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Central Division Rankings for the 2025-2026 NHL Season · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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  podcast. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  That's kind of cool. Nice.
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  We all did. Nice.
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  Yes, welcoming 1 and all to Bangor management, The Fantasy
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  Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and Kevin Woo.
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  How y'all feeling going a little West today with our divisional
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  breakdown the Central Division? I can always talk about your
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  picks. The roast begin.
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  Yeah. Yes, yes, we were all excited.
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  So yeah, we're going to be breaking down the central
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  division. This is a great one.
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  I find there's so much to talk about here, tons of fantasy
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  relevant players. Definitely a top four division.
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  Yeah, I'd say so. At least top five.
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  Yeah, what they said. So yeah, let us dive in before
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  Josh, I just saw one of your picks.
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  What the bleep for for your boy cap?
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  Yeah, it's going to be a good pick.
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  But it's going to be a good pick.
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  Yeah, you'll see. All right.
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  Again, any bad pics I have I just blame on Eva and it's easy
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  business. OK, shall we begin with?
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  #8. At #8 We've got the Chicago
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  Blackhawks last year they finished #8 Josh and Kevin have
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  them ranked #8 Jakey has them ranked #7 Some notable players.
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  Connor Bedard. Don't Call My Name, Don't Call
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  My Name. Ryan Denado, Spencer Knight,
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  Frank Nazar, Sam Rinzel, What is EDS and last year their NHL
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  power play ranking as they want to guess.
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  I mean, I saw. 29. No ranked #7 in the league.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  How does this happen? Who knows?
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  Are you sure? Yeah.
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  That's crazy. That's crazy.
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  I don't think. That's a huge surprise.
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  I know, it's crazy. I think we've had a team where
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  we've spoken about their fantasy assets and then it goes from
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  such a big tear down from the first name to the second name.
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  Yeah, Connor Bidart and Ryan Donato, who we love as like a
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  late round, you know, sleeper candidate.
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  But just goes to show they're not really putting a lot of
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  talent on. Them, no, it's crazy.
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  I mean, in terms of someone you're taking in the 1st 5
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  rounds, the 1st 10 rounds, pretty much the only guy you're
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  taking the 1st 10 rounds probably on this team.
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  Yeah. And then Denado, you taken some
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  double digit rounds as a nice sleeper.
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  Knight is A0G guy, you're not gonna take him early.
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  And then Nazar we spoke about as a possible breakout.
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  And then Rinzel should be the power play one quarterback and
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  they were ranked #7 last year. So that could be a good spot to
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  be. You think there's like, like
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  election off is not gonna not gonna be that guy.
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  I think Ryan tells the guy. But I don't think it's like a
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  lock. Yeah, they definitely could be
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  up for grabs if they don't do well.
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  Because Loginov was drafted to be that next guy, like the next
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  big thing for them. This is definitely gonna be
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  another bottle of the pack team. There's no question.
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  The reason I have them at 7 is just because the team I have at
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  8 I think is worse. Completely all there.
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  Is, I mean, the thing we have at 7, I would say has a lot more
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  talent, yeah. But somehow.
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  I I don't. I don't.
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  Just like Ken Bernard take that step.
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  I mean, like he was supposed to be a McDavid level prospect.
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  Clearly hasn't happened yet, but he was better last year than I
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  think people think he was. I'd say so.
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  I mean, 67, yeah, 67 and 82 last year and the year before, 61 and
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  68. It's not such a crazy thing to
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  think that someone like of his age can just make that jump. 20
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  you know. He's don't have to defend a pick
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  while you're like one off from. The No.
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  This is nowhere near the most egregious thing you're going to
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  talk about this episode. I think it's I I'm very
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  confident in my later ones, but but you know, Nazar could have a
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  really good year. I think that Bidard is really
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  the only one I'm kind of interested in taking in the top
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  10 rounds, to be honest, from this team.
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  Yeah, exactly. And Spencer Knight is a question
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  mark to me. He'll be like a volume like guy
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  that you stream. For free on the way for Why?
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  You have to do with them. Yeah, for sure.
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  I mean there's like, is he Montabone of the?
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  World. I was gonna say honestly, how
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  many goalies would you take ahead of him?
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  Like, I think he's probably on the bottom of the pack of terms
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  of starting goalies. In terms of starting guys, who's
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  not gonna split the stars, He's gotta be the last one.
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  I can't think. Maybe ask her off on San Jose's
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  lower. I think I'd rather have ask her
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  of. I would rather ask Rob as well.
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  Then there you go. Yeah.
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  I can't think of anyone else like.
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  That it would be. Lower.
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  OK, that's a. Good pills hurt, so your give.
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  Oh my God. You know, yeah.
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  I think I'd rather spend something there.
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  You go. We found one either.
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  Way, but if it was UPL healthy I'd probably take UPL.
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  Yeah, honestly. Jet Greaves.
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  I mean, he's not even the starter, he's the back, yeah.
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  Everyone loves the Drew holiday, OK?
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  But I do want to say Frank Nasser is like the only other
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  option that's kind of like tantalizing here that I feel
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  like could be good. But if he's good, he's gonna be
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  like the type of guy I guess, like, you know, .75 points, .2
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  power play points and you're not expecting many shots, hits,
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  blocks, faceoffs. Like, yeah, so it was very
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  one-dimensional. But if you're in a deep points
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  league, that that. Could be.
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  I will say they're going to use Burakovsky.
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  They're going to really try to get the best out of them.
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  It's not that he's such an amazing player, but he has years
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  where, yeah, he's been good. He's had some fantasy relevant
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  years. Best on Colorado.
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  Yeah, it was 6180 there. I mean, that's not horrible.
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  You can kind of make that work. It's not the surrounding cast
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  you want for Bedard. But yeah, I'm in on Donado,
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  though. I feel like he has, like he's
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  the one guy that has category coverage.
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  He's tied to Bidar. They had chemistry last year.
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  Like if I want anybody on this team, it's like, yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Is it where you taking he's gonna go?
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  He's gonna go undrafted, mostly leagues out there.
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  Like if you're in a deep enough league, he'll be drafted for
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  sure. Like in our league, he'll
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  probably be drafted. Sure.
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  I mean, one of us is definitely. Taking him on anybody's radar, I
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  feel people are down on him. I think like last year was one
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  hit one year and that's it. But I really think that he
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  developed chemistry with Bedard and he's.
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  And there's just no one else is something to be said for just
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  having no other? Options just because he's old
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  people are just like is he breaking on a 29 years old but.
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  Like. Sometimes just the different
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  situation your deployment. I mean, honestly, like we think
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  Bedard's gonna take a step forward, so even if he's just
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  along for the ride and he's someone competent who could
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  finish with darts plays, yeah, that's all you need.
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  Alright, let's move to number. Is this the weakest defensive
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  core in the? Lead though.
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  Probably it has potential, a lot of young guys, but right now
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  pretty garbage. I wouldn't.
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  Yeah, it was worse. On the top of your head.
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  Rangers. No kidding.
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  They're just too young. They don't have enough.
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  Yeah, you know, veteran. In the rebuild won't won't give
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  them too much grief for that. Honestly this next one, other
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  than one defenseman has probably the worst defensive course than.
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  So let's talk about #7. At #7 We've got the Nashville
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  Predators last year, they ranked #7.
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  Josh and Kevin have them ranked #7.
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  Jake has them ranked #8. Was trying to be different.
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  Yeah, notable players Philip Forsberg, Roman Yosi, UC Saros,
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  Steven Stamkos, Jonathan Marso, Ryan O'Reilly.
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  Their NHL power play ranking last year was 18th in the
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  league. If you look at these names and
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  you're like, why is this team so bad?
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  Yeah, it's crazy. But after last year, I don't
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  think a lot of people have high hopes about the Predators, and I
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  don't see why people would. They haven't really improved
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  since the last year and they were pretty awful.
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  Yeah, just not clicking. This feels like a lot of old
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  guys got older and they were bad last year.
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  So how big can the jump really be?
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  And also just goes to show how stacked this division is.
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  I think the division is has a lot of top end teams that are
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  like actual contenders. And so, I mean, I'm not going to
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  pick them to make the playoffs. Do you think there they would be
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  better than Columbus if they were in the Metropolitan?
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  No, no, I like Columbus. Better.
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  Yeah, so it. Was really, really bad last
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  year. Yeah, I, I really just, this is
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  probably the most stacked division.
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  I just feel like there's so many good teams here.
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  But truth be told, on top of that, you listed a bunch of
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  great players. It just doesn't work.
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  Sometimes it's just. Not, I mean they have a problem
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  with the 2C as well because they don't like playing Stamkos at
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  centre for some reason. Yeah.
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  And so we're second line is gonna be Evangelista who?
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  Honestly. I've been able to sign.
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  Him, they haven't been able to sign him, but he's like a good
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  prospect. Like I'm kind of excited from
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  what he can do. But then you got Fedor
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  Svechnikov, who is going to be there to see going into the
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  season, maybe Stamkos has more of that, you know, reliability
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  and and responsibility. But yeah, it.
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  Just doesn't make sense because they did not have as good of a
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  team two years ago and they were very good and then they got good
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  players and then it just didn't work.
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  I mean, I don't. Know too many moves it felt
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  like. Yeah, feelings in the kitchen.
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  Yeah, and I feel like it was such a trots is like first year
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  as GM, and I feel like that's like something like a fan would
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  do what he did. You just go in there, you think
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  about this room, I'm just gonna sign every big name this
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  offseason and they're all good, so it'll work out.
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  But I think it's more complicated than that.
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  Also all the big names you signed all happen to be north of
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  30 so he wasn't necessarily like prepping his team for a
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  beneficial future and he also started shipping out a bunch of
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  prospects too for different trades.
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  So definitely don't like the direction the team has taken and
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  I don't see why they would be better this year than.
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  Last year, there's there's no reason and they I'm looking at
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  this roster from two years ago and the one they had last year
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  was better on paper much actually, and it just didn't
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  work. And this year versus last year,
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  you've got Yoshi, who none of us think is going to play the whole
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  season. Yeah.
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  Who's there next? Best defenseman?
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  Brady Shea. Yeah, they have Brady Shea, and
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  then who's playing Power Play one with Yoshi out once, like
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  when he inevitably gets injured or load managed Nick
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  Blankenberge. Blankenberge.
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  Actually. Yeah, yeah, actually.
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  So that's. OK, I guess.
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  Maybe nothing to write home about, yeah.
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  For sure. So that's why I just have those
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  flipped. I think that there's.
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  Voices that were like all, you know, just not, not thriving
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  with this, with this team. Yeah, definitely not enthused.
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  Do you still think the first line this team is valuable
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  though for fantasy? For me, Forsberg I still a
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  second round pick. Yep, Yoshi is like a fourth,
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  fifth round pick. Marsha So I would still take in
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  the double digit rounds or something like that because of.
