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Full Show Podcast: 09 September 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: earlier this show with one roof Love where You Live
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  Speaker 1: News Talk Sai'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning on the show.
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  Speaker 3: The private investigator who's been hunting Tom Phillips for years,
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  Speaker 3: well after Australia on the Mushroom Killer. Rental prices lowest
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  Speaker 3: in two years and the teacher pay.
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  Speaker 2: The minimum wage comparison that will surprise her.
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  Speaker 3: The agenda It is Tuesday the nineteen September to Jerusalem.
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian gunman opening fire and start shooting at Israeli's at
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  Speaker 3: a bus stop.
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  Speaker 2: Six dead.
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  Speaker 3: The idea of says the shooters were then shot by
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  Speaker 3: an off Judy soldier.
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  Speaker 4: These murders, these attacks on all fronts, do not deter us.
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  Speaker 4: They only increased our distermination to complete the missions we
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  Speaker 4: have taken upon ourselves in Gaza, in Judea and Samaria everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Mushroom Lady, she's going to be in jail until at
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  Speaker 3: least the age of eighty two for killing her family
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  Speaker 3: with Beeth Wellington.
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  Speaker 5: Only did you cut short three lives and cause lasting
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  Speaker 5: damage to Ian Wilkinson's health, thereby devastating the extended Patterson
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  Speaker 5: and Wilkinson families. You inflicted untold suffering on your own children,
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  Speaker 5: whom you robbed of their beloved grandparents.
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  Speaker 3: And to France we go now, whereas bye bye Bayrou
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  Speaker 3: The French are chewing through leaders quicker than you can
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  Speaker 3: get through a beget. This is Macron's centrist guy lost
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  Speaker 3: the confidence vote just two minutes ago. Government on the
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  Speaker 3: brink of collapse. Dick crisis continues, his BUYERU trying to
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  Speaker 3: save himself.
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  Speaker 6: I believe in our in the different diffront of powers
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  Speaker 6: and the strength of our institutions. This is why I'm masking.
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  Speaker 6: This says why, in the face of our democratic situation
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  Speaker 6: and the help of our nation, I asked that we
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  Speaker 6: found within ourselves the shared conviction to find an agreement
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  Speaker 6: here and is through.
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  Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live news Talks.
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  Speaker 3: They'd be flip me in Texas Morning Love, hearing from
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  Speaker 3: you nine to nine to two, lipens.
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  Speaker 2: That's hard right.
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  Speaker 3: She's up out of her seat, she's up in arms,
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  Speaker 3: she's beating the drum for new elections over in France.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness me, could they get through anyway? I think he's
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  Speaker 3: been through five prime ministers now in two years, Macron,
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  Speaker 3: because remember they stitched together a government from all the
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  Speaker 3: strange bedfellows on the left to keep the far right
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  Speaker 3: out after the last elections, which were during the camp
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  Speaker 3: the Olympics. Remember we were watching the Olympics and they
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  Speaker 3: sort of put it all on hold and then they
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  Speaker 3: went back. Wasn't that long ago, was it? Anyway, the
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  Speaker 3: debt crisis continues. A friend of mine is French, and
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  Speaker 3: she tells me about the enormous expenditure that goes on
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  Speaker 3: to things you just wouldn't dream of here. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you think our health system costs a lot. Go live
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  Speaker 3: in France. They have almost like an uber So if
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  Speaker 3: you get sick and you need to go to the hospital,
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  Speaker 3: normally you if it's an emergency, you call an ambulance.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise you drive yourself, you take public transport. They have
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  Speaker 3: basically a dedicated uber service that gets anyone who's broken
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  Speaker 3: a fingernail, pays for them, The state pays for them
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  Speaker 3: to go. This thing cost has blown out from something
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  Speaker 3: like a couple one hundred million to something like eight
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  Speaker 3: billion dollars, and they wonder why they're in debt. Family
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  Speaker 3: member of mine was over there last week. Got a
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  Speaker 3: tooth problem when in as a foreigner. When in, how
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  Speaker 3: much does it cost? Twenty three euros? So good luck everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Now I want to talk to you about Wellington. So
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  Speaker 3: Wellington Region getting new electric trains, eighteen of them.
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  Speaker 7: They will be eighteen five car battery electric multiple units,
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  Speaker 7: same saying, but different to the ones that you're standing
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  Speaker 7: next to. They will bed in the route between here
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  Speaker 7: and Masterton or the wider Upper service, and they will
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  Speaker 7: consid the service between here and Thalmerston North.
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  Speaker 3: All right, good, great. The other ones are from the seventies.
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  Speaker 3: They need to be replaced. But oh, Captain Chippy's not
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  Speaker 3: happy about all this.
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  Speaker 8: It's a re announcement of a re announcement of a
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  Speaker 8: re announcement. The trains have been on the way for
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  Speaker 8: the Lower North Island for quite some time now. I
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  Speaker 8: think Chris Bishops re announced them about four times already,
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  Speaker 8: probably because he hasn't really got much new to announce
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  Speaker 8: of his own work.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what he's not telling you is that back in
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  Speaker 3: September of twenty twenty three, when Labor was in power
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  Speaker 3: and Chippy was driving the train, there was a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what he didn't tell you.
