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When Refs Steal The Spotlight · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta give us a shot, you know what you was no doubt, floor the sports sports, floor sports football.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's just another football Monday on a Monday.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: How about it?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: How about it?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: How about it, man?
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: Before we um get to the NFL, let's talk about Florida State, Miami.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, what a game.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Double overtime.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: 43-35 is your final down in Coral Gay Wolves as the Hurricanes.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: Pull off a thriller.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: But we're in a game that's Hey, we played hard, man.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, first off, that game deserved to be remembered by a play.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: Or somebody messing up a coaching decision.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Or a player making a pass for a two-point conversion like Miami's Malachi Tony.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Or a coach not taking the points in the first half, or a play that would have been made on the next two-point conversion have the refs not gotten the way of a great game.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: Because now the first thing I remember about it is the refs.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: And them calling a late bullshit hold that took away what was a great call and a great play by Danzi and to catch the ball.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then damn it, they backed him up again and they and they threw a Hail Mary on fourth and 31.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sorry, the tie goes to the receiver, and then just no, and then the worst rebooth, they let you in the boot, they don't even say the word simultaneous possession.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: So they're not even looking for both sides of it.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're supposed to be in what are we looking for here?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Not once did they say that.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: Anywho, it was a valiant effort, Florida State covered.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you're but I'm not in it for moral victories.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean you get that close, you feel like you should have stolen that game.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: But it it's more, you know, I I'm upset about not taking the points, but it I really hate when the officials get in the way of the game.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: Especially at the end.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: Let let Florida State lose it for themselves.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think, man?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think that if we're gonna lose, I would have much rather just gotten blown the fuck out.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_02: So it's the worst case scenario.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: He definitely probably saved his job.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_02: They're not firing him, man.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: They can't afford it.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: They're not spending that money.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's whatever.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then if you're like, so your point is if they're gonna give him a reason, at least win the damn game.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: And that's just too many times here in the last year or two, where it's just okay.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't get beat bad enough.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't win one score games.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_02: He gets in a lot of them and he loses every single one of them.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: Sweet.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: The defense fought hard.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: Did they?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: But it just outmanned.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, eventually Miami is just gonna run.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was gonna say they did they.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I'm sure they played their best, but I I wouldn't.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: Eventually they weren't gonna stop them.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: There, you're not gonna call one holding the whole game, and then you're gonna call that crap on the end.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: They were holding my Florida State guys all game.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh they called three holding penalties.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_02: One of one on the very first possession of the game for Florida State, one on the very last possession of the game for Florida State, and then one that was nullified because Darien Mensah was five yards past the line of scrimmage and threw the ball.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're gonna just let both sides play, then let both sides play.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, I mean, and it wasn't even a poll at all.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Wasn't even a questionable one.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's the one, I mean, that's just aggravating because that that was a good play.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Sets up to what could have been a dramatic, even it could have gone even further.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Florida State gets that two-pointer.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to third overtime.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think FSU's gonna stop them, so who knows?
