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Como historic in Champions League, Roma & Inter continue Scudetto battle - Ep. 316 · The Calcio Guys

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Calcio's in full swing. Four matches done on the Serie A.
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  Speaker 1: Champions League already started. Europa League Conference League starting this week.
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  Speaker 1: We have our first international break coming up next weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I am the Calcio guys, Gianni, Gianno, I'm Nicholas. You
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  Speaker 1: can follow us on all your favorite podcasting platforms and
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: social media at the Calcio guys. Guys, how's it going?
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay. How about you guys? It's going good. It's
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: going good. Happy to be back.
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  Speaker 3: Back to the OG3 and a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: So ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed. A lot to talk about. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: City Eye is fresh in our mind, but Champions League,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, last week was the first set of games.
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  Speaker 1: Roma making their return to the Champions League after seven years.
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  Speaker 1: We're definitely going to talk about that, but I think
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  Speaker 1: the story, not only in Italy, guys, but across Europe
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  Speaker 1: was Como with the 4-1 win on Thursday against Leipzig,
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  Speaker 1: a team that, you know, a bit like Como where they,
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  Speaker 1: they were, you know, they got money quite a few
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  Speaker 1: years ago. They, they went up, they went into their,
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  Speaker 1: they had their own champions league run about five, six
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  Speaker 1: years ago. And, uh, now it's Como's turn that they come, they,
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  Speaker 1: they come in. Um, they played in Como on top
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  Speaker 1: of it for one goals from Baturina, Duvicas, Giao and, uh, Perrone. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, guys, this is straight up. This reminds me
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  Speaker 1: of Atalanta when they did the same thing back in 2019. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe a bit different because they have a
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  Speaker 1: lot more money. Como versus Atalanta was, was a team
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  Speaker 1: kind of built from, from the top with their youth system.
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  Speaker 1: But regardless, like, you know, this is a Como team
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  Speaker 1: that I, it's a third season in Serie A and
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  Speaker 1: they're already in the, they're already in the Champions League
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  Speaker 1: winning games. You know, especially, you know, to see someone
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  Speaker 1: like Duvica score, we see him all the time, right?
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  Speaker 1: In the Serie A, what was it? Like 12 goals,
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  Speaker 1: 13 goals last season. So for him to score in
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  Speaker 1: the Champions League is huge. I will say this is
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  Speaker 1: what I want to talk about in terms of a topic,
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  Speaker 1: because there was a bit of, I guess, debate or controversy.
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  Speaker 1: No Italian players were in their starting lineup in this
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  Speaker 1: Champions League game. So, you know, some people are happy.
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  Speaker 1: It's an Italian team doing well in the Champions League,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like, oh, no Italian players. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where you guys stand on that. Because me personally, it's
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  Speaker 1: like you can't have it all. If you want an
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  Speaker 1: Italian team to do well, that's OK. That's Serie A, right?
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  Speaker 1: They're going to do well. Who cares who they have
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  Speaker 1: as a player? It could be Mongolian monks. As long
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  Speaker 1: as the team does well in the Champions League, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be happy for them. But if you're cheering
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  Speaker 1: for Italian players, then yes, of course, it's disappointing. But
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  Speaker 1: if you're cheering for Italian players, you're going to go
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  Speaker 1: and cheer for the Italian national team who haven't qualified
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  Speaker 1: for the World Cup in God knows how many years now.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, whatever. They don't have Italian players.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. It goes to show that maybe Italian players
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  Speaker 1: are just not there, and we're getting beat up by
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  Speaker 1: Greek players, by Argentinian players, and that's okay, and Como
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  Speaker 1: is having success, and you know what, good for them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to unfold there with Como,
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  Speaker 3: I think the back and forth of, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: have no Italian players, they have Italian players, it's a
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  Speaker 3: bit redundant for me now, I think, like, we get it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they don't have consistent Italian starters in their
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  Speaker 3: starting 11, and Listen, we're going to have to accept
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  Speaker 3: that as fans of this league and, you know, any
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  Speaker 3: fans of Como, I think they've already come to accept
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  Speaker 3: it from what I've seen.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a shame.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously to be able to register, you know,
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  Speaker 3: their squad, they do have to have, you know, a
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  Speaker 3: certain amount of Italian players on their roster, which they do.
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  Speaker 2: Are they out and out starters?
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  Speaker 3: They got like all three of them this window, this
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  Speaker 3: past window in the Mercato. So, you know, it's not
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  Speaker 3: a shocker for me that they haven't been super integrated, but,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we do, they do have, you know, Moise
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  Speaker 3: Keane on, on, on the roster. They do have Samuel
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  Speaker 3: De Ricci, Mattia Liberale. So these are, these are younger
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  Speaker 3: names and names, Italian names that are, that are in
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  Speaker 3: the squad. Are you going to see them week in
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  Speaker 3: and week out on the starting 11? Maybe not, but
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  Speaker 3: I think again, for me, it just, it's been a
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  Speaker 3: bit redundant. Enjoy the, Enjoy the performance. You know, Sheik
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  Speaker 3: Fabregas has said it. He's trying to integrate, you know,
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  Speaker 3: more Italian players. We've even heard, you know, the Indonesian
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  Speaker 3: owners speak on it.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, at the end of the day, it's a business.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, we come to hopefully accept that as
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  Speaker 3: fans of this league and just fans of the sport
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  Speaker 3: in general. But listen, like Italian players or not, and
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  Speaker 3: I know we're probably going to get roasted for saying it,
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  Speaker 3: 4-1 in the Champions League on their first time out
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  Speaker 3: for a team like Como that, what is it, four
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  Speaker 3: or five years ago was in Serie B, you know,
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  Speaker 3: fighting in Serie B to now Champions League winners in
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  Speaker 3: terms of a match played and winning a game. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you just can't write that any better. So, you know,
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  Speaker 3: chapeau to them. Shaq Fabregas has done, you know, again,
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  Speaker 3: incredible work with his team.
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  Speaker 2: And again, no fear.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't even seem like it was their first time
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  Speaker 3: you know, in this competition, let alone like Champions League,
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  Speaker 3: just a European competition. Like usually teams kind of go
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  Speaker 3: baby steps and they maybe get, you know, Conference League
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  Speaker 3: and then maybe Europa League and then make that jump
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  Speaker 3: to Champions League. Como went straight to Champions League, straight
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  Speaker 3: for the jugular. First game, first at-bat, first home run.
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  Speaker 3: You can't say much more than that. For me, it
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  Speaker 3: was an exciting result to see just.
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  Speaker 2: As a neutral. But again, I think they will....
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  Speaker 3: Integrate some Italian players in the lineup, but if we're
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  Speaker 3: going to stress this when they already have a set.
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  Speaker 2: Formula and a set idea.
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  Speaker 3: That Fabregas has, I think we're just beating a dead
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  Speaker 3: horse with trying to force Italian players in the starting
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  Speaker 3: lineup week in and week.
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  Speaker 1: Out.
