Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: T.I. Talks OG Clay Tribute, Telling His Own Story, Drake & Kendrick, Young Thug, Family + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, the breakfast Club morning.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Everybody is Steve j n V Jess Hilariu, Charlamage, the guy.
- 0:09Speaker 2: We are the breakfast club. Before we get started, I
- 0:11Speaker 2: ceet I looking again. Last time you were saying, we
- 0:14Speaker 2: said that we didn't finish the wall.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Yeah, and we told the king that the new wall
- 0:21Speaker 3: had him on it.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Do you see yourself on the wall?
- 0:24Speaker 4: Okay?
- 0:24Speaker 3: All right, you know in fourteen years, because you know,
- 0:27Speaker 3: everything on this wall is fourteen years of breakfast club history.
- 0:30Speaker 4: We had to figure out which which version of T
- 0:32Speaker 4: I was gonna be on the wall.
- 0:33Speaker 1: See, I see you got dread, you got dreads?
- 0:35Speaker 4: Yeah that's right.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, then how you feeling though? I'm cooling it? Man,
- 0:40Speaker 1: what's up with y'all? Good? I can't call it.
- 0:42Speaker 3: I'll be wondering if dread t I more t I
- 0:45Speaker 3: tip of Clifford Harris Man.
- 0:47Speaker 5: Yeah, they're probably more, mister Harris, Okay, mister yeah, yeah,
- 0:50Speaker 5: it's a little.
- 0:51Speaker 1: It's a little. It's a little evolved elevated in the consciousness.
- 0:54Speaker 2: And okay, so how do you how do you feel
- 0:57Speaker 2: with because now that the evolved T I is also
- 1:00Speaker 2: uh even more of a fault, TI, because not only
- 1:02Speaker 2: are you just a fault, you'll have to be a
- 1:03Speaker 2: father in the industry because all your kids are in
- 1:06Speaker 2: the industry.
- 1:07Speaker 5: Man, Damn, yeah, that's that's that's what I ain't see
- 1:11Speaker 5: that one coming. Really, Nah, I didn't, you know, because
- 1:15Speaker 5: I mean, to be honest with you, went the money
- 1:17Speaker 5: when he first said he wanted to rap, you know,
- 1:20Speaker 5: like like.
- 1:20Speaker 1: You sucked so.
- 1:29Speaker 4: But but but the thing is.
- 1:31Speaker 5: Man, I really I really admire his dedication and commitment
- 1:36Speaker 5: to the crab because you know, I kind of told him,
- 1:40Speaker 5: you know, what was wrong about it, and he committed
- 1:43Speaker 5: to to to changing it, you know what I mean.
- 1:46Speaker 5: And he's probably one of the most eloquent rappers I
- 1:51Speaker 5: know right now.
- 1:52Speaker 4: That generation love him. What did he want? What was
- 1:56Speaker 4: he getting wrong?
- 1:57Speaker 1: Man?
- 1:57Speaker 5: To be honest with your man, all he was talking
- 1:59Speaker 5: about was buying not the ice cream truck for everybody.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Something. I'm like, yo, bro, you're gonna get your ass kicked.
- 2:10Speaker 6: Man.
- 2:10Speaker 1: You know you got you right now.
- 2:12Speaker 5: You're rapping about a privilege that only you can enjoy.
- 2:17Speaker 5: This is something, this is a life only you know about.
- 2:20Speaker 5: You should be rapping about the things in your life.
- 2:23Speaker 5: That you have in coming with other people who may
- 2:26Speaker 5: not live like you. And then that's when he started
- 2:29Speaker 5: like talking about you know, you know, weekends at a
- 2:33Speaker 5: mansion and going to school from my mama house, and
- 2:37Speaker 5: you know, just just you know, growing up, you know,
- 2:40Speaker 5: without a full time father, you.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Know, just those types of things.
- 2:44Speaker 5: And when he started tapping into the elements of relation,
- 2:49Speaker 5: that's when you know it's start clicking on a different level.
- 2:52Speaker 4: Did you have that when you first started?
- 2:54Speaker 1: Well you yeah, absolutely so.
- 2:55Speaker 4: You was dope from the beginning.
- 2:57Speaker 5: Well, I mean not as dope as I am now.
- 3:00Speaker 5: I mean, I knew what I wanted to talk about.
- 3:03Speaker 5: It was always about me not having the pops. It
- 3:06Speaker 5: was about my uncle being in prison. It was about
- 3:09Speaker 5: you know, me being forced to go to school, and
- 3:12Speaker 5: I don't think that's.
- 3:12Speaker 1: The answer for me, you know what I mean.
- 3:15Speaker 5: It was about you know, how I feel like people
- 3:21Speaker 5: in our generation is kind of pushed into the dope game,
- 3:23Speaker 5: whether we like it or not. Like I got demos
- 3:26Speaker 5: of me in ninety three, and I'm rapping about the
- 3:28Speaker 5: same shit for real.
- 3:30Speaker 4: He was a teenager then, Yeah.
- 3:32Speaker 1: That was twelve, thirteen years old.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Yeah, and now your youngest daughter, which is I'm sure
- 3:37Speaker 3: that's the one.
- 3:38Speaker 2: You got to make sure she's singing and she's successful.
- 3:41Speaker 2: People love her and I heard that you guys up here,
- 3:44Speaker 2: you know, looking at shopping.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Deals and stuff.
- 3:46Speaker 5: Na, no, no, I'm not shopping no deal. She's up
- 3:49Speaker 5: here with her mom. Like, like for real, I don't
- 3:52Speaker 5: push the industry on none of my kids.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I really would love for them to do like Major.
- 3:58Speaker 5: He just brought much enjoyed in my hard when he
- 4:01Speaker 5: was like, nah, I don't want no pause of that.
- 4:03Speaker 5: I just want to he said he want to be
- 4:05Speaker 5: an author, like he wanted to like write books and
- 4:07Speaker 5: do do stories and ship. So that was that was
- 4:10Speaker 5: like like a relief for me. But but Airis is
- 4:16Speaker 5: under her mother's tutelage as a as a singer and
- 4:20Speaker 5: a performer, and she just she just dropped the song
- 4:24Speaker 5: with Van Van with Van Van featured Airis on her song.
- 4:28Speaker 5: And of course, you know Van Van is managed by
- 4:30Speaker 5: the legendary MC light, so you know, it's it's a
- 4:35Speaker 5: pleasure to work alongside that team, and Van Van works
- 4:39Speaker 5: real hard. She's super dope, you know what I mean,
- 4:41Speaker 5: She's a dope ass. EMC at five Wow, Yeah, I mean,
- 4:46Speaker 5: so they got a record and they went to the
- 4:48Speaker 5: Tammer Hall show yesterday. I was just there for support.
- 4:50Speaker 4: So is it a house divided? Is it? I don't
- 4:52Speaker 4: want my kids in this business, but the queen does.
- 4:55Speaker 5: M Oh yeah, definitely. No, No, she definitely. Josephine Jackson,
- 5:02Speaker 5: you know, I don't like I really, man, I really
- 5:07Speaker 5: just want the kids to be able to focus on
- 5:11Speaker 5: being kids and developing all of the fundamental principles that
- 5:15Speaker 5: they need in their.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Life and their character. Uh.
- 5:20Speaker 5: But she like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they gonna have that too.
- 5:23Speaker 5: But they're gonna they're gonna do some work. And I
- 5:25Speaker 5: respect the fact that, you know, she wanted them to work. Really,
- 5:28Speaker 5: I just know that this this this game is unforgiving.
- 5:31Speaker 1: You feel me? But so far, so good, man.
- 5:34Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, King, Man, I think I
- 5:36Speaker 5: think King he trying. He trying to get in the ring.
- 5:40Speaker 5: He wants see in boxing, want to be a UFC
- 5:43Speaker 5: fighter or some ship. I mean, you know, hey, man,
- 5:48Speaker 5: he always been nice with his hands. I ain't gonna lie,
- 5:50Speaker 5: but I mean, I mean, no, I think yeah, Mom, definitely, Now,
- 5:59Speaker 5: I think think I think really it was in his
- 6:01Speaker 5: hard at first, because all we did would turn them
- 6:03Speaker 5: on to the principles of boxing. I put all the
- 6:06Speaker 5: kids in boxing, Major included Major, Messiah the money, but
- 6:11Speaker 5: King was really the one that really, really really wanted
- 6:13Speaker 5: to work at it. He was going when we when
- 6:15Speaker 5: we weren't going, and he he just has a love
- 6:19Speaker 5: and a passion for it. And to be honest with you,
- 6:22Speaker 5: I think you know, if he decides to dedicate himself
- 6:25Speaker 5: to it, it's something that that he could that he
- 6:28Speaker 5: could he could thrive in if.