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  Speaker 3: They had a wait for it cost blowout fifty million
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  Speaker 3: dollars to get the tracks sorted before the trains came.
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  Speaker 3: They had a wait for it delay four years. They
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  Speaker 3: had a wait for it funding shortfull, no guarantee who
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  Speaker 3: would pay for that. The original price was seventy eight million,
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  Speaker 3: the new price one hundred and twenty eight million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds a little bit like the ferries, doesn't it, Or
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  Speaker 3: the Tahara and Auckland thing with a ghost train where
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  Speaker 3: nobody used it. At least this time, hopefully, it looks
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  Speaker 3: like we're going to get the job done. Eleven after
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  Speaker 3: five news talks, here'd be teacher, pay the minimum wage.
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  Speaker 1: Next views and views you trust to start your day.
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  Speaker 1: It's earlier this ship with Bryan Bridge and one route
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  Speaker 1: love where you live?
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  Speaker 2: Five news talks'd be bive.
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  Speaker 3: Thirteen on news talks, he'd be with Tom Phillips. Can
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  Speaker 3: you blame police for not finding him for four years?
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  Speaker 3: How is it that a man can go missing with
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  Speaker 3: three children in bush, in a small place like New
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  Speaker 3: Zealand and not be found. There'll be criticism of the police,
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  Speaker 3: I bet, but I think you've got to go easy
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  Speaker 3: on them, because look, I mean even in Australia, you've
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  Speaker 3: got that sovereign citizen guy on the run. He's killed
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  Speaker 3: two Victorian police officers. He's on the run. Sure, it's
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  Speaker 3: only been weeks, not years. But if a person knows
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  Speaker 3: the terrain, knows the bush like the back of his hand,
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  Speaker 3: he has an advantage. This guy is bush hardened. I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you can, you can pick around the edges at the
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  Speaker 3: police response, but I don't think is there a police
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  Speaker 3: force in the world that would have come here and
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  Speaker 3: found Tom Phillips.
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  Speaker 2: That is the question.
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  Speaker 3: Fourteen after five newspapers Rambridge, do the secondary teachers have
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  Speaker 3: a leg to stand on? That's the question the union
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  Speaker 3: are telling their members they should vote down the government's
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  Speaker 3: new payoffer. This is after the Ministry doubled the previous
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  Speaker 3: one two point five percent in the first year two
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  Speaker 3: percent in the next lighton Watson's senior lecture of Mass
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  Speaker 3: and Stats at Canterbury Unions with me this morning late
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  Speaker 3: and good.
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  Speaker 9: Morning, good morning worry. Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 3: So you don't think this is enough. You've done a
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  Speaker 3: comparison to the minimum wage as a benchmark what is
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  Speaker 3: the difference.
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  Speaker 9: So teacher salaries have kind of plummeted relative to the
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  Speaker 9: minimum wage and I guess, maybe more importantly to the
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  Speaker 9: median wage over the past twenty five years. In nineteen
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  Speaker 9: ninety nine, beginning teachers paid thirty three thousand dollars and
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  Speaker 9: nowadays they're paid sixty four thousand dollars, which seems like
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  Speaker 9: like a great increase. But if a beginning teachers paid
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  Speaker 9: the same amount now as they were in nineteenninety nine
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  Speaker 9: relative to the minimum wage, that the earning of one
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  Speaker 9: hundred thousand dollars, and if they're paid the same as
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  Speaker 9: they were relative to the median wage offer have kept
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  Speaker 9: up with median wage inflation, then they're be getting paid
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  Speaker 9: eighty one thousand dollars or about seventeen thousand dollars more
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  Speaker 9: than they're currently paid.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you reckon they should be getting at least
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  Speaker 3: seventeen grand more than they're currently being paid. Would this
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  Speaker 3: new offer not do there?
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  Speaker 9: This new offer is an increase of two point five
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  Speaker 9: to two point seventy five percent, depending on where they
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  Speaker 9: sit on the salary scale, which equates to about thirteen
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  Speaker 9: hundred or two thousand, five hundred dollars depending off the
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  Speaker 9: bottom or the top of the salary scale, and over
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  Speaker 9: the last twenty five years they're decreased relative to the
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  Speaker 9: meeting wage. Sofer, if teacher salaries had kept out with
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  Speaker 9: the average wage inflation, then they should be earning seventeen
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  Speaker 9: thousand dollars. And I'm not really making adjudgment here, I'm
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  Speaker 9: just giving you the numbers that seventeen thousand dollars is
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  Speaker 9: a lot more than thirteen hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, understand So with the minimum wage comparison, is everybody
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  Speaker 3: not in everyone who's working right now?
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  Speaker 2: Have they not?
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  Speaker 3: Also because the minimum wages shot up, I mean we're
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  Speaker 3: going up twenty two percent in the last two in
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  Speaker 3: the last three years.
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  Speaker 2: Alone of the labor government.
