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Fraud Friday: The Long Island Long Con w/ Jon Gabrus · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's popin Congregation is your girl? Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes.
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  Speaker 2: From behind the paywall.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always,
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  Speaker 1: stay scheming.
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  Speaker 2: Scaled, cod.
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  Speaker 1: Rob and run, Scam come Rob and frolldam Goddess. What
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  Speaker 1: is up Congregation is sugar Scam Goddess back with another
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  Speaker 1: installment of the podcast Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I named it after me. My name is Lazy.
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  Speaker 1: Moseley, and I'm so fucking excited for our guests today.
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  Speaker 1: You've heard him all over, You've seen him Okay, he
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  Speaker 1: has ninety million podcasts, John Gabras, how many podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have currently running? I guess now. I technically
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  Speaker 3: have three currently running. Yes, because raised by TV Action Boys,
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  Speaker 3: High and Mighty, and then now the Gena Lombardo Show
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  Speaker 3: is currently running.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Gina Lombardo Show. I'm doing great things.
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  Speaker 3: People are going ape shit and I came out today,
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  Speaker 3: so who knows?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm sure they are. I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I have severe outfit envy. I just want you to
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  Speaker 3: know thank you. That's like extremely my ship.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big compliment because you dress so well well.
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  Speaker 3: I dressed like shit today because I was inspired, knowing
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna have to take an IG shot. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm in my gym clothes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh hey, wait a minute, was that Shartruse? They are
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  Speaker 1: those Shartruth's compression shorts.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit, it's one piece. You did Chubbies summer. It's Chubby's.
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  Speaker 3: It's one piece. The underwear is built in. No, they
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  Speaker 3: never me model Ubbi's. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: What the fuck, Jimmy, that's the scam of the century,
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  Speaker 3: is me becoming a plus sized model.
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  Speaker 1: You killed it on there though they had this like
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  Speaker 1: ad campaign and like so many people voted for you.
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  Speaker 1: They were just doing that as advertisement. That was a
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  Speaker 1: fucking game.
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  Speaker 3: That's what bullshit because I knew it was bullshit. When
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  Speaker 3: the ten finalists were selected by the people running the
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  Speaker 3: competition and votes were only ten percent of the value,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, motherfucker, that is such a cop out. That's
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  Speaker 3: so I mean, ideally, it's so that they could hopefully
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  Speaker 3: pick people of all different types rather than just the
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  Speaker 3: ten get lost. But come on, now, I had.
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  Speaker 1: The most popular one, the most votes, and that means
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  Speaker 1: that you should have won something. That's bullshit because it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're higher, We're going to do this based on votes,
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  Speaker 1: but they only count for one of our.
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  Speaker 3: Time, you know, and so it's like you got a hustle.
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  Speaker 3: And then I'm like the rest of it is just
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  Speaker 3: like vague. Whatever you want, Okay, I assume I like
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  Speaker 3: to pretend it's because my Instagram is probably not you know,
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  Speaker 3: marketing worthy what like, like, it's just it's not it's
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  Speaker 3: R rated. It's a hard R mind.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know I say the N word with the hard R.
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  Speaker 2: We're leaving that in. We're leaving in it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, at this point in the podcast, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: told anyone that I was black.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, none of your listeners.
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  Speaker 2: No, I reveal it. I reveal it every episode.
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  Speaker 1: If you hear me say nigga, I am black and
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  Speaker 1: one of the blackest.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know what seem here? If I
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  Speaker 3: say the word, if I say the unword, it's because
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  Speaker 3: I'm black, right, got it? Moving on?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, John gabis A black man.
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  Speaker 3: Don't worry. I will not say the N word. I
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  Speaker 3: stopped doing that a while ago, like eighteen months.
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  Speaker 2: Eight months ago, that's two recent.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I stopped. I said it along with music for
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  Speaker 3: way too long.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I even were you at least in your own home.
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  Speaker 3: In my own home or car. Yeah, I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to window.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, listen, I just want to say, white people out there,
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  Speaker 1: we know y'all saying the N word in your home, and.
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  Speaker 2: We know, we know, we know you're in your car.
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  Speaker 3: I doubt most of them that are saying in their
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  Speaker 3: home are wrapping along to Juicy Jack.
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  Speaker 2: In your car, You're just like.
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  Speaker 1: And then you look around and you're like, who that
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  Speaker 1: felt good? I know you got to get it off
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  Speaker 1: your chest. Just don't fucking make videos of it. Don't
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  Speaker 1: fucking say.
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  Speaker 3: It to me, don't do in the makeup chair at
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  Speaker 3: your job.
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  Speaker 1: I don't pay your fucking rent. I do not pay
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  Speaker 1: your car note. Okay, I'm not giving you permission. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying don't go out there and say listen, told
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  Speaker 1: y'all to say nigga in your cars, because I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: If I look over and I'm driving and you just
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  Speaker 1: niggering away like you might get side swiped.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't tell you to do that, but I am
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  Speaker 2: saying I know you do it.
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  Speaker 3: Saying it as an I word is very fun. If
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  Speaker 3: I see you hittering in your car, see I can
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  Speaker 3: radio edit myself.
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  Speaker 1: Yes exactly. I don't know why so many people act
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  Speaker 1: like it's so difficult.
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, I will give y'all nigga.
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  Speaker 1: I will give white people nigga if I can have rights,
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  Speaker 1: full rights in society.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's not worked it well, you can keep
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  Speaker 3: the work. Never mind, never mind, I forget to you.
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  Speaker 3: Never mind. I wanted to be able to say it,
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  Speaker 3: but not for like equal rights. That shit is going
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  Speaker 3: to be a problem in the long run.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, no off to you right now, White people,
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  Speaker 1: you can have figure, you can say the hard art,
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  Speaker 1: just give me right. Stop your police from killing us
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  Speaker 1: like and that's a joke, but it's also very fucking really.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to do that, so stop trying to
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  Speaker 2: say leave us alone.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Zigna, the second I had you had
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  Speaker 3: me on the podcast would be the longest discussion of
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  Speaker 3: the N word.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I love I love a problematic pod. Listen, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: these are jokes.
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  Speaker 2: People.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes people be in my reviews like giving me all
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  Speaker 1: this hardcore journalistic advice. I am not a journalist. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I have to say this so many times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a scam.
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  Speaker 3: I have to keep constantly remind podcasts listeners that I'm
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  Speaker 3: an idiot and I'm doing comedy like relax, RelA.
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  Speaker 2: Like, why y'all laugh so much? Why are so many jokes?
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  Speaker 3: They're like the lead singer of Russia is actually I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: shut the fuck up. I was talking extamporaneously for two
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  Speaker 3: and a half hours.
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  Speaker 2: You think I got right? I got a computer up
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  Speaker 2: here right now. Like, I'm not here to educate you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I am. I am here to educate you
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  Speaker 1: on scams.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm that.
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  Speaker 3: And I love that your podcast is about scam. That's
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  Speaker 3: such a fucking exciting topic.
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  Speaker 1: It's so fun. It's been such a good ass time.