- 6:29Speaker 1: He took it serious. Box Nah well not not not
- 6:33Speaker 1: not not professing Jewish cardio, I definitely nah. I boxed
- 6:37Speaker 1: for survival, but I didn't.
- 6:41Speaker 5: I've never played any organized anything, nothing but ride bikes.
- 6:46Speaker 1: S dope. You never played basketball.
- 6:51Speaker 5: You find me in the damn uniform taking a picture
- 6:55Speaker 5: for a team, man, I got I give you my
- 6:58Speaker 5: my tesla, Cybertrucks.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Man.
- 7:00Speaker 3: That's impressive because not to bring up old stuff, but
- 7:02Speaker 3: there was a former champion of the world, one of
- 7:04Speaker 3: the greatest boxes ever.
- 7:05Speaker 4: Who quoted he's.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Quoted as saying, God, damn y'all was fast. I remember
- 7:13Speaker 3: him saying that. Man, you quoted you said that, Damn
- 7:16Speaker 3: t y'all was back.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Hey, listen, man, I'm gonna tell you this.
- 7:21Speaker 5: I think that you know and I in our youth,
- 7:23Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, we find ourselves in situations
- 7:27Speaker 5: that you know, sometimes it's more it's more metaphysical than physical,
- 7:32Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Sometimes your mind and your
- 7:34Speaker 5: heart gets you through situations that you're physical. You never
- 7:39Speaker 5: really knew you had the capabilities of you know what
- 7:41Speaker 5: I'm saying. Uh, and you know I did. I would
- 7:46Speaker 5: never step in the ring. You don't kick with a
- 7:49Speaker 5: karate man.
- 7:51Speaker 1: You don't box with the boxes.
- 7:54Speaker 5: You tried though, nah, I mean you know what I'm saying.
- 7:57Speaker 5: That was on the streets, sir. Yeah, I'm not fenna
- 8:01Speaker 5: be bound and restricted by.
- 8:03Speaker 1: No rules and regulations. What I'm saying, we throwing chairs
- 8:08Speaker 1: and napkin holes everything.
- 8:12Speaker 3: What about this business? You know, because you've been in
- 8:14Speaker 3: for so long, it's been twenty it's been twenty.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Five now, man, so let's see twenty three.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Twenty three. What about this business? Would you not want
- 8:25Speaker 3: your kids? What about it makes you not want your
- 8:27Speaker 3: kids to be in?
- 8:27Speaker 4: It's the treachery.
- 8:29Speaker 5: It's the treachery, the betrayal, the deceit, you know what
- 8:32Speaker 5: I'm saying. I mean just the fact that my kids, man,
- 8:35Speaker 5: they all expect, they expect great things from the world
- 8:41Speaker 5: because they were raised around.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Honest and righteous people. You know what I'm saying.
- 8:46Speaker 5: They were raised around people that meant the best for them,
- 8:49Speaker 5: you know, and the world ain't that.
- 8:52Speaker 1: The world just ain't that. So, so I know that.
- 8:54Speaker 5: When they walk out the house, they expect what they
- 8:57Speaker 5: was raised around, the people that they were raised, the
- 8:59Speaker 5: intake and the principles that come from the people they
- 9:03Speaker 5: were raised around, and that's not what's out there in
- 9:06Speaker 5: the world. So I feel like they already at a
- 9:08Speaker 5: disadvantage you never thought about.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I don't even know if you've done it, like creating
- 9:13Speaker 2: your own production and say, you know, I'm gonnaign each
- 9:15Speaker 2: and every one of them. So they have to deal
- 9:16Speaker 2: with that. And since you've been through the industry.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Working for my children, No, I don't want to work
- 9:20Speaker 1: for my children. You know, it's guiding your children now.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Rather you have your kids so you can follow and
- 9:26Speaker 2: guide and make sure they do the right contracts. Your lawyers,
- 9:28Speaker 2: your accountants, you can control the business with the label
- 9:31Speaker 2: because they're not the labels ain't necessarily gonna try to play.
- 9:34Speaker 5: I mean, you know what, check this out now if
- 9:37Speaker 5: it and yes, they will try to play me.
- 9:39Speaker 1: But you know again you've been there.
- 9:41Speaker 5: I gotta kick in those and flip over tables to
- 9:43Speaker 5: get my money right, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
- 9:47Speaker 5: it's only so many of me. I can only get
- 9:49Speaker 5: away with so much for so long.
- 9:51Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Some of the extremes you.
- 9:53Speaker 5: Have to go through to get your shit together. You
- 9:56Speaker 5: ain't gonna get away with that shit two times and
- 9:58Speaker 5: three times.
- 9:59Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 9:59Speaker 5: They go like, Okay, I know how he's coming this time,
- 10:02Speaker 5: you know, But that's not a bad idea.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I feel like execution is key, you know what I mean.
- 10:09Speaker 5: And the team that you're able to surround yourself with
- 10:12Speaker 5: U and man not yet music bro. I run like
- 10:16Speaker 5: run like twelve thirteen companies, you know what I'm saying.
- 10:19Speaker 5: And I have a team of uh maybe six and
- 10:26Speaker 5: like six of us running twelve thirteen companies. You add
- 10:30Speaker 5: another motherfucker with, you know, with more shit on top
- 10:33Speaker 5: of that, and shit gonna you know, something gonna fall
- 10:36Speaker 5: through the cracks. So it would have to be a
- 10:38Speaker 5: hell of a staff. But it's a great idea.
- 10:40Speaker 1: I tell you what, how about.
- 10:41Speaker 5: You come on, you come on board man and help
- 10:43Speaker 5: me figure it out? Absolutely, I mean you know what
- 10:50Speaker 5: I'm saying, Grand hustles like you know, we we exist,
- 10:54Speaker 5: but we a satellite unit, you know for the more part. Everybody,
- 10:58Speaker 5: you know, kind of we come in as we need
- 11:01Speaker 5: to to operate, uh, in the capacity that's necessary, but
- 11:05Speaker 5: everybody kind of like doing their own thing a little.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Bit coming from the extremes you come from.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Do you ever want your kids to have just just
- 11:12Speaker 3: some of that some of that struggling?
- 11:14Speaker 4: Is that necessary for them to have some of them?
- 11:16Speaker 1: Ah? Ship, Well, let king tell it.
- 11:18Speaker 5: He got he you know, he got it out. He
- 11:23Speaker 5: got it at the mud Man. I mean now, but
- 11:26Speaker 5: I do I do see some of the the tenacity
- 11:30Speaker 5: and king that I had, you know what I'm saying,
- 11:33Speaker 5: some of the gout to make it no matter what type.
- 11:36Speaker 5: Ship like he really pushing like here, you know, like
- 11:39Speaker 5: he came like he came out at the at the
- 11:42Speaker 5: welfare line. But I do want that form, but I
- 11:49Speaker 5: don't want to be there to see it, you know
- 11:51Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I don't think it'll break my heart
- 11:54Speaker 5: to see it, you know, but yeah, I would. You
- 11:57Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like if if I could all asleep, Fuck,
- 12:01Speaker 5: if I could have fell asleep for about two three years.
- 12:04Speaker 1: And then woke up, They were like, man, we glad
- 12:06Speaker 1: you up. Man.
- 12:06Speaker 4: We were struggling like a motherfucker damn, and we ain't eight.
- 12:11Speaker 1: You know. I think I think that that that that would.
- 12:16Speaker 5: Offer them some some principles that would benefit them, you know.
- 12:21Speaker 1: And I think that you know, that kind.
- 12:23Speaker 5: Of ship you can't you can't teach that, you know
- 12:27Speaker 5: what I'm saying, that kind of tenacity and that kind
- 12:30Speaker 5: of that kind of die hard, you know, just just resilience.
- 12:35Speaker 1: You can't teach that ship.
- 12:36Speaker 3: How much of that as coaches fault, right, because you know,
- 12:39Speaker 3: hip hop have glorified the ghetto.
