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- 0:01Speaker 1: A man named John Brockman today, and John Brockman is
- 0:04a literary agent who it works with all of the
- 0:08scientists who write books, and all of the academics who
- 0:11write books, and all of the supposed great minds. Well,
- 0:16John Brockman was one of Jeffrey Epstein's enablers, a man
- 0:20who brought Jeffrey Epstein closer to these scientists. And the
- 0:25article we're going to read today from The New Republic
- 0:28is going to detail just how that occurred. Now, this
- 0:32article came out on August twenty second of twenty nineteen,
- 0:37and the article was written by Evgeny Morozov and the
- 0:42headline Jeffrey Epstein's intellectual enabler. How did Epstein meet so
- 0:47many luminaries in the world of science and technology? It
- 0:51all might trace back to literary agent John Brockman. And
- 0:55I've heard John Brockman's name brought up several times to
- 0:59me in private conversations with people who are close to
- 1:03this case. And I've been meaning to get around to
- 1:05talk about John Brockman. And since the news is so
- 1:09light lately, I figured today would be the perfect time
- 1:13to do that. So let's jump into this article and
- 1:17see just exactly what John Brockman was up to. If
- 1:23you are an accomplished science or technology writer, your books
- 1:26are probably handled by the most powerful literary agency in
- 1:29the field, the famous John Brockman Incorporated, started by John
- 1:34Brockman and now run by Max Brockman, his son. As
- 1:38it happens, Max is also my agent and has been
- 1:41since my first book was sold in two thousand and nine.
- 1:44As agencies go, I only have positive things to report.
- 1:48The Brockmens fight for their authors and get us very
- 1:51handsome advances. That's what agents are for, of course, right, Look,
- 1:55not knocking the guy for his hustle. We all have
- 1:58to have our hustle, and we all have to be
- 1:59good at our job, right, And if you're a literary agent,
- 2:02your job is to make sure that your writers are
- 2:04getting deals and they're writing books. So not knocking the
- 2:09man for his hustle. I have no problem with the
- 2:11fact that he's a literary agent, right. My problem is
- 2:13he enabled Jeffrey Epstein. My problem is he brought Jeffrey
- 2:16Epstein into a circle and gave him credibility of off
- 2:21of his own name, off of the back of his
- 2:23own name. And when you do that you're vouching for
- 2:26this guy. And in the world I come from, Well,
- 2:28if you vouch for somebody, you're responsible for their behavior.
- 2:35But that's not the whole story. John is also the president, founder,
- 2:39and chief and presierro of the Edge Foundation, which has
- 2:43earned a stellar reputation as an eclectic platform for conversations
- 2:47that involve scientists, artists, and technologists. There is more than
- 2:51one Edge Foundation, though. There is the one meant for
- 2:54public consumption with its annual question e g. What are
- 2:58you optimistic about? Answered by famous intellectuals and thinkers, and
- 3:02one meant for private consumption by members of Brockman's elite network.
- 3:07The former exists primarily online. The latter has a vibrant
- 3:11real life component, with sumptuous dinners, exclusive conferences, and quite
- 3:16a bit of travel on private jets. It functions as
- 3:19an elaborate massage of the ego and apparently much else
- 3:23for the rich, the smart, and the powerful. Again, we
- 3:28see this time and time again with business leaders and
- 3:32politicians and you know, hedge fund managers, et cetera, et cetera.
- 3:38But now we also see that the highest in the
- 3:41realms of academia, the scientists, the doctors, the professors. All
- 3:46of these people are just as susceptible to guys like
- 3:49Jeffrey Epstein as well, and if not more. You see,
- 3:53these guys might be the leading minds at what they do,
- 3:57but that's about it. Right. If you take a look
- 4:00at most of these scientists, they're not exactly what you
- 4:02would call, you know, guys that are gonna knock your
- 4:05girls socks off if they come and sit down and
- 4:07look at them. Right, these are the kind of guys
- 4:09that are super intelligent, but pretty goofy for the most part. Right,
- 4:14these guys weren't playing on the football team. They weren't
- 4:17shotgun and beers on Saturday nights. They weren't getting into fights,
- 4:21they weren't getting the hot cheerleader girls in school, none
- 4:25of that. So that was all repressed for them. Now
- 4:27later on in life, well, the world's their oyster, and
- 4:30Jeffrey Epstein just happens to be serving seafood. Over the
- 4:35course of my research into the history of digital culture,
- 4:38I've got to know quite a lot about John's role
- 4:40in shaping the digital and especially the intellectual world that
- 4:44we live in. I've examined and scanned many of his
- 4:47letters in the archives of famous men, and they are
- 4:50mostly men such as Marshall McCluin, Stuart Brand, and Gregory Bateson.
- 4:56He is no mere literary agent. He is a true
- 4:59organic inte sellectual of the digital revolution, shaping trends. Shaping
- 5:04trends rather than responding to them. Would the MIT, Media Lab,
- 5:08TED conferences and Wired have the clout and intellectual orientation
- 5:12that they have now without the extensive network cultivated by
- 5:16Brockman over decades, I, for one, very much doubt it. Again.
- 5:21I've talked about these TED talks and these these Media
- 5:25Lab conferences and the Edge Foundation for years, and a
- 5:30lot of times it fell upon deaf ears, you know.
