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Grandma's Curtain Beat Down · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This week on your Gabble Gabble, if you talk bad
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  Speaker 2: about your friend's grandma's curtains, can you then beat them
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  Speaker 2: over the head at church with your purse? Judge Matthews
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  Speaker 2: is gonna give us all a lesson on everything.
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  Speaker 1: And if you don't tell your girlfriend that you're married,
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  Speaker 1: does it make it okay for her to stalk you?
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  Speaker 1: Judge Ross stalks his way into a verdict. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know real people cases thake justice.
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  Speaker 3: It's Judge Ross, Judge call judge mathis ah love the
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  Speaker 3: cases in one place, it'ds.
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Dan back in the chambers and case where we belong.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. For those you this is your first time.
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  Speaker 2: Love you, this is your first your gabble gas. Welcome, Welcome, Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I am going to tell Dana case if he hasn't seen,
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna try to figure out the freda and
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  Speaker 1: then we're gonna swap it. Swap its Uh, same the difference?
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  Speaker 2: Dan? Do you want to go first? You want me to?
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I got a long boy this time,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I went first in our last episode,
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  Speaker 2: So why don't you go first? This time. Okay, it
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  Speaker 2: said a little appetizer for what Judge Matthies is.
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  Speaker 1: We are in Judge Ross's court, where again, justice in
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  Speaker 1: this specific courtroom is not We.
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  Speaker 2: Have a lot of fun here at the gabble, but
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  Speaker 2: justice in Judge Ross not a foreign concept. Not a
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  Speaker 2: foreign concept. And all the other courtrooms could be good.
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  Speaker 1: Are they speaking a different language?
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  Speaker 2: But not here.
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  Speaker 1: Brooke Chapman is suing Petrick Sheapman. Shap a Man, Chapman.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a sap Man, Yeah, h a t you know shop.
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  Speaker 2: If your last name is Shapman, then you need to
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  Speaker 2: change your last name. Brooke would do that.
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  Speaker 1: Brook shap Man is suing Patrick Quaid for two thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 1: and Patrick Quaid is suing Brooke Chapman countersuing her for
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  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars. Uh. Brooke explains that she was dating
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  Speaker 1: Patrick for seven months and that he was the ultimate romantic,
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  Speaker 1: buying her flowers, buying her chocolate, going on nice dates,
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  Speaker 1: making her dinner. She was thinking Patrick Quaid could be
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  Speaker 1: the one, Patrick Quaid could be the one. Uh, until
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  Speaker 1: she finds out Patrick Quaid, until she finds out that
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Quaid.
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  Speaker 2: Already was the one.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. She gets a call from her friend
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  Speaker 1: Susie one d and Susie's like, You're not gonna believe
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  Speaker 1: what I just saw. At the supermarket. I see Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Quaid and a kid runs up to him calling him daddy,
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  Speaker 1: and a woman runs up to him, also calling him daddy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding about that second part, calling him honey. I
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  Speaker 1: think Patrick is married with a child. Uh So, Patrick explains, Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that things were serious enough with Brooke
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  Speaker 1: for me to tell her the truth that I was
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  Speaker 1: married with childs How serious was it? Seven months? And
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  Speaker 1: she says that he and his wife where.
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  Speaker 2: Are we were on a break but still trying.
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  Speaker 1: To keep things relatively normal for their son. They listen,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to do the best weekend so they still
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  Speaker 1: do families. Yes, when uh he met Brook, they had
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  Speaker 1: been separated for about a year. Okay, Now this isn't
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  Speaker 1: a legal separation. There was no paperwork filed. It was
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  Speaker 1: just something between the two of them where separated. God,
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  Speaker 1: he had a separate apartment. He still lived at the
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  Speaker 1: home fifty percent of the time though, so they still
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  Speaker 1: have some sort of relationship trying to keep things as
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  Speaker 1: normal for their son as possible while also being separated
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  Speaker 1: and trying to figure out what they're gonna do. Also
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  Speaker 1: figuring out what they're going to do involves him being
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  Speaker 1: in a seven month relationship with Brooke, a relationship that
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  Speaker 1: that she says was definitely exclusive.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely.
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  Speaker 1: She was under the impression that this is a definite
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  Speaker 1: exclusive city say that, or she was just under that.
