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#22 - Yung Bleu · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: named Young Blue aka Blue Van Dross. This kid was
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  Speaker 1: somebody who I became really familiar with about a year
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  Speaker 1: ago or so, maybe like a little longer than that.
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  Speaker 1: It was signed a boozy and I watched his lad
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  Speaker 1: interview last year, and man, let me tell you something,
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  Speaker 1: I've come across in the game. Really just a nice kid. Man,
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  Speaker 1: who really dropped a lot of jewels in this interview.
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  Speaker 1: Not your run of the mill rapper, That's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago, rather recorded two weeks ago. And today the
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  Speaker 1: kid just dropped the record with Drake, you know what
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  Speaker 1: and the song came out today. So this was prior
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  Speaker 1: This was prior to him even knowing that, because I
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  Speaker 1: his record like three days ago. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: with Young Blue aka Blue van Dross and listen if
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  Speaker 1: you're like a boombap rap dude, because I know I
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of like those dudes that fuck with me,
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  Speaker 1: and listen to this pocket. Listen to this podcast anyway,
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  Speaker 1: because this shit is crazy. He's dope. Great conversation and
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  Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it. Yo, man boule Cap podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We got Young Blue Man aka Blue van Dross in
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  Speaker 1: the building right now. Man, let's get it. Welcome. Hey man.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta give you some props, man, because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you're one of the first artists that is that
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  Speaker 1: kind of this new wave is going on sonically. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you're one of the first artists. You've
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  Speaker 1: been doing the extremely melodic, you know, romantic thug shit
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  Speaker 1: for a very long time, and I know that that's
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  Speaker 1: like kind of catching on like real big you know,
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  Speaker 1: like guys like Rod a Way even like you know,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like you were one of the first
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  Speaker 1: dudes I heard that really really was like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: dude's like singing his ass off and like it's some
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  Speaker 1: it's some other ship, like I think P and B
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  Speaker 1: rocks in that conversation. But I definitely think like you're
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  Speaker 1: one of the early guys who like before the world
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  Speaker 1: that really before they really just too much understood it,
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  Speaker 1: Like they really understood the wave of that right then.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was it was, it was,
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  Speaker 1: it was hot in the streets, but like I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to get the major label to believe in that wave,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And they ain't really understanding
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  Speaker 1: at the time. So yeah, I'm sure that they wish
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  Speaker 1: they would have been understood it now. Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 1: saw you post the picture with two gold plaques. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm probably they probably went on my plating place now
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  Speaker 1: so independently, independently, man, Yeah, that's it's a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 1: Now help me, Okay, let's clear up this this this situation.
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  Speaker 1: I saw you just post that lad headline that was missing, right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So for people who don't know you originally were signed,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were introduced to you
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  Speaker 1: through Boozy Yeah yeah, yeah, right, you were on the
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  Speaker 1: the BooPac album and Boozie was he the first guy
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  Speaker 1: who really kind of like came in and co signed
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  Speaker 1: you as far as like oh yeah for sure and
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  Speaker 1: coming out of Alabama. I know boos is not from Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: but Boozy in the South is like fucking Jesus Christ
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  Speaker 1: himself for sure. So there was the headline had said
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  Speaker 1: that you were no longer with Boozy's label and you're
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  Speaker 1: with dream Chasers now, so and can you clear that
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  Speaker 1: whole situation up? Uh? Man, that situation was just a misunderstand.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't really like how the headline look because it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like on some switching teams type type stuff. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, uh, you know, just like the clip that
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  Speaker 1: he posted within Like if you read the story, it'll
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  Speaker 1: show you that I said that. I told that I
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  Speaker 1: came to Boosts. I was like, I ain't really like
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  Speaker 1: us rocking with Columbia no more because you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: they weren't really doing what I needed them to do
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  Speaker 1: for me, you know what I'm saying. So I was
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  Speaker 1: like we was joint venturing with them. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people don't know that, Like I was joint venture with
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  Speaker 1: me Boosy and Colombia Records like six months after I
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  Speaker 1: signed to him, so uh, you know, after about you know,
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  Speaker 1: some years. Just like I said, they ain't really understand
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  Speaker 1: the wave I had going on. So I just felt
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  Speaker 1: like it was best to just go independent. And when
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  Speaker 1: I say independent, you know boost label independent, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we independent, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to I ain't switched to when I
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  Speaker 1: say I got off the label, I'm always talking about Columbia. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Are you still sign the Boozies? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still signing the Bustle. We just amended some things,
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  Speaker 1: like after that codomb Be did we had to sit
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  Speaker 1: back doc. I was a bigger artist, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we amended some things, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I told him like kind of like my vision,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So no, I think that's dope too, Like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times, right, you signed that deal early
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  Speaker 1: with artists like you know, another artist and like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hey man, I'm at a different place now the fact
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  Speaker 1: and Boozie was opening that conversation, yeah, because it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like no, it wasn't it wasn't like saying, I'm at
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  Speaker 1: a different place now, I don't want to be signed
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  Speaker 1: to your label no more. Right, But like he could
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  Speaker 1: be asshole and be like, look you signed what you signed?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that tells you how real? How really of a motherfucker? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. So you know, we amended some things.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Booster still get his percentage, like just how
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  Speaker 1: the original contract set up. It's just that, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, owe my masters and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: and people and a lot of people don't know, like
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  Speaker 1: for that deal, it's a lot of business for that
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  Speaker 1: deal to get them in it. It's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: business I did, you know what I'm saying to to
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  Speaker 1: get that to that point. You know, it wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: I mean we we were good, we found but at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, like I gave up all my like
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent of my early masters during that time
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  Speaker 1: to be able to own a hundred percent of my
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  Speaker 1: few stuff, you know what I'm saying. So I gave
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  Speaker 1: a Booster like all the mix tape of stuff I
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  Speaker 1: drop with boos like yeah, he owned the message to
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  Speaker 1: those you know what I'm saying. So these essentially you said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you could have these Masters if you just let me
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  Speaker 1: move the way I want to move moving forward. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I had like three faux albums left with them.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like he could have said, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, No, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: my own these too, you know what I'm saying. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, you know what I'm saying, Like it
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  Speaker 1: was it was it was will it was willing to daling,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So no, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: I think you know there's with with you know, Kanye
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  Speaker 1: has been on his his ship lately with the cons
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  Speaker 1: of the Masters and just record deals, and I think
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: won't even let you do that, like you can't go.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think that's some real ship
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  Speaker 1: when it like if you think of like Boozy, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously you signed whatever you signed and for
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  Speaker 1: him to be like open to just like, hey man,
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  Speaker 1: look if you're obviously in a different place than when
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  Speaker 1: I met you, like let's move differently moving forward. And
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  Speaker 1: plus you know, like I said, the basic of the
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  Speaker 1: contract still the same. You know what I'm saying, It's
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  Speaker 1: just that you know what I'm saying I have you know,
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  Speaker 1: I could do what I want. You know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying basically, but you know he's still getting the same Now,
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  Speaker 1: like if I go over here, if I go sign
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  Speaker 1: with uh, if I want to go sign, if I
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  Speaker 1: go sign with Atlantic, and he's still getting here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the next album blow up and sell a million copies.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, he's still gonna get fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent of that. You know what I'm saying for the
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: same amount. Yeah, damn, he got the fifty yards because
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  Speaker 1: that's what was the original contract. I got you, I
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: got you, and you owe him three or four more albums.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So let me ask you this, then,
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  Speaker 1: what what because I know Meek fucks with you heavy,
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: what is the actual official affiliation so Meek the Meek
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: situation came about and also just the backtrack one one
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  Speaker 1: one thing like the me and Boost the situation. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's fifty percent of you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a profit participation. It's like you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Uh, you know I'm giving I'm giving you
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  Speaker 1: fifty percent because this was this was the original contract.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, in original contract then I couldn't have been
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  Speaker 1: able to go if somebody wanted to give me a
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  Speaker 1: million dollars over here. You know what I'm saying, I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have Technically I couldn't sign that deal, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But yeah, but now I can so
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like I gave up. I had to
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  Speaker 1: give up something to be able to yeah, because I
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: know I'm a drop Yeah, I'm gonna drop mold music.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna drop three or four projects in
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  Speaker 1: a year if you yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: But moving fast, moving fast forward. So we me and
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: him talked about the the meet situation, you know, meet team.