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  Speaker 4: I think, honestly, even though there are no Italian players,
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  Speaker 4: it just brings the eyes to the league. it brings,
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  Speaker 4: it brings like attention because they're gonna be like, holy shit,
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  Speaker 4: Como just beat Leipzig. And everyone's gonna be like, who
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  Speaker 4: the fuck is Como? And they're like, the casuals. And
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna look it up and they're gonna see names
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  Speaker 4: that they recognize from the past on the roster. They're
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  Speaker 4: gonna see some big hitters, you know, and they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be like, oh shit, where do they play? In the
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  Speaker 4: Italian league? You know, it's like, oh, this is a
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  Speaker 4: fun team to watch. And next thing you know, people
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  Speaker 4: are watching, even if they're watching Serie A, they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be watching it for Como. They're still putting eyes on
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  Speaker 4: Serie A. And that's been one of the biggest factors
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  Speaker 4: that this league has needed. It's been needing players non-Italian fans.
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  Speaker 4: That's the appeal of the Prem. The Prem dominates us
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  Speaker 4: because all the money is there because they have non-English fans.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody watches the Prem. If we can get more eyes
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  Speaker 4: on our product, that means more sponsorship deals, more TV deals,
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  Speaker 4: more of an influx of money. So it is a
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  Speaker 4: catch-22 because, yeah, you're getting the money that you need,
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  Speaker 4: but you're not playing Italians. But you need to play
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  Speaker 4: the Italians for them to get better. But if they play,
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  Speaker 4: they might not get the same results, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 4: that's something that's another issue that is also going along
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  Speaker 4: with the league, but that's, that's not related to what
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  Speaker 4: the issue is right now. The issue is right now
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  Speaker 4: is that the league is falling behind financially to other leagues.
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  Speaker 4: It's still a very quality league because we have the
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  Speaker 4: best managers in the world, but it's, it's something where
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  Speaker 4: it's like, look, get more eyes. And if a game
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  Speaker 4: like this happens, that definitely gets more eyes because it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be like, come on. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Like that's, that's, that's, that's this fat year. It's going champions.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to be surprised. But it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Because, cause you know, let's say it was, let's say
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  Speaker 2: they watched for one and there was only Italians on
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  Speaker 2: the pitch. Then, then what would we be saying?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like it's, it we're, I feel like we're in city hour,
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  Speaker 3: just in, in, in Italy. I think there's, there's always
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  Speaker 3: these talking points.
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  Speaker 2: It's a shame. Would I like to see Italian players
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  Speaker 2: on the starting 11? For sure. Would I like to
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  Speaker 2: see Keane be their main striker? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: But again, Duvicas has been in that system now these
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  Speaker 3: last years. They have a certain way they want to play.
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  Speaker 3: Shaq Fabregas has made that very clear. And they're going along.
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  Speaker 3: So listen, Como beating Leipzig, for me, that's a huge
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  Speaker 3: step for let alone Como, but just the league again,
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  Speaker 3: producing another Cinderella story team. The only thing I would
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  Speaker 3: differ from your point, Nick, is I do think it
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  Speaker 3: is a bit different from Atalanta, and you kind of
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  Speaker 3: nailed it with saying.
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  Speaker 2: How it was built.
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  Speaker 3: But again, it's not only about the money either, because yes,
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  Speaker 3: they're very, very financially stable, and they've spent money, but
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  Speaker 3: they've also invested, I think, wisely. and with players that
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  Speaker 3: are going to fit Fabregas' system, and they're running with that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they've really splashed the cash on... They
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  Speaker 3: didn't spend $ 75 million for a striker and hope for
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  Speaker 3: him to score 20-odd goals, kind of like what Milan
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  Speaker 3: has done. We saw it with Vovic in the past
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  Speaker 3: for Juve and stuff of that nature. So I think
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  Speaker 3: they've done their smart business, and listen, we have to
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  Speaker 3: be happy.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: And they were the only Italian team to win. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Inter lost 2-0 to Real Madrid. Napoli lost 1-0 home
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  Speaker 1: to Arsenal. You know, again, good team. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe between Inter and Napoli, would have liked to see
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  Speaker 1: one win. And then, uh, Roma did tie for an Apache, uh, Brian, Chris, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Dante, our favorite player to score, uh, scored for Roma.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you had the chance to watch that, Johnny,
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  Speaker 1: what it was like to, to watch Roma back in
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  Speaker 1: the champions league after all this time.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I didn't get a chance to watch the game
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  Speaker 4: because it was, uh, fortunately during the time that I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't able to actually sit down and watch, uh, yay jobs, uh,
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  Speaker 4: But just seeing from the highlights and whatnot, it felt nice.
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  Speaker 4: It felt nice to finally be back in Champions League
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  Speaker 4: after all this time. And, you know, kind of hoping for,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like maybe like a bit of a dub. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I'll take the draw. Especially like being down. Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Especially like, you know, not being there. I'm thinking of
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  Speaker 4: the Arsenal game.
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  Speaker 2: My mistake.
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  Speaker 4: Especially of like you know just not being there in
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  Speaker 4: a while it's a good first step uh funny to
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  Speaker 4: see like a game against Lukaku uh you know it's
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  Speaker 4: just uh it's after seeing him like in Serie A
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  Speaker 4: for so long and whatnot and like playing for teams
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  Speaker 4: and now it's like oh wait no he's not he's
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  Speaker 4: not part of Serie A anymore just you forget it
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  Speaker 4: you forget about that so much but uh You know,
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  Speaker 4: as the game went on, I'm looking at, like, Fenerbahce,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, Skriniar. Oh, my God, yeah. Greenwood. What
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  Speaker 4: the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: Mariki.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I'm just there, like, oh, my God, I forgot
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  Speaker 4: about these guys. Nicolo Conte. I'm like, holy shit. And you're, like,
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  Speaker 4: thinking about this. It's like, okay, yeah, it's not the
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  Speaker 4: them of, like, five years ago, ten years ago, but
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  Speaker 4: it's still, like, this is still a decent team to
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  Speaker 4: draw with. So it's not Gasperini's first fray in Champions League,
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  Speaker 4: but it is with a new roster that he's, like,
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  Speaker 4: kind of built up a bit so um curious to
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  Speaker 4: see where it goes from here uh i i really
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  Speaker 4: expect them maybe to maybe survive the initial round and
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  Speaker 4: probably get eliminated in the the the single games but
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  Speaker 4: uh but still like it was it was nice to
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  Speaker 4: see them back and i think although romanisti are really
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  Speaker 4: happy to feel like as if there's a belief again
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  Speaker 4: in the team and it's it looks like a different
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  Speaker 4: Roma than years of the past.
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  Speaker 6: It's definitely like, it's, it's definitely a drama that we
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  Speaker 6: were kind of seen 10 years ago when we had
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  Speaker 6: Mo Salah, like after like post-Fidentina where you had the
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  Speaker 6: young Golan in the midfield, you know, you had the
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  Speaker 6: end of the Tati era, but you had a prime Zeko,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like you had a team that, that all
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  Speaker 6: see like to like entering the twilight of his career and, uh, you,
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  Speaker 6: you had a roster that it's like, this is a competitive.
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  Speaker 4: Roster and we can actually do something here. And that's
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  Speaker 4: what it feels like. Again, it feels like when I
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  Speaker 4: look at this at almost squad, I'm like, this is
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  Speaker 4: a team that, uh, I'm not uncomfortable with them when
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  Speaker 4: they feel they're starting 11. Like I don't, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: saying that there's, there's darned any holes, but what I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying is I look at them and I'm like, it
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  Speaker 4: seems like every player is kind of like pulling their
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  Speaker 4: own weight and I have confidence in them.
