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Balloon Mind State · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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Speaker 1: Coming up on this week's episode of Hip Hop Now podcast,
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Speaker 1: my thoughts on Mac Miller's latest posthumous album of Lunarism.
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Speaker 2: Cam and Jim.
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Speaker 1: Jones are at odds again, but this time Jimmy responds
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Speaker 1: with bars and is Drake's lawsuit against Universal Music Group
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Speaker 1: bad for the future of rap battles? Not them smack joints.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about professional recording artists, not saying they're not.
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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. Let's get a.
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Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: And recently this week the trending topic was Drake not
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Speaker 1: only withdrawing his petitions, but following a federal lawsuit against
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Speaker 1: Universal Music Group over the song not Like Us and
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Speaker 1: all the things or the accusations he's making regarding that song.
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Speaker 1: So he's not suing Kendrick, He's suing UMG in regards
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Speaker 1: to Kendrick's disrecord towards him. We're gonna talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit later about what that means for the future of
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Speaker 1: ready to the business. So if you have been literally
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Speaker 1: under a rock, Cam and Jim Jones at Odds once again,
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Speaker 1: you know Jim Jones went on an interview, well this
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Speaker 1: is the series of events because we're not really gonna
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Speaker 1: talk that much about it, but I think it's interesting
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Speaker 1: because there's some music that may come into play in
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Speaker 1: this instance. Cam and Mace have been at Odds basically
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Speaker 1: off and on for years with Jim Jones feeling underappreciated
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Speaker 1: by Cam, and in most instances, some I could kind
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Speaker 1: of see Jimmy's standpoint. Some I kind of feel like, dog,
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Speaker 1: you're a grown man.
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Speaker 2: Move on you.
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Speaker 1: You've you basically made yourself a star, regardless if you
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Speaker 1: wrote it. You know, you made yourself a star on
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Speaker 1: your level. And you know, we remember, and he was
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Speaker 1: on Funk Masterflex you know, High Ain't seven talking and
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Speaker 1: crying and then Cam did the IG Live talking about
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Speaker 1: the situation with Jimmy where he was stepping at can
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Speaker 1: of pepsi like a million times and a tub of
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Speaker 1: popcorn had pepsi on it on the last episode of
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Speaker 1: It Is What It Is, while Cam ranton, who knows,
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Speaker 1: maybe this dude just be like, yo, Pepsi'm about to
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Speaker 1: talk about Jimmy again, what's up product placement? But recently
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Speaker 1: jim Jones talked on he was on the I forget
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Speaker 1: whose podcast he was on, but he did an interview
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Speaker 1: and part of his negativity towards Mace and Cam more
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Speaker 1: and really his willingness to go on a podcast and
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Speaker 1: talk about it really had more to do with Cam
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Speaker 1: and fifty cent kind of you know, linking together or whatever,
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Speaker 1: and I think it's a little bit deeper than that,
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Speaker 1: to be honest, because when you look at it, I
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Speaker 1: think this most recent issue probably has more to do
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Speaker 1: with Cam teaming up with Mace to have this successful
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Speaker 1: sports podcast if that sometimes addresses you know, other things
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Speaker 1: outside of sports, obviously, and it was very lucrative for
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Speaker 1: those two, Like they're hot now, I thought it would
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Speaker 1: have been dope considering. I mean, it's not necessary, and
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Speaker 1: it's damn sure not needed, but I thought when Cam
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Speaker 1: and Mace started, it is what it is, you know,
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Speaker 1: almost like a newsdance type situation. I thought bringing Jimmy
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Speaker 1: on with his online popular social media weather reports would
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Speaker 1: have been a nice touch. But obviously there were issues there.
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Speaker 1: So when Jimmy went on this podcast and talked about
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Speaker 1: Mace and Cam and not really messing with them like
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Speaker 1: that and blah blah blah, you can go check it out.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit in and quote all of it.
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Speaker 1: It was interesting because when you look at it, and
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Speaker 1: Cam and Mace pointed this out, Jimmy owes a lot
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Speaker 1: to them.
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Speaker 2: He owes a lot of.
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Speaker 1: Their success, regardless of people who may say, well, Jimmy
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Speaker 1: was holding them down or holding Cam down on.
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Speaker 2: Some street stuff.
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Speaker 1: Y'all gotta stop mixing that in with things when dudes
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Speaker 1: is celebrities, Like, they don't have to be in the
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Speaker 1: streets to be honest, if we want to keep it real,
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Speaker 1: they don't have to be around any of it to
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Speaker 1: be honest.
