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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars select C. J. Henderson, defensive back Florida. That
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  Speaker 1: was asious about three times. You know, they felt very well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very smart and very athletic, and you know I'm
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  Speaker 1: planning us that working very hard on the field, and
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  Speaker 1: you know in the NFL as well, I worked hard
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  Speaker 1: respect case signs linebacker L s U And my best
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  Speaker 1: attitude right now is western quarterback. I feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: um when it when all it got, UM, put me in,
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  Speaker 1: let me put my ears back to get to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like my versatility is so so critical backers,
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  Speaker 1: the corner and the safety or whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 1: UM playing like that a critical in today's game, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like my versity allowed to do that. But
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, whichever the Jaguars want me to play,
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  Speaker 1: I'm willing to do without even hesitation. Welcommended to the
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  Speaker 1: in NFL Draft is in the books, and the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: have twelve players. Yes, they picked all twelve of the picks.
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  Speaker 1: That was the conversation going in and they might, you know,
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  Speaker 1: put some package some picks together and either move into
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  Speaker 1: the next year's draft or move up a spot or two,
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  Speaker 1: like Dave always likes to do. Well, none of that happened.
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  Speaker 1: That they have twelve players they've got to get come
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  Speaker 1: in here for training camp, John, And that's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of some Molson Jaguars history. In terms of the draft. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the no trades parts donned me. I mean I I
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  Speaker 1: I assumed that we'd be talking about nine or ten guys.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think they were gonna I never had any
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  Speaker 1: illusion that they were gonna package and try to get
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  Speaker 1: up in the top ten, which would have taken second
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  Speaker 1: round pick away or a third round anythink they were
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  Speaker 1: doing that. But I figured they would move from the
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  Speaker 1: fourth round into the third, from the third round into
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  Speaker 1: the second. And they didn't at all. So that's uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was surprising. But at Dave called well,
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  Speaker 1: clearly bought into this being a deep draft and he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to come out with twelve players that they liked. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he stuck to a plan. They stuck with it. He
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  Speaker 1: said it was a little tight in terms of get
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  Speaker 1: a little anxious sometimes, but he did it. And you
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  Speaker 1: know I didn't go over all they got better, Bryan
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  Speaker 1: and too. A couple of things that stood out to me.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, they believe in Gardner Minshew. Look, I
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  Speaker 1: kept beating the quarterback drum because I said, the confluence
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  Speaker 1: of draft choices and talent, they had the capital to
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  Speaker 1: go get one of these elite quarterbacks and they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, maybe that's because they didn't like them enough,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe that's because the cost to go up was
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  Speaker 1: too hot. I don't know. Um, it wereried me because
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  Speaker 1: you know, the three best your quarterbacks in the game
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  Speaker 1: are Mahomes, Watson and Lamar Jackson, and they're all in
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  Speaker 1: the a f C. Now, the three quarterbacks that were
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  Speaker 1: off the board here this weekend a f C. So
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  Speaker 1: for you to pass on them, it means they've got
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  Speaker 1: confidence in Gardner Minshew. I don't. I don't think there's
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  Speaker 1: any way around that. They may not know league, but
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  Speaker 1: they must believe and and Jake grud must believe that
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  Speaker 1: they can be productive with Gardner minshow So, that's the
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  Speaker 1: first one that that stood out to me. John. The
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  Speaker 1: second one was, Look, they needed to do something upfront
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  Speaker 1: because the uncertainty of unique and got way. They need
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  Speaker 1: to do something in the backside of that defense, because
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  Speaker 1: the two corners that we thought were the cornerstones were gone, um,
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  Speaker 1: and they needed to give Minshew a weapon while they
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  Speaker 1: did that with the first three picks. If those guys
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  Speaker 1: find meaning peoful rules, I think they're much better. And
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  Speaker 1: the other guys, if they're well coached and at all,
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  Speaker 1: this could be a a cornerstone draft for this football
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  Speaker 1: team because there's a lot of really good football players
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  Speaker 1: in there, maybe not ready to contribute at a high
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  Speaker 1: level right now, but guys who will get some coaching.