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  Speaker 1: So, uh, By the way, guys, I said the Conference
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  Speaker 1: League is back. No, it's not back until mid-October. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to wait until October, but Juve and Milan
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  Speaker 1: play this week. Juve plays Italian singer Neck. I'm not kidding.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: The team they're playing is called Neck or NEC. I
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: don't know how they want to be called. They might
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  Speaker 1: have an advantage there. And Milan does play a better-known club, Benfica. Adrian,
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  Speaker 1: I know we spoke about Juve last week, Europa League expectations,
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  Speaker 1: but for Milan, what are you expecting out of this competition?
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think it's going to be interesting, kind
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  Speaker 3: of similar to Gianni's point with the Roman champions. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, just before we end the Champions League,
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  Speaker 3: I personally think all four Italian teams can survive the
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  Speaker 3: initial round.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and get past that, just putting that out there.
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  Speaker 3: Um, but for me, when in Europa league and again,
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  Speaker 3: similar even to Juve, I think they both can advance. Um,
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  Speaker 3: this is a competition that I think, you know, despite,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the, the challenge of, of trying to finish
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  Speaker 3: top four and, and, you know, maybe, maybe just maybe,
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  Speaker 3: you know, push for, uh, push, you know, those top
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  Speaker 3: teams at the limits for, for a Scudetto run. Um,
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  Speaker 3: I think this is a competition that Milan has to
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  Speaker 3: take seriously, has to do well in. I think if
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  Speaker 3: it's going to, I think it'll prove, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: type of manager that Amirim is and kind of get
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  Speaker 3: rid of that bad taste of the Manchester.
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  Speaker 2: United days for him. You know, so far it's been okay.
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  Speaker 3: I think at Milan, right, two wins, two draws, they're
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  Speaker 3: still undefeated in Serie A and they kick off, you know, their, their,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Europa League campaign and, We'll see. It's against,
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  Speaker 3: you know, obviously a Portuguese team, and we'll see how
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  Speaker 3: that goes.
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  Speaker 2: But for me, I expect them to take it seriously.
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  Speaker 3: I expect them to advance past the initial knockouts or
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is, the first 24 or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 3: and go on from there.
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  Speaker 2: Do they win it? Again, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Milan has been so up and down in Europe when
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  Speaker 3: they have been in Europe, so it's really hard to predict. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: I would like it. maybe an all-Italian final, Champions League 03.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, as long as
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  Speaker 3: they play well, they advance, and they kind of just
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  Speaker 3: don't lay eggs along the way, I think they'll be okay.
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  Speaker 3: I think the squad is able to compete. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how far, to be honest with you. um obviously
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  Speaker 3: as fans we want these teams our teams to to
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  Speaker 3: win these competitions but again at the same time we
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  Speaker 3: have to be a bit of a realist um especially
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: in the forward spot because we saw you know even
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: over the weekend um against Lazio you know once again
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: our our striker hasn't scored right and and that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of been the the theme of you know some of
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  Speaker 3: these bigger teams in Serie A you know their their
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  Speaker 3: forwards are not really scoring at the rate we would
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  Speaker 3: like them to so If that translates into Europa League,
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  Speaker 3: I think it'll be a bit of a worry because
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  Speaker 3: off the bench, and I put my faith in Camarda,
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  Speaker 3: but it's only really Camarda as that number nine coming
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  Speaker 3: off the bench to replace Ramos.
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  Speaker 2: So that's something to look out for.
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  Speaker 3: I think once this team kind of gels and Amrim
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  Speaker 3: kind of really, which I think this weekend kind of
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  Speaker 3: opened his eyes to what his best starting XI is,
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  Speaker 3: I think once that comes into play, I think we
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  Speaker 3: should be fine. It's that additional depth that is going
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  Speaker 3: to be needed to go far in these tournaments, to
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: go far in Serie A. So we'll see how he
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: balances it. I'm curious to see how he does that. Obviously,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: first test is Wednesday, if I'm not mistaken. I think
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Milan plays on Wednesday. Correct me if I'm wrong. That's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: what I thought I had seen.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: The 16th?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Right, so.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: They kick off on Wednesday, and I'm intrigued to see
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: who Amrim feels, how he takes it, and how this
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: campaign starts. It's eight games, so there's time, but at
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the same time, there's no time. So it's one of
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: these catch-22s for Milan. Would I be upset if they
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: kind of went more in the Serie A basket rather
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: than the Europa League basket? Sort of, but at the
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: same time, I think they're able to be somewhat competitive
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: in all three fronts, including the Coppa Italia. So, again, maintain,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: you know, manage our expectations and, you know, one game
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: at a time and I think Milan will be fine.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much we can say the same thing about Juve,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: but like I said, we talked about it last week
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: in terms of expectations. But, yeah, back to Serie A
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and I feel like we do have to go back
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to Roma because Daniel Malin... How many goals is it now, Jenny?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Is he already at six?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Five, six, I think.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Six.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Six goals, guys.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Six.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he scored his first goal today. I think it
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: was Torino and then Pasili scored the second late. Honestly,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: it was an interesting set of games today because the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Champions League teams, besides Napoli, played today. Como as well,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: 2-1 winning over Parma. And then I think the game
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: of the week, enter 5-3 over Udinese uh man I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: was I was ready to write the headlines Udinese goes
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: up to nothing I'm like guys a Bianconeri team finally
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: winning at San Siro you know uh by the way
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw Udinese's kits this
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: season but they're they're very much Juve like every year
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: they kind of I feel like Udinese's kits the the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: stripe size and all that's been different but this year
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: definitely looks like something Juve would wear so maybe a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: hop to that year for Udinese um because they are
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: in the round, the same, same, uh, spot in the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: table as you weigh now anyways. Uh, but five, three
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: for inter just, uh, you know, it feels like, yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: come back from two, nothing. Um, it feels like, uh,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: right now I know it's early on for, for, for
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: match days, but they're Romar and enter the last two
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: undefeated teams remaining or the last two teams with four wins. Uh,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and it feels like they're, they're both, um, Just going
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to try to outscore their opponents every game. I know Roma,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: different style game today. 2-0, quieter game than what they're
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: used to in those 4-0 games that they started the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: season with. But for Inter to go out and look,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: let's be real. They let in three goals against Udinese.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Their defense wasn't there today. So for them to beat
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you with five goals instead, it's... I wouldn't say it's unstoppable,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: but it goes to show that Roma in this early
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Scudetto race, they're going to be against a team that
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: could win in any which way. So it will be
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: interesting to see if Roma could do the same in
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: those games that maybe they go out and allow two,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: three goals. But regardless, like for both teams, you're talking
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: about Champions League. It's a good result, right? You know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: there's one more. They each have one more game this weekend.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I forget who they're playing. Are they playing each other?