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  Speaker 1: I've learned some scams. I've inspired people to do scams.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's not it's not necessarily a negative portrayal of scams.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, we worship scammers here. We we Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I support them fully. You know what, I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: offered to advertise some scams on the show.
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  Speaker 3: If people, hell yeah, let's get some MLMs advertising on
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  Speaker 3: this show.
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  Speaker 1: No, all of our ads are real guys. Our ads
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  Speaker 1: are not scams. That's the only thing about this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a scam. I feel the need to say that.
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  Speaker 3: Please use my products and my promo code.
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  Speaker 1: My promo code is scam a lot, though, which I
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  Speaker 1: love that ads are down for that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that they're down for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, just putting in the promo code scam and we
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  Speaker 3: show up at your house and take your mattress out
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  Speaker 3: of your living room or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It's a reverse castper situation. We take your mattress from you.
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  Speaker 3: Scams. You got to buy it back.
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  Speaker 2: So speaking of talking about scams.
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  Speaker 3: We're well solid transition. Speaking of talking about scams, if
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  Speaker 3: only there is a short journalist that I am, I'm
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  Speaker 3: well aware Jacob Bear.
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  Speaker 2: Roast in my ass.
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  Speaker 1: So we like to start off every episode with like
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  Speaker 1: what's hot and fraud, and sometimes that'll just be me
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  Speaker 1: warning you about what's going on, new SCRAMs, new ways
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  Speaker 1: to watch out for your credit card, A lot of
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  Speaker 1: it involving gas stations. Gas stations are where a lot
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  Speaker 1: of scams are born and Brooklyn. Brooklyn is the Silicon
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  Speaker 1: Valley of scams I've saw before.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that I lived there for seven years.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of black turtlenecks, everyone's wearing like chains and very
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  Speaker 1: loud Migos blouses.
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  Speaker 2: But it's the same. Do so.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, guys, if you have a scam that you've retired,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a scam run on you that you
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  Speaker 1: want to share, you can always email us at scam
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  Speaker 1: goottesspot at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I like that you say a scam that you're retired, like,
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  Speaker 3: because these scam artists are like, I'm not blowing my show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I want to fuck up the bag, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to get your money and then once
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  Speaker 1: you've tired, you share with me. Now, this scam comes
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  Speaker 1: from a gentleman. I'm not going to say his name.
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  Speaker 1: He gives me these specifics so I will read them,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say where you're from either.
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  Speaker 1: So he says, I'm a game mortician in Blank City.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why he had to tell me he
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  Speaker 1: was a game mortician.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, just say mortician. We know you're all
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  Speaker 3: gays like the stereotype. No one knows right.
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  Speaker 1: So he's a game mortician who has access to electronic
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  Speaker 1: database for death certificate registry and the ability to create them.
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  Speaker 2: He went with his man.
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  Speaker 1: He went with his man honey to Vegas one year
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  Speaker 1: for a getaway while also taking twenty five online class
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  Speaker 1: units in a college to finish his undergrad So, he said,
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  Speaker 1: he ends up getting drunk so hard in Vegas that
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  Speaker 1: he forgot about his midterm that was due the same weekend.
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  Speaker 1: He says, when I woke up, right, he says, when
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  Speaker 1: I woke up on Monday, after I got home from
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  Speaker 1: that latest hell Sunday, I realized the grave error I made.
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  Speaker 2: Is that supposed to be a pun? Sir? Suddenly the
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  Speaker 2: ability to scam came alive in me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh shit, that's how it happens.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. If it just comes alive and you're.
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  Speaker 3: Born with the scammability. It is the chosen one, the
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  Speaker 3: game audition op scams are alive inside of you, My son,
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  Speaker 3: release them upon the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he pulled the sword out of the stone, He
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  Speaker 1: pulled the body out of the drawer.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what is this?
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  Speaker 1: So he says, I email my teacher that I did
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  Speaker 1: not get rest all weekend due to my neighbor's child
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  Speaker 1: passing away by peanut allergy damn gesus. She said that
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  Speaker 1: he basically had been helping every waking moment that weekend
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  Speaker 1: and could not do his midterm. He said that he
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  Speaker 1: was sorry, and that the professor asked him to send
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  Speaker 1: a copy of the death certificate and program and he
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  Speaker 1: would count his final for both terms and last testing.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, if you send me a death certificate proving
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  Speaker 1: that this really happened, I will just count your final
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  Speaker 1: twice and you don't have to take the mess.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy that teachers have to get to that level
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  Speaker 3: because people do do the scam. I know.
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  Speaker 1: It also is like, come on now, just let me
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  Speaker 1: say somebody died and let's move on from this.
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  Speaker 2: We both know I'm lying. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I got to get on here and photoshop. You know
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  Speaker 1: how many time I killed off my auntie?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have some My mom has had to come
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  Speaker 3: through and be like, okay, look someone did die, like
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  Speaker 3: my mom. Mom died so much. My mom is definitely
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: lied about Grandma's dying before. You don't believe me, that's
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  Speaker 3: my mom. Mom. I need a really weird favor. If
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  Speaker 3: a teacher calls us, just say your mom died recently,
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: not ten years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, bring up your I know this is traumatic for you,
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  Speaker 1: probably still, but I'm gonna need this.
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  Speaker 3: For you, and I know you probably don't want to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, resurface it all on. Behalf of your slacker son.
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  Speaker 3: But let's get to work.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to work.
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  Speaker 3: So choosing a child death is intense too, because then
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  Speaker 3: you put like some real stress and sadness on the
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  Speaker 3: person listening. Sadness like a grandma and grandpa dying. You
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  Speaker 3: can like wrap your head around.
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  Speaker 1: So and normally, you know, I don't like to read
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  Speaker 1: sad shit, that's not what we do on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But he said that he had to use the child
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  Speaker 1: because and this is where the fucked up part comes in.
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  Speaker 1: He says, So, I had a boy who died with
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  Speaker 1: a peanut allergy two weeks ago at the funeral home,
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  Speaker 1: and I had access to all the printed materials we
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  Speaker 1: use for service and death certificate. I printed the death certificate,
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: blacked out the parents information and social security numbers so
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  Speaker 1: he could not be found. I also went into our
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  Speaker 1: online database at the funeral home and changed the dates
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  Speaker 1: of the service to correlate with the day coming.
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  Speaker 3: This is this is a scam that isn't for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of access to this scam.
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  Speaker 1: I'm photoshopped in oh bit, Okay, those are made in word.
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  Speaker 1: My family is so black. They love putting somebody like
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: in some clouds or some shit. So you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: very basic editing.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: You know, we got plenty of photos of women in
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  Speaker 3: cloud photos.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: You know, he said, going sunrise sunset, that's the that's
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of every black program. So you just gotta
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: change that sunset baby, that sunset baby. So he printed
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  Speaker 1: all of this out and then the icing on the
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: cake is he used Adobe photoshop to crop some pictures
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: of himself into a barbecue that he was heaven at
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  Speaker 1: his house.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus, he went for it. Probably unnecessary, but now he's
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: just getting cocky.
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  Speaker 1: I like, you don't need to also submit proof of
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  Speaker 1: you being at a fake barbecue.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's holding up a newspaper and shit like it's
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: today's date.
