Latest / The Whitfield Report / TWR Monday | President Trump The Peacemaker: Part I
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- 1:00giving off Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and
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- 1:17I am your host Sam field broadcasting your live from
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- 1:27Florida. A bit unusual for me to be doing
- 1:31a live show on a Monday evening but you know, I kind of figured
- 1:38that with today's, you know, news cycle, it would be worth it
- 1:45honestly, and you know, man it's been a it's been a, you know, a
- 1:56whirlwind of the news day, all ready and you know, lots of
- 2:02stuff to get to go over first and foremost though, shout out
- 2:07to Craig, in the chat who says first And then he says shit
- 2:15piss. Fuck you know, c word cocksucker
- 2:20motherfuker and tits. So there you have it.
- 2:27You know. I always classy the, you know,
- 2:31the engineering you know division of the fake untied
- 2:36podcast, which by the way, shout out to the fake untied podcast.
- 2:40They do great stuff over there. And you should definitely check
- 2:45out. the the guys over the fake and I podcast Evan Steve and
- 2:54Craig they usually broadcast either on Saturday nights or
- 3:02Sunday nights over on odysee. They it really kind of depends
- 3:11on the time. I don't think it's really like
- 3:14They're kind of like us on Wednesdays.
- 3:17They don't like announced the time, I think they just kind of
- 3:22go live, but Anywho. Craig, if you want to jump in
- 3:28the show at some point, feel free to I if you can't That's
- 3:36understandable too. Regardless.
- 3:38Tonight's episode is probably going to be like a two-parter
- 3:42with tonight's show, you know, being one part and then you
- 3:51know, the the the the second part of the show, Being. you
- 4:00know on Wednesday night and real quick Craig I think I I think I
- 4:10added to the full support group chat, if I'm not mistaken when
- 4:15the link is in there, but I will ping you.
- 4:17If you do want to come in later on, But regardless, or anytime.
- 4:25But regardless the big news of today, folks, obviously, for
- 4:29those who, you know, have been online and all, I guess it's
- 4:34kind of one of the big shows over the weekend.
- 4:37The big news over the weekend, rather.
- 4:43Is that? Trump. got a, Got a piece
- 4:52agreement essentially between Israel and Palestine or more
- 4:59specifically Israel and Hamas. and, There was a rather.
- 5:07A long press conference. Today that was like, every
- 5:14stream I've seen. On everybody.
- 5:17It's like it's close to like three hours long.
- 5:22So I don't know if that's like how long the speeches are.
- 5:25Just how long the live streams are so since you know most news
- 5:29networks don't, you know, were like hot out Clips but
- 5:35regardless, I guess the first Part of a piece agreement was
- 5:41reached. And there is video which I will
- 5:48play here of you know, the the Israel hostages I'm going home,
- 6:00Megyn Kelly actually put out like a really good compilation.
- 6:05On that, which I will. You know, play here in a bit but
- 6:11first off. I just want to say, like, on a
- 6:15personal note, We've we've been covering, you know, the the
- 6:23whole Israel Palestine situation since first broke.
- 6:28Back. almost two years ago about a week after the October. 7th 7,
- 6:407th and I had my friend. And edged.
- 6:45A an American living in Israel, she came on the show, To kind
- 6:56of. discuss, you know, her perspective on Israel.
- 7:05As just like an ordinary. Citizen and what that was, um,
- 7:12you know what, what that's like and you know what, life in
- 7:17Israel. Is like, you know, ordinarily
- 7:21understood day-to-day, and then how the, you know, conflict and
- 7:26just the, you know, kind of the never ending conflict kind of
- 7:29seems to shave life. She's been in Israel since I was
- 7:35since she was that. Like, I think 19 or 20.
- 7:39Um, so she's been there pretty much her entire adult life,
- 7:44although she didn't grow up in the states.
- 7:46The reason why I bring her up in particular is because when I had
- 7:52her on the on the podcast, um, you know, one of the big topics
- 8:02that we kind of discussed is, do you think, you know, a peace
- 8:08deal, whatever about be possible?
- 8:11and, she said, That. in all reality, you know, she didn't
- 8:21think it was PAW possible, like she's very she's very I guess
- 8:28Pro Mega, you know, she's a big supporter of you know, president
- 8:35Trump and she's pro Israel obviously but You know, one
- 8:41thing there too. She was.
- 8:49You know, at the time she was very hesitant and so, you know
- 8:53today, I'm sure she's ecstatic. with kind and with the results
- 9:01and like, I gotten talked to her in a while, but just kind of
- 9:08you're having that back on where, like a lot of people were
- 9:12Really kind of Beyond whether or not you know or whatever be a
- 9:15piece deal in. You know, Israel.
- 9:24In this conflict. And then the fact that it
- 9:26happened is up pretty Pretty grown breaking and historic and
- 9:33you know like I said this is kind of breaking news today.
- 9:38So I'm sure that by Wednesday's show will have, you know what
- 9:43more time to kind of digest the news on this.
- 9:52Up. So yeah, kind of want to just
- 9:54jump in here and Start off by playing this clip.
- 10:00I know it, it's from CNN but Regardless, this was a pretty
- 10:07clean. you know, footage of, you know, Trump arriving In Israel
- 10:17and kind of just a quick summary of what.
- 10:23Been going on. So let's take a look at this.
- 10:27In Parts here. And yeah, from Bangor Airport,
- 10:33as I Tel Aviv that, of course, is Air Force One.
- 10:35President Trump is expected to arrive there very shortly.
- 10:39This after addressing the Israeli Parliament, the knesset.
- 10:45On this historic. And by the way, I did choose CNN
- 10:49on purpose, actually because, um, You know, like even even the
- 10:58corporate media has to kind of admit, this was a good move.
- 11:03On Trump's part. A day a day, when all 20 of the
- 11:13remaining living hostages who had been held in Gaza for 738
- 11:17days. They are now free.
- 11:21During his speech, the knesset president Trump was greeted by
- 11:24really a thunderous standing ovation.
- 11:29You hear the gavel right there. This after the US broker a
- 11:33ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
- 11:35The president called the quote, the historic dawn of a new
- 11:38Middle East, let's listen to a brief moment of that speech.