- 12:42Speaker 4: We've glorified the hood. You know, we made it its
- 12:44Speaker 4: fly because that's where you came from, you.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Know, the hood all way that Hey man, look man,
- 12:48Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 12:48Speaker 5: Man, as far back as you could go, the most fun,
- 12:51Speaker 5: the most excitement has always been what the most drager was,
- 12:55Speaker 5: you know. I mean it's always been that way, you know,
- 12:58Speaker 5: I mean, man, I mean, is it the ghetto folks
- 13:01Speaker 5: brouh not. I don't think so, because it's not intentional,
- 13:06Speaker 5: you know what I mean. The ghetto is the way
- 13:09Speaker 5: the ghetto is naturally, it's it's genuine, you feel what
- 13:15Speaker 5: I'm saying. Ain't nobody intentionally trying to project no image
- 13:21Speaker 5: just because they think it look cool, you know what
- 13:23Speaker 5: I mean? Like, motherfucker do that ship because you know
- 13:26Speaker 5: it's out of necessity, you know what I mean, or
- 13:30Speaker 5: out of out of its fucking despair. It's the motherfuckers
- 13:33Speaker 5: who want to imitate that they're from the ghetto that's
- 13:36Speaker 5: doing it just to look cool, you know.
- 13:37Speaker 4: What I mean.
- 13:37Speaker 5: The motherfucker that's in it. They doing it nigga cause
- 13:40Speaker 5: it's all they got, you feel me.
- 13:42Speaker 4: But it's so unforgiving though, like you know.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Just think about it, some of the stuff that we did.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Just imagine if there was cameras back then, who you know,
- 13:48Speaker 2: I imagine if people with videotaping us and putting us
- 13:50Speaker 2: on social media.
- 13:51Speaker 4: That shouldn't be amazing, wouldn't be amazing about people who
- 13:58Speaker 4: were never there to hear about it.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Because you in the fast the stories that you hear
- 14:02Speaker 3: about tip from back in the day. If you didn't,
- 14:05Speaker 3: if you didn't see it, I didn't know people who
- 14:07Speaker 3: could actually vout probably wouldn't believe it.
- 14:10Speaker 4: Are you gonna talk?
- 14:12Speaker 3: Forget the hood, they're gonna talk people are buildings from committing.
- 14:18Speaker 4: Things that you like? He did? What now?
- 14:21Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to look.
- 14:22Speaker 5: First of all, I'm gonna say this man, and I
- 14:24Speaker 5: say this chance I get man.
- 14:25Speaker 1: The glory go to God and me. You know what
- 14:28Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm just a vessel. I'm an instrument.
- 14:30Speaker 5: I just happened to be in places with a notion
- 14:33Speaker 5: to do things that turned out to be the right thing,
- 14:37Speaker 5: just as well as our places did ship that turned
- 14:40Speaker 5: that to be the wrong ship.
- 14:42Speaker 4: But for the right reason.
- 14:44Speaker 5: I think that, you know, all of us have greatness
- 14:48Speaker 5: in us. All of us have a purpose. All of
- 14:51Speaker 5: us are sent here with the capabilities of doing phenomenal
- 14:54Speaker 5: things for the world. It just whether or not we're
- 14:57Speaker 5: gonna listen to that voice or whether we go listen
- 14:59Speaker 5: to of the fear and the doubt. You know what
- 15:01Speaker 5: I'm saying, Oh no, you can't do that, because every
- 15:04Speaker 5: time I went I found myself in an outstanding situation.
- 15:09Speaker 5: Every time I found myself in a situation like that.
- 15:12Speaker 5: There was alway that voice that.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Man, you can't do that. How we gonna do that?
- 15:15Speaker 5: That ain't gonna work. But I had to push past
- 15:17Speaker 5: that and go on and do the shit. And on
- 15:20Speaker 5: the other side of it, you know, that's where you
- 15:22Speaker 5: get the carriage and you get the wisdom and to
- 15:25Speaker 5: understand it.
- 15:26Speaker 3: I wanted to ask what did you think about and
- 15:28Speaker 3: without picking a winner, the rat beef right, and the
- 15:31Speaker 3: reason I say it is, do you think it was needed?
- 15:33Speaker 2: We've seen it with you and it and a bunch
- 15:35Speaker 2: of people you've been beef with. We've seen it with
- 15:36Speaker 2: Jay and Niles, We've seen it with Fifth and Joy Rule,
- 15:38Speaker 2: We've seen it with so many different artists. Do you
- 15:41Speaker 2: think it was needed in hip hop to bring back
- 15:44Speaker 2: that competition because nobody got hurt, nobody got you know, nobody.
- 15:47Speaker 5: I don't know about needed. I will say I feel
- 15:51Speaker 5: it's inevitable, you know what I mean? I think, man,
- 15:55Speaker 5: you know that can only be that can only be
- 16:00Speaker 5: multiple juggernauts without a clash for so long. I mean,
- 16:06Speaker 5: eventually we got to see, you know what I mean,
- 16:09Speaker 5: which one of us? Which one of us is gonna
- 16:11Speaker 5: walk out the ring, you know, like ultimate Warrior.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Style like that.
- 16:16Speaker 5: Just that's the nature of that's the nature of the
- 16:19Speaker 5: not just the beasts, is the nature of humanity, to
- 16:21Speaker 5: be honest with you, that's I think that's in that's
- 16:23Speaker 5: in the in the in the bill. But I think
- 16:28Speaker 5: that the bright side here, like you said, nobody got
- 16:31Speaker 5: hurt and we got some phenomenal bars.
- 16:33Speaker 1: Out there, definitely, you know what I mean.
- 16:35Speaker 3: And I mean and I think that they handled it
- 16:37Speaker 3: way more mature than our generation used to handle it
- 16:40Speaker 3: because our generation was music and being on radio saying
- 16:44Speaker 3: when I see you, it's gonna go down. Well, I
- 16:46Speaker 3: would have pulled up on the person's blocking one rapper
- 16:49Speaker 3: that you haven't had some type.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Of altercation with them, Hey man, looks.
- 16:54Speaker 4: Or somebody in the crew.
- 16:56Speaker 5: Let's talk about the bright side, you know, the s
- 17:00Speaker 5: but lying is, like you said, it stayed on waxing.
- 17:03Speaker 5: But you know what, I'm gonna tell you something, I'm
- 17:05Speaker 5: a little more concerned about motherfuckers who don't say anything.
- 17:10Speaker 1: I'm a little more concerned with that, you know.
- 17:14Speaker 4: Uh.
- 17:14Speaker 5: But but I think that for right now, this ship
- 17:17Speaker 5: is it's just it's it's a phenomenal sport. Right, and
- 17:21Speaker 5: you know, we've had an opportunity to witness two of
- 17:23Speaker 5: the greatest of not just a five time, but the
- 17:27Speaker 5: greatest to do it, two of the greatest to do it.
- 17:30Speaker 5: Go at it and exchange blows and ship. You know,
- 17:33Speaker 5: I think it's a It's a beautiful time to be alive,
- 17:36Speaker 5: to say that we that that we live through it.
- 17:38Speaker 3: I mean another page in this amazing book that is
- 17:42Speaker 3: t I every time Drake does get mentioned in the
- 17:44Speaker 3: rap beef somebody.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Doing now.
- 17:50Speaker 4: It comes up every time.
- 17:51Speaker 1: I can't do it, bro, I got you. I don't know, man,
- 17:56Speaker 1: if you don't know, if you don't know, if.
- 17:59Speaker 4: You don't know what respect the man. When she said.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Interview, I need to ask, were you surprised, uh the
- 18:08Speaker 2: other day Charlamagne by a week ago? Right, you did
- 18:10Speaker 2: a freestyle onlycas Oh. Yeah, he got so excited.
- 18:15Speaker 3: He up here and he listened to the bars, right,
- 18:18Speaker 3: one of my favorite rapping got excited. And I'm sitting
- 18:20Speaker 3: there like which I forgot to can spit? Like when
- 18:23Speaker 3: you were surprised that people really forgot that.
- 18:25Speaker 4: You can wrap?
- 18:26Speaker 1: Yeah? I just thought you a comedian.
- 18:28Speaker 5: I'm like over, I think uh, you know, out of sight,
- 18:32Speaker 5: out of man, you feel me?
- 18:35Speaker 1: And and uh.
- 18:38Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, man, cause I'll be hearing ship. I remember,
- 18:40Speaker 5: you know, they had these reaction videos where people playing
- 18:44Speaker 5: and then they react to it. They're like, man, I'm
- 18:48Speaker 5: not expecting much because you know, when's the last time
- 18:50Speaker 5: you heard T. I dropped some ship that was like,
- 18:53Speaker 5: oh lord, when was the last time you heard bars
- 18:56Speaker 5: from T?
- 18:56Speaker 4: I'm like, every time?
- 18:58Speaker 1: The fuck is this guy been?
- 19:01Speaker 5: You know, it's like these motherfucker's computers don't work or something.
- 19:04Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, and to be honest with you,
- 19:07Speaker 1: I didn't plan.
