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Angels/O’s Taylor Ward/Grayson Rodriguez trade, 4 QOs accepted, Skenes shuts down Yanks rumor article · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: We're here. This is actually the last show for a
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  Speaker 1: minute for mister Pizinski, not for Repti, but for mister Prizinski.
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  Speaker 1: for next week. But we will see you after today
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  Speaker 1: on November No me December one, November December one. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: reminder though to everyone. I mean, we're still running the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the week. Next week, we'll do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: for those two days, and stay tuned for some Winter Meetings.
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  Speaker 1: News people ask us about the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to give everything away yet, but I
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  Speaker 1: think very promising that we will have some fun during
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  Speaker 1: the Winter Meetings in person. Do you know where they
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  Speaker 1: are this year? I do in Orlando, Ah, in Orlando,
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  Speaker 1: our backyard.
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  Speaker 2: They are. They're right, they're a Disney well not in Disney,
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  Speaker 2: but they're by Disney.
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  Speaker 1: Will you hang at the bar to say hi? To everyone.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna probably end up over there a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I just nobody does that anymore. Though. Nobody goes to
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  Speaker 2: the bar and just sits around.
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  Speaker 1: I remember agree the writers and media and proc.
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  Speaker 2: But none, none of the people from the teams do.
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  Speaker 1: The jibs are in the Sweet Slash Bunkers the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: You're lucky if you see them.
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  Speaker 1: Also if they come out, what happens? Have you seen
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  Speaker 1: this before years back?
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  Speaker 2: But they also get attacked by not the media, but
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  Speaker 2: the people looking for jobs. That's I mean, they get problem.
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  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I had never been until I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many years ago. They've been in
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  Speaker 2: Orlando a few times, and I've been a couple of times,
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  Speaker 2: and I never realized how many people just sit there
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  Speaker 2: wait for and just yes, and they just and if
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  Speaker 2: they see you, like they see me and recognize me
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, can you introduce me to who what?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like? No, like, no, I can't, No.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. There are tons of aspiring workers in the
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  Speaker 1: industry who attend there's a job fair. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: on the minor league side that happens, which is important.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're trying to crack baseball, usually the minor
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  Speaker 1: leagues is the best way to go. Yes, they do
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  Speaker 1: have opportunities there where minor league gms or whatever the
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  Speaker 1: in front offices they're calling them. They will meet with
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  Speaker 1: students and recent grads.
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  Speaker 2: People forget the minor leagues are at the Winter meetings too.
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  Speaker 2: People think it's just the big leagues, But the minor
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  Speaker 2: leagues have their own like wing basically, or they do
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  Speaker 2: their own thing right, and then they chill products off,
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  Speaker 2: and then they do the home then they do the
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  Speaker 2: big league side, which what everyone kind of talks about.
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  Speaker 2: But this is not just for Major League Baseball. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of for all of baseball. The one thing I
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  Speaker 2: had professional baseball, I should right all pro baseball crats.
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  Speaker 1: I would tell this to kids when I came across
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  Speaker 1: them when I was there. I'm like, I'll talk to you,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do whatever, I kind of help you. But you're
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  Speaker 1: talking to the wrong people. I'm like, you're in the
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  Speaker 1: wrong area. You're talking to the broadcasters. Right when I
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  Speaker 1: was at MLB at the time, I'm like, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: to broadcasters. I'm like, you're trying to work in a
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  Speaker 1: front office. We got almost nothing for you here. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: minor league sections over there, go work for a team,
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  Speaker 1: dominate over there, you'll be in an affiliated you know,
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  Speaker 1: pro program, and then you can work your way up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, if you want to work in TV, talk
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  Speaker 1: to us. If you don't, don't talk to us, don't
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  Speaker 1: waste your time.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine how many people are. I went to
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  Speaker 3: the end of the winter meetings one time when it
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  Speaker 3: was in Nashville. I flew in. I helped a guy
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  Speaker 3: pedal one of his products to the trainers because it
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  Speaker 3: was a new like medical product thing, and then I
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  Speaker 3: flew back out and all the people were leaving that
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  Speaker 3: day because the trainers come at the end and then
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  Speaker 3: they have their own little bats reunion stuff and everything,
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  Speaker 3: and there were so many people. I forget Grand old Opry.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is where I flew into where they
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  Speaker 3: had it. It was so many people. I can't imagine.
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  Speaker 3: When it's like everybody crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. And yeah, it does get very busy around
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  Speaker 1: the lobby. Anyway, we'll talk more about it as it
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  Speaker 1: gets closer, but by the time AJ's back, it will
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  Speaker 1: be a week away from that time. Period.
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  Speaker 2: And also there's there's it's a crazy time here in
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  Speaker 2: Orlando because there's two celebrity golf tournaments and the Winter
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  Speaker 2: Meetings at the same time, and it's a pretty part
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  Speaker 2: and they're all pretty close to each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, pretty popular time for people to come down to
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  Speaker 1: Orlando in general.
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  Speaker 2: Well not really because of our school.
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  Speaker 1: Well for kids right not at the parks, but it's warm.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes people adult wise will come down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the parks. That's like the least between Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: and Christmas. That like three week time is kind of
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  Speaker 2: a weird time because everyone's either getting back from Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: and the of those three weeks until Christmas hits, or
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  Speaker 2: they're waiting for Christmas to come down. Because now, if
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  Speaker 2: you go to Disney in those parks, Sea World and
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  Speaker 2: Universal and all that between about a week before Christmas
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  Speaker 2: till New Year's good, look, you better better hire yourself
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  Speaker 2: a guide.
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  Speaker 1: Wait till the hot time right after Thanksgiving is when
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  Speaker 1: I should consider going.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, usually because that's when quiet attendance is down. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: take I mean you still you know, if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to Disney, you're still looking at I think one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty dollars a ticket, I just for one day,
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  Speaker 2: but I.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't want the line situation. So I'm just whenever
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  Speaker 1: you can go where there are less children. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not talking about Disney, more universal for me.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been so I haven't been to the Epic.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta get to Epic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, there was this trade that was super interesting
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  Speaker 1: last night. Let's charge them out, charge them out. I
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  Speaker 1: see Taylor Ward moved over from the Angels to the Orioles. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Orioles looking for more power in the outfields. They get
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  Speaker 1: a guy who will be there for a rental one season.
