Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Shadow of the Student: The Lea Porter Case
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Imagine the wind howling through a high altitude mountain pass
- 0:05Speaker 1: in central Colorado. Oh, yeah. It's the kind of thin
- 0:08Speaker 1: air up there that, you know, it leaves a dull
- 0:11Speaker 1: burn in the back of your lungs if you aren't
- 0:12Speaker 1: totally acclimated to it.
- 0:14Speaker 2: It's a harsh environment.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Exactly. And out there on those dusty winding trails, which
- 0:18Speaker 1: are miles and miles away from the paved grid of Denver,
- 0:22Speaker 1: is a mother. Her name is Renee Jackson.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And she is trudging through the dirt and the scrub brush.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Her eyes are just scanning every single ravine, looking at
- 0:33Speaker 1: every patch of disturbed earth.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Doing the unthinkable, really.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Yeah, she is walking alongside trained search dogs, doing a
- 0:41Speaker 1: job that she feels the universe has just brutally forced
- 0:43Speaker 1: upon her. She is looking for her 19-year-old daughter.
- 0:46Speaker 2: It is, it's the absolute nightmare scenario for any parent.
- 0:50Speaker 2: I mean, when you visualize that scene, The sheer physical
- 0:53Speaker 2: exhaustion of a mountain search is daunting enough. Right. But
- 0:56Speaker 2: the psychological toll is what truly breaks a person down.
- 1:00Speaker 2: You're dealing with this ambiguous loss.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Ambiguous loss.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Yeah, because the human brain is a meaning-making machine, you know. Yeah.
- 1:08Speaker 2: It absolutely despises a vacuum of information.
- 1:11Speaker 1: It needs an answer.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Exactly. When a loved one vanishes without a trace, that
- 1:15Speaker 2: void becomes this crushing weight that most of us can
- 1:19Speaker 2: barely comprehend, let alone function under.
- 1:21Speaker 1: And the documents we are looking at today for this
- 1:23Speaker 1: deep dive, it's an investigative report from ABC News. They
- 1:27Speaker 1: chronicle exactly how a mother ended up on that mountain.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Yeah, the ABC News reporting is incredibly detailed.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Because you usually expect missing persons cases to unfold in, like,
- 1:38Speaker 1: sterile police precincts with detectives moving pushpins on a corkboard.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Right, very procedural.
- 1:43Speaker 1: But here, the investigation is happening on the worn-out boots
- 1:46Speaker 1: of a desperate mother who simply refuses to wait for
- 1:50Speaker 1: the bureaucratic wheels of the system to turn.
- 1:52Speaker 2: She took it into her own hands.
- 1:53Speaker 1: She totally did. So today, our mission on this deep
- 1:56Speaker 1: dive is to explore the tragic and profoundly twisted disappearance
- 2:00Speaker 1: of Lee Porter in June of 2014.
- 2:02Speaker 2: A really heavy case. It is.
- 2:05Speaker 1: It's a timeline that forces us to look at the
- 2:08Speaker 1: perilous intersection of extreme vulnerability— The dark chemical pull of
- 2:14Speaker 1: addiction and a predator who is just hiding in plain sight.
- 2:17Speaker 2: And hiding behind a very specific, deeply insidious mask, too.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
- 2:23Speaker 2: The sources we are working from, they provide this condensed
- 2:26Speaker 2: but intensely revealing look at the anatomy of an investigation.
- 2:31Speaker 2: We see all the false leads, the agonizing dead ends.
- 2:34Speaker 1: So many dead ends.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Right. And a truly shocking twist involving a suspect. who
- 2:40Speaker 2: quite literally attempted to use his formal college curriculum to
- 2:44Speaker 2: get away with murder.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. Because to understand how Leah Porter vanished,
- 2:48Speaker 1: we first have to understand the two very different worlds
- 2:50Speaker 1: she was trying to navigate at the exact same time.
- 2:52Speaker 2: The contrast is huge.
- 2:53Speaker 1: We have to start with where she came from. So
- 2:55Speaker 1: she grew up in a place called Cotopaxi, Colorado.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Tiny place.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Very tiny. When we talk about small towns, we usually
- 3:00Speaker 1: picture like a quaint main street and a couple of stoplights.
- 3:03Speaker 1: But Cotopaxi has a population of fewer than 50 people.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Fifty.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Fifty. They have a century-old general store, a post office,
- 3:12Speaker 1: and just miles of rugged isolation.
- 3:15Speaker 2: You know, the sociological impact of growing up in an
- 3:18Speaker 2: environment that small, I mean, it cannot be overstated.
- 3:22Speaker 1: How so?
- 3:23Speaker 2: Well, it shapes a person's entire worldview and their baseline
- 3:26Speaker 2: for trust. In a community of 50 people, anonymity simply
- 3:31Speaker 2: does not exist.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. Everyone knows everything.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Exactly. Everyone knows your family, your business, your history, your
- 3:37Speaker 2: daily routines. For a teenager who is craving independence, that
- 3:41Speaker 2: environment can feel incredibly restricted.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Almost suffocating, I'd imagine.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Yes, suffocating. But paradoxically, it also provides a very tight,
- 3:49Speaker 2: impenetrable safety net.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Because if you stumble in a town of 50 people,
- 3:53Speaker 2: someone is there to catch you before you hit the ground.
- 3:55Speaker 1: But Leo wasn't the type to just blend into the
- 3:57Speaker 1: mountain scenery and accept a quiet life.
- 4:00Speaker 2: No, not at all.
- 4:01Speaker 1: The reporting paints this picture of a girl who is
- 4:03Speaker 1: super vibrant and highly social... Her family, especially her older
- 4:07Speaker 1: brother Max, described her as a joker.
- 4:09Speaker 2: They were very close.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Yeah, they fought like typical siblings, but were essentially best friends,
- 4:14Speaker 1: speaking almost every single day. Right. She hung out with
- 4:17Speaker 1: the artsy crowd at Cotopaxi High. She was deeply into
- 4:21Speaker 1: electronic music. And her mother, Renee, lovingly described her as
- 4:25Speaker 1: a massive selfie hound.
- 4:27Speaker 2: She was always taking pictures.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Constantly. She was documenting her life all the time. Digitally speaking,
- 4:33Speaker 1: she was living out loud.
- 4:35Speaker 2: And that creates a really fascinating juxtaposition.
- 4:38Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 4:39Speaker 2: Well, you have a teenager from a geographically isolated, microscopic
- 4:43Speaker 2: town who is utilizing a smartphone and social media platforms
- 4:48Speaker 2: to project her life outward to a much broader, digitized,
- 4:52Speaker 2: and largely unknown world.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Right, trying to reach beyond the mountains.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Exactly. And when someone with that outgoing, highly documented personality...
- 5:00Speaker 2: decides to physically migrate away from that safety net toward
- 5:03Speaker 2: a major urban center like Denver, well, the vulnerability just skyrockets.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Because they don't know what they're walking into.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Yes, they are stepping out of a predictable fishbowl and
- 5:13Speaker 2: diving into a turbulent ocean. They very often lack the
- 5:17Speaker 2: street smarts necessary to navigate the darker, more predatory currents
- 5:21Speaker 2: of city life.
- 5:22Speaker 1: And if you look at the timeline provided in the investigation,
- 5:26Speaker 1: those dark currents pulled her under terrifyingly fast.
- 5:29Speaker 2: They really did.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Her family thought she was up in Denver studying to
- 5:33Speaker 1: become a massage therapist.
- 5:34Speaker 2: That was the official story.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Right. The picture her digital life painted, all the smiling selfies,
- 5:39Speaker 1: the fun artsy vibe, was this meticulously constructed facade. It
- 5:44Speaker 1: was covering up a very different reality on the ground.