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  The she'll go around round 10 like he's that's kind of where
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  he's going. It's still don't hate him there,
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  Stamkos I'm not touching. O'Reilly, I'm not touching
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  unless you're specifically need the face off wins stuff.
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  I'll take him as a as a volume guy, but I think he'll get taken
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  earlier than I want him. That's pretty much my my summary
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  of all these guys. Do you, are you worried at all
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  with Forsberg? You know, another year older,
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  slight regression. I don't see him doing worse than
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  last year. Last year he was .93.
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  He was, we talked about this a bit where he just was super slow
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  to start the year and then turned it on in the second-half
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  of the year. So I don't see why he would have
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  a worse season last year. They were so bad last year.
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  I don't think they can get worse than they were last year, but I
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  think they're going to stay similar.
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  So I see him hovering around point, lying to a point per game
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  while still having elite shots and hits.
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  So I still think he's a solid second round.
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  Pick you want sarokin or saros here.
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  I'd probably go Sorokin. Yeah, I think both teams are
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  garbage. I do think that Sorokin is
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  probably the better goalie. So I.
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  Think in his way. I think I go Saros, really,
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  Yeah. And I think it's mostly because
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  I've known Saros is going to get the bulk of the starts.
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  I was thinking starts from broken frames still.
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  Injured, yeah, Varlamov still injured, but it's mostly I think
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  he'll get more saves. You think Sarah, because he's
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  gonna get more shots? Yeah, and also I'd probably been
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  on Natural to get more wins than the Islanders if I'm being real.
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  I don't know. I think it's a great you're
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  because I think in similar situations, don't think choosing
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  one over the other is gonna help you out that much.
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  I don't really want. Either.
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  Yeah, they're gonna go well. We just both have the big names.
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  What about Stamkos is a bounce back candidate?
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  No, I have 0 interest. In Really.
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  He's 35, he's cooked. That's it.
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  I mean, I think he could put up some points like more than he
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  did. Last fall off last year was
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  immense. It was.
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  Like he does anything for back cats and I don't think the
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  points regression is gonna be big enough to make him worth
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  taking. Honestly, there's I don't even
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  think there's a place that he drops right.
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  We have why would take. Him.
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  Has there been a player that has been like so fantasy relevant
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  one season and their value just completely drops?
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  Off Jonathan Hoover down. There, that's they're the same,
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  yeah. And look, every year people take
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  Hooper dough and he just never bounced back.
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  Who you taking first, rubber door Stamkos?
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  I mean, I'm not taking either, but I'd probably take Hooper to
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  overstamp. Goes Really.
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  Yeah, I think I'd go Stamkos. Yeah, I think the Calgary is a
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  better team than Nashville and they at least have some young
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  guys who could take a step forward this year.
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  I don't see anyone on Nashville's taking a big step.
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  Forward probably only because it's like a little bit more
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  proven that Hooper does. Still not that guy.
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  And while I don't believe in the success.
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  Was more recent. Yeah, I don't believe in the
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  bounce back for example 0, but it's still higher chance that I
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  mean. At cost, I think the lottery
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  picked Stamkos can do something. Relevant.
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  No, I know I'm going to Uber though.
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  It cost Uber over, sure. I'd honestly take the Huber.
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  'S gonna get drafted. Drafted higher than.
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  You think it will be a top ten round pick?
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  Like around 10 something like. That yeah, there's like 14.
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  Yeah, I'd rather have. Like I would actually take
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  Marcel on my team. It's the most confusing logo in
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  the NHL for a time being all. Right, we have #6.
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  At number six, we have the Utah, I mean the Utah mammoth.
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  Oh, you mean? The Utah exactly.
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  Last year they ranked number six.
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  So far we're not doing too good from deviating.
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  From last. Obviously, but here Jake and
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  Kevin both have them at number six, I have them at #5.
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  Whoa, Homer. Here we go.
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  I mean, I have been to Utah, so I guess I'll take it.
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  But yeah, notable players, Clayton Keller, Dylan Guenther,
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  Michael Sergachev, J Piturca, Nick Schmaltz, Logan Cooley,
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  Carella Melka last year, they're powerfully ranked #10 in the
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  league. How do you see these notable
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  players in this power play ranking and don't think they
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  take a step up from last year? I think, I think this whole team
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  took a. Step step up from last week,
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  They still can't budget one spot in the rankings.
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  I mean things that teams ahead of them are really good.
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  I don't know, I'm feeling pretty confident in my in this one.
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  I wouldn't be shocked if they finished fifth.
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  It's just about who you put at six because that's a big deal.
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  Yeah. What about them versus Columbus?
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  That's. Your conversation.
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  They were in a different division.
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  I'd really like them. I think they're a great team.
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  But then when we have 5 through 1 here, no, I just don't see
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  them cracking that I don't believe.
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  I think they're gonna be past this number 5 team, I think.
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  That'll be my unless well, if talk about it after, but at the
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  end of the day, it's just a very.
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  Just look at the yeah, look at this team full of incredible
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  players who all took a step last year and are gonna take another
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  step this year. They got J Patrick as well to
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  add to that firepower. I just don't see how they can't.
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  There was a lot of negatives, like a triple negative, but so
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  therefore I see how I don't know too much math for me at this
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  point, but they're gonna, they're gonna be better.
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  And there's no way in my mind that they don't at least bump
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  one spot off. Yeah I really like these top 2
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  lines. Not so high on hate and you just
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  never really gone. That offensive part of his
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  getting throw him in the notable.
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  Place. Yes.
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  I'm off it now. Last year, I thought.
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  You were all of them. I mean, you started off the
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  season super hot and then he got kind of outclassed.
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  He got injured and then he got bumped in the depth and now he's
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  just kind of cooked. There's just better centres.
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  Available for sure, for sure. But that's a pretty good team.
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  Where's your 3? Right.
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  Yeah, yeah. But I was going to say the big
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  question with with the Utah is how their P1 is going to shake
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  out. Because if we go through the
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  staples, it's Keller, Gunter, Sergachev.
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  Yeah, those are the three guarantees, 3 first names.
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  There 2 see. I mean, it's small.
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  No, that's why we were saying how like, hey, Hayden's the
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  third. I was thinking Cooley and
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  Schmaltz. Wanted OK, schmaltz.
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  Don't think Schmaltz will play centre.
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  Probably, probably 2. 03 is gonna be McBain.
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  They like him. That's true, yeah.
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  Which is good though, right? I mean, if you're centering
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  schmaltz and PECO, that's pretty elite, yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean, Schmaltz is 29 and we see he's kind of like 1
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  dimensional, but he's like a good NHL guy that yeah, can get
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  points, you know? Sure, Yeah.
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  I think the biggest question is Logan Cooley if he can get on P1
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  or not. Yeah, so the two remaining power
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  play spots are gonna be divided between Peterka, Schmaltz and
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  Cooley. Two of those three guys are
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  going to get it. I don't see how Peterka doesn't
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  get it when they just traded and signed.
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  Into that should be cool. That's what that's what it
• 16:48
  should. That's what it should be.
• 16:49
  But they might like Schmaltz is veteran presence.
• 16:51
  Exactly. And I mean he has good, he has
• 16:53
  good chemistry with Keller, so it'll be interesting to see if
• 16:58
  Cooley can crack that power Play 1 would be much higher on him
• 17:01
  then if he doesn't so. He's a sick.
• 17:03
  He's a sick player. He is, honestly.
• 17:05
  We have like stretches of like elite fantasy value.
• 17:08
  Last he was on our cell highs for for a while obviously like.
• 17:10
  Still happy that we took slash over him, but like, sometimes
• 17:14
  you watch some of his highlights.
• 17:15
  Yeah, man, that's a really good. Player and we did need a 2C, but
• 17:18
  yeah. Yeah, I feel like Cooley's can
• 17:22
  be a Jack Hughes type player. That's obviously a big jump that
• 17:26
  he has to take. I don't know if that I see that
• 17:29
  but. It's they, they were similar.
• 17:31
  I I think hers is a bit more of a of an elite prospect.
• 17:34
  But if you look, I mean, he's on a really great trajectory
• 17:38
  equally. And if he there's a world in
• 17:41
  which he really becomes the guy on this team.
• 17:43
  And then if that happens, yeah. But also like the superstar,
• 17:47
  like he could be that good. I feel like he has a skill on
• 17:50
  offensive skill set that doesn't have happy we took slap as you
• 17:55
  mentioned. There's just something about the
• 17:57
  way he plays that if you can, going to get it together in an
• 17:59
  NHL level, Sky feels like the limit.
• 18:01
  For him, and it seems like he already was last year he took.
• 18:03
  A Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Kevin said.
• 18:05
  He had some stretches of like truly elite play and that's why
• 18:07
  he was on. Ourselves.
• 18:08
  We. Didn't feel he couldn't, he was
• 18:09
  too young. Maintain it for the whole.
• 18:11
  Season 65 and 75 was great. That's unreal to really good.
• 18:14
  Was that a second year in the? League and he's getting drafted
• 18:16
  a lot later than you would expect in your in your leagues
• 18:19
  because I think people are just worried about, you know, the
• 18:21
  deployment on the power play. Yeah.
• 18:22
  Yeah, this is one of those guys that I think can be a point per
• 18:26
  game plus player this year and then no one would think going to
• 18:29
  get there. I I could.
• 18:30
  See that would rather have Logan Cooley or Connor Bedard.
• 18:33
  Colour. Guard.
• 18:34
  Oh, there. You go.
• 18:36
  I would take really just because it's a better surrounding cast.
• 18:38
  You know, if you had yeah, anyone of these 4/4 wingers
• 18:42
  instead of you know what I mean? Like.
• 18:47
  Doesn't have the guaranteed power play 1 I think that's.
• 18:49
  That's that's fair. But in my head, there's just no
• 18:51
  way that he's clearly the best player on the team.
• 18:53
  Yeah, why would he not be on P1? It makes no sense.
• 18:55
  Most likely he will be, but it's just not a guarantee and if it
• 18:58
  doesn't work out, I think he's the first one getting bumped off
• 19:01
  in terms of like for small, let's say they do start with him
• 19:03
  and probably is not working out. Yeah, I think their power play
• 19:06
  could improve this year. Last year they finished 10th.
• 19:07
  I could see them finishing within the top ten.
• 19:09
  That's how big I am and Familja is probably my top goalie target
• 19:14
  in the late rounds. As in like MY0G strategy.
• 19:17
  I especially with the news of Connor Ingram being waived,
• 19:21
  there's really no competition. The coach said they're happy
• 19:24
  with Pamela and Vanicek because they're in tandem, but it's
• 19:26
  obviously not a tandem. That's A and.
• 19:30
  To another guy. Yeah, exactly.
• 19:32
  Yeah, just one and two so so I love him like a for volume they.
• 19:36
  Showed he's actually a good. Goal.
• 19:37
  He's actually a good goalie and now finally, the team in front
• 19:39
  of him is also good. I like him a lot.
