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The Boys Are Back... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, pull up here, pull up, we got some
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  Speaker 1: guests in the building. Hi, everybody, it's the After Show podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Maddie Damon Power of Recovery, as teased, are here in
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  Speaker 1: the studio. What's up, gentlemen already know not much, Maddie.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at you right now, and I see you
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  Speaker 1: have a power of Hope sweatshirt on. Congrats on the
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  Speaker 1: grand opening that I was not invited to. But it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently he doesn't have social media. It's broken.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know we're not really welcome. Did you
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  Speaker 3: see that. I think there was several invice.
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  Speaker 1: No, I saw a post of everyone celebrating at the facility.
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  Speaker 2: So you didn't see the month and a half leading
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  Speaker 2: out to and.
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  Speaker 1: So you just don't follow us. And I had my
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  Speaker 1: blinders on it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So say that I wasn't paying attention, Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry I missed you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it looked amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: I think we are the ones who should be offended.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, I believe he just didn't show up.
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  Speaker 1: This is not true. See how it turned on you though,
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  Speaker 1: But also, when can I get a power of hope
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  Speaker 1: sweat I'm wearing my power of recovery.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you so fly in the flag man. We love that.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to bring one next month.
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  Speaker 1: I get a lot of compliments on this sweatshirt that
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  Speaker 1: that's a nice it's a really nice one. It fits
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  Speaker 1: me good. I have like three different ones. This one
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  Speaker 1: fits me the best, but the other ones are great.
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  Speaker 1: But I lost a little weight to the Okay, I've
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  Speaker 1: been working.
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  Speaker 5: Hard, guy, I haven't.
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  Speaker 3: Then pepsides, you look fine, you look great. No, dude,
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  Speaker 3: he's eating like a pig.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's disgusting. Well you would know, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: I'm by his side all the time. I got to
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  Speaker 3: feed him sloppy pizza and eating every day. He ate
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  Speaker 3: like a three and two foot subjest that it was wild.
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  Speaker 1: Are you okay? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well somebody gotta eat breakfast.
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  Speaker 1: Are you hitting the gym at least?
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  Speaker 3: Dude, you're breaking up with these headphones?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, dude, he's like you. He he's in conjunction. So
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  Speaker 3: if if if it's on, it's on, the eating's proper.
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  Speaker 3: The gym's like. But when it's not, he's like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna eat myself to death. And then hopefully make it
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  Speaker 3: to the gym next month.
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  Speaker 1: I fail that so much.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah over here, like I'm just saying, I look good.
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  Speaker 4: He lives on French fries and pizza.
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  Speaker 3: Still look good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We talked about your diet before. Damon, you're very
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  Speaker 1: similar to my son, who's eight years old. You basically
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  Speaker 1: eat like a child.
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  Speaker 3: I see, I see what you did that, and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not fighting it. I used to, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: used to be a very difficult subject for me, and
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  Speaker 3: Maddie would protect me, like you can't ask Damon about
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  Speaker 3: his food. He's embarrassed.
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  Speaker 1: And okay, how about this one? So uh, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he announced this at all. But Billy's son
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  Speaker 1: Alex Costa, who everyone most of the people are listening
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  Speaker 1: know he does consulting in the in the addiction community
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  Speaker 1: and does work with you guys on power recovery. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know about his diet or no?
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  Speaker 3: I don't you know. What I know is exactly like you.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, he's not had he never had meat, has
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  Speaker 1: never had steak, has never had any kind of chicken.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure he said me no straight Waidoh then yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you think you know somebody.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy. I was on I was on
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  Speaker 3: a zoom meeting with the other day. He's he's all
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  Speaker 3: of that going on, and he's drinking a giant bottle
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  Speaker 3: of Saratoga water like this, like two foot long bodilies
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  Speaker 3: like this. It was, yeah, I know, just like that.
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  Speaker 3: I made sure to let him know what he looked like, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you never had meat before, bro, Like.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's a serious it's a serious thing. When they
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  Speaker 1: were when they were he was a kid at Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 1: he would have a separate little table for himself and
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  Speaker 1: then have to like feed him different food. When he
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  Speaker 1: goes to restaurants, high end ones, he eats first. He's
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  Speaker 1: only ever had pizza, French fries, chicken fingers, bread.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds familiar.
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  Speaker 7: But I.
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  Speaker 3: Have a new best friend, haha, Maddie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on the outs with I always find myself
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  Speaker 4: on the outs.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, though, like we can this is one
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  Speaker 3: thing and you call it whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 3: But when we go somewhere, he can he I can
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  Speaker 3: sit down, I go to the bathroom, I can show
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  Speaker 3: up late, and he can order my whole meal phone.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he knows you, Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: know you can identify with this YouTube, Damon, but you
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  Speaker 1: Maddie with the food thing. So I feel like when
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  Speaker 1: I go off right, when I feel like I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: eat fucking ship food, this thing, this addiction kicks in,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to fucking eat myself to death,
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  Speaker 1: Like I want to eat until I hate myself, and
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  Speaker 1: then I do, and then I hate myself.