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: How long can they keep it going?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, it it it obviously would have come down to somebody dropping up.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Another, you know, you you put all that out there and you don't get the win.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: It feels like they really deserved it.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's all they had.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: They really made plays.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Norvell called a pretty good game offensively as a play caller.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I still don't like his decision making as a head coach.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think he going for it both times.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: He's not taking the points ever.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's ridiculous.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then the play calls, you run the ball on fourth and two, and then fourth and three on like option reads or something.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's bad.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's really freaking bad.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's really bad.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: You better have a play that's gonna be a home run play if you're gonna run that crap.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then you don't learn from your mistakes.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: You did it last week, it flipped the game, you did it, it you did it once, and then you did it again, and you were in fourth and three, and with the worst play call.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's it yeah, it it it not only do you compound your mistakes, you get dumber with the calls that you make.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: That lost the game.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: I know people are gonna say, well, they got the ball back and they scored.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: You take the freaking points.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like it's fourth and one.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_01: If you could tush-push your way to it, fine.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: But this is a this is first of all, you don't you don't run the ball in those plays.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna get it on a run.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then it's just I it it was so bad because he called a pretty good game.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it it's not it's not gonna change.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: And part of that is because he has no faith in the defense of of keeping teams under 40 points.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: But it I think it would have been enough.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's nice to see Deuce show up.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: You feel like you could have exposed that more even than you did.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know at the end of the day, you couldn't stop him.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you've given up 160 points and four losses.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, at the end of the day, even though you had some fourth down stops, they were able to just dominate you on the ground, 257 yards rushing, five hundred and eighty-three yards total yards, and I mean And that that's in a game in where Miami made mistakes offensively.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Minsa was not he didn't complete his first 25 passes.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: You actually played, but then you just see it, there's not enough players, the the the the calls, the plays, it's just a matter of time.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: And then but you keep fighting and you just hate to see it taken away from you, which a game you know you could have stole.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean that's a that's a big win, though.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're uh for Miami.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because you saw everyone else was figuring out a way to lose.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of teams lost.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: None of it matters.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: None of them have their their playoff chances altered, except for Texas.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: But Texas sucks anyway.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: So they're yeah, Florida goes in and beats Texas.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: It really looked.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Florida State hung in there with uh the number one team in the country now.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: And but it does even though you do that, it doesn't bring me any optimism because No, there's no optimism, it feels like an upset bid.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: You're in and I'm not Florida State's not in that ballpark.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like, oh wow, they can maybe steal a win every now and then and scare somebody.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: They're not Miami was laughing the whole game, right?
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's like, oh wow, look at this, cute, nice.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, all right, we need we need points here.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: All right, don't tell me that I hate wow, you guys really did well, man.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa, blah, blah.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Get the hell out of here.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like, nah, man, he didn't do well.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: The offense made some plays.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Usaman Chroma, bad injury.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Really sad to see him out for the year.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, there goes a huge chunk of your offense.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, you get Wisner in and says finally he gets his chance to prove that he's worth it.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: He has some good runs, but then ball security gets the ball punched out by the DB, and that was the ball game.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because you have the ball in a tie game, and you're driving, you're running the ball on them, and you lose it, and they go down and score, and then you're chasing the rest of the game.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: You you tie it back up, and then you stop them, and it goes to overtime, but you're chasing the rest of the game.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: You had the chance to go down there and take the lead and win the game in regulation.
• 9:50
  unknown: Right.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: He fumbles the ball.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: But shitty teams don't do that.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, just to get it popped out like he did, it was just uh.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: He'll have his chance.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: They get a bye week, and then they have Clemson.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: This is what I talked about earlier.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: It just sucks in a game that you know I didn't think they would have a shot in, but this team, when you put them back in spoil, they play their best, but just not good enough to win.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: Same type effort against Alabama, same type effort here.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Not enough in the end, but some really bad calls that really you know, there's some desperation plays, but they did it twice.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of what you are as a team, you know, that you have it doesn't look pretty because you don't have good players.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: They play their best, it's gonna get even uglier.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: Go to double overtime and lose.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: You're talking about the two high points of the season are gonna be the loss to Miami and the loss to Alabama.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: Sweet.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: So Miami's number one now.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Notre Dame loses and another bad call at the end.
• 11:04
  unknown: Yeah.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Initiating is pretty bad.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: They're uh, you know, that it the Miami-Notre Dame game becomes crucial for Notre Dame.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um they lose that.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think they can lose that.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's why you couldn't have Miami losing.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's almost like we can't have Miami losing because they're gonna we're gonna have them lose in Notre Dame.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: They could still win the ACC championship.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: But they it Notre Dame doesn't have that luxury.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: It just man, that was made me sick to see.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: I just hate when it comes down to just terrible, terrible calls.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you got two completed hail bearings and you still lost.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, add it to the the the binder full of ways that we find to lose to Miami.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sweet.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm more upset that the dude's not getting fired.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's the ultimate takeaway.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: The only hope I had was waking up Sunday around noontime, hearing that they'd indeed made a change.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't give a shit about these next five games.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: No?