• 19:41
  I don't think I'm gonna get him because I'm really gonna try and
• 19:44
  get it at the last possible moment and.
• 19:46
  I think we're going to split between me is going to be like
• 19:48
  mountain America, but yeah, have one of each on each of our.
• 19:54
  Teams, yeah, I could see that. So.
• 19:57
  So yeah, I'm very high on all these guys.
• 19:58
  I think they're great for fantasy and I think they're
• 20:00
  going to be great in real life. For defenseman, I mean,
• 20:03
  Sergachev is obviously a clearer guy.
• 20:04
  Do you think he's a top hovering around top 10 defenseman or more
• 20:08
  like top 15? Top 15?
• 20:11
  Crack our top 10. This should be rostered too.
• 20:15
  I don't think. So The thing is there is he, he
• 20:17
  used to be valuable because he was, you know, P1 on his team.
• 20:20
  Yeah, and he would blocked also. Yeah, and he blocked also, and
• 20:23
  he's actually really insane blocking.
• 20:25
  Like he'll have games where he'll go just nuts.
• 20:27
  He'll be a guy that you stream if you need blocks exactly of
• 20:30
  getting some points. As long as circuit chip is
• 20:32
  healthy, I don't see him being worth rostering long term.
• 20:34
  Though, but that's like the second defence when I would
• 20:36
  consider on that. Team for sure.
• 20:38
  There's the guy to come in. If they're splitting like there
• 20:41
  are people on P2 like Logan Cooley ends up on PB2 the like a
• 20:45
  Lawson Krause and or a Peterka or something like.
• 20:48
  I'm still I still. I don't think that happens.
• 20:50
  I mean they're. Probably.
• 20:51
  Would you rather have their zero like I'm talking about?
• 20:52
  Like that puts him in the conversation of like, there's
• 20:55
  the Dobson. Dobson Honestly, we've talked
• 20:59
  about this with the defenseman episode.
• 21:01
  I don't like taking any defence when is not power play one or a
• 21:03
  pure banger. So that's that's kind of my
• 21:06
  opinion on those middle of the pack power play two guys.
• 21:10
  All right, this is, I cannot believe we're about to do this,
• 21:14
  but. #5 at #5 We have the Minnesota Wild last year they
• 21:21
  finished fourth. Kevin has them ranked at #3,
• 21:24
  Jake has them ranked at #4, and Josh slash me has them ranked at
• 21:29
  #6. 6 Josh. 6 Notable Powers Acrylic Kaprizov For now Matt
• 21:36
  Boldy, Joel Ericsson Ek Philip Gustafson, Matt Zuccarello,
• 21:39
  Marco Rossi, Brock Faber, Zief William.
• 21:41
  Last year, their power play ranked 20th, but it definitely
• 21:44
  didn't help that Caprice and Eric were injured most of the
• 21:47
  year. Yeah, why did I put them at?
• 21:49
  6:00 And also this was this was before we heard any of the
• 21:52
  Kaprizov news, correct? Yeah, I want, I want to try and
• 21:55
  bank on the fact that that I knew that actually had my inside
• 21:58
  sources tell. Yeah, no, obviously the team's
• 22:01
  kinda crazy cuz they should be on the up and up and getting
• 22:04
  better. They have a lot of great
• 22:06
  players, but I think they definitely don't belong higher
• 22:10
  than the top four that we have coming up.
• 22:13
  And then I'm just really high on Utah.
• 22:15
  I had to put someone to drop, but no one below Utah because I
• 22:17
  do think they're taking a big step.
• 22:18
  I think Utah is improvement over the past offseason is a lot
• 22:21
  higher than Minnesota. I don't think Minnesota actually
• 22:23
  did anything much to improve this.
• 22:25
  Offseason. I mean, they got Tarasenko.
• 22:27
  Yeah, it definitely bolsters your middle 6.
• 22:31
  I don't know. I don't think that moves the
• 22:32
  needle. So yeah, I think now you add on
• 22:36
  all the capris off stuff, I think that makes it a bit even
• 22:38
  more credible. But let's say ignoring that
• 22:40
  because we did the rankings before that, I just needed
• 22:42
  someone to bump down for Utah. I like Utah better than
• 22:44
  Minnesota this year. Called the Minnesota Mild for a
• 22:47
  reason. They were 4th last year and
• 22:49
  Caprisa played half the season and Erickson Eck was out most of
• 22:52
  the season. So how did they go from being
• 22:55
  4th last year to now having those guys healthy, adding
• 22:58
  pieces, adding a potential actual power play quarterback,
• 23:02
  and then falling 2 spots down in the rankings?
• 23:06
  I mean, Boym is a rookie. So.
• 23:09
  But at worst, it's what they had last season.
• 23:12
  Yeah, at worst what they had last season.
• 23:13
  Last season the ranked 20th in the power play.
• 23:15
  Yeah, Capris, I missed half the season.
• 23:16
  Yeah. Take off the best player on most
• 23:18
  power plays. We're gonna stumble.
• 23:22
  I don't know, I'm just not sold on them.
• 23:24
  I think they have some good pieces, obviously pizzas in
• 23:26
  superstar baldies great and Gustafson is a really solid
• 23:30
  goalie and Erickson next solid for fantasy and just like but
• 23:33
  he's more of a 2. See, I'm not buying Marco Rossi
• 23:35
  as A1C. So I don't think they have a
• 23:38
  true 1C. I think their defence core is
• 23:40
  pretty weak. It's a bunch of old guys and
• 23:42
  then Brock Faber and then William who's super young.
• 23:45
  So I don't think it's that good of a team.
• 23:46
  I think it's very fantasy relevant team but in real life I
• 23:49
  don't see them being good enough to beat the other 5.
• 23:53
  It's not crazy, but like the loads that we put them in five
• 23:56
  so it's but listen, anything can happen.
• 23:58
  I just. After Utah will take them I.
• 24:00
  Like Utah a lot better than Minnesota.
• 24:03
  I I don't think it's such a crazy take, but and remember
• 24:08
  this when you, when you RIP all my yesterday, I heard it later
• 24:12
  on how nice it was. But the truth is that
• 24:15
  Minnesota's one of those teams that on paper, with all the
• 24:20
  disadvantages that Kevin mentioned from last year, now
• 24:23
  they just theoretically would have gotten better.
• 24:26
  Now I've fallen into this trap with Nashville right from two
• 24:30
  years. Ago added like 4 free agents and
• 24:32
  tried to make it. Work, but they added, you know,
• 24:35
  they added the other guys. Here versus last year.
• 24:38
  But Utah get better by a bigger margin, so therefore they
• 24:41
  overpass them. It's about how much better you
• 24:43
  got, not just the fact you got better.
• 24:45
  Yeah, it's an arms race. If you're getting a little
• 24:47
  better and every other team in your division gets a lot better,
• 24:49
  then you're still dropping down. The road just think they have
• 24:52
  their power play will be top 15 this year.
• 24:55
  I bet my house on it, barring any crazy injuries and if
• 25:00
  Caprice. Gonna be in the top 10.
• 25:03
  Fair, but they're probably in the top ten last year and.
• 25:06
  They toss a bunch of guys who came off there like sophomore
• 25:10
  year last year who are gonna have a huge step this year.
• 25:12
  Hmm, who does Minnesota have? Who's gonna be better this year
• 25:14
  than last year, other than guys who were injured and going to be
• 25:16
  healthy? I mean, Capris will be better
• 25:18
  this year. I mean, he's already a little
• 25:20
  this year. I know they're they're still
• 25:22
  getting. Better the PowerPoint one
• 25:23
  quarterback, whoever. It is.
• 25:24
  I think Rossi will be better this year.
• 25:27
  I'm That's not as exciting as a Guenther Cooley getting better
• 25:30
  this year or acquiring a Peterka.
• 25:32
  No, that's. Yeah, but those will get better
• 25:35
  to get better and still not be as good as.
• 25:40
  I take Guenther close to Boldy. I mean, we're talking fancy,
• 25:44
  we're talking actual show. Both.
• 25:47
  That there's nobody. There's nobody you talk that
• 25:49
  comes close to preserve. No, OK Kaprizov isn't a league
• 25:52
  of his own, I'll agree with that.
• 25:53
  I think Keller is better than Boldy.
• 25:56
  Yes, fair. I think.
• 25:58
  That I put Keller compared to Kaprizov and I think I'd take
• 26:01
  boldly over Gunther. I don't know about that.
• 26:03
  I think there's gonna surprise you.
• 26:05
  I think a lot of people are really high on him.
• 26:08
  Also I take Michael. Circuit.
• 26:09
  I'm not saying I don't like going.
• 26:10
  Through I'll take circuit Chef way over any power play on
• 26:12
  quarterback. Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:15
  I don't know. I think it's.
• 26:16
  I guess if I'm breaking down, I just think that maybe their
• 26:19
  depth is a little bit better on Winnipeg, sorry on on Minnesota
• 26:23
  and you know, their 4th lines pretty good.
• 26:26
  Marcus filling on Nico Strum and.
• 26:27
  I like their fourth line. Their third line is.
• 26:29
  Their third line is man, but this guy is not supposed to be
• 26:31
  that bad. You're off.
• 26:32
  And realistically, if they end up shuffling the lines, you're
• 26:35
  off. Plays the first line, Ericsson
• 26:37
  plays third. That's a very balanced team and.
• 26:40
  I think it's going to be interesting to.
• 26:42
  See, I don't see how they put Ericson's on the top of the
• 26:44
  third line. So many times in his.
• 26:46
  Career. No, he's not.
• 26:46
  He's gonna be top six. They don't have good enough
• 26:48
  centres to. Well, maybe this year old guy
• 26:51
  can actually be pretty decent. Like I mean, he could be decent.
• 26:54
  He's not gonna jump from the top 6 this year.
• 26:57
  'S or or. Even they're just hoping is
• 26:59
  better than Marco Rossi if I'm being honest.
• 27:01
  But anyways I will see. I think this is one of my I
• 27:04
  don't I very often do these spicy takes, but this one I'm
• 27:08
  not to. Listen, I don't hate it.
• 27:09
  The more I look at it, the more I'm like I see your point of
• 27:12
  view. Also even convinced me.
• 27:15
  They look. Good.
• 27:16
  Alright. So they definitely do look good.
• 27:18
  I'm really high on Utah. Yeah, I still.
• 27:20
  Just only have two games in the finals, doesn't that?
• 27:23
  Suck. That's.
• 27:24
  So I would be taking so many of these guys if.
• 27:26
  They wasn't gonna draft any of them.
• 27:28
  I could still take the milk, I guess.
• 27:30
  Two games by goalie is kind of an average week anyways, but
• 27:34
  yeah. They're punting saves.
• 27:35
  It definitely sucks for Mike because I'm so high.
• 27:37
  On that last thing probably for them is like we haven't touched
• 27:41
  on Zuccarello or Tarasenko like any value there.
• 27:44
  Like one of those guys, he's old, but I feel he's one of
• 27:47
  those guys that, you know, gets severely under drafted every
• 27:50
  year and then performance better.