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're playing each other.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: They're playing each other. Yeah, OK.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: It's Inter-Roma this weekend.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: They're playing each other. That's it. Saturday at noon. So
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: already a Scudetto game. So one team, I wouldn't say
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: one team has to lose because they could draw. But
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a high scoring affair.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: You do realize one thing that you completely forgot about.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Roma only has one goal against this entire season so far.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: And Inter has let in six goals. In the back end,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: what's making Roma so successful is that not only are
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: they pressing so much and offering so much offense, is
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: that in the back line, they've been holding steady. And
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Svilar has just been phenomenal Um, I think that this
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: game obviously is one where it's like inter provides high
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: quality of offense too. So is it going to be
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a shutout again? Not really. No, I don't think it's
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: going to be a clean sheet game, but I'm giving
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: this like, I'll be fucking, I'll be a little bit confident.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I might bite myself.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I might put my mouth in my, for my mouth,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: my mouth and my foot, my foot in my mouth
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: by saying this, but I think Roma gets the edges
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: this weekend because of how defensively well they are. Um,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Like Inter, what you have to give them credit for
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: is that they've been fighting back. They were down 2-0
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: to Napoli and they came back and won 3-2. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: it's like that's Inter all over again. Like it's, you
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: just said it now, 2-0 down against Udinese and they
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: win 5-3. Inter is a team that you cannot get
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: comfortable with them because they will have players that have
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: won it before and knows what it takes to win
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: and punish you for it. They're definitely the team that's
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: playing with the most confidence right now because they're the
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: team that is like a two-goal lead. Job's not finished.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Job's not done. Job's done. That's their mentality. And that's
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: what's frightening for Inter. It's like their job's not done.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Being down 2-0 is anything?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: No.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: So I'm curious to see how Roma does with having
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: some pressure because the only game that they had that
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: they played that they were down was against Atalanta where
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: they were down by one goal.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: True.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: That was the only game that they ever played behind
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: and they ended up winning 2-1. But besides that, they've
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: always been ahead of each team and dominant for each team.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: But Like I said, I'm not celebrating Roma's early start
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: just yet because I said it in a couple episodes ago.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: What have you really played against that's really been like?
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: You played Fiorentina Lecce. You played Atalanta, which you beat
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: them 2-1. But Atalanta's sitting in the bottom half of
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the table right now. You know what I'm saying? It's like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: who are you really playing against to really be excited
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: for this just now? This is the test. This is
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: a six-point game.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: This is what Roma.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Roma-Inter right now is a six-point game, and it's reminding
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: me so much of the post-Calciopoli era, where it's just
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: like it was Roma-Inter the whole way, Spalletti versus Mourinho
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: and stuff, and it's like now I'd like for Roma
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: to get on top of that instead of having Inter
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: get on top of that for their 1-2 battle for second.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honestly interesting, and again, whoever's making the schedules
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: at Serie A, man, they've been especially early on, they've
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: been hitting some big games early on in the season. So, um,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: definitely excited to see this one. I think, uh, you
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: said it perfect, uh, Johnny, it's, uh, it's a six
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: point swing, um, very early on in the season. Again,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: we'll say Scudetto, uh, type of game, uh, even though
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: it's so early. Um, but another point and it's, it's,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: it's to Inter is never say die. Uh, they've, they've
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: done it now two weeks in a row. Um, Obviously,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: we know, you know, two goal lead in sports is
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: the worst lead to have. But, you know, in cultural,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: it's a bit tougher to really, you know, kind of
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: build up. And sometimes you go down two and it's like, okay,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: now it's a real fight to come back. But, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Inter finds a way. And they're doing it, you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: with multiple players. Like, it's not just one or two
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: guys that they're really leaning on. It's really been a
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: collective effort for this Inter team, which for them and
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: their fans is obviously a positive. Like, just even today,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: you know, Turam comes in. scores, Pio Esposito scores, Boni scores.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I think their only attacker they didn't score was Lautaro,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. So, um, and that's saying something
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: because he's usually the guy, uh, to lean on. So, um, I,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, for Inter's sake, they're dangerous in
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: all aspects. Uh, they can hurt you in many different
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: ways and they have that never fight, never say die attitude. So, uh, and,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: and there seems to be bringing back their Pazza Inter days.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: So that's something to look out for. Obviously, um, I'm
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: curious to see how the game starts. Honestly, I'm curious
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to see how it plays out the first 15, 20 minutes.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Who's going to take the game by the horns and
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: really go for it? Is it going to be a
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: sit-back-and-counter type of game for any of these teams, or
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: is somebody going to really take the game to the other?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to see how that pans out.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Again, if Roma.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Goes up, I think they have to continue to pile
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: it on just for the simple fact of what we
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: just said.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: You know, Inter, it's not enough, two goals.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Three goals might not be enough, you know, so they're
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: really going to have to continue putting, you know, their
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: foot on the pedal, on the gas, and continue on
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: if they want to beat this Inter team. And at
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, Gianni, I don't know how
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: you feel being a Romanista, but, you know, A draw,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the worst case scenario in
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: this matchup either way.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I don't feel about that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: It's not the worst, but it's more like you also
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: have Lazio's been on fire and Como is a sneaky team, right?
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: So this is a game where it's like a draw
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: just puts them back into the fight. Whereas if you
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: get one of them to win, you build up a
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: bit of a cushion. So I'm not saying I'll be
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: unhappy with a draw. That's not what I'm trying to say.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that obviously... it's, it's such, it's so standard.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: It's such a vanilla answer, but it's the truth. You'd
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: rather the win. You're okay with the draw. You don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: want the loss. That's as vanilla as it sounds like
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: there's no way to, you don't have to go deep
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: into this. You don't have to go deep.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: It is what it is. Right.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: For both sides, for both sides, if you're an, if
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: you're an interista or a romanista, either way, both make sense.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I totally agree. Uh, it's, it's, it's
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: well said.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: And, um, Maybe it's the Milan in front of me
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: just saying, let's these guys draw so we can try
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to climb the ladder a bit here or climb the table.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: But no, at the end of the day, I think
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: it's going to be two good teams going battle on
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the weekend and let the best team win.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: You brought up Lazio. I feel like a perfect transition
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: with the crazy game. That was another comeback game for
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: another Milan-based team, right? Lazio goes up 2-0. And then,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: what was it? Moreira? Moreira?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Moreira, yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Moreira.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Probably can't say that name. You know, decides that he's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: going to put the game in his hands. It's a,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you know, new acquisition under Amorino that, you know, came in.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: You know, he looked impressive in that Juve game. You know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I'll admit he was a player I didn't really know
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: anything of. Didn't even know he joined Milan, this and that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And he looked impressive in that Juve game. So for
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: him to score Two goals against Lazio and the comeback