- 5:33I would speak to people about it and their eyes
- 5:35would glaze over. There's always been something going on, something
- 5:39wrong with these scientists, these people that were hanging out
- 5:42with Jeffrey Epstein. We never had anybody come out really
- 5:46and talk about it. Besides, you know, when Virginia so
- 5:48bravely stepped forward and talked about you know, Minski and
- 5:51some of the other scientists and stuff. But these guys
- 5:55have been able to go underneath the radar, operate under
- 5:59the radar for so long because everyone looks up to
- 6:02them because they're so smart and they're so respected. But meanwhile, meanwhile,
- 6:07in the dark of night and in on the privacy
- 6:10of Jeffrey Island's Jeffrey Epstein's Island, well, their real characters
- 6:15started to show through. So I've always been skeptical of
- 6:18these conferences like Ted Talk and the Edge Foundation, any
- 6:22of these places where people get up on a stage
- 6:24and they start preaching to you and they're acting holier
- 6:27than now and acting as if they're better than you.
- 6:30I automatically start to think that something is going on.
- 6:35It's just like when the government says to you, everything's
- 6:37fine here, everything's all right. We're from the government, we're
- 6:39here to help. Then you know, for a fact it's
- 6:42time to panic. Lately, John has been in the news
- 6:47for other reasons, namely because of his troubling connections to
- 6:50Jeffrey Epstein, the so called financier pedophile who reportedly hanged
- 6:55himself earlier this month while facing federal charges of sex trafficking.
- 7:00Epstein participated in the Edge Foundation's annual questions and attended
- 7:04its billionaire's dinners. Brockman may also be the reason why
- 7:08so many prominent academics from Stephen Pinker to Daniel Dennett
- 7:12have found themselves answering awkward questions about their associations with Epstein. Now,
- 7:17the way Gilaine Maxwell acted for the world of the
- 7:21socialite for the Upper Crest so called polite society, with
- 7:26Jeffrey Epstein as a conduit, that is the same exact
- 7:29way John Brockman acted as a conduit for Epstein into
- 7:32the world of intellectuals and scientists. Now, I'm not saying
- 7:36that John Brockman had the same sort of role as
- 7:39Gilaine Maxwell. Okay, nothing like that. But he was the
- 7:42introduction man, right. He was the man that introduced Epstein
- 7:46to these scientists, who vouched for Epstein with these scientists,
- 7:49brought them all together at the Edge Foundation, took a
- 7:51bunch of money from Jeffrey Epstein. Right. So Brockman was
- 7:55the pivot man for Epstein when it came to procuring scientists,
- 7:59the same way Gilay Maxwell was that the woman when
- 8:02it came to procuring young girls for him to abuse.
- 8:08There are clients of Brockman's. Marvin Minsky, the prominent Mit
- 8:11scientist who surfaced as one of Epstein's Island buddies, a
- 8:14client of Brockman's. And we know that Virginia said that
- 8:18Marvin Minsky was not only an enabler, but that she
- 8:22was trafficked to him as well. And I talked about
- 8:24Minsky on an episode yesterday morning, I believe, or the
- 8:28day before. I don't know. All the days are blending
- 8:30together to me right now. But Minsky is definitely somebody
- 8:33that flew under the radar for way too long, and
- 8:37he passed away recently, so obviously he's not somebody whose
- 8:40name is in the forefront. But I don't think that
- 8:43his legacy should go down with that without that being
- 8:46part of it. Right What he did to Virginia that
- 8:48needs to be talked about, that needs to be known.
- 8:51And you know, the media never really talks about Minsky.
- 8:54They never have. And of course there's more, there's juicier
- 8:59people involved in the case for them, of course, because
- 9:01health wants. Nobody even knows who Minsky is unless you're
- 9:04involved in you know, science and stuff. But the fact
- 9:07of the matter is Minsky needs more, needs more scrutiny,
- 9:11and he needs to be looked at harder by the
- 9:13legacy media. Choi Ito, the director of the Elite Research
- 9:18facility MIT Media Lab, who has recently acknowledged extensive ties
- 9:22to Epstein. Huh, also a client of Brockman's. You see
- 9:25the pattern here, folks, You see how it works. All
- 9:28of these people. Brockman would be the center guy, right
- 9:31the pivot. Epstein would come to him, Brockman would make
- 9:34the introduction, Epstein would suck them into his orbit, and
- 9:38we all know the story after that. Should we just
- 9:42write it off as natural collateral damage for someone with
- 9:45a network as extensive as Brockman's, he is, after all,
- 9:48a networker's networker. Yeah, sorry, negative. One thing we've learned
- 9:52in this case, the coincidence aren't the coincidences aren't just
- 9:56coincidences in this case, There's always more to it. There's
- 9:59always more under beneath the surface. When you do just
- 10:01a little scratch of the surface, you always find a
- 10:04little bit more. Based on my observations over the last decade,
- 10:08his whole His whole operation runs on two simple but
- 10:11powerful principles. First, the total value of the network, and
- 10:15thus his own value goes up if the nodes start
- 10:18connecting to each other independently of him. Yeah, well, that's
- 10:22how networking usually works, right, You make the introduction. You
- 10:26water the seeds, then you let the garden grow. And
- 10:29Brockman was very good at that, very good at that,
- 10:32nurturing relationships between people like Epstein with money and scientists
- 10:36who needed that money to get their projects off the ground. Second,
- 10:43the more diverse the network, the more attractive to its newcomers,
- 10:47as well as to all the exist existing members. Billionaires
- 10:51are rich, but they might harbor an insecurity complex related
- 10:55to not being very well read. Looking at you, Bill Gates. Oooh,
- 10:59zinger at Bill Gates, our friend Bill Gates. Scientists, in contrast,
- 11:04are usually well read, but might aspire to finance to
- 11:07fancy your cars and luxuries and funding for their pet
- 11:09projects and so on. There's something for everyone, And in
- 11:13the case of Epstein, some one seems to have done
- 11:16the matchmaking. Yeah, of course it's obvious. We know that
- 11:19that was happening, right, And people who followed the story
- 11:22have heard of John Brockman, and people know that he's
- 11:25a big time literary agent and somebody who is, you know,
- 11:28very connected when it comes to scientists, et cetera, et cetera.