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  Speaker 3: Has everyone not fallen behind and in relative terms to
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  Speaker 3: the minimum wage because it's been ramped up so rapidly.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, So all about twenty five years, minimum wagees increased
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  Speaker 9: by factor of three, whereas teacher salaries have only increased
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  Speaker 9: by factor of two. But I guess the difference is
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  Speaker 9: the medium wages increased by factor of two point five,
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  Speaker 9: And so that's really that. You know, you can make
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  Speaker 9: arguments about the minimum wage should be higher than it
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  Speaker 9: was of seven dollars twenty five years ago. And I
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  Speaker 9: don't think people are going to argue with that. But
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  Speaker 9: I think there's the difference between teacher salaries and what
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  Speaker 9: the average worker, the average wage. Inflation has been and
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  Speaker 9: teacher salaries have not kept up.
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  Speaker 2: What about other comparable industries.
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  Speaker 9: So with this work looking at teacher salaries, I also
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  Speaker 9: looked at a bunch of kind of healthcare professions and
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  Speaker 9: there's been similar similar kind of elusion of income across
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  Speaker 9: a read of other housecal professions as well as education.
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  Speaker 3: It's a it's always a state funded organization, state funded
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  Speaker 3: industries that seem to have this problem, isn't it.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, And you know, I don't lead the government from
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  Speaker 9: making decisions about where to put their money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we should privatize everything. Then that might keep up.
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  Speaker 9: I think there might be some other issues associated with privatization.
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  Speaker 3: Laton, appreciate your time this morning, Laton Watson Senior Lecture
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  Speaker 3: of Mass and Stats, Canterbury, Unique time at seventeen after five.
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  Speaker 3: Where's the cheapest rent in the country?
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  Speaker 2: Next?
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 1: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route love
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  Speaker 1: where you live? News talks'd be.
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  Speaker 3: Whose talks would be? We will get to Tom Phillips.
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  Speaker 3: We're speaking to a private investigator who's been tracking this
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  Speaker 3: guy for the last few years. That is just before
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  Speaker 3: six this morning. Ryan, good to have you back, says Clive. Clive,
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  Speaker 3: thank you Ryan. Not only about finding him, he was
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  Speaker 3: also so irrationally, so irrational. This is Tom Phillips. How
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  Speaker 3: could they not have come across this campsite if, in
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  Speaker 3: fact it was two kilometers away from where they were
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  Speaker 3: standing at the press conference yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: And someone says, you know, why didn't they find this
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  Speaker 3: campsite a year ago? Well, they weren't just in one campsite.
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  Speaker 3: They were moving around the whole era. It's a massive area.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of farmland, there's a lot of dense bush,
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  Speaker 3: massive area. They weren't just in one place for the
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  Speaker 3: last four years they were on the run. New data
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  Speaker 3: shows rents down three percent nationwide to the lowest point
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  Speaker 3: since twenty twenty three. New listings while You're drowning in
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  Speaker 3: them up sixteen percent nationwide, and Wellington have more than doubled.
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  Speaker 3: Nick Tuffley, ASBTV conins with us.
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  Speaker 2: This morning, Nick, Good morning, Good morning. So basics supply
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  Speaker 2: and demand.
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  Speaker 10: Very much an economics lesson in that we've got not
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  Speaker 10: just more listing sort have come through onto the market,
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  Speaker 10: but when you also look in the background, we've gone
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  Speaker 10: from a few years ago we had that really strong
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  Speaker 10: net immigration, rental growth really strong. Now that net immigration
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  Speaker 10: has faded to a whisper and you've got a lot
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  Speaker 10: of supply, a lot of building activity that's still brought
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  Speaker 10: new houses onto the market as well.
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  Speaker 2: What's bucking this trend which areas well.
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  Speaker 10: I think in general what you're seeing is when you're
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  Speaker 10: looking at provincial New Zealand, that's where rents have tended
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  Speaker 10: to hold up or increase. In this particular data, there's
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  Speaker 10: been a couple of areas that have done pretty well,
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  Speaker 10: like Southland and West Coast. Now a couple of caveats
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  Speaker 10: areas when you get into a small region you get
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  Speaker 10: a little bit of noise and a bit of bouncing around,
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  Speaker 10: But those ones you've seen some strong rental growth coming through.
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  Speaker 10: But just be aware when you've only got a few
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  Speaker 10: properties on the market and you're comparing to a year ago,
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  Speaker 10: it could be a very different could be a mention
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  Speaker 10: this time could have been at a louthouse last year
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  Speaker 10: that you're comparing to.
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  Speaker 3: Does this have a snowball effect and potentially impact house
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  Speaker 3: prices When you yield started roading for your rental owners,
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  Speaker 3: for your landlords, then the property values start dropping too,
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  Speaker 3: and perhaps they're more inclined to sell.
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  Speaker 10: It can at the margin. I think what we've got
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  Speaker 10: to remember is that what teams to drive rents over
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  Speaker 10: a long time. There are a lot more linked to
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  Speaker 10: income in terms of what can people actually pay in
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  Speaker 10: less to prices. But it'd be fair to say when
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  Speaker 10: you're looking at a landlord at the moment your income, yes,
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  Speaker 10: that's down, but also think about your costs as well.