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  Speaker 4: I welcome and identify. I told said it in a
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  Speaker 4: meeting the other night. I can make anything unhealthy my
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  Speaker 4: sick brain. I can make broccoli unhealthy. I can use
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  Speaker 4: it to where it will hurts you.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, It's horrible, me too, me too. Imagine imagine
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  Speaker 1: living with me, my wife.
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  Speaker 4: It's my greatest strength and my greatest weakness is my
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  Speaker 4: disease of addiction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of a superpower, but it can
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  Speaker 1: also hold us back to That's how it is. If
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  Speaker 1: you allow it, if you allow it, if.
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  Speaker 2: You allow it, we now knowingly do that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the result, and I say, ah, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, We're going to do it to this date and
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  Speaker 4: then I'm gonna stop. And normally I can.
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  Speaker 2: I pretty much cut.
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  Speaker 1: It down Yeah, Well, we're continuously working on ourselves an
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  Speaker 1: incurable disease, as we've talked about many times on this podcast. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so Power of Hope is open. It's a a adolescent
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  Speaker 1: facility outpatient for you for you for mental health, yes right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and you obviously have Power of Recovery, which is addiction
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  Speaker 1: treatments for adults. While so you have the adults here
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  Speaker 1: and the kids here, but the kids is more for
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  Speaker 1: the mental.
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  Speaker 2: It is it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying to we're trying to help get into
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  Speaker 3: that with them before they stop the kind of stuff
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  Speaker 3: that him and I did, the self medication and all
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  Speaker 3: the other things. So we know there was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of underlying causes things that you know, him and I
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  Speaker 3: probably could have had someone talking to I'm sure you
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  Speaker 3: could added someone talking to us about before we went
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  Speaker 3: a little bit off the tracks. We want to try
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  Speaker 3: and you know, help get us out on that before
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  Speaker 3: anyone's going too far off the track.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The last time you were here, I think you
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  Speaker 1: were about to open. You had because when was the
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  Speaker 1: opening date recently?
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  Speaker 4: Right, it's been open probably about a month. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know the exact date.
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  Speaker 3: It's far closer to two months.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's been open two months.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just Jamie.
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  Speaker 8: I wanted to thank you for having the Power of
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  Speaker 8: Recovery guys on your show yesterday. I reached out and
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  Speaker 8: have a call with one of the therapists from Power
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  Speaker 8: of Hope today for my children. The teenagers need some
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  Speaker 8: support in that area, and I just appreciate all that
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  Speaker 8: they've done and I'm excited for this next chapter.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, Sarah, she's glowing.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing, man.
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  Speaker 2: That just made me feel good.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you to just Jamie and for letting us know that,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously to you justin we had I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: don't know. We just do what we do and you
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  Speaker 3: know it when it impacts people, it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of tumbling, man.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing about what you guys do, right,
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  Speaker 1: So obviously you know you've started this amazing thing from
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  Speaker 1: Power Recovery, not Power of Hope. You have tons of
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  Speaker 1: sober houses and all that stuff, and it's what you
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  Speaker 1: do for a living, right, that's what you do. But
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  Speaker 1: also the other side of his you're helping people, right,
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  Speaker 1: and so you must get that feeling over and over again.
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  Speaker 4: I wish it was more often than not with power.
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  Speaker 4: Hope you do get that feeling now more often than
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  Speaker 4: you don't. Like just hearing that woman there, it just
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  Speaker 4: made me feel some kind of way wow, dealing.
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  Speaker 2: With the other stuff.
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  Speaker 4: You know how the statistics are so like, you feel bad,
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  Speaker 4: you feel bad.
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  Speaker 1: What's the number, by the way, off the top of
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  Speaker 1: your head that make it compared that don't? Is there no.
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  Speaker 2: Idea, but sitting in this room, it's one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, if you really think of it, one hundred percent
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  Speaker 4: of us made it today today.
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  Speaker 5: Today.
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  Speaker 4: The best feeling is to watch somebody come in broken
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  Speaker 4: and empty and ashamed, and then you know how time goes.
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  Speaker 2: It's so fast.
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  Speaker 4: And then four years later you see the man or
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  Speaker 4: woman and they get their kids back, they have a job,
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  Speaker 4: they have their own living situation, and like they're just regular, normal,
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  Speaker 4: active members of society.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a tiny pot in that.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Yep, it's amazing. It's amazing. By the way, I
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  Speaker 1: really like the post you guys put up on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't see this, Maddy, did you see it? Damon
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  Speaker 1: of me? It went up on the Power of Recovery
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  Speaker 1: Instagram yesterday it's me on stage when I spoke to Boston,
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  Speaker 1: and it has the quote it was I Really. I
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of good feedback on that post, so
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  Speaker 1: thank you for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But recently, how about this, right? So recently, I had
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  Speaker 1: a best friend growing up that I used with. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and when I got clean, he didn't, So I had
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  Speaker 1: to separate myself because I kept relapsing with him. Childhood
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  Speaker 1: best friend, right, think about someone in your life.