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  Speaker 1: He is like, this is not serious.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, this is serious. We were exclusive. I spent
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time at that apartment that he talks about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, eating, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Ross asked Patrick if he was honest when she calls
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  Speaker 1: him up and is like, hey, I heard that you're
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  Speaker 1: at the Kroger and a boy's calling you daddy and
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  Speaker 1: a girl's calling you honey. And he's like, yes, I
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  Speaker 1: was honest. I told her the truth in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: He says, Now, if I we kept dating and things
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  Speaker 1: got more serious, of course eventually I would have told her.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Ross says, you were dating for six or seven months, Like,
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  Speaker 1: how long do you need a day before you tell
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  Speaker 1: somebody that you're married? And Patrick Quaid says, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: feel it out. Yeah, for seven months, you gotta feel
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  Speaker 1: it out. I was feeling it out. Didn't feel right.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Ross does go, oh, you feel it out? Huh,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta feel it out.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: Brookes says that he tells Patrick, you need to tell
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  Speaker 1: your wife about us.
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  Speaker 2: Woman, woman, I can't. I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel good about this. You need to tell
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  Speaker 1: your wife that you had been seeing me for seven months.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick pipes up and says, now it's important to know
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  Speaker 1: that this conversation where she's telling me I got to
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  Speaker 1: my wife happened after I caught her tailing me? And
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  Speaker 1: Ross says, how dare she tail you? And he says
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  Speaker 1: he says, I know right.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't get it. He does not.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Quaid is one of the dumbest people I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen on a court case. Like just like very he's
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  Speaker 1: almost like a surfer like very like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like feel it out. He's playing it up
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  Speaker 2: the dumb because he's playing dumb.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: He says that we had ended things before this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: before she was telling me weed and like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: are you married? Yes, I'm married. Okay, we got to
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  Speaker 1: end thing. So he was under the impression that things
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  Speaker 1: were over. So why would I tell my wife we're not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not in a relationship anymore. There's nothing to tell
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  Speaker 1: my wife, you know, aside from the fact that but
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  Speaker 1: his thing is, it's not happening anymore. So no need to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let my wife that it's happening. Her thing
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  Speaker 1: is it happened? Yeah, I don't feel good about that.
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  Speaker 1: We need to tell you why. Ross asks her, why
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  Speaker 1: did you follow him? And she says, I was following
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  Speaker 1: him because I wanted to figure out where he lived.
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  Speaker 1: I needed to tell his wife. I couldn't live with
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  Speaker 1: myself woman to woman, knowing that I had been with
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  Speaker 1: another woman's man for seven months. I didn't feel good
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  Speaker 1: about that. So I start following him. He sees me
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  Speaker 1: motions for me to pull over, so I pull over.
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  Speaker 1: He asked me, what's up. I tell him that we
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  Speaker 1: need to tell your wife about us, and Ross says, so,
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  Speaker 1: you were kind of stalking him, right, You were kind
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  Speaker 1: of stocking And she's like, no, I was fighting for honesty.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, well, just.
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  Speaker 2: Because you have a reason.
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  Speaker 1: Just because you have a reason doesn't mean it's not stalking,
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  Speaker 1: fancy walking, fighting for honesty, Patrick says, I definitely felt stocked.
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  Speaker 2: I know that I felt that. I'll tell you that way.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. Patrick says, there's not more of us happening, so
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  Speaker 1: there's no need for my wife to know about it.
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  Speaker 1: She pulls out her phone and says, well, I have
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  Speaker 1: all of her information right here. I can call her
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  Speaker 1: up and I'm gonna tell her.
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  Speaker 2: So the past still doesn't know. Wife still doesn't know.
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  Speaker 2: This is no this is on the side of the road. Okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But I actually don't know if the wife knows. We
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  Speaker 1: I think she might knows now, she might knows that
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  Speaker 1: she might knows now, So Patrick says, he grabs the
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  Speaker 1: phone out of her hand, and she tries to grab
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  Speaker 1: the phone back, and in the process the phone falls
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  Speaker 1: to the ground and shatters. That phone is valued at
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  Speaker 1: six hundred dollars. She gives proof of the value of
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  Speaker 1: that phone.
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  Speaker 2: Got it?
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  Speaker 1: So now the questions, we get six hundred dollars here,
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  Speaker 1: where's the rest of the.
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  Speaker 2: Fourteen? Exactly?
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  Speaker 1: So, she says. The next day, I follow him again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fighting for honesty. I find out I follow her,
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  Speaker 1: follow him to his home. A nice suburban home, and
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  Speaker 1: I put a letter in the mailbox for his wife
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  Speaker 1: to read to tell her the truth about what happened.