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Speaker 2: They're rich enough to be away from all of it.
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Speaker 1: Like they're people who don't even make millions of dollars,
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Speaker 1: who make.
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Speaker 2: Enough to be away from it.
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Speaker 1: Right, But it's all about the facadey and the image
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Speaker 1: and everything that comes into that. So Cam and in
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Speaker 1: Mace's return, right, Cam I believe was on vacation and
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Speaker 1: Cameron on It Is what it Is goes on a
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Speaker 1: rant of talking about Jim Jones and really talking more
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Speaker 1: so about him not being from Harlem, which if you
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Speaker 1: know Jim Jones, it's on like multiple album covers where
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Speaker 1: he talks about being from Harlem and representing Harlem, Like
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Speaker 1: if Jim Jones is from anywhere else other than Harlem,
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Speaker 1: he has been representing Harlem as if he was born
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Speaker 1: in it.
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Speaker 2: Now I am from Brooklyn, New York.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into the politics of the
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Speaker 1: streets and stuff like that because Honestly, I don't care.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't care, right.
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Speaker 1: Because it doesn't mean anything in the long like it
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Speaker 1: means something to people for whatever reason, but at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, it really doesn't mean anything when
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Speaker 1: gentrification can come to your neighborhood at any point and
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Speaker 1: take it over, so you can keep naming streets. You
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Speaker 1: don't own anything. We don't own anything. Let me be
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Speaker 1: more clear about that. But Cam was this is what
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Speaker 1: Cam said, Yeah, you are from the Bronx. Bro you
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Speaker 1: are not from Harlem. I did not grow up with you.
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Speaker 1: What else he said, This is still in Harlem remix,
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Speaker 1: which he said on Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: My bad.
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Speaker 1: That's something else that's uptown downtown east Side. Oh this
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Speaker 1: is Jim Jones. Okay, well let's not talk about that
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Speaker 1: too much. But essentially that was the thing, and along
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Speaker 1: with the MAINO situation and saying everybody who pressed Jim
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Speaker 1: Jones he's friends with.
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Speaker 2: So he's doing a lot to discredit Jim Jones. Right.
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Speaker 1: The main thing that I think is Jim Jones's hook,
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Speaker 1: which is, you know, being a representative of Harlem, which ironically,
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Speaker 1: Jim Jones has a single out that I know at
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Speaker 1: least in New York. I've heard it a couple times
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Speaker 1: where you know he's repping Hall Them again, and in
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Speaker 1: response to Cam's rant about him, he's been doing these
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Speaker 1: Instagram stories teasing music, including a remix to this new
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Speaker 1: Harlem record. And I gotta say, it doesn't sound bad.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound bad at all. It doesn't make me
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Speaker 1: feel like, you know, Jimmy is whack for this or
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Speaker 1: whack for that. It feels like Jimmy wants the battle
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Speaker 1: camp now. I'm gonna tell you like this straight up.
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Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of Jim Jones. El Capo
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Speaker 1: is the album to me where he shine the brightest.
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Speaker 1: I know he's had hits, and you know, I know
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Speaker 1: there's the you know, stack bundles and Max b ghostwriting
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Speaker 1: for him situation.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what is what.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think his response to push your t during
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Speaker 1: their very brief one sided battle was any good. But
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Speaker 1: I'm interested in this one though, because for two people
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Speaker 1: who know each other and are talking this way about
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Speaker 1: each other, I think what they would have to say
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Speaker 1: would be way more interesting than Jim Jones trying to
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Speaker 1: challenge any other rapper. And he just does what he does, right,
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Speaker 1: you might as well just go and make music. Stop
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Speaker 1: trying to battle. But having him make this record about
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Speaker 1: Mace or Cameron the situation. Now, let me just end
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Speaker 1: this hit.
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Speaker 2: On no level. Is Jim Jones better than Mace or Camp.
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Speaker 1: Cameron lyrically far superior, never heard any ghostwriting anything. He's
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Speaker 1: far superior. His freestyles on the show right to start
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Speaker 1: the show. It is what it is. It's better than
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Speaker 1: Jim Jones' single outlem. But see, Jim Jones is a vibe, right,
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Speaker 1: He's a cool vibe that goes with it. He's almost
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Speaker 1: like New York version of Rick Ross. Right, Ross ain't
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Speaker 1: ain't nothing special. He's typically saying the same things all
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Speaker 1: the time. But you like it. It sounds good, So
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Speaker 1: why why tell that man to stop? And that's how
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Speaker 1: I am with Jimmy. Why tell him to stop? It
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Speaker 1: sounds good? Why would he stop? He's definitely not better
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Speaker 1: than Mace. I know some of y'all old heads that
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Speaker 1: the only Mace you know is a shiny suit and
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Speaker 1: a smile on a bad boy. He's never been as
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Speaker 1: successful as Mace. Let's just get that out the way.