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  Speaker 1: Uh came to me, you know, sheaf Brian them over there.
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  Speaker 1: I think she the president of the Rock Nation. So
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: she came to me and it was just you know,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: laid out a situation on the table to where I
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: felt like at the time made sense. You know. It
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: was a management situation where she was just like, you know,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: we can help you with up you know what, I'm
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff of course, and it was like,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I looked it old. We talked about it
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of months. I went I flew down
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  Speaker 1: that meet with Meet and stuff. I talked about it
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  Speaker 1: with Booster. You know what I'm saying. He felt like
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  Speaker 1: it was you know what I'm saying, It'll be good
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  Speaker 1: because him and Meet good, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So that's for that situation where it wasn't like, no, oh,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Booster, you know what I'm saying, let me
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: go over here to meet. Nah. He was ain't like that.
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  Speaker 1: So Meek's team is management. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the
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  Speaker 1: part of the management. How did how did me like
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: what would you know, like what the original record was
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  Speaker 1: that like caught Meek's attention or that like him, I
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: think I think it was more of I think it
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  Speaker 1: was more a meat team. Like it was more a
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  Speaker 1: meat team, you know what I'm saying. Presented to Meet
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: and then they were like, Yo, this kid's moving, we
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: should work with him. Like yeah, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: I honestly don't. I honestly don't really too much know
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  Speaker 1: if you know, because Meet from a whole different you
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, hold other part of the country,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's too much just understand,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying my music so much as
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: a yet you feel me, But I feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I came in for what I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like his team, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: His team was present to me and what they could do.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ain't come to ride Meek
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  Speaker 1: Way ride his coat till you know what I came
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  Speaker 1: in for. I think that's just kind of a misunderstanding.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's like people just see it. People see
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  Speaker 1: a headline and that's what they go with. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So, yeah, it's important to carry
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: that shit out. So you're from Alabama, man, And Alabama
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: has really had a crazy like last like three or
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: four years where like you know, obviously back in the
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: day there was like doughe B and Yellow Wolf and
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: you know, guys like that, and then Yeah, Rich Boy,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: and then even before that, I think there was a
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: group called Dirty Got Dirty Boys. Yeah, Dirty was crazy
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: that the album covered with a guy a Snake. And
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: now it's like, man, one of the hot beds of
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: hip hop at the moment. I feel like it's like Alabama,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: it's obviously bad and ruge and it's Memphis, Like those
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: are the three cities that have kind of always kind
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: of been traditionally slept on. And now y'all got it
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: right now, Like what was it harder coming out of Alabama? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Because when I first started coming out of Alabama, like
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: I was the only one, so I had to try
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: to make the whole industry believe in Alabama. You know
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because you know that one I started
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: coming up right around the time like Dobe passed away,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was plus like
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: yellow Wolf was doing his own ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, it's definitely not the same you
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: know way. Yeah it was in like the the street,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: hip hop street. Yeah I'm going, you know, going to
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: interview them radio interviewing, and you know what I'm saying,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: just getting near body to try to believe in this
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Alabama by my way, and then wants to you know,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: the other people started coming up. You know, it was
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's it's efficient.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: So now it's like we got we got more. So
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: not everybody believe in it because it's just like you're
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: looking from a small city somewhere and one person, you
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, doing stuff from that city right
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: at that moment, and you just like, I don't know
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: if I should believe in it, you know what I'm saying.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's just looking and then it was you and
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: then like the mirror caught on. Yeah, you know. But
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the only thing the mill man, the mill won't really
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: ripping Alabama. He was snapping Alabama like that. So I
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: can't really, I can't really. Uh. I felt like that
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: came after he saw more people, you know what I'm saying,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: ripping it, and then you know what I'm saying, he
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: eventually you always need your stake, you feel me. Eventually
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna need it, you know, So you can't. Yeah,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: so you can't. Uh So yeah, that's how I feel.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: What is because I feel like, you know, the unfortunate
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: thing about Memphis and Baton Rouge that I've noticed is
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: like most of the major artists all have beef for
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: each other. Yeah is that? What's what's your relationship like
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: with your you know, some of your peers from Alabama
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of a lot of dudes man bubbling, Like,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: is everything pretty much solid or yeah. I mean, of
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: course it's it's always some screen stuff going on behind
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the scenes or the music. But like far as me
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: my situation, like everybody look at me as you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like really one of the founders of
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: that like Alabama New Generation definitely you know what I'm
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: saying type shit, So everybody really look up to me
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and respect me, Like don't you don't own beef for
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: nobody ain't got no smoke in the city, like everybody,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I miss float Millig cap rolloh uh, you know,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: everybody just just coming up out of Alabama, like I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: didn't even know was from Alabama. Mobile, like all of
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: all of all of the artists that's popping from Alabama
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: is from Mobile, Alabama, Like which is like I said
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: it that sh It's like it's like fucking North Florida, right,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's like yeah, because yeah every time, because
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I used to live in Tampa, so when I would drive, yeah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you would drive to Mobile. Yeah, so you're from Mobile, Yeah,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: from Mobile? And what is like the energy is there
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a big energy difference between like Birmingham and because I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: think people always associate Birmingham, Alabama with Alabama, Like, well,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I think we're real different though, Like you know what
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, we really different of course, you know what
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. They got their artists that's doing anything. You
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, is like a separation or is
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: it like yeah, we repp in the state or is
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it like yeah, I think I think it's I think
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: it's on some ship, like we rapping the state. You
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They got t L. Cinco, Little Soldier,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Out the type of artists,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, no bad blood. I feel
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: like everybody just ripping. Just glad. We got this wave
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: going on right now probably like a you know, we
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: got the most artist that's that that that's big, big
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: right now state. But I feel like eventually he's gonna
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: start even and not. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: like even like the do Clevers from Gadsen Like yeah, yeah, Clever, Yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Clever Cliver paper right now he's clever that boy too. Yeah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: shout out to Clever. So you're investment. You had the
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: mixtape series Investments, which I thought was a dope. Like
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like when people watch you on social media,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: they get a different messaging vibe from when they watch
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: most of these young artists in the game, because I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, a lot of type of these
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: new cats is like it's a lot of antics on
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the gram, Like I feel like your shit can be
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: inspirational for a lot of people. But investments. I know you,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you know you're smart with your bread. You learned, like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: like what are you doing during the pandemic and just
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: in general with your money that you don't think the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: average rapper in your position is doing, uh, through the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: whole pandemic. I've been building my house, like I got
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a state that I just built, So you know, that's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: what I've been pretty much the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: She she's a comed and told me she probably feel
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: going to label like in the next couple of days.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: So I got it. You gotta get home rid of s. Yeah.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: You're still in Alabama? No, no, No, I live in Mississippi. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: LuxI oh yeah, I heard that the tax is there
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a fire Like you don't got to pay state taxes
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: or something? No, I ain't. No, I heard that in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Texas you don't got to pay station Noah. It's great
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: if you can live bro in La. If you had
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a house here, you lived here, you'd be paying fucking
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: thirty percent. Yeah the brother let me in your fucking
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: pockets out here now. But but like, are you like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: investing in any sort of like outside of your own house,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: like any other stuff? Like Oh yeah, I got I mean,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I got a food truck. I got a restaurant. You
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that that picture of you