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  Speaker 6: I have it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we have not been friends since I've seen
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  Speaker 1: him here or there, but he never got clean. Really sad, right.
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  Speaker 1: I love him to death and I'm still waiting for
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  Speaker 1: that day when he'll get clean. But when we were younger,
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  Speaker 1: growing up, he had a younger brother that was like
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  Speaker 1: five or six years younger, and the brother hated me
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  Speaker 1: because he blamed me for his older brother's addictions. He
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  Speaker 1: felt like I was the one taking him out. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I had a part in it, but obviously his
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  Speaker 1: own life, he chose to do whatever, so he always
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  Speaker 1: hated me. Okay. Now fast forward to about a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I wake up in the morning and
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  Speaker 1: I have a message on Facebook. I'm not friends with
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  Speaker 1: him on Facebook. But it comes in. I open it
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  Speaker 1: and it's from the brother, and the brother says, I
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  Speaker 1: remember you. I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you.
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  Speaker 1: I've always hated you. You're the biggest piece of shit.
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  Speaker 1: You owe me an apology all in caps, And so
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  Speaker 1: I open it and look at it, and I'm like, first
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  Speaker 1: reaction is anger. I'm like, this motherfucker, does he know
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  Speaker 1: who the fuck I am?
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  Speaker 3: Right now?
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  Speaker 1: And so then I get dressed and I'm thinking about
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  Speaker 1: I didn't respond yet. I'm thinking about what I'm gonna respond.
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  Speaker 1: So I drive all the way to work and I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about it's festering. And I get almost
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  Speaker 1: to work and then I start the recovery kicks in
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  Speaker 1: right the seeing the other side of things, the playing
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  Speaker 1: the tape through. And I thought to myself, what if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't know that I'm clean? Because my ego told
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  Speaker 1: me I'm the radio guy. How does he not know?
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  Speaker 1: And I go, but what if he does? And what
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  Speaker 1: if whatever? So I said, you know what, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: do the opposite. So I got here to work like
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  Speaker 1: three in the morning, and I wrote this message to him,
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  Speaker 1: and I go, hey, it's so good to hear from you.
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  Speaker 1: I hope things are well. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: know this about me, but I've been clean for seventeen
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  Speaker 1: years now. I have a family. I didn't think about
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  Speaker 1: where I work or anything. I just I have a family,
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  Speaker 1: and I just want to say I'm sorry for anything
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  Speaker 1: that I did in my past. Never meant to hurt you.
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  Speaker 1: And he wrote back instantly. He was up and he
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  Speaker 1: wrote back and he goes, oh my god, he goes,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for responding. I had no idea. I'm so
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  Speaker 1: proud of you. I didn't know you were clean. And
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  Speaker 1: he goes, just so you know, my dad's dying in
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  Speaker 1: the hospital and he only has a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: to live. So I'm really emotional right now. And you
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  Speaker 1: showed up on my Facebook. Dude lives in Canada, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even fucking live here, had no idea where I was.
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  Speaker 1: I popped up on it. He was probably he sent
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  Speaker 1: it home crying and upset, and I showed up on
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  Speaker 1: his people you may know, and he was like, fuck
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  Speaker 1: this kid, right, But that's the change in recovery, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's the step work. That's the work that we do. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Playing the tape through before the reaction. Does he know
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  Speaker 1: who I am? You know what I mean? I would
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  Speaker 1: have responded that way. Amazing.
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  Speaker 4: So two people in my life do that to me,
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  Speaker 4: Damon and my wife. When a bad text comes through,
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  Speaker 4: please put the phone down because instantly I want to
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  Speaker 4: spit best and I want to hurt that person and
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  Speaker 4: moralize them, and I want to win. Yep, you gotta
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  Speaker 4: have that pause. I never had it. Yeah, I do
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  Speaker 4: now way better. Damon's good at it. Damon processes everything
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  Speaker 4: to the point where it aggravates the shit out of it,
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm waiting for a fight. Yeah, and he's processing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, when's this kick going to kick?
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  Speaker 1: So you should have a rule, you too, right, madd
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  Speaker 1: You should have a rule where before you respond to anything,
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  Speaker 1: you run it by Damon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much the rule. It's already there. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he tried.
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  Speaker 5: I tried, but some of them slipped through the.
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  Speaker 3: I say to listen. I say, I'll go to him. Hey, dude,
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  Speaker 3: what's that going to get? He goes about twelve seconds
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  Speaker 3: of pure bliss and then I know it's trash after that,
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  Speaker 3: But for like twelve to fifteen seconds, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: feel fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it also knows that if he does do that,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be there to pick up the pieces, Damon.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes it's still hard for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna bulche it.
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  Speaker 1: Like I texted Damon on his birthday and then I
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  Speaker 1: texted them like a couple of days later, and I'm like, you, guys,
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  Speaker 1: good for coming in for the podcast. I just text
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  Speaker 1: Damon because Damon's the one that knows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Though, here we go, all right, let's say from the people.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I just listened to the podcast with the
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  Speaker 6: Power of Recovery. Guys, I've never been in recovery and
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  Speaker 6: I don't know anyone, but I very much enjoy listening
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  Speaker 6: to them. But this podcast, I realize you are a
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  Speaker 6: next level you, meaning Justin are a next level of crazy.