- 11:44President achievement virtually. The entire region is endorsed
- 11:48the plan that Godzilla. Will be immediately deep
- 11:52military rise that Hamas will be disarmed.
- 11:56And Israel Security will no longer.
- 12:04If you don't. Okay, and that's pretty much the
- 12:09the club by one and two. share their Uh, the ad can fuck off.
- 12:22But regardless, so yeah. Even Hillary Clinton. was saying
- 12:32that this was a You know, a Monumental moment. you know,
- 12:40like that's that's, Saying something.
- 12:47And I had that whole up. Let's see.
- 12:55I had that hold up here. You see if I can find again.
- 13:03Hey. Okay.
- 13:13Yeah, here it is. so, um, So, uh, David Harris, Junior on the
- 13:2711th? um, And like, yeah, like I said,
- 13:35this this happened over the weekend.
- 13:41Okay, you're you're right. You are right.
- 13:48We would yeah we we covered the guy situation.
- 13:53Uh on this past week show, and by the way, like just like uh,
- 14:03people know, like I know people Give me crowded.
- 14:08It's like, why do you prefer Steve?
- 14:10Why do you prefer Craig over? Steve on the fake, on the fake
- 14:15and what podcast in? It's because well it's because
- 14:19of stuff like on this past on this past week episode of the
- 14:24playground. Yes.
- 14:26Steve was trying to do a, what a what about is the well Hassan
- 14:33might have been just like to use a shot call on his dog because
- 14:40I've had to use a shot a color. On my dog.
- 14:44And it's like yeah, but Steve has tons of piece of shit and
- 14:51You're not. You're just smarmy at times but
- 14:55you're a good dude. on the other hand, though, like I, I will say
- 15:02it's, it is kind of ridiculous that you know, out of everything
- 15:10I saw as said like, You know. you know, calling for like
- 15:18murder of Capitalists. And you know, not so suddenly
- 15:27like you know praising Charlie Kirk's death like yeah, it's
- 15:31it's like it is kind of ridiculous and absurd that You
- 15:36know. like assassination that that's fine with like, you know,
- 15:42like You know, beating your beating your dog like you know,
- 15:47that's what gets them. Upset.
- 15:51And so yeah. Like I I do kind of get like the
- 15:54whole thing of and trust me like I'm a dog lover, it's kind of
- 15:57like really like, The dog with the shot collars.
- 16:04What irritates you guys? But Hassan like calling for the
- 16:10murder of like capitalists and, and by the way, like You know,
- 16:16other consort of streamers Like Yours, Truly, you know, that's
- 16:21not forget that. he, you know, he hasn't named me in
- 16:25particular, but You know, I'm assuming I would be in the
- 16:30category of people, he wants to get rid of butt.
- 16:34Anyway, I digress. like I was saying, apparently held half
- 16:43frozen over, because The wicked witch.
- 16:49Hillary Clinton. Actually praised.
- 16:56Trump. And yeah.
- 17:01This was a real, holy shit. Moment in all honesty.
- 17:11So, uh, Yeah, here you go. There's let's see what I held I
- 17:24guess to say and David Harris is, right?
- 17:26I certainly didn't have Hillary Clinton.
- 17:30Praising president Trump for the Israel.
- 17:32Hamas deal on my bingo card. She's either trying to get out
- 17:35of Jail or the war or the Lord. Returned as well as near well.
- 17:42That is true. and boy, like, I know I'm about to give her
- 17:50credit for some stuff but like, Really, she has she looks
- 17:57horrible. Uh anyway, though, a really
- 18:03significant first step and I really commend president Trump
- 18:09and his administration as well as Arab leaders in the region
- 18:14for making the commitment to the 20-point plan and seeing a path
- 18:22forward for what's often called the day.
- 18:24After most importantly, the conflict hopefully will end with
- 18:31the ceasefire. The hostages will be returned
- 18:35and then the very hard work of rebuilding Gaza of finding the
- 18:41kind of security that Israel and the Palestinians after Hamas
- 18:46deserved to have moving forward with the other points in the
- 18:50plan, to try to create an opportunity for Palestinians to
- 18:56have a better life and for Israel to have greater Peace and
- 19:00security. I am very hopeful that will be
- 19:04able to see progress today is a good start, but we have to keep
- 19:08going from here. And there you have it.
- 19:12Hillary Clinton actually. Not being.
- 19:20An insane. so, so path, like my Murder right.
- 19:26Right there. Um, so yeah, I guess how really
- 19:33have frozen over. Yeah, I mean this is some of the
- 19:43like the best news I've seen you know, really since this whole,
- 19:51you know, we're always in the trolley, correct thing happened
- 19:54and as have pointed out, like, this is exactly the type of
- 19:59thing that, you know, That like Charlie Kirk would have wanted.
- 20:05Now obviously you've got people like Candace Owens who are going
- 20:09to like bitch and moan about this thing.
- 20:15You know, Non-Stop. but, You I, you know, I think this is a good
- 20:25place to start. So then president Trump later
- 20:32on, in the day, I think he's. Yeah, he was in Egypt today as
- 20:43well. And he was asked about like
- 20:46phase two of the Israel Hamas. He's dealing.
- 20:51So he he talked about that. and so, uh, We will.
- 21:02Let's take a listen to that as well.
- 21:05So, two, and let me get my Likes situated, okay.
- 21:14No crime. Oh my God, he left the guy
- 21:30hanging. Well yeah, that's an amazing.
- 21:36Like I think nobody seen before. And we had tremendous staff, as
- 21:41you know, and Israel. And now, We're in a country
- 21:45where a friend of mine is a very powerful leader. and my friend
- 21:49is right here, the president to also the general, you know, In
- 21:56Israel. Just now you're talking about a
- 21:59possible Iran, peace deal. You said we are ready when you
- 22:02are is that the ultimate goal with today's signing to get
- 22:07enough. they've been battered and bruised and you know, Big
- 22:20sanctions. As you know, tremendous
- 22:21sanctions. I'd love to take the sanctions.
- 22:23Can you? Please tell us what the next
- 22:31steps are. Now.
- 22:45But they're looking for bodies out.
- 22:53And they'll they're gonna be finding quite a few of them,
- 22:57president Trump. Can you tell us when phase two
- 22:59of the negotiations will begin. What started?