- 11:31But it's obvious when you really dig deep and you
- 11:35take a look at what was going on that Brockman
- 11:38was working, as you know, the doorway into the scientific world,
- 11:42the man that would match these people together, like he
- 11:45was the millionaire matchmaker. Right, Oh, Epstein has money, this
- 11:48guy has a pet project. Epstein might like, let's get
- 11:50him together. And then, of course I'm sure Brockman was
- 11:53getting a percent somewhere down the line. Obviously I don't
- 11:56have evidence to prove that, but it works well with
- 11:59our entire thread of money laundering. Right. We all know
- 12:03that if you were to match up all of the
- 12:05receipts on the cash transactions, et cetera, et cetera, how
- 12:08many of them were reported to the IRS. I'd really
- 12:11like to know that in Brockman's world, billionaires, scientists, artists, novelists, journalists,
- 12:19and musicians all blend together to produce enormous value for
- 12:23each other and of course for Brockmen, again a symbiotic relationship.
- 12:28There's nothing wrong with that for a literary agent to
- 12:31you know, bring people together to try and network to
- 12:34help his clients get funding, et cetera, et cetera. The
- 12:37problem is when you're using Jeffrey Epstein as that lynchpin,
- 12:41when you're using Jeffrey Epstein as the draw. Brockman's a
- 12:46smart guy, all right. And did anyone thinks that Brockman
- 12:51didn't have an idea what Epstein was up to? I don't.
- 12:53I'm sorry, but I don't believe that this mingling of
- 12:58clients doesn't happen in their literary agencies, at least not
- 13:02to this extent. Nor does this happen at Brockman Incorporated.
- 13:05As all such interactions that we know of took place
- 13:08under the umbrella of the Edge Foundation, a sibling organization
- 13:12with Brockman as its president. Of course, you don't want
- 13:16to shit where you eat, right, you don't want to
- 13:18put it under the banner of your literary agency. So
- 13:20you start this thing called the Edge Foundation. Perfect. We'll
- 13:23get this Edge Foundation together, and we'll bring together all
- 13:27of these scientists with their fantastic benefactor, Jeffrey Epstein. Oh,
- 13:31did I mention there's a bunch of young girls on
- 13:33the island too. Would Brockman Incorporated exist without the Edge Foundation? Possibly,
- 13:42and it did at the outset. Would it be as
- 13:45powerful trading on Brockman's ability to rub shoulders with academics
- 13:49and billionaires alike. Probably not? Still I can attest that
- 13:53Brockman's authors faced no pressure to get involved with EDGE. I,
- 13:57for example, diligently responded to their annual question between twenty
- 14:01ten and two thousand and thirty. Was as much of
- 14:04an enabler as anybody else. Right, This guy John Brockman
- 14:09is very powerful in the industry that he is in,
- 14:13and he is definitely a gatekeeper to Epstein. Right, definitely
- 14:17was a gatekeeper to Epstein and definitely held the keys
- 14:20to a lot of these scientists and authors, you know,
- 14:24moving their projects forward on the back of Epstein's dime
- 14:29and the fact that they told their authors to stay
- 14:31away from politics and stuff when it comes to responding
- 14:34to the questions, Well, that doesn't shock anybody, right, They
- 14:37don't want them, you know, their overlords in one of
- 14:40the Alphabet Soup agencies that were running Epstein to get
- 14:43upset with the commentary. When the Epstein Brockman connection first
- 14:48surfaced in the news, I wanted to give Brockman the
- 14:51benefit of the doubt. It's possible I thought that Epstein
- 14:54was just one of the many rich people in Brockmann's orbit,
- 14:58or maybe the two had been close before Epstein's first
- 15:01criminal case in the mid two thousands, or maybe Brockman
- 15:04was in the dark about Epstein's tendencies and they only
- 15:07talked about quantum physics and artificial intelligence. Yeah. Look, I
- 15:11can understand why the author would feel that way about Brockman.
- 15:14He's his agent. He wants to think the best of
- 15:16the guy. Of course, you always want to give people
- 15:19the benefit of the doubt, right. You don't want to
- 15:20go into things and be like, all right, this dude's
- 15:22a part of Epstein's operation. That's it. Nothing can change
- 15:26my mind. Of course not. You always want to give
- 15:28people the benefit of the doubt. You want to look
- 15:30at the evidence and you want to make sure that
- 15:32your line of thinking is clear and that it has
- 15:35nothing to do with a confirmation bias or anything like that. Right,
- 15:39So this gentleman, the author Morozov, who wrote this article,
- 15:45wanted to give Brockman the benefit of the doubt. But
- 15:48obviously it doesn't add up, right when the pieces start
- 15:51to come into play, you can't try and you know,
- 15:55bend the truth to make it fit what you think
- 15:59the situation should be. You just have to follow the
- 16:02truth wherever it goes. In the last few weeks, such
- 16:06a charitable interpretation has become very hard to sustain, especially
- 16:10as other details implicating Marvin Minsky enjoy Eto, who has
- 16:15apologized for taking money from Epstein, became public. John Brockman
- 16:19has not said a word publicly about his connection to
- 16:22Epstein since the latest scandal broke, preferring to maintain silence
- 16:26on the matter that I have found quite infuriating. Yeah,
- 16:30it is pretty infuriating, right. A guy like Brockman should
- 16:33have came out right away, distanced himself from Epstein, distanced
- 16:36himself from the whole entire situation, and answered questions about
- 16:40his relationship with Epstein and as his role as a gatekeeper.