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Speaker 1: Go listen to when Mace's dissed camera not that long ago,
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Speaker 1: and tell me Mace wasn't spitting on that record, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And people always like, oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: always hear about the murder Mace, but I don't never
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Speaker 1: hear him. You ain't listening because you waiting for the
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Speaker 1: Hollywood swinging record to drive to be like this, the guy,
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Speaker 1: it's not what we're talking about, DoD, We're not talking
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Speaker 1: about that. He's not better than Jimmy, is not better
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Speaker 1: than either of these guys. Like that doesn't mean knowing them.
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Speaker 1: He can't create a record that can compete. And the
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Speaker 1: stuff I've been hearing so far from Jimmy, I'm like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I think I like this because I think with the
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Speaker 1: El Capo album that was like Pete when he got
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Speaker 1: with the Heat Makers, the beats were on point, his flow,
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Speaker 1: what he was talking about was perfect, and then later
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Speaker 1: he got I think he got with Harry Fraud, and
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Speaker 1: with Harry Fraud, I'm sometimes his beats just aren't that
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Speaker 1: great to me. So I felt like it took something
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Speaker 1: away from what some of the momentum Jimmy had gained
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Speaker 1: with the El Capo album, and I think he had
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Speaker 1: one other project in between, and also like some dipset
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Speaker 1: Christmas whatever. But I think it's sounding like Elle Capell
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Speaker 1: Jimmy might be back, so we'll see what happens.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: One thing I don't like is the fact that Jim
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Speaker 1: Jones in recent years seemed really really eager to have
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Speaker 1: a quote unquote beef with somebody, and it looked like
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Speaker 1: he was using it to launch new music. Now, he
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be the only one who does that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Joey Badas just kind of did that but didn't really
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Speaker 1: drop an album, so he did hisself with disservice. But
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Speaker 1: Jim Jones has been responding with beats and bars. And
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Speaker 1: that's not to say Cam won't, but it looks like
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Speaker 1: he's trying to use the attention to launch something dope
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Speaker 1: so that people will just mess with the music, kind
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Speaker 1: of like me, Like I just messed with the music.
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Speaker 2: So we'll see.
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Speaker 1: So recently, recently, as in right now, as of the
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Speaker 1: recording of this podcast, Mac Miller's second posthumous album has dropped.
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Speaker 1: It's called Balloonarism. It was recorded between the years twenty
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Speaker 1: thirteen and twenty fourteen. Kind of peak artistry for Mac
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Speaker 1: Miller where he kind of found his niche, and his
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Speaker 1: niche is somewhere.
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Speaker 2: In between.
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Speaker 1: Rapping but sing songy rapping and almost emo rapping.
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Speaker 2: Now, ye'ah know how I do when it comes.
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Speaker 1: To reviews, I give you three listens. First listen is
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Speaker 1: just off impression. Second listens is kind of to listen
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Speaker 1: more intently to the lyrics, to the music, to the sequencing,
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Speaker 1: the concepts right. And then the third listen is just
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Speaker 1: to confirm my thoughts and for those who don't like
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Speaker 1: the way my thoughts are that this album is mid now,
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, if you love mac Miller, you might
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Speaker 1: love this. If you love emo rap, you might really
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Speaker 1: love this. If you hate emo rap, don't even press play.
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Speaker 1: I don't personally hate it at all. Again, I've said
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Speaker 1: on this podcast, I am not the biggest Mac Miller fan.
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Speaker 1: I don't hate him like I like I hate Logic
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Speaker 1: like I don't like him even though he had one
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Speaker 1: album that was I ain't on front, I ain't hate
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Speaker 1: on the menu. But mac Miller is different, and I
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Speaker 1: kind of felt like mac Miller for me, has always
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Speaker 1: hit or miss. He's gonna have some things. I like
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have some things I don't like and I
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Speaker 1: feel like with this album, especially when it comes to
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Speaker 1: posthumous albums, it's it's tough to say that the artists
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Speaker 1: would have wanted this album out right now, I know
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Speaker 1: this album has been in songs from this album have
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Speaker 1: been available, I believe in mixtape form for some time.