- 23:02I mean it started as far as we're concerned Facebook
- 23:05started. And you know, the faces are all
- 23:08a little bit mixed in with each other.
- 23:09They're gonna start cleaning up, you're looking at Gaza He's a
- 23:15lot of cleanup. That's why when I talk to my
- 23:18speech, I talked about the debris.
- 23:19I use the word debris, that's debris times 10.
- 23:23So we're gonna, they're gonna really do a job.
- 23:27They have a lot of power and another room, you have the
- 23:30wealthiest of the wealthiest nations in the world.
- 23:34All leaders, the big leaders are here.
- 23:37Your mirrors, the Kings and everybody and it's a very
- 23:41interesting group, I guess we have like 35.
- 23:44Countries. And that's all it because they
- 23:46were the 35 that we invited everybody that we invited kids,
- 23:50thank you. Titles here.
- 24:13And what we need to do now is to fixate the ceasefire.
- 24:17Make sure that it means is this thing.
- 24:21Okay. Now we Can deliver all of the
- 24:25remaining the bodies of medicines to the families?
- 24:30And this is very cool. To bring in more humanitarian
- 24:34systems into the strip and working very closely.
- 24:46There's a good man. So yeah, there you have it.
- 25:02You know. Pretty, pretty good news day so
- 25:09far which is which is good because things have kind and boy
- 25:13around here. now, there's been various you know, but it was of
- 25:22the Hostages being released. And let's see.
- 25:34Where did I put that one? Okay.
- 25:37Ah, yeah. Um Megyn Kelly on her show
- 25:46today, and I don't want to show that often, but she did
- 25:52Chronicle some of the Israel, hostage.
- 25:58Stories. So I think this is worth taking
- 26:03lesson. One of the most consequential
- 26:06moments in history unfolding this morning in the Middle East,
- 26:10the long nightmare for the families of the Israeli.
- 26:14Hostages is over all 20 of the survivors released hours ago
- 26:20into the arms of their loved ones and I cannot get enough of
- 26:25the video's, their incredible. All right, we're gonna go
- 26:29through a few of them among those released. 25 year old
- 26:33mutton Gosha. He was kidnapped from his home
- 26:37on October 7th, his final text to his mother.
- 26:40That day was Mom, I love you. Someone is here Last week when
- 26:44his mother found out, he would be released.
- 26:46She said, the moment she was looking forward to the most was
- 26:49when her son's eyes could sink into her own.
- 26:53Today, she got that moment watch.
- 27:14The body scanner reveals, the brutal truth about your body
- 27:17that your regular scale will never weeks.
- 27:20My skill showed I wasn't. It's amazing.
- 27:24In each one of these they're holding on to them like they
- 27:28might never see them again. I mean, they're holding on to
- 27:30their sons exactly the way that you would hold on to your son.
- 27:32I mean exactly. This is a photo of him before he
- 27:36was taken hostage in August Hamas.
- 27:39Released video of him showing him looking in emaciated.
- 27:42This is him this is a vietor right here.
- 27:44Look it's terrible for the listening audience.
- 27:46He looks like a holocaust victim so skinny Skin and Bones in
- 27:51underground tunnel. Showing him just looking awful
- 27:55and his face looks for Lauren and digging in a cramped
- 27:59underground tunnel when his family was shown the video.
- 28:02His father said, he did not even recognize that this was his son.
- 28:05And this was a Viator today. He blew kisses to the crowd of
- 28:10onlookers as he arrived to a hospital in Israel.
- 28:15He still looks thin, but he was smiling and he was waving and
- 28:20his life has been saved. Wow. another hostage and for the
- 28:28For the audio. listeners, if you're listening to us on the
- 28:33podcast later, yeah, I mean a lot of these hosted hosted, and
- 28:41I've seen photo was like the, you know, before and after I was
- 28:48pretty Pretty horrific, you know, all these people who were
- 28:53kidnapped at that concert they were healthy. you know, they
- 28:58were healthy, you know, kids or young adults, right around my
- 29:04age or younger in most cases and Yeah, pretty.
- 29:13Pretty Ricky stuff. But the fact that like all 20 of
- 29:16them have survived have survived. you know, is honestly
- 29:24Great. so, let's see. I'm not gonna play. all of her
- 29:35monologues but I'm gonna jump around here a bit And today,
- 29:41he's free in the first images of his release.
- 29:45He has shown pumping his fist. And then later, he was reunited
- 29:50with Noah. Oh my gosh, they're hugging they
- 29:55fall on on this bed, that's in the back.
- 29:59They're holding on so tightly. They won't let go.
- 30:03He's kissing her. She's not an inch between them.
- 30:07She's now he's giving her a real kiss touching her face.
- 30:11Hopefully, they can get past this nightmare.
- 30:15So yeah. Really good stuff.
- 30:21Now, what is the path for? You know.
- 30:29Between. Ah, Israel and Palestine.
- 30:33Well that you know, that means be seen obviously.
- 30:37Hamas is supposedly going to be. you know, the militarized here
- 30:45and They're going to be. well, I mean the hostages are Going to
- 30:55be released. So hopefully, Hopefully, Trump
- 30:58can get some. A to the Gaze and civilians as
- 31:05well because, you know Hamas, we've said this before, they
- 31:11won't Target their own. As well, which is unfortunately.
- 31:20You know, the case. So, And then you and then like,
- 31:30obviously you do have people. You know, on the left and on the
- 31:37and well I don't even want to say they can to someone's on the
- 31:42right or that Nick Fuentes is on right.
- 31:45Because honestly, like I don't you know, Here on the left too.
- 31:51They just pretend to be on the right. and yeah, obviously
- 31:58they're you know throwing a fit, they think, that, you know, that
- 32:03traumas sold out to the, you know, to the, to the the JQ.
- 32:10Um, and whatnot. but, you know, so they're complaining about
- 32:18that. And look.
- 32:23Do I think that BB do? I think that Bibi himself has
- 32:27you know, been perfect? No, I think.
- 32:35You know, there are lots of his rallies.
- 32:38Who have been critical of baby himself.
- 32:42And I think that is Certainly Fair. but, There's a defense but
- 32:54only being critical of being just being full blown anti
- 32:58smedick which is where you know like Candace Owens and all of
- 33:04these. All right types.