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: And then I see who goes back on the other end,
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  Speaker 1: Grayson Rodriguez going back to the Angels. So this is
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  Speaker 1: a big leaguer for big league or deal. I was
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  Speaker 1: shocked that they essentially gave up on Grayson Rodriguez, who
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  Speaker 1: has top end stuff when he's healthy. You didn't pitch
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  Speaker 1: this past season. What do you think of this deal?
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand it from the Orioles side of it,
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  Speaker 2: I don't you're getting a one. You're giving up a
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  Speaker 2: guy who has four years of control. And Grayson, now
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  Speaker 2: he's been hurt, he missed all the year but when
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  Speaker 2: he's healthy, he could be a two to three starter
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  Speaker 2: for you. And what did the Orioles not have last
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  Speaker 2: year starting pitching? So why would you give up on
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  Speaker 2: a guy who you developed? You got it all the
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  Speaker 2: way through. And yes, I know he's hurt, but they
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  Speaker 2: know the medicals better than anybody. They should know that
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  Speaker 2: if he's healthy or not. So they trade him for
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Ward in an already crowded outfield they have, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: because they don't stuff forget, they have O'Neill, right, and
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  Speaker 2: then Kobe Mayo wherever he figures out to play. You
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  Speaker 2: got her Stead, You got a lot of guys Mountcastle,
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  Speaker 2: whatever they're gonna do with him, I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of guys Westburg, wherever he ends up. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys for a lot of spots,
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  Speaker 2: and Tyler and O'Neill's got to be one of your
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, Taylor Ward's got to be one of
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  Speaker 2: your guys that plays all the time. Then you probably
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: lose DH to Basayo our first base when Adley and
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  Speaker 2: him are gonna go back and forth catching DH first basey.
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  Speaker 2: So he just got crowded really fast. But the Orioles
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  Speaker 2: need pitching, Like I'd be like, this guy's on a
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  Speaker 2: minimum contract and the things the upside is too good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not costing you much right now. Kratz. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Ward nice player. I would say, top five streakiest
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  Speaker 1: players in the big league. So when he's hot, he's
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: sizzling hot. To me, it's almost like Justin Upton status,
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  Speaker 1: like a diet version of that back when he played.
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  Speaker 1: He'd get all his numbers in like a month or
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  Speaker 1: two's time. Because Taylor Ward can blow up in April
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  Speaker 1: and then fall apart in May and June, so there
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  Speaker 1: will be some ups and down set that's part of
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  Speaker 1: his game. That's fine. I just am looking at Baltimore like,
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  Speaker 1: can we get rid of a a ball prospect for
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  Speaker 1: a move like this? I think you need ten twelve
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  Speaker 1: pitchers as part of your forty man that you feel
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  Speaker 1: comfortable starting games for you. And Grayson Rodriguez has the
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  Speaker 1: one two three upside potential. They must have looked at
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  Speaker 1: the medicals and the Baltimore Orioles team. Doctors have been
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  Speaker 1: known to flunk free agents and said, ah, we should
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  Speaker 1: quit on him. Here's the problem. Kratz they're often wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's the other problem. You can you can
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: say I'm a little scared about free agents. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: little scared about you know, a thirty year old guy
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  Speaker 3: signing him to a four year, five year contract. They
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  Speaker 3: just flunked Jeff Hoffman. This is not that. This is
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: a guy who, yeah, he hasn't pitched in a year,
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  Speaker 3: I mean since August of twenty three, No, August of
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  Speaker 3: twenty four, Like you missed a over a year of time.
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  Speaker 3: I get that. But this isn't a free agent. This
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  Speaker 3: is a young pitcher who, let's say even has another
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  Speaker 3: year of injuries. You would never want that, and you're
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  Speaker 3: like you would you wouldn't think a guy would continually
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  Speaker 3: get hurt, but it happens. He's a one year arbitration
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  Speaker 3: every year for the next four years, and you still
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  Speaker 3: have that. This isn't This isn't like failing a free agent.
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  Speaker 3: So if they use the same idea, I think I
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: think this is a miss. I think this is a
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  Speaker 3: miss because you can't get this is great for the Angels,
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  Speaker 3: but you can't give up young starting pitching that has potential,
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  Speaker 3: give up some of your minor league.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: Rogers did an amazing job. You know, Tyler Wells came
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  Speaker 3: back and was awesome. Bradish was awesome. Like, it's okay
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: to have extra, It's okay to have six to seven
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  Speaker 3: starters that are gonna be in your in your in
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: your rotation for the season because they're not all going
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: to stay healthy.
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  Speaker 2: This just doesn't make sense to me.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, it's it's not the fact.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: Like, look, if you want to trade Grayson Rodriguez and
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  Speaker 2: you feel like you may maybe he might not pitch again,
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: he might never stay healthy, but you would think you'd
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: want to get something controllable back. But Taylor Ward's got
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: one year and then he's a free agent. This is
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: Corvin Burns all over again. Right. But again, the Oriols
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: are supposed to have all these prospects position player wise,
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: So why are they trading one of their areas of
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: need a pitcher, especially a starting pitcher, for a guy
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  Speaker 2: that when they're supposed to have all these surefire prospects
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: that they wouldn't trade for years.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: The development process to me, has been strange krats At times,
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  Speaker 1: there's not an opening for some of those players that
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: have been highly touted, and then they often have them
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: playing a billion different positions in the minor leagues, which
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: was part of what Jason Lackepora mentioned the other day
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: on the Orioles to Do list segment that we did,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: and there were mixed reviews on that segment, but I
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: will say Jason was pretty spot on with just about
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: everything he said regarding the Orioles this year. Are we
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: hard on them?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: Why because they tanked for half a decade and then
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: didn't get enough out of it. So I think you
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: should be hard on your ball club if you went
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: through that kind of pain. One funny comment after the
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: tweet was posted last night about the trade from a
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  Speaker 1: fan said, anytime you're a team in need of a
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: controllable young starter, you move one of the few you
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: have to acquire a sixteenth thoutfielder. That's a little harsh,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: but here's thirty. You gotta make that deal.
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  Speaker 2: But here's here's the here's their here's their outfielders. Dylan
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: Beavers first round pick for him, high prospect, Colton Kowser,
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: who we've talked about for years, Tyler O'Neill who they
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: signed to a big deal, Leoti Taveres okay backup, and
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: then Jeremiah Jackson wherever he is. Yeah, which one of
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: those guys? The center fielder Colton Cawser, I guess gonna
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: play center for you?