• 27:52
  Then he got shot in the balls. Yeah, whole Lance Armstrong.
• 27:57
  Yeah, so now definitely 00 interest in Tarasenko could not
• 28:01
  be less interested. He wasn't good on Ottawa's not
• 28:04
  gonna he's he's cooked and Zuccarello I'm not interested in
• 28:07
  either. I think he's finally hit that
• 28:09
  peak of too old. I think I would be surprised if
• 28:12
  Caprice of and boldly end up on a line together in the second
• 28:14
  sequel is not playing with Kaprizov.
• 28:16
  He's cooked as well. I want to give you something for
• 28:19
  zuccarello if that's OK with. You.
• 28:21
  I think I'll allow it, but let's say, well, just a couple, yeah.
• 28:24
  OK, just let me let me give you like 2 names.
• 28:27
  I like Zuccarello or Morgan Geeky.
• 28:31
  Geeky. OK, Zuccarello or Brock Besser.
• 28:36
  Besser, the Brusque. Zook.
• 28:41
  Crider. Crowder.
• 28:43
  Yeah, same as shaky Zoo Cryder. Alright, Donato.
• 28:46
  Donato. Sorry that that.
• 28:49
  Yeah, the next one. Yeah, alright #4.
• 28:54
  That was lame. #4. Yeah, at #4 we've got the Saint
• 29:00
  Louis Blues. Last year they were #5 This year
• 29:04
  Kevin has them ranked #5 Josh has them ranked at #4 Jakey has
• 29:08
  them ranked #2 Notable players Robert Thomas, Jordan KAIRU, my
• 29:13
  boy Dylan Holloway, Jordan Binnington, Colton Parayko,
• 29:17
  Powell Buchnevich, Jake. Neighbors, Jimmy Snuggerud, Cam
• 29:20
  Fowler. Last year their power play was
• 29:22
  ranked #16 jakey #2, really. Explain yourself.
• 29:29
  Well, Montgomery didn't start the season with him last year,
• 29:33
  right? Cheeky love came over mid year
• 29:36
  and he brought the best out of these players then now he.
• 29:39
  Has I've heard this, Jim Montgomery can do a lot of
• 29:41
  things physically. Physically.
• 29:44
  The way his body, yeah. Lower the drink, he's gotta
• 29:48
  crush. Yeah, alright, you could
• 29:49
  continue. The Dustin Wolf of coaches.
• 29:51
  I'll try not to laugh while saying that.
• 29:53
  Yeah. My goodness.
• 29:54
  OK, So this is just a loaded team.
• 29:58
  I don't see where their weakness really is.
• 30:00
  They've got a very good Decor, A goalie who is volatile yet good
• 30:05
  solid backup to offers, had really good stretches and on top
• 30:09
  of that, they have three very, very good lines.
• 30:13
  Yes, I see. I mean.
• 30:16
  And potential caller candidate. Yeah, there's 8-4 words that I
• 30:21
  would want on my that I'd be content with having on my
• 30:23
  fantasy team, which translates to IRL because I think they're
• 30:26
  all good. And there's also. 6.
• 30:29
  The whole first line. Snuggerud, Thomas.
• 30:31
  Buchnevich. OK.
• 30:32
  Holloway. Shen, Cairo.
• 30:34
  Oh yeah, I didn't mention. Shelby with all those guys and
• 30:36
  then neighbors, OK, even Pewter, you see her.
• 30:45
  Yeah. And this is like a good IRL
• 30:47
  fourth line, actually a very good IRL fourth line, coupled
• 30:50
  with the fact that he's just such a good coach, as Kevin
• 30:53
  said, he could do cool his body. I don't know which part I have
• 30:58
  to bleep, but I think I have to bleep a.
• 31:00
  Lot Anyways she could say this simply cannot go in.
• 31:06
  I'm just very high on this team. I think they're going to be
• 31:08
  super good and I have them over a few other teams, which I I
• 31:13
  know is going to be controversial.
• 31:14
  Yeah, that too, yes. I'm more like them too.
• 31:18
  I'm curious, I guess force fair, Kevin, you have them at 5:00 and
• 31:23
  you have. I think has Minnesota above.
• 31:26
  Them Minnesota above them. That's interesting.
• 31:28
  Do you stand by that? It's definitely close.
• 31:32
  The issue with me is I think that how the Saint Louis Blues
• 31:38
  ended the season last year is not going to be reflective of
• 31:40
  how they're going to be the whole season this year,
• 31:42
  obviously. It was a super hot.
• 31:44
  Streak it was, it was insanely hot.
• 31:46
  That's why. So I'm a little worried about
• 31:48
  not only the fantasy assets on this team, but more so I just
• 31:53
  don't know where the actual value is.
• 31:57
  It's probably not at the height of what we saw them do at the
• 31:59
  end of last year. It's probably not as bad as we
• 32:00
  saw them before they sacked the coach.
• 32:03
  So I think they're gonna be a solid team.
• 32:07
  I think they they're missing like super top end talent that
• 32:12
  other teams have superstars. Like, there's nobody on this
• 32:14
  team that's as good as Kyle Connor or Kaprizov or, you know.
• 32:20
  You really don't think Robert Thomas is in the Kyle Connor
• 32:23
  conversation? No, I don't think so as a
• 32:25
  player. Not for fantasy, necessarily.
• 32:27
  Because you're like such a Thomas Truther.
• 32:29
  Yeah, definitely a Thomas Truther.
• 32:31
  I'm not. Well, just just think about it,
• 32:34
  right? I mean, he's a good, he's a good
• 32:36
  actual player and he gets within 10 to like 12 points of Kyle.
• 32:40
  Connor before last year I would say yes, but Connor popped off
• 32:43
  last year, so that's what kind of makes me think not few Thomas
• 32:47
  in the. Same.
• 32:47
  Let's also not forget that this is the same players that were on
• 32:50
  the team last year when they were awful.
• 32:52
  Yeah. Like, obviously coaching is is
• 32:54
  huge and changing the complete trajectory of this team managed
• 32:57
  to get the best out of like Dylan Holloway and and and these
• 33:00
  other forwards. But I can see how, you know,
• 33:04
  they fall back to closer to what they were initially.
• 33:06
  I'm not saying that's what's going to happen.
• 33:08
  Yeah, of course, but. Honestly the way I see it and
• 33:11
  Jake is too high and you're too low and mines perfect.
• 33:15
  Yeah. And I and then their decor is
• 33:17
  really good. Yeah, it's a really, really
• 33:19
  solid defensive core. I wonder what?
• 33:20
  My, but it's not flashy. It's not.
• 33:21
  Flashy at all? The whole team is not flashy
• 33:24
  like they're. Pairing I feel like it could be
• 33:26
  a detriment to our team, if I'm being honest.
• 33:28
  My you and Tucker like that could be a lineup that a line
• 33:34
  that gets exposed. Cam Fowler is 33, and he's feels
• 33:38
  like very more offensive than defenseman than defensive.
• 33:41
  I really like Draco. Perico's great.
• 33:43
  Like he's a Team Canada defenseman.
• 33:45
  Yeah, he's a lot older than I expected, though.
• 33:47
  Yeah, he's 32 years old. I thought it was more like, you
• 33:51
  know, 27 or 28. Justin Faulk is on his last
• 33:54
  legs. It feels like every year we're
• 33:56
  kind of like, OK, is this? He still managed to find power
• 33:59
  play 1 somewhere. So like, yeah, the the they have
• 34:03
  a good balance of like young and and veteran.
• 34:07
  I like Broberg, but. Yeah, I I think, I think 4 is a
• 34:11
  good spot for them. I think 4 is a good spot.
• 34:13
  I just feel like, you know to me in Minnesota has more firepower
• 34:16
  and top end talent to get those extra points.
• 34:21
  But listen, would I be shocked if Saint Louis finishes 4th?
• 34:23
  I would not. Would you be shocked if they
• 34:25
  finished two? I would be shocked if they
• 34:27
  finished two. I would not bet my house on
• 34:29
  that. Yeah, I would be a gape.
• 34:33
  I just I'd be. Like.
• 34:38
  That's my bad, I think. I think between two or three it
• 34:44
  was a really close call for me. Really.
• 34:46
  Yeah, that's crazy. But yeah.
• 34:48
  Who do you want on your team from the Saint Louis team cause
• 34:50
  I feel like a lot of fantasy relevant guys, Jake said.
• 34:52
  Obviously 7 names together you want the most.
• 34:54
  Josh, I already know is your boy.
• 34:56
  Yeah, Halloween is my favorite. Obviously Thomas, I would take
• 34:59
  higher than Holloway, but I'm more excited about Holloway.
• 35:02
  Cairo I think is always solid. Buchnevich in where you got him
• 35:07
  last year on like around 12:13 as a guy who's gonna be points
• 35:09
  and no back cats. Bennington as a late goalie
• 35:13
  who's the starter on a solid team.
• 35:15
  I was actually impressed with Rico last year as a Rangers
• 35:17
  defenseman. I don't think he's going to
• 35:19
  sniff a power play time as much as he did last year, but there
• 35:22
  were a lot of injuries on defence.
• 35:23
  But I like him a lot for hits and blocks and even his shots.
• 35:26
  And then snuggle. It's kind of a wild card and I
• 35:28
  think I like that as a dart throw later on and neighbors.
• 35:30
  I've always liked his his back cats.
• 35:32
  So yeah. And Shen, like Jackie mentioned,
• 35:36
  my only thing was she is. I feel like he's just getting
• 35:37
  older every year. I mean, so we're all we all are,
• 35:39
  but. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:41
  Thinking of America? Clinton but fair.
• 35:45
  I think he's a better goalie, but I just think that Saint
• 35:47
  Louis is better. Also Suitors was really solid
• 35:50
  last year. Yep, Suitor was very good I.
• 35:52
  Mean he got put into positions to, you know, have a lot of ice
• 35:55
  time and he and he succeeded with that, yeah.
• 35:57
  I just don't see him getting the ice time on Saint Louis that he
• 35:59
  got on Vancouver. It's very unlikely although.
• 36:04
  I don't mean he's gonna be 3C. I don't know, Shannon isn't
• 36:06
  necessarily gonna stay to see they may joke a.
• 36:08
  Lot. I'd be surprised since still the
• 36:10
  captain. Yeah, yeah, I can see him.
• 36:12
  He's like the prototypical 3C on the team right now with his
• 36:16
  archetype of player. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:18
  Would you rather have Jordan Kairu or Curl Marchenko?
• 36:24
  Marchenko. Marchenko, I think, has the
• 36:26
  upside. Kyle's the safer floor.
• 36:27
  Kyra will get more shots, yeah. Marchenko was shooting a lot
• 36:31
  towards the like later in the season so his season average
• 36:34
  doesn't look as exciting but I think he's he's 3 plus shots.
• 36:37
  He can match cardio and shots. Kara Michkov.