- 5:47Speaker 2: A very dark reality.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Yeah. She was keeping massive life-altering secrets from her mother
- 5:52Speaker 1: and her brother. First off, she had secretly dropped out
- 5:55Speaker 1: of her massage therapy college.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Which is a huge red flag on its own.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Huge. Huge. And second, this teenager had moved in with
- 6:01Speaker 1: a 38-year-old tattoo artist named Jessie Mine.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Okay, that 19-year age gap is just a blaring siren.
- 6:07Speaker 1: It's massive. It is.
- 6:09Speaker 2: You have a 19-year-old girl and a 38-year-old man. Developmentally, experientially, financially,
- 6:16Speaker 2: there is an inherent massive power imbalance in that dynamic.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 6:20Speaker 2: A teenager seeking independence is highly susceptible to the influence
- 6:25Speaker 2: of an older partner who appears established or corrupt. you know, worldly. Right.
- 6:29Speaker 1: He seems like he knows how the world works.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Exactly. And according to the accounts of her close friend,
- 6:34Speaker 2: Mallory Nixon, it was this much older man who introduced
- 6:38Speaker 2: Leah to hard drugs.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Specifically heroin.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:42Speaker 1: And the escalation was really frightening. Mallory recounted this absolutely
- 6:46Speaker 1: heartbreaking moment to the reporters. They were driving up to
- 6:48Speaker 1: Denver for an electronic music concert and Leah just confessed
- 6:52Speaker 1: to her out of nowhere.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Just brought it up in the car.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Yeah. She admitted she had tried heroin for the first time.
- 6:57Speaker 1: And the terrifying part was her immediate realization of the
- 7:00Speaker 1: grip it already had on her. She told Mallory point
- 7:03Speaker 1: blank that she was already hooked.
- 7:05Speaker 2: We have to delve into the neurobiology of what is
- 7:07Speaker 2: actually happening there because it really speaks to the insidious,
- 7:11Speaker 2: terrifying speed of heroin addiction.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Please do, because I think a lot of people don't
- 7:14Speaker 1: get how fast it happens. Right.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Heroin doesn't just make you feel good. It fundamentally rewires
- 7:19Speaker 2: the brain's reward and survival centers almost instantly. Wow. Instantly.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Basically, yeah. When someone uses heroin... It crosses the blood-brain
- 7:28Speaker 1: barrier rapidly and binds to these things called mu-opioid receptors.
- 7:33Speaker 1: This triggers a massive unnatural flood of dopamine. It is
- 7:37Speaker 1: way beyond what the brain is designed to experience naturally.
- 7:40Speaker 2: So the brain just gets overwhelmed.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Exactly. And the brain responds by down-regulating its own dopamine production.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Meaning it stops making its own feel-good chemicals.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Right. For a 19-year-old who is already untethered from her
- 7:53Speaker 1: educational path, Isolated from her family's daily physical presence and
- 7:57Speaker 1: entrenched in this heavily imbalanced relationship, that chemical surge becomes
- 8:02Speaker 1: the primary anchor in her life.
- 8:04Speaker 2: That's so sad.
- 8:05Speaker 1: It is. The drug hijacks the survival instinct. The brain
- 8:09Speaker 1: literally starts to believe it needs heroin as much as
- 8:12Speaker 1: it needs food or water.
- 8:13Speaker 2: You know, hearing all this is like she is running
- 8:15Speaker 2: a high-end restaurant.
- 8:16Speaker 1: A restaurant. Yeah, think about it. If you look at
- 8:18Speaker 1: her social media or talk to her family... You are
- 8:22Speaker 1: seeing the front of the house. The lighting is perfect.
- 8:24Speaker 1: The music is playing. The presentation is flawless. Everyone out
- 8:29Speaker 1: there thinks things are going great.
- 8:31Speaker 2: I see where you're going with this.
- 8:32Speaker 1: But in the back of the house, the kitchen is
- 8:34Speaker 1: completely engulfed in flames. The alarms are blaring. And she
- 8:38Speaker 1: is just desperately trying to keep the smoke from drifting
- 8:40Speaker 1: out into the dining room.
- 8:42Speaker 2: That is a tragically accurate analogy.
- 8:44Speaker 1: I mean, think about the sheer mechanics of maintaining that lie.
- 8:48Speaker 1: How does a teenager completely compartmentalize a severe heroin addiction
- 8:52Speaker 1: from a deeply connected family life, especially when she is
- 8:56Speaker 1: speaking to her brother every single day?
- 8:59Speaker 2: The sheer mental bandwidth required is exhausting. Compartmentalization for an
- 9:03Speaker 2: addict becomes a full-time, round-the-clock job.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Just to keep up the act. Right.
- 9:07Speaker 2: It's driven by profound shame and the fierce biological imperative
- 9:11Speaker 2: to protect access to the drug. When she answered the
- 9:15Speaker 2: phone for her brother or her mother... She was essentially
- 9:17Speaker 2: clocking in for a shift.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Putting on the uniform.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Exactly. She reverted to the role they expected her to play,
- 9:24Speaker 2: the joking sister, the loving daughter. She curated the tone
- 9:27Speaker 2: of her voice with the exact same precision she used
- 9:30Speaker 2: to curate a selfie.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Wow.
- 9:32Speaker 2: But operating in high-adrenaline survival mode while managing the physiological
- 9:37Speaker 2: rollercoaster of opioid use is entirely unsustainable.
- 9:40Speaker 1: It really is. Maintaining that high-end restaurant facade takes a
- 9:44Speaker 1: massive amount of energy. You can't keep a kitchen fire
- 9:47Speaker 1: hidden forever.
- 9:48Speaker 2: No, you can't.
- 9:49Speaker 1: And for Leah, the smoke started pouring into the dining
- 9:51Speaker 1: room in early June of 2014 when a severe physiological
- 9:55Speaker 1: crisis forced her hand.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Right. The timeline gets very tight here. Yes.
- 9:59Speaker 1: And despite... the addiction, the reporting makes it clear she
- 10:02Speaker 1: was actively fighting to get her life back. She wasn't
- 10:04Speaker 1: just surrendering to the drug.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Which highlights the immense tragedy of the timing. The three-day
- 10:09Speaker 2: window before her disappearance is the crucial piece of the
- 10:11Speaker 2: puzzle for understanding her exact state of mind. and her
- 10:15Speaker 2: extreme physical vulnerability.
- 10:17Speaker 1: So her friend Mallory saw her down in Pueblo the
- 10:19Speaker 1: day before she vanished. Leah was actively trying to kick
- 10:23Speaker 1: the habit. She was actually attending Narcotics Anonymous meetings.
- 10:25Speaker 2: She was putting in the work.
- 10:27Speaker 1: She was. Mallory noted to investigators that Leah had been
- 10:30Speaker 1: off heroin for exactly three days, and she described her
- 10:33Speaker 1: friend as being, quote, super sick.
- 10:36Speaker 2: We really need to decode what super sick actually entails
- 10:39Speaker 2: in the context of opioid withdrawal.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Because it's not just a cold.
- 10:43Speaker 2: No. The general public often equates it to a bad flu,
- 10:46Speaker 2: but it is so much more violent than that.
- 10:48Speaker 1: How bad does it get?
- 10:49Speaker 2: Well, at the 72-hour mark, which is exactly where Leah was,
- 10:53Speaker 2: an addict is hitting the absolute peak of acute physical withdrawal.