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  Speaker 1: I promise, Like you went on Facebook found this liofit
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  Speaker 1: boy family barbecue and it is yourself. Did you have
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: to go take pictures outside to match the life, like
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: you went outside took a picture with a with a
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: damn Pats blue ribbon in your hand.
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, He's like, hey, Brian, we need a we
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  Speaker 3: need a children's corpse asap. I gotta post this photo
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  Speaker 3: of me giving a thumbs up next to it to
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  Speaker 3: prove to my teacher, my teacher, my online course.
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  Speaker 2: Also, this is an online court. You don't even know
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  Speaker 2: what you think.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't even know what you look like. Why do
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: you have to photo shot yourself in If it's online,
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  Speaker 3: you can use any photo you want. That's me Conan
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  Speaker 3: the barbarian standing there at a children's funeral.
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  Speaker 1: And it's online course, Like, it's online school. Even reputable
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  Speaker 1: online school is a scale.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably a healthy but college in general is a scam.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe online is like the easiest way to be scamed.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably a little cheaper than gando a liberal arts.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when Shaq used to be selling Phoenix University.
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  Speaker 3: Shaq is my Shack is one of the richest people
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: I know who has no qualms about visibly slumming in
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  Speaker 3: front of everybody at all. He's like, all right, yeah,
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: so next up, these are my brand French fries. You
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: can bake them. It's like shock, how much money? How
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: much money is Shack making for the general because they
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  Speaker 3: don't have the fucking budget of the ads themselves is awful?
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  Speaker 2: Right, you got check.
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  Speaker 3: They probably blew all the money on Shock.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so then they're doing a handheld recorder from the nineties.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, even like his Icy Hot ad is just like
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  Speaker 3: him on a black screen, like him with like nothing
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  Speaker 3: in the background, just like I use Icy Hot, you know,
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: I love Icy Hut. It's icy.
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  Speaker 2: And they didn't even spend money on somebody writing copies
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: just riff.
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  Speaker 3: He's a master improviser. If you've ever watched NBA on TNT,
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  Speaker 3: it should be fine. It's true. He is a solid,
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: solid out of the pock. He's good.
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  Speaker 2: So so Shaq.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go to your online college.
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  Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying, right, it's Shack.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to make your own online college outside
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  Speaker 1: of Phoenix University, I will attend it.
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  Speaker 3: I've got twelve degrees. That would be such a great
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: fuck dude. I want to do an online scam, so,
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: uh school scam. So I have like twenty four majors.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be like I also have a master's. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like just keep listing all the shit I have.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Honestly, don't get a degree anymore. Just say you got it,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's so many ways, there's
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: so much photoshop.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: You don't have to actually go out and get a degree, right, Yeah,
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: I know. I can't believe like it was fifteen years
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: ago or whatever where I had to write my GPA
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: on a resume.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Everything's on Google bro. So he says, I ended up
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: getting an A in that class. Love the show scammer mortician.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, that's awesome, And I hope he gets
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: plenty more business that he can. He can exploit the
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: deaths of children more for his benefit.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Oh damn.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I have killed off an auntie. I
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: have not gone in change the database on a website
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: and photoshops myself into photos with her.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Oh me, it's a little scary for me to do
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: stuff like that because I know there's no correlation. But
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: God forbid something happens shortly after me lying about that,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I'll feel I'll feel that shit in my bones. Like
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: if you're like, make up a lie about your aunt
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: and then she passes away, I'd be.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Like, no, you thought that was my fault who were
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: already dead.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: That's the move right right right that way, If they
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: come back to life, then it's good.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: You can't feel people who are alive, that's just too risky.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not worth it. Your online fucking communications
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: professor might run into a child who's still alive and
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: be like, I thought you died from a peaant allergy.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Right yeah, Also the fuck like you were online teacher,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Like why are you asking for so much?
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Like you know people are lying.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Just be like, okay, we'll make your final account as double, Like,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: don't make me produce all this information.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Let me go to King KOs.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Just be like, if you want to take a B minus,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I'll give it to you right now. That's the shit
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: I want. I want to be like, look, I don't
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: have the time to do it, blah blah blah. Teach
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: just goes, I don't give a shit either. I'll give
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: you eighty four right now. I'm like, I'll take it.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: And what are we really doing here? Like you know
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Like I have to show you that I learned the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: things that you taught me. Like let's just skip that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Let's just be real. We're just trying to get to
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: the point where I have a degree so I can
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: get some shitty job, you know, I just need to
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: demonstrate that I did college.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Cut to the fucking chase.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I was so glad I had a professor like that
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: in college because I have a business degree and I
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: hated finance. And there was like a corporate finance class
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: that I had to take and I wait until my
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: last semester to take it, which was fucking stupid. I
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: was on scholarship, and so like what I would do,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and a lot of my business classes is I would
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: like show up tops hours looking real rough, like I,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't comb my hair like I wear, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: some rags, some eighteenth century rat.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: This is hard. This is hard for me to even picture.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I would do it, and I'd come in I'd be like,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: oh my god, this class is so hard, Like can
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you help me with these problems?
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Can you give me what's the answer to the homework?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Like I'll just do.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: This, I mean, looking sad on purpose, yes, freaking beat up.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And they would give me answers and they would like
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: this worked for me all the time. And I had
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: one professor who his class was so fucking hard, that.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: When I graduated, I was walking across the stage and
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I leaned over to him and I was like, is
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: this coming into mail?
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Diploma? I was like, am I gonna get the shit
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: in the mail?
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Or am I opening it? Am I open it up?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Just a big letter that says sorry inside this thing?