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: win was, you know, I wouldn't say not surprising, but,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: you know, it suits the player, right? Coming into the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: new league, you know, it looks impressive in his first
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: few games, comes out with a bang. But for Lazio, it's,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: they're an interesting team because they're a team that we
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: all thought would not do so well coming into the season.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I even predicted Gattuso to be first coach fired.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: They come out 2-0 win, you know, 2-0 lead right away.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking right away, like, Oh, man, we're going
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to talk a lot of positivity about Lazio, but I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was something that– I will admit,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I watched a bit of the first half because it
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was like one of those lunchtime games. I was able
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to watch a bit while eating there, but I didn't
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: get to watch the second half. I don't know, Adrian,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: if it was something that Lazio fell apart or maybe
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Milan just came back.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Well, a couple of things.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: You know, for me, we say that a lot on
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: this show, but tale of two halves, I think this game,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: you know, exemplified that to the purest of forms. You know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: it was all, it was pretty much all lots, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the first half, getting those early two goals. Milan defensively,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. The start in 11,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I think, was the first thing that, you know, some
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: or most Milan fans kind of were scratching their head
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: about a bit and, you know, like, why are we seeing,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: you know, Loftus-Cheek or why are we seeing, you know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: certain players when there's been others, like, you know, okay,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: we saw Truque's start, but a guy like Moussa, who's
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: surprisingly been playing well this season, doesn't get the starting minutes,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: comes off the bench, makes an impact. Pulisic hasn't made
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: an appearance all season. You know, we thought maybe he
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: can start this game. comes on in the second half,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: makes an impact. Obviously, Diego Moreira, for me, I would
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: disagree with your point. Nick, in the Juve game. For me,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I think he was a deer in the headlights. He
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: didn't look good at all, in my personal opinion. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: think that was, you know, first off, it was surprising
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: to see him in that match for his first, you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: appearance for the team in the game against Juve. For me,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: he didn't look too good, didn't look too impressive, but again,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: you've got to temper the expectations a bit. I think, obviously,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: him coming on in the second half made an impact
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: as well, along with Moussa and Pulisic. But again, we
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: were looking at the lineup and it's like, Loftus-Chik is starting,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Estupinian is starting, you know, people were even commenting about
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Modric because, you know, kind of what Amrim was trying
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: to do and Modric at his age, is he still
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: able to press the way, you know, he wants him
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: to do and are we kind of at a loss
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: with him in the lineup? Again, that's a whole other conversation,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: but it's just a bit of a weird one for me.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: And they go down two goals early on. And I think,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: you know, defensive errors and just, you know, not like
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Estupinan on the first goal by Cancelieri, it was just like,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: had no eyes on him, let him get behind. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: he got the better of him, of Estupinan, and he
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: puts it, you know, past Mike. And the second one,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: just a weird, you know, great build-up way by Lazio,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, and a great play to, you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: have the opportunity to score, but just a weird bounce
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: in the winter off of Noslin and just, I don't
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: even know how that goes off, you know, off the crossbar,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: comes down, swipe of a leg, bounce off the guy's
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: head and it kind of goes in and, you know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: we see ourselves down 2-0 and, you know, it seems,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: it was like, okay, when is this going to pick
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: up and I don't know what was said in the
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: locker room at halftime, but maybe they hadn't, you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you know, some of that, uh, Mike secret stuff, right.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, uh, space jam. I don't know what they, if
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: they had, you know, Mike secret stuff, you know, with the,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: in the, in the, in the water bottle, I don't
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: know what it was.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: But, uh, something was said, something was, was, uh, was
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: planned out in the, in, you know, the locker room
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: at halftime and, you know, coming out, you know, making
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the initial, the changes right away.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, like I alluded to, right. Pulisic, Moussa and Diego Marrera, right.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Coming on right away, uh, to try to shake up
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: the game, change the game and, That's exactly what they
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: did as soon as, you know, they kind of came on.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: And as the game was going on, it seemed like the,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: you know, the tides were turning a bit and the
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: momentum was shifting. And I think Milan was finally starting to,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: you know, play their game and take it to Lazio
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: after they were getting kind of bullied in the first half.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And again, credit to Lazio for really putting up a
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: great fight. I think it was a good, it was
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: a good game for, you know, I guess the neutral,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: but as fans of the teams, I think, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: As Milan fans, we wanted to start off in the
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: first half better. And we liked the second half. And
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's the opposite for Lazio fans. They love
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: to start, hate to finish. So, again, just heads up
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: play by Moreira. I think he was very lively coming
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: off the bench. Pulisic as well. Moussa, I don't know
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: what it is. Also, again, the confidence of the manager
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: in the player. He even said it in a press conference.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: It does wonders for a player when, you know, you.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Have the backing of your manager.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: And, you know, Ambrim has backed some of these players
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: and it seems to be paying off. Now, if he
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: just stops being stubborn and picking, you know, the loftiest
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: cheeks of the world and the Estupinans as.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Starters, I think we'd be in a better place. But,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: you know, great for the team to come back.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I think the two goals in two minutes, because I
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: think Morera comes on and, you know, instantly makes an
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: impact on that, on that left flank, bolting up and down,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: being aggressive, getting.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Into the play.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to compare because I hate to
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: do these comparisons, but, you know, on the papers in
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: the Italian papers, you know, they were saying, you know, Marrera,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: you know, a game a la, a la Teo Hernandez, right?
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Scoring these goals a la Teo Hernandez. And we saw
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: that a lot with Teo, right? You know, those incredible
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: goals with that left foot on the left flank, you know,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: being decisive in games and, I'm not going to compare because,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: you know, Teo gave us some great moments and some
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: great goals at Milan. But if Herrera can continue like this,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, it's a real plus on that
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: left flank. And he scores two goals in two minutes
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: and ties the game. It's a shame because I think
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: in back-to-back games now, Milan have let points slip, which
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: for me hurts because looking at the game, you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: once it's done and we kind of reflect on the game,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: it's like, man, those were points that could have could
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: have been grabbed and could have been, you know, all
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: three instead of just one. But at the end of
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: the day, we'll take, they'll take the, we'll take the one, one, sorry,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: the two.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Two, sorry.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And another draw. And, and we go on to, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: think it's Lecce over the weekend after the Europa League match.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: So stuff to build on. And I think Amram said
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: it well, you know, they played well, but we can't
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: continue playing games only for one half and we really
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: have to play a full 90 minutes plus. So I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: think if they can, gather themselves to play their way
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: for a full 90 minutes plus, I think, you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: they'll be on a good path. And, you know, I think,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: you know, they'll have better results going forward. And it's
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: going to be tough also just because this top of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: the table, as we've seen, guys, and, you know, the
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: ticker constantly goes on down below here, it's really, you know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: crowded at the top.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, from Roma down to, who is it?