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  Speaker 1: The next day I get to work, my boss calls
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  Speaker 1: me into the office and says that they got a
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  Speaker 1: call from a guy named Patrick claiming that I was
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  Speaker 1: stalking him and his wife and his kid, and that
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  Speaker 1: they think that I should be put on some psychological evaluation.
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  Speaker 1: So that gius, I'm crazy. Okay, I'm a stalker, anything
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  Speaker 1: about that. Ross asks what she does for a living,
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  Speaker 1: and she says she works at a correctional institution.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: She gets put on a two week suspension, which costs
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  Speaker 1: her overtime, which is where she makes a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: So she gets put on a two week suspension because
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  Speaker 2: a random dude called up and said that he she
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  Speaker 2: was stalking him, and they this correctional facil He had
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  Speaker 2: no proof and just did it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there was some sort of investigation.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know she was She was
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  Speaker 1: put on a two week suspension where she lost out
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  Speaker 1: on fourteen hundred dollars worth of overtime money, which is
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  Speaker 1: where she makes a lot of fourteen hundred dollars over
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  Speaker 1: the course.
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  Speaker 2: Of two weeks thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick says he's suing for one thousand dollars because she
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  Speaker 1: put him through a lot of anguish and Judge Ross
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  Speaker 1: is ready to rule.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I think is gonna happen. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna either give her six hundred dollars for the phone,
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  Speaker 2: are gonna give her a thousand total? And just say
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  Speaker 2: you get a thousand dollars, you get nothing just because
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  Speaker 2: it splits the like it just takes the thousand out.
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  Speaker 2: He's not gonna because she was stalking. Let's go with
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  Speaker 2: a thousand. He's gonna give her a thousand bucks.
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  Speaker 1: So do you by saying a thousand bucks, are you
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  Speaker 1: saying that that.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna award both full and that's gonna mean a
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars for her? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, he says, Patrick, You're not getting anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, That's the thing is you knew he wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 2: give him.
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  Speaker 1: You You you cheated. Whatever happens as a result of
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  Speaker 1: that is he says, I will give you the six
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars to the phone. Clearly you set there's just
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  Speaker 1: showing that valued Patrick, you took something that belonged to you.
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  Speaker 1: As a result, it chattered, so you have to pay
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  Speaker 1: for that. I'm not going to give you the fourteen
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars because you were stalking exactly. Yeah, should have
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  Speaker 1: also a consequence of the stocking.
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  Speaker 2: Just going with the six hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I think Ross is correct this case.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we did it. You ready to go over to
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  Speaker 2: Judge Mathis always always and I had it was so
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  Speaker 2: sad to hear that Warner Brothers is canceling. Judge, can
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  Speaker 2: we just take a moment, a moment of silence? Now
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing that wasn't long. It was long because
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  Speaker 2: I we have tens of thousands of cases. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we've got but and this is of the cases. I
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  Speaker 2: gotta be honest. It is up there near the top,
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  Speaker 2: if not my favorite judgement. Wow, because Judge Mathis gets
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  Speaker 2: to tell you how he's evolved as a human being,
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  Speaker 2: He gets to give some zingers.
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  Speaker 1: And we have two of the biggest characters I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen in a courtroom in.
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  Speaker 2: This courtroom, are you ready? John Allen is suing Tesy
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  Speaker 2: J for five thousands Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Days after cancelation, Judge Greg Mathis announces a return to
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  Speaker 1: TV with Mathis Court in the fall of twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: three on a different network, on a different network. He's
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  Speaker 1: back everything, He's he's back.
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  Speaker 2: We did it so that moment of silence was accurate.
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  Speaker 2: That's that was an accurate as long as he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: on team Well, it's not Judge Mathis anymore. It's Mathis
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  Speaker 2: Mathis Court. Well, we'll see if those are available on YouTube,
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  Speaker 2: because that that's what makes it. Follow twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: once again, John Allen is suing Tessy J. T z
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  Speaker 2: z y Jay. Tes J is a big dude. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a blonde streak through his hair. John Allen, and
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  Speaker 2: this is very important for the court case.
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  Speaker 1: Is is wearing a blouse and has his hair pulled
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  Speaker 1: up and done.
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  Speaker 2: He's He's I don't know, is is John Allen is
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  Speaker 2: dressed like a woman? Okay? Is he is?
