Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / NT Council of Government School Organisations President Tabby Fudge says support for indigenous people is the way to make the Tennant Creek school safer for staff and students
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Last week, we did, indeed speak about the fact that
- 0:02Speaker 1: teachers at Tenant Creek High School had signed a letter
- 0:04Speaker 1: to the Northern Territory Education Department stating that every one
- 0:08Speaker 1: of them felt unsafe at work, describing those conditions as
- 0:11Speaker 1: traumatizing for students and staff. There have been reports of violence,
- 0:15Speaker 1: assaults and danger for students and staff who've accompanied Will
- 0:20Speaker 1: have accompanied the letter with desperate calls made for more support.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Now joining me to chat about this and what's being
- 0:26Speaker 1: felt in the community is the President of the Northern
- 0:29Speaker 1: Territory Council of Government Schools Organizations, Tabby Fudge. Good boarding
- 0:34Speaker 1: to you, Tabby, Good morning Katie, and good morning to
- 0:37Speaker 1: your listeners. Tabby. Have you spoken to members of the
- 0:41Speaker 1: community and indeed parents of that school and what are
- 0:44Speaker 1: they telling you.
- 0:46Speaker 2: I've spoken with our regional rap out at the Berkley Region,
- 0:51Speaker 2: and yeah, there is some negative behavior going on in
- 0:56Speaker 2: the schools over there, and obviously, you know we've seen
- 1:01Speaker 2: the culmination of that in a quite a desperate plea
- 1:03Speaker 2: for help from the teachers at our school over there,
- 1:06Speaker 2: which is quite heartbreaking.
- 1:09Speaker 1: It is bloody heartbreaking, Tabby. To put it, you know,
- 1:13Speaker 1: to put it mildly. What are they saying is going
- 1:16Speaker 1: on at the school.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Well, essentially, as described in the letter from the teachers
- 1:23Speaker 2: is that you know, they're concerned about their personal safety
- 1:28Speaker 2: and also the safety of the students in a in
- 1:31Speaker 2: the learning environment. So you know, it's not a good situation.
- 1:36Speaker 2: There have been quite a few suggestions of things that
- 1:41Speaker 2: could help the situation out there in TenneT Creek, and
- 1:44Speaker 2: that would be things like, you know, having cultural advisors
- 1:49Speaker 2: in the school and you know, ideally that would be
- 1:52Speaker 2: something that would be happening in every single classroom, and
- 1:55Speaker 2: it's something that COGSO has been advocating for years because
- 2:00Speaker 2: you know, we've got to remember about in the remote communities,
- 2:04Speaker 2: a lot of these students, English is not a first language,
- 2:08Speaker 2: sometimes not even a second, third or fourth language, so
- 2:11Speaker 2: it's really it's absolutely essential that we have somebody in
- 2:14Speaker 2: those classrooms that can speak the local language and is
- 2:18Speaker 2: also cognizant of the local sign languages. We've got to
- 2:22Speaker 2: remember too, that a lot of these kids have some
- 2:25Speaker 2: degree of hearing loss. Up to eighty percent of them
- 2:27Speaker 2: have a degree of hearing loss. So it's a really
- 2:30Speaker 2: it's a challenging environment out there and We've known these
- 2:34Speaker 2: things for a long time and we need, you know,
- 2:36Speaker 2: a certain provision in the classroom to overcome these challenges.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And tabby By. The sounds of it, like some of
- 2:44Speaker 1: what you're saying there doesn't sound as though it's you know,
- 2:47Speaker 1: it's so hard that it's not going to be able
- 2:49Speaker 1: to happen. It actually sounds like it's quite doable. Yeah.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I think a lot of the issue it always comes
- 2:58Speaker 2: back down to funding, you know, to supply you know,
- 3:02Speaker 2: an extra teacher aide in each classroom, depending on how
- 3:05Speaker 2: many classrooms you have in a school. You know, that
- 3:09Speaker 2: can add up. And we know that our education system
- 3:13Speaker 2: is underfunded. You know, we don't have enough funds to
- 3:17Speaker 2: meet the need in our schools. But I think too
- 3:21Speaker 2: we need to see greater partnerships happening between community organizations,
- 3:25Speaker 2: particularly you know, our indigenous organizations and a pinch and
- 3:30Speaker 2: see what partnerships can be formed there with the Department
- 3:33Speaker 2: of Education and these peak indigenous groups. Because it's only
- 3:37Speaker 2: when we get community involvement and community buying are we
- 3:42Speaker 2: going to see any change. You know. And as I've
- 3:44Speaker 2: always said, and it's probably getting a bit cliche, a
- 3:47Speaker 2: you know, our schools are a microposm of our society.
- 3:49Speaker 2: If we can get it right now schools, we'll see
- 3:52Speaker 2: that really positive flow on affect into our wider communities
- 3:56Speaker 2: and tabby.
- 3:56Speaker 1: If we can't get it right, do you think that
- 3:58Speaker 1: we're going to find it difficult to recruit and retain
- 4:02Speaker 1: staff but also you know, to get families to move
- 4:06Speaker 1: to Tenant create.
- 4:09Speaker 2: I think absolutely. You know, this kind of publicity is
- 4:12Speaker 2: out there around what's happening in certain schools, it's not
- 4:15Speaker 2: going to be incredibly attractive to people who were considering
- 4:19Speaker 2: locating to Tenant Creek, and you know also for families
- 4:24Speaker 2: living there. You know how you know, you want your
- 4:27Speaker 2: child to feel safe at school, You want your child
- 4:30Speaker 2: to be in a positive learning environment at school, and
- 4:33Speaker 2: you know those you know, very basic elements aren't there.
- 4:39Speaker 2: You would question, you know, the viability of remaining there.
- 4:43Speaker 2: And I think too, you know, Michelle Air is the
- 4:46Speaker 2: president of the AEU, brings up some parely valid points too.
- 4:51Speaker 2: You know, when it comes to you know, teacher pay
- 4:55Speaker 2: and you know the current EBA it's under negotiation, and
- 5:00Speaker 2: you know, effectively teachers are looking at a pay cut.
- 5:03Speaker 2: So you know when you've got southern states like New
- 5:06Speaker 2: South Wales and Victoria offering incentives to relocate. You know,
- 5:10Speaker 2: you've got a question how attractive does that make that
- 5:13Speaker 2: particular school, or any of the schools in the Northern
- 5:16Speaker 2: Territory for that matter. And you know, we are suffering
- 5:19Speaker 2: a shortage of teachers nationwide, and you know, for a
- 5:23Speaker 2: small system like the Northern Territories education system, you know,
- 5:31Speaker 2: staff shortages, you know, it makes things really really difficult.
- 5:36Speaker 1: It most certainly does well, Tabby. I wish we had
- 5:39Speaker 1: a bit more time. It's always great to talk to you.
- 5:41Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Katie, have a great day.