- 16:43But instead, like the rest of them, he just clammed up,
- 16:47quieted down and hoped it would go away. And that's
- 16:50what they all hope. Because of the first time around
- 16:52how things went, they hope that this time around it's
- 16:54the same thing. That nothing, the wheels don't turn, nobody
- 16:58gets in trouble and justice this has never served well.
- 17:01I'm here to tell them this isn't the last time around.
- 17:03All right. It's a whole new world we're living in, folks.
- 17:06There was no social media like this the last time around.
- 17:09There was no way for the survivors to go directly
- 17:12to the people with their case and their story. Now
- 17:15there is. And guess what, We've completely bypassed all of
- 17:18their buddies in the legacy media. We've completely bypassed all
- 17:22of their friends like George Stepanopolis and Amy Robach. Okay,
- 17:25we're taking the case directly to the people this time,
- 17:28and it terrifies them. It scares them. They know that
- 17:32there is no place for them to run. There is
- 17:35no safe haven for these people at this point. Knowing
- 17:40that Brockman likes to brag about all the famous people
- 17:43he has met and befriended, you can easily count the
- 17:45seconds until he name checks Marshall mccluhan or Andy Warhol
- 17:50or Gregory Bateson in a casual conversation. I decided to
- 17:54look over our correspondence over the past decade and see
- 17:57if he might have name dropped Epstein somewhere. Of course
- 18:00he did. Browsing through our email correspondence, I stumbled upon
- 18:05a most peculiar email from September twelfth of twenty thirteen.
- 18:09It was very laconic je FYI JB, followed by my
- 18:14short bio and some media clippings. You can check the
- 18:17entire PDF of the correspondence here. There's a hyperlink in
- 18:21this story. Make sure you click on the link in
- 18:22the description box after the article and you could check
- 18:25out that PDF. Strangely, it was sent to me and
- 18:29had no other contacts in CC. Perhaps he wanted to
- 18:32send it to JE but put my email there by mistake.
- 18:36When I commented on the meaning of this cryptic message,
- 18:38he responded with the following message, reproduced here in full.
- 18:43I missed that one. Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire science philanthropist pedophile,
- 18:48showed up at his weekend's event by helicopter with his
- 18:50beautiful young assistant from Belarus. He'll be in Cambridge in
- 18:54a couple of weeks. Ask me who he should meet.
- 18:56You are one of the people I suggested and told
- 18:58him I would send some links. He's the guy who
- 19:00gave Harvard thirty million dollars to set up Martin Noak.
- 19:04He's been extremely generous in funding projects of many of
- 19:07our friends and clients. He also got into trouble and
- 19:10spent a year in jail. That's what he says. Just
- 19:12he got in trouble and spent a year in jail.
- 19:14That's what Brockman says in the email. Doesn't go into detail,
- 19:17no context, nothing right. Why are you providing cover for him,
- 19:21mister Brockman, Why don't you let your other people know
- 19:24the people that you're representing, the sort of scoundrel, the
- 19:27sort of snake that you're trying to get them in
- 19:28bed with. If he contacts you, it's probably worth your
- 19:33time to meet him, as he is extremely bright and interesting. Really,
- 19:37what he means is extremely rich. Last time I had
- 19:40visited his house, the largest private residence in NYC. I
- 19:44walked in to find him in a sweatsuit and a
- 19:46British guy in his suit with suspenders getting foot massages
- 19:49from a young, well dressed Russian woman after grilling me
- 19:52for a while about cybersecurity. The brit name Andy was
- 19:56commenting on the Swedish authorities and the charges against Julian
- 19:59aesanje Andy, meaning Prince Andrew aka the Prince of punk Asses,
- 20:03the Prince of lies. We think they're liberal in Sweden,
- 20:07but it's more like northern England as opposed to southern Europe,
- 20:09he said. In Monaco, Albert works twelve hours a day,
- 20:13but at nine pm when he goes out, he does
- 20:15whatever he wants and nobody cares. But if I do it,
- 20:19I'm in big trouble. At that point, I realized that
- 20:22the recipient of IRENA's foot massage was His Royal Highness,
- 20:25Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Indeed, a week later,
- 20:29on a slow news day, the cover of the New
- 20:31York Post had a full page photo of Jeffrey and
- 20:33Andrew walking in Central Park under the headline the Prince
- 20:37in the perv. That was the end of Andrew's role
- 20:40as the UK trade Ambassador, to which I responded, thanks
- 20:44for clarifying this. I'm sure he's an all around sweet guy,
- 20:47but I'll have to think about it. It could be
- 20:49that I spent far too much time in the Soros bubble,
- 20:51but I have zero interest in meeting billionaires. If I did,
- 20:54I'd be going to Davis every year. But I appreciate
- 20:57you taking the time. That's interesting that he brings up
- 21:00George Soros here, and that he was in George Soros's
- 21:03bubble and wants nothing to do with that either. I mean,
- 21:06George Soros is another one of these billionaire investors that
- 21:09we could probably do a whole entire podcast on right,
- 21:13because all of these guys doesn't matter your political bend, folks. Okay,
- 21:17all of these big players, all of these big time
- 21:21bundlers and money money guys, package guys, these guys are
- 21:24all bad for business, all right. These guys are the
- 21:27worst kind of lobbyists. Here is Brockman again. A billionaire
- 21:32who owns Victoria's secret plus a modeling agency is a
- 21:36different kind of animal. But I hear you and basically agree.