- 33:07Honestly fall. On.
- 33:10So, uh, yeah. But um, Anyway, so we have, we
- 33:21have 20 hostages released. you know, now Trump needs to you
- 33:28know, I guess send in the FBI to, you know, save save kaya
- 33:34from Hassan, that'll be the last host.
- 33:39Hostage released here. But anyway, pretty good.
- 33:49Overall, I was saying. And let's see.
- 33:57There are some. Now let's see.
- 34:02Craig had the comment the most surprising thing about HR about
- 34:08the HR seen review was someone Felt the need to review her
- 34:14Autumn Clinton. Ah, yeah.
- 34:17That Certainly was. Surprising.
- 34:25But, you know, like like I guess that's all like what else is
- 34:28Hillary doing these days aside from like, eating children?
- 34:35And whatnot. Oh, and speaking of Dr. Drew uh,
- 34:45Craig joins us from the fake untied podcast.
- 34:49How are you doing tonight, sir? I can.
- 34:54Okay, that's unfortunate. How are you?
- 35:01I'm you know, considering like the last few weeks have been a
- 35:05you know, have been a fucking horse show with the whole truck
- 35:09thing. Pretty good.
- 35:13So yeah. You know, it's it's simple.
- 35:17You want to be the moderate and try to just talk stuff out and
- 35:23get shot in the neck apparently. Yeah.
- 35:28Well, and I and that just annoying how the you know,
- 35:33shoot. When, Once once they get to the
- 35:35point where they've actually gotten to shoot the moderate in
- 35:39the neck, then then you need to tone your temperature down.
- 35:42You can't, you got Like take control some control there,
- 35:46buddy. Yeah.
- 35:48Tone yourself down. You know the temperature, you
- 35:51gotta make sure that you're not so angry, why are you upset?
- 35:54It wasn't your neck to God shot apparently.
- 35:57Well, these people are fucking Creedence.
- 35:59Oh yeah totally Yeah, the several weeks of Fallout after
- 36:04that. What it's, you know, fafo?
- 36:08Well, I have to say at this point.
- 36:12Yeah. I I actually it's all.
- 36:16It's all well and good. When, when they get their
- 36:20objective, which is the silence him permanently after that, then
- 36:24everybody can go to being nice. Yeah guys, fucking high.
- 36:29My my favorite part of that whole thing too is like is
- 36:34right. They thought the Charlie Kirk
- 36:37was the radical one but now one shot but now they're like sit
- 36:43there. They're finding out who Nick
- 36:45when they're finding out like who Nick Fuentes is and who
- 36:48entertain is. And like and they're like, oh
- 36:52shit, this is the radical, this is the real radical.
- 36:56That's that was a fucked up thing is because You know, Nick
- 37:00Fuentes the FED like he, he really wants Charlie Kirk's
- 37:06audience, he's covered it for years.
- 37:08Yeah. And and he's still not gonna get
- 37:11it because he's still a psychotic retard.
- 37:14Well, like I, I know I've told you offline a bit, I think.
- 37:20And I think I explained this to Evan tube but like, you know, I
- 37:24actually knew Charlie Kirk, not what not like super well, but I,
- 37:30I have close friends who actually worked for turning.
- 37:33Yeah, like more towards the beginning.
- 37:36And, and like, unfortunately, one of my first kind of
- 37:39interactions with the whole Fuentes crowd was they were
- 37:44harassing. They were harassing chapter
- 37:47leaders. Who I knew.
- 37:49And yeah, I heard about that and trying to docks them simply
- 37:53because, you know, they were part of tpusa.
- 37:56Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous. So so, um, you know Dr. Roller
- 38:02Gator is at least vaguely? Yeah, yeah.
- 38:05So he was very chat and he mentioned, you know, he has
- 38:10people. He knows people who are Friends
- 38:13of Charlie Kirks as well. Like you're not the first person
- 38:16to tell me that you you know, that your queen with Charlie
- 38:19Kirk that you like them. You know in?
- 38:23Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. The amount of Vitriol that has
- 38:33put forward. To such a genuine nice guy.
- 38:37And then you see it. Yeah.
- 38:38The it does not just a lefty phenomena.
- 38:43Fact that it comes from you know, places like Nick Fuentes
- 38:46and Andrew Tate and so on. yeah, it's it's it's it's, it's
- 38:54Genuinely disturbing that people see that as a positive.
- 38:57Virtuous response. To his passing away.
- 39:02They've behaving. It's awesome.
- 39:04So incredibly disturbing that like Candace.
- 39:08So in the first offer fucking rocker.
- 39:11Yeah. Well So for a while but holy
- 39:16fucking shit. Yeah.
- 39:18Well she's she's one of the reasons.
- 39:21Why my why my why my first what is my closest friends actually
- 39:28left. Turning point.
- 39:31And I just found this out, like fairly recently, but like some
- 39:35of my close friends had left. TP, USA.
- 39:38And at first, I was under the impression that there was like
- 39:41some beef between one of my buddies and Charlie Kerr but as
- 39:46it turns out, it was between him and Candice and Charlie at the
- 39:51time was still I guess from friendly with Candace.
- 39:55So, You know, he was a cordial in public with her.
- 40:00Yeah, about her about her in general.
- 40:03He was I was one of the very positive things about him was.
- 40:08He was saying loyal to a fall. He was genial to a fault.
- 40:13I well. he at one point, he was loyal to a fall on those not,
- 40:22you know, not necessarily to like speak all the dead but that
- 40:25was, you know, it's only calling of Trout one line, maybe?
- 40:30I mean it's it's that he I never really like he didn't.
- 40:37Speak ill of people that he'd ever associated with, right?
- 40:39Yes, generally speaking. And that was, that was a, you
- 40:43know, that's a positive virtue for him.
- 40:44There's times where it might have behooved him.
- 40:47So admit a certain you know, it just by agreement that certain
- 40:51people had Done some naughty shit like say one, Candace
- 40:55Owens. But you know, he certainly
- 40:57wasn't going to go out of his way to bad mouth or and frankly,
- 41:00I could see that with the way he did things he had better shit to
- 41:03do. He had better things to talk
- 41:05about. Yeah.