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  Speaker 6: So if you have your wife on, you definitely need
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  Speaker 6: to have her share how she deals with all of
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  Speaker 6: your ocdnis.
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  Speaker 3: Lol.
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  Speaker 6: Love listening, have a good day.
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  Speaker 1: Or we could have Maddie's wife on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you'll just have a competition of which one's more
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  Speaker 3: OCD between.
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  Speaker 2: Her and Justin.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there no not at.
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  Speaker 1: All this story, not even a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to. He has to slide the lint
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  Speaker 3: role in a specific direction for a certain amount of
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  Speaker 3: time on each shirt every few minutes.
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  Speaker 1: You're a clean freak.
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  Speaker 2: Not really, but I don't like.
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  Speaker 1: I like.
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  Speaker 3: Dude. You can't do that. You can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Buddy, It's okay you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I have my own corks. Damon probably has. Let's get Damon.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, let's get Katie down here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's she going to say? We all have stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on. Trust we trust me.
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  Speaker 7: By justin Hi, Damon, Hi, Maddie. I have a loved
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  Speaker 7: one in PHP and attending sober living and they have
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  Speaker 7: no job and no money. I am supporting them financially
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  Speaker 7: and it is becoming draining. And I was wondering if
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  Speaker 7: it is a good idea for this person to get
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  Speaker 7: a job while they're in this recovery process, or if
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  Speaker 7: they should just focus on recovery. I'm just not sure
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  Speaker 7: what to do anymore, and I would appreciate your guidance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, guidance man.
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  Speaker 5: Two sides to that, though, When you say, big guy one.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to rush somebody right back into the
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: forty hour work week stress them out any more than
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: they have to.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: But at some point they have responsibility.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: You know what they say for guys like us early on,
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: depending on where they are in the program and and
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, Like some of them are in patient
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: programs and they want to get what's called the get
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: well jump, where you might not like fly back into
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: your career if you were a career person or you
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: know it, we're in a high stress environment, but you
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: get something that will kind of help cover a little bit.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: You work in a little pot time job that you
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: know you can make a couple hundred bucks a week
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: to ease the burden on the family. But again, it's
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: like Maddie said, and like you're saying, justin there's a
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: lot to it because you've got to figure out where
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: they are in program, how much clean time they have,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: and how it's going to impact their recovery, because at
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: the end of it, you cannot do anything unless you
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: are clean and sober first.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Right social way, she said, he was in PHP sober living.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I know?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Sober living is.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: So it's essentially what we do, right, Like, so, Power
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: of Recovery is a PHP. It's it's it stands for
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: partial hospitalization. It's basically day treatment that you go to
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: for a few hours during the day and then you know,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: you live in in sober living.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, I got you. So he's in both. He
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: goes to a day program and then lives in sober living.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: It's just where he lives.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and what she's talking about is
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: is you know, sober living costs money. It's not something
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: like if you're in an inpatient program, all of it's
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: under one roof and it's and it's all covered right.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: When you go into an outpatient program and you go
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: into a separate sober living, you have to pay for
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: the sober living There's different scholarships and stuff available too.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: She should you know, if if if she's interested, we
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: can we might be able to help her out with
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: some more information to help figure out uh, you know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: a scholarship or something to help with the sober living
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: portion of it and stuff like that. So uh, she
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: can definitely give us a call, give me a call
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: and just call.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: The office ask for him and they'll get the message
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: What's the number, so uh for power They're gonna call
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: eight five seven five six seven six nights three seven.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: I can't help, but it's eight five seven fifty six.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Power call us over there. You know, just mentioned mentioned
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: the podcast, mentioned that you heard us on there and
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: you had some information trying to get some assistance for you.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Loved one asked an answer it it's called the get
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: well job. Usually said it was for me. I sold
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: whale watch tickets down by the aquarium. That was in
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: the Ryan Hush.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I sold sell by the sea show.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I did. I stood a little booth
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and sold whale whale watch tickets. That's what it was.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: A get well job.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Was it at least as summertime?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: It was? No, it wasn't actually well. No, it was
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: like fall, summer fall somewhere.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: That's not terrible in Boston.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not bad.
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: Hi, justin you're doing a great job on your podcast.
• 16:49
  Speaker 9: I love listening to your inspiration and your talks about addiction.
• 16:55
  Speaker 9: Wondering how you're going to talk to your kids about addiction.
• 16:57
  Speaker 9: Where you and your wife are, you know, recovering addicts.
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: How does that look for you? Like what advice can
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: you give to people parents who have you know, little children,
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: Our children are teens that might get influenced in that way. Thanks.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saved this question for when you guys were
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: in that you could answer. Good luck.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I'm the only one. I'm the only one I can
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: answer right now. I got I recently found some vape
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: and weed pens on in my kids my old.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Way, so damon. So people should know you have four kids?
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Are they fourteen? I hope I get this right? Fourteen, nine,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: five and four? Wow?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I think so this is the fourteen year old?