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: sitting on the top of a restaurant, that's your actual restaurant.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So your restaurant is called Young Blues. No, no, no,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it's kind that was before the rest of the sign came.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Okay mixtape cover guys, Young Blue Soul Food to see
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: food restaurant. You know it's really called Gwenn's House, Young
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Blue Soulfud. You got a food truck, the restaurant, what else?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, I do you know what I'm saying,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I do. It's just a lot a lot of different screens.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of different screens. And I got
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a tour bullet that I were out, uh when I'm
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: not on it, you know what I'm saying. So you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: got a tour bus, you ran out, You're in the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: food truck space. You got the restaurant, are you first
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of all? Salute? Yes? So most artists are like, yo,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: let me go get a may back. Here's all of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: my advance. Oh yeah, I got. I had got that
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: out the way when I was when I was young,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: before I even signed the getting money for shows, I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: had you got you got the dumb ship out the way? Yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I got that. I was glad I got that at
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the Yeah. Yeah, yeah, because otherwise you're, you know, you're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you're like leveraging your ship in a bad way. But no,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: so what about like have you tapped in with like
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the stock market at all, or any like the crypto
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: ship or I've been I've been testing it at like
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: livet here littt. That's just trying to get a feel
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for But it's just so much stuff going on with
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: this scamming and stuff like, oh my god, it's like
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I'd be scared when they come to me about I'd
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: be like anytime someone hit you and says, hey, can
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you use an extra ten grand right now, say no, yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: because they're just scamming the fucking I don't really think
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I'm too much into the stop marker right now. It's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: too much of it's too much anyway. You don't like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to gamble, No, I don't like the gamble. I respect
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that you got to keep your money. What is the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: hardest thing you've learned about being in the restaurant business,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: because I know it's a really hard business to like succeeding.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: They we always see restaurants coming and going all the time.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah we ship, Yeah we ship done right now because
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of this COVID stuff. So we're gonna get ready to
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: come back up. I'm gonna get ready to turn it
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to a club or hook a lounge. But uh, the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: best thing I learned for real is just that it's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: just I ain't never really make no money for my restaurant,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I it was just
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: open just for me, Like it was just it was
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: it was lit. It was like we made a lot
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of money, but it was so much overhead that you
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: ain't really see a lot of money. So you like
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you ain't it ain't no going into the account. Oh
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the ten thousand, go do that, you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Probably like if you touch that,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: like you might not be able to pay the dells
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: next monthing. Yeah, you feel me, even though they had
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a little because you know, I'm an artist, so I
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of times I just come out of my pocket.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: But when I started coming out of my pocket, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, at first, I was just breaking even.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I probably making a little money, you know what I'm saying,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: probably house or too, you know what I'm saying. But
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I was satisfied with that because I was like, at
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: least we you know what I'm saying, money, yeah, you
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, or at least I just wanted
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to have a restaurant, like just something in my city.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It ain't metter if I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: was just breaking even, because I really really doing it
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: for the profit. Yeah. So but yeah, once I started
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to come out of my pocket, you know what I'm saying.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Then we was only business like three months before the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: COVID hit. We were doing good for the COVID hit,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So we was real fragile, you know what I'm saying.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: So that was just the worst time. People started catching
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: COVID up in the like all the workers stuff just
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: this is this is this is in mobile. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: so I had to Yeah, I had, I had to
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: shut it down, and then once I shut it down,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: people about new jobs and that's a whole lot of stuff.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm just remodeling it right now. Yeah. I feel
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like I've heard though that Alabama uh being the crazy
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: right wing redneck state that it is. Most people don't
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: even act like the COVID shit is real down there.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: My boy was down there for Labor Day and he
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: was like, nobody's wearing masks. They definitely like, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: they they they weird down there. But I had this
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: thing called Blue Bash that I was throwing down. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: had everybody on it, like you know what I'm saying
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: for the two uh free birthday. Yeah yeah, no, it
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was for my album release part, but you just was
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that recently. Yeah, But I did. I end up doing
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a little show because they canceled. It was supposed to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: be a lad of people stadium. I had like twenty artists,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: P and b Rock. I hate everybody in the game.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: They really black youngster blucha everybody. They missed with me
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: for real the COVID shit. Yeah, but they came back
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and start throwing football games at the same place, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, so that was like a big thing with
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the news and stuff. They was trying to get me
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to get political on and stuff like that. But I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: really wanted too much do it right then because I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: know I'm gonn want to throw it again, and I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: want to throw it. You know what I'm saying. I
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: ain't really want to stir up. I know I could
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: have stirred. You don't want to stir it up because
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it might funk up, like next year if you want
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to do it at the same place. Yeah, I felt
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: like I was just gonna let them have it because
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the COVID you know what I'm saying, the COVID stuff.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's probably would have been
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: hard for me to win against that. What fucking where
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is the University of Alabama? The university that's a yo.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's like college football, like it's big and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: mobile as it is, like because it's like a it's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like religion down there. Bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's Alabama,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Alabama or roll Tide bro. Yeah. SEC football is like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: a religion. Now, it's insane. It's the whole state just
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: like roll tiede like banging that or is there most
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: people in Alabama yeah, Alabama, ARBN, Alabama. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the COVID ship is crazy. But I do know in
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the South they're a little like, uh more liberal with
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: not wearing masks. And you know, did you happen to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: watch the presidential debate yesterday? Uh? Yeah, I was watching
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the live it on Twitter. Yeah, what do you what
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: do you think of the elect I mean, you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you're a smart guy, man. What are your thoughts on
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the election and and where the fuck our world is
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: currently at? I think I think you know what I'm saying.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Just watching it, I feel like you know what I'm saying.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Biden was making up way more valid points. I just
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I just felt the more caring vibe from from Biden
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: than than Trump. Like Trump just like don't give a fuck,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: don't don't give a fuck. You know, it was like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the six nine of fucking politics. Bro. He just will
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: say whatever the fuck like you like, it don't matter
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: if it's true, Like he's just throwing ship at the wall. Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you feel me. So I feel like, if if I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: had to vote, I'll probably vote Biden just because like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: he's like, because he's not an insane racist. Yeah, just
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't do. I can't do. Have you
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: have you ever voted? Nope? You plan on voting? Uh? Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I do plan on vote. Like you know what I'm
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: saying one day. You know what I'm saying. Look, we
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: got a month, man, you better registered. Go get go,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: get that Alabama voting and that's a that's a red state.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I probably ill probably vote. Yeah you should. Man.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say no because I feel like
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: people gonna follow me and not vote. Listen, bro, at
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, that people will find if
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: people fucking hate you, they'll watch this and find five
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: minutes that that they can It just is what it is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: There's miserable motherfuckers. It's it's unfortunate I have, you know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: being as somebody. You know, it's crazy because like I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: said earlier, like I feel like people know you for
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: your music period and not for like, oh this guy
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: was beefing or this guy was fucking on Instagram, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: flashing guns, and like I feel like your music is
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: what is like like and and I think that's why
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you're what you're going on like your fifth year in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: this shit right, Like that's already longevity and that's crazy
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to say, but if you see the way artists come
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and go, dude, like people can't last two years out
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: here before their shit is like a rap and you
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: haven't even sniffed like commercial success like you have, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like you're not even your shit is really underground, like