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: Marique Bradfield when he comes up at some point.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, so then why do you trade for for Taylor Ward?
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Explain to playing the corner you atoon, but to.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: With who platoon. You're not trading for Taylor Ward if
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: he's platooning. I'm sorry.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: I think there's a world where a lot of his
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: AB's are coming against left handed pitching.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: No, okay, there's not that. I mean, no offense, there's
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: not that many. That's fours.
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  Speaker 1: I mean his numbers were not great against righty and.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: You're gonna pay thirteen point seven million, which he's projected
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: in arbitration flor a platoon guy. Then this trade just
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: got even worse.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Let me explain what Michael Liyas likes to do. He
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: wants to build more of what you saw from far
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Anxiety in the Dodgers world ten years ago. It's platoons,
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: it's everyone can play just about everywhere network out not well,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just explaining what they're doing. I don't I don't
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: agree with what they've been doing. Last year. I destroyed
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: their moves, destroyed them, took a lot of crap for it.
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  Speaker 1: They spent money. This has nothing to do with money
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  Speaker 1: spending right now, let's shove that aside. Should they be
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: going after premieer guys, did you think that was going
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: to happen? Yes, but that's not realistic right now? Right
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: this kind of move, krat tells you they're not in
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: their running for Kyle Tucker. But with what they are doing,
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: I disagree. I just disagree. They think they got to
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: hear right, you did the tank, the rebuild, You got
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: good talent. Putting that last part together is the most
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: difficult thing to do in baseball, and it's what makes
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: someone like Dave Dombrowski so successful and put his titles together, right,
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Alex Anthopolis and others who go for it and know
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: how to put the finishing touches on. I think they're
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: lacking there.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: We're I mean, we can talk about Michael Lias's moves
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: last year in the outfield this year. We can talk
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: about that all offseason. Today's the trade. So what are
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: they getting from Taylor Ward? You cannot platoon if you
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: are platooning him. What AJ said, thirteen point seven million
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  Speaker 3: is what he's projected to make. An arbitration, like you're
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: not paying any You're not even paying the most elite
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: platoon advantage guy that money. I mean, he had five
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine at bats last year. He was
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: an everyday player, thirty six homers, one hundred and four stakes.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: You are, that's all you're getting because the defense is
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: not great, the base running is well below average, and
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: you can't, like you need to get full value from this.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think this is where there's value for
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: this team unless they're sitting there going, I know, we
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: gave Tyler O'Neil forty nine million, forty nine and a
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: half million dollars. We need to make sure we have
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: somebody in case he goes down when he's you know,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: when he takes his time off. Like I don't understand.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I don't understand this at all. But you cannot play
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: him at a three point fifty to four hundred that
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: back clip, because then you lose everything. You lose his
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: counting stats, his home runs and RBIs is what he's
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: going to bring to this team.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's not enough lefties. If you're just gonna
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: platoona that's that's that's an awful thing. But I just
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: because I don't normally look at I mean I do
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: look at rosters and we talk about. But so I
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: looked at the Orioles depth chart. You know, their roster
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: basically for their starting guys. Have you guys ever seen
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Samuel Basaillo in person? Yester? No, okay, you know what
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: he's listed as on their on their roster. I know
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: they don't say outfielder. No, no, no. He's listed as catcher
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: behind athlete and DH behind Mountcastle. But do you know
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about his weight? You know what his height
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: and weight is listed at.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I know he's like six'. Five what what do they, have.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Mane he hasn't seen what eighty in a long. Time i'm.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Sorry that's like them Saying Salve perez is one eighty,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Right LIKE i, MEAN i weigh way more than one, eighty.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Right And i've stood next To basayo and he is
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: bigger THAN i. Am he is. Fooled he is Salvad.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Operez the one TIME i saw, him the one TIME
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: i saw, him He's Salvado. Press Now Salvi's salvi's much.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Bigger now he's lifted a lot more, legs and But
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: salvi's SAL i was gonna, say there's no Way basio's
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: under two fifty and there's no way he's less than,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: me monstrous young.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Man, okay so one more thing in The oils THAN
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: i want to finish with The. Angels now on The baltimore,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: SIDE i, mean the lineup's pretty much. Set they're not
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: trading most of these. Guys they're young under team, control,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Right jacksonaaldy at, Second Jordan westberg at, Third gunner at.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Short you would Think mayo at. First, outfield we went
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: over plenty, Already adlee a, catcher And pasio mixing in there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: TOO i, mean the lineup's pretty much.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Set but that's why the Tailor ward doesn't make. Sense,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: YEAH i want they had to give up because BECAUSE
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: i look at it like this, again who's gonna play center?
