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- 0:12Five minutes past the hour, third hour of The Morning Show with Preston Scott,
- 0:16Fast Moving Tuesday. Thanks for joining us August fifteen and show number forty
- 0:21nine eighty seven. That's Grant Allen running the program. And it's just a
- 0:25little old me here in Studio one B and I am joined by Eric Dellenbach,
- 0:32his bios fascinating. Served as president and executive director of the Tim Tebow
- 0:37Foundation for seven years. You might remember the Night to Shine. It's growth
- 0:45across the country and around the world that happened under Eric's leadership. He's now
- 0:52serving as the Governor's lays on for Faith and Community. Eric, Welcome to
- 0:56the program. How are you look. Good morning, Preston. I'm great,
- 0:59thankful to be When I say the words faith in community, you know,
- 1:03the mainstream media is kind of marginalized the word faith and trivialized it,
- 1:08you know, kind of almost mocking it. Tell me, what was the
- 1:11Governor's intent with this initiative. That's a fantastic question, Presson. I wish
- 1:19more people ask me that question. Actually, I think the intent of the
- 1:22initiative in the beginning was realizing there's twenty thousand faith institutions in Florida at about
- 1:29one hundred thousand plus nonprofits, and the power of those whose entities serving their
- 1:34communities cannot be understated. I mean overstated. I mean at the end of
- 1:38the day, I think when the governor first put it together is kind of
- 1:42objective to me in coming in was make sure they feel thanked, make sure
- 1:46they feel seen, make sure we're opening lines of communication, and make sure
- 1:49we're giving them the tools to be successful. Well, the reason for that
- 1:53is because twenty thousand faiths, institutions and community organizations serving our state. They're
- 1:57taking care of the needs of our vulnerable pipe relations and we don't even know
- 2:01about them as government. And quite frankly, that's how the system works best.
- 2:06And I think that was probably the early acknowledgment of let's make sure that
- 2:09we're appropriately saying thank you the one standing on the front line. I have
- 2:15long contended, you know, in the twenty plus years of doing this show,
- 2:17Eric, that if you pulled Americans, they think separation of church and
- 2:23state is part of the Constitution, that it's somehow in there, and we've
- 2:28demonized the idea that the government was never supposed to have a say in what
- 2:36happens in matters of faith, but that our Judaeo Christian faith was supposed to
- 2:40have influence and sway on our government, and people are still really uncomfortable with
- 2:46that. So on what form does this kind of re energizing or acknowledgement of
- 2:53the faith community take hold? How does it show up? Well, I'm
- 3:00gosh, Preston, what an amazing question there too, because ultimately it shows
- 3:04up by understanding what is and what isn't in the Constitution. I mean,
- 3:07I think, I think if you want to be bold, you should probably
- 3:09be aware of where these statements come from and what they mean and what they're
- 3:13for. And you're hitting the nail on the head with these the idea of
- 3:15separation from church and state, which by the way, was brought up to
- 3:17me. I mean, I've been here with the governor now for four years
- 3:21and it was brought up continuously in the beginning. How can this position even
- 3:23exist? How can this role with talking this initiative exist? And you know,
- 3:28if you go back, if you're any kind of historian, which it
- 3:30sounds like you enjoy quite a bit, if you're any kind of historian,
- 3:32you look back and you said, well, the original community based care of
- 3:36our country really came through the church, and so the church was standing in
- 3:38the gap and they were serving these populations. And as the government came in
- 3:43and started serving these same populations, the church kind of pulled back. Well,
- 3:46the problem with that is that the people of the church, the scripture
- 3:50that guides the church talks about serving people, and so all of a sudden
- 3:53the churchill will wait a minute, I don't think it's just their role.
- 3:55I think we should be serving people as well. And they come back in
- 3:59full for to serving the community. And the problem is that in the midst
- 4:02of that phrase, in the midst of some misunderstanding, you have the church
- 4:06serving in a silo, you have government serving in a silo, and yet
- 4:10we're serving the exact same people. And so it became imperative that there'll be
- 4:14discussions across the lines. We as a state, Floridians should be proud as
- 4:18they listen this morning, that we as a state are leading in this category.
- 4:21I mean leading in major ways. We have over five thousand churches are
- 4:26part of the Governor's faith the Comunity Initiative. There's over sixteen hundred churches this
- 4:30morning as we wake up sixteen hundred churches that are collaboratively working together. I
- 4:35mean, that's not happening in other states. There's there's only about fourteen states
- 4:40that have an initiative like this. Our faith is any part of what they
- 4:43do and want to I want to say this not because I want to make
- 4:47things about money, but if you look simply from a fiscal perspective, the
- 4:51amount of money the churches and nonprofits standing in the gap serving their population saves
- 4:59the taxpayers of or you would do this initiative all day long just for that.
- 5:02But it's not just about money. It's also about the fact that we
- 5:05can't serve as government as well as they can serve the people that surround them.