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  Speaker 10: For your biggest cost, which is your mortgage, has been
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  Speaker 10: reducing a little bit, but in the background you've still
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  Speaker 10: got a lot of outgoings like your your rates and
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  Speaker 10: your insurance that are still creeping up.
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  Speaker 3: Nick Toughly, a spechief economist on Rent's good to have
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  Speaker 3: you here this morning, twenty two minutes after five interesting
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  Speaker 3: piece from interest dot Co yesterday. You want the cheapest
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  Speaker 3: interest rate in town, go to Masterton. Yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 3: a bit random, but Masterton's where you're heading the wided
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  Speaker 3: upper building society has beaten all the big banks. The
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  Speaker 3: springs on four point five nine percent for two years
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  Speaker 3: is what they're offering you. Four point five nine percent
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  Speaker 3: for two years, first time in twenty years they reckon.
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  Speaker 3: A non bank has had the lowest rate for what
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  Speaker 3: is a popular fixed term one we all like taking.
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  Speaker 3: Almost everyone else is on four point seven five percent.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a sixteen basis point out advantage to your
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  Speaker 3: winded up a building society. However, if you look at
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  Speaker 3: the fine print of what the big banks are offering,
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  Speaker 3: you will probably also get a cash back of three
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  Speaker 3: and a half thousand dollars, which brings you back to
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  Speaker 3: about the same So.
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  Speaker 2: Worth doing your homework as always.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty three after five, I have some thoughts on Tom Phillips.
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  Speaker 3: I'll share them with you next.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio pow it
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  Speaker 1: by News Talks.
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  Speaker 3: AB News Talks their b It is five twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: It's brutal, but Tom Phillips brought this whole thing on himself. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he was killed, and that is a very hard and
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  Speaker 3: sad fact.
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  Speaker 2: That his kids are going to have to live with
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of their lives. Their dad is dead, but.
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  Speaker 3: He shot a cop and innocent local constable who was
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  Speaker 3: just trying to do his job. Tom Phillips also deprived
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  Speaker 3: his children of their mum, of any professional medical attention,
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  Speaker 3: of any formal education for four years. Ember was five
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  Speaker 3: when they were taken. Bush hasn't been to school since
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  Speaker 3: she's now nine. The kids were essentially used as helpers
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  Speaker 3: as dad carried out bank robberies, burglaries, breakings. These are
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  Speaker 3: not the actions of a father who wants the best
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  Speaker 3: for his kid. Any parent who loves their child knows
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  Speaker 3: you do not put them in harm's way. Much will
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  Speaker 3: be made of the custody situation in the coming days,
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  Speaker 3: but the fact is we don't know much detail about
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  Speaker 3: this and likely never will. Well, the full story won't
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  Speaker 3: come out. When he went Bush the second time, Tom
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  Speaker 3: was in breach of a custody order. That's about all
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  Speaker 3: we know because family court cases are wrapped up in
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  Speaker 3: suppression Fort Knox in this country to protect the kids.
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  Speaker 3: But whatever happened before court, whatever happened in court, no
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  Speaker 3: matter how unfair or unjust a case may be, If
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  Speaker 3: you take the law into your own hands, run away
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  Speaker 3: with your own kids, deprive them of an education and
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  Speaker 3: contact with society for four years. Then the outcomes are
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  Speaker 3: yours to own and yours alone. The outcomes are bittersweet.
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  Speaker 3: In this case, a father is dead, a police constable
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  Speaker 3: is in hospital, lucky to be alive, and three children
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  Speaker 3: have survived, at least physically, a dangerous situation.
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  Speaker 2: They should never have been put in in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: Branbridge.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it is five twenty seven on Newstaloks. You've been
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  Speaker 3: nine two ninety two is the number to text. We
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  Speaker 3: are going to speak just before six this morning to
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  Speaker 3: a private investigator who's been following and tracking Tom Phillips
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  Speaker 3: for the past few years. Right, let's get some numbers
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  Speaker 3: for you. Let's take a look at rates, because I
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  Speaker 3: know how much you love talking about rates from local authorities.
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  Speaker 3: We had numbers out yesterday. Over the past year rates
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  Speaker 3: income was up thirteen point two percent nationally. Thank you
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  Speaker 3: Wayne Brown, thank you Tory Farno, thank you every council
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  Speaker 3: across the well most councils across the country, so up
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  Speaker 3: over thirteen point two percent over the last year, which
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  Speaker 3: is about the average for the past four quarters. There
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  Speaker 3: has never been such a surge in the thirty three
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  Speaker 3: year history of the quarterly data that was released yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: So if you feel like your rates bill's gone up.
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  Speaker 3: You're not wrong. Interesting what's happening in Argentina? Harvio Melay.
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  Speaker 3: This is the madman with the chainsaw. Where's the sunglasses inside?
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  Speaker 3: The Trump of South America, they call him. So he
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  Speaker 3: gets in, he's liberty and as the day is long,
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  Speaker 3: hacks government spending, Inflation falls, axes and tire government departments.