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Field Leotis taveras are they, signed so they're not gonna
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: go out and get someone. Else can you Run Colton
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: cowser out? There no for center field every? Day so
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: then he's got to go to a, corner, right and
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: then that takes it bats away from somebody else because
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you have O'Neill who's signed to a long term, deal
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and now you Have Taylor ward who's got to play,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: right and then you gotta Put cowser, somewhere and you
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: gotta Have pasio. Somewhere you gotta Have mountcastle. Somewhere so
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: there's got to be something else coming down the, pipe
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you would. Think so there's got to be a trade
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: coming somewhere down the down that we haven't heard about.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yet that's coming That michael ISAs is gonna have to
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: clear clear up some. Space but you want to talk
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: about The. Angels this is absolutely. Wonderful if you're The,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: angels you get a controllable starting pitcher who has a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: huge upside for league minimum for four, years and you
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: clear thirteen point seven off your books off a Guy
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: kinnor M kratz said that can he can, hit but
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: everything else is not. Great he's a good, player but
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: he's not you, know he's not a great. Player where you're,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: like this is a franchise changing.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Guy, no he was gone after this year anything, so but.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: You get a guy you can control for four years.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Control this is a great deal for The.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Angels they've been looking for guys like, this.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: They've been looking for people to take deals like, this
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: and The orioles are, like pick.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Us, YEAH i love, It, KRATS i love the. Risk
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: is there a chance That grayson just can't get his
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: arm figured out long. Term sure there's a, chance but
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: how often have we seen it where a guy goes
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: through some injury issues early in his. Career grayson's twenty,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: six and then he takes off the? Stuff is there with?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Upside in my? Mind, right we haven't seen all of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the potential tapped. In let's not Forget i'll use an.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Example Trek skool went through quite a few injuries early
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: in his. Career tell Me, jones he didn't blossom in five.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Minutes just throwing that out, there not saying they're the same,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: picture But i'm saying there's significant upside. Here AND i
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: thought it was a steal of a deal to take
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: on a lottery ticket like that THAT i think has
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: a good chance of becoming something.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: SPECIAL i want to know other teams that were, like,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: wait why couldn't we have gotten in? There like like
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: the thing about The phillies going up north if they
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: want an. Outfielder Nick costiani's, like, hey we'll pay down
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: everything to thirteen point. Seven you're gonna Have Nick costianis
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: For Grayson. Rodriguez, LIKE i don't see any team that
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: says MAN i don't want a controllable starter for four
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: years with some. Risk every picture has. Risk at two
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: years of, service two years into your big league, career
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: everybody has. Risk you have no idea who's gonna stay
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: healthy and who's not unless there's something catastrophically wrong in.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: THERE i have a hard time believing this doesn't work
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: out really well for The.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Angels i'm with, you and we're gonna talk To Grayson
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: rodriguez On Friday.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: FRIDAY i believe it is possibly if The powers getting.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: A live update on when he might join. Us, okay
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe friday For Grayson rodriguez to talk about this. Deal
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and for, me this is a precursor to An orioles
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: off season That i'm going to feel a little wishy washy.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: About they have to remake their entire, bullpen AND i
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: don't trust that they're going to get an, ace which
• 20:26
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• 21:33
  Speaker 1: i'll read a few things comment. Wise you have some
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: saying no way he's going to hit that home. Run
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: total In, baltimore Like jamin pointing out the one thousand
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: foot left field wall that's moved. Back it's a little.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Different they've changed it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Now uh. Huh still not easy though that it's still
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: pretty far back. There let's see how. Things kasar is
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: going to be, moved along With, malcastle who might be
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: non tendered by the way On. Friday maybe thinks That
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: mayo gets. Moved that's a lot of. MOVES i don't
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: think all of those guys get. Moved maybe one of.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Them you have some thinking that The oils know more
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: About grace And i'm, like, yes and no medicals get shared.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Again baltimore is very strict on that. Part, Maybe and,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: yes he hasn't had full On Tommy john surgery. YET
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: i understand that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Even if he misses next, year even if he misses
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: this season because he Gets Tommy john, surgery you still have.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Him he's still controllable after.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: That And.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Arty, moreno never wants to get four years into a
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: into a free agent. Pitcher SO. C. J wilson killed
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: him for that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: One SO i DON'T i don't get.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It, Yeah So i'm mentioning maybe they would Give ward
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a qualifying offer that's really looking ahead and take. It, yeah,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: yeah take. It you're about to get into. That but
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you can't just hand those out like you used. To
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: players are fighting.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Back it's twenty two. Million it's almost twice of what he's. Making.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Now this is a, perfect perfect topic here shaking it
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: up the player's, side the agency side, saying, OH i
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: see you qualifying. OFFER i understand the point of the qualifying,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: offer AND i am going to accept. It we saw
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: four acceptances nine no's pretty obvious nose skuys Like Kyle.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Tucker But Brandon Woodriff Showta, Inmanaga Trent, grisham And glaber
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Torres all said yes to a one year contract for
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: about twenty two million. Dollars so they are locked in and.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Signed they won't have those qualifying offers attached to them
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: after this. Season and in the past there have been
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four qualifying offers extended depending free,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: agents only fourteen. Acceptances so this was a. Lot AND
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: i want to start the conversation by saying That i've
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: spoken a multiple agent and they think it absolutely destroys
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: mid level free agents like this in free. Agency so
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that is why you're getting more of these yes is,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: quote bite the bullet for twenty two million. DOLLARS i
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: think most people will take, that and then you can
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: have a proven year and then not have that attached
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to you because it really burns free. Agents look At
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Nick pavetta last.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Year, Yeah, Martinez Nick martinez one.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Year, well and he Took he took it because he was.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Smart musten this is WHAT i. Said we talked about.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It at one point we were, LIKE i don't know
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: if anybody's going to take. This and then as the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: more we talked about, it all these names were kind
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of names Yesterday Cody Cody stavenhagen's Like Labor torres might take.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: It we were, like wait what because you would think
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: he'd be able to get a two or three or
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: four year deal left because he had a good. Year
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and Then shoto was one because he gets one year
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: twenty two, million, right and then we're, like Wholl Trent,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: grisham you know he's had one good year because the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: two or three years before that weren't very. Good so
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the all four of these guys make sense taking these qualifying.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Offers it's just a lot to see them all. Take
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: and Then Big wu, obviously because you know he's coming
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: off injury and they're, like he's, like, WAIT i can
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: go back To milwaukee WHERE i get twenty two. Million uh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: yeah sign me.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Up, yeah because that can be first of, all and.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Then you can use this to bounce and then you
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: can't get. One you can't get.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: One So woodriff had a nice fuller season looking like
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: he did for a flash of twenty twenty. Five, yeah
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid and he's not going to have
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to deal with that. Attachment it is a real problem
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in free. Agency it is used heavily against the. Players