- 19:08Speaker 5: On going there and doing that, Uh, I really so
- 19:11Speaker 5: I just you know, I dropped. I dropped the record
- 19:14Speaker 5: Longe Live O, G Clay, Me and NBA young Boy.
- 19:17Speaker 5: Uh drop that record, and of course I will move
- 19:20Speaker 5: around doing press. Happy to be in l A uh
- 19:23Speaker 5: and uh just Incredible asked me to come in, you know,
- 19:28Speaker 5: to the leakers, and of course I did. Uh And
- 19:32Speaker 5: and we all have seen all of the other freestyles
- 19:35Speaker 5: and shit.
- 19:36Speaker 1: So I was like, in my head, I was like, damn,
- 19:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell him. I don't want to do it.
- 19:40Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell him I'm you know, when he had
- 19:43Speaker 5: me to do it, I'm like gonna be keep a
- 19:44Speaker 5: player and say no, right, And then at the end
- 19:47Speaker 5: of the interview.
- 19:47Speaker 1: He was like, all right, well, I'll let you later.
- 19:50Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this niggain't even gonna ask. You know
- 20:00Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was like yeah, He's like, oh,
- 20:02Speaker 1: oh you get.
- 20:03Speaker 4: Down like that.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I'm like, man, nigga, man find me some ship.
- 20:06Speaker 4: Man find you down like that.
- 20:07Speaker 5: God damn yeah yeah yeah yeah, So that I mean,
- 20:11Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, That's how that came about.
- 20:13Speaker 1: It wasn't even that intentional. For real.
- 20:15Speaker 3: On the freestyle, you said, uh twenty one savages is
- 20:18Speaker 3: like your grandson.
- 20:19Speaker 4: They can't remember the exact line.
- 20:20Speaker 5: But now that's that's that's a term that we have like,
- 20:24Speaker 5: uh me savage. My partner Doc rugs.
- 20:31Speaker 4: Dirt.
- 20:32Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's a it's a
- 20:34Speaker 5: it's a group of to hang and we kick it,
- 20:37Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, play cards and talk ship
- 20:39Speaker 5: at copper cold. That's just like a term that we've
- 20:42Speaker 5: talkeed around. Got you got you within that little group.
- 20:45Speaker 3: One thing that always goes viral is you talking to
- 20:47Speaker 3: twenty one, and you're telling twenty one, I can't sign
- 20:50Speaker 3: you because you know.
- 20:51Speaker 4: If I give you a million dollars, I might have
- 20:52Speaker 4: to damn there, yeah pay everything.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, because the value of it.
- 20:57Speaker 5: I mean, like for instance, right and I mean, you
- 20:59Speaker 5: know he understands it now, but you know at the time,
- 21:02Speaker 5: hedn't want to hear that. He like, nigga, you got it,
- 21:04Speaker 5: come on, man, And I admire you know, I admire
- 21:08Speaker 5: his his you know, belief in himself to even come
- 21:10Speaker 5: forward and say some shit like that. But but it's
- 21:15Speaker 5: almost like, Okay, let's just say.
- 21:18Speaker 1: If you go to.
- 21:21Speaker 5: A place that's being gentrified, and the present value of
- 21:27Speaker 5: this property is one hundred thousand, but you know they
- 21:33Speaker 5: about to build, uh, they gonna build.
- 21:36Speaker 1: A whole, you know what I'm saying.
- 21:38Speaker 5: And you know that over the course of these three
- 21:40Speaker 5: four years it could go up to be worth one
- 21:44Speaker 5: point two one point three in about four five year.
- 21:48Speaker 5: Is you gonna come and get that million right now
- 21:50Speaker 5: for that hundred thousand for that for that property that's
- 21:53Speaker 5: only worth one hundred thousand right now? To build the
- 21:55Speaker 5: business is just not structured for that type of acquisition.
- 21:59Speaker 1: And that's what I'm trying to explain.
- 22:02Speaker 5: Now, if I do come and give you a million dollars,
- 22:05Speaker 5: it gonna be because I know that it's worth ten
- 22:08Speaker 5: million dollars and I'm gonna take something, and I don't
- 22:11Speaker 5: want to do that. I don't want, you know, I
- 22:13Speaker 5: don't even want that on my spirit. So I just communicate.
- 22:16Speaker 5: I communicate to him, and I'm very forthcoming, uh with
- 22:20Speaker 5: with with the intention walking into it.
- 22:22Speaker 4: And I'm sure that that's built y'all bond over the years.
- 22:26Speaker 5: Yeah man, me and him me thugug. You know what
- 22:30Speaker 5: I'm saying, there's so many of us, bro that we
- 22:34Speaker 5: just had that. But I don't make no money elf
- 22:36Speaker 5: of him.
- 22:36Speaker 4: I don't have no.
- 22:37Speaker 5: Then the relationship with him, but we just so we wheezy,
- 22:42Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. We just had that kind
- 22:44Speaker 5: of relationship because of how we how we met at
- 22:47Speaker 5: the beginning of their career.
- 22:49Speaker 4: You thought you spoke Doug.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, have you ever seen the kids like this?
- 22:53Speaker 1: He coming home now?
- 22:54Speaker 4: To be right?
- 22:54Speaker 1: Nobody has, Yeah, nobody has. Nobody has.
- 22:58Speaker 4: What makes you think I believe he's coming on?
- 23:01Speaker 5: I don't think that the prosecution is successfully proving the
- 23:04Speaker 5: case of you know him, knowingly and willingly participating in.
- 23:10Speaker 1: An active streak game. I don't. I just don't see it.
- 23:14Speaker 1: I don't think that the witnesses that.
- 23:16Speaker 5: They've called thus far have proven what they said that
- 23:20Speaker 5: they would prove.
- 23:22Speaker 1: And I don't. I just don't think.
- 23:25Speaker 5: That, you know that the grounds of their case have
- 23:28Speaker 5: been uh, have been presented probably, I just I just
- 23:32Speaker 5: ain't seen it.
- 23:33Speaker 2: The sad thing about that all is is that's a man,
- 23:35Speaker 2: that's a father that can't see his kids. He can't
- 23:38Speaker 2: make no money while he's in there. All he's doing
- 23:40Speaker 2: is spending money because he got to pay for attorneys
- 23:42Speaker 2: and all that other stuff. So when he comes home,
- 23:43Speaker 2: is he almost damned? They got to start from zero
- 23:45Speaker 2: again and everything that.
- 23:46Speaker 1: He built when he come home, we'll get it right,
- 23:51Speaker 1: get him here.
- 23:53Speaker 3: I hate the fact that they do that, you know,
- 23:54Speaker 3: I mean, come on with going from zero to one
- 23:56Speaker 3: hundred a MONI yeah, absolutely, I'm talking about.
- 23:58Speaker 4: A bank account.
- 23:59Speaker 5: I bro, it's it's it's already in it's already in
- 24:04Speaker 5: the it's in the bag.
- 24:05Speaker 1: All he got to do is touchdown. When it touched down,
- 24:07Speaker 1: we getting there.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Have you made a conscious decision to kind of like
- 24:11Speaker 3: stay away from any political conversations. Yes, okay, why is that?
- 24:16Speaker 1: Yes?
- 24:16Speaker 5: I have why man, man, because it ain't it ain't
- 24:22Speaker 5: it ain't. It ain't as important to me as it
- 24:25Speaker 5: is to them, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know,
- 24:28Speaker 5: the political conversations that I was having was out of
- 24:33Speaker 5: a sheer, genuine sense of wanting to do what's right
- 24:38Speaker 5: for the community. It wasn't because I wanted to put
- 24:39Speaker 5: myself in no position. It wasn't because you know, I
- 24:43Speaker 5: have any aspirations of being a mayor, governor president, none
- 24:48Speaker 5: of that ship.
- 24:48Speaker 1: I don't care about, none of that ship. I hold
- 24:50Speaker 1: a position I.
- 24:51Speaker 5: Hold without a political presence. But for others, they willing
- 24:58Speaker 5: to stoop load to certain level was a treachery that
- 25:01Speaker 5: affect me and the people around me in such a
- 25:03Speaker 5: way that it just ain't worthing for me. So you know,
- 25:08Speaker 5: I can only I can only help them till it
- 25:11Speaker 5: hurt me, you know what I'm saying, And it just
- 25:13Speaker 5: ain't worth it for me. I'm I'm out.
- 25:17Speaker 4: You know, we talked about it.
- 25:18Speaker 3: They tried to They tried to jam you up over
- 25:21Speaker 3: support was over your support for another candidate.
- 25:23Speaker 1: I mean, man, when you're a.
- 25:25Speaker 4: Lot of agregious ship that was coming out.