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  Speaker 3: He?
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  Speaker 1: Are they transitioning?
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  Speaker 2: No? Okay, And we're gonna get into that in a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Okay. John Allen is suing Tessy J. For
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  Speaker 2: five thousand dollars for defamation of character. Teszy J is
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  Speaker 2: counter suing John Allen for five thousand dollars in pain
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  Speaker 2: and suffering.
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  Speaker 1: So five thousand dollars both sides.
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  Speaker 2: That's the max.
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  Speaker 1: So five thousand dollars for defamation, defamation of character and
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  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars for pain and sub's right, got it.
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  Speaker 2: So John starts off, So I met Teszy all the
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  Speaker 2: way back in OH One. We hit it off really well.
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  Speaker 2: We got a lot of things in common. He's known
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  Speaker 2: for throwing parties and I was invited to one of
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  Speaker 2: those party.
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  Speaker 1: Right on, dude, imagine being known for one that way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and your name is good muscles,
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  Speaker 1: part life is good if you're name is Teszy J
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  Speaker 1: and you're known for throwing parties.
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  Speaker 2: So then John says that I assumed the party was fun,
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  Speaker 2: turned live or whatever. Judge Mathews is like, assume you were.
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  Speaker 2: Weren't you there? And John says, yes, I was there,
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  Speaker 2: but he said I was talking about his curtains or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So and Mathews is like, what what does that have
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  Speaker 2: to do with the party? Was the party turned live?
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  Speaker 2: Like what is it about the party? And he and
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  Speaker 2: John says, look, all I'm saying is everything about the
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  Speaker 2: party was amazing. But after the party, I felt like
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  Speaker 2: our friendship wasn't genuine. And Matthews says, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Can I just when is this party in relation to
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and one one?
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  Speaker 2: It's just like last year, very recent.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so many of teszy.
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  Speaker 2: They've been friends for twenty years. This just happened.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So he goes to a party, that's right, it
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  Speaker 1: is turned that's right. But he's talking about he never
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  Speaker 1: admits to that. Okay, he's not admitting dictorgrapher. He's not
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  Speaker 1: admitt to talk about the curtains. He's not a minting
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  Speaker 1: to carry. I'm sorry, I just want to but he
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  Speaker 1: felt like after.
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  Speaker 2: The party their friendship was no longer genuine. Matthews says,
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  Speaker 2: what do you mean? John says, well, after the party
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  Speaker 2: he made a rant of me. He was drunk on
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  Speaker 2: Facebook talking about how I was talking about his curtains
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't say nothing about his grandma's old curtains.
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  Speaker 2: And he says old, just like that. And when he
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  Speaker 2: says old, Teddy Jay is so mad. He is like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't like trying to communce himself. Try not like
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  Speaker 2: you can tell me he went from a one to
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  Speaker 2: a ten immediately. Matthis is so confused. He is like,
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  Speaker 2: I have this like matthis is like can't wrap his
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  Speaker 2: brain around any of this and goes, run this by
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  Speaker 2: me again, y'all fell out because he thinks he thinks
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  Speaker 2: you don't like his grandma's curtains and and John says
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  Speaker 2: he assumed he made an assumption and Matthews says that's
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  Speaker 2: something to fall fall out about. And John says it
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  Speaker 2: was personal and maybe it's because them curtains was ugly,
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  Speaker 2: and Tessy is like, okay, but can I can I
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  Speaker 2: just think really quickly?
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  Speaker 1: It does sound as if John does not like it.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly appears as is it possible John said something to
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  Speaker 2: make Testy think that John doesn't like to kurk Chris
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  Speaker 2: now uh. Tessey gets to speak and he says, what up, judge,
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  Speaker 2: that's what he says. Listen, judge, he's claiming. And Matthis
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  Speaker 2: stops him and goes he he really, oh boy, yeah
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  Speaker 2: uh And he looks and John doesn't blink an eye
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  Speaker 2: that he his name's John. And he says, now, are
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  Speaker 2: you a female impersonator or are you transgender? And at
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  Speaker 2: this point John says neither I'm androgonus. Sure I got it.
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  Speaker 2: He says neither I'm and drogonus and Judge Matthis says androgynous.
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  Speaker 2: He says yes, and Judge Matthis says, okay, so the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: viewers at home know, Judge androg just means it's difficult
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  Speaker 2: to tell if someone's male or female. And John says, no,
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  Speaker 2: it does. And it means to the eye, you're able
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  Speaker 2: to appear as if you're female or male without much adjustment.