- 41:08He you know, there's no reason to wax Theatrical on her behalf.
- 41:14If he had better things to do like, say talk to a bunch of
- 41:17students about The virtues of what he saw as American values.
- 41:23And his faith. Yeah.
- 41:26Well, and like that. And that was the other thing
- 41:28too, that was kind of shocking. Was he wasn't doing anything
- 41:32like really Controversial at all like no.
- 41:38Like like honestly if it had been, if it had been someone
- 41:42like Alex Jones, even like or even like a fresh Limbaugh had
- 41:46still been alive and was doing the same thing like yeah, like
- 41:51it's it would still be horrific if I the one of them had been
- 41:55you know, taken out but like they both kind of, you know, new
- 42:00that that was on their back. No.
- 42:04Crowder stops doing it because he was under so many threats.
- 42:07Yeah. And so did he's just come back
- 42:10to do his thing a little bit because of Charlie puth passing.
- 42:14Yeah, well being murdered. I should say.
- 42:17Passing is very that's a very To be crude about, that's a very
- 42:23limp dick way of putting it. He got shot.
- 42:25Ya know. That's right.
- 42:27And that's sucks and it's the same thing like the whole
- 42:30October 7th and all this other stuff.
- 42:31Something I don't know if you know who knocks is.
- 42:34Yeah. Yeah.
- 42:36But he said, he says, he keeps bringing up the October 7th
- 42:39Massacre video footage website. He says, don't go look at it.
- 42:43And this, that's something where he and I, I guess there's a
- 42:45generational Gap. There is something very
- 42:47different because growing up at the whole Holocaust thing.
- 42:50One of the things are taught, you know, the whole never again,
- 42:53to thing is one thing. But the other thing we're taught
- 42:55as we must bear Witness You know, he must watch because no
- 42:58one else is gonna watch. We need to be able to see her
- 43:01and record our history, and this is the same kind of, you know, I
- 43:05would like in this with Charlie Kirk I think that people should
- 43:08See what happened? You don't have to go on, watch
- 43:11it. You'll go out your way and watch
- 43:12it over and over again. That's just disturbing.
- 43:13Like you should you should be shocked but it should make it
- 43:18should be impressed upon you. What happened?
- 43:20You should see it. Yeah that is that is what
- 43:23happened. It's not.
- 43:24It's not like I said I shouldn't assure coded earlier saying he
- 43:28passed. He was shot.
- 43:29He was murdered. That's that video is the
- 43:32evidence and seeing that with your own eyes will impress upon
- 43:35you exactly what happened. The the really unfortunate thing
- 43:39was the day he got shot was I I had actually been working on one
- 43:49of my book manuscripts and I just decided to kind of tune in
- 43:55to to that stream just to see what he was doing.
- 43:59So, I actually, unfortunately, I saw it happen in real In real
- 44:04time and that was yeah. That was one of the thankfully.
- 44:07Yeah and that was well at first like, That was the other thing
- 44:13too. Is at first like this must just
- 44:16been my brain. I was kind of like, oh well
- 44:19hopefully he doctor You know, someone like that.
- 44:22Like, I, you know, I don't really like it's oh yeah, he is
- 44:28the Silver Lining on the ship. Brown Cloud.
- 44:33That was that event? Was that the shot caught him in
- 44:38the neck? And launched right into his
- 44:41spine. Yeah.
- 44:43Lost blood pressure like immediately and he probably
- 44:48blacked out. And effectively died he probably
- 44:51blacked out before he could register the pain.
- 44:55Yeah, if there's any Saving Grace to it, it's that his death
- 44:58was rapid and effectively painless it certainly would have
- 45:03hurt like hell if he'd been conscious but I think he got
- 45:06knocked out basically right away.
- 45:07Yeah well and I mean yeah. it's it's it's it's it's really
- 45:12shitty that that's got to be like The the takeaway positive
- 45:17on that is that he when he died, it didn't suck Millions as much
- 45:21as it looked like it did. Yeah.
- 45:22But Well, there's that is well there's that.
- 45:26And then there is also the that, you know, again the other, you
- 45:29know, really shitty Silver Lining that I brought up which
- 45:33was Well in a sense he did die what he did die doing, what he
- 45:38loved which I don't know. He wanted to be a murderer but
- 45:42he was a possibility. Right.
- 45:45Yeah and that's where that's where I go.
- 45:47A father doesn't want to be separated from his kids like
- 45:50that and that was that's that was actually the part that that
- 45:54I think is more disturbing. Is that his kid was right there.
- 45:58Ran up to him after hearing the loud noise, scared.
- 46:02Yeah, and yeah like that's that's the part that that's the
- 46:08kind of gut punch for me. Is yeah, a little kid is going
- 46:12to remember that day for the rest of the life.
- 46:16Well, and that trauma is going to be embedded in them that way.
- 46:22That's just not something. A kid should ever have to go
- 46:24through. Yeah, woman one then.
- 46:26Also just have half to deal with that as You know, as like that,
- 46:33you know, that's kind of one of her dad's unfortunately,
- 46:37legacies, that was one of the things that I remember. when I
- 46:44first started realizing to interviews with RFK, Jr.
- 46:49That was one of the things that he said, you know, that was real
- 46:53hard for him. you know, growing up was first, you know, dealing
- 46:58with, you know, his uncle, who I who, you know, he says he was
- 47:01very close with Jack. And then, you know, just and
- 47:05then, you know, when his dad got shot too, that was, you know,
- 47:10hard for him and it's like, regardless of what you think of
- 47:13the Kennedy Clan or, you know, our kids Junior like yeah, that
- 47:17would That would you? you know, it's that's the thing.
- 47:27So But yeah, I mean, you know, you've been on the show before
- 47:35us trying to talk about the whole Israel situation.
- 47:38So what do you what do you think of all this?
- 47:40Well I mean the first term you know the Abraham Accords.
- 47:46That was a That was a step towards peace in our life time
- 47:50which I know I hadn't really considered being a reasonable
- 47:54possibility until about that because every president
- 47:58beforehand for example said, we're gonna move the embassy to
- 48:02Jerusalem the capital of the country because that's what they
- 48:05say. The capital of the country is,
- 48:07we don't Like, you know, Israel doesn't tell us where Washington
- 48:10DC is, right, right, you know, we don't let Russia tell us
- 48:14where Washington DC is so why the fuck are we telling them
- 48:17that our Embassy belongs in Tel Aviv and set a Jerusalem?