- 25:26Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all that ship was you know what I'm saying.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Yeah she did, Yeah, yes she did. I won't say
- 25:33Speaker 1: her name.
- 25:34Speaker 5: I remember anybody care enough to research it's googleable, But yeah, man,
- 25:40Speaker 5: a lot of that stuff that people was, you know,
- 25:42Speaker 5: saying by me and then draw up my wife into it.
- 25:45Speaker 5: It had a whole lot to do with, you know,
- 25:48Speaker 5: my support for one political candidate and the opposing political candidate.
- 25:56Speaker 1: That was running against her, you know, had.
- 25:59Speaker 5: Some support orders that they used as henchmen to come
- 26:02Speaker 5: out and kind of they they I guess they felt
- 26:06Speaker 5: like they were going to remove my ability by I
- 26:12Speaker 5: guess muddying my name to keep me from being able
- 26:16Speaker 5: to support the person that would beat them, And I
- 26:20Speaker 5: guess eventually I ended up supporting the person that beat them.
- 26:24Speaker 5: But that was out of it. I didn't I didn't
- 26:26Speaker 5: even like bruh. I wasn't even interested and I hadn't
- 26:30Speaker 5: even thought about it until they started attacking me. When
- 26:34Speaker 5: they started attacking me, it was a fight. It was
- 26:35Speaker 5: kind of like when you backed somebody up against the wall,
- 26:38Speaker 5: you got to come out, you know, but at that point,
- 26:42Speaker 5: I just want to live my life and you know,
- 26:45Speaker 5: continue to raise my children, do the best I can
- 26:49Speaker 5: for me and my family, and you know, just humbly
- 26:52Speaker 5: allow the people around me to continue to flourish. I
- 26:56Speaker 5: ain't really, I ain't tripping. If y'all want to whatever
- 26:59Speaker 5: y'all want to do, y'all going to do it.
- 27:03Speaker 4: Do it. Man, talk to us about the what's the
- 27:05Speaker 4: building called it? In Trada? Yeah? Trada?
- 27:08Speaker 1: What that means, uh Man?
- 27:10Speaker 5: In Trada is a It's a musical term, and tratta
- 27:16Speaker 5: is a musical term that I believe it is a
- 27:19Speaker 5: transition in music. If I'm not mistaken, and I'm going
- 27:25Speaker 5: to go to my Google on this, I'm not sure
- 27:27Speaker 5: if yeah, please someone research and check that it is
- 27:30Speaker 5: a musical term though.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Uh And I didn't come up with that name.
- 27:34Speaker 5: My partners, my development, My development partners did.
- 27:38Speaker 4: Yeah, musical introduction or prelude. Yeah, Okay, there you go,
- 27:41Speaker 4: I was right after all?
- 27:42Speaker 1: Okay, cool. So it is an affordable housing, mixed use.
- 27:49Speaker 5: Community that we've been fortunate enough to offer to to
- 27:54Speaker 5: to Atlanta because you know, we found that the people
- 27:59Speaker 5: that work in Atlanta came to want to live in
- 28:00Speaker 5: Atlanta now. Yeah, damn mm hmm. People live on the
- 28:06Speaker 5: outskirts of Atlanta now because you know, I guess the
- 28:11Speaker 5: good and the bad. You know, so many people have
- 28:14Speaker 5: migrated the Tide city, making it a metropolis, and it
- 28:17Speaker 5: has brought a lot of great.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Things to the city.
- 28:20Speaker 5: But one of the things that it is done that
- 28:22Speaker 5: is uh, that is that is that is negative.
- 28:25Speaker 1: Is they they brought they cost of living with them.
- 28:29Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like people moved from New
- 28:31Speaker 5: York and you know, you moved from New York to
- 28:34Speaker 5: Atlanta and find out where you was paying uh forty
- 28:40Speaker 5: five hundred for a two bedroom and you come down
- 28:43Speaker 5: to find out that you're in competition with somebody who
- 28:46Speaker 5: paying twenty five hundred for a faux bedroom. You're like, man,
- 28:51Speaker 5: I give you three thousand, and so people just start
- 28:54Speaker 5: overpaying and outpriced to people who had been working there,
- 28:58Speaker 5: living there for years, and you know, and that here
- 29:01Speaker 5: we are.
- 29:01Speaker 4: I think the last time you say you was looking
- 29:02Speaker 4: for it, was it a drug store, grocery store?
- 29:04Speaker 1: Looking for a grocery store and I found one. Okay, yeah,
- 29:06Speaker 1: I found one.
- 29:07Speaker 5: Uh at least I at least I believe we have
- 29:10Speaker 5: as we've gone as far as a verbal agreement for
- 29:14Speaker 5: a uh for a grocery store to occupy the retail
- 29:19Speaker 5: space that's at the ground level of Introtter. And I
- 29:24Speaker 5: ain't even gonna ain't gonna say their name right now
- 29:26Speaker 5: because I don't I don't want to mention nothing up.
- 29:28Speaker 5: But I think I found one, and I think I
- 29:29Speaker 5: have finally been able to offer fresh produce and groceries
- 29:34Speaker 5: to the community. I hope I can get a pharmacy
- 29:36Speaker 5: in there too.
- 29:37Speaker 4: How big it is?
- 29:38Speaker 5: I mean one hundred and forty three units, one hundred
- 29:41Speaker 5: and forty three units of affordable housing.
- 29:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna ask, how do you know what Atlanta?
- 29:45Speaker 2: I noticed, like traffic is crazy now Atlanta get into
- 29:49Speaker 2: the airport is crazy. It is crime slow down and
- 29:52Speaker 2: seemed like a lot in Atlanta recently.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I haven't paid much. I pay like crime. I paid
- 29:59Speaker 1: attention to it the week, you know what I'm saying.
- 30:02Speaker 5: And in the last couple of weeks, it's it's been this,
- 30:04Speaker 5: it's it's it's picked up. But you know, all in
- 30:08Speaker 5: our broh, the city is filled with beautiful people who
- 30:15Speaker 5: who have a phenomenal culture and you know, even with
- 30:19Speaker 5: the bad stuff. I feel like the good always over
- 30:22Speaker 5: overweys it outweighs it.
- 30:24Speaker 3: I don't want to go back there and try it
- 30:25Speaker 3: for a minute, cause it's a hundred and forty three n'es.
- 30:27Speaker 3: But you bought this property over a decade ago, right.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Yeah, two thousand and thirteen fourteen.
- 30:32Speaker 3: So I just want people to understand the process of
- 30:34Speaker 3: how long it takes to get something like this.
- 30:37Speaker 1: This is going yeah, man, I I just bought the property.
- 30:44Speaker 5: I didn't know what I was gonna do with it
- 30:45Speaker 5: at the time. And there was a series of events
- 30:48Speaker 5: that took place that brought a lot of things to
- 30:51Speaker 5: my attention, like the statistic I told you, uh, and
- 30:54Speaker 5: and and affordable housing was a huge part of the
- 31:00Speaker 5: city's initiative, And and me having the opportunity of sitting
- 31:08Speaker 5: next to Killer Mike on the transition team for the
- 31:13Speaker 5: Mayor of Atlanta at the time, which was Mayor.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Keisha Lan's bottom.
- 31:18Speaker 5: That put set me alongside of of some huge, huge
- 31:23Speaker 5: affordable housing developers, one of them which took took us
- 31:27Speaker 5: under his wing and mentored us as developers. And that
- 31:30Speaker 5: was the legendary Noel Khalil And and God rests. So
- 31:36Speaker 5: he he kind of taught us the game and showed
- 31:38Speaker 5: us a lot of things about it, uh that we
- 31:41Speaker 5: just didn't have any understanding or awareness of.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Uh. And and as.
- 31:47Speaker 5: We just began to connect the dots, we saw that
- 31:49Speaker 5: that this piece of property could could offer as you know,
- 31:54Speaker 5: as such a benefit to the to the community.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Uh. And you know, and we just again that's when
- 32:00Speaker 1: the dream were born.
- 32:02Speaker 4: Incredible because everybody, you know, you have all these conversations
- 32:04Speaker 4: about buying your own, buying back the you know, investing
- 32:08Speaker 4: in your hood. Like you You've done that in a major,
- 32:10Speaker 4: major way. Man.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Yeah, man, wa.
- 32:15Speaker 5: It just you know, I can't say I'm not you know,
- 32:20Speaker 5: I ain't have like a plan to do it that way.
- 32:24Speaker 1: It just kind of like I have.