- 10:56Speaker 2: The peak? The absolute peak. Because the brain has stopped
- 11:00Speaker 2: producing its own baseline chemicals to manage pain and stress,
- 11:03Speaker 2: the sudden absence of the opioid causes a massive rebound
- 11:07Speaker 2: effect in an area of the brain called the locus coeruleus.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Okay, and what does that do to the body?
- 11:14Speaker 2: Bone-crushing aches. We're talking about intense cold flashes, profuse sweating,
- 11:19Speaker 2: involuntary spasms in the legs.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Wait, is that where the phrase kicking the habit comes from?
- 11:24Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That's exactly where it comes from. And we're
- 11:27Speaker 2: also talking about relentless vomiting and diarrhea. And layered on
- 11:31Speaker 2: top of all this physical agony is a level of
- 11:34Speaker 2: psychological terror, anxiety, and craving that just defies description.
- 11:39Speaker 1: It sounds like actual torture.
- 11:41Speaker 2: It is physiological torture. Right. Her entire nervous system was
- 11:44Speaker 2: screaming for relief and she was fighting a monumental minute
- 11:48Speaker 2: by minute battle against her own neurochemistry just to stay clean.
- 11:53Speaker 1: It's arguably the hardest physical and mental challenge a human
- 11:56Speaker 1: being can endure. And she is attempting it at 19
- 11:59Speaker 1: years old.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:00Speaker 1: But right in the middle of this physiological hell, a
- 12:04Speaker 1: massive catalyst hits.
- 12:05Speaker 2: The breakup. Yes.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Jessie Mine, the 38-year-old boyfriend who introduced her to the
- 12:10Speaker 1: drug in the first place, breaks up with her.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Talk about terrible timing.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Right. According to his statements to the police, he decided
- 12:17Speaker 1: he needed to move back across the country to his
- 12:19Speaker 1: parents' house in Maryland to try and get clean himself.
- 12:22Speaker 2: So he just leaves her?
- 12:23Speaker 1: He packs up and leaves, and this sick, struggling 19-year-old
- 12:27Speaker 1: girl is instantly rendered homeless.
- 12:31Speaker 2: It creates a perfect, devastating storm of vulnerability. Look at
- 12:34Speaker 2: all the compounding factors here.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Yeah, lay them out.
- 12:36Speaker 2: She is enduring peak acute physiological withdrawal. Her romantic relationship,
- 12:42Speaker 2: as toxic as it was, has just been completely severed.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Right.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Her primary housing situation has evaporated overnight. And she is
- 12:50Speaker 2: geographically displaced from her childhood safety net back in Cotopaxi.
- 12:54Speaker 1: She has absolutely nothing.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Nothing. The psychological toll of withdrawal is already characterized by
- 12:59Speaker 2: profound despair and a sense of impending doom. Dropping sudden
- 13:04Speaker 2: homelessness and abandonment into that equation... leaves her with virtually
- 13:07Speaker 2: zero defenses.
- 13:09Speaker 1: So she packs whatever belongings she has into her car.
- 13:12Speaker 1: She starts driving toward Denver, and out of sheer desperation,
- 13:15Speaker 1: she takes to social media.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Reaching out to the digital world again.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Exactly. She starts posting updates along the drive, essentially begging
- 13:22Speaker 1: her network for a lifeline. She's asking if anyone has
- 13:25Speaker 1: a couch she can surf on in the city.
- 13:27Speaker 2: And that digital broadcast of distress is the pivotal moment
- 13:30Speaker 2: in this case.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Why do you say that?
- 13:32Speaker 2: Because in her mind, she is simply utilizing her usual
- 13:36Speaker 2: method of communication to reach out to her community for help.
- 13:39Speaker 2: But to anyone watching those feeds with predatory intent, she
- 13:43Speaker 2: isn't just asking for a place to sleep.
- 13:45Speaker 1: What are they seeing?
- 13:46Speaker 2: She is broadcasting a high-definition signal of extreme vulnerability.
- 13:51Speaker 1: I mean, think about the reality of that situation for
- 13:53Speaker 1: a moment. She wasn't just casually checking apartment listings.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Oh, not at all.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Her social media pleas were a beacon of... She was wounded,
- 14:00Speaker 1: physically sick, emotionally devastated, completely untethered from any safe shelter.
- 14:05Speaker 1: And she was putting all of that information out there
- 14:08Speaker 1: on the Internet for literally anyone to see.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Anyone.
- 14:11Speaker 1: And then absolute silence.
- 14:14Speaker 2: And for a girl who documented every mundane detail of
- 14:17Speaker 2: her life, who spoke to her brother daily, who was
- 14:19Speaker 2: just frantically seeking shelter online, a sudden cessation of digital
- 14:24Speaker 2: activity is the loudest alarm bell imaginable.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Max knew it in his bones almost immediately.
- 14:29Speaker 2: He felt it.
- 14:29Speaker 1: He really did. He described the agony of calling and
- 14:32Speaker 1: calling and calling his sister's phone for days with it
- 14:35Speaker 1: just ringing into the void. The digital silence was just
- 14:39Speaker 1: deafening to him.
- 14:40Speaker 2: It must have been terrifying.
- 14:41Speaker 1: The panic quickly metastasized into the family, realizing she was
- 14:45Speaker 1: truly gone. And that is where the dynamic of this
- 14:48Speaker 1: investigation shifts entirely. We enter the phase of a mother's crusade.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Because when formal systems, like filing a missing persons report
- 14:57Speaker 2: with the police department, are initiated, there are protocols.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Yeah, rules they have to follow. Right.
- 15:02Speaker 2: There's often a mandated waiting period, jurisdictional hurdles, this whole
- 15:06Speaker 2: bureaucratic process that demands patience from the family. But a
- 15:10Speaker 2: mother's instinct does not understand, nor does it respect, bureaucracy.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Renee Jackson flat out refused to accept the waiting game.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Good for her.
- 15:19Speaker 1: She told reporters, I can't live with that. not knowing
- 15:21Speaker 1: was simply not an option. So her grief metabolizes into
- 15:24Speaker 1: hyper-focused action.
- 15:26Speaker 2: What does she do?
- 15:26Speaker 1: She starts consulting psychics. She is poring over and memorizing
- 15:30Speaker 1: police records. She is dipping into her own pockets to
- 15:34Speaker 1: pay the travel expenses for volunteers to come out and
- 15:37Speaker 1: help her physically comb through the dusty, winding mountain trails
- 15:41Speaker 1: of central Colorado.
- 15:42Speaker 2: The psychology behind her response is both fascinating and heartbreaking.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Yeah, the psychics part especially stands out.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Well, When faced with an absolute void of information regarding
- 15:53Speaker 2: a child's safety, the human brain demands action to regain
- 15:56Speaker 2: any semblance of control over a totally uncontrollable situation.
- 16:01Speaker 1: So the psychics give her a sense of control.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Exactly. Consulting psychics is frequently dismissed or even mocked by
- 16:07Speaker 2: formal law enforcement, but it is an incredibly common recourse
- 16:10Speaker 2: for desperate families.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Really?
- 16:12Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Why? Because a psychic offers a narrative, any narrative,
- 16:16Speaker 2: even a tragic one, to fill the agonizing silence. It
- 16:19Speaker 2: gives the brain something concrete to focus on.
- 16:21Speaker 1: That makes total sense.
- 16:23Speaker 2: And meanwhile, her act of memorizing police records shows her
- 16:26Speaker 2: analytical side operating in overdrive, attempting to synthesize data faster
- 16:30Speaker 2: than the detectives assigned to the case.
- 16:33Speaker 1: And both Renee and Max have a primary target in
- 16:35Speaker 1: mind right out of the gate.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure they did.