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: draft picks are highly. Coveted it's a. Pain same For Labor.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Torres Labor torres is not even twenty nine, yet turning
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: twenty nine next. Month so if he goes out and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: has another solid year like he just, did then he
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: can get his multi year.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Contract, obviously if this is a lot of, ifs you,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: know if the guy it all depends on if the
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: guy goes out and get has a great, year which
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: every player plans on. Doing but one THING i think
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: is kind of funny about all these guys what they
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: were projected to get in free. Agency they were all
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: in that forty to fifty million dollar, range and that
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: that competitive draft, pick that draft pick that's that's locked
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: to them really demeans their. Value and each of these
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: guys showed a big. Woo they're thirty, two they'll be
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: thirty three when the hit free. Agency even if they
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: get a two year contract after this, season and they
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: would have gotten a three year this. Offseason but if
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: they get a two year contract after this, season all
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: they have to do is make thirty million dollars and
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: they're already passing what they're projected was for this. Season
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: SO i Think glab's the one that really surprised me,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: here but they were all right in.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: That Trent.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Grisham Trent grisham's like multiplying what he the most he's
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: ever made by almost three times as much as he
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: ever he's ever made in a. Season so to, me
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: it's a no brainer if he was only going to
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: get a four year deal now after this he'll be
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: thirty after this. Season he can still get a four
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: year deal and he's already got essentially twenty two million
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: dollars that he made for this. Season that you can, say,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: okay now you don't what would it have been. That
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: he made way. More so it's always better to go
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: year to, year and teams love year to, year so
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: we got to keep pushing this qualifying, up qualifying offer
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: up more and.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: More The Trent grisham one was the biggest shock to
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: me when it was handed.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Out, YEAH i was surprised they would they gave. IT
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: i was.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Shocked he doubled his home run. Total it's been a
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: nice player as more of a fourth outfield, option and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: he blew up this past. Season but then the league
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: started adjusting to his adjustments as the year went, on
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and his defense is not like it used to. Be
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: so nice, player twenty two million dollar player not in my,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: mind do The yankees? Care, actually, yes nowadays they do.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Care that might be a that actually if IT'S i
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: don't know where they said luxury tax, wise but it
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: could be a twenty two or thirty or forty million dollar,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: player right because it's depending on where they land in
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: a luxury. Tax so, YEAH i think they do. CARE
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: i think. THEY i don't know that The cubs were
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: surprised at Him. ANAGA i don't know The brewers were,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: tries BUT i think The yankees maybe we're a little
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: surprised That christiaan picked this. Up, well maybe The tigers
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: were a little Surprised glaber picked this. Up but the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: teams also look at it like this and, say we're
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: gonna lock the players out one year. Deal they're off
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the books and we can start. Over and then if
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: we have a salary, camp which they all, WANT i
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: mean the cap team and the owner's team they all.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Want we all know they want a salary. Cap so
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: they're going to, say, well that's twenty two million off
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: our books and we can they can walk and try
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to find somewhere.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: ELSE i actually look at it on the other, end,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: right If I'm Tran, Grisham i'm going to get punished
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: for the qualifying. Offer my defense is not like it
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: used to. BE i could be looked at as a.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: FLUKE i could be looked at as the league adjusting
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: to you know what he, did, RIGHT i was looking
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: hands further. Away then league adjusts a lot of breaking
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: pitches that he wasn't hitting later in the. Year so
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that's all going to be used against you when you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: don't have a solid track. Record, right he wasn't going
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to get twenty two million dollars on an average annual
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: value on them year contract, like no, Way, Okay so
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: let's say he signed a three year. Contract if you
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: really believe that there's going to be significant lockout time,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: missed you're already knocking out one of those. Seasons so
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: now it's really a two year, contract, Right and how
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: much is your average annual value versus just being, like
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: damn not a twenty two million dollar. Player But i'll
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: take that for a. Year see what happens after, that
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: because this year you're playing the full, season, right we
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: don't have lockout concerns until the year after. That so,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: yeah for, Me, KRATZ i WAS i was shocked that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: that was given out by The, yanks also due to
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the fact THAT i think they still want to try
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and go after A. Bellinger Kyle tucker starts to crowd
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: up the outfield a little. Bit you've Got Jason. Dominguez
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: If Spencer, jones you, know breaks out or continues to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: break out and is the real deal in the major,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: leagues you're going to run out of. Spots John carlo
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is still there for YOUR dh, position WHICH i think
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: clogs things up as good as he. Is. Right If
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: judge goes through an. Issue it gets complicated for The.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yankees they dealt with that last.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Year how much of these numbers were where he was
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: hitting in the lineup in front of THE Mvp Aaron.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Judge how much of this spike was that like good,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: pool left handed, hitter able to get, like you know,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: what he's always been somebody that controls the strike zone very.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Well now it's, like, hey you control the strike, zone
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: take your shot because they're gonna give you middle, middle
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: because they are not going to walk you on purpose
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: to pitch to. Judge so to, me took advantage of.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: That his defensive, metrics defensive front saved outs above average
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: are all in the. Negatives this year he stole three,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: bases WHICH i get. It you're you, know you're hitting
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: in front of your own, base in front of. Judge,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: hey he can hit you in from where you're at first,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: base so you stay. Still but LIKE i was surprised
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: they handed it out to, him less surprised that he accepted.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: It officially Official this From Laura, albanize who covers The.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Mets they Cut frankie on top designated for As simon.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Waver and Having Tommy. John, yeah some type of.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Surgery that's bouncing him. Out, YEAH i think IT'S tj
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: for the rest of for the entire twenty twenty, sixties.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Listen we. LISTENED i don't Know Frankie montoss at. All
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: praps might know. HIM i don't know, him but we
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: said when The red signed, him wasn't The red who
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: signed him last year The. Reds The red signed him
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: for like fifteen million whatever it, was and he hadn't
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: pitched in almost two. Years i'm, like that's crazy, money
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: right for a guy got your pitch to The brewers
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: and he got traded To. Berwise he did, okay but
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: he never really did. Great and then The mets sent
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: him to a two year like thirty six million dollar
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: deal and then thirty FOUR i, think, well, Whatever, jack
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: thirty something, million thirty four whatever it. Was but he
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: got hurt and he and then when he did, pitch
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: he was, awful and then all of a, sudden he's hurt,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Again LIKE i. Didn't you would Think David sertz would
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: have looked at this and, said, Wow, AGAIN i don't
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Know Frankie. MONTAS i can't judge when people get, hurt
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: but if you just go off his Performance this should
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: have been a one year, deal one year, deal one year.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Deal The mets got him for two, years and now
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: they're paying him for two.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Years that was the most shocking signing last year in