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  Speaker 3: Growth increases. Good, right, But he's just underperformed in a
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  Speaker 3: local election in Bonis Series. In fact, he got and
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  Speaker 3: that's half of the population of Argentina is in Buenos Aires.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: So in these local elections he gets thirty four percent,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: his party, the lefties forty seven percent. So there's pushback
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: against some of his policies. He's in a bit of
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: political trouble. Says he'll do a reset. They've got congressional
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: elections there in October where he's hoping to get more seats,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: but that might be an uphill battle.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk said, b we can.
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  Speaker 9: Fly away, stealing America decision lived now living died this way.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: edition with Ryan bridge and one roofe love where you live?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: News Talk said b Again.
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  Speaker 11: Good morning, it is twenty four minutes away from six
• 18:04
  Speaker 11: year on news Talk, said Brian. The kids probably had
• 18:08
  Speaker 11: a better life with dad in the bush. This is
• 18:10
  Speaker 11: the kind of division that you're seeing come through on
• 18:12
  Speaker 11: the text machine.
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  Speaker 2: This is from Jim.
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  Speaker 3: I'll wait to see the evidence of the great harm
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: that's been done to them. It'd be a bloody dream.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I reckon to be in the bush gym. I mean, honestly,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: do you want to be running around where the guy
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: who is carrying weapons and shooting cops? I don't think
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that is good for a child. Georgie says Ryan. The
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: risk of the children was massive. Sure the camp might
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: have been two kilometers away, but apparently the bush was
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: so rugged it took them ages to get there, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: it did. There is no good outcome if people are
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: prepared to use weapons on people, especially police officers. Twenty
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: three away from six Now, a very quick update on
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the housing situation. We've done the rents this morning. Let's
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: do your values. This is a starter out from QV
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: for the August quarter. Average home values down point eight
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: zero point eight percent for the quarter. This is nationally.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Auckland you wore down one point four percent, Gisbone you
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: are down one point four, Hastings you are up one
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: point seven percent, bucking the trend there. Wellington down and
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I won't be surprising two point four percent, Nelson down
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: three point two percent, and in Vcagol you are up
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: slightly point four. It is twenty three to six. Ryan
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: jieshwar reporters around the country. Before six we will get
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: to a private investigator on Tom Phillips and we're live
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: to Australia Cullen Proctors and to need and Collum. Good morning, morning, Ryan,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: A fresh chapter for a small Otago town.
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: Yeah, beautiful part of the world.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: This is Toho in the Ida Valley.
• 19:40
  Speaker 12: Almost the whole main street of this town is up
• 19:43
  Speaker 12: for sale thanks to five simultaneous retirements. It means that
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: three homes and otahuh To Bed and Breakfasts and accommodation park,
• 19:52
  Speaker 12: are the historic pub there and the oldest operating general
• 19:55
  Speaker 12: store in New Zealand are all up for sale at
• 19:58
  Speaker 12: the same time. Ali says they're wanting to hand the
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: reins over to the next generation and this is a
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: wonderful opportunity to be a part of a thriving community
• 20:07
  Speaker 12: population less than one hundred. She says she'd like to
• 20:10
  Speaker 12: see more young families and business owners take.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Up the offer. How much how much are we paying?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Do we know? A good question?
• 20:17
  Speaker 12: PGG you right, so and I think it's handling, handling
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: the finances. But great opportunity for some New Zealanders.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: You get in there.
• 20:24
  Speaker 12: How's the weather there, Colum, cloudy periods today, possible light
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: afternoon shower northerlyas and fifteen.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you clears than christ Church? Clear, good morning, good.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: This is the good news story out of christ Church
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: in a way, but the reason not a great one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 13: Clear, Yeah, that's exactly right. Look, ten air purifiers have
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: been gifted to a school down here. This is by
• 20:47
  Speaker 13: the asper Asthma and Respiratory Foundation that they're donating these
• 20:50
  Speaker 13: air scrubbers to Tepa O La Kaihotu, which is a
• 20:54
  Speaker 13: kuda or school in Lindwood. This is you know, seems
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: a good thing, but it isn't. After some health and
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: safety reports identified multiple issues with their seventy year old buildings,
• 21:04
  Speaker 13: including rotting walls, mold growth, and multiple leaks, the ASPAC
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: and Respiratory Foundation chief executive let teacher Harding says kids
• 21:13
  Speaker 13: simply can't learn, teachers cannot teach in these kinds of environments.
• 21:18
  Speaker 13: She says it's not ideal, but it is a temporary
• 21:20
  Speaker 13: fix for a school that needs better infrastructure investment and
• 21:23
  Speaker 13: a chance for the government to take stock of our
• 21:25
  Speaker 13: learning environment, especially as they transition from open planned classrooms.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: How's your weather clear?
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: Fine?