- 16:37Speaker 1: They walk into the police station and point a giant
- 16:41Speaker 1: flashing neon finger directly at the 38-year-old ex-boyfriend, Jesse Mines.
- 16:46Speaker 2: Which, from an investigative standpoint, is entirely logical.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:50Speaker 2: The boyfriend. Statistically speaking, in cases involving missing women, law
- 16:55Speaker 2: enforcement always looks at the romantic partner first.
- 16:58Speaker 1: It's usually them, right?
- 16:59Speaker 2: Usually, yes. When you add in the significant age gap,
- 17:03Speaker 2: the history of introducing the victim to intravenous drugs, and
- 17:07Speaker 2: the highly volatile recent breakup that resulted in her homelessness,
- 17:11Speaker 2: I mean, he is the textbook prime suspect.
- 17:14Speaker 1: So the police agree, and they bring Jesse Mein in
- 17:17Speaker 1: for questioning. The interrogation details here are very revealing.
- 17:20Speaker 2: What did he say?
- 17:21Speaker 1: Mein claims they had this highly emotional breakup in a
- 17:23Speaker 1: motel parking lot near Denver. He says they cried, they
- 17:27Speaker 1: said their goodbyes, and he headed east toward Maryland while
- 17:30Speaker 1: she stayed behind in Denver to crash with friends.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Okay, so he puts himself out of state.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Right. And he admits to the detectives that it was
- 17:37Speaker 1: weird she stopped texting him immediately, especially knowing how glued
- 17:41Speaker 1: she was to her phone. Well, yeah. But he insists
- 17:44Speaker 1: he didn't actually panic until Max called him. He quoted
- 17:48Speaker 1: Max's phone call to the police saying Max demanded, yo dude,
- 17:51Speaker 1: where's my sister?
- 17:52Speaker 2: The raw phrasing of yo dude, where's my sister strips
- 17:56Speaker 2: away all societal pleasantries.
- 17:59Speaker 1: It's direct.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Very direct. It is a confrontation. And mine's reaction, claiming
- 18:05Speaker 2: that this specific phone call was the exact moment he
- 18:08Speaker 2: realized something terrible had happened, had to be heavily scrutinized
- 18:10Speaker 2: by the investigators in that room.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Because they're looking for lies?
- 18:14Speaker 2: Exactly. They are trained to look for micro-expressions and inconsistencies.
- 18:18Speaker 2: They had to determine if he was feigning ignorance to
- 18:21Speaker 2: cover his tracks, or if he was genuinely, pathetically unaware
- 18:25Speaker 2: of her fate.
- 18:26Speaker 1: But ultimately, after pulling the records and verifying his statements,
- 18:29Speaker 1: the police clear him.
- 18:30Speaker 2: Wow. Cleared completely.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Completely. They determine he has an airtight alibi and that
- 18:36Speaker 1: he is not a suspect in her physical disappearance.
- 18:38Speaker 2: That must have crushed the family.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Oh, put yourself in Renee's shoes for a second. You
- 18:43Speaker 1: know this older guy ruined your teenage daughter's life. You
- 18:46Speaker 1: are completely certain he is the catalyst for why she
- 18:49Speaker 1: is missing in the first place.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Because he left her there.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Exactly. And the police come back and calmly say, sorry.
- 18:54Speaker 1: His alibi checks out. He's free to go. The frustration
- 18:58Speaker 1: must be blinding. I mean, how do investigators manage the
- 19:01Speaker 1: disconnect between someone who is clearly a bad actor in
- 19:05Speaker 1: a victim's life and someone who is actually guilty.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Of a crime? It is one of the most agonizing
- 19:10Speaker 2: concepts for a victim's family to accept. And it causes
- 19:14Speaker 2: massive friction between families and law enforcement.
- 19:17Speaker 1: I can see why.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Because from Renee's perspective, this 38-year-old man introduced a teenager
- 19:22Speaker 2: to heroin, got her physically dependent, and then cowardly abandoned
- 19:27Speaker 2: her in a motel parking lot while she was going
- 19:30Speaker 2: through acute withdrawal.
- 19:31Speaker 1: He basically threw her to the wolves.
- 19:33Speaker 2: He did. He rendered her completely vulnerable to predators.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Morally.
- 19:38Speaker 2: Ethically and philosophically, he bears a massive amount of responsibility
- 19:42Speaker 2: for putting her in harm's way. Right.
- 19:44Speaker 1: If he hadn't left her stranded, sick, and alone in Denver,
- 19:48Speaker 1: she wouldn't have been desperately broadcasting her location on social
- 19:51Speaker 1: media looking for a couch.
- 19:52Speaker 2: Precisely. But the criminal justice system does not prosecute moral failings.
- 19:58Speaker 2: It prosecutes violations of the penal code.
- 20:01Speaker 1: It's about the law, not feelings.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Right. Law enforcement has a very narrow, highly specific mandate.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Did this specific individual commit the physical act of kidnapping
- 20:11Speaker 2: or murder?
- 20:12Speaker 1: And in this case, the answer was no.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Right, because an airtight alibi, such as tollbooth records, cell
- 20:17Speaker 2: tower pings, or surveillance footage, proving he was physically driving
- 20:21Speaker 2: through Kansas or Missouri on his way to Maryland when
- 20:24Speaker 2: she vanished, means the laws of physics dictate he cannot
- 20:27Speaker 2: be the perpetrator of the disappearance.
- 20:29Speaker 1: He literally couldn't have been there.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Exactly. The police have to surgically separate moral negligence from
- 20:34Speaker 2: criminal guilt. They have to clear the muddy water created
- 20:37Speaker 2: by the ex-boyfriend to find the actual killer lurking underneath.
- 20:40Speaker 1: So your prime suspect is cleared. The police hit a
- 20:43Speaker 1: dead end. How do you even begin to channel that
- 20:46Speaker 1: frantic energy when the only door you had just slams
- 20:48Speaker 1: in your face?
- 20:49Speaker 2: It's a terrifying moment in an investigation.
- 20:52Speaker 1: It really is. But for Renee Jackson, the answer was data.
- 20:56Speaker 1: She doesn't wait for the detectives to find a new lead.
- 20:59Speaker 1: She pivots.
- 21:00Speaker 2: What did she do next?
- 21:01Speaker 1: She somehow gets a hold of Leah's cell phone records.
- 21:05Speaker 1: She sits down at a table and she starts methodically
- 21:08Speaker 1: calling every single number on that call log.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Wow. Doing the police's job for them.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Literally doing it herself, not relying on a detective with
- 21:17Speaker 1: a badge to do it. And as she is dialing,
- 21:20Speaker 1: one specific phone number keeps popping up over and over
- 21:24Speaker 1: again in the crucial days leading up to the disappearance.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Whose number was it?
- 21:28Speaker 1: It belongs to a guy named Christopher Wade.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Which is a name the family had never even heard before.
- 21:32Speaker 1: Never. He wasn't in their orbit. So who is Christopher Wade?
- 21:35Speaker 1: Let's look at his background because on paper, it is
- 21:38Speaker 1: incredibly jarring.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Okay, lay it out.
- 21:41Speaker 1: He is 23 years old. He actually went to high
- 21:42Speaker 1: school with Leah back in that tiny town of Cotopaxi,
- 21:46Speaker 1: though he was a few years older.
- 21:47Speaker 2: So they shared that small town connection. Yeah.