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: terms of how much money was given out to a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: player with that track. Record it's not like he's been
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: in the league for five. Minutes that was. Insane two,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: years thirty four million dollars and he could opt out
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: after year one if he performed. Well nine appearances thirty eight,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: innings six to eighty sixty THREE era. Plus it's not
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: big League calimber. Production he had some injuries mixed in damaged.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Goods just telling it like it. Is it has nothing
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to do with the. PERSONALITY i don't. Care you just
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: don't buy an asset like that on the free agent.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Market this was the major mistake that The mets. Made
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: David stearns is what did you say the other? Day
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: one of you guys said it like playing in.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: He's going to the deep. End, yeah he's playing in
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the kiddie pool still because he thinks he's still In.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee you're in The mets, now you can go in
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the deepend and get the big. Boys you can get
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the adults now like the things he had to. Do
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and this is what we had this conversation yesterday when
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: we were talking ABOUT i forget what team we, WERE
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: i don't know if maybe The tigers or. Somebody and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: we were, like, oh they're trying to win on the.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Margins like, no like everybody tries to get into the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: margins and win on the. Margins how about we just
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: try to win with the best, Players like why are
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: we always EVERY gm tries to out smart and be, like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: oh look how SMART i am BECAUSE i got this
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: guy AND i saved this money instead of being, like
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you know, What i'm gonna go get the best players
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and put them on my team because we can have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the best. Team, yeah that's what he.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Said that's what he.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Said that's what he. Said that's what he.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Said All, right there's a lot going on with The Pittsburgh,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: pirates perfect timing for A pirates dedicated, show, which by the,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: way is Called Bucco. Territory it's brand, new it's, great
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it's part of THE Ft. Network but, anyway, yeah you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: have two things at play, here and we're going to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: cover both of. Them one is an offer reported To
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Josh naylor that did not get the job, done but
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: looked substantial if you believe. It the other portion is
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: is that little article that popped up there with an
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: anonymous teammate Of Paul skiing saying how much he can't
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: wait to be A. Yankee so let's start there because
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: they're both tied to each other since some of the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: other reports that the pirates are trying to really build
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Around paul skins like they're, changed, right like being in
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that relationship where they keep Saying i've, changed they claim
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to be. Changed so first, off let's get. Schemes talking
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: To Dan patrick on his.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Ship, YEAH i MEAN i was frustrated for a couple
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: hours and then and then you, know kind of got
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: over it and talked to the media later that. Night you,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: know it is what it. Is there's stuff that's going
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: to come, out you, know good and. Bad it's you,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: know obviously it's it's not. TRUE i think the hardest
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: part of leading Air force for me, was you, know
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: we had just won a conference, championship the first one
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: in the school's, history and you know didn't and we've
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: been out that and it felt like there was, unfinished you,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: know work that needed to be. Done so that's how
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: it feels right. Now we're you, KNOW i won the
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: we won the national championship or the conference championship at Air.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Force that's that's what is on the horizon for.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Us we just have to do.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: It and leaving before, that would you, know leave a
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: bad taste in my mouth because there wasn't you, know
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: there was work to be done that we didn't.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Do what do you think of the.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Answer there's one major difference Air force versus The. Pirates
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: The pirates are playing in the major. Leagues Air forces
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: is a great school and a GREAT i love THE
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: i love the, military AND i love all, that but
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: they're not playing in the major. Leagues the best players
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: are the. Best they're in the. Conference and, listen congratulations
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Of paul's, Schemes but he went TO lsu to get
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: paid and to win a national, championship which he did
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: right With Dylan cruz and that whole. Crew, now guess
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: what you're with The. Pirates they're not winning anytime. Soon
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: don't say they're. Trying oh we tried On, joshie Because
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Ben verlander reported it, right, like, Oh Ben verlonard who
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: works for The Major Leagues baseball tried to report. It it, like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: okay so, cool but they were like fifteen million dollars
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: off from Nail or guess. What he was in a
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: place he liked their better. Team they have a chance to.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Compete he's not going To. Pittsburgh you have to, overpay thank.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: You you have to overpay to get people to come
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: To pittsburgh because they don't believe. It they think you're
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: full of. Crap and so then guess. What eventually he's
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: gonna happen to him and he can, Say i'm gona
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: feel like something's unfinished In. Pittsburgh that's, cool finding, Dandy
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: but at the end of the, day they're gonna trade
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you because they can get four or five pieces back
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: and it's not gonna matter you SAY i want to.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: STAY i want to stay unless you're Buyron bucks and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: have a full note trade sign an. Extension you ain't, Staying.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Paul And i'm Sorry pirates fans BECAUSE i think you
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: guys deserve, Better but you ain't staying because they're gonna
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: ship you.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Out are we about to play a game this offseason
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: where The pirates make the s offers to players that
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: falls show with turk.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: School Ball ark school. Ball they're talking about Trading Terrek
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Scooball Paul, Skans terrek school the two of the best,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: three two of the if not the two best pitchers
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: in the world right now in baseball right both one
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Saw young's both talking about being. Traded why why EVERYTHING
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: i see in baseball is doing? Great attendance is of,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: viewerships of revenues. Up but every team is losing. Money
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: explain that to, Me, scott BECAUSE i can't figure it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Out, well The pirates are making. Money that's the.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Fact every team is making. Money if they weren't Making
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: these are all. Businessmen every owner is a, businessman business, person, women,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: man whatever they. Are whoever owns the, teams you're business, people.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Okay these business people know how to make. Money if
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you're not making, money you sell the team because you know.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: What you can make your money that, way and you
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: say it's someone else's. Problem, otherwise if You're Bob, nutting
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: if you're the With Dick momford And, colorado if you're
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: not making, money you sell the team and you take
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: your franchise value that you made all this money on
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and you take, it you cash it, in you put
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: that into something. Else to try to make. Money, yeah
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: so don't give me the we're losing money and we
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: can't afford these players because you.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Can't times are. Hard but In skeens, CASE i think
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: we have a different topic, Here. Kratz it's not about signing.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Schemes it's About skiens actually wanting to stay. There right,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: now if You're Paul, skins there aren't many numbers that
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you're saying yes to if you want to look over
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: TO i, MEAN i know he's a different Position Mike
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: trout and, Say, OKAY i might be one of the
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: best pitchers of this, generation, right but AM i about
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to sign with a team That i'll never really get
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: much success.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: With, no you're. Not and they're not going to make
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: enough of an. Offer they're not going to make enough
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: of an offer that would give. Them they're just there's to,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: me there's no number that's going to come. Close and
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: we might even hear we might even hear a. Number
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: oh you, know The pirates Offered Paul skeens this or