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: He was like, Yeah, why did they even print a
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: diploma that just says sorry, that's brutal.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Fucking dicks the University of Pittsburgh. Sorry, that's rude of shit.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, is it gonna come in to mail?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, yes coming. I was like, okay,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I used to pretend to be like underprivileged U because
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: every time I told somebody was at school on scholarship,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, for athletics. I was like, no, bitch, academics.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking smart, but I'm black. So they'd be like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: so you run fast, that's.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: That's better than just saying like your family's poor.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: That was the next assumption, which was funny because my
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: family was not poor. I only went to school out
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of state because I wanted. I wanted to leave state,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, okay, I'll get a scholarship.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I know I was gonna be an actor and I was
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: gonna make money for a while, so I went into that.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But my parents could have paid for college.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: It's really it's really funny that you went to your
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: teacher looking hurt to get where for you. I guess
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: it works on both ends. Like if you showed up
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: looking fine, you can like you showed up all dressed up,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: all gussied up, and like I'm having trouble with this question,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: you'd get the answer to see.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would, then they'd be like,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you're not trying, You're not dying, right.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: You have to act like you were hustling.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta look like I had already applied myself
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: before I came, and that didn't work.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Like it's so hard for me as a student athlete. Like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: what sport You're like, shut up, all right, never mind,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: let's get at it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: What sport do you play?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's running a sport, because I'm good at that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I'm fast.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I do running. I'm very fast.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Can't you just see I'm an athlete. Let's go.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, growing up in the inner cities.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I'm wearing tights. Let's move. I got leggings on. You know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I'm an athlete.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You said you're from Frisco, Texas, in the inner cities
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: of Frisco, Texas.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: You know you don't know where that is.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got one small ghetto.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I mean I only have anywhere near it, thank God, but.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Scarce God.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And it's time for my favorite segment of the show,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Historic Hoodwinks. This is where I'm gonna regale mister Gabris
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: with a.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Fantastical tale of fraud. We're gonna get his opinions on it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So you're from Long Island.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: That's correct? Have I ever mentioned that on a podcast before?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I think Long Island is becoming a brandom.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. Hey, I'm leaning it. I'm like five
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: days away from becoming like a Long Island version of
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Larry the Cable Guy.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And I want it. Everybody wants it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I need it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Actually, people are looking right now for that that Voice
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of America final.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. People are like, you know what, let's get some
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: white people and I got I'm gonna stand out by
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: being from Long Island.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: It's gonna work.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: It's gonna work for me.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So this is a historic hooding about a man named
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Harold Adamo.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, he's a rare coin.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Dealer who has been accused of three hundred and thirty
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars in coin consignment and sales fraud in which
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: he bilked.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I love the word bilked.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Oh built sounds so good it just.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Rolls off the tongue.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: He built several coin dealers and private collectors out of money, gold,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and collectible coins under the guise of legitimate coin deals.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So he allegedly took advantage of long term business relationships
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and stole collectibles and cash. Now what's crazy is is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like some of these relationships span over twenty years and.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: He just like lightly scammed them every once in a while.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Or is he bilking them NonStop? I think by the way,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: bilking someone nonstops. I felt uncomfortable saying that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah sounds sexual.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Fuck, I haven't been built since I was in college.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: That's where they pour milk in your butt, right Yeah okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: yeah that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Works and then the bee but milk built. Yeah, you
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for explaining myself.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: So at age fifteen, Rococo Marini love that name.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Oh that's not an alias, that's not a fake, it's
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: real ro Coco.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: You would think I make the names up on this
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: show because they're always so fucking insane. But scammers love
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a love a crazy name. So Rococo Marini began built
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: buying and selling a regular sweaters at flea markets. By
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: his early twenties, the enterprising Marini had a mass millions
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: from his growing textile business. Several years later, Rococo Marini,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at fifty four years of age, and his wife Josephine
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: at fifty, became close friends with Harold Adamo, one of
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: their neighbors. The two men and their wives socialized regularly
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and became godparents to each other's children. Yeah, now you're
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: socialized regularly. That sounds like, fuck it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: That's some. That's some small town.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Fucking small town fucking I love it, fifties fucking I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: love it the best guy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Guy. If I'm gonna watch anyone, fuck, it's gonna be
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: four fifty year old people.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm not you, hey, listen, I'm not sec shaming you.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Get out here. I want I want to till I die.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, that could be a raise. I want to smoke.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I want to not until I die, and I want
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: to die in five days.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: No, I want to be ninety five.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: It's like, uh, Matthew McConaughey's dad died fucking his mom.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Isn't that like a fucking beauty? Is that amazing?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: That's like the notebook.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I guess I've never I don't remember the notebook that well.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: But and she finishes. Still hold on, riga mortis has
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: set in. Give me another minute.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Oh lord, oh god, what a dark.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Well, what a dark thing. Let's get back to this
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: guy stealing from an elderly married couple.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: So what I love about this is like, yeah, they
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: have to be fucking. My mom used to try to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: hang out with our neighbors. They would have Bunco nights,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: which is where I guess they would play the dice
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: game Bunko, which is just like, I don't know, white people,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a rich white people game where you I don't know, Oh.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm a poor white person. Have that game.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: We had poker and dice. I grew up playing dice.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: With my dice.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: You were sometimes just stabbed someone sometimes, don't.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Wow, this is a very weird. This might be weird
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: for listeners to hear a white guy telling a black
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: girl I grew up playing dice. I don't know what
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: game that is? I grew up shooting dice in the alley.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Hey, look, we all Monola, But I do keep my
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: secret lifestyle of having a privileged life to myself. Hey smart,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it's medium privilege. We were just like medium upper uppermo class.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Not crazy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like just like Fountain in the Yard, not.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Like Tyler Perry. Uh greed, okay, not Greenlee for it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Oh you're not building your millions on the back of
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: non union actors. Tyler Perry great.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Scam He is a great scammer, listen.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: But he also it's making art for people to watch.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: So can we call it art? Is something? This is
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: something is recorded?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Madea is my Tony Spanna.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yo, Tyler Perry killed me because I think he made
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Acrimony in a week. And I talk about this with
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: people because please watch the movie Acrimony.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It's so fucking bad that it's good.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: A few like I think he has like a one
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: in four that come out that you're like, oh, this
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: is an actual movie, and then like three out of
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: four are like, this is an insurance scam where you
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: had access to a baseball field and you shot a
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: movie here and the green screen.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I've never seen someone shoot a walking and talking scene,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: like a walk and talk on a green screen that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: does mills, green tree doesn't move, and here they are
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just a walk in.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's a boat.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: In the back of the boat hasn't moved at all. Truly,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you love to see it. The audacity of that movie
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to be in theaters. I love it. I live for
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: so these swingers. Uh Rocca so Rococo. Marini thought he
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: had a foolproof way to boost his assets investing in
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: a pals coin business. This is obviously Harold So. In
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: two thousand and two, approximately ten years after they became friends,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the Adamos surprised the Marinis by unexpectedly joining them during
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a Caribbean vacation.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Unexpectedly okay, yeah, all on the carnival cruise. Was like, yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I had a friend back in the day who's like, oh,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: these are my friends had going a cruise with. I'm like, oh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: are they a couple? He's like yeah, And I'm like,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: just the three of you going a cruise. You're like, yeah,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: but we're just all friends. I was like, you'll have
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to lie to me, say.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: That you're fucking these people and that they're taking you on.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: This cruise for free exactly.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Also in the same state room, I.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Get to wear the Mickey Mouse ears.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I get to keep all the towel animals after we