- 21:50Speaker 1: And he was a good student. He was heavily involved
- 21:52Speaker 1: in the choir and the drama club. After graduating high school,
- 21:55Speaker 1: he joined the Army, serving for two years as a
- 21:58Speaker 1: helicopter mechanic.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Okay, very structured background.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Exactly. He gets honorably discharged, comes back home to Colorado,
- 22:04Speaker 1: and enrolls in college. His major, criminal justice. He is
- 22:09Speaker 1: actively studying to become a police officer.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Wow. If you were building a psychological profile, Christopher Wade
- 22:15Speaker 2: presents as the absolute anti-Jesse mind.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Totally the opposite.
- 22:19Speaker 2: He is close to Leah's age, removing the glaring power
- 22:23Speaker 2: imbalance of an older man. He has a military background,
- 22:26Speaker 2: which implies discipline, structure, and service.
- 22:28Speaker 1: He seems like a good guy. Right.
- 22:30Speaker 2: He is involved in the arts, suggesting emotional depth. And
- 22:34Speaker 2: he is actively pursuing a career in law enforcement, which
- 22:37Speaker 2: projects a desire to protect and serve.
- 22:40Speaker 1: So he looks great on paper.
- 22:41Speaker 2: To a desperate mother looking for answers, this resume presents
- 22:45Speaker 2: the ultimate veneer of safety, authority, and respectability.
- 22:48Speaker 1: And he leverages every single ounce of that veneer perfectly
- 22:52Speaker 1: when Renee finally gets him on the phone. Wade tells
- 22:55Speaker 1: this terrified mother that he and Leah had reconnected, and
- 22:58Speaker 1: he was acting as her, quote, accountability partner.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Oh, wow. What is truly fascinating, deeply disturbing here, is
- 23:06Speaker 2: his specific weaponization of language.
- 23:09Speaker 1: How so?
- 23:10Speaker 2: Well, the term accountability partner is deeply rooted in the
- 23:13Speaker 2: culture of recovery and 12-step programs.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Like the N.A. meetings Leah was going to.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Exactly like those N.A. meetings. By using that specific phrase,
- 23:22Speaker 2: he implies a formalized, supportive, almost clinical role, dedicated entirely
- 23:27Speaker 2: to helping her maintain her sobriety. It immediately frames him
- 23:30Speaker 2: as a protector.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Man, that's dark. He tells Renee that Leah came over
- 23:33Speaker 1: to his apartment. They hung out for a bit, but
- 23:35Speaker 1: after a few hours, she left abruptly without any explanation whatsoever,
- 23:38Speaker 1: and he hadn't seen or heard from her since.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Setting up his alibi.
- 23:41Speaker 1: Yeah. And he even drops the bomb to Renee that
- 23:44Speaker 1: Leah was using hard drugs. Renee told reporters this phone
- 23:47Speaker 1: call with Wade was the very first time she learned
- 23:49Speaker 1: about the heroin addiction.
- 23:51Speaker 2: That must have been a massive shock.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Huge. Huge. But Wade is expertly playing the role of
- 23:55Speaker 1: the concerned, honest friend who was just trying to help
- 23:58Speaker 1: a troubled girl, but ultimately couldn't stop her from leaving.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Consider the psychological manipulation at play in that phone call.
- 24:05Speaker 2: By proactively revealing the secret of the drug use to
- 24:07Speaker 2: the mother, Wade accomplishes two vital things.
- 24:11Speaker 1: Which are?
- 24:12Speaker 2: First, he establishes himself as a truth teller. He gives
- 24:15Speaker 2: Renee a piece of high value information that she didn't possess,
- 24:19Speaker 2: instantly gaining her trust and positioning himself as an ally.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Right, because he told her the hard truth.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Exactly. And second, and much more sinister, he subtly shifts
- 24:29Speaker 2: the blame for Leah's disappearance onto her own addiction.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Oh, that is twisted.
- 24:34Speaker 2: It is. He is planting the seed that the erratic,
- 24:37Speaker 2: unpredictable behavior of a heroin addict is the reason she vanished.
- 24:41Speaker 2: He is effectively directing the investigative spotlight away from himself
- 24:44Speaker 2: and onto the chaotic nature of the victim's disease.
- 24:47Speaker 1: And he leans into this helpful persona hard. When Renee
- 24:50Speaker 1: brings his name to the police, Wade doesn't lawyer.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Up or hide.
- 24:53Speaker 1: He talks to the officers willingly.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Acting like he has nothing to hide.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Completely. He tells them he saw Leah's pleas for a
- 24:59Speaker 1: couch on Facebook and, being a good guy, just offered
- 25:03Speaker 1: to help her move her stuff. And then he takes
- 25:05Speaker 1: it a step further.
- 25:06Speaker 2: What does he do?
- 25:07Speaker 1: He actively joins the public search effort. He is posting
- 25:10Speaker 1: heartfelt pleas on his own social media pages, begging for
- 25:14Speaker 1: information to find her. right alongside her family's missing person posters.
- 25:19Speaker 2: We see this terrifying trope repeatedly in homicide investigations. The
- 25:23Speaker 2: perpetrator deliberately embedding themselves in the search efforts and the
- 25:27Speaker 2: media circus surrounding the victim.
- 25:29Speaker 1: But why do they do it? I mean, is it
- 25:30Speaker 1: just a sick thrill, or is there an actual strategic
- 25:33Speaker 1: advantage to playing the hero while knowing you are the villain?
- 25:36Speaker 2: It is almost always a complex, potent mix of both
- 25:40Speaker 2: strategy and pathology.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Okay, break that down.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Strategically, embedding yourself in the search keeps you intimately connected
- 25:47Speaker 2: to the real-time flow of information. You know exactly what
- 25:50Speaker 2: the police know. You know what theories the family suspects.
- 25:53Speaker 1: You're on the inside.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Yes. You know exactly which ravines the search parties are
- 25:58Speaker 2: checking on Tuesday and which ones they are saving for Wednesday.
- 26:02Speaker 2: It allows you to monitor the threat level to yourself
- 26:04Speaker 2: and adapt your story accordingly.
- 26:06Speaker 1: And the pathological side?
- 26:08Speaker 2: Psychologically, it is about absolute control and narcissism. It feeds
- 26:14Speaker 2: a dark desire to play the puppet master. They get
- 26:16Speaker 2: a perverse thrill from comforting the grieving mother, knowing they
- 26:20Speaker 2: are the architect of her grief.
- 26:21Speaker 1: That is just evil. It is.
- 26:24Speaker 2: Wade was framing himself as a savior to Renee, masking
- 26:28Speaker 2: his predation with the empathetic language of recovery.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Westminster Police Detective Matt Calhoun noted this exact behavior. He
- 26:35Speaker 1: said Wade put it out there that he really wanted
- 26:37Speaker 1: to help, that he was deeply concerned for Leah's well-being.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Playing the part.
- 26:41Speaker 1: He played the part of the good citizen perfectly, as
- 26:43Speaker 1: long as he was on the internet or on the phone.
- 26:46Speaker 1: But Wade's carefully constructed facade, this whole accountability partner routine,
- 26:50Speaker 1: hits a massive brick wall the moment seasoned detectives step
- 26:53Speaker 1: off the internet and into his actual physical world.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Because while you can easily curate a digital persona and
- 27:00Speaker 2: memorize a script, the physical environment in which a suspect
- 27:03Speaker 2: lives almost always betrays the psychological reality they are desperately
- 27:08Speaker 2: trying to hide.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Absolutely. The police ask for permission to search his two-bedroom
- 27:12Speaker 1: apartment in Westminster, and he agrees.
- 27:14Speaker 2: He just lets them in.
- 27:15Speaker 1: He just lets them in. And the scene inside is jarring.
- 27:19Speaker 1: It is a squalid, chaotic mess.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Detective Calhoun said it was physically difficult to even be
- 27:26Speaker 1: in the apartment because the stench of garbage was so overpowering. Wow.