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Speaker 2: I never heard it.
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Speaker 1: But what I dislike let me just say what I
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Speaker 1: dislike before I get into what I like about it.
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Speaker 2: Up front.
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Speaker 1: What I don't like about it is just I'm not
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Speaker 1: the emo rap kind of guy. I don't dislike it completely,
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Speaker 1: but at some point I have to connect with what
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Speaker 1: you're saying, and if I don't, then I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: like it, especially if I'm not connecting with the music.
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Speaker 1: The music of this album is cool, but it fits
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Speaker 1: the tone of his lyrics.
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Speaker 2: You know. The music is like.
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Speaker 1: Almost dreamy sounding, you know, almost live instruments, sounding almost
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Speaker 1: like a jam session, which is what it was when
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Speaker 1: it was recorded, a jam session.
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Speaker 2: And it's almost as if Mac Miller.
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Speaker 1: Remember now, I said that song called Book of Rahms
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Speaker 1: on a God's on an album where he was like
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Speaker 1: flipping through his book of rhymes, and he will say
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Speaker 1: around to the beat and then just try something else.
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Speaker 1: I feel like this was Mac Miller trying things as
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Speaker 1: an artist. Some people would say, well, he would have
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Speaker 1: wanted it help because he made it.
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Speaker 2: That's not how artists are wired.
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Speaker 1: Artists will make anything because everything is driven by inspiration,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, whether it's positive or negative.
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Speaker 1: That's how they take those emotions. They take those experiences
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Speaker 1: and pour them into their lyrics. And this particular project,
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Speaker 1: even though when I look at Apple Music's like description
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Speaker 1: of it, he does talk a lot about death, which
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Speaker 1: is eerie, you know, and like seeing himself like almost
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Speaker 1: being outside of his body kind of situation. But he
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Speaker 1: talks about being high a lot also, and I know
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Speaker 1: that's something that's in the lyrics that they wouldn't want
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Speaker 1: to put in a description, but it's there, and unfortunately
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Speaker 1: for me, it sticks out like a sore thumb because
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Speaker 1: it makes me feel like, Damn Homie was really going
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Speaker 1: through something to make him, you know, get to the
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Speaker 1: point where you know, not only he's rapping about being high,
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Speaker 1: but it was obviously you know, he was high a lot.
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Speaker 2: I don't know all the time, I didn't know his
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Speaker 2: life like that.
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Speaker 1: But he poured it to his lyrics, which isn't bad
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Speaker 1: because I mean, I grew up in the in the
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Speaker 1: nineties where it was like the Philly Blunt era though
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Speaker 1: mad Weed songs and all kinds of stuff. But considering
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Speaker 1: what we know about mac Miller's end, this album can
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Speaker 1: be a little eerie to something.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: If you like to get high and you listen to
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Speaker 1: this and you like emo rat man, this is in
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Speaker 1: the pocket for you. It's fourteen songs. I think it's
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Speaker 1: around maybe around the hour, I think in listening for
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Speaker 1: some reason, I don't have it open. No, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: we're gonna just look real quick. We're gonna give you
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Speaker 1: the details. Fourteen songs, Yeah, fifty eight minutes and forty
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Speaker 1: three seconds. Features only include Scissa on a song called
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Speaker 1: DJ's Chord Organ and Delusion a dude name well, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's a dude. I don't remember actually
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Speaker 1: Delusion Thomas. And at the end of the day, you know,
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Speaker 1: I was listening to this album. I listened to it
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Speaker 1: three times and I just felt like this just isn't
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Speaker 1: enough for me personally to really like it, you know,
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Speaker 1: like that this is you know, it's worth checking out
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Speaker 1: out of curiosity, and I knew what to expect, but
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Speaker 1: I think the first single is much better than the
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Speaker 1: rest of the album. And I feel like there's some
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Speaker 1: other joints on there that are cool. But again, and
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Speaker 1: the theme is more so a jam session feel. Again,
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Speaker 1: the music is more dreamy and thought provoking. And that's
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Speaker 1: how his lyrics and his approach to the lyrics, whether
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Speaker 1: he's rapping or doing the sing song you rap, that's
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Speaker 1: just what it is. So again, if that sounds good
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Speaker 1: to you, I think you will like it. I'm not
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Speaker 1: here to tell you not to like it, but I
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Speaker 1: think if you feel the way I feel where it's cool,
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Speaker 1: it's worth checking out. But I probably won't listen again.
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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with it. So Unfortunately, we don't
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Speaker 1: have a early candidate yet for Best of twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean it won't happen some down the line.