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: fuck got them, So they go on this unexpected grip
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: in vacation. During the vacation, Marini and Adamo began discussing
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: coin transaction. Marini expressed interest in investing in these coins, okay,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So Adamo proposed that Marini invests some of his wealth
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and rare coins that he would select for him. So
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to reassure Marini, Adamo made certain representations, including that Adamo
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: would be investing in the same coins as Marini. So
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: basically we're going to go in on the same coin,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: so I have as much to lose as you do.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: The coins liquid and Marini could sell them on twenty
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: four to forty eight hours notice, okay, and Adamo would
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: only charge a small commission on each coin that he
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: sold to Marini over time. Adamo also provided Marini with
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: written statements purporting to show the market value of the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: coins that Marini had purchased.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Never invest in something that you don't fully understand, right, Like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: isn't that like a go to like if you're like
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy land, it's like I don't know shit
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: about land, let me look into it. I don't know
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: shit about collectible coins.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And also, don't get educated by the person who's gonna
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: make money off of you, because then I'm going to
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: fucking tell you whatever I want.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Also, yeah, don't you just have like a stock the
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: stocks or something I don't even know? Like that's how
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: broke I have been my whole life. I'm like, don't
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: you have stocks? I don't even know what that means,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: but like to choose coins and be like, no, I
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: trust you. I got don't worry about our future children.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I got this fucking rare coin in the attic and like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: fuck you mom.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Coins, Like are those really worth shit?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: This is two thousand and two, so this is before
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the housing market bubble in two thousand and eight, So
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: this is when people still had money to bl on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: dumb shit.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because they have to pay their like forty
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: eight hundred dollars a month balloon mortgage that they're trapped.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: In right now exactly.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So, unbeknownst to Marini, Adamo was defrauding him. Duh, Like if.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: So he's given him fake coins and also collecting a
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: commission on like that's such a So.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Adamo would buy coins at low prices and then sell
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: them to Marini at exorbitant markups. For example, Adamo would
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: buy a nineteen eighty eight one dollar Morgan silver bit
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: coin April two thousand and three for two hundred dollars,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and then he would sell the coin to Marini December
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three for one hundred thousand.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: What okay, So that's not just a little bit of
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: money you have that you're investing. That's a lot of
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: If you're buying one hundred thousand dollars.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: That's a big ass mark up.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: If I don't I don't know much about collectible coins,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: but it sounds like he just instantly lost nine hundred
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and he instantly lost ninety nine thousand dollars. Nine hundred
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: and ninety nine dollars a dollar coin for one hundred
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: grand seems like, Hey, I got a twenty dollar bill,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: you have sixty bucks, I'll sell it to you right now.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: That's a quick scam.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: What the fuck? Also, like, Harold, you are greedy as fuck.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: You couldn't have bought a two undred dollar coin. It
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: sloated to my man's for like twelve hundred dollars.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I know, I know it is not enough to make
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: a thousand dollars off the guy who's been fucking your
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: wife on cruises for the lidy. Y'all have been.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Fucking each other's wives on these cruises, y'all haven't built
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a rapport. You've seen each other's dicks.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen your you've seen his. Ever. I'm gonna
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: be way too specific based on the fucking swinger, amateur shit,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I've been watching, right, what anohing continue?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So in another instance, Adamo's sold Marie. I keep calling
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: him Adamo and Harold, but that's the same guy, guys.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Harold sold Marini and eighteen eighty Morgan Stanley coin another
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: dollar coin for two hundred and fifty thousand in December
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: of two thousand and two, and then just one month
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: later bought back the same exact coin for himself from
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: another dealer for only thirty three thousand, five hundred dollars. Jesus,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: how much money did Marini have?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Holy shit? What a fucking cash cow. If your neighbor's like, hey,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I'm looking to spend some money, do you can you
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: help me. It's like, sure, what are you looking to
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: spend five six hundred thousand dollars? Like, oh shit, well
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I got two coins with your fucking name on it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I can help you. I can tell you how the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: business works. Don't go online.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: And also flipper over, she likes it from behind for
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: a little bit. I imagine all the business deals are happening
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: while they're drinking like big ass fucking Margarita's and fucking
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: each other while everyone's guts are slapping the game.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Oh god, Oh what an image. So Harold was told
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: in August twenty eighteen that he had a buyer for
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: eighteen ounces of gold and an eighteen thirty seven dime.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Oo. Shit, I don't know much about coins, but I
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: know that one is good.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Is that a slave dive? Oh?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: You know, we really want that one and to see
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And that's when white people are saying the N word
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: in their homes.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: He probably got that dime and was like Nega.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: In eighteen thirty seven. I think they were saying it,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: saying it wherever they wanted to.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: And that's why you wanted the coin so bad. To
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: can rub it and think of better times.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Just rub it thinking about racism is like the weirdest
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: shit ever. It's like, how racist you got to be
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: to just like like rub the wood of a plantation,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: and oh.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That's what they fucking do.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I went on a tour in Savannah, and I only
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: went on one because I realized they were all the same,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and it was like this old southern like mansion that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: obviously slaves worked in the tour. I had a little
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: bit of Asperger's that I diagnosed myself, which is fucked up.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: But she just seemed like she was on the spectrum,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and she was really slave heavy on this tour, which
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I loved.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: It's weird. It's weird that like slave history shit like
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: is not it's so prevalent, Like it's so.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Prevalent and we don't want to talk about it and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it's not that long ago. My grandfather went to a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: colored only high school, so you guys really should fuck off.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: But so she's walking through this house and she's really
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: kind of discussing real details. She's like, this is where
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the slaves slept, this is where they would take care
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: of the mistress's children, and blah blah blah. And I liked,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: you know, learning this stuff, even though it's sad, you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it's my history on this fucking tour.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I am the only black person ever, solemnly. No. That
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: was the weird part.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, where are the uncomfortable white people that
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I've grown to love in Los Angeles problematic? The white
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: people in LA are problematic, but it's like the like, Oh,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: we're gonna touch your hair and ask uncomfortable questions and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: make you aware that you're different as much as possible,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: but in a woke quote unquote way. But in the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: South it's like usually like a little more like hey,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: what's up or something. These white people on this tour,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I have not seen more people just in awe of
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: a slave house.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Like she would be like, yes, and this is where
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the slaves were beaten.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And they'd be like is that marble? Is that real
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: marble from the original house? Like they were more interested
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: in the architecture of this house than the actual history
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: It was fucking weird.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I used to do comedy gigs in Charleston all the time,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: and I would always ask people to do and people
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: are like, oh, Like white people always be like you
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: got to see the slave market. I was like, I'm sorry,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: what and I was like, it's a thing, and I
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: thought maybe it's like, oh, it's this new thing, but
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: this is where the slave market once was. And I
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, so we rode our bikes over
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: and it's like this was the slave market and it's not.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: It's like a commemorative slave market. I'm like, yo, how
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: that this is like Auschwitz having a fucking ticket ticker
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: at the door, Like.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Blackester is the only history where it's like not revered.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Is this like sad never again thing? It's like the
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: better days they're.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Like cauled off till February sweet hut hey.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Remember when white folks were really in pal.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: That's like, to me, it should we should be humiliated
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: and it's insane, like it should be a point of reverence,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Like maybe it should stay up and kids should go
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: there and have to learn the dark shit of that. Instead,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: It's just like isn't this crazy?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Like look how nice these asses?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: This is where nice white people were able to purchase
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: other people all this for a.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: One straw penny, Like what the fuck?