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: that like to, me until The pirates make an offer
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: that is even equal to what somebody would get somewhere,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: else it's not even a blip on my, radar like
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: The rays started doing that for. Years they were making
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: offers that were equal to what guys we're going to
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: get at other. Places AND i wouldn't have believed it
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: HAD i not heard it from the people that signed
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: at other, places teammates of, mine and so, like, hey
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: you know, what they were definitely. Trying it didn't, happen you,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: know but to be fifteen million under and then to
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: have a have a superstar In Paul, skens you, know
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: not being able to say definitively that he can he
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: can stay In pittsburgh for the rest of his career
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: is a disservice to The pittsburgh fans and to his.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Career so, Yeah Jeff passing in His notes column reporting that,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: yeah they were willing to Sign naylor for more than
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: twice the franchise previous record free agent, deal which currently
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: stands at thirty nine million dollars Before naylor said, yeah no,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: thanks you're the pirates And i'm ad libbing now on this.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Part you're the pirates and you didn't pay as much
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: As seattle. Would the other part that Pass and ads
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: in his column Is pittsburgh is known to have interest
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: In please hold your, Laughs please hold your, Laps Kyle.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Schwarber you Think Kyle schwarber is going to sign with
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: The pirates to finish up his.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Career, okay you want to you want to Sign Kyle,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: schwarber you better sign about three or four other dudes
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: first before you get To Kyle, schwarber because he's not
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: he's looking to.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Win he's not signing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: There if they if they went out and Signed, TUCKER
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: i don't know who the hell, else whoever else is
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a free. AGENT i don't know name the best free
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: agents they. Named they signed the best for a free.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Agency you pay them with schemes and some of the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: other pieces they have.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Plans Huh tucker and Then schwarber they.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Boom now now you're talking about a team that might
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: be able to do Some. Stein i'm in because he's
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: not signing. There by the, way, SORRY i had to
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: get Out. Corey his phone, died so he's calling back
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: out of.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Course but you gotta be kidding. Me Kyle schwarber is
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: going to sign with The. Pirates how much money would
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: it Take Kyle schwarber to be offered from The pirates
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: over anyone else's offer for him to sign. THEM i
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: don't know if they here's a. Number he's super, rich he,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: wants he likes to. Win he also.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Finished BUT i, mean if someone offers him four, years
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty and The pirates come and say
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: five years two, fifty.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Fine there's your, number one hundred million, DOLLARS.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I probably do that. One. OKAY i, mean it ain't gonna,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Happen But i'm just Saying.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Kyle would probably, say, hey can we use that to
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: spend money on anybody? Else? Ever, true it's just such
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a joke to think that he would actually consider that
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: franchise right now with the way that they've treated their
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: team and free. Agency tell Me i'm, Wrong please tell
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Me i'm wrong That Kyle schwarver is going to get
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: an offer From pittsburgh that's similar to another offer and, say,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: yep going.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: THERE i can't the baseball fan of, me the heart
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: of hearts knowing Different pirate fans they want, That, yes
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: they want. It and it's like people are gonna, say,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: well what about the Like Jason worth with The, Nationals
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: like he signed. There Jason worth got offered FIFTY i.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Think it was fifty.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Two million more than the next highest offer that he, received,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: like we're not we're not talking about it's not the.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Same it's not apples to, Apples like The pirates won't
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: go to Where Kyle schwarber even will Get AND i
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: HOPE i get to eat all my words That i'm saying.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: HERE i hope we get to play this all back
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: And pirate fans can laugh at us and look at us.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Now because they do have a rotation with some. Offense
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: could be a great.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Team DO i believe.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: THAT i want The pirates to be good BECAUSE i
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: want all the teams to, try AND i want fans
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to be rewarded for their. Loyalty and there are some
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Awesome pittsburgh. Fans, yeah it's one of the best. Ballparks
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: it's one of the coolest stadiums you could ever go,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: to and there are some die Hard it's the same As, oakland,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Right like for a Year's oakland people were, like, oh
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: there's no. Fans, well there was like about ten to
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: twelve Thousand oakland fans that were at every game and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: they were. UNBELIEVABLE i mean they were loud as hell
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and there was like none of them. THERE i mean
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: there was like ten thousand people there and it was
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: loud as. Well the same In. Pittsburgh there's like your
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: base and they should be rewarded for.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: It look at The.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Steelers The steelers are packed all the, time right because
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: they try and win every.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Year it's not about That pittsburgh has a great fan.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Base they have a great, ballpark.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: But it's about the fact THAT i feel sorry for
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the fact that they haven't had a winning team in
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: a long. Time.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah and you, know even in this report, too from
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: passing like they might Let Connor griffin win a. Spot
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: he's one of the top prospects in the, sport top
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: From Baseball america right. Now he's nineteen years. Old is
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: he the savior? YET i mean it's. Early it's awesome
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that they'll let him. Compete i'm all about, it, Right
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and they do have some exciting young, players AND i
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: do think they'll sign, someone but they'll probably end up
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: signing someone more in like the thirty something million forty fifty,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: right like something much more mid, range and, say, hey
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: we tried for the.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: They're gonna Sign they're gonna sign a couple of mid,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: yes mid free, agents, huh and, say, hey, look, guys
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: we're really, trying and we tried to play in the
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: big boy, pool but it didn't work. Out it's we
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: hear this from numerous teams at this.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: POINT i just don't think we can forget the track
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: record for a long period of. Time. Now they've had
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: other teams LIKE i don't know the one coming into this,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: season that's some pretty good looking, pitchers and they completely
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: neglected the free agent market to help the. Offense the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: offense was. TERRIBLE i got something for. You did you
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: see that The rays Cut Christopher? MORRELL i Mean Sabermetric
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: darling is he? Though no fun? Guy fun, Fun he's
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: fun when he's.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Fun when he was hitting, dingers.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: He's got too many holes in that, swing and that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Was what do you think The cubs got rid of?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Him they made a nice move, there, Right.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Christmer morrell looks like a fun, player but he strikes
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: out so. Much cratch, like he strikes out so. Much
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: he doesn't really have a. POSITION i guess they're left
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: field is kind of where he's. Settled but, yeah he'll
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: hit you some, dingers but are the two hundred strikeouts
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: he puts? Up he give him five hundred and six
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: hundred bats worth twenty five homers every year and bad.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Defense he hits the ball hard and then certain people
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: drool and they need to clean their spit. Up it's too.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Much it's enough That i'm just saying that pro file
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: of player right gets way too much. Hype it's, true
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: you know what krats we talked. About it's not an
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: old school new school. Thing you just you can't have
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that profile and holes in your swing like? That is
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: it unfair for me to say because some guys fix those? Holes?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Uh name one who fixed? Those who fixes those holes
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: when they're that?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Glaring?