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: for like obviously for being someone who's got plaques. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I know. I understand what you're saying perfectly because I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think about it all
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the time, you know, but I just I just know
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like when that moment come is gonna be huge because
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I put so much groundwork in, Like it's nothing gonna
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: be like it came from overnight. You know what I'm saying,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: People just gonna be like just getting on him like
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: yeah he been he been doing this like he been had.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Local hits, regional hits, not
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: mainstream hits. So I feel like that's that that that's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: way better because they don't take nothing but one year
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: turnaround to you know what I'm saying, to for real
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to and uh, I think the situation I'm in now,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's gonna be way better
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for me because I got you know, Uh, I feel
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like I'm, like I said, I'm a student of the gang.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So I I just learned, I learned everything. I got
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: my money right, you know what I'm saying. So it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be a whole new and I could move when
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I want to, you know what I'm saying. Gotta wait
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: on nobody, So it's gonna be a whole different What
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: was the gift in the Curse? Because we always hear
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: about like signing the other artists, and I do think
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Boozie doesn't get enough respect as a CEO. You know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: his label's doing this thing. But what was the gift
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: in the Curse being signed to another artist? Uh? I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: say the I mean it really would. I feel like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: it's all on the artist. You know what I'm saying.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It's all on the artist. Like it's on it's about
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: how hard case by case situation. Yeah, you know what
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because it's like somebody can sign you to
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: they labeled, you could be the biggest artists in the world,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And but what you're gonna
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: do once you get signed that, you know, I think
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that's where a lot of people make a mistake is
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: they sign and then they're like okay, then they just
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: wait on them. And that's what as opposed to like, no,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: now you got to roll your sleeves up, you hit
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: down and really get to work. Yeah, because you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you can't depend on nobody for your own ship ever,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: control your own destination. And most of the time the artists,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you know, they had their own stuff going on too,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: so it's like they can't. They probably could be focused
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: on you, but they ain't gonna always be focused on you.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So the time that they not, they probably be working
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: on the alb or they probably got some person stuff
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: going on that they can't really give out their time
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to you. So you gotta roll up your sleeves and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: turn up. So that was the thing that was different
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: from me, Like when I got in your hand, Yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like you know, I took that coat sign and ran
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and did my thing. So
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: like if you ain't really got that in you, then
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you're probably just gonna, you know what I'm saying, just
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: beyond be yonder them. Like I won't really around boost
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: It like I used to be around boost It and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I still be around him, but I just went like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: around him every day, like I used to go do
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: my own stuff, you know what saying, make my own
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: name for myself. And then came back and like, yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, talk about what you've learned
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: from Boozie because we were talking earlier and I was like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you were told me you were shooting a video in
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: La and I was like, well, he was the artist,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and you were like, you know somebody who just bagged
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you out. Yeah, And you know, I know Boozy whatever
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: city he's in, Yeah, he's pull up, have your money right,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and you get in the verse and you were saying
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that you kind of do something similar, and I, you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a couple of ways to look
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: at that. I think some people might be like, you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: might water down your value, but at the same time,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like you're an independent artist and you don't know if
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: this is as good as it's gonna get. Yeah, so
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you might as well get every bag you can right now. Yeah,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I used to worry about like yah,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Booster kind of taught me that, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I used to worry about how it would look, you
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying if I posted this or I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: posted that, But I mean, you gotta look at it
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: like people gonna talk regardless, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Like and then and my point of view is like, yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: people gonna talk regardless, so you might as well get it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Why because when it's over with, what's your run over with?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Gonna you know what I'm saying, Give every dollar you
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: can off your name while it's hot, you know what
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because when it's not hot, people ain't gonna care.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: People ain't gonna care what you guess what if I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: go do, if I go post I'm doing features right now,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and like the next week I post that I made
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: one hundred k off features, give everybody saying give with
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: everybody saying you know what I'm saying, everybody, you know
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Co signing that like people want to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: do that, you know what I'm saying. So it ain't
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: no bad thing, bro, Like people gonna talk regardless. Man,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: get your coins. Say if you put in all these
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: years of work. I saw quote today was like, you
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It probably takes me thirty minute
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to do a job right now and make all this money,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: but the years and years that I put in before that,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you ain't see that, you know what I'm saying. So
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you're paying me for them years. You feel you ain't
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: paying me for this thirty minutes I came to the studio.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: You're paying me for all to get that. And then plus,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: like I said, Bro, you know what I'm saying. I know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I know people do way more. But like I said,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I screamed thirty million screams every too much. You know
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I deserve it, you feel me?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: So what do you respect? Let's say somebody you know
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: who you don't know, maybe you don't fuck with the song.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Let's say the song is trash and you're in fucking
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. What is that? What is the what
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: is the uh? What if I if I want to hook?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: What's that cost? Uh? Man, it's not like that this
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: is trash. Let's say he's a juggler, he's an ICP
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: guy like man, like my price is my price? I
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: mean most times if the song trads, I personally think
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the song trade. You know what I'm saying, I just
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: make my port hard. You're just gonna I guess you're
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: gonna fast forward to my part. You know what I'm saying.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: You're gonna listen to the whole song for my part.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: You feel me if the song traded. But like I said,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: it's so many fans out there, people who like all
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: type of music. Bro, it could be trash to me,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: but if somebody don't like it, you feel you gotta
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: listen to what people listen to. Okay, So what's give
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: me the menu? Man? What's the hook? What's the hook? MANU?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: It's just it just it just depends like right now,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: like for like for a hook, like if I'm if
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm probably in the city, or I'll probably try like
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand because I know my hook's good. You know
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I know, I mean I feel like
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna get something from you that you get
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the hook. Yeah, you feel me? Yeah, So you know
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But a lot of times like I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: do versus like for for ten, if I'm in the city,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or you know, sometimes then
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: want the verse in the video, I get like a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: twin and make a quick twin. So like I and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that's how just doing that I ain't really never really
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: did features a lot like that. So when I went,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: cause I couldn't really clear my own music, and people
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: have a problem getting clear when I was on the label.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So when I got independent, everybody or wording because people
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: know I make good music. They know they gonna get
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, some good stuff out of me,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and they know I've been around for a long time
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm respected in it, so people be paying it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: That's how you know I could I can go if
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I really want to say, all right, I'm gonna get
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: on my tour bus and I'm gonna leave for two weeks.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to full different cities. You know
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I know I can make one hundred
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand, you know what I'm saying, just off
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: creatures and features in videos. You know what I'm saying.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: All that money, like not for nothing is straight cash. Yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and I be you know what I'm saying, And I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: just I go and just cause, like I said, my
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: life already set up like I on my house house Yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: so I just really put it all back and mute,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: like I probably want to go do some promotion promotion wise,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's the sweet thing
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: about being independent on because so if you get a billboard,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you are you paying for that out of your own pocket? Yeah?