- 27:29Speaker 1: There were video game cases scattered everywhere, empty soda bottles,
- 27:33Speaker 1: rotting leftover takeout containers, piles of dirty clothes, and unwashed
- 27:37Speaker 1: dishes completely covering the floor.
- 27:39Speaker 2: You know, the physical state of that apartment stands in stark,
- 27:42Speaker 2: immediate contrast to the disciplined image of an Army veteran
- 27:46Speaker 2: and a future police officer.
- 27:48Speaker 1: It totally shatters the illusion.
- 27:49Speaker 2: It indicates a chaotic, highly disorganized lifestyle, perhaps hinting at
- 27:54Speaker 2: underlying mental health issues or severe apathy. But from a
- 27:57Speaker 2: purely investigative standpoint, a messy apartment isn't a crime. Right.
- 28:01Speaker 1: You can't arrest someone for being a slob.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Exactly. Detectives don't arrest people for being messy. What they
- 28:07Speaker 2: are trained to look for in an environment like that
- 28:11Speaker 2: are anomalies within the chaos.
- 28:13Speaker 1: And they find a massive, glaring anomaly right in his bedroom.
- 28:16Speaker 2: What did they find?
- 28:17Speaker 1: In the middle of this filthy, cluttered room is a
- 28:20Speaker 1: twin mattress sitting directly on the floor. But unlike the
- 28:24Speaker 1: rest of the garbage-strewn apartment, the bed is completely stripped bare.
- 28:28Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
- 28:28Speaker 1: There are no sheets. There are no blankets. There are
- 28:31Speaker 1: no pillowcases on the pillows. Just a bare, naked mattress
- 28:35Speaker 1: surrounded by weeks of accumulated trash.
- 28:37Speaker 2: That is the ultimate red flag.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Because it's too clean, right?
- 28:40Speaker 2: Yes. When an environment is uniformly chaotic and filthy, a
- 28:45Speaker 2: sudden isolated area of hyper-cleanliness or removal is highly suspicious.
- 28:50Speaker 2: Why in an apartment overflowing with dirty laundry and rotting
- 28:53Speaker 2: food is the bedding completely missing?
- 28:55Speaker 1: It doesn't fit the pattern.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Exactly. To an investigator walking into a missing person's case,
- 29:01Speaker 2: a stripped bed immediately suggests the frantic disposal of biological evidence.
- 29:06Speaker 2: It suggests that blood, bodily fluids, or something directly tying
- 29:10Speaker 2: the victim to that specific location was on those sheets,
- 29:14Speaker 2: and the suspect had removed them to sanitize the scene.
- 29:17Speaker 1: It escalates very quickly from there. They secure his computer
- 29:21Speaker 1: and check his search history, finding he's been frequenting extreme
- 29:24Speaker 1: bondage websites.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Oh, the huge red flag.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Yeah. Then, amidst the clutter, they find a duffel bag
- 29:30Speaker 1: stuffed full of women's underwear.
- 29:32Speaker 2: In a single guy's apartment.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Right. But it's all size 14. Lee Porter was incredibly petite.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Her mother noticed she weighed barely 98. pounds.
- 29:40Speaker 2: So they didn't belong to her. No.
- 29:42Speaker 1: And then the final nail in the coffin. Right next
- 29:45Speaker 1: to the bare mattress on the floor, they find a knife.
- 29:48Speaker 2: A knife?
- 29:49Speaker 1: Yes, a knife with bleach spots on the blade.
- 29:51Speaker 2: Oh boy. The physical evidence is compounding rapidly here, creating
- 29:55Speaker 2: a terrifying narrative. You have evidence of potential sexual deviance
- 29:58Speaker 2: with the bondage search history. You have a collection of
- 30:01Speaker 2: items that suggest deep-seated fetishes or, more worryingly, trophies from
- 30:07Speaker 2: previous unknown victims with the oversized underwear.
- 30:10Speaker 1: That's a scary thought.
- 30:11Speaker 2: And you have a weapon that has been chemically altered,
- 30:13Speaker 2: which screams of a desperate cleanup attempt. Let's talk about
- 30:17Speaker 2: the science of that bleach for a moment because it
- 30:19Speaker 2: is vital.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Yeah, why is bleach so important here?
- 30:22Speaker 2: When a criminal uses household bleach sodium hypochlorite, They aren't
- 30:26Speaker 2: just trying to wash away the red stain of blood.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Bleach is highly oxidative.
- 30:31Speaker 1: What does that mean for evidence?
- 30:32Speaker 2: It attacks the cellular membrane of biological material, bursting the
- 30:36Speaker 2: cell open. Once inside, it literally attacks the hydrogen bonds
- 30:40Speaker 2: that hold the DNA double helix together, unzipping and degrading
- 30:44Speaker 2: the genetic material so that a forensic lab can no
- 30:47Speaker 2: longer extract a usable profile.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Wow. It destroys the DNA completely. Yes.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Finding a bleached weapon is a profound indicator of consciousness
- 30:56Speaker 2: of guilt.
- 30:56Speaker 1: So Detective Calhoun doesn't wait. He confronts Wade about this
- 31:00Speaker 1: stuff right there in the messy bedroom. And Wader's excuses
- 31:03Speaker 1: are utterly, laughably absurd.
- 31:06Speaker 2: What did he say?
- 31:07Speaker 1: When asked about the duffel bag of size 14 women's underwear,
- 31:11Speaker 1: he jumps up real quick, gets super defensive, and says, no, no,
- 31:13Speaker 1: those are mine. I wear them because they're more comfortable.
- 31:15Speaker 2: He claimed they were his.
- 31:16Speaker 1: He claimed he wears size 14 women's underwear for comfort.
- 31:20Speaker 1: and the bleached knife sitting by the bare bed. He
- 31:24Speaker 1: claims he cut his hand a week and a half
- 31:26Speaker 1: earlier and used bleach on the knife to clean it.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Analyzing the psychology of these specific responses is crucial to
- 31:33Speaker 2: understanding an interrogation. Wade is backed into a corner, and
- 31:37Speaker 2: his cognitive load is completely maxed out.
- 31:40Speaker 1: He's panicking.
- 31:41Speaker 2: He is. Lying requires immense brain power. You have to
- 31:45Speaker 2: invent a scenario, ensure it fits the known facts, and
- 31:47Speaker 2: suppress the truth simultaneously. He is trying to generate innocent
- 31:51Speaker 2: explanations on the fly for incredibly damning evidence.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Like the underwear excuse.
- 31:56Speaker 2: Right. Claiming the oversized women's underwear is for his own
- 31:58Speaker 2: personal comfort is a desperate attempt to neutralize the implication
- 32:02Speaker 2: that they belong to victims. It's a psychological defense mechanism.
- 32:06Speaker 2: He is choosing immense social embarrassment over a potential murder charge.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Better to look weird than look like a killer.
- 32:13Speaker 2: Exactly. And the knife excuse is similarly slowsy. because it
- 32:18Speaker 2: defies basic human behavior. People do not use caustic bleach
- 32:22Speaker 2: to sanitize a knife after a minor cut. They wash
- 32:25Speaker 2: it with dish soap or maybe rubbing alcohol.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Not bleach.
- 32:28Speaker 2: No, as we just discussed, bleach is universally recognized as
- 32:32Speaker 2: an agent of biological destruction.
- 32:34Speaker 1: You know, it reminds me of a cartoon character frantically
- 32:37Speaker 1: trying to plug leaks in a massive dam with pieces
- 32:40Speaker 1: of chewing gum.
- 32:41Speaker 2: That's a great image.