- 21:39Gregory Bateson once advised me that of all of our
- 21:42human inventions, economic man is by far the dullest JB.
- 21:47And here's my final answer. A billionaire who owns Victoria's
- 21:51secret plus a modeling agency one more reason to stay away. Actually,
- 21:55and look, the author of this article seems like a
- 21:57savant at this point, right, for avoiding all of this,
- 22:00staying out of the clutches of Epstein, not falling into
- 22:02the trap. So he definitely needs to get some props, right,
- 22:05Evgeny Morozov needs to get some props for not falling
- 22:07into that trap. I didn't know who Epstein was at
- 22:11the time, since I've never been keen to hang out
- 22:13with billionaires, Mine was a natural response, I declined Brockman's
- 22:17invitations to hang out on his farm or attend his
- 22:19famous billionaire dinners. So I didn't think much of that
- 22:22invitation and eventually forgot about it. Needless to say, I
- 22:26never heard from Epstein or from Brockman about Epstein. Of course,
- 22:30they try and dangle the carrot, right, but if you're
- 22:32not willing to play ball, they don't want anything to
- 22:34do with you. They don't want any loose lips on
- 22:36their ship, right. They know what happens with loose lips,
- 22:39so they don't want any of that nonsense. If you're
- 22:41not down with their proclivities, if you're not a fellow traveler,
- 22:44you're not welcome. In that old email, it seems clear
- 22:49that Brockman was acting as Epstein's pr men, his liaison
- 22:53with the world of scientists and intellectuals that Brockman had cultivated.
- 22:56Just like I said, Brockman was the pivot player here.
- 22:59He was the door, the revolving door that swung and
- 23:02opened the whole entire world of academia to Jeffrey Epstein
- 23:06and gave him the credibility for these scientists to listen
- 23:10to what he has to say. That Brockman has said
- 23:15nothing over this affair is rather bewildering. He did not
- 23:18return requests for comment left on his email and voicemail.
- 23:21I do know that John Brockman has been in poor
- 23:23health over the last few years, so I've cut him
- 23:26some slack, But patient as I am, the time is
- 23:28run out. It's not as if the Epstein story broke yesterday.
- 23:32It's been more than a month since Epstein was arrested
- 23:35on the latest charges. Still no word on the issue,
- 23:39And now that I've found that old email he sent me,
- 23:41I cannot believe that he knew absolutely nothing of Epstein's
- 23:44wild sexual escapades. In fact, his email suggests he was
- 23:49trying to capitalize on them to recruit yet another useful
- 23:52idiot into Epstein's network. One hundred percent, one hundred percent,
- 23:57that's what these guys did. This network was vast, folks,
- 24:01so much larger than we could have ever imagined, or
- 24:05that that's even been presented to us. I feel like
- 24:08getting a punchboard and setting it up like they did
- 24:12in the wire to take down Barksdale and stirring your bell.
- 24:15That's how I feel right about now. Is in my office,
- 24:17I'm about to set one up with pictures and really
- 24:19start digging into this, like I'm a detective McNulty over here,
- 24:23because this, this is the many layers of this, the
- 24:28many chambers of this. It's so vast, it is so
- 24:31vast that it's hard to wrap your mind around how
- 24:33many top level important people were involved in not only
- 24:37the actual abuse, but enabling this to go on for
- 24:42so many years. There's more. A close analysis of Edge
- 24:47foundation publicly available financial statements suggest that between two thousand
- 24:51and one and twenty and fifteen, it has received six
- 24:55hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars from Epstein's various foundations
- 24:59in Man any of those years, Epstein was Edge's sole donor.
- 25:03Yet how many of Edge's contributors, let alone readers, knew
- 25:07Epstein played so large a role in the organization. And now,
- 25:13remember those are just the numbers that we have on
- 25:15the books. We don't really know how much money was
- 25:18given to any of these people, any of these foundations.
- 25:20We know that Epstein loved to spread the money around,
- 25:23but was it always you know, done on the up
- 25:26and up straight transfers of money or how many bags
- 25:30of cash were given out? That's a question that needs
- 25:32to be asked, because the money aspect of this whole
- 25:34entire thing has been left to the side when I
- 25:37believe it's a big part of it, a big tool
- 25:40for law enforcement to use to leverage these people. I
- 25:43wish they would use it more often. I'm just one
- 25:48of the many authors in Brockman's agency. My departure wouldn't
- 25:51affect anything. I am also the last one to complain.