• 36:40
  Musgrove. It's tough because you're naming
• 36:43
  guys who are like lower floor but higher ceiling, and I like
• 36:46
  going for the. Ceiling.
• 36:46
  You know, I just think that this team is going to be above
• 36:50
  averaging goals, above averaging goals against and because of
• 36:53
  that it's just gonna create a lot of wins for them.
• 36:55
  But the reason I would take Michael or the reason I would
• 36:56
  take Marchenko is because I think those teams are gonna
• 36:58
  score more. They're always going to let in
• 37:00
  more goals, you know what I mean?
• 37:01
  So they're gonna have to score to shutdown team, which. 1.
• 37:04
  Person that's close to me, yeah, probably.
• 37:08
  I got the backwards too. OK, let's go to the next one.
• 37:11
  But as a team, I'm very high on Saint Louis.
• 37:14
  All right #3. #3 We've got the Colorado Avalanche last year,
• 37:19
  they ranked #3 Josh and Jake have them ranked #3 but Kevin
• 37:25
  has them ranked #4 want, want. I love me some Nate Dogg.
• 37:28
  Yeah, some notable players you may have heard of.
• 37:31
  Nathan McKinnon, Michael McCarthy, Mackenzie Blackwood,
• 37:33
  Marty Naches, Val Nichushkin, Gabe Landeskog, Brock Nelson
• 37:37
  last year. Their power, they ranked #8 in
• 37:39
  the league. These are just some absolute
• 37:41
  bangers of a notable players list, how could you possibly
• 37:44
  drop them down to #4? I mean, we saw them kind of.
• 37:48
  We saw the the kinks in the armor last.
• 37:49
  You put Minnesota above Colorado?
• 37:52
  Yes, that's crazy. Alright, listen, Minnesota's
• 37:55
  been on the up and up, you guys, You guys are forgetting how good
• 37:58
  Minnesota was as a team. But I think Colorado, we've
• 38:01
  seen, you know, they're vulnerable side lately.
• 38:04
  He got paid by Big Romaine. Well, it seems like.
• 38:11
  I, I, I like this Avalanche team, obviously, like I, I think
• 38:15
  they have a lot of good players. I think obviously the step down
• 38:18
  from Renton into Nahs is worth worth mentioning in terms of
• 38:21
  like getting the best out of McKinnon, but he's top tier
• 38:23
  study either way. Are we?
• 38:28
  Talking about you dare talk about about nature.
• 38:34
  And I mean, there's always the health concerns with the
• 38:36
  Trushkin, like, can you stay healthy?
• 38:38
  Can you stay on the ice, first of all, Yeah.
• 38:41
  Or if you like a little bit of that sniffy sniff sniff.
• 38:46
  Nelson is a 2C actually like but is still a question, right?
• 38:50
  Like he's old Landis cog. What are we going to get out of
• 38:53
  Landis? Cog, that's going to be an
• 38:54
  interesting one. That's a lot of interesting guys
• 38:56
  on here. I forgot to mention like an in
• 38:59
  as well. And I'm just going to say
• 39:01
  they're decor. Besides, that first pairing is
• 39:04
  definitely up for debate. Like.
• 39:07
  A car tape which obviously elite.
• 39:09
  Elite tandem in the whole league, but then after that you
• 39:11
  got Middleton and Josh Manson, Malinsky and Brent Burns.
• 39:14
  I don't think that this is like the main Middleton.
• 39:17
  No, this is Keaton Middleton. Not even, not even a good one.
• 39:20
  Yeah, no, I think you meant. To put.
• 39:22
  Gerard, what's the Jonah Hill movie where it's like the girls
• 39:28
  like near OHS, I forget which one.
• 39:30
  Anyways, she's like, oh, you look like Dennis Quaid.
• 39:32
  It's like Randy Quaid. Maybe you know that.
• 39:35
  It's a 21 jump. Street, that's what it is.
• 39:40
  Gerard Gerard is gonna miss most of the training camp and he
• 39:43
  like, should be ready for the start of the season, so I guess.
• 39:45
  You heard? That well, the Roger.
• 39:46
  Brother be missing, might be missing some of training camp.
• 39:50
  I did. For goalie, how much do you read
• 39:52
  into that? I mean, I already wasn't gonna
• 39:54
  take him cause he's gonna get taken so high so it.
• 39:56
  Doesn't. Maybe if we go into the draft
• 39:58
  and he has a little questionable time next to him like his name
• 40:00
  might he? He might fall.
• 40:01
  Yeah, he could definitely fall. If he falls out, I'd snap.
• 40:04
  Him it's a lower body injury like those things kind of linger
• 40:07
  depending what it. Is a history of injuries.
• 40:09
  We talked about what stopped him from being such a goal in the
• 40:11
  past. Do you pick up a Wedgewood like
• 40:13
  at the end of the? Draft.
• 40:14
  They literally have a wood port. They also have a guy named Ivan.
• 40:20
  Ivan, just do it. Because you have to draft Hella
• 40:25
  Buck in the first round and then Scott Wedgewood with your last
• 40:28
  pick. So you got you got the upside of
• 40:29
  both. Little goalie sandwich.
• 40:30
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's such a fun thing
• 40:33
  to do. Yeah, I wouldn't do it because
• 40:35
  this is serious business, but it's a fun idea.
• 40:39
  Yeah. Yeah, I obviously think that
• 40:41
  this first line is fantastic. Lacking in is gonna be a monster
• 40:45
  this year just. Being attached to Power Play 1.
• 40:48
  So I. Get some PowerPoint 1 so.
• 40:54
  And two of those three are on power play.
• 40:55
  One one of them is missing out. Obviously McKinnon, Mccarran,
• 40:58
  NHS are the locks. Yeah, I think, I think nature is
• 41:01
  McKinnon, Mccarter, the locks, the last three.
• 41:03
  So then, yeah, like you said, Nichushkin Landeskog, like.
• 41:06
  Honestly I could see like an end being bumped off.
• 41:09
  We had the same conversation last year, licking and started
• 41:11
  on it. Then intuition got phased into
• 41:13
  it. Yeah.
• 41:15
  Hot take. I think they're going to put all
• 41:16
  this in there. Impossible.
• 41:19
  It's not impossible. That's almost or whatever it
• 41:22
  was. Possible.
• 41:25
  You'll see. Why would they put all this in
• 41:27
  there ahead of? There's no chance.
• 41:29
  He's a PowerPoint specialist. Since when?
• 41:31
  It's every team that he was on, like when he was on Buffalo,
• 41:34
  that's what he did. On Vegas, he did.
• 41:36
  That so the guy that they signed for one year at 1.5 million,
• 41:39
  they're gonna put on baby one ahead of ahead of the captain
• 41:43
  that's coming back. And he'll like it.
• 41:48
  We'll see. We'll.
• 41:49
  See, yeah, so anyways, I see, I see the chicken Landeskog, but
• 41:52
  it's going to be kind of a revolving door, especially
• 41:54
  because all three of those guys are so injury prone.
• 41:56
  It'll be whichever ones are healthier on power play 1.
• 41:59
  And feel like is going to be a value in drafts like he always
• 42:02
  gets drafted in like the love me some big value the later rounds.
• 42:06
  1520 games, but for the games he's there, he's gonna be.
• 42:08
  Sick would you take? I'll take care.
• 42:13
  Like just in the same round. If it's like, would you rather
• 42:17
  have who's gonna, who's gonna be better for fantasy this season?
• 42:22
  Overall, Kairu but on average is like a tiny chicken being
• 42:25
  better. Yeah, but I just think he's
• 42:26
  gonna play fewer. Games when it comes to it
• 42:28
  though. It's like no one want Karen
• 42:29
  there when they're healthy and under team.
• 42:31
  Who would you rather have? Healthy and on my team, I'll
• 42:33
  take Nichushkin. Yes, same.
• 42:35
  But you can't really say that. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 42:38
  It's like you need that guy. Goes a couple rounds after Cairo
• 42:42
  rather taking the chicken in the.
• 42:43
  Nichushkin or Slough? Slash.
• 42:46
  Slash, OK and interesting, Barzal.
• 42:49
  I agree. Oh, that's close.
• 42:52
  Yeah, disclose. Yeah, that's just gonna deal.
• 42:54
  Holloway. Holloway.
• 42:55
  Holloway, baby Holloway. Holloway.
• 42:59
  Marsha so. This you skin.
• 43:03
  I will say this is a very top heavy.
• 43:05
  Team it is. That's what I'm saying.
• 43:06
  That's why they struggled last year like they they had to claw
• 43:09
  back into it after they got a goalie because you're just
• 43:11
  leaking goals, right? So.
• 43:12
  I mean to be fair though, they finished the season third
• 43:15
  overall and that's with Georgiev having started the season with
• 43:19
  them. For 1/3 of the season they had a
• 43:20
  literal empty net. For third season, they.
• 43:23
  Still finished third overall, so as long as black would stay
• 43:25
  healthy. And honestly, Wedgwood is a
• 43:26
  serviceable backup as well. So yeah, unit Blackwood misses a
• 43:29
  bit of time here and there. They've got some wood in that,
• 43:32
  so OK, but. We we we can move on without
• 43:36
  talking about marine natures because he's the talk of the
• 43:38
  town. We always mention his name like
• 43:40
  but we actually what's a realistic outcome from Martin
• 43:43
  nature? Like where?
• 43:44
  What do we expect this year? How many points?
• 43:46
  What I expect from natures is let's say like 90 to 95 points.
• 43:50
  That's insane. Let's say 2.5 shots and .35
• 43:57
  power play points. I can't get on board on the 90
• 44:00
  points 9095. Why?
• 44:02
  I get he. I think he's easily cracking a
• 44:04
  point for game. He's playing with McKenna and
• 44:06
  he's gonna be stable to him. They had such great chemistry.
• 44:08
  95 is too high for me. I think he can do.
• 44:10
  OK, but let's say. 99 Is there a higher chance that's nature OK?
• 44:15
  Is there a higher chance than nature hits 120 points or that
• 44:17
  all options on this power play 1?
• 44:20
  120 points. OK, that's what I like.
• 44:23
  To hear you're going to be defending all of that.
• 44:27
  Here, when you see all of a sudden on that power play the
• 44:29
  first day, just remember you. Guys, OK, Can I give you some
• 44:31
  names then, because natures or Tage Thompson, Natus.
• 44:36
  I'm going to go to Thompson for the shots.
• 44:38
  Give me T. Can I just say 11 quick thing on
• 44:40
  ages before we go to the names? Yeah, the real fear I have with
• 44:42
  him is that he's too good and going to be separate from
• 44:46
  McKinnon. I'm not worried about all.
• 44:48
  This Antonin and Landeskog and him like and McKinnon they had
• 44:53
  is like a trio that they never separated.
• 44:55
  Are you saying this is because I'm not saying that?
• 44:57
  Differences that Landeskog is not what it used to be and
• 45:00
  they're gonna have to like they just can't.