- 32:26Speaker 5: Done things that put me in a position to be
- 32:29Speaker 5: able to do it that way, you.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Know what I mean, like the evolution of new finish, right.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:34Speaker 5: Like, so we started just buying houses, me and my
- 32:36Speaker 5: me and my uncle, buying houses, rehabbing them, buying.
- 32:40Speaker 1: Lots of land, building houses.
- 32:42Speaker 5: And then you know, after the market crash and I
- 32:45Speaker 5: got out of prison, I said, well, now I'm gonna
- 32:47Speaker 5: do it different, And so I started buying commercial, you
- 32:50Speaker 5: know what I mean. As I started buying commercial, then
- 32:54Speaker 5: you know, I started meeting people that were developers of
- 32:58Speaker 5: you know, of commercial, learning about multi families and uh,
- 33:02Speaker 5: mixed use and you know, all those types of things
- 33:05Speaker 5: and uh and and and simultaneously the.
- 33:07Speaker 1: City is evolving, you know, and going vertical.
- 33:12Speaker 5: So now it's like, you know, instead of building six
- 33:15Speaker 5: houses in a row, you want to build a six
- 33:18Speaker 5: story building, you know what I'm saying. So I just
- 33:21Speaker 5: started to learn more about, uh that that that portion
- 33:25Speaker 5: of development.
- 33:27Speaker 4: How how difficult was it to make the long Live
- 33:29Speaker 4: Odu Clay record?
- 33:32Speaker 1: How difficult was it at the time when it was made?
- 33:35Speaker 5: It wasn't difficult at all because I made it like,
- 33:38Speaker 5: uh like two days before the funeral. Damn okay, I
- 33:43Speaker 5: did it like two days before the funeral. Uh I
- 33:45Speaker 5: just I just hit like we held on to it,
- 33:48Speaker 5: uh man. Just ironically enough.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Young boy just reached out to me.
- 33:54Speaker 5: He just reached out to me, and we like just
- 33:56Speaker 5: started talking because he was just asking my advice about stuff.
- 33:59Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, how to get into the movie.
- 34:01Speaker 5: Business, and you know, like how to how to invest
- 34:05Speaker 5: his money and stuff, and you know, and just asking
- 34:09Speaker 5: me advice. And then he was like in our conversation,
- 34:12Speaker 5: he was like, man, I need to get you on
- 34:13Speaker 5: some and then he sent me and I told him like, hey, man,
- 34:16Speaker 5: I don't want to get on like none of that,
- 34:19Speaker 5: none of that, uh that that all that rob and
- 34:21Speaker 5: killing shit. I don't want to do that. I ain't
- 34:23Speaker 5: getting in the middle of none of that shit. Was like, nah, og,
- 34:26Speaker 5: I wouldn't never do you like that. And he sent
- 34:28Speaker 5: me some and I listened to it, and at the
- 34:31Speaker 5: time that's all I could even think about, you know
- 34:33Speaker 5: what I mean. So it just came out like you know,
- 34:37Speaker 5: first take it didn't It wasn't really no, it wasn't
- 34:40Speaker 5: really no thought involved, you know what I mean. It
- 34:43Speaker 5: was really about like how to end it because I
- 34:46Speaker 5: would have went on forever.
- 34:47Speaker 1: I had so much shit to say, you know.
- 34:49Speaker 4: What I mean.
- 34:50Speaker 5: It was really about bringing it to a to a
- 34:52Speaker 5: clothes sticking to landing, you know what I mean.
- 34:55Speaker 3: When you lose people like oh G Clay or even
- 34:57Speaker 3: a capital for lot, did that energy ever get filled
- 35:00Speaker 3: in your life or is it a constant holder?
- 35:04Speaker 4: Man?
- 35:04Speaker 5: It's definitely a constant hold a man. I think, Man,
- 35:14Speaker 5: you getting on. You just kind of getting on and
- 35:18Speaker 5: you figure out ways to go about your day. And
- 35:23Speaker 5: I kind of I appreciate the things that are there
- 35:29Speaker 5: more than I take notice of the things that are missing. Yeah,
- 35:34Speaker 5: I mean, and I think that's that's the positive of it.
- 35:39Speaker 5: It gives you a great appreciation for the things that
- 35:43Speaker 5: are still present in your life, you know what I mean.
- 35:46Speaker 5: And it makes you just just value the time and
- 35:51Speaker 5: the just the presence of motherfuckers and show you how
- 35:56Speaker 5: precious life is, how precious the the love ones we have,
- 36:02Speaker 5: how short, how short the time we have with the mills.
- 36:08Speaker 5: But nah, you don't never like feel no holes. You know,
- 36:11Speaker 5: the hole just grows and you learn to live with it.
- 36:15Speaker 4: Do you ever give yourself the proper opportunity degree?
- 36:17Speaker 5: I mean, what is the proper opportunity degree? Let's say
- 36:20Speaker 5: if I said I gave myself an entire week, who
- 36:22Speaker 5: says a week is enough? Let's say I said a month?
- 36:25Speaker 5: Who says a month is enough? So you know what
- 36:27Speaker 5: I mean, Like, what is the proper opportunity You just
- 36:31Speaker 5: you know, you go through your process, you exist in
- 36:37Speaker 5: that moment. You don't try to run away from the
- 36:40Speaker 5: feelings you're feeling. You know what I'm saying. You let
- 36:43Speaker 5: yourself go through that process and you present yourself as
- 36:48Speaker 5: you are.
- 36:49Speaker 1: You know, don't try.
- 36:50Speaker 5: To cover nothing up, don't try to duck and hide
- 36:53Speaker 5: from the pain that you're feeling. You just go through it,
- 36:57Speaker 5: you know what I mean. As you go through it,
- 36:59Speaker 5: you learn to live with it.
- 37:01Speaker 4: You think you'll ever tell you your full complete story
- 37:04Speaker 4: like you because only you can truly tell it. You
- 37:08Speaker 4: think you would ever tell it all? Not all?
- 37:12Speaker 1: Nah, don't tell it all.
- 37:14Speaker 5: I think I tell as much as I feel, with
- 37:18Speaker 5: help the listener, and as much as I feel would
- 37:24Speaker 5: you know, would be therapeutic to me. But you know something, man,
- 37:29Speaker 5: you know some things will never be spoken. Uh now
- 37:33Speaker 5: now let me see. So there there is an intention
- 37:39Speaker 5: to do a one man show. Well oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 37:46Speaker 5: Well I have an opportunity to step out and not
- 37:50Speaker 5: just perform music, but to tell a story. It had
- 37:53Speaker 5: the music kind of incorporate what you know as a
- 37:56Speaker 5: as a part of a narrative. And you know, we
- 38:01Speaker 5: were so you know what I'm saying, I guess I'll
- 38:04Speaker 5: tell you that. So that's what the stand Up Ship
- 38:06Speaker 5: before stand Up Ship was to prepare me for you know,
- 38:11Speaker 5: to stand up and speak for an hour or more
- 38:16Speaker 5: in front of a crowd too, you know, just just
- 38:21Speaker 5: to know that I could do it. And as I
- 38:23Speaker 5: get stronger in it now I can evolve into my intention,
- 38:27Speaker 5: which is a one man show.
- 38:29Speaker 1: And that's you know.
- 38:32Speaker 5: That that that's that's more like you know that more
- 38:35Speaker 5: like I guess a man, I don't want to say a.
- 38:38Speaker 4: Play, but no, my tank was on broad that was dope.
- 38:43Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know what I'm saying.
- 38:44Speaker 5: So that was that was that's that's that's kind of
- 38:46Speaker 5: where I see my performance going.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Uh. And I and I kind of.
- 38:52Speaker 5: Took a I took a a stab at it with
- 38:55Speaker 5: the orchestra show that we did uh December thirtieth, which
- 38:59Speaker 5: went phenomenal.
- 39:00Speaker 1: That live by the way.
- 39:02Speaker 5: So I see, like, you know, an orchestra and me
- 39:05Speaker 5: and story in and out of songs, jokes, you know
- 39:10Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and do that for about two and
- 39:12Speaker 5: a half hour, And you know, I feel like that
- 39:16Speaker 5: to me is that's where I see my career going.
- 39:21Speaker 5: Rather than Jack go and hop around on rolling loud.
- 39:24Speaker 1: Stages, you know what I mean.
- 39:26Speaker 5: I just feel like that kind of calls on more
- 39:29Speaker 5: of my strengths and gifts than you know, just going
- 39:33Speaker 5: and you know, trying to go on tour with you know,
- 39:37Speaker 5: two to one Savage and so on.
- 39:39Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that, I just feel like
- 39:41Speaker 1: there's more age appropriate for me.