• 21:32
  Speaker 13: A bit of high cloud expected this evening Norberis.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: And a high sixteen last one max is in Wellington
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: max the housing stump still the most pronounced in the country.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: We're just given numbers on that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 14: Actually, yeah, yeah, let me expand a bit on how
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: bad it is in Wellington. And look, our peak a
• 21:47
  Speaker 14: few years ago was just nuts, so the decline was
• 21:50
  Speaker 14: always going to be greater here. But there does seem
• 21:52
  Speaker 14: to be such little confidence in the region's market right now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 14: And this latest qv data has the whole country down
• 21:58
  Speaker 14: over three months by close twelve percent, but Wellington City
• 22:01
  Speaker 14: down two and a half percent. That's roughly double the
• 22:04
  Speaker 14: fallen christ Church Auckland. We are a pretty astonishing thirty
• 22:08
  Speaker 14: percent down on what that market peak was in early
• 22:12
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty two. For an average in the city of
• 22:15
  Speaker 14: one point four to four million to now barely a million.
• 22:18
  Speaker 14: Lower hut also massively down. Apparently the better well maintained
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: homes are doing okay, but you can pick up the
• 22:25
  Speaker 14: cheaper homes for cheaper basically essentially at the former rentals
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: as well. I'm not sure these are the ones that'll
• 22:31
  Speaker 14: be worth five million dollars to a foreign investor. This
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: is spreading to wide Appa as well apparently, which is
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: also struggling now. Carterton apparently one of the worst town's
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: regions in the country as well.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for a lot of reasons. Oh Cadlan, Hey, are
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you a rental or an owner?
• 22:48
  Speaker 15: Max?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I'm still a renter because the rental.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Market they have doubled the listings in the past year
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: that it's not data out this morning as well.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Have you noticed that rents are coming down? Well?
• 23:01
  Speaker 14: I have noticed in the past few years that it
• 23:03
  Speaker 14: is also harder to find tenants for landlords. Landlords seem
• 23:10
  Speaker 14: to be really struggling. But then you know, for someone
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: in my position, I could afford to buy a townhouse tomorrow,
• 23:15
  Speaker 14: but who would want to buy a flat and apartment?
• 23:19
  Speaker 14: It doesn't seem like a good investment, not as many
• 23:21
  Speaker 14: townhouses popping up as saying christ Church, which just seems
• 23:24
  Speaker 14: to be full of townhouses. And I suppose I'm symptomatic
• 23:28
  Speaker 14: of the problem where I just don't have any confidence
• 23:30
  Speaker 14: in buying right now.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting. How's your weather?
• 23:34
  Speaker 14: A little cloud around, stronger norther least thirteen the high central.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Respue Cheers Max Neighbors and Auckland Hay Neighborreetings, We've got
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: a traffic management company in liquidation.
• 23:43
  Speaker 16: Yes, now, this big Auckland traffic management company called Absolute
• 23:48
  Speaker 16: Traffic Solutions based in Witty being liquidated over a one
• 23:52
  Speaker 16: point one million dollars the old and the revenue debt,
• 23:55
  Speaker 16: costing eighty five people their jobs. Dig Be Noise.
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: What a great name.
• 24:00
  Speaker 16: Anyway, he's saying about sixty staff. They have since been
• 24:03
  Speaker 16: re employed. This is on short term contracts. He's going
• 24:06
  Speaker 16: to sell the business. Employees owed about four hundred and
• 24:09
  Speaker 16: fifty thousand dollars. Just another one, isn't it of you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 16: the latest one. So this Absolute Traffic Solutions, you know
• 24:15
  Speaker 16: they do everything from traffic management and hiring all those
• 24:20
  Speaker 16: you know, while equipment hire really an emergency response.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Stop ghost signs.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: It's very sad. And whenever anyone loses their jobs. It
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: is very sad news. But there will be people who
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: will celebrate this as some sort of victory against road comes.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 24:34
  Speaker 16: That's the first thing I saw.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: When I saw this, I thought, oh gosh, how's our weather?
• 24:38
  Speaker 16: Okay, cloudy isolated Charles from afternoon fifteen is the high
• 24:41
  Speaker 16: here in Auckland.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Brilliant Neva, Thank you. It is seventeen away from six.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: You're listening to News Talk ZVB a private investigator on
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Tom Phillips. Before six. We're live in Australia. Aaron Patterson
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: will be eighty two before she is allowed out of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: prison over the mushroom deaths.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance, peace of mind for
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: New Zealand business.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: He talks a bit as fourteen away from sex. We'll
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: get to a private investigator on Tom Phillips in just
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: a second. First we are going to Donaldamao, Australia correspondent.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Here is the Beef Wellington survivor, Ian Wilkinson speaking outside
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: court after the mushroom lady is she's become known. Aaron
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Patterson gets thirty three years.
• 25:23
  Speaker 17: They made a professional efficient, had effective investigation into what
• 25:29
  Speaker 17: happened at the lunch. They brought to light the truth
• 25:33
  Speaker 17: of what happened with the death of free, good people.
• 25:37
  Speaker 17: We're grateful for their skills that brought this truth to light.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Donald Demayo is an Australia correspondent. Donna, what's the reaction
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: being to that sentence, Well, of.