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  Speaker 1: So I just think when I look at twelve players
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  Speaker 1: and I read their bios and I hear their coaches
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  Speaker 1: talk about them, the guys who played with them before,
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  Speaker 1: I think that this was a really good draft. And
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  Speaker 1: people may go, what do you mean by that? It's
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  Speaker 1: really good? They got better, they got better players to
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  Speaker 1: help them and on and actually, you know on this
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  Speaker 1: one too, Um. The character thing is important because this
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  Speaker 1: locker room wasn't. Even though there's some good guys that
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  Speaker 1: JP you can wait in on this, there were some
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  Speaker 1: guys that were problematic. They were they were prickly, they
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  Speaker 1: were hard to deal with. For both teammates and media.
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  Speaker 1: And they may have red really good players, but you
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  Speaker 1: always just had this kind of rub that that corner
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  Speaker 1: of the locker room where this side of the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay away from there today because I just
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  Speaker 1: don't need to deal with that crap. Um. Well, most
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  Speaker 1: of those guys are gone, so now you're bringing all
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  Speaker 1: these good guys that will definitely make a difference. Yeah, Brin,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's very, very obvious that that was
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  Speaker 1: a huge emphasis in this draft, and we're on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: and we're tweeting about it, and I know fans are
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, well, that means they're not talented. That's
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  Speaker 1: not the case. But we all know what the issues
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  Speaker 1: were in the past few years. They're really trying to
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  Speaker 1: stay away from that. You can't keep continuing this trend
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  Speaker 1: and hope to win with players like that in your
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  Speaker 1: lock and you're gonna have to change at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Doug Brown told us at the very end of this
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  Speaker 1: draft he looked at last year's draft class, but Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: d J. Chart Gardner, Minshew to Wan Taylor, all guys,
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  Speaker 1: when you go in the locker room, you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you can go up to talk to them, be honest,
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  Speaker 1: you have a normal conversation that goes a long way.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're seeing similar traits in this year's
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  Speaker 1: draft class that they're all going in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: I think a couple of things there. JP. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if they're gonna go down, they're gonna go down with
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  Speaker 1: the guys they want to be around. That's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing, I think it's time. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 1: Dave called the world talks in the off season, he's
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  Speaker 1: meaning what he says, meaning every nobody believed last year
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  Speaker 1: they weren't taking a wide receiver early. It didn't take
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  Speaker 1: one because he said he likes his guys. He did
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  Speaker 1: the same thing at the comment and the saying the
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  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl about the offensive line this year, and nobody
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  Speaker 1: wanted to believe it. I never thought they were going
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  Speaker 1: offensive line early because they liked Cam Rabinson there on
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  Speaker 1: the left side, and they didn't target anybody in free
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  Speaker 1: agency with the offensive line for some reason. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that the group has played to this level.
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  Speaker 1: They believe they can win with this offensive line. They
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  Speaker 1: believe Camera obviously gonna be fine on the left side,
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  Speaker 1: and they believe. I guess that another year together is
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  Speaker 1: going to do it. Um. I get why fans would
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  Speaker 1: be skeptical over that because they were times last year
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  Speaker 1: with the offensive line didn't look great. But it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be up to this group, and Doug said it a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times fulfill the faith they have in it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a major topic moving forward. Brian, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt, um this offensive line. To me, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the right way to say it is.
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  Speaker 1: They never dominated. They never seemed to impose their will
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  Speaker 1: on the opponent. You know, if if they could run,
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  Speaker 1: they ran, and if you know the opponent gave them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the room to pass block they did. But
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  Speaker 1: they didn't put their hands on the ground like Doug
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  Speaker 1: Morne likes to talk and and impose their will. Not
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  Speaker 1: because they're not physically capable, right, I mean, you look
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  Speaker 1: at the size of these guys, and and Andrew Norwell
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  Speaker 1: was all pro a couple of years ago, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they don't hand that out to a guy who had
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  Speaker 1: a pretty nice season. So I don't know why. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they see that makes them say it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Maybe it's all on Cam Robinson and
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  Speaker 1: maybe they think that knee is going to be completely different.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, um, but you're right John there. If
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  Speaker 1: they were going to panic, they would have panicked in
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  Speaker 1: this draft because there are a bunch of good tackles.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back in a moment and we'll
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  Speaker 1: delve into some of the draft picks. Pick some of
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  Speaker 1: our favorites, some of the best players, some guys to
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  Speaker 1: watch out for it in the months ahead. That's all
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Draft Daily Podcast. Spe Shadwick, Bryan Sexton, John Osier,
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  Speaker 1: Ashton Sullivan. Were coming down the home stretch of our
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  Speaker 1: coverage for the weekend. Here uh twelve players in two
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  Speaker 1: first rounders, a second rounder and third rounder, three fourth rounders,
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  Speaker 1: two fifths to sixth and a seven, and a partridge
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  Speaker 1: in a peara tree. A lot of players coming into
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  Speaker 1: this locker room coming up, but I will ask each
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  Speaker 1: of you to bring out your crystal ball. I know
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  Speaker 1: there's one probably in your set back there. Brian john
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  Speaker 1: you have one, Ashland. There's probably one below the lamp
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  Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, the magic eight ball. Bring that out too.