- 32:42Speaker 1: The excuses are just so flimsy, so ridiculously inadequate for
- 32:45Speaker 1: the pressure of the situation. that they actually draw far
- 32:48Speaker 1: more attention to his guilt than if he had just
- 32:50Speaker 1: invoked his right to remain silent and asked for a lawyer.
- 32:54Speaker 2: That analogy is perfect. He is plugging holes with gum
- 32:57Speaker 2: while the dam is actively collapsing on top of him.
- 33:00Speaker 2: And experienced investigators recognize that specific flavor of panic.
- 33:04Speaker 1: They can smell blood in the water.
- 33:05Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. The stripped bed and the bleached knife escalate
- 33:09Speaker 2: the situation far beyond a friendly, voluntary walkthrough of an apartment.
- 33:15Speaker 2: The detectives stop asking nicely amidst the garbage. They ask
- 33:18Speaker 2: him to come down to the station for a formal interview.
- 33:20Speaker 1: They bring him into the box.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Yes.
- 33:22Speaker 1: And at the station, the environment changes from his territory
- 33:25Speaker 1: to police territory, and suddenly Wade's story changes too.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Of course it does.
- 33:30Speaker 1: He completely abandons the she left abruptly narrative that he
- 33:35Speaker 1: fed to Renee. Now, he claims that while they were
- 33:38Speaker 1: hanging out playing video games, Leah came on to him.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Ah, changing the dynamics.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Yeah, he says she leaned in and kissed him, he
- 33:45Speaker 1: kissed her back, and it led to consensual sex in
- 33:48Speaker 1: his bedroom.
- 33:49Speaker 2: This is a classic minimization technique, and it shows he's
- 33:52Speaker 2: trying to adapt to the evidence.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Because he knows what they saw.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Exactly. When he realizes the police have searched his bedroom
- 33:59Speaker 2: and likely found trace evidence, because he assumes they will
- 34:02Speaker 2: find DNA or hair despite the missing sheets, he has
- 34:06Speaker 2: to introduce a narrative that explains her physical presence on
- 34:09Speaker 2: that mattress in a nonviolent, legally permissible way.
- 34:13Speaker 1: So he invents consensual sex.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Claiming consensual sex is the absolute go-to maneuver for suspects
- 34:18Speaker 2: in these situations because it provides an innocent explanation for
- 34:22Speaker 2: the transfer of DNA.
- 34:23Speaker 1: And as for the script bed, he tells the detectives
- 34:26Speaker 1: that when Renee, Leah's mother, called his phone frantically looking
- 34:30Speaker 1: for her daughter, he suddenly panicked about the sexual encounter
- 34:34Speaker 1: and just threw his sheets in the trash.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Which, if you think about it for more than three seconds,
- 34:39Speaker 2: makes absolutely no logical sense.
- 34:41Speaker 1: None at all.
- 34:42Speaker 2: If you had consensual sex with a former high school
- 34:45Speaker 2: friend and her mother calls looking for her, you don't
- 34:48Speaker 2: strip your bed and throw your sheets in a dumpster.
- 34:50Speaker 1: Right.
- 34:50Speaker 2: You might feel socially awkward. You might lie and say
- 34:53Speaker 2: she isn't there. But you do not destroy your own property.
- 34:57Speaker 2: The detectives know this. They know the story is a
- 35:00Speaker 2: frantic fabrication designed solely to accommodate the physical evidence they
- 35:05Speaker 2: have already discovered.
- 35:06Speaker 1: So the detectives are completely done playing along with the
- 35:09Speaker 1: chewing gum excuses. Detective Mike? Lynch takes over the room
- 35:13Speaker 1: and he shifts the tone of the interrogation dramatically.
- 35:15Speaker 2: He turns it up.
- 35:16Speaker 1: He told reporters they, quote, started turning the heat up.
- 35:20Speaker 1: He bypasses all the lies about video games, comfortable underwear
- 35:24Speaker 1: and panicked laundry sessions. He leans in, locks eyes with
- 35:28Speaker 1: Wade and asks point blank, where is the body at?
- 35:31Speaker 1: Is that body out there with the cell phone? Did
- 35:33Speaker 1: you kill Leah Porter? Wow.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Very direct.
- 35:37Speaker 1: And under that direct crushing pressure. Wade finally breaks. He
- 35:42Speaker 1: confesses to the murder.
- 35:43Speaker 2: This is a textbook execution of advanced interrogation strategy, heavily
- 35:47Speaker 2: influenced by methods like the Reed technique.
- 35:49Speaker 1: The Reed technique.
- 35:50Speaker 2: Yeah. Detective Lynch abandoned fact-finding, open-ended questions. He didn't ask,
- 35:54Speaker 2: what happened? Or, did you see her? He moved entirely
- 35:58Speaker 2: into presumptive questioning.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Which means assuming guilt.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Yes. Notice the phrasing. He didn't ask if Wade knew
- 36:03Speaker 2: where she was. He asked where the body was. By
- 36:06Speaker 2: presenting the suspect's guilt as a foregone, undeniable conclusion, Lynch
- 36:10Speaker 2: removed Wade's ability to hide behind the timeline or the
- 36:13Speaker 2: consensual sex story.
- 36:15Speaker 1: He just trapped him.
- 36:16Speaker 2: He trapped him in a mental corner. The immense psychological
- 36:19Speaker 2: weight of that direct accusation, combined with Wade's own mental
- 36:24Speaker 2: exhaustion from maintaining multiple conflicting lies over several days, caused
- 36:29Speaker 2: the cognitive dam to finally break.
- 36:31Speaker 1: But here is where this case gets profoundly, chillingly interesting.
- 36:35Speaker 2: The twist.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Yes. The confession is just the beginning of the twist.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Because after Wade is arrested and the news breaks, one
- 36:42Speaker 1: of his college professors, a man named Robert Wells, comes
- 36:46Speaker 1: forward to the media with a revelation that turns this
- 36:48Speaker 1: entire story on its head.
- 36:50Speaker 2: What did he say?
- 36:51Speaker 1: Wade wasn't just a criminal justice major taking general education classes.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Professor Wells reveals that in his specific curriculum, Wade was
- 36:59Speaker 1: actively taught interview and interrogation tactics. He was taught report writing.
- 37:04Speaker 1: He was taught crime scene management, forensics, and I quote
- 37:07Speaker 1: the professor directly here, how to clean up a crime scene.
- 37:10Speaker 2: He literally took a class on it.
- 37:11Speaker 1: He was taught the exact specific challenges police face in
- 37:15Speaker 1: acquiring and preserving evidence.
- 37:17Speaker 2: The irony is absolutely staggering. You have a perpetrator who
- 37:21Speaker 2: was sitting in a college classroom taking detailed notes on
- 37:24Speaker 2: the exact methodologies the detectives were using to corner him.
- 37:28Speaker 1: Knowing exactly how it works.
- 37:29Speaker 2: He was formally educated on how biological evidence transfers between
- 37:33Speaker 2: suspect and victim. He knew the chemical properties of bleach
- 37:36Speaker 2: and He understood how investigators are trained to look for anomalies,
- 37:39Speaker 2: like a stripped bed, in a physical environment.
- 37:42Speaker 1: But see, I have to push back on this because
- 37:44Speaker 1: it drives me absolutely crazy when reading this file.
- 37:47Speaker 2: That part.
- 37:48Speaker 1: If he was literally taking college-level courses on crime scene
- 37:51Speaker 1: management and forensic countermeasures, why did he do such a spectacularly,
- 37:56Speaker 1: embarrassingly terrible job at it?