• 25:47
  Speaker 18: Course everyone wanted to know what would happen with Aaron
• 25:50
  Speaker 18: Patterson after that ten week trial, and we know that
• 25:54
  Speaker 18: huge crowds were at the court inside and outside. Many
• 25:57
  Speaker 18: people tried to get a snap or a glimpse as
• 26:00
  Speaker 18: the prison van left yesterday afternoon. Interestingly, we've noted that
• 26:05
  Speaker 18: Simon Patterson, the estranged husband, did not attend their sentencing hearing,
• 26:11
  Speaker 18: as we know he was the last minute withdrawal from
• 26:12
  Speaker 18: that fatal lunch. He has not spoken to the media
• 26:15
  Speaker 18: and word is now that he's planning a podcast, so
• 26:20
  Speaker 18: stay tuned for that. We also, of course heard from
• 26:22
  Speaker 18: the judge who said that Eron's failure to exhibit any
• 26:26
  Speaker 18: remorse pause salt into the victim's wounds, and the judge
• 26:31
  Speaker 18: also said she not only cut short three lives, she
• 26:33
  Speaker 18: inflicted untold suffering on her own children. Whom she robbed
• 26:39
  Speaker 18: of their beloved grandparents. Another thing that Ian Wilkinson, the
• 26:42
  Speaker 18: survivor said in that statement is that he said, I'd
• 26:47
  Speaker 18: like to encourage everybody to be kind to each other.
• 26:51
  Speaker 18: We know now that the non prop period is thirty
• 26:54
  Speaker 18: three years, and we do believe that Erin will be
• 26:57
  Speaker 18: in solitary confinement for most of those years. As we mentioned,
• 27:02
  Speaker 18: you know, the judge are noting that she's shown no remorse,
• 27:06
  Speaker 18: but also he said only she knows why she committed
• 27:10
  Speaker 18: these crimes.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Donna, thanks to that update. Donnod to my our Australia correspondent.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: It is twelve minutes away.
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  Speaker 1: From six Bryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 3: Tom Phillips is dead, the three kids are safe. The
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a cop who was shot, expected to survive. They were
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: found in the campground about two k's from the quad
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: bike shootout location.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Bush was rough and rugged, and.
• 27:29
  Speaker 19: I can tell you with great relief this evening that
• 27:33
  Speaker 19: soon after four thirty today we've located Tom phillips remaining children.
• 27:39
  Speaker 19: They've been found in a camp site not far from here,
• 27:44
  Speaker 19: further up the Tioga Road. I can confirm that the
• 27:47
  Speaker 19: children are well and uninjured.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Chris Budge is a private investigator who was looking for
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Tom Phillips with us this morning.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Chris, good morning, Good morning.
• 27:56
  Speaker 15: Certainly an exciting but sad day.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: What did you make of the low location.
• 28:02
  Speaker 15: That's within within the thought pattern? Everybody thought the sort
• 28:06
  Speaker 15: of sort of halfway between the triangle of Osrahanng and
• 28:10
  Speaker 15: Maricoppa and the dairy where he's been seen more than once.
• 28:14
  Speaker 15: So it's certainly within the area. It'd be interesting to
• 28:17
  Speaker 15: see what comes out around camp site, you know, it
• 28:21
  Speaker 15: was it was it structured exactly what was there and
• 28:24
  Speaker 15: that that's what the police were going through on their
• 28:26
  Speaker 15: forensic examination.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: What sort of square kilometers area are we talking about
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: that we thought he was in?
• 28:34
  Speaker 15: Well, overall, it's kind of thought it was round about
• 28:36
  Speaker 15: a sixty kilometer square area going all the way up
• 28:40
  Speaker 15: to calf here at the north and probably the dairy
• 28:43
  Speaker 15: area where he's seeing to the south, and that area
• 28:46
  Speaker 15: there is it has some very rugged parts that country
• 28:50
  Speaker 15: road gravel roads, as we saw in the media last night.
• 28:54
  Speaker 15: So certainly there are isolated little communities and also buildings
• 28:58
  Speaker 15: are certainly plenty of farts, so it is an area
• 29:02
  Speaker 15: that is quite hard to look through, which is obviously
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: why the police were been able to locate them over
• 29:06
  Speaker 15: the last few years.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: What about the heat seeking thing, This idea that you
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: can get choppers up, you can get drones up and
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: they will give you thermal imaging and you should be
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: able to find them.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Were they in a cave?
• 29:16
  Speaker 15: No, No, Thermal imaging is actually quite easy to hide behind.
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: I do go out hunting and you could have an
• 29:23
  Speaker 15: animal or a person hiding behind a solid tree trunk
• 29:26
  Speaker 15: or under a level of a foliage and the thermals
• 29:30
  Speaker 15: will not come out. So it's not one hundred percent guarantee.
• 29:35
  Speaker 15: You would have to have them in a semi open
• 29:37
  Speaker 15: or under a light foliage to be able to be
• 29:40
  Speaker 15: able to spot them. So it's one method of investigation,
• 29:43
  Speaker 15: but it's not absolute.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Some people say that Tom Phillips is a hero, that
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: he has done you did the right thing, that there
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: was a custody, a disput et cetera.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: What do you say to those people.