- 5:10And so it's it's imperative that people understand the importance of the two working
- 5:15together and what that actually means. Joining me on the program is Eric dellenback
- 5:31with the Governor's Faith and Community Based Initiative, and Eric I mentioned the three
- 5:38core pillars. Let's let's take the time in this segment to talk about what
- 5:42those are and how they express themselves. Well, I mean, at the
- 5:46end of the day, the three core pillars for us are that we need
- 5:51to be out there thinking the faith institutions of our state. At the end
- 5:56of the again, going back what we just spoke about, the work that
- 6:00they're being doing is being invaluable. We need to make sure that government is
- 6:03saying thank you. It's not that we're telling them what to do. It's
- 6:06one informing them on what to do. We're simply thanking them for being part
- 6:09of serving our vulnerable populations. Secondly, and this is a big one,
- 6:14we have to open communication. I think I have the best job in the
- 6:17state as Governor's Liaison for Faith and Community. I get to be his voice
- 6:20to the twenty thousand plus states institutions of our state, and I get to
- 6:25be their voice coming back into state government and really informing one another of what
- 6:29we're missing, what we're not seeing, how we can help better, who's
- 6:31out there that we can serve. It's become a tremendously successful program that is
- 6:38being duplicated by many states now. And then third, we've got to figure
- 6:42out resources where we can work together. There's a resource right now. The
- 6:45First Lady launched a program called Hope Florida. And Hope Florida is the idea
- 6:50that need meters would be connected with need. People in need might not be
- 6:56the right vernacular, but that's the idea and launched a program here called Hope
- 7:00Florida where there are people in every piece of our community right now. They
- 7:05when a person that's in need calls them, they are connecting them with the
- 7:10local church, They're connecting them with the local nonprofit, they're connecting them with
- 7:12the local synagogue. They're finding all these different resources, and they're kind of
- 7:16serving as a middle person to get them to the right place so they can
- 7:19be served in the most effective way. And those three things are driving everything
- 7:23we do. And so those that's kind of where we stand. Eric.
- 7:27If I were I'm just being kind of an outsider and looking at this program,
- 7:31I would say objectively, you don't need to spend a lot of time
- 7:34on number one, because as a former vocational pastor, I would say that's
- 7:40like thanking somebody for not robbing the bank. I think I think. I
- 7:45think the faith community is supposed to do what the faith community does because it's
- 7:48it's integral to their their faith. It's what they're supposed to do. But
- 7:53if we focus on the other two things, what obstacles are you facing?
- 7:57I mean, who could possibly fight this other than the insanities of places like
- 8:03the ACLU or whatever. Well before I moved it too. And here I
- 8:07want to say to you. The first thing we did was sent out forty
- 8:09thousand thank you notes. And I agree with you. I don't think you're
- 8:13I don't think you're thanking them for doing a role that God called them into.
- 8:15I think instead, what you're saying is we recognize you, we see
- 8:18you now. I had we sent out little pins and certificates to pastors and
- 8:22faith leaders all over the state. Many of them were in tears when I
- 8:26talked to them because they've just never been thanked by government. I mean,
- 8:28to them, that was so foreign. And I think we had to break
- 8:31down some understanding too, of like government should not be in its perfect form
- 8:35against them. It's just a but we're in weird times, so a thank
- 8:41you note became oddly important. You know. The other two, I mean,
- 8:43the things we face and obstacles we face is just Number one is people.
- 8:48People don't necessarily want faith institutions involved in things. And I don't even
- 8:52get that. I mean, the truth is and and so if you look
- 8:56at Foster Care, that's where we started and we said, okay, we
- 9:00want to first start with foster care. Who want to go look at the
- 9:01programs? And the day that we started, there were twenty three thousands of
- 9:05children in foster care in our state alone. And we started asking the question,
- 9:09well, what's better than helping a child that's in foster care is helping
- 9:13a child before they get the foster care. And so because the most traumatic
- 9:18moment of their life happens in between, and so we started asking questions about
- 9:20if we open communication because the state knows that we know in advance who those
- 9:26kids are coming down, the church really doesn't get to know them until they're
- 9:28in foster care. And so we started opening dialogue and saying, hey,
- 9:31would you would you go with us? There's an app we put in Florida.
- 9:35We're one of the only states where one of the fastest prices. We're
- 9:37just so need and so proud of what we're doing here. But it's just
- 9:41this press is so simple. A case worker or CPI standing in a home
- 9:46can recognize that there's great need in that home. Maybe they need a bunk
- 9:48bed, maybe they need a car seat, maybe they need their floors falling
- 9:52in their roofs falling in. They can press a button on their phone real
- 9:56time and that need goes out to every phaith in community organization in that city
- 10:01that has signed up wanting to see need it is. It is so simple.