- 25:54His agency sold two of my books, and I have
- 25:57two more underway, also sold by them. Yet I am
- 26:00ready to pull the plug on my association with Brockman's
- 26:03agency and would encourage other authors to consider doing the
- 26:06same until and unless he clarifies the relationship between him,
- 26:10the Edge Foundation, and Epstein. If such an explanation is
- 26:14not forthcoming, many of us will have to decide whether
- 26:17we would like to be part of this odd intellectual
- 26:20club located on the dubious continuum between the seminar room
- 26:23and the sex trafficking ring. That's some powerful stuff, right,
- 26:27and I commend him for doing that and calling on
- 26:30his colleagues to do the same. Nobody should be working
- 26:32with this Brockman guy until he clarifies what's going on,
- 26:35right sorry, buddy, Time to split excessive networking, it appears,
- 26:41devours its own. Brockman is already many months too late
- 26:44to what he should have done much earlier. Close down
- 26:47the Edge Foundation, publicly, repent, retire, and turn Brockman Incorporated
- 26:52into yet another bat banal literary agency, the kind where
- 26:57authors do not have to mingle with billionaires at fancy
- 27:00dinners or worry about walking in on the Prince of
- 27:03punk Asses getting his feet massaged the UN network. I
- 27:07think that's a great idea, right, I really do. I
- 27:09think that the role that Brockman played in this can't
- 27:14be understated. I think that it deserves more scrutiny, and
- 27:17I think the Edge Foundation in general should be put
- 27:20on blast. So we're going to talk a little bit
- 27:23about the Edge Foundation in the coming days. We'll talk
- 27:26a little bit more about that, add some context to
- 27:28just exactly what it is, what they were up to,
- 27:31what sort of conferences they were doing, who was involved,
- 27:33et cetera, et cetera. So, folks, look like I said,
- 27:36the rabbit hole is deep. This rabbit hole is so deep.
- 27:39Every time we take a dive into the hole, we
- 27:42find more chambers and more Warrens. So we just have
- 27:45to keep pulling on these threads. We have to keep going,
- 27:47pulling on these threads and calling out all of these
- 27:51enablers whenever possible, because they played a big role in
- 27:55this right. Without this man, John Brockman, Epstein would have
- 27:58had a harder time getting into the world of academia.
- 28:01He would have had a harder time getting his fingers
- 28:03deep into this world. But yet Brockman acted as that pivot,
- 28:07He acted as the conduit, and Epstein in turn, was
- 28:11accepted by some of the finest minds in the world
- 28:13who we've realized, while they might be very smart, individuals,
- 28:17were disgusting scoundrels, just like Jeffrey Epstein. If you like
- 28:22to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci
- 28:25at ProtonMail dot com. That's bobbycap you Cci at ProtonMail
- 28:30dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at
- 28:34Bobby underscore cap you Cci. Happy new what's up everyone,
- 28:41and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this look
- 28:46back episode, we're gonna go back to twenty nineteen once again,
- 28:50and we're going to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and his
- 28:53attendance at the Billionaire's Dinner. This article was authored by
- 29:00Julia Laroche and it was published by Yahoo Finance. The
- 29:07arrest of New York financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has resulted
- 29:12in many people trying to distance themselves from the registered
- 29:16sex offender, including scrubbing records of him attending high profile events.
- 29:22And how pathetic is that now? They tried to do
- 29:24the scrub job, but it didn't work out so well.
- 29:27And you have yourselves here, the Edge group, John Brockman's group,
- 29:32and they host this thing called the Billionaire's Dinner where
- 29:35all of the so called elite get together, rub elbows
- 29:39and you know, set the future of the whole entire
- 29:44earth in motion. Epstein, sixty six, was arrested earlier this
- 29:50month at Teterborough Airport on charges at between two thousand
- 29:54and two and two thousand and five, Epstein exploited and
- 29:58abused dozens of underage girls, some as young as fourteen.
- 30:04And that didn't matter to any of these guys. They
- 30:06didn't care. Epstein a welcome site as long as he's
- 30:10coming with his purse open, as long as he's coming
- 30:13with a few coins jingling in his pocket. In the
- 30:17early two thousands, and as recently as twenty eleven, Epstein,
- 30:21whose billionaire status is now under question, would hobnob with
- 30:25a who's who of academia, literature, and Silicon Valley at
- 30:30literary agent John Brockman's gathering, dubbed the Billionaire's Dinner, an
- 30:35annual event held during the TED Conference in Monterey, California.
- 30:39You know, a meeting of all of the supposed smartest
- 30:42people in the world. They're gonna we're talking at the
- 30:45TED Talk. Give me a break, man, I don't want
- 30:47to be invited to any of that shit. So I
- 30:49don't even care. All of these people that pala around
- 30:52with each other, all of these journalists out here that
- 30:56think like the pinnacle of life is being invited to
- 31:00these parties. You just don't get it, do you. Your
- 31:04job as a journalist is to hold people in power
- 31:08to account and to keep the populace informed. Nothing more,
- 31:12nothing less. We don't care about who you're working for politically.
- 31:16Quit carrying water. That shit is old, it's tired, and frankly,
- 31:21people are sick of it. In a now deleted post
- 31:28on Brockmann's nonprofit, The Edge Group's website, the Billionaire's dinner
- 31:32it described as is described as one of Epstein's favorite events.
- 31:37He added that Epstein enjoys hanging, hanging with and stimulating provocative,
- 31:42thoughtful minds who have achieved a high degree of success
- 31:46in finance, company, high tech, and scientific research. So basically,
- 31:52you have a sexual predator who's invited to all of
- 31:55these dinners with all of these so called elite, the
- 31:58richest amongst us, the smartest amongst us. Allegedly you know,
- 32:02the who's who of Silicone Valley and the upper crust
- 32:07of New York. Those are the kind of parties Epstein
- 32:10was hanging out at. And all of those people will
- 32:13have you think and believe that they know nothing of
- 32:16the behavior Epstein was engaging in. The occasion is a
- 32:21night where the large names and finance, business, philanthropy, and
- 32:26science gather together for one night. The richest people in
- 32:29the world come face to face with the most intelligent
- 32:32individuals in history. Oh that's a pretty big leap, hunh.