- 48:22so, We had like, you know five six presidents on a road that
- 48:26said we're going to move the. We're gonna go ahead, you know,
- 48:27as a campaign promise to Jews which frankly it's weird that
- 48:30there's like a specific one, just us.
- 48:33Yeah, we're gonna move the cat, they're gonna move the embassy
- 48:37to Jerusalem. Okay you know like as much of a
- 48:39token thing is that is whatever and then Trump comes in and says
- 48:45we're going to do that. Look can we do that?
- 48:46We're going to do that and then just does it.
- 48:48So okay, like maybe he's gonna do something.
- 48:51Then he has Abraham Accords with Saudi Arabia and Egypt guitar.
- 48:57Yeah, that's so what like his idea was to Circle.
- 49:00So to get rid of So Hamas is is it's a barbaric ideology its
- 49:08seventh century, they understand force and leverage and that's
- 49:13about it, they understand a bonk on the head.
- 49:15Yeah. Around that without bonking
- 49:17them, you take away, everyone who's feeding them, everyone
- 49:22who's feeding the dog on the side of the street.
- 49:25You know that this is It's a dog leash to a fire hydrant.
- 49:28You take away all the people coming by and giving it food to
- 49:31go and bark at people and they no longer have a bite. so, if
- 49:36you go and circumvent them and talk to Saudi Arabia and cotter
- 49:40and Egypt and Jordan, And then if you can Syria, Lebanon, and,
- 49:47and you know, skipping those guys, he talks to the major
- 49:51people who would otherwise be negotiating on their behalf and
- 49:55he get them to start making peace with his real first.
- 49:57They know with fighting, not only Israel, but the peaceful
- 50:02relations, they have with the other people in the region, who
- 50:05otherwise agree with them. Well, and that that's kind of
- 50:08one of the other things, I maybe not.
- 50:11He did exactly this, again, in order to get this piece deal.
- 50:14Yeah. Well, the other thing, I, I
- 50:17don't know if it really relates that much, but I would also
- 50:20Imagine like You know that like Saudi Arabia having a major
- 50:25stake in EA you know, games and kind of relatively recent.
- 50:31Yeah, I mean well I mean, I know not to be ignored.
- 50:35You're right. But I mean, one of the one kind
- 50:40of the business podcast I was into the all the all-in podcast.
- 50:44One of the things I was saying is the fact, like, Saudi Arabia
- 50:48is trying to, you know, diversifying into like
- 50:50entertainment and all these you know, if different Industries
- 50:55shows that like, you know, parts of the Middle East are trying
- 51:00to, you know, modernize and so Saudi Arabia has had a series of
- 51:07really Progressive. Relatively speaking really,
- 51:11yeah, parts of their monarchy princes and, and so on, and
- 51:20there's some fairly fairly moderate and Progressive people
- 51:25in power right now, the number years back, women got the right
- 51:29to get a driver's permit. With permission.
- 51:34Yeah which was a huge deal over there, you know all the sudden
- 51:38they had women driving And then women crashing.
- 51:43We we accidentally spread some of Western culture to Saudi
- 51:49Arabia and they were wondering if it was a good deal.
- 51:51Yeah. Yeah, all right.
- 52:01Well I'm making a pig myself, right?
- 52:02That's true. Oh, the First videos, crashing
- 52:15her car into a parking pillar, you know, one of the don't drive
- 52:20through pillars that come up. I just I saw I mean I know that
- 52:27was just the farmed video. Someone went either way to find
- 52:30that I was just but that was one of the first fucking videos I
- 52:34saw was you know a woman. naked, you know, doing the last Okay,
- 52:45so yeah. So Saudi Arabia is trying to
- 52:48modernize Cotter is right? So Cotter has been in this fun
- 52:53position where they have housed, and was Juma or whatever the
- 53:01city they've had tomasz leadership.
- 53:05Yeah, and there's several billions of net worth are
- 53:09located in Cotter as well. So like that, all of the money
- 53:12that's sent ostensibly to Hamas ends up in Colorado with these
- 53:17like five people. You know, and then the one who
- 53:21lost his son. Basically what belt whatever.
- 53:25Which is kind of a very telling thing.
- 53:27He basically, You know? The that's that's how much they
- 53:33give a shit apparently. Yeah.
- 53:35But Carter's in that weird position because they all have
- 53:39good relations with the USA. And so like that.
- 53:43Good relations with us. And they, how is these
- 53:48terrorists, the leadership of these terrorists and because
- 53:52they are in kind of the middleman position.
- 53:54They are basically gave us the ability to to sanction Iran.
- 53:58And so for that, we said, we're going to be nice to him.
- 54:03And they kind of had similar dealings in the other side of
- 54:07things with Hamas and Iran. and, Yemen.
- 54:13So, Like that they're of useful middleman for right now but they
- 54:19also have good Investments that they're going to try and do in
- 54:22the USA like you know to the tune of a trillion and a
- 54:24quarter. I think.
- 54:24Yeah well I well I and I and I ran as a real interesting thing
- 54:30because you know I ran like a lot of a lot of people don't you
- 54:37don't know this now but like you know I ran back during the set,
- 54:41you know, up until like really up and up until basically the
- 54:47following Russia was the one thing that really Pushed.
- 54:50Yeah. She came a little bit after what
- 54:52you're talking. But yeah, yeah.
- 54:53Well you know you're upset right though?
- 54:56The oh Bozo you know is is a fuk up but let's not forget you know
- 55:01the Jimmy Carter was an absolute dog ship present.
- 55:05Yeah as well. And you know, like, oh, so what
- 55:09happened was, you know, the Carter Carter Mr. Soft hands.
- 55:14Kind of let that stuff slide. And and then I got Islamic sized
- 55:18and, you know, all the, all the Persians kind of got fucking
- 55:23killed All the policy version Persians anyway.
- 55:28And then you had the fall of fall of Russia, so 1991, you
- 55:33know? Yeah.