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Frosinone, I saw, Cagliari, like Atalanta, like in that, in
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: that range, right? And it's like, it's teams that you
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: weren't thinking, Napoli's not even in that conversation, right?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Like in terms of points yet, like as of right now.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: So a lot to play for, a lot of important
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: points early on in the season. And for Milan's sake,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: if they can string up, you know, again, like I said,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: 90 minutes plus of, of their brand of football, I think, you.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Know, they'll be on a good path.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Talking about 90 minutes, Juve, that was, uh, That was
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a frustrating game, to say the least. As a Juve fan,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a game. Look, obviously not to disrespect
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Sassuolo or anything, but it's a game you want to
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: see them go out and win. And, you know, for
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Sassuolo to score first. And the first half, Juve had
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: their chances, but it was lack of finishing. That was frustrating.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of wing play. And I think.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: You know, that's one thing Juve focused on in the,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you know, transfer window is improving the wingers. And I
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: think they did. They have some good wingers now while
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: keeping Conte Sao and Zagrova from last season, you know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: adding Alaj Begovic, you know, okay. Yes. Yildiz is hurt
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: right now too. You know, Boga, even, you know, bringing
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: back Nico, Nico Gonzalez from loan as well. So they
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: have a lot of wingers, a lot of similar players.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of, their downfall too, because
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: right now the strikers just aren't doing it. You know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: four games in, zero goals from strikers. You let three
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: guys go between Openda, Jonathan David and Vovic. You bring
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in two guys that can't score any goals while the
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: three other guys have combined, I think. I mean, I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: sent you guys the stats for like six goals.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Seven.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Seven goals.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: In their respective games, including Vovic getting a hat trick.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, At a certain point, I think it's a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: system at this point when you have these rotating cast
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: of guys and none of them can do well. I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: worry it's going to be like Milan from last season
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: where their strikers are going to combine for one goal.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: So right now, Juve does have to rely on their wingers.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: And first half, they had a lot of chances, a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: lot of crosses that no one got on. And as
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I always say, the longer you go, you know, the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: door opens up for Sassuolo and that's exactly what happened
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: in their first goal from Sebastiano Esposito. And, you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: they scored that. I was like, shit, you know, it's
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: going to be one of those games, a 1-0 loss.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Tied it up, you know, Zagrovo comes on. He was
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: fantastic coming on. He was a player that, you know,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: last season, he shows good flashes and he's a creative player,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't finish well. And that's exactly, he did
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the opposite against Sassuolo. Two goals coming off the bench,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: but the defense for me was just awful, awful. Bremer,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: awful challenge on the second goal, leading to basically a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: three-on-two going the other way. What was it? Kululu and
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Zedlik were back. They really couldn't do much. And then,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: you know, to push everyone up for a winning goal,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I get the mentality. You want three points.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And one thing I said last year, guys, Juve would
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: tie a lot of games late and they'd celebrate, right?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And I'd say... Can't be celebrating a draw. You know, whatever.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Go for the win. And they didn't do that, you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: after Jagova's second goal.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: But there's a certain point. You can only push for
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a win so much, right? Let your attackers attack. But
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: your defenders need to stay back. And they just, everyone
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: went up. And they just left it wide open for Sassuolo. And,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: of course, it's Juve Loni. Ajic with the goal. The
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: guy who scored last year against Inter. late goal. And
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: then how he does it against Juve, obviously no celebration on,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: on the goal, but it's like times like this, you
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: wish we were like England where a lone player wouldn't
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: play against his parent club. But you know, if it
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't Agios, it'd be someone else on that, that, that,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: but basically three on O. So for me, I think
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that comes down to coaching, to, to leadership, just having
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the smarts.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: They want three points. It's tiring tying so many games,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: especially now. It would have been two ties in a row.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, hindsight's 20-20, but you'd rather a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: point than no points. You know, how about this, guys?
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe just score more goals and allow less goals during
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the game, and then you don't have to worry about
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: pushing at the end. I don't know, crazy concept.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: This is like a vanilla analogy after vanilla analogy over here.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: This is a vanilla episode. No, but you're right. At
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, you're right. I mean, it's
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: a shame, but that forward duo or whatever you want
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: to call it has to wake up.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Again, I was on like a broken record last year with,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: you know, the Milan attack. And even for Milan's sake,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: you know, Gonzalo Ramos only has one goal as an attacker,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: as a forward.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: He's our number nine. So I'm not going to say
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: it's so much better on our end.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I think, you know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: for Juve, I think it's also tough because that tying
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: goal by Gatti doesn't happen. And then this, and let's
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: say this loss would have, would have occurred. Like it's
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: even more alarming. Like I would think, I don't know because,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: you know, they were, they were two minutes away from,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: from losing last game. And, you know, they ended up
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: losing this game at the very end as well. So it's,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know, something's going to have to give, I
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's, they're just going to have to
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: hold on until the winter market and, and maybe make another,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: another move or so, because it's, I don't know if
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: they can continue like this, you know, just to coast
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: and hope that, you know, one of their 20 wingers
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: are going to score, you know, goals or a defender
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: is going to score or a midfielder. But at the
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: end of the day, I think, you know, it seems
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: like upper management is still behind Spalletti.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel, Nick, but somebody's going
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: to have to give.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not firing him. No, no, no, no.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They're still backing him.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: So like, it's, you're going to have to, we're going
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: to have like, as Juve fans, you're going to have
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: to kind of just ride this, ride this wave.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I feel.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, and, and what I was saying before,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: my whole point was like, you know, just be better
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: in the game that you don't have to rely on
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: these 90 minute, 90 minute, 90th minute goals, you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. And, you know, that's what I'm,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I am looking forward to Thursday, Europa League, just change
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the pace, different competition, different, You know, it's not the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: pressure from the Champions League. We don't know anything about
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: this NEC and NEC team. They finished third in the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Dutch division last season. But it's a dangerous game. It's
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a trap game. It's easy to lose these type of games.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: But go out and just regain that confidence. And I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: think this weekend they play Atalanta. So it's another tough game.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It's in Atalanta. They always struggle there. So it's tough
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: because then also... international breaks coming up after this weekend.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: They're off from two weeks.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: They're off two weekends. So they're, they play this weekend
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and then the last weekend of September, first weekend of October,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: they're off. No city.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Just focus on the Italian national team. Yeah. Um, yeah. Uh,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: guys actually, while we're on that topic, uh, Italian national team, um, we're,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: cause we're going to get the call up soon, right?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Probably this weekend in a week from now, we'll probably
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: have the list. Is there anyone that, uh, Any players
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: that have surprised you so far this season in the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: city that you think should be called up? I know
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: it's curveball, but I'm going to throw Pizzilli from Roma.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: I was about to say Pizzilli.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Probably recency buys because he scored today.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, no, Pizzilli is like, no, but he's
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: also been performing lately. It's been good. Yeah, no, Pizzilli
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: was like the one I was like, yeah, out of
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: all the non-regulars, give him a shot, but he's in form.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll be biasing through in Cissé' s name.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's just another... It's another obvious
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: one for Milan fans and just, you know, I think
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: fans of the league, I think, have kind of noticed
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: his play.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: And it's not that he's just coming off the bench.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You know, he's starting games.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: He has the backing of Amorim and, you know, scored
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: a couple of goals now.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And I think, again, young, obviously. Very, very young. But every....
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Other day, it seems like I'm seeing on social media,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, Mancini's looking, oh, Mancini was at
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: this game looking at this player, and it seems to
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: be another, like, young player, young player, young player. So
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to see if he kind of does, like,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: what they've done in the past, where they kind of bring, like,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: just an onslaught of guys and then break it down to,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: you know, just, you know, the players that they actually need,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: just to get a lot of those guys in the camp.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: It's two weeks, guys. We don't see that too often.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Where they kind of blend the, you know, the international
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: break with two windows into one, basically. So it's four
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: games and it's a lot of, you know, I think
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: time to build, to team build, especially with this quote-unquote
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: new era under Mancini 2.0. I think it would be
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: a positive thing to bring a lot of these, you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: these names that we've been seeing on social media and
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: these players that we've kind of been eyeing on, you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: these younger players to bring on and All these dual
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: nationals have been seen as well, right? You know, obviously
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: the Tresoldi one is a bit of a strange one
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: for me. With, you know, the German national team, I
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: saw the guy from Cagliari, I think it is, Romano,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: you know, switching over from Swiss, I believe.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: To Italy.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: And obviously the big one is that fans are looking
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: towards is Ignacio, right? He's another one for Dortmund, if
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: he's going to accept to be on board with Italy,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: which I think if Italy's smart.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: They do that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: So, again, in Serie A, I think, yeah, Pizzilli, but
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Pizzilli has been called up before, but I would like
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: to see him there, obviously, as another young Italian. I'm
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: going to throw in Cissé' s name. I'm just trying to
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: think on the top of my head. who else has
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: been kind of popping off?