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Speaker 1: As far as Possumus albums go, I think this one
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Speaker 1: is cool. I think the one they dropped before this
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Speaker 1: for mac Miller was a little better.
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Speaker 2: To be honest. So there you have it. And last.
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Speaker 1: So serious question with Drake's federal lawsuit against Universal Music
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Speaker 1: Group for defamation of character, citing the song the disc
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Speaker 1: record by Kendrick Kamar not like us specifically referring to him,
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Speaker 1: referring to him Drake as a pedo a PDF. I
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Speaker 1: think most of the internet and in my early thoughts
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Speaker 1: on it in another video are the same. But I
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Speaker 1: wonder what this does to rappers battling in the future,
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Speaker 1: especially if Drake is able to get any kind of
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Speaker 1: w out of it. I'm not talking about, you know,
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Speaker 1: he wins the case kind of situation. Who knows, this
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Speaker 1: could be dismissed tomorrow, But I'm just talking about a
24:05
Speaker 1: win where like a settlement, right or even getting dropped,
24:11
Speaker 1: because for some rappers getting dropped is the end. For Drake,
24:14
Speaker 1: it won't. He's too popular for it to be the end.
24:18
Speaker 1: Someone will pick up the pieces, if not himself, as
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Speaker 1: an independent artist. And I just kind of feel like
24:27
Speaker 1: we're gonna go get somewhere down the line where there's
24:31
Speaker 1: rappers who don't like each other and are of a
24:35
Speaker 1: certain success level and are going to feel like, hey,
24:40
Speaker 1: you can't say that, I'm gonna ssue you. Oh, I'm
24:44
Speaker 1: going to sue you know the record label for helping
24:48
Speaker 1: you win, because that's essentially what this is. Not like
24:52
Speaker 1: us ended the battle. It just did meet the Grahams
24:58
Speaker 1: was a hell of a response to family matters. But
25:03
Speaker 1: the Cherry on top was not like us. It was
25:05
Speaker 1: almost like the back to back, Right, I gave you
25:09
Speaker 1: this record and before you're gonna respond to that record,
25:12
Speaker 1: We're gonna dance on your grave.
25:14
Speaker 2: But not like us, and it.
25:16
Speaker 1: Became a huge hit. But if you're looking at somebody
25:21
Speaker 1: who is gonna point out how record companies know battles
25:28
Speaker 1: can be very lucrative for them, you gotta question some things,
25:36
Speaker 1: like there's gotta be some truth to some of the things.
25:38
Speaker 1: Now again, I talk about this completely in another video,
25:43
Speaker 1: So I'm fully aware that Drake has probably benefited from
25:48
Speaker 1: the same tactics that he's accusing Universal Music Group of.
25:53
Speaker 2: But I just feel like it's so corny for hip.
25:56
Speaker 1: Hop because now you have somebody who's literally following a
26:02
Speaker 1: lawsuit when he started the personals, right, my personal news
26:11
Speaker 1: didn't work against you, So now I'm going to sue
26:15
Speaker 1: you because you don't have no evidence that I'm doing
26:18
Speaker 1: the things you said I'm doing. Well, he had no
26:21
Speaker 1: evidence that Kendrick was beating his wife or at odds
26:25
Speaker 1: with his wife, or that him and Dave free is
26:27
Speaker 1: Homie were having a problem, and that he's raising Dave
26:31
Speaker 1: Free's son and not his own, Like.
26:35
Speaker 2: Drake said, all of this stuff first.
26:36
Speaker 1: So it just puts a stain on something that could
26:40
Speaker 1: have been easily forgotten about. Every time Drake pops out,
26:48
Speaker 1: what happened in that battle becomes top of mind for
26:52
Speaker 1: everybody who lived through it. It's him, if he had
26:59
Speaker 1: fallen back a little bit. We know he gotta make music,
27:02
Speaker 1: gotta make records. He's doing that anyway, right, but just
27:07
Speaker 1: not even acknowledge the battle anymore with no slide marks
27:13
Speaker 1: on podcasts and in songs and dropping records that sneak
27:18
Speaker 1: dissen but then you're taking them off like he's just
27:22
Speaker 1: like somebody put on YouTube said, this is the longest
27:27
Speaker 1: in hip hop ever, and it is.
27:31
Speaker 2: But it's Drake who's keeping it going.
27:35
Speaker 1: And again, we don't have the super Bowl performance yet,
27:39
Speaker 1: at least not as of the recording this podcast.