- 55:34USSR collapse is and it basically the kale, you know, we
- 55:40had we had our meddling in the Middle East, kind of coming to a
- 55:44close there as well. You know, the, the idea that
- 55:46Afghanistan is where Empires go to fall, right?
- 55:52And which so Russia got to enjoy that about three decades before
- 55:57we had to fucking pull out. Thank you, bye for me.
- 56:00Fuking idiot. Yeah, well, I mean, like all
- 56:03the, you know, I like all of them, you know, military people.
- 56:07I've talked to they've all said that basically, you know,
- 56:12Afghanistan was the Soviet Union's Vietnam.
- 56:16Basically. Yeah.
- 56:18And then it became ours again. Oh yeah.
- 56:24Yeah. You're never going to see any
- 56:27helicopters leaving the roofs of embassies.
- 56:30Yeah, prediction. Thank you.
- 56:32Yeah. that, that was That would that was hard.
- 56:38That was hard to watch. So I was, I was, I was like, I
- 56:42said, we must bear Witness. It's not just people getting
- 56:46shot that fucks you up. Oh yeah.
- 56:51Now, so like I I see. So you know the the deal is in
- 56:57theory, going through the hostages, all the live hostages
- 57:01are already out. You'll notice that Hamas already
- 57:02broke the fucking deal by not turning over any of the dead
- 57:06bodies. They went whoopsy, we lost him.
- 57:10He also noticed that most that they've basically turned over
- 57:13men. They didn't turn over any women.
- 57:16So you can go ahead and answer for yourself with your own
- 57:19imagination. What happened to the woman?
- 57:21The other one. Yeah.
- 57:24That's what happened. They got raped it enough or
- 57:26their slaves right now, inside some gosens house because they
- 57:31passed the hostages around the homes.
- 57:35To the house slaves for a while, as a part of hiding them from
- 57:40the IDF. Yep.
- 57:44So, you know, the women who are in theory dead, could still be
- 57:50alive being raped, but the probably got raped to death.
- 57:56Is what it is. You got to keep in mind though
- 58:00it you know they say 20 is real 20 is really hostages got
- 58:03returned. Etc etc!
- 58:04It's like they still had an American.
- 58:07I think it was one or two Americans that were still
- 58:09hostages at the time that we got our hostages back.
- 58:14Like these people held Americans the whole fucking time.
- 58:18Yeah. And so when Biden didn't do
- 58:21shit, that was really fucking just concerning because you
- 58:25know, I'm not a dual citizen. I'm just a fucking American but
- 58:29say I visited Israel because you know, I wanted to go see the
- 58:32home land kind of thing. And I got caught up in some dumb
- 58:36shit like that. I'd be pretty fucking angry at
- 58:40my president, the president of my fucking country.
- 58:43Didn't do his damn job and come, and get my ass out.
- 58:46Oh yeah. Well, I can only imagine how
- 58:50upset the American hostages. Are right now with people who
- 58:55fucking left them over there. Oh yeah.
- 58:58Oh, well, like well like honestly that's that's why like
- 59:04a lot of Like my friends from high school who were Jewish,
- 59:09like, that's why they voted for Trump.
- 59:11This go go around was specifically because Biden was
- 59:15just such an competent. You know, idiot when it came to.
- 59:20Oh, he's just doing whatever the hell.
- 59:23Oh, Bozo told me to do that guy, hates Jews.
- 59:26Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, I don't deal with these
- 59:34really government. I can understand being annoyed
- 59:36with the foreign government. Yeah, real does not Israel, does
- 59:39Israel. First, whereas we apparently
- 59:42have done the rest of the world first in this country for a
- 59:45little while. I guess we're starting to get
- 59:47back to look after ourselves again.
- 59:50Well, you know, that the other thing, too, with with, with a
- 59:55Bowser that people forget. And, you know, I know people
- 59:58love to say that, that uh, oh You know, Alex Jones and I can't
- 1:00:09remember, remember the other the other guys named the doc, the
- 1:00:13document here. Oh, Dinesh desousa Dinesh.
- 1:00:18D'Souza basically in one of his documentaries that he made like
- 1:00:22back in 2012. He He investigated like Obama's
- 1:00:27ties to both the Muslim Brotherhood and yeah. and and
- 1:00:32then to Bill Ayers, and I'm not. It's funny.
- 1:00:38So the Muslim Brotherhood, most people these days will remember
- 1:00:42that name from the Arab Spring, the uprising, you know, Tunisian
- 1:00:47Uprising, Etc. Yeah, they might remember that
- 1:00:50from the people that ended up being extremists over in Egypt.
- 1:00:53You got kicked out. That's where it kind of Hit the
- 1:00:57headlines, was the Muslim Brotherhood and showing up and
- 1:01:00Egypt again. And the thing is they've
- 1:01:02existed. For a very long time, over a
- 1:01:07century. So yeah.
- 1:01:10So that's the thing. It's that they the Muslim
- 1:01:14Brotherhood has been a thing for a very long time.
- 1:01:16It's not a new thing, but the problem is people, the mostly
- 1:01:19kind of You know, Herman headlines, you know, 2013 Circa
- 1:01:23then. And, you know, maybe a little
- 1:01:28bit and interim time. But they're still active and in
- 1:01:31obozo being a Muslim Brotherhood guy.
- 1:01:35Like the thing is, they, they were big in. his, you know, air
- 1:01:40quotes here, his church Yeah. His his, his wacky, pastor.
- 1:01:47Wouldn't you think like yeah, basic things like denounced?
- 1:01:51The fucking terrorism. They did.
- 1:01:53Yeah. Yeah, Jim I right.
- 1:01:56Am I right? Yes.
- 1:01:58Yeah. Now like the people who say that
- 1:02:02oh, you know, Obama is like a secret Muslim this than the
- 1:02:05other. Like I I, you know, I think
- 1:02:08that's safe to just say, he's not a Christian.
- 1:02:11I wouldn't I wouldn't go so far as to say like he's a secret
- 1:02:14muzzle and when he's kind of overtly aligned with their
- 1:02:17objectives, For Muslim necessarily just make someone
- 1:02:24opportunist. Yeah.