- 10:05But the pushback originally was well, how can that work? And what's
- 10:09that look like? And is it safe? And we had to answer a
- 10:11lot of questions. And we did answer a lot of questions. Tell me
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- 10:22Radio station coming up to twenty two minutes past the hour with Eric dellenback Governors
- 10:33lay us on for Faith and Community. We talked about first Lady Casey de
- 10:37Sanders is Hope Florida. We've talked about kind of the breadth and the idea
- 10:43behind this program. And Eric, let me just ask you, as you
- 10:46have heard back from pastors and leaders of faith based organizations and so forth,
- 10:54what comes back as some common I don't know, needs or common thoughts ideas
- 11:00on the subject of how Florida's government can be helpful. Well, I mean
- 11:07just being very reality President. I think The first thing that comes back is
- 11:09they don't particularly trust government. Sure, you know, I hear the Ronald
- 11:13Reagan quote, I mean multiple times a day. You know, I'm here
- 11:16with the government, here to help, and I'm like, look, I
- 11:20get that, and I think government has done a good job of kind of
- 11:22earning that title. However, I think to throw the baby out with the
- 11:24bath water. That's where we spend the most time in the beginning. It's
- 11:28just working on trust. You know. I think it helps that my last
- 11:31two roles were with Tim Tebow and Chris Tomlin, and so I think that
- 11:33helps them say, Okay, well, you know, I think he might
- 11:35be one of our people. But you know, when we look across the
- 11:39needs of our state, the needs aren't going down, right, the needs
- 11:43are increasing. I mean, if you look at let's just go to a
- 11:48topic that a lot of people are talking about in a post Rowe versus Wade
- 11:54era, in a time when our legislation has just put a six week on
- 12:00abortions, like, I don't spend a ton of time talking about that,
- 12:03to be honest with you. What I spend a ton of time talking to
- 12:05is to the safe institutions, saying, look, we are stronger together.
- 12:09It's imperative that we work collaboratively. When we built Night to Shine, it
- 12:13was the idea that multiple churches on one day would work together to serve the
- 12:16people with special needs community. And this is an important time in our state
- 12:20that as this legislation has changed, I'm going to be real, real blunt
- 12:26here with your listeners and say, there'll be more people with special needs born
- 12:30than in the last fifty years. There'll be more people that would have the
- 12:33possibility of entering foster care born than in the last fifty years. It is
- 12:39imperative. I like a phrase that I heard from a pastor in Jacksonville,
- 12:43and so it's imperative that we not be merely pro birth, but pro life
- 12:48from womb to tomb. And I think if you looked across the relationship between
- 12:52faith and institutions and government, that's what we've got to be. We've got
- 12:54to be talking about what are the programs we're giving children who are in some
- 13:00cases of income shortage or special needs or you know, again, this movie
- 13:05came out that's impacted the country around anti trafficking. These are issues we've better
- 13:09be looking at. However, we've better be looking at how we're serving our
- 13:11elders and our veterans, and I think, like I think, this time
- 13:16in Florida's history has opened up government's eyes more than ever to the imperative nature
- 13:20of looking at each part of life and saying every single one of those matters.
- 13:26And so it's it's been a very very fun time with this governor,
- 13:28with this first lady, because that's exactly how they talk, That's exactly what
- 13:31they do, is like, how can we enhance every single program that serves
- 13:35citizens in this kind of imperative growth time in Florida? It would seem,
- 13:43and you and I've both been around the political process, it would seem that
- 13:48this type of initiative and the people that it has the most potential impact on
- 13:56would appeal to both sides of the political aisle. Are you seeing that in
- 14:01reality? Absolutely? Absolutely? And so I know I've given so many statistics
- 14:05to your listeners, But if you think Quarta has got twenty three million people
- 14:09right now in our state, seventy percent say that they are Christian, seventy
- 14:13percent, six percent say that they are of other faith, and then twenty
- 14:18four percent would say no faith. Well, if I think that seventy six
- 14:20percent to stay there. Faith based about sixteen point eight nine million people.
- 14:26I have to tell you it is the largest group. It is a bipartisan
- 14:30group. And we've got to start acting that way, right, which is
- 14:31like and I don't mean we've got to act that way and how we vote,
- 14:35I mean we've got to act that win, how we serve. Like
- 14:37is this is a role that the faith intusition's role is not to talk party
- 14:41first, then service second. The role is to serve people, then somewhere
- 14:46down the line talk about your party. But no, I think it is
- 14:50absolutely working that way. I mean, honestly, there's no one that can
- 14:52come in right now to our administration or to the governor's mansion in the future
- 14:56and not understand the value of what's being served here, how being done.
- 15:00The fact that sixteen hundred faith instiusions are working together, and even if they
- 15:05just understood it fiscally, this thing makes tremendous common sense. I heard someone
- 15:11once say, many years ago, Eric preach the Gospel and every now and
- 15:15then use words. I think that's a major piece. I mean, I
- 15:20think I think I ask our faith instiusitions all the time, doesn't love leave
- 15:24this whole thing, and of course it does, so that's where we've got
- 15:26to start. Thanks for the time this morning. I appreciate what you're doing.
- 15:31Yes, sir, thank you.