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  Speaker 2: And Judge Matthis says, that's what I said. Don't try
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  Speaker 2: to question my LGBTQ plus knowledge. John says, you got it, Judge,
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  Speaker 2: and Judge Matthis says, I've quickly become an expert in
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  Speaker 2: that area. I'm very curious, And then he continues, Judge
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  Speaker 2: Mathis says that okay, but just really quickly.
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  Speaker 1: So so John is and identifies as he Ham but
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  Speaker 1: has no problem.
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  Speaker 2: At least in this courtroom is dressing like it. Judge
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  Speaker 2: Matthis says, I've quickly become an expert in that area.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very curious. I want to be able to evolve
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  Speaker 2: and lift up and change my ignorance on the LGBTQ
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  Speaker 2: community's views and values. I want to be informed because
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  Speaker 2: the basis of our problems are ignorance, and when we're informed,
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  Speaker 2: we understand what's valuable and important to somebody else. So
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: it's important to me that I get this right. And
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I got it right. That's what Judge Matthis says. So
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Teszy Jay continues, I was in the room and I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: overheard John say them curtains old.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: As hell, which now is in line with what John
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: has been saying in the first to see him, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: he said.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't see, but I heard, and I didn't say
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: anything that night, but man, my grandma gave me those curtains.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Those curtains, Grandma grandma past, I think is Grandma's past.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: So two days later, I was thinking about it, and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I took me a little shot of blue vodka, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I felt like I needed to go live and rant
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: on this. My grandma gave me them curtains. You shouldn't
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: be focused on the curtains, in my mind, And if
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be focused on the curtains, you should be
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: focused on the door. That's what I'm saying, Judge, fantastic line. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: do we get to see any of the rant boy
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: dud Okay, John's like he should have addressed me personally
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: if he had that issue. Matthes Is like he should
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: have and Tess. He's like, I didn't address him in
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the video. You're honor and and and John's like, well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: people know it's me because of the description. That that's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: that's defamation. And Judge Mathies goes it is if you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: go on a video and you refer to someone, even
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: if it's not by name, but people know who you're
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: talking about and you defame their character, that is defamation.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And people making videos need to know that. Uh So
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: we get to see the video. Oh man, you had
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: there is a two minutes you can pull up. I
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: think the title of it is is hose be talking
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: about my curtains or something like that? Later you just
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: need to because it's so much as bleeped out in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: this video. We get a side by side of the
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: video and mathis reaction to the video, and mathis is
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: loving life. Basically, the parts of the video we get
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: to hear include, uh, I don't I don't just invite
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: anybody into my house because I believe in those demons,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: those spirits. These hoes be carrying them with them. Uh
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: they carry them into my house and you can't get
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: rid of them. This host said something about them curtains.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Mathis is dying, laughing, h y'all, don't be living with y'all.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Don't be inviting these hoes in your house because they
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: be hating on them curtains. And then he shows the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: curtains in the video and be like, why are you
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: gotta be hating on these curtains? They're old? But they
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: uh but uh. Mathis then is composed of himself and says,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I hope you can show as much of that video
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: as possible, but it's going to be all be bleeped out,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: And sure enough a lot of it was bleeped out.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: He says, that was really funny. But John, none of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: this refers to anyone specific, and.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Also he's not from what you're saying, it doesn't sound
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like he's describing anybody. He's just he's just referencing a hoe.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Just again, I know this
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: is two weeks in a row, but Matthew is gonna
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: get into that in a second as well. Uh. He says,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: uh uh. Tessy, also, those curtains look nice. Did she
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: did your grandma make them? And Tessy's like yeah, And
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: then Judge Mathis goes on a rant about his aunt
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: who is a seamstress and who was very according to
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Judge matthis, I want to get this right, very highly heralded.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And he said, I wish they would come over and
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: criticize aunt EVAs curtains outside my inside my house. You
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: think you heard something on that video, You've not heard
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: nothing yet, all right, that's what he says. So then
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he gets into a lesson about how he's not going
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to call either of them an h or a bee.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I got it, okay, And he says, I can't call
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you a h s or b's because I don't I'm
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: not in your community.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know that. So you guys call each other
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: h's and bees all the time. That can't be defamation
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of character because you guys say the ahs and the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: bees all the time. I would never do that. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: would never do it. You wouldn't come into my house
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and call me that. He looked at his bailiff and