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: An eighteen twelve dime? Holy shit, this is gonna be
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: worth five hundred grands someday.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It should not be rabb run.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: So Harold took the items and promised to send the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: coin dealer at check. Prosecutors said. When Harold returned later
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: that month to submit the check for nearly thirty nine
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, the check bounced.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: And this guy has already got several hundred thousand dollars
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: of his friend's money and he can't even he doesn't
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: have thirty liquids.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: So he's like, is he writing from a bad account?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I like to completely make up all his backstories. So
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: let's say he's being blackmailed by a different couple he's
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: been swinging with.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he started having sex with a wife not on
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Caribbean vacation.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: They were like, this was not our rules.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he broke the rules of the open marriage.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Harold later stopped communicating with a dealer. Makes sense.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Check bounces. He's like, I'm not actually giving you this money.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So the same month, Harold bought six Canadian maple leaf
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: one announce coins with a check for more than seventy
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: three hundred dollars, Prosecutor set he returned later that month
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: about twenty two other coins. They were like cure a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: grand one ounce gold coins with another check for more
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: than twenty seven thousand dollars. Both checks bounce, bounce, bounce.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I can't. I can't do that anymore. That's
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the bad man. I forgot.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Oh right, that's a bad man.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So prosecutor said that Harold stopped communicating with the dealer. Duh,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: this is his game. He write a bad check, he'd
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: be like, change my phone.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I stopped talking to people for way less
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: shit than defrauding them of two hundred thousand dollars. I lost.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I lost friends over like trying to split a bill
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: at a fucking taco stand. So I get it for
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: this kind of like.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Harold ghosted me.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I gave So Harold met most of the dealers through
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: a so called coin symposium.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: How fucking nerdy is this?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: And I'd like to go there and just fucking alpha
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: everyone out of their money. I'll give you a fucking
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: wedgie if you don't give me a haypenny or what not?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Even which are chat rooms for coin dealers in the community.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: This is a community.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: He was also known to coin dealers and the public
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: through public coin shows and websites. Are people fucking at
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: these coin shows.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I tell you, who is a domo baby?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Anyway, let me get a picture of a Damo up.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Let's see if he's hot.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is the antique road show just like the Furry Convention?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Is everyone getting it on there?
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I think any convention when you get a bunch of
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: people who are into the same stuff, they're gonna inevitably
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: end up fuck you know what I mean. Like, it's
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of people who are into old garbage. So
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: they're all gonna get together and be like, ok. Oh,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: if you're if you're like a guy who collects coins
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: and there's a woman who collects coins and you're both single,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: you already have the icebreaker built in of course. Yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I remember, famously, when I was a kid, my dad famously,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: my dad would always tell me that all the little
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: people were fucking like crazy on the Wizard of Oz.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: He's like, think about it, Johnny, all these little people
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: get together. He didn't use that word, of course, because
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: it was the eighties when he was telling me this,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: but he's like, I'm all these people get together, you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be fun. That's the most amount little people
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: it's ever been together in one time. They're fucking. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: was like, oh yeah, I love it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: He didn't have like a documentary about this. He just
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: assumes that they're fucking. I mean, any movie set. After
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a while, this fucking happening, I've learned. I was like, wow,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: all this fucking was happening around me. I had no idea. Okay,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: so getting caught while we look at this photo. Harold
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and the Marsini's friendship was well established. They had known
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: each other for twenty five years. Can you imagine, so
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: only you've known for twenty five years stealing like three
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars from me.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: That's fucking wild.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: That's fucking upset. And he was fucking a wife, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: according to our version, I trusted you with my wife
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: my money. Oh yeah, he's got all the bags.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: So eventually Marini discovered the fraud and demanded that Harold
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: buy back his coins. When Harold refused, Marini sued him
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: for fraud, alleging damages of over eleven million dollars.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Expert testimony played a crucial role in helping Marini established
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: both liability and damages, meaning that Marini got on stand
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and just sang like a canary In order to prove fraud,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Marini needed to show, among other things, that Harold had
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: misinterpreted the value or misrepresented the value of the coins
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: that he sold to Marini and charged him an excessive markup.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: To establish these facts, Marini presented the testimony of two
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: coin experts. The two determined the true market value of
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the coins, and Marini went to auctions. Blah blah blah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: This is how it gets him. Harold challenged the reliability
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: of this valuation methodology under Daubert v.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Merrill.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Oh classic, we all learned about that in school.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a fucking lawyer.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: The gist of Adamo's argument was that reliance on auction
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: prices was inappropriate given that the subjective factors like taste
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: can affect the value of extremely rare coins.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Ooh, that's his back, ey. Look, I thought I liked it,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: so I thought it was worth more than it really was.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Harold, you are slippery.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: The court disagreed and found the experts testimony reliable. Okay,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: shout out to the court. W can you imagine being
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a juror on a coin case? How fucking boring?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I know, And you're like, oh, that's no problem. It'll
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: be done in no time. And then it's like, please
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: look at the eighteen twelve Morgan Stanley dollar coin exhibit, like, oh,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: fuck me, dude, and then I'll just be picturing the
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: two couples fucking the whole time.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: That's what gets you through.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So, while conceding that there is a subjective component to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: valuing coins, the court held that it did not render
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the expert testimony unreliable given the widely accepted valuation in
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: publications and other methods and shit. Instead, the court held
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: that the issues such as difficulty of pricing coins with
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: such limited supply were more appropriately explored on cross examination.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Aside from contesting liability, Harold sought to limit his damages
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: by arguing that Marini should have discovered the fraud earlier
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: than he did.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: That's that's really that's a great defense.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Like scammed you for twenty five years.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at some point you're not even allowed to be
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: mad at me.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: No, Honestly, I thought.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: You was in on the scam. I thought you wanted
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to be scammed. I thought that was Joe kink. That's
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: my ties, me fucking your wife and me scamming you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Keeping a lieup for twenty five years. As hard as hell.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: You can't slip one.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I know, it's been thirty seven years of telling people
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I'm straight.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, hey, your neighbors. So it's not like you
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: can even go outside and get the paper.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like, hey, did you notice Harold put in
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: a saltwater pool in the backyard. Where do you think
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: he's getting that money from it? It was two days
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: after I gave him two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Well, every time I ask him about how our coins
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: are doing on the market, he's like.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Bad, not good, bro, sorry, subjective taste.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: We're losing so much money.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: We're gonna need another cash infusion.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: But Harold, why you got a rosewors in your line?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: It'd be mad funny to invest in coins, but like
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: not special ones, just like, yeah, I got a thousand
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: dollars quarters in my house, unstealable. It's too heavy, a
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: big duble bag full of money.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Jurelie, it's beautiful. So I like his argument here. He's like,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you should have known, and I think you did, because
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: otherwise you are real dump. So, in response to one
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: of more of Marini's experts testified that at least one
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of the main auction websites was not publicly available until
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: after two thousand and eight, well after Marini had already
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: discovered the fraud.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: So basically what.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: They were saying was was like, we didn't even have
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the option to look at this shit until you've been
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: scamming this guy.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: This fraud didn't exist when you started scamming him. You
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: invented this, made this fraud up. Yeah, we now have
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: to have rules set in place thanks to you.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Like, now we have a law in your name, Adamo,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the Adamo Coin Law. Like, but you made this scam up.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: So how were we supposed to know about this scam?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Bro Coco, Be careful, buddy.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: So the couple eventually sued Adamo and forced him into bankruptcy,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: winning a twenty million dollar judgment. Okay, you won a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollar judgment. Bruh, Harold, don't got twenty mil.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Bad news, brother, it's gonna be in coins. No, no, no,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: this one's worth nineteen million, trust me, trust me it is.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: It's pretty much the whole thing. You'll be set.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Harold was fifty three when he was arrested in September