• 45:02
  They don't have three players that are that good anymore.
• 45:04
  I know is there. I think we have enough good
• 45:08
  players that Nature said McKinnon just had such great
• 45:11
  chemistry last. Yeah, so it's Noah.
• 45:12
  He's so if that's the case, then that means that we and I agree
• 45:15
  that nature is likely sticking with McKinnon all year.
• 45:18
  You can now go ahead with your, would you?
• 45:19
  Rather than all of you. If you think nature is getting
• 45:21
  90 points and you should take him above most of these guys
• 45:24
  like Natures or Jake Guentzel. Gensel has the has the shots
• 45:30
  niches I think is gonna get more points.
• 45:32
  It's my only thing when matches. I don't like his shots.
• 45:34
  I looked at his historicals and he's never gone above 2.5 shots.
• 45:38
  So that's pretty much what you can expect from him.
• 45:41
  So but I would still take it. I think the points upside is
• 45:44
  there. What about Kempe?
• 45:46
  Natures, yeah, it's basically. I need to find where the line is
• 45:50
  for Jake. Yeah, I keep going.
• 45:52
  It's like the Reinharts, the Kyle Connors of the.
• 45:54
  World. Really.
• 45:55
  Them I would take over niches. So you're taking an anxious
• 45:58
  third round. Yeah, cuz Kyle Connor will get
• 46:00
  90 points like that. He got 97 last year.
• 46:03
  Better. Yeah, way better shots.
• 46:05
  That's why I believe, like I'm saying, those are that's the
• 46:07
  line. Around what you're saying is the
• 46:08
  difference between Connor and Natures is like 50 to 70 shots
• 46:13
  and that's the only thing stopping you from taking him in
• 46:16
  the second round? No, I'm saying like I take Kyle
• 46:18
  Connor. Oh yeah, just yeah, I.
• 46:20
  Understand like then that next. Year, Connor.
• 46:22
  The second round. Pick.
• 46:23
  Give me the names around there and I'll tell.
• 46:24
  You like OK Boldy. Natures.
• 46:27
  OK. I mean Nielander.
• 46:31
  They just gonna get more points than body, but it's again, the
• 46:33
  shots is my one thing. With the number had 84 points
• 46:37
  last season. Yeah, I'm taking.
• 46:38
  I think that's that's a perfect line where I really just don't
• 46:42
  know. But I think I would take
• 46:45
  Milander just because the ceiling similar and the floor is
• 46:49
  higher for calendar. And he shoots.
• 46:50
  More. Yeah, that's where I'm really.
• 46:52
  Kind and then the second round. Yeah, yeah, you said you take
• 46:55
  him a third round. Yeah, that's exactly it.
• 46:58
  Connect early in the third. Round we're connecting.
• 47:00
  You teenagers over connecting OK.
• 47:03
  Yeah, this is like a serious, serious potential to be an
• 47:06
  amazing Forsberg. I would take Forsberg, yeah.
• 47:09
  There's just too much going on. But in a points league, I would
• 47:12
  take natures. Yeah, for sure.
• 47:14
  I feel like that's worth mentioning because I really
• 47:15
  think natural nature, I think nature is gonna get 100 points
• 47:19
  this year. My realistic outcome is 90 to be
• 47:22
  fair, but I really. Then you take him in the second
• 47:25
  round. That's exactly it.
• 47:26
  I mean, I feel like that's. Reasonable in a second.
• 47:29
  I could like. Very likely 4th, 3rd. 4th is
• 47:32
  possible. I mean if you like him that much
• 47:34
  I don't know if I would risk it. It depends who you'd have to
• 47:36
  give. Up, yeah.
• 47:37
  But you thinking natures are Dylan Holloway because we talked
• 47:40
  about you taking the hollow in the third.
• 47:42
  That's a good question. No, I I never saw take hallway
• 47:44
  that hi, I love Holloway, but I'm not taking him as high as
• 47:46
  you guys think I am. I like.
• 47:49
  You lied to us. I never said those words in my
• 47:51
  mouth. I'm digging niches over Holloway
• 47:53
  just for the points. And The thing is that like
• 47:56
  Holloway is not like a massive shooter.
• 47:57
  What's the shots and hits combo that makes it so good?
• 47:59
  So it's not like it's really just points versus the hits.
• 48:04
  And they just are Ovi. OHK.
• 48:07
  OK, that was a good one. Yeah, basically.
• 48:10
  Basically the line is knee Lander.
• 48:11
  That's really where I'm like, I just don't know.
• 48:14
  You name one person better than Nylander on your list.
• 48:16
  I just wanna. See one person better than
• 48:17
  Nylander. Like similar archetype, not like
• 48:20
  Crosby or anything like that. Or Brayden Point.
• 48:23
  I would take over point bark, but that's that's a tough one
• 48:27
  cause that's like a league specific thing with centres.
• 48:29
  But Barkov I would take over niches.
• 48:31
  OK, that's that's Barkov. Nielander Niches is like kind.
• 48:35
  Of that's for. Brat, I would take notes for
• 48:37
  Brad. Really.
• 48:38
  Yeah, I'm taking over each. It's the exact same type of
• 48:41
  player, but I think Brad gets more points and points it's a
• 48:44
  little. That's like such an exact same
• 48:46
  archetype. Neither of them shoots much.
• 48:48
  It's really just about who you think is getting more points.
• 48:50
  Yeah, I just, I think nature is a dog this year.
• 48:54
  If you don't just under team, I'm gonna be severely
• 48:56
  disappointed. Yeah, there's.
• 48:57
  So am I. That's the point.
• 49:00
  I mean, we were going to. End up with him like that where
• 49:03
  you're valuing him, I think. Yeah, I got.
• 49:05
  Him in the 3rd and it's the. 3rd, the third round, I feel
• 49:09
  like that's reasonable. I can get him there and I'm
• 49:11
  happy with it. I really want him.
• 49:13
  I think he's just going to be a stud.
• 49:15
  So I think he's gonna be really good too.
• 49:16
  I don't think it's crazy that that you're taking, I feel
• 49:18
  almost more of a fourth rounder than 1/3 rounder, but.
• 49:20
  I think he gets between like 80 and 88 points ish and I think
• 49:26
  he's gonna hover around two shots A.
• 49:28
  Game for number 88. Yeah, exactly.
• 49:30
  And I think maybe 30 of those are on the power play and, and
• 49:35
  it's good. We all know he's going to be
• 49:37
  great. The question is just how great
• 49:39
  and would you take him? And obviously he's the highest
• 49:41
  of all of us. But I think it's gonna.
• 49:42
  Be sneaky value. I think he's low key tied to
• 49:46
  making the whole season. It's just the power play that
• 49:49
  I'm worried. I think without power play I
• 49:51
  don't really want him on. My Kevin, do you want to haggle
• 49:53
  or niches? I asked him that.
• 49:55
  Hagel. Like fully like fully haggle.
• 49:58
  Wow. Hagel will most likely be my
• 50:00
  third round pick. Hagel third round damage in the
• 50:03
  4th. Yeah.
• 50:05
  See, on paper that feels like more of a reach because power
• 50:08
  play one last year, but it it's not because he will have it this
• 50:11
  year and it could be an amazing. Yeah, these are two guys.
• 50:15
  Their injuries so his only competition for people.
• 50:17
  What is gone? Exactly.
• 50:19
  We gotta move on to the next year, but this is just such a
• 50:22
  sick fantasy team. Yeah, very.
• 50:24
  Excited about it. I mean I might end up with my
• 50:25
  cars. My first pick would be
• 50:27
  interesting for sure. There will be interesting all
• 50:29
  right #2. And #2 we've got the Winnipeg
• 50:32
  Jets, last year they ranked number one.
• 50:35
  Josh and Kevin have them ranked #2 Jakey has them ranked at #5
• 50:41
  is. Out of all the rankings that
• 50:44
  we've ragged on Jakey for, this is the most egregious.
• 50:47
  One, is it more egregious than Saint Louis had?
• 50:48
  Two, Yes. OK, Yeah.
• 50:50
  I'll go through the notable players and then I'll roast
• 50:52
  Jakey. So notable players, Connor
• 50:54
  Hellebuyck, Kyle Connor, Mark Shifley, the GOAT, Gabe Vilardi,
• 50:58
  Josh Morrissey, Cole Perfetti. NHL power play ranking from last
• 51:01
  year one #5 You couldn't just drop them like to #3 You know,
• 51:08
  that would be like, OK, fine #50. 4 I'm like oh.
• 51:11
  Yeah, you have to go 55, probably not making the.
• 51:14
  Playoffs. Yeah.
• 51:15
  So, OK, fair. I mean, I know that that sounds
• 51:19
  crazy, but let's be honest. They won the Presidents Trophy
• 51:21
  last year. Yeah, I know.
• 51:22
  And. This is the best goal in the.
• 51:25
  League they're that's exactly what I was going to say.
• 51:27
  Their success is extremely contingent.
• 51:30
  Yeah, yeah, no. So their success is extremely
• 51:36
  dependent on Hellebusch. They had the best PowerPoint
• 51:39
  league. And they, well, they got rid of
• 51:42
  Ellers, which is a part of it. I mean, he was good, right?
• 51:46
  And there's also the fact that now they're second line centre
• 51:50
  is Jonathan Tays, who hasn't played hockey in five years.
• 51:52
  That's the only question mark obviously, which I would
• 51:54
  understand bumping them down to three or.
• 51:56
  Four. Yeah.
• 51:57
  And you know, last year did they have someone decent centre?
• 52:02
  I think it was Vilardi, sometimes he played there.
• 52:04
  No, he was on that line 1. Week I don't even know who their
• 52:07
  centre was, but I just like to me that this.
• 52:09
  Yeah, it was. It was that line of No.
• 52:11
  It was that line of Perfetti. Who was it?
• 52:15
  It was Perfetti. Was it pretty?
• 52:17
  Neither writer Lowry. Was that the line?
• 52:19
  Line 2. Yeah, Freddie and healers were
• 52:21
  line 2. Yeah, so maybe, maybe Lowry ends
• 52:23
  up there again, who knows, But it's just this team is clearly a
• 52:28
  team that can do wonders on the power play and that has an
• 52:31
  amazing goalie that is the. For that reason, they're. 5th
• 52:36
  that is. That is the 2 in my opinion,
• 52:40
  very difficult things to depend on sustaining going into a
• 52:44
  season. That's really why I have a team
• 52:47
  like Saint Louis, which has a lot more depth, extremely well
• 52:50
  coached, and just less star power.
• 52:53
  They don't have a car corner, they don't have a.
• 52:54
  Shit but then how do you justify like another horse goal is worse
• 52:57
  power plays and less talent? They're more robust.
• 53:01
  I mean, I just don't know what to say.
• 53:03
  I guess They've got a decent third line, this team, The Jets.