- 39:43Speaker 3: But that's the lesson to be learned, right, Because that's
- 39:46Speaker 3: why I don't judge none of these rappers now, because
- 39:49Speaker 3: if you would have judged twenty plus years ago, please Gucci,
- 39:53Speaker 3: any of these dudes, Like, look a where y'all are now?
- 39:56Speaker 3: How y'all have evolved, how y'all grown?
- 39:57Speaker 4: Is meant?
- 39:58Speaker 1: God is good?
- 39:59Speaker 4: That's right, it's comedy.
- 40:02Speaker 1: You're number one? Love now?
- 40:03Speaker 4: Or is this the music? Man?
- 40:05Speaker 1: I really do love it, you know. I mean like
- 40:08Speaker 1: I can't. I can't tell you. It's a different type
- 40:12Speaker 1: of love, you know what I'm saying. Like it's just
- 40:14Speaker 1: like a like a son and a daughter. You know
- 40:17Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I really, I really do love it.
- 40:19Speaker 4: You know.
- 40:20Speaker 5: You know you love something when you do it for free.
- 40:23Speaker 5: You feel me when you free? I mean shit, I
- 40:27Speaker 5: go and do comedy. I just go grab the bike
- 40:29Speaker 5: and do that ship for free sometimes, you know, just
- 40:32Speaker 5: because you know it feels good.
- 40:34Speaker 1: To me, there's a piece. There's a piece and the
- 40:37Speaker 1: sense of therapy.
- 40:38Speaker 4: There's how you know you're rich.
- 40:40Speaker 1: You know what that means.
- 40:45Speaker 5: Okay, I mean to shape But yeah, man, but yeah,
- 40:50Speaker 5: I love that ship Bro and the Hahamafia.
- 40:53Speaker 1: We still out there putting in work.
- 40:56Speaker 5: We're gonna be in matter of fact, we're gonna be
- 40:57Speaker 5: at timyth Te's in Oakland at the end of the month.
- 41:01Speaker 5: I believe what it is, the thirtieth, thirty first in
- 41:04Speaker 5: the first or something like that. We'll be out there, man,
- 41:09Speaker 5: outside right outside of Oakland. And you know, we ship Man,
- 41:13Speaker 5: We're still tear down. We're still tear down stages and
- 41:16Speaker 5: ship I'm gonna put together. I'm gonna put together a
- 41:20Speaker 5: time to do my special.
- 41:22Speaker 4: I'm gonna do a gonna be the one man show.
- 41:24Speaker 1: You gonna be Cavity, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
- 41:28Speaker 5: And uh, we just shot fifteen episodes of a stand
- 41:31Speaker 5: up a stand up series which is sort of like uh,
- 41:36Speaker 5: you know, death Comedy Jam or so on and so forth.
- 41:39Speaker 5: It's called Haihai Mafia in the Trap and uh we
- 41:43Speaker 5: filnded it at the Trap Music Museum and it's like
- 41:47Speaker 5: a host with three comedians probably about thirty minute episode.
- 41:53Speaker 5: We did fifteen of them, you feel men. We shot
- 41:55Speaker 5: that independently. So oh we all so have departments on
- 42:01Speaker 5: All Black, Yeah, I mean that.
- 42:03Speaker 1: We wrote it, directed, it, produced.
- 42:08Speaker 5: Myself, DC, Young Fly, Little Duval, Kylo Miller, and the
- 42:12Speaker 5: Haa Mafia, about to do the sequel, about to do
- 42:17Speaker 5: the sequel later on this year, and also in pre
- 42:20Speaker 5: production for a romantic comedy that that that we wrote
- 42:26Speaker 5: and I will direct and me and Terrence J. Will
- 42:29Speaker 5: produce it as starr in it. It's called Situationships. So
- 42:39Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. We're just trying to you know,
- 42:40Speaker 5: stay stage, stay working.
- 42:42Speaker 4: With the PSC album.
- 42:43Speaker 5: I thought yoke, Yeah, PSC were about to put some
- 42:46Speaker 5: ship out soon. Man, you know what, man like ay
- 42:49Speaker 5: with so many like the problem is we don't know
- 42:54Speaker 5: how many different partnerships we will have to support all
- 43:00Speaker 5: of these things, you know what I mean.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Like everybody like you know, everybody down to do it.
- 43:06Speaker 5: But ship we got to figure out to be in
- 43:08Speaker 5: the part of as far as okay, who were gonna
- 43:10Speaker 5: do it with? We know DJ Drama, We're gonna do
- 43:13Speaker 5: a gangster grill with him, and and we got you know,
- 43:18Speaker 5: some intentions to consider, uh some some opportunities.
- 43:24Speaker 1: In a situation. That's that's you know around DJ drama.
- 43:28Speaker 5: But I think you know, they got to get theirselfs
- 43:30Speaker 5: impact where they can present the right opportunity.
- 43:33Speaker 2: Oh, mommy, I'm getting up because we got some your
- 43:35Speaker 2: wife and your daughter here, So we got to.
- 43:37Speaker 4: The man you serious about to go? Yeah about the
- 43:43Speaker 4: wrap up? You can't tell me about the wrap up
- 43:46Speaker 4: all out your mind.
- 43:47Speaker 5: The high club when you say, like, mean they here already,
- 43:50Speaker 5: they come upstairs?
- 43:51Speaker 3: Okay, cool man. We can't end on this question. What
- 43:56Speaker 3: does success look like for your kids?
- 43:58Speaker 4: In your eyes?
- 44:00Speaker 5: The success look like for my kids and my doing
- 44:03Speaker 5: what they love and earning a living, like being able
- 44:08Speaker 5: to take care of themselves, doing the things that they love,
- 44:13Speaker 5: the things that fulfill their passion, you know what I mean,
- 44:18Speaker 5: allowing them to follow their dreams and just create, you know,
- 44:23Speaker 5: to create from their minds things that that earn profit
- 44:29Speaker 5: for them. You know, that's to me, that's that's ass
- 44:34Speaker 5: on any level. You know, not being forced to do
- 44:38Speaker 5: something that you really don't want to.
- 44:40Speaker 1: Do just to get paid, just to feed yourself, you
- 44:44Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's success on any level. All right, Well,
- 44:48Speaker 1: let's get into the record. I thought they was upstairs.
- 44:51Speaker 2: Do you have that problem a lot when they say
- 44:52Speaker 2: they're ready, but they.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Only the worst the weed.
- 45:00Speaker 7: Man right outside.
- 45:05Speaker 1: You've seen it. Damn try to set up, they say,
- 45:12Speaker 1: trying to set up. I guess they live.
- 45:13Speaker 4: But alright, let's get along live O. G clay Man.
- 45:15Speaker 5: Yeah, and thanks for the support man, you know what
- 45:18Speaker 5: I mean, everybody who's been supporting it.
- 45:20Speaker 4: Uh.
- 45:21Speaker 5: You know, I think that this is one of probably
- 45:24Speaker 5: the most important record that we've dropped on Grand Hustle,
- 45:27Speaker 5: and we appreciate everybody man fucking.
- 45:29Speaker 1: With us with it. Uh.
- 45:31Speaker 5: And this is uh to celebrate the life and the
- 45:34Speaker 5: legacy of somebody incredibly important to me and incredibly important
- 45:37Speaker 5: to the careers of so many people from Atlanta in
- 45:41Speaker 5: this generation going into the next one. I so long
- 45:44Speaker 5: live O. G clay feature my partner NB, a young boy.
- 45:48Speaker 4: You did well.
- 45:48Speaker 1: They did arrive.
- 45:50Speaker 4: They did.
- 45:52Speaker 2: They did because they said eight minutes out. It was
- 45:54Speaker 2: like twenty t I was like, that's usually what happens.
- 45:58Speaker 4: Say you're worse than the weed man.
- 46:03Speaker 7: I'm getting better.
- 46:04Speaker 2: So how is it having a young all your kids
- 46:07Speaker 2: are in the music industry.
- 46:08Speaker 1: We asked you how you felt about it. How do
- 46:09Speaker 1: you feel about.
- 46:10Speaker 2: Having all your kids in the industry and you know
- 46:12Speaker 2: how this industry can be.
- 46:14Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I hate it for some just because
- 46:17Speaker 7: I mean it's scary. The rep game is scary, you
- 46:20Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. And I have a little wild
- 46:22Speaker 7: child too, so you know, I hate it for him,
- 46:25Speaker 7: but I know he loves it, and it's getting you know, music,
- 46:29Speaker 7: you know, evolving a lot, so I'm starting to really
- 46:31Speaker 7: really like it. But for her, I love it because
- 46:36Speaker 7: I'm watching her grow and go and get into her mold,
- 46:40Speaker 7: you know, and I'm helping her and we're grooming her.