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I mean like I'm I got I got a situational
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: empire right now, but out to Gazi and Nima, yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the people, So right now, I'm the type of artist
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that I already know it's death, so I spend it myself.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I know, I know it's there, you know what I'm saying.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And even if you know, even if I is ost
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to that budget, I still go spend it myself. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: just believe in my stuff so much. And then I'm
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the type of artist where like I really enjoy being
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: on the road people knowing my music going, So I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: invest in myself. You know what I'm saying, I go,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Do this me ask you
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: this as somebody who has been you know, obviously I
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people knew about the Columbia's involvement. Yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: but would you advise artists to take a big advance
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: when they do U sign a deal or do any
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: sort of distribution or would you ad like because you
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: know at the end of the day, you got to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: pay that money back two times, Yeah, to break even
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on it. For the most part, would you advise somebody
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to take a big bag because I think a lot
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of people are like, Yo, I signed this million dollar deal,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: but it's like, what is it worth you like taking
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that up front money to just like yeah, you could
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: or you could just get the monthly. Yeah. It depends
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: on your situation at the moment though, Like you know
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you are if you're coming like right now,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: if somebody come off with me a million dollars right
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: now for a record deal, I know I'm not gonna
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: take it because you could do that. Yeah, because I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: see the amount of money I'm making. I see you
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that what I'm getting from the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: people that I'm messing with right now without even having
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to commit so much. You know what I'm saying, do
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: something with Empire. You could do whatever you want. Yeah,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you feel me. So it's like, if you really know
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the game, somebody like Empire is gonna be you bis bit.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: And I ain't just saying it, come and sign if
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you know the game, because like I said, I say,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that's every inter you if you just do watch your
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: time a major. I wouldn't say never signed to a
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: mage label if that's what it takes to get on
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: your feet, as artists do that. Sometimes you gotta do
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Yeah, do what you gotta do.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: But while you in that deal, be listening, learning what
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: they do, making the connections that you know what I'm saying,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: when you meet people, don't just you know what I'm saying,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: really meet people. Like when you meet people, they be
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: introducing you or you be around the people that they
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: hiring to do this stuff. So if you meet them people,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: once you do go independent, you got a good relationship.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: You're kind of having an idea of an infrastructure, you
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And a lot of times they
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: gonna charge you way cheaper than what they Hey, what
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you just said is like a lost r form in
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the music game. And that's these like I mean, I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: see as like being on the radio side, Like you'll
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: meet an artist and you'll be like, damn, that dude
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: does not want to be here, Like he's like a dick,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Like you could tell you just like you know, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: and and the thing is is like that's fine, but
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: like building like genuine relationships and like like you said,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: when you meet somebody like net him, don't feel like yo,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: what's up? Yeah? You know feel me because you never
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like you You never know when you might. You know
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It probably be a It probably be
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a little reporter that was like you probably go somewhere.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: You probably had an intern in here. You know what
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, five years, who could that be? Yeah? Yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the intern can be somebody or their intern can be he.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: He could be the lead writer for this person. That
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: happen all the time. I mean I used to. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: was an intern for two years working for free. It's like,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and they gonna remember if you you know, they gonna
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: remember if you know what I'm saying, how respectful of
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: an artist you was. You know what I'm saying, that
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: they genuinely fucked with you when they when they met
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you type stuff like that. So I'll be keeping all
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: out of mind like when I meet people. You know
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I actually I genuinely fuck with people.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: So uh, I feel like just throughout my career, like
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: every everybody that I met, like I mest sure that
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: rolled it out and I was signed with Columbia. You
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We just spoke briefly and stuff
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: like that. But uh, you know, once I got independent,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you know what, I still had the relationships to be
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: able to you know what I'm saying, go back and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: politic willa and stuff like that. So not that I'm independent,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just moving way way different, bro. I really feel
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: like way more freer. Like it's a different piece of mind.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: They put you in a different music space, Like I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: could really drop whenever I want, like you know what
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, And that's like I could take on the drop,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I could drop back to back. It's however I want
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: to do it, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it's just a different space. Man. Then a lot of time,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: like I said, if you don't make the connection that
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: lay was gonna key with them overhead, it's like you're
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be wondering like, oh yeah, why did I pay yo?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: The worst part I see is I see like like
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I've had friends signed and then they'll get like an
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: engineering fee for making the clean version of their album
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and it'll be like fifteen thousand dollars. Yeah, Like wait,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I paid some dude, fifteen grand to make the clean
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: version of my single, Like nobody's charging Like that's insane.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: But like you said, like you gotta know and you
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: gotta be smo. You got no ways to filter that money. Also,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: like you know, a lot of artists like they'll they'll
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like let the studio, like the label pick their studio
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and then like you looking like wait, I spent two
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: grand a day in the studio time when I couldn't win,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and like booked my own spot for like five hundred dollars. Yeah. See,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I record my own I recorded like all my songs
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: that got pleasant stuff. I recorded, mixed and message all
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: my own stuff. So so you you record, mixed, master everything. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I do. I do everything now, I don't you know
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, all my past stuff I did?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You just recorded everything at home? Yeah? I recorded everything.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Like what you're like home set up? Like you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: what was your mic? Like I had the I had
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a new mean mic, I had the Apollo you know
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the Yamaha speakers. Just the basics, Yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the base, the basic, a padded room, the basics stuff.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's all really about your
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: your presets. And yeah, I said, I had you get
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that little template, put you on that temp Yeah, that engineer,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: he put me on my tent. He put me on
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: that temple. So like what I was doing, I was
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: just charging them for me recording myself. So that's how
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you feel. So how you're recording. But you probably got
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: a one hundred and fifty recording budget. You know what
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you record yourself, you know what I'm saying,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that's why they're not in the studio. More. Artist should
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: open their own studios. That's how you got to know
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: your contract. If you don't know your contract, you're especially
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: you like if you ever like, are you gonna end
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: up trying? I got an artist, Yeah, I got Yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I got I got an artist right now name uh
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn Love. I had another artist before that, but she
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I don't really mess with that no more. But I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: got an artist right now named Brooklyn Love. She yeah,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: now she from Baltimore. Oh shit more, that's wow out
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Man, So that the blue Blue Van draws
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: three is out? What is like you said, now you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: can drop music whenever you want. What is your uh,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: what's your plan for the rest of the year. Man, Uh,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop I'm gonna drop Love Scars e p
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: uh and Fridays and five days on October second. Uh
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it's like one that's Friday. It's like two days. Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well look this is this will be this