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope it's not nine year old?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Would hope?
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: So you know, it was a few weeks ago, some whatever,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: some weird thing happened. It was all the way it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: supposed to be, right, But it was discovered because my
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: phone was in a different room and I went into
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: my kids room and I found like he had stuffed
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: them somewhere, and I just happened upon it, and uh,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: you know, so I grabbed my wife. I talked to
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: her and it's it's scary, man, it's not easy. And
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: for me personally, I just went about it. I think
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: a little differently than than some people do. I wasn't
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: in the yelling, screaming I'm gonna beat my kid up
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: kind of mode. It was. It was just like, all right,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: here's the situation. What am I going to do? How
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: am I going to respond to it? And I had
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: a very calm and informative conversation with my wife and
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: and him and just told him, like, listen, dude, my
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: job is to protect you, and right now I got
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to protect you from yourself. You're not making good decisions.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I took away a lot of his freedom with having
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: a cell phone and being able to go out and
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: and you know, told him that we'd be monitoring stuff
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: and wanted to provide him as much information as I could.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Myself and my wife are both in recovery, so we
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: told him he's a little bit behind the eight ball
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: when it comes to stuff like this that you know, uh,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: he might be in a probably a potentially bad genetic
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: disposition being that where you know, everybody related to him
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: as a little bit of that in him. And and
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: then you know, I'll be honest with you. Is one
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: of the best things I could have done. Over the
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: next few weeks, I saw my son kind of return,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Like you know, he was a fourteen year ol kids
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: want to spend time around his family to begin with,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: but he would either be out on his bike all
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: afternoon after he got home from school, which is cool,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: but then he'd come home, go in his room, be
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: on his phone, come out for a meal, go back
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: to his room. We took all those things away from him,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: and now he's like participating. He's being a big brother again,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: he's a son. Like it's really it's really cool to watch.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: So I think it was an error in our ways
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: that we didn't know until it was probably a little
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: bit too late, and that you know, kind of maintaining
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: some boundaries with some different freedoms that he had and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: then when the conversation comes up, just inform and I'm like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I told myself, dude, no matter what y'all gonna you
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: could still have friends at school. He's in high school, Like,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's other kids with weed pens in there.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: There's there's other times he's gonna not be with us
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: that he's gonna have to make some decisions in those situations,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and and I'm hoping he has enough information and enough
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: way with all and strength to be able to to
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: make the right decision. And at the end of the day,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I don't honestly know if he's gonna be me either.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he could. But here's the thing, right, Like,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I think that one of the best things we can
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: do for our kids is to be present. But on
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the other hand, you know, you have four kids, if
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you have multiple kids, even one kid, the bustle of life,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're very busy, so you're
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: present for your kids, but you can't watch everything that
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: they do, you know. And that's that's why when you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: said that about maybe you should have done a better
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: job of, like whatever, catching it before it happened. You know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I understand that because you know, days go by, you
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, and like, you know, you just
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you try to keep track and then you know you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: can't always keep track of everything they're doing. But I
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to ask, Damon, does he know your story, you
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and your wife, your history? Yeah, how much of that
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: did you tell him?
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't really hide anything. I
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: don't think he knows specific details about about you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: all this stuff, but he definitely knows without a doubt.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: We have had conversations with them surrounding you know, our history,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: hour story, and you know, how could how could you
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: know how that could potentially impact him. And again he
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: was informed and it's all real recent. He went from
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you know, he never picked up a vape to to
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: you know, he had a vape and then he had
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: weed bends. So it's you know what I mean. It
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: was a quick transition for us, far faster than we
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: thought any of this stuff was was happening, was going
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: to happen.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: But you remember these days, those days being young at school,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: all all the kids.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: The difference is, I told him, I said, when I
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: was a kid, we used to have that. We stunk
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: like weed. We didn't have edibles, we didn't have weed pens.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: We didn't We had to make weed brownies in my
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: house to get edibles. Like there was no you know
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: what I mean. Like and I go ahead and try
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: and work that thing in a house where it's not allowed.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: But you guys are vote kids, right, Both went to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the vote in Wakefield.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure do.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I went to eleven schools in twelve nice los.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I graduated from the garage in Malden School in the basement.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: So my son is eight years old. I never I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: had no plans on talking to him about my past.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And for a couple more years, but Uh. Some kid
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: in the neighborhood showed him my news thing that they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: did on me, which was upsetting to me because you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it was nice. But he had some questions. So I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: had a conversation with him.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: That's how mine came out right around the same thing.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I never she had any My kids didn't know what
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I did for work, none of that stuff.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: They knew I helped people in houses. And then I
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: was on the That was the cover of the newspaper.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: They showed a picture of me strung out and the
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: picture of me clean.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: The writing said, nurse and a vicious heroin addiction.