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen in charge with grand larceny and scheme to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: or fought, both felonies as well as mister minterer counts
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: of issuing bad checks. He did write a lot of
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: bad checks and then stop texting people back. His bill
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: was set for one hundred thousand dollars bonder cash. He
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: was expected in court on Friday. If convicted, he would
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: face up to seven years in prison.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That feels too long.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think so at this point, like he ruined
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: another dude's entire future. Probably if the guy invested, he's
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: not gonna get that money back.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Ooh, there is something that I have to tell you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: about this scam that actually makes me ro Coco seem
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: even stupider. Uh uh so some of this money that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: he was getting was from his kids' college funds.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: No, Rococo, who would have thought the guy who takes
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: that's this is upsetting Now now I'm bad.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because I feel like if you my dad,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and okay, I know you fucking a neighbor, good, have
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: fun with that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: You and your fifties get your fuck on. Great.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying to go to school. You telling me
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: when I pull up to university. You don't got no
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: coins for me? Like, put them hands up, father, we're
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: about to fight.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Fist fight your dad outside of pitt first more.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: As soon as I could try missions a financial late
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and they talk about I need to take out a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: long hey or no, get the fuck up, ro Coco.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Like the coin your father gave us to send you
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: to college. We turns out it's only worth eleven hundred dollars.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't pay for college in coin. Yo, that's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: fucked up, say the barnership.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Father.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: If you're Rocco's wife, better not have been like neighbor
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: cock blind. You got to step up.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And be like, hey, I think she was digmatized, digmatized,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: because at no point was she like Bay like we
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't liquidate the kids' college.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Fus, No, no, trust me a few more coins and
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: we're going to be set off in the right direction.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: But none of these coins are hitting. I was fucking.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking to Harold last night and
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: he said, none of the coins is hitting.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: You know, Harold is putting a hot tub in both
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: his bathrooms in his house. Where do you think he's
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: getting that money from?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I tried it out the Jets are good and.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Our kids going to Nassau Community College. So I hope
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: you're happy. No offense to NC.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Squared, right, Oh, I love that. I love that shortage.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: So Harold scammed seven customers out of hundreds of thousands
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of dollars from April twenty seventeen to March twenty nineteen.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: And the crazy thing is all of them were named Rococo.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: There's that many Rocco's out on the island.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: If your name is Rococo, you are mark. What are
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: we supped?
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I she got to ask my mom if she's ever
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: met someone named Rococo. Yeah, and that's possibly the Rococo.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: It has to be. Now, I want to know this.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Is recent too, that this all went down, right, this
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: is awesome.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: So the Marinis have had no luck so far in
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: collecting and obviously, yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: That's the shocker, that is the plot twist.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: They haven't gotten any money. I'm also gonna guess that
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: he's stopped returning their CoA. Now what's crazy here is
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: obviously all this stuff earlier, like the judgment came down
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen, he was scamming customers out one hundreds
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of thousand dollars April twenty seventeen through March twenty nineteen.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: So he went back to crime.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: He's got it. He's got to pay his bill.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: You know, they say crime doesn't pay this guy, but
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: this guy, he's prow and I'm wrong. So the Marines
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: used recently took drastic steps for targeting Hofstra University, Fairfield University,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and Brooklyn Law School to try to cost some of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: their money back, arguing that the total of two hundred
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: and forty six thousand dollars that Harold's kids paid intuition
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to the schools came from their father's scheme.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: So Harold put his kids through college.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: And to put your kid in Hofstra living on Long Island,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: that's a private university, that is like and if they
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: put them in a dorm, that's some money wasting shit
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: right there, because it's twenty minutes away from anywhere in
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Nassau County.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So truly, what I'm trying to understand is y'all took
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the money out of y'all's kids college fund. So y'all
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: kids had to watch your the neighbor's kids go to
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: nice colleges on your dime.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: That's so fucked up and pretty baller so.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: They claim that all this tuition was from ill gotten gains. Okay,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and the university's not going to give it back to you.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: That's not how universities were.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Brooklyn Law is like, look, we're lawyers and we're
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the cash is in the bank, dude, it's not coming
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: back out.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you I think this is, bro,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: but we will not be giving you a dime security.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I wish I could ask my college for a refund.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: We all do.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't even pay tuition. I'm like, give me some now,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I love the universe of PITTSBURGHAUS. It's too
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: much for me. I'm just you know. I start calling
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you immediately too when you graduate, talking about donate to
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the alumni association.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, bitch, no, you know, yeah, no shit, I've
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: been alumni for fifteen.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: If anybody knows how my coins are set up from
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: fucking with y'all, it's you, right.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I know. It's like, uh, what did you like to
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: donate to the school. I'm like I did when I
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: fucking went there.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you talking about? Donate for four years?
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Bro? So the Brooklyn Federal Court judge sided with Harold
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: ruling that his children had no legal application to return
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the funds to their father or to give it to
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the Marinis. Duh, I love that the Marinis are now
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: just trying to go after anyone to get their money back.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're at target.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Like, listen, we know that Harold came up in here
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and he bought a lot of bed and three flat
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: screen TVs with my money.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and here I am. Here are the street value
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: of three flat screen TVs. If you just give me
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: twenty one hundred dollars, I will walk out of here.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: This is a target.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Fine, I'll just take two fleece blankets and call it even,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: just like immediately, you have to pay for those. Give
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: me your credit card, Rococo, that's a fake name.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: He goes to jail.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So the kids could have chosen to take a trip
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: or gone on a shopping spree with Harold's money and
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been recovered then either. You can't, that's
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: not how money works. So after the ruling, Harold, the
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: former neighbor and godfather to Marini's children, oh you remember.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: He took he eliminated college from his own god children's.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Future, gloated that the bankruptcy Trusty overseeing their case lost
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: that motherfucker, Harold. You're fucking rude, like you already bilked
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: these people out of hundreds of thousand of dollars. You
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: robbed your own god children, they got photos of you
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: in the house, but you like kissing on the children
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: say yeah.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: It's it's fucked up, because then Harold would go in
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: his backyard and fuck his wife loudly on a pilot
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: of expensive coins in front of and make Rococo watch
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: very painful. Yeah, yeah, it was not comfortable.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: My wife was like, I have many bruises.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: We can fuck literally anywhere. It doesn't have to be
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: on change.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: So Joseph Marini said that she excuse me, Josephine Marini,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: The wife said that she was demoralized by the ruling.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Was that what you were de moralized by, Joseph.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: You could tell us, Josephine, if you're just mad your
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: husband is a fucking idiot. I get you. I'm with you.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: So she says, it's my belief that the bankruptcy court
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: has shown little to no desire to hold Harold accountable. Damn, sis,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to hear that. So it looks like
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Harold is still at large.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: He's not in jail. No, he's just on Long Island
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: making it here? Is he still Rococo's neighbor. That's so
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: fucked up. If you've got to see him every morning,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Think Rocco could afford to move.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Rocco's trapped, you know. He's like, hey, I
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: got your fucking mail again, man, And it looks like
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: you and your the wife are going on a vacation again.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I miss our cruises, Harold, I miss our cruise.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Give it all up to just go on one more
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: carnival cruise.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Goddamn it, Harold, you had me digmatized.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's come to the end of the road. No,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I have to let you go dry.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: But before you go, I just want to take a
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: moment to praise an honorary charlatan that we call our
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: scammer of the week. So this is Samantha Stevenson, twenty seven,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: who's charged with pretending to be a witch, fraud, and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: possession of property obtained by crime. She allegedly scammed a
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: man out of six hundred thousand dollars.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Hell.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a part for schemes Stevenson pose is
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: a psychic under the name of Vana Lopez.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: That's a AO psychic name. I got van to see
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: the future? You Van to see the future.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's like, that's some fucking usual suspect. Shit,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: she got that name off the wall behind them. What's
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: your name? Uh threedom Usa makes sense?