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: Who cares?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I want to beat Clemson, man.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you're not going to.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: If they don't beat Clemson, you fire them.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: You're not beating Clemson, dude.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have any running game anymore.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_02: Your only two running backs are out for the season.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: That was 70% of your your philosophy was just hand it to number 32.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: Let him pick up positive yards and stay ahead of the sticks.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: So you don't have that anymore.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you just don't have a defense either.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: No, you you you got the worst defense in the game.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: You actually scored in overtime.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: They just ran it right there in two plays and tied.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Ridiculous.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: So there you have it.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: There that is.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: In the NFL, my pain continues as the Giants lose and they bench James.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: JJ McCarthy comes in, rallies him for the late against the back.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: Rallies him to still lose.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Cares, man.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: They'll they'll, you know, you stick with them a few games, and then when it's apparent that he sucks and they'll go back to James.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: Team has quit.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_02: Their defense quit.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like it, you could see it.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: As soon as they fumbled that kickoff, they oh, dude, this season's toast.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the Texans aren't they're battling back.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: They get the big win in London.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: I told you guys.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: They have their number.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: They won like 10 out of the last 11 matchups.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: Cardinals beat the Rams.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: The Rams are two and four.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Get the hell out of here.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: You guys all pick the Rams.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: The Bills keep winning despite giving up 30 points.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: And Raiders covered.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: And the Bills, I mean, they've given up 30 points and one like all the games.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: Their defense is terrible.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter when you got Josh Allen who could.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Cowboys suck.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: The AFC East sucks because the Giants are still in first place.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: Eagles are done.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: Jalen Hurts out for the year.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe they'll go get Jameis.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: They're not gonna.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: Hate football.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, hoop season is right around the corner, man.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: Big exhibition this Saturday against LSU.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: We had to go.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: We play five of the top ten preseason teams this year in basketball.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: Including the number one by God, Florida Gators.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Looking forward to that.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: I like that he's coming out getting these young guys ready.
• 15:30
  unknown: Yeah.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because he believes in them and they're, you know, they might hit.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: He believes in them, they're all I got.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: So come on.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: Baby Shaq.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: Baby Shaq.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: Guy looks like a monster, dude.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: He's a big guy.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Big old guy.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Big, strong dude.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Seven feet tall.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Thick.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean that this ain't this ain't no pencil neck, man.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: Can't wait.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Can't wait.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be a long rest of the season.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Bye weeks coming at the right time.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: See if they can rally the troops and try to get to a bowl, you know.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: Cause you got Clemson, Boston College, Pitt, NC State, Florida.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Win three.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think your best chance at a win is Clemson.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta go three and two to make a bowl.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I I have a feeling it's gonna, I mean, Pitt's not the same team.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Not their quarterback.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're on the road, man.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: This team's not winning on the road.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Just not happening.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: Boston College is not a pushover.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: They play defense and they got a quarterback that can move around.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Boom.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Recipe to win.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Bill O'Brien against Tony White.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: Who are you taking in that one?
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: 40 points per loss.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: Niners play tonight.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Sweet.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: Great.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: Whee!
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: The NFC West doesn't look too tough anymore.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: After Seahawks lose.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: And the Rams lose.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: The Cardinals suck.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Niners have a chance.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: With a win tonight, they can really put some space in between them and the rest of the division.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll watch that.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: Other games going on.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Basketball right around the corner.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: A lot to get excited about.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: But not much here for football.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: We'll watch them.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll pick them forever.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Next time, right here on the North Florida Sports Network.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: We knew it was gonna be bad.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: There was no doubt.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta give us a shot, little one who