 40:33a squirrel, telling Sheila that she's not going anywhere.
- 40:36She look and take the squirrel and sleep somewhere else
- 40:39herself. You God damn werewolf.
- 40:44Sheila says that she just called her a wolf.
- 40:45She says that most people call her a freak and thanks her.
- 40:49She takes the towel deposits outside.
- 40:52She tells Ruth that she's worn her costume, or some version of
- 40:55it, every day for the past five years.
- 40:57She says it's not a costume, it's who she is, She says.
- 41:01It's not for Ruth, it's for her. Ruth tells her that she gets it.
- 41:07Sheila says that she knows she's human, but she says that she's a
- 41:10wolf. Spiritually, Ruth tells her that
- 41:14when she was 10, her grandfather died and she was depressed.
- 41:18She connected with Anne of Green Gables and wore a straw hat and
- 41:21fluff puffy sleeves to school every day for a whole year.
- 41:25Sheila smiles, saying that she hasn't lived with anyone in a
- 41:27very long time. Me neither agrees Ruth.
- 41:32Sheila suggests that they could have a system for privacy.
- 41:36Ruth suggests the old sock on the door trick.
- 41:39Sheila puts a sock on the door and Ruth realizes she means
- 41:42right now. Ruth leaves and Sheila put the
- 41:45top security lock on. Back to the bustle.com article.
- 41:51Shannon Carlin ends with with like so many other women
- 41:54especially, the kind of show who show up an open call for a
- 41:57mysterious new series about female wrestling.
- 42:00Sheila just wants to be seen and feel validated for who she is,
- 42:04not what others think she should be.
- 42:06As an as an actor. Rankin can relate to Sheila
- 42:10since so much of the sitting in Hollywood is figuring out how to
- 42:13fit in while also trying to stand out.
- 42:19Quote You know, I struggle like every woman does, with feeling
- 42:22confident and good in my own skin.
- 42:25Rank and admit, and Glow's definitely given me a new way of
- 42:29living. Looking at what my body can do
- 42:31and it's used, and the power of bravery and strength and how can
- 42:35make you feel is liberating rank and chalks.
- 42:39That liberated feeling up to working side by side with so
- 42:42many strong women, from the actors to the creators of the
- 42:45show's executive producer, Angie Kohan, who created Netflix
- 42:50original Orange Is the New Black.
- 42:52It created an environment where it felt like we were the people
- 42:55in power, she says. We were made powerful people.
- 42:59We were made powerful because there were powerful women
- 43:02telling us we're powerful. Tammy hosted viewing at one of
- 43:08Sam's videos. Let this go, she tells the other
- 43:11girls to prepare themselves to be offended, disgusted and
- 43:15horrified. Vicki reads the back of the box
- 43:18of the movie Quote Every night a group of friends attend the
- 43:21greatest dance party of their lives, knowing that there's a
- 43:25Stroke of dawn. One of them Will you be randomly
- 43:29murdered? Who is the monster in the mirror
- 43:32mask From Shock Master Sam. Sylvia Blood Disco is a
- 43:38disturbing morality tale for our generation.
- 43:41End Quote Keith joins the group and asks Jenny who she is.
- 43:47Keith joins the group and Jenny asks who he is.
- 43:50He explains that he's Cherry's husband.
- 43:52Jenny asks where Cherry is and he says that she's taking a
- 43:55shower because there's no hot water in the morning because
- 43:57there are 14 other women living in the Shitty Rundown Motel.
- 44:03Next scene, Debbie makes moves. Next scene, Debbie moved into
- 44:08the hotel where Bash has told the staff there to give her a
- 44:11poolside view. She's brought Randy with her
- 44:14instead. He gets a view of the parking
- 44:17lot back downstairs as the film viewing continues, key points
- 44:23saying that he's in the film as a guy on a motorcycle.
- 44:27Tammy notes he's worked with Sam before and he agrees, saying
- 44:30that he worked with him twice and partied with him for five
- 44:33years. After that, she asked if he
- 44:35could trust him or if he's just another white racist.
- 44:38Director Keith says that in his experience, he's more sexist
- 44:42than racist. The film suddenly cuts off in
- 44:46the middle of a scene and Sam shows up talking instead.
- 44:49He says that he's a filmmaker and that people say he has a
- 44:53zany sense of humor. He's smoking and says that if he
- 44:57can't stand smoker, you should just Fast forward to his next
- 45:01schmuck. He says that he's at the age
- 45:05where he's looking for a partner he can't.
- 45:07He can stand with a great smile and a great figure, someone who
- 45:11doesn't tear him apart like a banshee.
- 45:13When he makes a mistake, someone who is fun and not a hypocrite.
- 45:18Under 30, he says to choose him because his cock works great.
- 45:24The film cuts back on. Stacey quips that she'd date
- 45:27him, saying that he's cute and lonely and his cock works great.
- 45:32Don tells her not to believe anything she sees on television.
- 45:36Keith says he's out of there. He feels embarrassed.
- 45:41He's uncomfortable. Tammy says she doesn't know
- 45:44about them, but she learned a lot Tonight.
- 45:48Debbie walks outside, humming while holding Randy walking
- 45:52towards the pool. She sits down in the chair by
- 45:55the pool. She sees Ruth sleeping in
- 45:58another chair on the other side. Again, she feels broken inside.
- 46:04Here was her best friend who slept with her husband and she
- 46:07is outside with her watching her sleep on the chair.
- 46:11She ignores it and lies down herself and the episode ends
- 46:14there when over his shaws of pool and both of them at
- 46:17opposite ends of the pool. Maybe it's me, but honestly
- 46:24thought this shot was great. Opposite ends of the pool there
- 46:29at opposite ends in the storyline.
- 46:31What if Debbie wanted to put Randy down, run over, and kick
- 46:34her some more? But it makes for an interesting
- 46:37storyline later when two people who hate each other wrestle
- 46:40against one another. More on that in later episodes.
- 46:46The episode won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Production
- 46:48Design for a Narrative program Half hour or less.
- 46:53Character development on this episode is top notch.
- 46:56All the girls are finding ways to include their gimmicks.
- 46:58Earlier there was a scene where Fortune Cookie was practicing
- 47:01with a sword. Perhaps everyone has a place on
- 47:05the show except for Ruth who is trying to find her place.
- 47:08She soon will, but this point in time she's struggling and Sam
- 47:11hasn't thought of a gimmick for her yet.
- 47:15That's going to do it for tonight.
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