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  Speaker 1: Who will be at the end of the day, five
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  Speaker 1: seven years from now, the best player overall out of
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  Speaker 1: this draft class, Ashland go for. I think he's gotta
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  Speaker 1: be Collin Johnson. I think he stands out in the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver group, and I know that they also drop
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  Speaker 1: him another wide receiver. But just talking to him, the
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  Speaker 1: confidence he has, and I think he was very underrated
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  Speaker 1: in this draft class, that big body that the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: don't really have right now. I think in three years
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about similarity to what we talked
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  Speaker 1: about with d J. Chark, that big jump he made
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  Speaker 1: from year one to year two. I see the same
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  Speaker 1: thing out of him. Good family, good character, just wants
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  Speaker 1: to play. But that big body right now that the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars don't have a wide receiver, Johnny O, what's you
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  Speaker 1: got for us? But better be c J. Henderson because
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  Speaker 1: he's the first pick in the number nine overall pick.
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  Speaker 1: So if it's not, then then something's something ate, right
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  Speaker 1: j P. But um, I'm gonna go for the sake
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  Speaker 1: of the conversation with Chalt and I get the schlem
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  Speaker 1: lights Colin Johnson. But Chanald is a guy that we
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen around here in a while. The physicality, the
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  Speaker 1: ability to make plays in the open field, they really haven't.
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  Speaker 1: There were times in Justin Blackman's b time where he
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  Speaker 1: would catch the ball and he just looked like a
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  Speaker 1: monster out there. And they've had playmaking at the wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver position, but I don't know if they've had that
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  Speaker 1: element where there's a guy that you're just scared to
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  Speaker 1: get in his way, a man's man and uh so
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  Speaker 1: to speak. So I'm excited to see how that translates.
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  Speaker 1: It's also interesting that when we asked Keeno McCardell about it,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna trickering. Some of these guys w can tribute
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  Speaker 1: right away because of the O t a situation that
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  Speaker 1: gonna be your tual training camp. But he said because
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  Speaker 1: of his physicality and because of the way he plays,
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  Speaker 1: that he's a guy you can get the ball, he
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  Speaker 1: can just make plays. It may be a quicker learning
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  Speaker 1: curve and a quicker ability to contribute for him and
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  Speaker 1: maybe some of the other guys. What do you think, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with John C. J. Henderson had better
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  Speaker 1: be that guy because they took him number nine overall,
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  Speaker 1: and and he's a skilled guy. And it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: argue with Chanel because he would have been a top
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  Speaker 1: ten pick had he not suffered through some injuries in
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  Speaker 1: his junior year. So let me just go with the
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  Speaker 1: esoteric pick. And I'll go with Josiah Scott. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: everything I read about him, and I didn't see Michigan
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  Speaker 1: State play at all this year, um, but everything I
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  Speaker 1: read is that he is an elite tackling cornerback. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have great size, he's got great catchup speed. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But he's tough, he's a hard worker, he's smart, understands
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  Speaker 1: the game, and I just I like that, And I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a guy who is when you look at it,
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  Speaker 1: on face value, d J. Hayden's going into what his
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  Speaker 1: eighth year. This looks like a replacement for d J.