- 46:43Speaker 7: She's you know, I'm taking her through all the steps
- 46:46Speaker 7: of artists development for sure, you know.
- 46:49Speaker 2: And she listening to all the kids listening because you know,
- 46:51Speaker 2: sometimes they don't want to listen.
- 46:52Speaker 4: To the parents.
- 46:52Speaker 2: They were like, I got this, ill figured it out
- 46:54Speaker 2: on my own.
- 46:54Speaker 7: So you know what, she listens. But sometimes she get
- 46:57Speaker 7: aggravated a little bit because I'm like, no again, do
- 47:00Speaker 7: it again. No, that wasn't right, And you know, so
- 47:02Speaker 7: I get somebody else. I put other people in place
- 47:04Speaker 7: to help her with a lot of that. So they
- 47:06Speaker 7: can do it, and they can go through it and
- 47:08Speaker 7: they know how to you know, baby her through it
- 47:11Speaker 7: a little better than me.
- 47:12Speaker 4: When they that young. How do you know that this
- 47:14Speaker 4: is something they really want to do and not just
- 47:15Speaker 4: the face.
- 47:16Speaker 7: Well, this is something that she started doing with me,
- 47:20Speaker 7: Like when she started like really singing. She was like two,
- 47:23Speaker 7: and I think I was doing like solo stuff and
- 47:26Speaker 7: she would go out and she would want to get
- 47:28Speaker 7: on the stage with me. So we started putting the
- 47:30Speaker 7: mic up with my background singers and she would be
- 47:33Speaker 7: back now singing. So after that, like when she got three,
- 47:36Speaker 7: she was really like wanted to go. She never wanted
- 47:39Speaker 7: to miss a stage moment. So it's something that she
- 47:41Speaker 7: actually wanted to do herself. I didn't really put her
- 47:44Speaker 7: in it.
- 47:45Speaker 4: Well, what is success for the for the kids look
- 47:48Speaker 4: like the U? Tanya? I asked Tip the same question.
- 47:49Speaker 4: But what is success for the kids look like to you?
- 47:53Speaker 7: Well, if they can be happy doing what they love
- 47:56Speaker 7: and just you know, reaching some of their goal those
- 48:00Speaker 7: are some of the things that they really want to
- 48:02Speaker 7: do and you know in what in this industry? Uh
- 48:06Speaker 7: in just being successful? You know, she may she says
- 48:09Speaker 7: she wanted to be an astronaut, to be an astronaut,
- 48:14Speaker 7: I love it.
- 48:15Speaker 2: Who's more annoying when it comes to making music? Is
- 48:17Speaker 2: Mommy and Daddy? More annoying?
- 48:23Speaker 1: Is she's looking at Daddy, she looking at momy, She's.
- 48:26Speaker 4: Thinking who she needs something for? She needs something from
- 48:29Speaker 4: it soon, you can say both.
- 48:32Speaker 6: Fifty sixty sixty forty on the suicide.
- 48:40Speaker 7: Sixty Mama probably me because she sees me doing more
- 48:46Speaker 7: music and dealing with her more, mostly with music. So
- 48:50Speaker 7: it's probably me.
- 48:51Speaker 4: Whose music do you like more? Mommy and Daddy? Some
- 48:56Speaker 4: tough questions?
- 48:57Speaker 6: Okay, so I have to go and because I don't
- 49:02Speaker 6: know a few songs.
- 49:06Speaker 1: That might be a good thing, that might be a
- 49:07Speaker 1: good thing.
- 49:07Speaker 4: Why does she only know a few songs?
- 49:09Speaker 3: You're introduced to the catalog NAT music.
- 49:13Speaker 7: Well, some of that language she has in there, it's
- 49:15Speaker 7: a little too early.
- 49:16Speaker 5: For it, but you know, it just doesn't apply to
- 49:18Speaker 5: her life, you know what I'm saying, not a lot
- 49:20Speaker 5: of it, but.
- 49:24Speaker 7: A lot of our language too. I mean, I guess
- 49:26Speaker 7: it doesn't it. You know, she loved too early too,
- 49:29Speaker 7: but she loves it all like she comes singing all
- 49:31Speaker 7: these songs that I never show her. She knows our
- 49:35Speaker 7: whole catalog songs. It's not single.
- 49:39Speaker 4: Just listen.
- 49:40Speaker 2: Do you get nervous at all when you're on stage
- 49:41Speaker 2: because you look so natural? Like it doesn't bother the effect,
- 49:43Speaker 2: you know, not at all, not scared at all.
- 49:49Speaker 7: No, Like when we have concert, she comes to me
- 49:52Speaker 7: and be like, am I going on stage? And I'm like,
- 49:54Speaker 7: I didn't. We didn't plan for that. And you know,
- 49:57Speaker 7: she's always wanted to be out there on stage.
- 50:00Speaker 4: You know when you're pushing it too hot.
- 50:01Speaker 7: I know when I'm pushing it too hot, because she'll
- 50:03Speaker 7: let me know, she'll get aggravated. But you know, we
- 50:06Speaker 7: may be in the middle of something like recording, and
- 50:09Speaker 7: you know, I might be like, do it again, do
- 50:11Speaker 7: it again, you know, and she'll get aggravated. But she's
- 50:14Speaker 7: gonna have to in order to get the best. We
- 50:16Speaker 7: gotta see you're doing it. So I may let her
- 50:18Speaker 7: take a break or something.
- 50:20Speaker 6: You know, you take a break for five minutes, five minutes?
- 50:25Speaker 4: How much time you need? How much time you need
- 50:27Speaker 4: to think?
- 50:31Speaker 1: Your mommy?
- 50:33Speaker 4: Yes, wow, you.
- 50:38Speaker 7: Said I was your favorite singer. Now you singing better
- 50:40Speaker 7: than me?
- 50:41Speaker 6: Okay, I know you my favorite singer.
- 50:45Speaker 3: Okay, what does success look like for you, young Harris,
- 50:56Speaker 3: what's your goals?
- 50:59Speaker 6: Just my this is to be smart and it is
- 51:07Speaker 6: to be smart and and be an astronaut and the
- 51:15Speaker 6: singer sing. I can sing to the alien, you can.
- 51:20Speaker 4: Sing to the That's right.
- 51:21Speaker 3: Well, just have fun, Just have fun and enjoy, enjoy
- 51:25Speaker 3: the process of all of this.
- 51:26Speaker 4: That's all. You live a blessed life, that's right.
- 51:29Speaker 2: Is there one thing that you want that mommy and
- 51:30Speaker 2: Daddy haven't gotten for you yet?
- 51:33Speaker 4: A spaceship?
- 51:39Speaker 1: Money, spaceship. It's the car, not a ship.
- 51:48Speaker 6: A ship goes goes, A spaceship goes up into the air.
- 51:52Speaker 6: A car stays down on the ground.
- 51:55Speaker 4: You're right, You're right. I was wrong. You're right, you pa.
- 52:00Speaker 5: Do you have anything that you want to tell them
- 52:02Speaker 5: about that you that you put out you know that
- 52:05Speaker 5: you want.
- 52:05Speaker 1: People to go and support.
- 52:09Speaker 5: Do you have a song or something that you that
- 52:12Speaker 5: you would like to keeple to go listen to?
- 52:15Speaker 1: Yes? What is it called?
- 52:16Speaker 6: It's called it? It's called be You.
- 52:22Speaker 4: It's called be You with band bands?
- 52:25Speaker 6: Yeah, with them and go listen to it. You can
- 52:29Speaker 6: listen to it on YouTube kids regularly, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music,
- 52:39Speaker 6: and everywhere else.
- 52:40Speaker 3: You want to Let's play it right now because you
- 52:42Speaker 3: want you want to introduce it. Let's play it one
- 52:43Speaker 3: hundred market. You're about to get played in one hundred
- 52:45Speaker 3: cities right now.
- 52:46Speaker 4: That's right.
- 52:46Speaker 2: So introduce it to the world. Tell them your name
- 52:49Speaker 2: and the name of the song, and let's go.
- 52:52Speaker 6: My name is Eris and the name of the song
- 52:55Speaker 6: is be You with with V.
- 52:59Speaker 1: That's on the Breakfast Club. And we appreciate you guys
- 53:01Speaker 1: from joining. That's thank you so much, so much.
- 53:04Speaker 3: Let's get in to the joint right now. It's the
- 53:05Speaker 3: Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that ass up Earth in
- 53:08Speaker 3: the morning. The Breakfast Club