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: he goes, bailiff can't call me an inn. But I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: can go call my family in if I want to,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And then the bailiff I can't call. I don't remember.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: There's a really mean term for Irish people. I don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that term off the top of my head.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But I can't call him I did, well, he can
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: go call his Irish family that if he wants to,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: he can do that. That's his right. If you should
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: know what the people, how people talk in your own
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: culture is important to that culture. So I'm not gonna
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: call you any ahes or bees, but you can call
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: each other that. That's not my problem. I can't do that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: How can we know he was definitely talking about you, John,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: John says, well, we have similar friends, and those friends
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: brought it to my attention, and Judge Mathis goes, did
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you talk about his grandma's curtains? Listen.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: The only way in my estimation that that John here's
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: this video and knows that that Tessy's talking about him,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: is if in fact.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: John was talking about the curtains at that At the point.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: John looks Matthis square in the eye says, no, I
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: didn't say anything about the curtains. Teszy then says, oh
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Lord Jesus. Matthis then says, then why did he make
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: it up? Why do you make the video? Why'd you
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: think it was you? And John says, maybe he's insecure.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: He turned around on me, really like he's in No,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: he's really insecure. Maybe he just turned on me. That's
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: why our friendship hadn't been the same. And Math's like, so,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: why are you countersuing and he says because. Teddy says
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: because John hit me at church. He says, y'all are
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: fighting in church, and John says, look, I saw the
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: video and we went to church. Uh, and and he
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: just turned really fast. He turned on me really fast
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: and tried to walk away. So I just like, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I booped him. Now John, John is admitting to booping.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: John did admit to booping. Yes, I booped him with
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: my bag. And Teszy's like, John confronted me. He walked
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: up to me. His entire friends and family are all
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the round. I didn't get a word in. Everybody's there.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: They're all boosting him like boost mobile, that's what he says.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I think they're just making their firing him up. They're
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: boosting him. He hit me with the same bag that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: he's got now. And then he asked me why I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: posted it, and I said, it's about the curtains and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you can't disrespect my grandma's curtains and that's why I
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: posted it. And matthis is like, so, this is just
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: messy gossip, and then Tessy goes, John's just a messy person,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: messy bun, messy person calls out John's bun in fact,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: in fact, I'm not here to judge a bun one
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: way or the other. I just I'm not. I don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: have any comments on uh the hair, I just don't none.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: So uh, they start going back and forth, and then
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Tessy says, I thought the situation was over in church.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't plan on doing anything after it until I
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: heard I was getting sued by John. I just thought
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: God was gonna judge him. And then matthis is like, well,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: God judges whether you go to heaven or Hell. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: judge whether you go to hell. That's jail. So I'm
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: judging today. And then we get the uh, we get
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the judgment on the curtains. This is tough. Five of characters,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: five thousand paid and suffering booted him in church. This
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: is tough.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I I am of the belief that John definitely talked
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: about the curtains of the party. Yeah, I think we
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: all are, because there's no judging by what you said
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: in the video.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And and correct me if I'm wrong. There's nothing in that video.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That would make anybody think that it was John unless
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you heard John talk about the curtains at the party,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: his grandma's curtains. So I don't think that's defamation of character. Okay,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: is not calling up. I was saying John's not getting anything.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: There's nothing in that video that defate Eames John, got it?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Now? He booped him, He did boop. He booped him?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Is a boop worth five thousand dollars?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Pain and suffering?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Is there any medical records? Do you have to go
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: This is pain and this is suffering, humiliation.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I I I.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Would, I would say he is gonna get a little
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of this. This is not a boop. Is not five
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I think a boob is worth five hundred dollars.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to give to Tesz.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Judge Mathis is very close to you. He gives Teszy
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: a thousand day that is worth a boo worth a
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, And then obviously John is not getting anything.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: And stop talking about people's curtains. You clearly talked, you
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: des talked about it was a roller coaster ride and
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it was one of my favorite cases definitely, and the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: two John and Tezi are wonderful characters. You just need
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: to watch the video when you get a chance. Fantastic boy.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: We gaggled hard today.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, ah we did. Let's let's do it
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: again next time. Yeah, let's do it again next time.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: We'll be back in a couple of weeks with another gavel,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: another trip into the chambers.
• 27:11
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• 27:20
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• 27:23
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• 27:27
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