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: Oh my god, what's jad Is he gonna die?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I know the picture. It's one of you.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: It's fantastic.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Now, like they know that, I don't go into detail
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: on anything I did. Now he's a little older and
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: he wants a couple like risky stories, So like between
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: me and Michelle, will tell him a couple of stories.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: But just like damon my two kids. I see the
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: isms all over.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the one more kids one?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: How about this one? You're doing something and not being
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: in the present.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: They want to be somewhere else.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: What's next?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: O're the worst, the worst.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: So, like I already see it, like it obviously scares
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: you to death. And if this woman calling in knows
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: little to nothing about addiction and this is what we
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: do and it's scaring us, imagine for a regular person.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: So my advice would be.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: It's just education, education, education.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Saturday night, he's sleeping out my phone rings, it's ten thirty.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: My son's thirteen. Here's the question, Dad, Yeah, painkiller is addictive.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I go, shit, yeah, And then I hear him tell
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: his buddy yelling I told you, I told you in
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: their research and his stuff, and tell them alcohols are drugs, right,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I go, yeah, drug?
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: He goes, I told you. I go, hey, he goes
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: what I go, so at sugar? Yeah, gony.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: So like he educated on the fact, knock on wood.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's done that yet. I know it's
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: a yet.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not stupid. None of us are stupid.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Kids are gonna experiment, and just because they're experimenting don't
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: mean they're gonna end up homeless on the street like us.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Three Yeah, dude, And that's what I'm saying too about
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: my kid. At the end of the day, I think
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: he's in a toughest spot than other kids. But you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: again diving in personally, I have a ton of nieces
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: and nephews and a bunch of my older nieces and nephews.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: They recreate, Yeah, man, they don't. They live professional lives
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and and good healthy lives. They get children they like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and they drink a little bit. They might smoke a little.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Week and alcohol were made for you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean. Like so, you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: but again some of that early intervention in the education.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: No matter what, at the end of the day, as
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: a parent, your kid is gonna be forced into some decisions.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: And the best you can do, I think it is,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you know, being present and then also you know, making
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: sure that they don't feel uncomfortable coming to talk to
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: you like they you can't, I don't think personally. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: want my children to be able to come tell me
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: anything in their worst or best situation. I want to
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: be their first phone call, you know what I mean. So,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: no matter what they don't like, oh my god, Dad's
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: gonna kill me, Oh my god, Ma's gonna come. I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: don't want any of my kids to think like that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I want them to know, no matter what they're dealing
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: with their parents. Are the safe place we do.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: We do the same thing.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, open communications.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I think he talks to my wife too much.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what do you say. We had lunch and
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: meet him and and and his wife and you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Michelle and his oldest and I was like, oh that
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: was yeah, that was that was fun.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: That was different because you're not used to coming from that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I don't talk to my parents.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, he's the kids, he's had kids. Mini
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Maddie though, Dude, he's cracking jokes. He's he could wind
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: up being a stand up comedian and as a team dude,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: justin hilarious.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Dude, is it interesting that you and your wife both
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: in recovery? Dame and your wife both in recovery? Me
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and my wife?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that crazy?
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Well, you go back to the statistics.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I think all statistics are bullshit because that's not supposed
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: to last either.
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So now it's sitting in this room. There's three of
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: us now the taro left.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all three of clean today. All three have successful relationships.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: So what bat in a thousand in this wild true?
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Oh speaking? Which can we are we allowed to mention
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: that the missus got uh oh got one twenty one
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: years imagine?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Oh really wait hold let me do the math here. Okay,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So I was in a sola house with with Maddie's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: wife twenty one years.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Can we talk? Can we unpack that? Or don't know that?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: So?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was two thousand and five, we were
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in the house together. Yeah, so I was in Okay, So.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: So one of your stayed clean?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so I was in jail. I got paroled
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: out to the Kingston House, which had a shelter.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Oh that's my spot case. Yeah, I love that place.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So then I was looking for solo houses to go in,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and in my head I was like, oh, I have
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to go to the Link House or these houses that
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: were they had long waiting lists and you couldn't get
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: into right, And the only one that got accepted to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: was the Ryan House, which is on Green Show and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: not in the best area, right, but it was a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: co head house house. So I thought I'm gonna go.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: So I went and it did work for me. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: did stay clean for a little while after that. But
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: when I went there, Michelle, who was Maddie's wife, was
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: there and she had been there for like three or
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: four months and she fucking ran the house.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: No, she was not a surprise, dude, she changed.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: It was insane, Like I don't even like, no one
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: fucked with her.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: She does not play when it comes to recovery. And
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and that dude she's literally with me and him would
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: just look up at her like, oh my god, like wow,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Like I get.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: To take my hat off to her when it comes
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: to the recovery stuff. You know how we veer off
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: course every now and then, and you have recovery to
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: a roller coaster.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: She don't know.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't miss noticeable.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: She's the adult in relationships. She's the adult for all
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: of us.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And she's also a fitness nut.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable dude.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I follow on Instagram, Like she's in the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: gym every morning, four am routine. Then she does a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: walk later on in the day.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, I got a I got one hundreds. And she
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: can suppressed Maddie right now.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Oh definitely.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: No, she's like for the people listening right now when
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I say she's like, she's fucking ripped, just say what right, damon, dude,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: she is.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: She's it's you know, not to get a little you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: uh hair, nothing, but she looks good.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: He's about to step over.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, she she does a lot of
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: work on her body.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: She's beautiful. She's beautiful, but from a fitness standpoint. And
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I did see yesterday. I think she was mail prepping