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  Speaker 1: Hayden at some point. You know, a guy who could
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  Speaker 1: play inside, who's smart and tough, can handle all the traffic,
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  Speaker 1: right because those nickelbacks, they've got guys coming at him
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  Speaker 1: from all angles. They've gotta be smart, they've gotta be tough,
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  Speaker 1: they've gotta be quick. So I'll say that Josiah Scott
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  Speaker 1: a couple of seasons from now, we'll look back and
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  Speaker 1: say that was a really good pick because he is
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  Speaker 1: a foundation piece on the Jaguars defense. Give me Caleb
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  Speaker 1: and Chase on to go out with Josh Allen and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see Unique and away. And as we said on
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  Speaker 1: a previous show this week, if they can get all
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  Speaker 1: three of those guys on the field, look out and
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  Speaker 1: that would help all three of those guys. But Chasaw
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  Speaker 1: has the ability to do a bunch of different things,
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  Speaker 1: and that's my pick. Guys. Let me can I throw
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  Speaker 1: a question out here real quick? So what happens with
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  Speaker 1: Leonard Fort and Unique gon Quay? Make the call, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these are two guys who heard they were
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  Speaker 1: going to be traded or at least that they were
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  Speaker 1: on the trading block and now they're not. Now something
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  Speaker 1: could happen. They could be offered something, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: July when training camps might open um, and they might
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  Speaker 1: make the move for one draft. But I mean, John, what,
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  Speaker 1: what kind of interesting story do we have with these
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  Speaker 1: two guys. It's fascinating from what Dave said on Thursday night,
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  Speaker 1: Dave callwell, it doesn't sound to me like they have
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  Speaker 1: any inclination that got Quay is not going to be here.
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  Speaker 1: He's either going to be here or he's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be anywhere. So I'd be surprised at this point if
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  Speaker 1: they get a trade done within Goquay And to me,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't trade or they didn't draft
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  Speaker 1: a running back today, Uh, for it's gonna be here.
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  Speaker 1: So these are the two guys. Um. I don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about Unique. If he shows up, he'll show up to play.
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  Speaker 1: He showed it last year. I think he's a guy
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  Speaker 1: who gets very angry when he's not here. When he's here,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he has a problem being around coaches
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  Speaker 1: and players, and you can insulate him to that. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: he's mad at the front office. But he can insulate
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  Speaker 1: it too that if he shows up, he'll play for
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  Speaker 1: net too. It's too important to his career for him
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  Speaker 1: not to play hard. He's not gonna be mad about this.
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd be fine with both of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: along as everything else around him is going well. Dip.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta think that if in Goquay showed up to
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  Speaker 1: play for two point to five million last year and
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  Speaker 1: wasn't happy, he'll show up for seventeen point a million
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  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. I mean he put it all on
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  Speaker 1: the line last year and got through it for for
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  Speaker 1: the two million dollars, So we'll see what happens. Final
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  Speaker 1: thought here, Ashley, You're gonna bring us home. You had
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  Speaker 1: a chance to sit down one on one with each
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  Speaker 1: of these draft picks over the last three days. What
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  Speaker 1: was your favorite moment, your favorite story backstory person to
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  Speaker 1: deal with over the last three days, and which one
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  Speaker 1: stood out the most for you? The one that stood
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  Speaker 1: out the most is definitely Tyler Davis, the tight End.
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  Speaker 1: If you go on Jaguars dot com now you can
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  Speaker 1: see the war room call. We were able to have
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak to him moments after that war
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  Speaker 1: room call, and when you watch that video, you'll see
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  Speaker 1: how emotional he is. And he really was still very
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  Speaker 1: emotional when we talked to him today. And coach Maroon
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  Speaker 1: said after the draft in his press conference, he said,
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  Speaker 1: the first round is great, the second round is great,
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  Speaker 1: but days like this the third day, make it really
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  Speaker 1: grateful that you cover something like this because these are
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  Speaker 1: the guys that it was honestly a toss up. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't know if they were going to get drafted or not.
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  Speaker 1: So you really see the emotion out of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Davis, his mom kept screaming in the phone. We
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  Speaker 1: had to say, you know, mom, come on, like we're
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  Speaker 1: doing an interview here. Just the raw emotion you get
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  Speaker 1: on day three. First round so exciting, but it's so
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  Speaker 1: different the day three because days like this these guys,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it changed their life for everyone, but these
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  Speaker 1: guys they really didn't know what was gonna happen. Whereas
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  Speaker 1: round one, you know you're gonna get drafted, it's just where.
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  Speaker 1: So that definitely stood out to me as Tyler Davis's
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  Speaker 1: interview in that war room call were pretty cool, good stuff.
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