27:42
Speaker 2: You know, if you're from the future, get your ass
27:43
Speaker 2: out of here. You already know what happened.
27:47
Speaker 1: But I just kind of feel like it leaves a
27:49
Speaker 1: sour taste in the mouth of hip hop in regards
27:53
Speaker 1: to battlement. Right, Like, imagine if Kumo d decided to
27:59
Speaker 1: through l L jah Ru decided to. I know, this
28:03
Speaker 1: is not the same thing because he's not suing Kendrick.
28:07
Speaker 2: But this is kind of how he works, right.
28:09
Speaker 1: He's he does it. It's about the battle because he
28:15
Speaker 1: keeps saying that song wasn't that good, that song wasn't
28:19
Speaker 1: gonna be that popular if he didn't have help. So
28:23
Speaker 1: imagine any of these artists doing the same in the
28:27
Speaker 1: history of hip hop doing the same thing. Imagine after Ether,
28:30
Speaker 1: jay Z just went on and was just like, man,
28:32
Speaker 1: I'm suing everybody Hot ninety seven, you know, everybody who
28:37
Speaker 1: played a role and make it Ether big. When sometimes
28:41
Speaker 1: you just gotta look at it as it's the game.
28:45
Speaker 2: You lost.
28:47
Speaker 1: All those videos and people's reactions, they weren't hypnotized.
28:50
Speaker 2: It wasn't a gimmick.
28:52
Speaker 1: The beauty of that this record is the fact that
28:56
Speaker 1: it became a hip record because that had never been done.
29:01
Speaker 1: And this dude just does not want to believe that
29:04
Speaker 1: that was the case. That he don't want to believe
29:06
Speaker 1: that he lost. So now it's the semantics war. I'm
29:12
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I hate it for hip hop. I
29:17
Speaker 1: don't know how far it's gonna go if it ends here,
29:19
Speaker 1: but how can I not be surprised where you talk
29:24
Speaker 1: about popping out every time he pops out, we gotta
29:27
Speaker 1: remind him of the l and I wish he would
29:29
Speaker 1: just settle the situation, settle it down and release some
29:35
Speaker 1: music that's unrelated.
29:37
Speaker 2: I mean, you could take jabs here and there, it's
29:39
Speaker 2: par for the.
29:39
Speaker 1: Court, but not the focus that he seems to have
29:46
Speaker 1: on it. Like he seems to have one hundred focused
29:51
Speaker 1: on changing the narrative when he just needs to say
29:55
Speaker 1: something slick here and there, like I'll give you one
29:58
Speaker 1: line to me that for most of us who are
30:02
Speaker 1: capable of moving on from the NAS and jay Z battle,
30:07
Speaker 1: thought about right when on American gangst the success the
30:13
Speaker 1: song with jay Z and featuring NASA. This was the
30:16
Speaker 1: second collaboration they did. The first was Black Republican Or
30:20
Speaker 1: for NASA's album, And I remember when jay Z said
30:24
Speaker 1: one line that to me said it was it's officially
30:29
Speaker 1: time to move on. People said hovah was over such dummies.
30:35
Speaker 1: Even if I fell or land on a bunch of
30:38
Speaker 1: money that ain't got nothing like Okay, that's what they was.
30:45
Speaker 2: Hovah was over me.
30:47
Speaker 1: I lost blah blah blah rich at the end, and
30:53
Speaker 1: I'm moving on. I'm collaboring with Nas, I'm doing this
30:57
Speaker 1: American gangst the album.
30:58
Speaker 2: I'm moving On.
31:00
Speaker 1: That's all Drake needed to do was come out with
31:05
Speaker 1: a new record, acknowledge the battle in a very indirect
31:10
Speaker 1: direct way, but also acknowledge his status as one of
31:14
Speaker 1: the top performing artists. Meanwhile, he's devaluing his own music
31:22
Speaker 1: and credibility, like every time he open his mouth now
31:25
Speaker 1: all people do is criticize it because he can't let
31:28
Speaker 1: it go. They won't let it go if you don't
31:31
Speaker 1: let it go, Drake. So hopefully I think this will
31:36
Speaker 1: be the case. But hopefully, you know, in hip hop
31:39
Speaker 1: we can eventually get battles here and there without people
31:43
Speaker 1: trying to match, because I don't think anybody should try
31:47
Speaker 1: to do that match what just happened with this battle,
31:51
Speaker 1: or even go as far as not liking a certain
31:53
Speaker 1: thing that a person said and taking legal action, because
31:57
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