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Maddie all of our meals. Yeahs, subs.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: She would dude in a happy she'd jump right in
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: and dude, don't get me wrong, he'll do it himself.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: She would do it too. But when he's ready, he's ready,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: and he does it, but she doesn't. There's no what
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: he's doing right, there's no what any of the three
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: of us of like, oh, I'm having like an off
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: day with this. She's like, no, I'm having an off day.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do more of this to make my
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: to get better quicker.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: She has her cheatmails and stops and then that's it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: She's very controlled, very very focused. Yeah, dialed in, I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: will say though that. So that was in two thousand
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and five. She stayed clean. I ended up relapsing. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: got clean in two thousand and eight, but I didn't
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: see Michelle obviously. Now when I was in the Ryan
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: House with her, we know we weren't working out or whatever. Right,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much she was in the fitness
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: back then. I mean you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Were still a little unhealthy back then.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was very unhealthy. But for her, I didn't
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: see her for many years after. And then what happened
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: was years ago, like probably four or five years ago.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: A friend of mine goes, remember Michelle from Ryan House
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: because he was there too. I go, yeah. He goes,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: have you seen her lately? Because she married to Maddie Powers,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, really pulled out the picture and showed me.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like ripped.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I'm a lucky guy.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: You're a lucky guy, Maddie.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like people showing pictures of your wife.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: See how he steps over them.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, because she looks good to relax brow.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: He's talking about but I like to look because I'm
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: into fitness.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and gonna kill us.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: All all right? So Power Recovery dot org for addiction stuff, right,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: power of Hope.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: It's power of Hope. M a dot com?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Oh don't forget the dot com?
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Why I you'd be that's out of my pay range?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Who designs that?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I I think she just left. Oh, honestly, I think, dude, honestly,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: if you want to know the truth, when when we stopped,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: we had no idea what we were doing when we
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: started Power for Recovery, dude, so we just like, oh,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: we need a dot org. Like we didn't know, dude.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: We just so one said, dude, dot org, and so
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: we did dot org.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I don't even know that. I don't even know it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: Wait, Matti, what's the Oh my hey, I swear to god,
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: he doesn't know the the the radio number, he doesn't
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: know the actual landline number isn't no.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: It's fine. I listen justin. It's a strange things. He's yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: because because he is like like the brains like so
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: it's tough to take that away. Like I have my
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: portion of the brains with stuff like remembering some things
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: and good with numbers like and a few other things
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: like that I'm really good at like other stuff he's
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: he's fantastic at too. It's really what's like the dynamic
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: for us is really what's worked over the years. It's crazy, dude,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: like he.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You guys are a great team.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: He got a great spell too much.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know my where Semi colon goes I don't know.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: No.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: And and just so you guys know, in the beginning,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the accounting that we did was Maddy would go, more
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: has to come in than goes out and we'll be fine.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: That is dow is our accounting its level to this day,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: my controller will go, I go, prove me wrong.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let this business survive if more goes out then
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: comes in.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I mean it is true, it is true.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But dude, honestly, I'll be honest with you, like
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: tip of the cat to the kid, Like he he spaces,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: he spends like every week and moment trying to figure
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: out how to like improve our system and to do
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: better and to do more for the people that are
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: coming in the building. So like, honestly, without that, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: we're nowhere. We're not Chelsea's house, We're not Power of
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: recovery're not powerful. None of that's going on without how
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: crazy his brain gets. It's frustrating at times because it's
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: like he'll at three in the morning he's texted me like, dude,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I just came up. I'm like, dude, go to bed,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Like what are you doing? But like you know, at
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know we're very fortunate
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and all the people, like he said, who's whose lives
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: we have a small touch and h super fortunate over
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: his craziness.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I told you that. My wife years ago told me
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that one day she goes you know, she works in
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: addiction recovery, and she said it's well known for her
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and the people that actually give a fuck that they
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: always refer to power of Recovery. That's the one, like
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: everyone knows them, trust them. Becau, there's a lot of
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: ship bags out.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, it's gross.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: We have our fault.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I can guarantee you there's not a better staff in
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: the business. The people we have treating our people working
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: with us. It makes us able to go out and
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: do odd jobs. Like I told you my sponsors.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I know I was gonna say, you hired your own Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: God damn right.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: But the truth man, when somebody says, who's treating my kid,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: the same person who's treating me, And I own the place,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: So if his treatment's good enough for me.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It'll be good enough for him.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right, you know.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Put your mind at ease. I know how people are
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: being treated right now. I know for a fact, So
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: I can come sit here and talk to you guys
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: game and can come sit here.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: We don't have to be over everybody's shoulder. We can
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: go do what we do.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's literally crazy, like every single person in
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the building, like from people that are like essentially quote
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: unquote doing just billing stuff, like clients walking to their
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: office and sit down and they wind up having like
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: a thirty minutes that they'll be sitting there at the
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: desk because they're having like a tough day, tough moment
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: and they connected with that person. And and we're so
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: fortunate to have those people working with us. Man, we're
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: just super us.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: It's funny because remember when I first came to visit
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and Revere to Power and it was before you you expanded,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and then you were like I remember you told me
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you like, yeah, we want to knock down this wall.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be all this flour over here. And then
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you did it. It's beautiful. So Power of Recovery is
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a day center, day treatment center located in Revere, right
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Damon Power Recovery dot org or what's the phone number.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: It's eight five seven five six seven six ninety three
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: seven or fifty six Powers.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So anybody struggling, needs help, doesn't know what to do,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: way to turn they can call yeah, okay. And then
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you also have the sober houses. Is that something you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: want to know?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, that's our baby, that's where we started.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how many do you own?