- 32:36So these people are smarter than Einstein or you know,
- 32:42Fermi or any of the other great scientists we've had. Huh.
- 32:45All these pedophiles and molesters, all of Jeffrey Epstein's menagerie
- 32:49of scientists are the brightest minds we have. Huh, well,
- 32:53for the brightest minds in the world. These fucking people
- 32:57are stupid, aren't they. The New York Times reported in
- 33:03two thousand and two that Epstein flew a bunch of TEDsters, oh,
- 33:06the TEDsters, to Monterey and his Boeing seven to twenty
- 33:10seven outfitted with mink and sable throws and a high
- 33:14altitude lunch catered by Las Cirque two thousand. So my
- 33:19question is this, how many trafficked girls were on the
- 33:22plane at this time, acting, as you know, a flight
- 33:25attendance and otherwise we know Chantay Davies has talked about
- 33:29this before. So all of these fucking rich people are
- 33:32hanging out with Epstein, flying around on his plane like
- 33:34they don't have their own, and for what reason? Why?
- 33:37Just because they enjoyed his company? Huh yeah? Right, I'm guessing,
- 33:41and I can't prove this obviously, but I'm guessing that
- 33:44they were all having a bite of the forbidden fruit.
- 33:49Photographed on board the plane where Brockman, Steven Pinker, Daniel C. Dennett,
- 33:54Katinka Mattson, and Richard Dawkins Richard Dawkins is the guy
- 34:00that talks about evolution and how you know there's no
- 34:05God and shit like that. Right now, as you all
- 34:07know by now, I'm agnostic when it comes to religion.
- 34:11I don't have arrogance enough to act like I know
- 34:13what's what one way or the other. But these people
- 34:17that were on this plane with Epstein and being toted
- 34:21around by Epstein, when they all have access to their
- 34:23own shit, they have some explaining to do. But again,
- 34:26none of these people have been forced to explain anything.
- 34:30They give us these garbage ass can generic excuses for
- 34:34why they were with Epstein, and then we all just
- 34:37move on to the next topic. The original caption shown
- 34:45above from a Yahoo Finance screen grab has been altered
- 34:50to exclude the association with Epstein. So when you look
- 34:54at the article, you click on the link that'll be
- 34:57in the description box, you'll be able to see all
- 34:59of this the you know how it was washed, how
- 35:03it was cut down, and how it was altered. Pinker,
- 35:07a Harvard professor of psychology an author, was on board
- 35:10that flight. He told Yahoo Finance that he has found
- 35:14himself at some of the same events as Epstein, but
- 35:16has no personal or professional relationship with him, and has
- 35:20only spoken to him three times that he can recall.
- 35:23So why were you on his plane? Bro? If you
- 35:26don't know the guy, you're just gonna hop on his
- 35:28plane and then you know, act like you don't You
- 35:31aren't friends after that. It doesn't make any sense to me.
- 35:35Maybe it's different in the world of these so called elite,
- 35:39but in the real world, you're not hopping on anyone's
- 35:41jet if you guys aren't homies. I first met Epstein
- 35:46a couple of years before that plane trip, when I
- 35:48was invited to chat with him over coffee with a
- 35:51few mutual friends who said he was really smart, intellectual,
- 35:56and scientifically curious. Pinker told Yahoo Finance, my own impressions
- 36:01were different. Oh yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure that you
- 36:03were just so anti Epstein that you got on his
- 36:07plane and went on this trip a few years later.
- 36:09Please shut up, Okay, all of these people with their
- 36:12dumbass excuses. I don't want to hear him anymore. Pinker
- 36:17went on to describe Epstein as a kabitzer whatever that is.
- 36:21He liked to hang out with and shoot the breeze
- 36:23with smart and famous people, but he was intellectually lazy
- 36:27and immature, abruptly changing the subject dismissing people's observations with wisecracks,
- 36:33considering his own intuition to be as valid as data
- 36:36from experts. Pinker added funny, though, that him and all
- 36:40of his people were willing to take money from Epstein
- 36:42even though he was a cobitzer. Though right another passenger
- 36:45on that trip, the philosopher and author Daniel C. Dennett,
- 36:49described the flight as uneventful and that Epstein pretty much
- 36:53stayed to himself. Two photos completely removed. Look, Epstein didn't
- 36:57stay to himself, stop it. He was all over that
- 36:59plan and talking to people, you know, doing his thing.
- 37:02We all know how Epstein conducted himself, what he was
- 37:05up to, and how he conducted himself amongst people like
- 37:08these scientists. While Epstein, while the Epstein mentioned in the
- 37:13Plaine photo caption was altered, two photos from the event
- 37:17are no longer featured on the Edge's website. At the
- 37:20two thousand and two dinner, where guests like Dean Camick, Cayman,
- 37:24Linda Stone, Richard Saul Werman, Steve Petrannick, Jeff Bezos, John Markoff,
- 37:30Kara Swisher, Nathan Mirevald Christopher J. Anderson, George Dyson, George Dyson,
- 37:37w Daniel Hills hillis excuse me, Stuart Brandt, Katinka Mattson,
- 37:41Peter Schwartz, Ryan Feelin, Richard Dawkin, Louis Risetto, Daniel C. Dennett,
- 37:47David Bunnell, Stephen Levy, Charles Simoni, Sergi Brynn, and Marnie Morris.