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: I have looked at the social media over the last
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: twenty four hours and previously, but especially over the last
• 30:00
  Speaker 15: twenty four hours, and listen, I'm really surprised with the
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: negativity around people that people are saying things like I
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: hope the cop doesn't survive. The system is dad people
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: are bullies. I find that absolutely disgusting. We have a
• 30:19
  Speaker 15: circumstances where I have said for quite from the very
• 30:23
  Speaker 15: start of a situation of a father who has abscondered,
• 30:27
  Speaker 15: have abducted his children away from the wider family group,
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: and it's not just the father's decision, it's more around
• 30:35
  Speaker 15: removing choice in socialization for those children and hiding away
• 30:40
  Speaker 15: from everybody. So I think those people are wrong and
• 30:42
  Speaker 15: taking a really big chill prill in regards to what
• 30:45
  Speaker 15: our the Zealand society is all about. It's more about
• 30:48
  Speaker 15: being together, being with families and giving children the best opportunity.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: That they could have.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Chris Budge, private investigator who was looking for Tom Phillips.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: It is eight to six news Talks.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Eb get ahead the headlines on early edition with Ryan
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Branch and one roof Love where you Live News Talks.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: That'd be sixty six on News Talks. He'd be loads
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: of texts on Tom Phillips. As you can imagine people,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: most people saying you cannot do that, but some people
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: still defending him. A bit of housekeeping for Early Edition
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: this morning.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Ryan.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I always loved listening to your Wellington reporter Max's update.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: He always has something amusing to say. I agree he does. Interestingly,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: he always says the weather followed by the word central.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Is this a British thing or a Max quirk? Well,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: we have to ask him.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Lots of people also asking what was the song we
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: played after the five point thirty news Olivia Dean Man,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I need was the song?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Mike is in the studio, Mike, good morning.
• 31:39
  Speaker 15: Good morning.
• 31:39
  Speaker 20: I'm just reading about Absolute Traffic Solutions.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, do you know about them?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, I've just heard that they are eighty five staff,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: although sixty you've already found new short term contracts.
• 31:49
  Speaker 20: How is it possible that you can be in the
• 31:51
  Speaker 20: business of traffic management in New Zealand and be outage
• 31:55
  Speaker 20: and not run your company to the point where you're
• 31:57
  Speaker 20: making not only a profit but some sort of exorbitant
• 32:00
  Speaker 20: profit and you're living in the Bahamas?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Is this the Wayne Brown anti Cone effect? Though taking force,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: taking action?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Perhaps it is.
• 32:08
  Speaker 20: Is one hundred and ten thousand dollars a reasonable income.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: For one person or a household one person? I think so?
• 32:16
  Speaker 20: Teacher, that's what a teacher is.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't.
• 32:19
  Speaker 20: You're getting to the point. Brian Roach is on the
• 32:20
  Speaker 20: program after seven o'clock this morning. You're getting to the
• 32:23
  Speaker 20: point applies to the nurses. Nurses earn even more, and
• 32:26
  Speaker 20: every time I raise it, people go mental, They go,
• 32:29
  Speaker 20: I know somebody and they don't, et cetera. And you
• 32:32
  Speaker 20: can't argue with the numbers. You're talking about a primary
• 32:35
  Speaker 20: teacher on one hundred and ten thousand dollars. It's got
• 32:38
  Speaker 20: to the point now where you're starting to think, because
• 32:40
  Speaker 20: there's the whole thing with industrial relations is sympathy, of course,
• 32:44
  Speaker 20: and we're on their side, aren't we, you know, because
• 32:46
  Speaker 20: we like teachers, we like nurses, we like doctors. But
• 32:49
  Speaker 20: there comes a point where in a country where the
• 32:52
  Speaker 20: average wages seventy to eighty thousand dollars that you're going
• 32:55
  Speaker 20: I tell you what, one ten's not bad.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: And no one else is getting two and a half percent.
• 33:01
  Speaker 20: Well when you say two and a half, it's actually
• 33:03
  Speaker 20: four percent. Yeah, yeah, you're adding these numbers to give
• 33:07
  Speaker 20: you think.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: That because all of these and these industries that we
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: talk about are all government funded, aren't they?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: So what if we just privatize them all?
• 33:15
  Speaker 20: Well, you could do that or you could. You know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 20: I've always argued you pay teachers on merit. In other words,
• 33:22
  Speaker 20: you know you're good, I'll give you two hundred and
• 33:23
  Speaker 20: fifty thousand dollars, and over here the useless one earns
• 33:27
  Speaker 20: forty two.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Which they argue, know you will strip all the poorer
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: schools of the good teacher, of.
• 33:30
  Speaker 20: Course, and so that's fine. So the downside of what
• 33:33
  Speaker 20: they want is that everybody gets the same thing. Therefore
• 33:36
  Speaker 20: the bill is gargantu and every time you get a
• 33:39
  Speaker 20: pay rise, but there comes a point where you start
• 33:41
  Speaker 20: to think.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: How much enough's enough? Just what is it?
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: It's a good bargaining technic. Either take this offer or
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: will privatize is a little.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Bit of that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 20: We'll see how much frustration we'll get from Brian Roach.
• 33:53
  Speaker 20: Please skimmission of this morning as well. We're ready chambers
• 33:55
  Speaker 20: back in the MICA's next.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Have a great day, everybody, see you tomorrow on Early Editions.
• 34:06
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