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: will come out next week, so this will be it's
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: already out. Yeah yeah, so uh Love Scars Yeah, and
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that's one like one of my uh this this real
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Blue ved stuff. So it's gonna be like a full
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: R and B project like when I dropped them. When
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I drop R and B projects, they go, they go crazy.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Ladies love the Yeah. So after I do that that,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I'm start working on my first real Real Abbu album. Yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: debut album that I'm that I'm dropping uh with uh.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: We we're boosting them team. We're gonna get to working
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: on uh that first album after this, after this project.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: What inspired you to get your own tour bus, because
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: that's another thing that you said, like, you know, people
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: got to start thinking this way man, nah man, like
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: for real though I really I really called it still
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: like a blessing on it because I it was this
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Australian guy and his daughter was like a real fan
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: of my music. So I hain't went to Nageville one time.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I treated everybody week because I treat it.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I just treated everybody respect. So he had hit me up.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: He was like, man, yeah, you know I do, I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: do publishing and stuff like that. I was just like, man, yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, let's talk about it. So he picked
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: me up from the airport. I went to his house
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and he had a big stupid house, you know what
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So end up coming to find out he
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: ended up being a singer from Australia that had like
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: multiple number one and stuff. So he owned a whole
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: big tour bus company. And I was like, man, I
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: need man, I need a tour bus. You feel me?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: So he was like, uh, He's like, man, I get
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you one. Like you know what I'm saying, there's no problem.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: So uh yeah, he gave me a toba. He gave
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you one. Yeah, he gave me. Oh yeah, he gave
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: me a So that's fun. You know what he what
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: he really did was you wouldn't say he gave it
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to me because I gave him twenty thousand for it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: But the toba was worth like two hundred thousand. You
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I gave him twenty thousand for it,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: so sh uh. And after that, you know what I'm saying,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I had broke my own like managing me for a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: little while, you know what I'm saying, and uh, stuff
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: like that. So it was like, you know, it was
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: kind of he was letting me use it, you know
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, while I was managing and stuff. But
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: he had ended ended up getting into like some multi
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: million dollar deals with some stuff, and you know, we
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: still keep in touch, but he was just like, you know,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: he ain't really So now you rent the tour bus
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: out to other artists? Yeah, yeah, I rented out to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: other people now like he be artist families stuff like that,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so that yeah
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: for real though, but I probably would eventually got because
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I got like sprints and stuff too, so I probably
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: would have eventually got my own. I just like how
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: it is, you know what I'm saying. It saved me
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: because it got like a whole keen bedroom in the back,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, stuff like that, So they
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: saved me for help to get rooms if I want
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: to go like out and just heat the city, the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: city of the city, the city and make money. You
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I could go do it. You
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying because I'm just on the bus.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. With your biggest market besides home,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: like as far as like where you get the most
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: bread for a show or you know, streaming wise, what
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: do you think is your biggest city, It'll probably be Houston, Atlanta,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and all of Louisiana. Like anyway in the Louisiana I'm
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: gonna get a bad like Houston, Dallas, you know what
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Milwaukee, New Jersey, like you know what I'm saying.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I got it's really like space stat like and weird
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, weird places. But most
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: of the South, like you know where in the South,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: like they gonna they gonna know me, but like it'd
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: been surprised though, because anyway I go, like somebody gonna
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: know me. I could be in oh Maha, Nebraska, God damn,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: like somebody gonna be like, oh you blue. You know
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's how I know, Like you said,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a good thing, like my music way more popular than me,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Like most people know my music and ain't know me
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: just because like like I said, I don't really be
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: in a I don't even really do too many interviews
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: for real like that. I just really started doing interviews
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: like that. But uh yeah, but I like it like
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that though, because like I said, you get built up
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: in the blogs, like people want to see that ship
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: all the time, and then when they don't see it, uh,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you fell off, you know what I'm saying. So no,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I think too. It's like you said an expectation, Yeah,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you have to be this person on social media, and
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: then like you got to keep trying to outdo yourself
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: with the dumb ship. I feel like someone like Little
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Pump in that space where like we kind of knew
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Little Punk for being like this wild ass kid. Yeah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but like what happens when the wild ass kids should
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: goes away? It's like, you know the thing, what's the
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: same thing with more than ever? He probably sitting back
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: just playing ten more things he can he could do.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: He's gotta out, he's gotta out do the disrespect. It's like, Okay,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go in this disrespect to
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: her before my album comes out, go to La, go
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to Chicago, shoot videos and all these places where shouldn't
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: be and it's like, okay, now what, Yeah, that's too there,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: that's too that's too that's too much for me. I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: just like I just enjoyed. I just endowing. Who are
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: some of your peers that you're like fans of musically,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of dope, dope dope artists right now,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: especially they do the melodic ship uh Like I really
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: miss with all of them. Like I tell to you know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: no Drive. I listened to all their music, Like you
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I messed for road Way like
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I knew Ordway when his come up, Like you know
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, he's been bubbling at it. I mean
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: he's been doing this thing for for some years. I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: feel like you guys, I feel like he was. But
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: that's crazy because Rob Rob, Like if you go and
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: look at his hold on Ice video, like I was
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: in like that was when he was out there like man,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: do a drop, Do a drop? I was like, yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I messed with him like he was. I think he
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: was opening up for me in a show of Florida.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: And then after that like I think he I don't
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: know if he redid it deal with Lamo or what,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: but after that he just started going crazy. You know, yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: he's fired. I think, Like, I mean, we talked about Clever.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Clever is really yeah, incredible. Have you I like parting it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I like parting this though though. That's probably my favorite artist.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: He's one of the hardest writers ever. Have you heard
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Blast from l a Uh one of my one of
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: my uh, one of my female friends. Uh, she just
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: interviewed him. Uh you know Taylor Spencer. Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: she just interviewed him. So that's that's how I heard him.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: And then I started getting to No. I just think
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: it's so man. I just think that, like, you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a good place where music is because
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you know, three four years ago, it was like that
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: overmodulated SoundCloud shit. Yeah, it's like it was just a
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: lot of like it just like music wasn't And that's crazy,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: is that you were making like melodic dope shit when
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: that wasn't even the wave. Yeah, and the sounders came
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: to you. Yeah real, So that' shit's dope. Man. So
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Love Scars debut album is your debut album when you like, like,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: do you consult with Boozy on that shit? Like, heyten,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: because I know you said you're gonna work, you know,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: get with his team on that like yeah, like, oh,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I mean in a recent conversation we just had you
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you know, he wanted to be
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: involved more because, like I said, it just been kind
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: of chaotic just me getting out the label situation and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: getting with the new things. So we didn't really have