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Thirteen and either open beds always or there's so many
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: beds and there's rotations.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: People graduate and we get you right in.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Oh really we're full one percent of the time.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Marie Santos is a intake coordinated that she's a
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: general manager. She's phenomenal, but she keeps the flow going
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: with all the beds. So it's definitely where console have
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: an applications and a wait list. But like Maddy said,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: we have we have so many beds and his flips
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: throughout the week of people either graduating or unfortunately having
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: a restart the process that this beds open and she
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: manages it so well that you know, uh, we like
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: to have as much time as we can, but usually
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: within a week or two at the most, we have
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: somebody in a bed. And sometimes a lot of times.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: If you call that day, sometimes you're in a bed.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: Ye.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: What do they call for that? Is that the same number?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: No?
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: No, no, that one is seven eight one, six six
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: six three seven five fine ou.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Wait, so what numbers that?
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: That is Chelsea's house office number and I just happen
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: to remember it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: We take back everything we say.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: On let me do it again.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: That is seven eight one six six six three seven
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: five two.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you gotta be careful because five three is
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the fact.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And if you want it's Chelsea's house dot
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: com if you want to go, we have an application
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: process on there that you can do right online and
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: then you can call that phone number and talk to
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Mari direct. We should manage all of it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: And that's the sober living yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: In that and I'm not being conceited. I'm not I'm
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: not doooting my own horn. I can guarantee you for
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: a fact, they're the best sober homes and.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can, I can, I can back. I'm not
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: just saying that because you're on my podcast and like
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you know, we work together. That's well known in the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: recovery world in New England. Power of Recovery, Chelsea's House,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: two great places, Yeah, fantastic and then lastly Power of Hope.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So you know we had that woman asked a question
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: about she called about her kids teenagers. So this is
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: kind of out of my realm. So this is more
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: for parents whose kids are struggling with mental health stuff,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: right damon. And so if they need help for that,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: where do they go.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: They're going to go to Power of Hope m A
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: dot com.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Power of Hope m A dot com. Okay, and it
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: is a day center. Yeah, how does that work? So?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, let me give you a little brief quick
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: thing about that. So where is it? It's Massachusetts, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: so quickly like kids that are struggling, sometimes kids are
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: struggling to the point where they can't even be in school,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: and so they can come there for the full days
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: from nine in the morning till you know, we're open
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: till six pm. The other thing is in the state
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: of Massachusetts, if you get two hours of schooling and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: during the day, it's considered a full day. So for
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: parents that want to still have their kids take get
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: credit for the full day and still get some of
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: the assignments and some in person work, they can go
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: to school from nine to eleven thirty and then come
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: to us from twelve to six and then still for
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the parents that would prefer the kid do the entire
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: day at school from nine to say, two thirty. They
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: can still come over to us from three to six.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Ah, I got you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we get it all covered. Yeah, whatever, whatever
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: they need. We're just trying to source it to the
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: needs of each individual, just like any other call.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: You talk to the ladies over there and they will
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: figure something out.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's open, it's doing good.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Running, it's doing great. A lot of kids.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, what's the next power of.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It's something, but we'll really yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell me off the air and when it comes
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: all right, gentlemen, thank you so much. Congrats on everything,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: and we'll see you next month. Yes, we'll be Remember
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: if you have any questions or comments for the guys,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you can send them in. I will save them for January.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: When you come back in. You can leave it talk
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: back on the after show because sore the guys will
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: love to hear from You's my.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Favorite part of the show. So cool, right, don't be
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: scared to call them and ask questions.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, questions, comments, anything you have for the guys,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: send them in. I will talk tomorrow. What's tomorrow, Wednesday.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow is Wednesday, that's our anniversary twenty Yeah, twenty one years.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: You do something big for Michelle.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: We'll We're going to match Coach for Kids Drive and
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Revere Drift tomorrow.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, coach another thing I'm not invited to. Okay,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I go.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just it's eight o'click. It's like six or seven
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: at night. You're in bed, dude, Dude, I go to bed.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Seven.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: We're going to dinner and then we're going to Coach
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: with Kids.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Magin invited me to the anniversary.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Dame's coming to anniversary dinner with me and my wife.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Oh really, well you want you know, it's a work wife.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: He's like your work wife.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: That's what I am.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, bye everybody, Bye bye