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, Fratezzi's been good.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Fratezzi's been good.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I think he has the most goals under Mancini, if
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, in his first tenure. I think over
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: his tenure, I think Fratezzi had one of the top
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: goal-scoring records.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: It was under Mancini? Was it under Spalletti?
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Was it under Spalletti? We're going to have to fact-check that,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: but I could have sworn it was under Mancini. Anyways, Fratezzi,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: that's obviously another obvious one. thank you for pointing out
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: johnny but um yeah i mean like i don't know
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: i'm trying to think of like who else just a
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: lot of the the young like i said just a
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: lot of the young players that we've been seeing i
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: think hopefully just get called up just to just to
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: bring them into the system like get them called up
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: get them integrated into this into this um again quote
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: unquote revolution or uh you know another another window of
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: of opportunity for these uh for these italian players and Um,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to see how that, uh, how that pans out.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Um, you know, Coyote, right.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Obviously from the premier league that we're naming, you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about to said, yeah, you know, hopefully, you know,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: we can see a player like him kind of get reintegrated, uh,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: in the squad, you know, um, just trying to think
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: of who else I can think of, but.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Too bad Franco Monsanto was already, was already called up
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: by Argentina. Cause that would have been a perfect, uh, Yeah.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Name already floating.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Well, he has Italian background, but it's, it's a shame,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously the Argentinians, but, but yeah, again, there's,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: there's definitely other names, but you know, I don't know.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's an interesting one. I would
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: like to see yellow.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I would like to see, I would like to see tomorrow.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would like to see Richie get back in,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: in the, in the fold of things.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Obviously now I've been at Como.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I would like to see Ligurawi get called up.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Like, even though these guys haven't gotten like super minutes,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I would just like to see them get called up
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: in the system, uh, just to, even if they're not
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: going to play, like just to get like integrated. I
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: think that's my point that I'm trying to make is
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, like four games
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: played over a two week span, two international breaks, quote unquote,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: you know, blended into one. I think it's a perfect
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: time to team build. At the end of the day,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: that's what it is, right? With, you know, if the
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: group is strong, you know, I think it's, it's, it's
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: a positive, uh, for Italy.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: So let's hope, uh, By the way, for Tennessee, he
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: scored eight goals for Italy between June 2023 and October 2024.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: So that was all under Spalletti.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: It was under Spalletti?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: It was all under Spalletti.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: I take that back.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I take it back. But anyways, you know, positive, positive player.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anything else you guys want to cover? I mean,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Massantono hat-trick. I know we used to do the MVPs,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: red cards, yellow cards a week.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: You haven't thrown a Massantono for an MVP of the week.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: We haven't gone through the games like that in a while. Yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: it was a first win, right, for Fiorentina?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. First win, you know, first hat-trick, or second hat-trick, actually,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: in the league after Mullen. I think for that topic,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: for Fiorentina, and just for you know, their win, uh,
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: against Venezia, I think it was just, um, finally, I
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: think like it's been what now four games and they
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: finally get their first win or just finally get their
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: first positive performance. Again, I know it's against, you know, uh,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, a relegation quote unquote type team in Venezia,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: which we'll see where they end.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Up at the end of the season.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I don't think it really matters for
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Fiorentina at this point. They already fired a manager, right?
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Grosso's the first one to go. We didn't predict that, unfortunately,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: this year. I could have sworn it would have been
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Juric by now, but it seems like it had to
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: have been Grosso, unfortunately. And Vinole comes back and again,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: not many fans or people probably super psyched out for that,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: for that move to kind of bring him back after
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: letting him go to bring in.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Grosso, you know, over the, over the summer.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, he comes back,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: he's familiar with obviously the environment and what to expect.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Obviously a bit of a, obviously a lot of a
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: new roster. But, you know, finally getting Mastantuono going. This
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: is a player that, you know, from, I think it
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: was River Plate that he came from to Real Madrid
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: that was going to seem to be the next coming of,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: you know, Jesus Bambino and he comes to Fiorentina and
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: miraculously and, you know, finally gets going and scores a hat-trick.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: So, you know, positive for that. We'll see where.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: This springboards to, if it springboards to anything. Because at
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, Fiorentina needs results and they're
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: going to need them, they're going to start needing them
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: piling up, like, you know, sooner rather than later, so, um, I'm,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: you know, happy for that, I think it just seems
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: to be a, you know, a good, uh, a good,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: finally a good step in the right direction after the three, uh,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: just embarrassing defeats under Grosso to start off the season, um,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: it's a shame to see another, you know, 06 legend
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: kind of get burned like this, but they've done it
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: to themselves, it seemed like at this point, so, um,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: you know, it's, it's, it's, we'll see what happens, but,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: And we'll see what Vanoe does. Again, I don't think
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: the expectations could be super high, but if they're able
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: to kind of just gain their momentum again and get
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: on the right path, I think they have enough players
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: and the squad to kind of be competitive for, we'll see, mid-table,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: even up to seven, maybe conference league spots. But for Fintan,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: it's going to have to be one game at a time.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Another one that I would like to say is Cagliari.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Uh, right.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Caleri making a, making a weird start of the season
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: and a positive start of the season to one victory, uh,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: over the weekend, uh, against Atlanta.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had, they beat Atlanta.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Atlanta.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, two goals to one Maldini on the
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: score sheet again for, for Caleri. It's, uh, just another
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: surprise team kind of floating in that upper echelon of
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: the table. Um, we've seen it in the past guys, like,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: it seems like almost every other year or every year
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: we see that one random team that's up there where
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: they're not quote-unquote supposed to be, but they end up
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: hanging around there. I always go back to the spa
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: days of when they were on top of Serie A
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: for a little bit there and all those years ago.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: And again, Caleri is under Pizzacane, a young manager, kind
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: of came up the ranks with the organization. And yeah,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: seems to be doing, you know, well enough to, to be, uh,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: you know, in a, in a position where they're at
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: currently and, and getting results against, you know, the likes
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: of Atalanta, which like it or not, it's not a
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: pushover team, even though we didn't have them kind of
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: super high on the rankings this season, but Saudi as
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: a coach, we, we, you know, love him or hate him,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: you know, he's going to get results at one point
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: or another at some point. So, uh, which he already
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: had and to see how that he, you know, get, uh,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: get points like that. I think, uh, was huge.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: And, um, even just not wait, right.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: The one nil, Johnny, I think, uh, I don't know
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: what you thought of the game, but, uh, one nil
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: against Bologna, La Boca celebration from Allegri killed me on
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: the videos that I had seen.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: So, um, it's, it's, you gotta, you gotta wait with
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: murder there because the goal gets called back, which I'm like,
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: is that really, like, is that really offside? Okay, I'll
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: take it. Like, I'm not going to argue. It's the
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: shoulder things. It's like, all right. Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Uh, I'm not going to go. And then Lubaka, who
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: was just in the right spot at the right time. Uh,
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: they dodged a bullet and every game, like this was
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: a game where it could have been another inter situation
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: or another Como situation where it's like, it's just like, it's,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: there's just that one thing that's always fucking them over.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: So I just, I'm just going to make it quick
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: because I know we're reaching, uh, time, but, It's nice