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: time to just sit down and really just playing plot
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and strategize on a game plan. So this probably be
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the first time we had since you know, I signed
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: my new situation. Uh hm, and you know this would
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: be the first time for yeah, I saw he signed up.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. The last time I saw Boozie,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: uh he brought the little twelve robe kiddies with blurry
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, blurry yeah yeah yah yeah. Do you like
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: how how's your relationship like with other artists under the
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: under the unbro that you know, because oh yeah I
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: met I met with all of them, og Dre uh
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: de Ragas, uh Nina, uh Juicy, I messed with all know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: we all we all cool. Like I said, I feel like,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: uh you know what I'm saying. Uh, a lot of them.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, gonna get get ready to
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, catch away be well. Uh
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, everybody like time and everything.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been doing eight nine years before
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I you know what I'm saying. Really, just start for sure, man,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Just just moving like I'm
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: moving now, so you know it alls just comes with
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: time and persistence for real? Like are you I know
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: you know you're expecting a child and is that your
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: first baby? No? No, no, I got I got three
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: now this is this will be number four. This will
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: be number three, number three. You're with your lady too? Right? Yeah?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: How is it? Is it? Well? We kind of we
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: kind of we kind of broke up right now. I'm
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: kind of singing right now, you'll be fine. She's about
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to have your child. Yeah. Trust me, My wife hasn't
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: talk to me in like six days. Yeah, I got
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: marriage counseling tomorrow. But no, But I guess I guess
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: is it is? It? Is it hard? Because you know
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like when you're somebody like you, especially you
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: make love music that females love isn't tough to be
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: in a relationship. Uh yeah, because sometimes you know what
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, people like I ain't gonna lie. Like the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: reason why you know, I dropped this album because you know,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I like, I like, I have to really to make
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: a really perfect album. Uh, I have to really go
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: through something, you feel me. So that's why it's kind
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of like a random album because like you got to
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: go through life. Yeah I had. I had to really
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: go through it, you know what I'm saying. So that's
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: why the music be hitting them so hard because like,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you be real stuff, you know what I'm saying. So, uh,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: they be liking when my heart broken on when's the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: last time you cried? Man, I ain't. I ain't cried
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: at atle minute. Though I ain't crying a minute. Probably
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: let time I cry with uh, I don't know, probably
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: when my uh veil died, got my homeboy that that's
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: probably like a year ago, you know. Yeah, I ain't crack.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I don't like that for real, like that, I'd be
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: saying the therapy, Yeah, I'd be mad. I don't ready
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: cry like that for real. Looked at the project is out?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Go register to vote mm hmm, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: You gotta get your voting, bro. Alabama is one of
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: them ones where your vote counts. Oh yeah, I'm going.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going. You lived in l A, I'd be like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you know what, dude, Like, I just don't gonna be
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: very time somebody president. I personally just don't be feeling
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the fix of what they what they do, you know
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I know some people do, so
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's you know, I'm gonna
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: play my part in it, you know what I'm saying.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: But you know, I just I just really been been
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: on to go so much. I ain't really know too
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: much about the vote, how to how to do it
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: because that, I mean, that's really what I think they
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: need to do, like put more education on how to
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: even get involved in voting, because I ain't gonna lie
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of people. What do you do? How do
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: you vote? Like you show up? Yeah, Like a lot
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: of people from where I'm from, they don't even know
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: how to vote, Like they don't even know like no
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: billboards telling you the steps how to get unless you
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: just now you're right, Yeah, it's a problem. I think
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, unfortunately it's kind of I bet
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you paid more in taxes than Donald trumpter though right, yeah,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't. I only think I don't think
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I need fire text you. I'm just about to fire
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: tech in life, Like you haven't fould taxes once. But
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: you know what, like it's okay because all that future
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: money you don't go gota counted. I got, I got,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I got accounter though, like I got my stuff on tabs,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Like for the last three years, I just haven't filed
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a you know what I'm saying, they gonna crack you
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: for them penalties rather I probably I feel like, like
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I said, like I got the president, I really really
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: had a lot of music expenses. Like I'd invested so
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: much and the President's not paying taxes. Why should you
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: man that man paid seven hundred fifty one thing about music? Though?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Everything is an investment, like this durior investment like this
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: what what what? I so let me know. So when
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: you say this jewelry is an investment, I feel like
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: most people would say that artists fuck up by getting
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: to jewelry. You know what I'm saying, Like it's a mistake.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: When you say it's an investment. What do you mean? Uh?
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I say it as like in in the the way
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: of that's how you can sell it, you know, that's
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: how you can sell it to the people the Irish.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It is because it can
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: be looked at as an investment. What you're saying, So
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like Dirs you could be like this was you know Wardrobe?
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is, Yeah, it actually is. You know what
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your jewelry expenses that's fucking great. Yeah, I
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: feel like a music video. Yeah you know what I'm saying.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: But I feel like a lot of artists it is
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: like a symbol to them, like Drewry really like you
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for did you have a screen nigga? Yeah? Yeah,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: like for street niggas like Drury, like is a trophy,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's like a trophy. It ain't really nothing to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: say this or that. It's just like a trophy. Like Okay,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I made at this part me. I deserve a chine,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I deserve something. I want to shine, like, I want
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: to shine. I want to shine right, I want to
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: be seen because I've been slept on and people that
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying and throw the rug up,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: open it so so long, for so many years, I'm
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: getting money now, you know what I'm saying, I want
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: people to see me. It's kind of like a trophy,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like a you know what I'm saying, type of death.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Now that makes sense? I mean yeah, I just think
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: some people just like the way it looked like I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: just like, would you judge somebody if you found out
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: that they had fake jewelry? Uh? Nah? Because I used
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: to affake Jerr. I feel me. I used to a
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: fake Jeri back in the day. Like especially now I
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: feel like you can get those lab created diamonds. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I used to at fake Jeri back in the day.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying. I feel like, man,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you just gotta be real with yourself. Man. Everybody throwing something,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: everybody throwing something fake before they made it, you know
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Just like I said, you gotta speak
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: on stuff before it happen, Like you gotta speak on
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: stuff before heaven ain't like I was saying it was real.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: You feel me if I'm lying about it, if I
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: just got on some fake Jerry and you know what
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, and you just see me with it on.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And I ain't saying nothing about it. I just back
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: when I was young, coming up. You know what I'm saying,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen, then that was just me at the time.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If I'm saying, oh, this
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: is real happened, then yeah. But if you assume it's fake,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, so what but uh? Yeah, man, like,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I won't really judge nobody. But what's the
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: dumbest thing you've ever purchased? Her? Like the biggest purchase
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: you've made that you regret? Uh I bought? Man? About
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I bought something in the car? I bought something in
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the car. Man, what's the most expensive car you bought?