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Like is he gonna drop twenty five punch? Outs like to,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: ME i would hope For Christopher morel he can look
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: at himself and, Go, Okay i've in, Dfate i've been
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: traded away from The cubs who are trying to. Win
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: what DO i need to? Change because he's uber, athletic
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: stupid bat? Speed, like what DO i need to?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Change we'll? SEE i, mean it's totally up to.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Him but the problem, IS i, mean exit velocity and
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: bat speed numbers that lead to expected numbers that are.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Just those aren't real though real lit those aren't. REAL
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: i get so annoyed with. That those aren't, real.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: But sometimes they're helpful to, Show, hey this player actually
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: has gone through an unlucky first couple months of the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: season or whatever it, Is, right.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: It's been a lucky first couple of years for.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Him i'm saying this doesn't apply for this type of.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Player oh that's my point is there's a TIME i always.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Like, LISTEN i understand where like guys are hitting the
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: ball hard and they're not getting, Hits like, yeah okay
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: for a couple of, weeks but this has been a while,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Now like everyone's, like this guy's got all the talent
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: in the. World but it goes back to krats what
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: we've talked about on here many. Times not everybody could
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: be a forty five home run. Guy not everybody's a
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: thirty to forty home run. Guy hit your fifteen to
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: twenty and get on base and steal if you're super
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: out like they're just because we've gotten to a point in,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: baseball which is the way it. Is it's what guys
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: get paid. For it's hitting, homers all.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Right we have two articles fresh up on The Roer
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: blog that we do for BET. Mgm one is on
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: how to construct the perfect pitcher via each pitch that
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: we like best in. Baseball we'll get to that later this,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: week but this one is which teams are most successful
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: with limited payrolls and no. Surprise this is looking over
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a period of time where a team like The rays pop.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Up most of the teams that pop up here with
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: the average dollars spent per win are basically the bottom
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: of the. Barrel it was a fun exercise but also
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a terrible exercise because most of these teams that had no, success, well.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: The guardians And. Raise everyone wants to be The. Raise
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: everyone wants to be The. Raise race haven't. Won they
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: haven't won A World series.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Yet WHEN i say, SUCCESS i mean the point is
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: A World series. Title most fan, Bases, yeah.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: It's cool that you make the. Playoffs But i'll tell you,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: what if you talk to a lot of people around the,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: league they will say that the teams are just happy
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: they make the. Playoffs, oh we got, In hey it
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: was we got. In we got, In not, hey we
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: didn't we won the World like The dodgers won The
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: World series last. Year that was a hell of a.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Year The yankees are the one team and they don't
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: win The World. Series that it's not a successful year
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: other than that team's, like oh we got. In, look
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: anything can happen once you get. In anything can happen
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: once you get.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: In many teams think that there's too much chance, risk
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: et cetera in the. PLAYOFFS i can't disagree. MORE i
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: feel like we look at certain teams And i'm, like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: yeah that looks like a playoff, team but they're not
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: going to do much. THERE i feel like we say
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: that every year of this show's. Existence, Right, oh they
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: really got to go for that big name. Starter sure
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: is it? Risky, yes going to be A corbyn burn
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: signing for The diamondbacks and then all of a sudden
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: he's hurt and you're not going to have him until
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: part of this coming. Season, Sure but at the same,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: time could he Be Google, yamamoto et cetera and win
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: you A World?
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Series at the end of this, Here Stu sternberg stole
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: sold the, race, right? Yep so all those all those
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: dollars per wins at the end of his time owning the, race,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: here does he wish he had A World series? Ring
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: if he can't say, Yes if you're an owner right
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: now and you just started owning the team and you
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: can't say yes to. That just sell just sell it
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: now because there are people that have the money that
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: also won the. Ring, like, yeah, great he saved a
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: lot of, money made a ton of money when he
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: sold the. Team had he invested some of that money
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: that he made and won a, SERIES i.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Bet he still would have made the same amount of.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Money that's.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: True he probably would have made more.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: If you would have made. More, yeah if you have
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: A World series, team you get a lot of bang
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: for the buck after the, facts, RIGHT i mean you
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: went over a very large generation of. Fans when you're
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: able to pull something like that, OFF i always get, told,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: well you, can't you, know go too far in debt
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: with a current team based on what they're going to
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: sell for in the. FUTURE i, mean you are able
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: to borrow. Money that's part of THE mlb, program LIKE i. Gave,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: hey The patres have not won A World. SERIES i
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: think they've tried damn hard to do it. Right it's
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: not always going to work. Out but don't you think
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a team like that has kind of done everything that
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: they could do during the last half? Decade? Awesome, yeah
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and how is it out there they're.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Doing fun to sell the. Team they're going to make
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Money they want to sell the team because they're not
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: as into, baseball and that. Happens this is the BEST
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: i wasn't on for that best thing that could happen
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: To padres. Fans you got to see who ends up
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: buying the. Team but when you get to the next,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: generation it's pretty rare that the next generation or the
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: brothers and sisters or, whatever right of the of those
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: who have passed like baseball as much as that person.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Does and if that's not the, case usually it's going
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to start to turn. Ugly that's just how it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Works As tigers Ask yankees because they complain about how
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: all the time, twins well, twins, yes but there's.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: There's tons of next. GENERATION i, mean it's rare that
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: your generation Take tiger's easy. One it's rare that the
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: next generation takes over and cares as. Much it's it's,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: true and that's, fine. Right it's like when.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: You know Parents jeff And David sampson, way.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Well they want a kid to they want their kid to,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: be you, know the next baseball owner or if they
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: want or if you're a, parent you want your kid
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: to be some, job and then the kid that goes
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: in a completely different direction out and is, That, OH
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: i want you to be a, doctor and then the
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: kids something To, yeah SO i think that's great news
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: for the.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: PADRES i, Mean kratz lives in with his. Kids like
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: my kid plays baseball in. College your kid plays baseball college.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: League BUT i was, like play, football play, golf play,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: basketball play, anything BECAUSE i don't WANT i know what it,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: is AND i want you to. Do and if they love, baseball,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: fine BUT i wasn't telling my kids you have to
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: play BASEBALLOP i.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Agree, uh that's because you guys, also like genetically are,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: gifted so that's getting passed. ON i don't think it
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: works like that when you just sit there and on a,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: team it's like we're Born.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Yankees most of those guys were born on third base
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: and think they.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Did a triple Exactly John fitcher's FAVORITE t. Shirt all, Right,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Krats AT's on the way out and May day on
• 51:49
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• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Gratyla they made a great. Trait they got a, Pitcher
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Mike trout back to the. Playoffs gray So riguez gonna
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: carry
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  Speaker 1: HIM i mean, not h m hm hm