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Adds up to me over time. One of her victims
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: a sixty seven year old man. So remember she's twenty seven,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: he's sixty seven. Good forty years here lost more than
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars in an evil spirit blessing scam.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: She allegedly told her victim that in order to ward
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: off evil spirits in his home, he would have to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: undergo a series of steps, including selling his house, transferring
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: money to her bank account and allowing her to burn
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: six thousand dollars, and selling his car.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: So here's I don't know much about ghosts bought Samantha.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Samantha, so if he want to get rid of the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: evil spirits at his home, he had to sell his house. Okay, well,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: didn't aim the spit. He don't mean it no more.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: So he's still not working. I bet you Samantha has
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: got a fucking good plan. She's probably looking at all
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: her other twenty something friends who were gold digging, Like,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I don't even have to fuck this sixty seven year
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: old man. I got him lighting money on fire, I
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: got him selling houses.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And she just told him I was a witch. Oh
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: my god, I don't even think she's Latina.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: She did the old Leslion Cohn on us.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: You gotta get.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: It's a deep cut for la people. Oh good.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: So.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: The offense of pretending to practice richcraft under the Criminal
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Code of Canada specifically deals with individuals who fraudultly portrayed
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: themselves as having fortune telling abilities or pretending to use
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: witchcraft sorcery, enchantment, or conjuration in order to obtain money
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: or valuables from a victim.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Police.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Wait, so being a witch is the actual crime. I
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: thought it was just something.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: It is a sale, y'all. Don't burn my bitch at
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: the snake.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Sorry, Samantha, we have to throw you in
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: the river.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: What yes, put these rocks in your pocket. This is
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: too old timing, my bitch. Go Every witch is a
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: scammer or a witch. We don't know, and no one
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: can prove it.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: And it's not up to the court a lot of determined.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Definitely not up to the dark arts.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: What do you have to do in court to prove
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: your witch? I'm like, all right, give me some sage through.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: An eye of note, I'm determining that some criminals have
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: been in this room before. Yeah, man, okay, you can't
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: argue you're right.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing handcuffs.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Here's a man in a black robe with a tiny hammer.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: You can't say she's wrong.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: So, according to a press release, the police were attempting
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: to identify Stevens in four a year and November twenty seventeen,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: police began to investigate the case as an instance.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Of elder abuse.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Also like sixty seven is older, but like, I don't
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: know if I want to be called elder abuse.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well here I got bad news for you.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: When you're thirty five. If you're trying to get pregnant
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: after thirty five, it's called the geriatric pregnancy. Yeah, that'll
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: break your fucking heart. Oh my, get it in by
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: thirty four.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I'm getting here with them.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, hey, don't say that to my face. Whoo
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: all right, hope that cage free let's figure out what.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: These ain't free range no more.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: So, it's not illegal to practice witchcraft in Canada, which
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: it sounds like it is according to this pedal code,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: either as a part of a religion like Wicca or
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: as an occult practice.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: So either you can like worship, you.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Have to use your witch powers for good.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to either be fucking with Satan or
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you gotta be wicked. However, according to section six three
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: five or three six five excuse me of Canada's Criminal Code,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: it is illegally to illegal to fraudulently pretend to exercise
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: any kind of witchcraft for money. So the law has
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: generally been interpretated as like a provision against the occult,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: like doing fraud to people. The conviction can lead to
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: a two thousand dollars fine and up to six months
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: in jail.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Like, what about psychics and shit? Is that illegal in Canada?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I'm saying call me now now.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Dude, if I used to say call me now every time,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: like every day as a kid. Because that commercial was
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: on all all night long, it was playing like that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: It was a syndication.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how much did Cleo just make off the
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: commercial itself? Because I saw that shit so many times.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah. I mean the commercial itself is just
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: the entry level to the cleo scam. She must have
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: been printing, and I hope she was printing money, but
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: more likely she was the figurehead of some company that
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: was running the scam. That's the thing that breaks.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: She was like the Popeye chicken lady who's like, I
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: love Luisiana, Papa Chicken, me a negro.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I make all the chicken with my black hands. No
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: white people are involved in this cooperation. You're gonna love
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: that chicken for bas Meanwhile.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: That's a white people's company, and they got that black
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: lady out here in her wigs.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: You know, she wears wigs because she doesn't want to
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: be recognized in real life.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Oh that's smart. Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: So it's basically Samantha had this law applied to her.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: But I will say about Samantha's I do appreciate that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: she went about this in just like a more ingenuitive way,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Like fuck yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: She could scam an old man out of money the
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: old fashioned way by just dangling pussy in front of him,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: So I appreciate her going the other way and dangling
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: the devil's pussy.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Also, I want to know if the spirits went away,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: because the old man didn't say nothing about if the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: spirits went away, and if they did, Honestly, she did
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: her job.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I hope Samantha would always setting up fucking like little
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: radios at little uh mp three players playing spooky sounds
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: all night and shit. And she's like another house. You
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: have to be kidding me, Well, let's burn another few
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars and save this house. Right, Like she's applying,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: she's at night haunting him and stuff, and he's getting
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: all scared.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: She's rattling tree branches against his window.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's hiring like local kids from the haunted house
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: to keep this guy scared.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: So that's a full time job.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Well it's worth it for six hundred grand a year.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: It's not a bad gig, Samantha.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: We never see you at brunch. You work such weird hours.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Samantha, did mean you work on weekends. We have pilates
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: fallen by brunch.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Samantha, what do you mean you need my bush again?
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: So Samantha was brought to court on these charges, but
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: no convictions have been handed down yet. So Samantha shout
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: out to a.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Queen Samantha, you got this girl.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I want you to.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Get out of jail and I want you to continue
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: to rid peoples of their homes.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Dude, scam me, Samantha.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I just want to see the presentation. I want to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: see you burn six thousand dollars because that does feel
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: like witchcraft.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Oh that I mean you want to see me burn
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: six thousand dollars. Take me to a dispensary in Vegas.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: That's how you should burn six thousand dollars. Well, Gavis,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: this has been amazing.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: No, Lacy, this has been amazing for me.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I'll take myself out of it.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Please, Where do you want to be found? That's what
• 55:43
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• 55:45
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• 55:47
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• 55:54
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• 56:06
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• 56:09
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, it is Gabers is very funny. I
• 56:12
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• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I'm und I mean by the end of this, you
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: know that, right, Like, I don't have to tell you
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: that anyway, I'll try and give him.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: A compliment, see how you'd be acting.
• 56:23
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• 56:24
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• 56:40
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