- 37:53According to the page and Sergei Brin's pretty funny considering right,
- 37:58at least one guest in articular stood out as not
- 38:01having a major business or literary accomplishments. That person is
- 38:06Sarah Kellen, who appears in now deleted photographs. Of course
- 38:10she was there, she was look she was Epstein's number
- 38:13one when it came to this sort of thing. She
- 38:16had to be with him everywhere he went, and that's
- 38:19why she needs to be indicted. Kellen, who is now
- 38:23married to NASCAR driver Brian Vickers, has been accused of
- 38:27recruiting young girls, maintaining Epstein's schedule, and handling travel arrangements
- 38:31for the young girls being exploited, and she has been
- 38:35fingered as someone who took part in some of the
- 38:37abuse as well. Let's not forget that out. She's specifically
- 38:40identified in the controvers in the controversy Lenient non prosecution
- 38:46agreement as a potential co conspirator. For nearly fifteen years,
- 38:51Epstein's foundations have been major financial supporters of Brockman's nonprofit,
- 38:56The Edge Foundation, contributing more than half a million dollars
- 39:00in that timeframe, according to Yahoo Finances calculations. In nine
- 39:05ninety filings, Epstein's The Couq Foundation donated twenty five thousand
- 39:10dollars in two thousand and one, fifty thousand in two
- 39:13thousand and three, fifty five thousand in two thousand and four,
- 39:17and two hundred thousand in two thousand and five to
- 39:20the Edge Foundation Incorporated. Ah, you know, he no part
- 39:24of that though. He's not a big part of this.
- 39:25He was just a guy hanging out, No big deal.
- 39:28Epstein had nothing to do with the Edge Foundation. The
- 39:32investigation into Epstein began in two thousand and five by
- 39:35the Palm Beach Police Department. As the US Attorney for
- 39:38the Southern Southern District of Florida began preparing federal criminal charges,
- 39:43Epstein's attorneys began plea bargain discussions on September twenty fourth,
- 39:48two thousand and seven, Epstein signed the controversial non prosecution
- 39:52agreement with the US Attorney's Office. Imagine that, I know
- 39:57we talk about it all the time, but imagine that
- 40:01in that agreement, he pled guilty to one count of
- 40:04solicitation of prostitution and agreed that he would register as
- 40:08a sex offender. He also agreed to a thirty month sentence,
- 40:11including eighteen months of jail time and twelve months of
- 40:15community control. In exchange, the US Attorney's Office agreed to
- 40:19not pursue federal charges. Epstein was released in two thousand
- 40:26and nine from the Palm Beach County Stockade after only
- 40:29thirteen months spent in the private wing, with six days
- 40:32of work release per year per week. In twenty eleven,
- 40:36Epstein appeared again at Brockman's Billionaire Airs dinner. According to
- 40:40The New York Times, guests that the guests at the
- 40:43event included Bezos, Brynn Meervald, Elon Musk Mursa, Mayor, Zach
- 40:49Boge and Wajicky and David Brooks. A page for the
- 40:53dinner shows and again it just shows you, folks, all
- 40:56of the people Epstein was associating with How many of
- 40:59these people have come out and said, well, we know
- 41:01this about Epstein. He was with us here, this is
- 41:03what happened. Blah blah blah. None of them right exactly.
- 41:10Epstein attended the Billionaire's Dinner in nineteen ninety nine and
- 41:13in two thousand, but those pages appeared to have also
- 41:17been removed. He also attended in two thousand and four
- 41:21at a downsized or more exclusive Edge dinner. And remember
- 41:26he was invited to this after he was already a
- 41:28convicted sex offender. What more do you need. Attendees at
- 41:32the nineteen ninety nine dinner included Richard Saul Werman, Nathan Miervold,
- 41:39Linda Stone, Steve Case, Marnie Morris, John McCree, Joichi Ito,
- 41:44Katinka Matson, Jeffrey Epstein, Doug Rowan Lee, Leon m Liederman,
- 41:49Kevin Kelly, Jean Jean Case, Patty Mays, David Bonnell, Jeff Bezos,
- 41:55Daniel Hillis K Krows, according to a cashed version of
- 41:59the page. Another cash page for the two thousand event
- 42:03shows that the guests included Marnie Morris, Patty Mays, Charles Samanyi,
- 42:10car Swisher, Kara Swisher, George Dyson, Linda Stone, David Braunschwig,
- 42:15Katinka Mattson, w Daniel Hillis, Dean Cammon, Stuart Brand, Kip Parent,
- 42:21Nathan Mirval, Jeffrey Epstein, Brewster Call Brockman, the founder of
- 42:26the Edge Foundation, did not respond to multiple requests for comment.
- 42:30So again it just shows you all of these people
- 42:33that were involved. Epstein was a fixture amongst the so
- 42:38called elite, and all of a sudden, these very same
- 42:41so called elite all have collective amnesia. Guess what, I'm
- 42:47not buying it. If you'd like to contact me, you
- 42:50can do that at Bobby Capucci at proton meil dot com.
- 42:53That's b O B b y c A p U
- 42:56c c I at protonmeil dot com, and also find
- 43:00me on Twitter at b O B B y underscore
- 43:04c A p U c c I. The link that
- 43:07we discussed can be found in the description box.