• 53:08
  But if if Hello Buck is 80% as good as last year, which still
• 53:12
  makes him like a top three goalie in the league, just not
• 53:15
  enough disputed top one, then that really changes things
• 53:18
  because he was so good. Like so so good.
• 53:22
  I anecdotally, I just remember the games he had that he stole
• 53:26
  for them. He would save like 35.
• 53:28
  Shots, Yeah, he was like, he can't.
• 53:30
  Depend on a goal way to do that. You want everything else.
• 53:32
  Here, look, maybe, maybe this is just what it is.
• 53:35
  Maybe he is just going to get it.
• 53:37
  There's another third year in a row and a Hart Trophy again and.
• 53:41
  Then suck in the playoffs. Again.
• 53:42
  Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's what it is.
• 53:44
  Or maybe they learn from what happened in the playoffs.
• 53:48
  Maybe they don't play them as much.
• 53:49
  Maybe they try to make the playoffs and not be the
• 53:53
  Presidents trophy winners. Like these are all
• 53:55
  possibilities. I don't love this team on paper
• 53:58
  as much as you guys do, I think. But I acknowledge their stars.
• 54:02
  I mean, I'm very happy to have Velardi, chiefly Kyle Connor
• 54:05
  Perfetti on my team. Hello.
• 54:07
  What's the best goalie? How about your team?
• 54:08
  There's no question about it. Josh Morrissey is a top
• 54:10
  defenseman, so Neil Piyong for Vengers leaves and Luke Shen for
• 54:13
  Bangers leagues. Don't sleep on Dillon Sandberg
• 54:16
  course fantasy relevant to this season as well.
• 54:18
  And he got paid. This is a good team.
• 54:19
  All that money, baby. I just wear, I guess I just have
• 54:22
  the other teams higher than them.
• 54:24
  Saint Louis I'm very very confident in and then the Wild,
• 54:29
  I guess Jets. And while they're kind of a toss
• 54:31
  up, after Josh kinda gave us his synopsis on the Wild, I'm sort
• 54:35
  of considering re ranking Wild and Jets.
• 54:37
  Yeah, I would also rerank them if I could.
• 54:39
  Why they realize I was so convinced.
• 54:41
  Yeah, well, especially I mean if Kaprizov.
• 54:44
  Gone. Yeah, there's no question.
• 54:46
  About. It but yeah, I like my avalanche
• 54:49
  Blues over Sorry, I like my. A lot of teams over the Jazz.
• 54:56
  Half the division. It basically will know Avalanche
• 55:00
  Blues and Wild ISM maybe and then the number one team there's
• 55:03
  no question. Yeah.
• 55:04
  But yeah, that's. It I listen, I think the biggest
• 55:08
  question for this team is there 2C I think that's the biggest
• 55:11
  glaring weakness that they have for sure.
• 55:12
  But I. Think Jonathan Taves is gonna be
• 55:14
  worth having in a face off when league?
• 55:15
  Because when before he left the league he was really he was
• 55:18
  double digit faceoff wins towards the end of his tenure
• 55:20
  when he was pretty bad. He was still restorable in face
• 55:24
  off when leaks because of that double digit so I could see him
• 55:26
  being. Rostered.
• 55:26
  I can see him being like a Jordan stall.
• 55:28
  Like what? It's always fantasy.
• 55:30
  Is that slight least did some other back?
• 55:31
  Cuts, yeah, but he would like honestly was less than you
• 55:33
  expect. It's like 1.
• 55:35
  Yeah, but whatever. I could see tapes being like
• 55:37
  literally zeroes other than double digit face.
• 55:39
  Off, yeah, it doesn't question basically.
• 55:41
  Yeah. Yeah, I don't.
• 55:44
  I don't. Be a stream like on a week where
• 55:46
  you need face off wins you'll. Stream honestly, it's and this
• 55:49
  is kind of just like a like a bad thing to say, but I think
• 55:52
  what's gonna happen is gonna come play a few games and just
• 55:55
  realize, OK, I know I can't keep up anymore.
• 55:57
  You think? Yeah, it's sad because you're
• 55:59
  such an amazing player, right? Yeah, Yeah.
• 56:01
  And look, maybe he proves us wrong and becomes Jonathan.
• 56:05
  Honestly, really, I think at this point he already has to
• 56:09
  know where his mental is going back, coming back to the league,
• 56:13
  because they're going into the season now with him as the two
• 56:15
  see, yeah, like you can just be like 2 games like I'm out and
• 56:18
  leave them hanging like that. Yeah, I don't think it'll be his
• 56:20
  choice to leave. I think if if he can't keep up,
• 56:22
  then the team will be like, alright, we need to bump you
• 56:24
  down or scratch him or. Whatever.
• 56:26
  Yeah, exactly. And it's just a function of his
• 56:29
  age and the fact that in like 3 years.
• 56:31
  Yeah, exactly. You don't play in three years at
• 56:34
  24 to 27, it's hard to come back 34 to 37.
• 56:38
  I mean, come on, you know, it's just not realistic.
• 56:41
  He's getting paid more money than Victor Olofsson, so.
• 56:44
  So powerfully. Wanna hear you?
• 56:46
  Yeah, you know, fantasy wise though, it could be a fun round
• 56:50
  dart throw to be honest, because like like I I think he's not
• 56:53
  getting. My really think he has no value
• 56:54
  outside of face off. Wins and yeah, yeah.
• 56:57
  It's probably yeah. In all likelihood, I agree.
• 57:00
  I just. That's a fun.
• 57:02
  Name type that you put on your watchlist because of the name
• 57:04
  and you wait and see if something happens, but probably.
• 57:06
  Not but I I really don't think anything's gonna come with.
• 57:09
  It but the main question for me is they have a lot of depth,
• 57:13
  like their third line is honestly probably one of those
• 57:15
  stronger third lines in the league.
• 57:16
  Their defensive course great. They have a great goalie.
• 57:20
  They have the best power play. So I mean, I definitely disagree
• 57:24
  with Jake putting them at 5:00. I can see them finishing second
• 57:26
  or third. Maybe you know, some presidents
• 57:28
  cup slump for the year after. They just kind of want to make
• 57:32
  the playoffs and make a statement in the playoffs.
• 57:34
  Like shocked at 3, but there's no other dropping out of the top
• 57:37
  three division now. I can't see them finishing
• 57:39
  outside of four. Like, there's just no way.
• 57:42
  Alright, should we go to the last one?
• 57:44
  Yes, yeah. Number one at #1 we've got the
• 57:48
  Dallas Stars. Last year they ranked #2 and
• 57:50
  unanimously, we rarely agree, all three of us, but we all have
• 57:54
  them at #1 Notable players Mikko Rantanen, Jake Ottinger, Jason
• 57:59
  Robertson, Roope Hintz, Mike Johnston changing, even Thomas
• 58:04
  Hartley. Mirror.
• 58:05
  He's getting Tyler Sagan. Last year they ranked 17th on
• 58:08
  the power play. That's actually worse than I.
• 58:10
  Expected, yeah. But yeah, it's like you said,
• 58:12
  you can name almost their whole team as fantasy relevant.
• 58:15
  Again, that's we've spoken about the too many mouths to feed all
• 58:17
  that. It's going to be interesting.
• 58:20
  Mikko Rantanen should be taken probably 12th overall in a lot
• 58:25
  of leagues. I would say something.
• 58:27
  Around Is he going to be the Rantanen of Colorado, the
• 58:30
  Rantanen of Carolina, or the Rantanen of Dallas in the
• 58:33
  playoffs? Gonna be interesting to see.
• 58:36
  It's a very, very big question mark because until last year he
• 58:39
  was like 7th or 8th overall. Yeah, this, this is the the best
• 58:43
  team on paper in the league. I have no qualms in saying that.
• 58:46
  I think that they have so much going for them.
• 58:49
  It also honestly makes you think like how the hell can they get
• 58:52
  all these players on one team? Yeah, and all their guys are
• 58:54
  locked in for eight years. The only guy who they haven't
• 58:57
  locked in yet is Jason Robertson.
• 58:58
  Yeah, he's getting traded. I guess we'll see.
• 59:02
  I think Neil will find a way to keep him.
• 59:04
  It's. For the right price.
• 59:07
  Yeah. It's going to be fun to see what
• 59:10
  they could do this year just on the ice.
• 59:13
  I think they're gonna like be the league leader in goals for
• 59:16
  goals scored. Robertson has been quote UN
• 59:20
  quote disappointing. Still basically getting a point
• 59:21
  per game, you know, just off his 109 point high from three years
• 59:26
  ago. But he's pretty good.
• 59:27
  I mean, he's kind of an Iron Man.
• 59:28
  He's played every game for the last three years.
• 59:31
  Rantanen was insane. Insane times. 1000 billion in
• 59:36
  the playoffs is the most ridiculous thing ever.
• 59:39
  He was a moose. Yeah, love Wyatt Johnson, always
• 59:41
  have, always will. Don't worry.
• 59:42
  And party, you're still my #1 But yeah.
• 59:46
  And you know, Maverick Burke could be your kind of a little
• 59:48
  surprise too. I mean, you spoke about all the
• 59:50
  players. Yeah.
• 59:50
  I don't think he's, like, worth mentioning in that list because
• 59:52
  you have so many elite guys. But yeah.
• 59:55
  And another thing I have a feeling Kevin wants to bring up,
• 59:59
  and I'll. I'll swoop in the power play, 1
• 1:00:01
  defends, win. Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  I'll talk about Thomas Harley. Yeah, I just, I call me crazy,
• 1:00:09
  but I still think he's gonna be powerfully 1.
• 1:00:11
  Yeah, that's the the risk of this team is twofold for fantasy
• 1:00:15
  picking any of these guys knowing that that line won't get
• 1:00:19
  a point yet they could still win 50 in the game, which doesn't
• 1:00:22
  happen on Colorado, doesn't happen on Tampa Bay, but here
• 1:00:26
  it's. Awful team and that team wins.
• 1:00:28
  Like score seven goals and the guy doesn't get a point.
• 1:00:30
  It's like the better it could be ranted in this year rather than
• 1:00:33
  next game. They win 40 and he gets 4
• 1:00:35
  points. It's going to be so volatile and
• 1:00:36
  annoying, but it's the nature of picking such an amazing team and
• 1:00:39
  the power play 1 defenseman. I just kind of want to stay away
• 1:00:42
  from that cause I don't know how it's gonna.
• 1:00:44
  Go, I'm not touching either of these guys.
• 1:00:45
  Thing with Justin is even if he's power play one, we've seen
• 1:00:47
  him be terrible for fantasy even.
• 1:00:49
  He's not a good fan so. Him, he's just worse than
• 1:00:52
  previous years because he has that uncertainty.
• 1:00:54
  Harley's great with power play, one we should have last year he
• 1:00:56
  was really good, but I just don't know how do you how do you
• 1:00:59
  bump skin in like in real life as the.
• 1:01:01
  Coach, they did it last year. But was because he was injured.