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I bought a Lambo, uh for like one fifty ship
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: about a Corvette for seventy the Lambo. Yeah, you said
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: you got past that wave though, right, Yeah, you're like, yo,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I got I got through that part of life. Yeah,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I got through that part of life. Yeah, I really.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I spent a lot of money on clothes, Like I
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: used to wear a lot of like design and stuff
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like that. But I mean, you do Gucci socks on
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? But I used to wear a lot
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of it though, Like I used to go spend like
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: ten thousand, you know what I'm saying, just on some
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: fucking clothes. Yeah, but NA just be like, man, I
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: got on hundred fifty worth, jer Like, what did you ever?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Did you ever wear those chunky ass shoes? Yeah? Yeah,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: well I still I still sometimes like I get to
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: feel like it'll be like a certain occasions though, like
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: if I know, if fine to gonna make twenty five,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: like those shoes were, so I'm glad they're kind of gone.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I know some people still wearing, but fuck man, they're
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: like everybody had that. Well like when you when you
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: come from nothing, man, it's just like when you come
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: from nothing and you dream about all these things. You
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got the little race calls
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: and getting it, the binders and stuff like that. When
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: you finally get the money, you gonna explore and see
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: what they feel like, you know what I'm saying, You
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: gonna just because it's just like you always wanted to
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: do this stuff. Like you always wanted to You always
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: looked at the BT one on Sister Parker saw saw
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: your people with the chains on and the fast calls
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: with the girl. So if you making it like you
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: gonna try that out, like I Don'tkay, well, nobody say
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: you gonna try that, You're gonna see what that's like.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Like is you smart enough to stop? Is the question?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Stop when you you know
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, when it comes to that time and realize, Okay,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: it's over for this, like I gotta go and the
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: stuff that's important that's gonna make me good forever. Like
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: if if you can't understand when it's that point, then
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: it's okay. You know what I'm saying. Do you feel
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: like you got you got snubbed for the Freshman cover?
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: It just happened. Yeah, Nah, I feel like I got
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: snubbed for the one before that because that at that moment,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: like I had, you know what I'm saying, two workers
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: that just went gold. You know what I'm saying. I
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: was getting mole shows than probably every artist on that
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: they had on now you know what I'm saying, probably
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: just some of the main screen artists. But uh yeah,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I just felt like I was just slept on. Like
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I said, I was the only one from Alabama, Like
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: they ain't really believe in that in that way, but
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: like most of them artists on that, they ain't have
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: no fucking gold records. You know what I'm saying now,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, there's there was a lot of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: people who got snubbed this year. I felt like you
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: were one of them. I fault like, yeah, I feel
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: so Don Tolliver could have been on that. Yeah, I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: ain't even put it. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: to put in my pitch. I ain't even put it
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: in my pitch. You're supposed to pitch yourself, Yeah, you're
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: suposed to pitch yourself, but I ain't. I feel like
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this it too long now, you know
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I would I would have liked it,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: but I ain't really trip ain't really too much trip.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: But man, what is give me your top three or
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: four albums of all time? Because you have a pretty
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: eclectic sound. I feel like, you know it might be yeah,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: agueful lot time, uh fifty fifty get rich of that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: solid Tupac uh I got. I ain't gonna lie. It's
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: it's a couple of Tupac albums that I feel like
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: there's always on me against the world. Yeah, yeah, them
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: boost it for my thugs. Uh uh h that Lauren
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Hill a mis education? Yeah, the mis education of Lauryn
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Hill classic uh a kon akh what I don't know
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: what would you do the Acon record right now? If
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: he wanted to do a record with you, even though
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: he did the Uh? I mean I probably you know
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, I look at everything from a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: from a Mars standpoint, and I probably wouldn't, you know
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, just because I feel like, you know,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I don't stand for it. Well, I'm pretty much sure
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: they probably be profitable. Like I said, I mean at
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the same time, you love like Akon's a legend. Of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: course I like to do one, but I just can't. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I just yeah, I feel like if if there'm the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: mores that he stand on, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: then you probably passed. Yeah, I probably passed. You know,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: not take nothing away from him, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: It's just you know, like I said, said, I don't
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: really do stuff for the month. I do stuff and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I want to do it because like I, like I said,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I'm great, So I don't really too much. Can I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: ask you being in Mississippi. How much fucking crazy Trump
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: ship that you have to deal with in Mississippi. Oh,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I don't deal with nothing. Like I imagine there's like
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Trump flags flying everywhere. Maggots. I really like, really like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: that they try to hide it. They for the most part,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: they had like I said, like being like I believe
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: it or not, being racists ain't really popular, Like it's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: not really popular like that. It's not hope not. Yeah,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: it's not really a popular perception. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: It's more it's more people. I ain't gonna say it's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: not more non racist people than racist people, but it's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: more people that don't show their racism than they do. Yeah,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because it's like it's frowned upon,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: like you lose your job, you can lose. It's a lot. Yeah, yeah, motherfuckers.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Most companies won't appeal to the black people because we
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: spend them was money, you know. Yeah. Plus if you
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: say some wildch it online, most like you lose your job, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna sacrifice. They're gonna sacrifice you instead of using
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: losing the whole black community because of black community gonna
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: we're gonna spend. We're gonna spend the money every day.
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  Speaker 1: So like it's either you're gonna sacrific this one person
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  Speaker 1: or you're gonna sacrifice this whole community. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So yeah, I already see too much. Plus
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I stayed with at on my own plan probably look
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  Speaker 1: like on my own city, got acres seven. Yeah, salute man,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: shout out, Yo, that's that's a beautiful thing. Well look
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  Speaker 1: get your EP. Is it EP? Yeah? It's on six songs. Yeah,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: that's how And hopefully the debut album will be out
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  Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, you know, go get this guy when
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: he opens his hookah spot, Go get some hookah. Oh yeah,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have and how in the food truck too.
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  Speaker 1: The food truck still open? Uh yeah yeah, the food truck.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: The food truck. I just got some fixed on the truck.
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  Speaker 1: So it's goenna going to it's gonna hit the squeeze
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  Speaker 1: like in like a week. So I'm gonna get off
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  Speaker 1: like a whole chain op and for real, So I'm like, boom,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Man. Good good,