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: to get back in the win column, but your offense
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: needs to start clicking. Hoyland is a little bit cold lately.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: He's getting chances. It's not as if he's not trying,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: you know. But De Bruyne is playing well in the
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: absence of McFatham. You know what I mean? It's good.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: It's because that means he's not aging. So we're kind
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: of happy with that. I don't know how I can
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: explain it. I think it's just Allegheny is trying to
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: come in and establish a system that the players are
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: not used to. And I think this is the growing
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: period of it, the growing pains. And because of that
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: growing pain, I don't think this is a year that
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Napoli will compete for Scudetto because of it. How is
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: the season going on? Like, I predicted them to win
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: this year because I'm like, oh, Allegri, you know, he's
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: a coach that could win leagues. And, you know, the Cortomuzo, like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: has success. But not only Milan, it has had success
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: with Juve, even though it was a better Juve team
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: than he inherited from uh, from Conte, he still had
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: to win those Scudetti. You know what I'm saying? Like
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: he still won those Scudetti. So, uh, ever since then,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: it's just, you know, he hasn't been the same, but nonetheless,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, maybe, but now we're looking at these games.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, they're the, the players.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Aren't retracting your statement, Jenny.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not retracting my statement. I'm like, well, I'm getting
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: proven wrong. I'm getting proven wrong because the players are
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: just not adapting to the system just yet. Yes.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: It's a win. We're happy.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: It's all good and all, but, um, It's a win
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: with an asterisk, I would like to say. It's something
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: where it's like, yeah, you take the three points, you
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: go home with it, right? But just be wary for
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: the next game. Don't buy into the fact that they're like, oh, yeah,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: we're good, we're fine.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: No, we're not.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: We're not.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: And it's nice to have this international break coming up
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: after this next game because you get more time for
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: McDonnell to recover. He says he's ready to train with
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: the team in a few weeks anyway. So after... after
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: international break you'll start training with him again we.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Could probably see him sooner rather than later.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Then yeah which was crazy because they initially gave him
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: a two-month period now it's like seemed like it's also
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: gonna be a month only it was a minor thing
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: it's like it wasn't even something like even though it
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: was a heart surgery it was a minor thing it's
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: like as if it's something where it's like it's like
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: it's not a big problem it's like life or death
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: but it could become one later on if you don't
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: okay yeah that's what it was it was just like
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: like let's just it's just a, it's a minor like
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: irregularity and rhythm or whatever. It's like, it's not going to,
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: it's not, it's not anything to like, Oh shit, we
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: got to stop everything right now. No, no, but it's,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: but it could become something dangerous.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: So.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: And the league has been on top of that, especially
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: after what we've seen, you know, obviously, you know, the story, the, uh, uh, situation.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Erickson, right?
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Like the league has really taken it seriously. So, you know,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: kudos for that, obviously.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: So, so you got it done. Uh, so we'll see
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: him sooner than later. Uh, Maybe the midfield changes up
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: a bit because right now that's the one area that's
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: kind of hurting. And if Allegri decides to go with
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: a pivot of Dirk Reuner and McFratema with Lobotka in
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: the back, supporting the defensive side of things, because Anguissa
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: just hasn't been it this year. But Anguissa on rotation
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: with Lobotka might actually be good. I think this can
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: be a good thing coming soon. But it takes time.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: It takes Napoli for Allegheny to go back to a 4-3-3.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: You couldn't do that at Milan, apparently.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Fuck, we were screaming for it. It seemed like he
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: was blind to the 4-3-3. But Napoli, week one, 4-3-3,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: ready to go.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: It's all action.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: But just another name I would probably throw in, now
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: that you brought up Napoli, just came up, Favasui.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Throw him up there. Bring him up.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Bring him to the national team. Vergara, too, I would
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: like to see integrated well as well because it's a
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: player that, you know, 23 years old, I believe, or
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: something like that. And it's now we got to get
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: on these players to kind of, you know, grow with
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: the national team. So if anything, we're already too late,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: like behind schedule. So, yeah, those are other names. Favasui,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I think, is, you know, coming from Catanzaro, yeah, from
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: my season.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: On that Catanzaro team with, you know, Cisse and, you know,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Favasui was on that team, you know, making the jump.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: To big clubs in Serie A and getting some minutes and,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: you know, making, making some, some plays and some actions
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: so far in the early parts of the season, I
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: think is a plus. So I would throw in Fabio Suli,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: bring him up because he, like, again, he, he's obviously
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: in a battle with the position that he plays with,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: you know, the, the palestras of the world and, you know, the,
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: you know, potentially, you know, the coyotes of the world and,
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: and whoever's going to play at right back for the
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Italian national team.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: But, Bring him into the system.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: He's been a staple for the U21s, I believe, and
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: it's exciting.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: To see him getting some now minutes that would not wait.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Just another thing I would want to throw out there.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: In a week like Serie A that we didn't think
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: would ever happen, but after four weeks, no nil-nil draws,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I think has been the craziest stat line of all
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: time for Serie A or anybody that covers Serie A
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: would probably hopefully think the same because we're used to
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: seeing nil-nil draws. After the first four match days of
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: the Serie A season so far, no 0-0, no nil,
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: no draws so far.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I was stunned, Nick. I don't know about you, but
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I was just a bit shocked. It was crazy to see.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: See i'm also not that i'm surprised but like the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: way it's just been like going around social media like
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: even the city out today posted.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: All the scores yeah yeah because even though even them
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: they're shocked.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah find the zero zero uh we'll see we'll see
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: we'll I feel like one more week, no draws, but
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: then teams are going to.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Come back from the international break.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: You might have like three of them. Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: But hey, listen, it's something.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Because by now, by week four, match day four in
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Serie A, even just last season, we would have seen
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: already a handful of 0-0 draws.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: So exciting times. Obviously, big weekend.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Obviously, last weekend before international break, the biggest game, like
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: we mentioned earlier, Inter-Roma. I don't know if there's any
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: other big games. I didn't check on the ticker here, but.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Is there any? Yeah, I think I have to pull
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: up the schedule again.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest. It's the biggest game.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: No, Atalanta, Juve, like I said.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, true.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Sorry, it's actually in Torino. Juve, Atalanta.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much it.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: And is it Inter-Roma or is it Roma-Inter?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Roma-Inter. Roma-Inter. I'm going to throw in you to Nezah
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Kaladi just because Kaladi is having a good start to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the season. Fifth place.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Fifth place. So, yeah, that will pretty much do it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: But another great conversation, guys. Like I said, tomorrow, by
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the time you listen to this, maybe today, Supra is
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: in Hamilton, spotting the Canadian Championship on the line. Same
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: thing with Montreal. They're hosting the Whitecaps here in Montreal
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday. So, forts of both Montreal teams. And hopefully,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: we'll get an all-Montreal final. But if not, Adrian, where
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: can people find us on social media?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: And if.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: And if only one makes it, let it be the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: better one. We'll just say it there. And you guys,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: if you know, you know. But yeah, Forza Supra.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: We had a great conversation last week with our good
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: friend Anthony Corneli last week. And just, yeah, man, just
• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Supra tomorrow. 90 minutes away, right? Like Corneli said last week,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: 90 minutes away from a potential Can-Champ final.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: So Forza Supra.
• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:23
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