• 1:01:04
  So Harley came in because he was injured and then did a good job,
• 1:01:07
  so they don't want to mess with it right in time for playoffs
• 1:01:08
  when he came back, I think. But now they have the whole
• 1:01:10
  offseason again. I think Harley is a really
• 1:01:13
  highly touted, you know, player. We saw him get called up for the
• 1:01:17
  Four Nations as well. Like the NHL likes him as a
• 1:01:20
  player. He's only 23 and he's already
• 1:01:21
  put a stamp on like the international scene.
• 1:01:24
  I think. I think he's just a great
• 1:01:25
  player. I think they saw what he did on
• 1:01:27
  P1. It would be crazy for them to
• 1:01:29
  not, you know, know that he's better than he's going in that
• 1:01:32
  spot and also roll with that. Like this team wants to win a
• 1:01:34
  championship. They're not.
• 1:01:35
  They're not about the pleasantries.
• 1:01:37
  Of appeasing like their top guyer has been for years.
• 1:01:40
  And it's not like he's a particularly defensive
• 1:01:41
  defenseman like his. He's a great, he's a great
• 1:01:44
  defensive. Defenseman he's not saying he's
• 1:01:45
  bad at it, but like his game is his offence also like he's he's
• 1:01:50
  not just one he's not like a slave in he's.
• 1:01:53
  He's not. A pure, he's not a pure
• 1:01:54
  offensive defenseman either, but that's a big part of his game is
• 1:01:58
  his offence. So I just don't know how you
• 1:02:00
  bump him down for Harley. But I guess if I'm thinking of a
• 1:02:03
  comparable, you can look at Ottawa with Shabbat having
• 1:02:05
  gotten bumped down for Sanderson.
• 1:02:07
  So it's not out of the realm of possibility.
• 1:02:10
  Yeah, the difference is that Sanderson was drafted to be that
• 1:02:12
  guy. Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  And I'm still on the side of of I think Harley's gonna be the
• 1:02:16
  the starter there. It's, it's just really
• 1:02:19
  interesting to see because. Harley's getting drafted with
• 1:02:22
  people assuming his power play. One that's not, that's not where
• 1:02:25
  I want to draft him because it's not 100%.
• 1:02:27
  Certain they were going back-to-back end draft would
• 1:02:29
  hardly getting the edge on being ahead of Hakkinen.
• 1:02:33
  I'm I'm comfortable taking Harley wherever he's getting
• 1:02:36
  drafted. I feel like right now they're
• 1:02:37
  both kind of getting drafted in the middle of the pack because
• 1:02:39
  there is that uncertainty. Yeah.
• 1:02:41
  But if anybody is going to like if he's going to get people one,
• 1:02:45
  he won't be valuable. If hard to get people, he will
• 1:02:47
  be valuable. Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  So I think like Take the Shot and Harley.
• 1:02:50
  Elections one or the other. I'm definitely taking Harley on
• 1:02:52
  my team. I wouldn't touch he's getting on
• 1:02:54
  my team this year especially, but in past years as well.
• 1:02:57
  But like Thomas Harley or John Carlson.
• 1:03:01
  I'll give me Harley because Carlson also is not guaranteed
• 1:03:03
  power Play 1. OHS take Harley as well.
• 1:03:05
  OK, Harley or Dougie Hamilton. I'm probably taking Hamilton
• 1:03:12
  there. OK.
• 1:03:13
  Yeah, I'm more confident in Hamilton's power play. 1 and
• 1:03:16
  Hamilton has the great. Shot cause though I know
• 1:03:18
  Hamilton is going much higher, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:19
  So Harley or McAvoy? Macavoy.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah, I like McAvoy. He's all good.
• 1:03:24
  Back not plus minus league, Yeah, clear, but yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Another another name here that jumps out on this list is Matt
• 1:03:35
  Duchene, right? Last year he had an unreal year.
• 1:03:37
  He was on our top trap players. This year I think he's gonna
• 1:03:40
  regress big time. Everybody has him regressing.
• 1:03:43
  OK, cool. So it's not a hot take.
• 1:03:45
  No, it's not. Kind of agrees.
• 1:03:46
  OK, here's another one that I think I might have a different
• 1:03:50
  opinion than you guys. I'm a bit lower on Wyatt Johnson
• 1:03:53
  than you guys are, I think. I think that he's going to be on
• 1:03:56
  line 3 at even strength, really. Three power play 1.
• 1:03:59
  I think it's gonna be on line. Where does?
• 1:04:01
  Where does he make it? Like Line 2 last year was
• 1:04:04
  Duchane, Sagan, Marshman, right? Yeah.
• 1:04:07
  So you think Johnston takes March into place?
• 1:04:10
  I think he centres line too. Yeah, to Shane sagging.
• 1:04:13
  Dushane was the centre last year.
• 1:04:15
  Yeah, but he doesn't need to be centre.
• 1:04:17
  Jump to the wing. Yeah.
• 1:04:19
  I guess I could see. That I think Jamie Benn is the
• 1:04:22
  classic, you know, line, line three guy for.
• 1:04:24
  Them I was seeing was thinking Dushane, Ben and Sagan would be
• 1:04:27
  aligned to. Ben no, I don't think so.
• 1:04:29
  OK, I. Think.
• 1:04:31
  Listen, anything can happen. We're still far out from the
• 1:04:32
  season, but my expectations? Why online?
• 1:04:35
  To the fact that we think Duchene and Sagan are taking a
• 1:04:37
  step back. I don't.
• 1:04:38
  I'm not excited about Johnston's even strength deployment.
• 1:04:41
  PowerPoint one is gonna be sick, like no doubt about it, but I
• 1:04:43
  think he's getting taken as a guy who's got the power play 1
• 1:04:47
  and a great even strength deployment and I'm just not that
• 1:04:49
  sold on it. Include that with her whole too
• 1:04:51
  many mouths to feed argument and I just don't view him as the
• 1:04:54
  top. I view as the third best forward
• 1:04:56
  on this team after Ranting and Robertson.
• 1:04:58
  That's fair, but Raton and Robertson are both going to play
• 1:05:01
  on the wing, barring, you know, the face off here and there,
• 1:05:04
  whatever. And because of that, I concede
• 1:05:08
  Johnston essentially having a role on that top sex no matter
• 1:05:11
  what. Yeah, I know you're kind of
• 1:05:13
  saying you see men for me, I see Johnston for sure.
• 1:05:16
  And if it's not working with Duchenne and say if they are
• 1:05:19
  regressing because of that, maybe the team is not winning
• 1:05:22
  with they should be winning, then they're going to flip up
• 1:05:25
  the lines and put Duchene line 1 and it will be Robertson,
• 1:05:28
  Johnston, Sagan. That's not bad.
• 1:05:29
  Or even Ranton and Johnston Duchene.
• 1:05:32
  That's pretty cool too. Yeah.
• 1:05:34
  You know, like these things could.
• 1:05:35
  Work ended up, yeah, I think in my mind, Ranson Robertson hints
• 1:05:38
  was the clear line 1. It should be, but you never
• 1:05:41
  know. I mean, yeah, if Robertson has
• 1:05:43
  no stranger to slumps. Would you rather have Robertson
• 1:05:46
  or why Johnson? I'm taking Robertson.
• 1:05:48
  I think I'd rather Johnston. OK.
• 1:05:52
  How about you? I'm going Robertson.
• 1:05:55
  And you're the. You're the and the Robertson.
• 1:05:57
  Robertson heater, Yeah. But it's just because Robertson
• 1:05:59
  is gonna have that line 1. Exactly what I wanna know where
• 1:06:02
  you guys actually value. Why Johnson?
• 1:06:04
  They're like, why Johnson or Drake Batherson?
• 1:06:07
  Johnston. That's a tough one.
• 1:06:13
  I think I go Bathurst and honestly.
• 1:06:15
  That's pretty low, Josh, in terms of like the names.
• 1:06:18
  I was starting at the bottom there, so like Johnson or Kevin
• 1:06:21
  Fiala. Johnston I'm not taking Fiala
• 1:06:24
  again after the last. Year in the second-half,
• 1:06:26
  Johnston. That's tough.
• 1:06:30
  I like Myers potential ceiling if he gets power play one over
• 1:06:33
  Johnston and the back hats like I'm actually in the draft.
• 1:06:38
  You're round four, round 5. I guess I'd probably still go
• 1:06:42
  Johnston because power play on Dallas is gonna be sick, you
• 1:06:44
  know? Call their Johnston.
• 1:06:47
  Coffield. Coffield, Coffield.
• 1:06:52
  But it's why Johnson or or Eric Sinek.
• 1:06:55
  I would say John, I take Johnston.
• 1:06:57
  I'm done with Ericsson. I had him last year and it was.
• 1:06:59
  It's so bad because it's such a bad move to Fiat.
• 1:07:03
  Think about how you get a guy, he gets injured that year, has
• 1:07:06
  his worst year ever, and then you go into next year like, I'm
• 1:07:08
  not drafting that guy again. And that's a terrible mentality
• 1:07:11
  to have. You have to go clean slate and
• 1:07:13
  forget about it. But it's also a lot easier said
• 1:07:15
  than done, right? The guy burned me so hard last
• 1:07:17
  year that I just don't want anything to do with.
• 1:07:18
  Him Alright, last one because we also didn't talk about this
• 1:07:21
  player when we spoke about Winnipeg and I feel like we
• 1:07:22
  haven't talked about this player all season, but why did Johnson
• 1:07:25
  or Mark Shifley? Shifley.
• 1:07:26
  Shifley. Yeah, I know you're gonna.
• 1:07:28
  Say that nobody's talking about Marshfield right now.
• 1:07:30
  He's in that middle ground where he's like, you know, I feel like
• 1:07:33
  not as good as Suzuki Robert Thomas, but he's not that far
• 1:07:37
  off from being in the same tier. Yeah, I think you might get him
• 1:07:39
  like a round or two. Later, yeah, but like, I never
• 1:07:42
  picked Mark Shifley. Yeah, last year I actually had
• 1:07:44
  him as a target and it just didn't workout with my.
• 1:07:46
  Draft and he was sick last. Sick.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, been a great pick. Can I ask you both, starting
• 1:07:51
  with Josh, how do you spell Shipley's last name?
• 1:07:54
  Sche. Kevin.
• 1:07:57
  JB. Actually, right, Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  I stare at this seems way too much.
• 1:08:06
  I have my spreadsheet I'm constantly looking at.
• 1:08:08
  I think I could name, I think I could spell like almost any name
• 1:08:11
  off. The top Yeah.
• 1:08:11
  How do you spell Ivanov? What about in Domestic class the
• 1:08:18
  mechanic? Gov N AM ESTNIKOV, that comes
• 1:08:24
  after the that tricks you. It's in the mess.
• 1:08:26
  Nickel. That's what I said.
• 1:08:28
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  OK, everyone. Carter Verhagen.
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  Thank you to everybody for listening to our breakdown of
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  the Central Division. Hangings.
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  And our spelling bee. Exactly.
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