- 37:58Speaker 2: That is the million-dollar question.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Leaving a bleached weapon sitting out in plain sight, right
- 38:03Speaker 1: next to a completely stripped mattress in an otherwise filthy apartment,
- 38:07Speaker 1: isn't a masterclass in forensics, it a giant neon arrow
- 38:12Speaker 1: pointing directly to his guilt.
- 38:14Speaker 2: It really is.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Was it just pure, unadulterated arrogance? Did he genuinely think
- 38:19Speaker 1: he was smarter than the veteran cops? Or does all
- 38:22Speaker 1: that textbook theory just completely disintegrate when the very real
- 38:26Speaker 1: panic of having actually committed a brutal murder sets in?
- 38:30Speaker 2: It is a potent combination of both, but heavily, heavily
- 38:34Speaker 2: weighted toward the biological reality.
- 38:35Speaker 1: Of So his body just betrayed him.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Yes. Arrogance certainly played a role in the beginning. It
- 38:42Speaker 2: likely gave him the false confidence to embed himself in
- 38:45Speaker 2: the search, to talk to the mother, and to agree
- 38:48Speaker 2: to the apartment walkthrough, believing he could outsmart them.
- 38:51Speaker 1: He thought he had it handled.
- 38:52Speaker 2: But the sloppy, chaotic execution of the cleanup speaks to
- 38:56Speaker 2: the profound difference between academic theory and the violent, adrenaline-fueled
- 39:00Speaker 2: reality of committing a homicide.
- 39:03Speaker 1: It is one thing to calmly answer a multiple choice
- 39:05Speaker 1: question about the oxidative properties of bleach on a Tuesday
- 39:08Speaker 1: morning in a lecture hall.
- 39:09Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 39:10Speaker 1: It's another thing entirely to try and meticulously sanitize a
- 39:13Speaker 1: gruesome murder scene while your victim's family is hunting for
- 39:17Speaker 1: her and your phone is ringing.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Exactly the point. When a human being commits an act
- 39:21Speaker 2: of extreme violence, the amygdala, the brain's threat detection center,
- 39:27Speaker 2: completely hijacks the system.
- 39:28Speaker 1: The fight or flight response.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Right. The sympathetic nervous system goes into severe overdrive, initiating
- 39:35Speaker 2: a massive fight or flight response. The brain is flooded
- 39:38Speaker 2: with cortisol and adrenaline. When that happens, the prefrontal cortex,
- 39:43Speaker 2: the area responsible for logical reasoning, sequential planning, and recalling
- 39:48Speaker 2: academic information, is severely impaired.
- 39:51Speaker 1: So he literally couldn't think straight.
- 39:53Speaker 2: Cognitive bandwidth narrows drastically. Wade likely fixated on the most
- 39:57Speaker 2: obvious glaring sources of evidence, the blood-soaked sheets and the
- 40:01Speaker 2: murder weapon.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Get rid of the blood!
- 40:02Speaker 2: He removed the sheets and poured bleach on the knife,
- 40:05Speaker 2: but in his panicked, biologically compromised state, he entirely failed
- 40:09Speaker 2: to recognize that the conspicuous absence of the sheets and
- 40:12Speaker 2: the highly suspicious presence of the bleach were just as
- 40:15Speaker 2: incriminating as the blood itself.
- 40:17Speaker 1: Because he couldn't see the big picture anymore?
- 40:19Speaker 2: Academic theory requires a calm, regulated mind to execute properly.
- 40:24Speaker 2: And a murderer desperately trying to cover his tracks is
- 40:27Speaker 2: the furthest thing from calm.
- 40:29Speaker 1: It just goes to show that a formal textbook education
- 40:32Speaker 1: in the criminal justice system couldn't save him from his
- 40:34Speaker 1: own basic human error, his biologically panicked sloppiness, and most importantly,
- 40:39Speaker 1: a mother's relentless, unyielding pursuit of the truth.
- 40:43Speaker 2: Renee Jackson's fierce intuition and relentless drive were the true
- 40:48Speaker 2: engine of this case's resolution.
- 40:50Speaker 1: She broke the case.
- 40:50Speaker 2: She did. She bypassed the formal delays of the system,
- 40:54Speaker 2: found the single, glaring anomaly in the phone records, and
- 40:58Speaker 2: forced the investigation directly to the killer's doorstep before he
- 41:01Speaker 2: had time to fully dispose of the evidence or perfect
- 41:04Speaker 2: his alibi.
- 41:05Speaker 1: As we look at the totality of this case, I
- 41:08Speaker 1: want you to reflect on the immense tragedy and the
- 41:10Speaker 1: collision of worlds we've explored today.
- 41:12Speaker 2: It's a lot to take in.
- 41:13Speaker 1: You have a vulnerable 19-year-old woman fighting for her life
- 41:16Speaker 1: against her own neurochemistry to do the hardest thing imaginable,
- 41:19Speaker 1: kicking a severe heroin addiction. You have a mother whose raw,
- 41:22Speaker 1: visceral instincts refuse to accept a bureaucratic void of information.
- 41:27Speaker 1: pushing her to climb mountains and pull phone records.
- 41:30Speaker 2: By force of nature.
- 41:31Speaker 1: And you have a predator whose immense arrogance and heavy
- 41:34Speaker 1: reliance on the wholesome accountability partner facade were ultimately his
- 41:38Speaker 1: total undoing. It is a stark, devastating reminder to always
- 41:42Speaker 1: look past the surface, past the helpful routine, to the
- 41:46Speaker 1: reality operating underneath.
- 41:47Speaker 2: And it leaves us with a deeply provocative question regarding
- 41:50Speaker 2: the culture we live in today.
- 41:52Speaker 1: What's that?
- 41:52Speaker 2: Well, we exist in an era utterly saturated with true
- 41:55Speaker 2: crime media and forensic documentaries, deep dives, and easily accessible
- 41:59Speaker 2: criminal justice education. We consume massive amounts of information detailing
- 42:04Speaker 2: exactly how crimes are committed and how they are ultimately
- 42:07Speaker 2: solved by law enforcement.
- 42:09Speaker 1: It's true. Everyone who watches a few procedural dramas thinks
- 42:11Speaker 1: they're a certified armchair detective ready to solve a cold case.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Precisely. But if a formally trained, tuition-paying criminal justice student
- 42:20Speaker 2: like Christopher Wade failed so spectacularly to cover his own
- 42:23Speaker 2: tracks in the real world, it raises a crucial point
- 42:26Speaker 2: for all of us to ponder.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Does it actually help them?
- 42:29Speaker 2: That's the question. Does our societal obsession with learning how
- 42:33Speaker 2: to catch a killer actually make criminals any smarter or
- 42:37Speaker 2: more capable? Or does it simply give them a deeply
- 42:41Speaker 2: false sense of confidence, a dangerous blinding arrogance that causes
- 42:45Speaker 2: them to overplay their hand, underestimate the chaos of reality,
- 42:50Speaker 2: and ultimately provides the very breadcrumbs that lead to their
- 42:53Speaker 2: own capture.
- 42:54Speaker 1: That is a heavy thought to mull over the next
- 42:56Speaker 1: time you are binge watching a forensic procedural or listening
- 43:00Speaker 1: to an interrogation breakdown. Because out in the real world,
- 43:03Speaker 1: out on those windy, dusty mountain trails of Colorado, it
- 43:07Speaker 1: wasn't a textbook or a lecture hall that broke this case.
- 43:10Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.
- 43:11Speaker 1: It was a mother who simply wouldn't stop walking, wouldn't
- 43:13Speaker 1: stop dialing, and wouldn't stop fighting until she found the
- 43:16Speaker 1: truth about her daughter. Thank you for joining us on
- 43:18Speaker 1: this deep dive.