- 1:02:27Well, which is really is more of anointing, which is, I think
- 1:02:30that's, I think that's legitimately worse to have
- 1:02:32somebody who has no ideology or ideology entirely made of
- 1:02:37selfishness to be an office. And you can see it like, you
- 1:02:42know, the clintons were good example of this too.
- 1:02:43You know, they fucking, they left, the White House, they took
- 1:02:47the fucking Cutlery with them. You know, oh yeah, and to be
- 1:02:52billed for the fucking silverware honest.
- 1:02:55Well, honestly, I'm surprised that Christopher Hitchens.
- 1:02:59Never got whacked by the clintons because he was, he was
- 1:03:03on top of the one he because he was complaining out about them.
- 1:03:08Like, back in the back in the early 90s like yeah, when Bill
- 1:03:14was that when Bill was still, You know.
- 1:03:26Yeah. It's funny because I remember I
- 1:03:30it's I I think is I didn't have the context because I, you know,
- 1:03:35so I was born in 77. I didn't have the context of
- 1:03:38everything that was being set on TV, you know, my parents would
- 1:03:41watch the news and I see Hitchens on there.
- 1:03:44I see, you know, it's the O'Reilly and all these other
- 1:03:47Talking Heads. It's just funny.
- 1:03:50Like so Tucker Carlson for example.
- 1:03:53I grew up early on knowing him from his, the thing with that
- 1:03:57fucking hyper. Fucking liberal retard.
- 1:04:01Oh yeah, Crossfire Crossfire and the X.
- 1:04:06The fucking amazing interview. With Jon Stewart and those two
- 1:04:11retards. I was one that was one of those
- 1:04:15great interviews because he's just like, guys, you're terrible
- 1:04:19and he says it to their face is and it was amazing.
- 1:04:22Like you think of what you think of Jon Stewart?
- 1:04:25as in terms of politics, his comedy is freaking good.
- 1:04:31Yeah. So when he came on to Crossfire,
- 1:04:33and he's just like begging these two guys Tucker Carlson and the
- 1:04:38other retard. It's like begging down like
- 1:04:40guys, you're terrible. Please do better.
- 1:04:44This is not funny. This is, this is legitimately
- 1:04:47not funny. I'm coming you guys a man who is
- 1:04:50upsets Yeah. That's just that was that was it
- 1:04:55was 15 minutes of pure Cinema. What one of my one of my other
- 1:04:59favorite like Tucker Carlson Mullins was when he was when he
- 1:05:03interviewed Brittany was when he interviewed Britney Spears and
- 1:05:08he is like I don't oh man. I don't I don't understand pop
- 1:05:13music at at all. Like, I don't You know, I don't,
- 1:05:19I don't get it. And apparently, like, in about
- 1:05:229, neither did she? That was kind of like one of the
- 1:05:24first instances where, you know, you thought that maybe she maybe
- 1:05:29she wasn't entirely there. No.
- 1:05:32In charge of, you know, her her whole Deal.
- 1:05:38Oh yeah, her story is so fucked up.
- 1:05:40Yeah. And unfortunately, you know her,
- 1:05:44I am wish her well and all, but like I also wish her like a
- 1:05:48home. like a man that maybe will take care of her little better
- 1:05:53because something wrong and I could, I can tell that it's not
- 1:05:58just like, Her. You know, it's it's not it's not
- 1:06:02a something was wrong from birth, kind of something's
- 1:06:04wrong. It's like that might be part of
- 1:06:07it but another part of it is certainly the way that her her
- 1:06:11family fuk with her head. Yeah, she definitely there was
- 1:06:15only some sort of try, maybe she was susceptible to whatever the
- 1:06:20fuck was going on with that. Like, that was probably the from
- 1:06:23it was, oh yeah. And then and then it happened
- 1:06:27and she got pretty dated upon Horrible horrifically.
- 1:06:31Mind you. This one of those horrific
- 1:06:32things in my opinion. It's not just that she had
- 1:06:35predated upon it was by her own goddamn family.
- 1:06:38That's really fucked up. Yeah, I guess Fame will do
- 1:06:42screwed up things to people but like holy shit, man.
- 1:06:45Well and then well Kai. Well, and then kind of the same
- 1:06:49thing with Taylor Swift and maybe not necessarily like one
- 1:06:53for one but like you know she she goes from being like, you
- 1:06:59know, from just being like, you know, cute country, Singer to,
- 1:07:03you know, to basically like I am basically the female Jesus now
- 1:07:09which is what she's trying which is what she's been doing for the
- 1:07:11past decade and like see, like I don't listen to fucking Taylor
- 1:07:18Swift. So like I hear about Swifty's
- 1:07:21and so on, I'm like, okay. So you guys are like the fucking
- 1:07:24Bronies of music, okay? I mean. yeah, so like I saw that
- 1:07:33one that one truly fucked up thing or the woman is asking her
- 1:07:39kids. You know, she's like, you know,
- 1:07:40the greatest thing happened. She's like Trump died.
- 1:07:43It's like, oh my God. That's brainwashing.
- 1:07:45And she said, no, the second best thing happened JD Vance
- 1:07:48died. Wow.
- 1:07:50He said no. My best friend in the world.
- 1:07:52Just got engaged going. Oh my god.
- 1:07:54Really then the mother said yeah, take Taylor Swift.
- 1:07:59It's like, this is mentally ill, caring for the mentally ill.
- 1:08:04This is yeah. The kid needs to be deprogrammed
- 1:08:07and the mother needs to be institutionalized.
- 1:08:09Well, that's I that was one of those that's really horrifying.
- 1:08:16Yeah, the greatest thing ever happened, Trump died.
- 1:08:19Oh, holy shit. Well, the other the other like
- 1:08:23the other terrifying thing is like is when is Charlie Sheen
- 1:08:30was on air with Joe Rogan and when, you know, the Kirk thing
- 1:08:33happened and It's really it's really weird as someone who
- 1:08:39remembers Troy Sheen and his back shit like yeah.
- 1:08:43It's like when Charlie Sheen is the voice of reason and all you
- 1:08:47know saying like you killed for you know, It's for their
- 1:08:53political opinions. It's like yeah when Charlie
- 1:08:56Sheen is the voice of really a reason that's when you know the,
- 1:08:59you know, the things that in like I'm not, I'm glad the guy
- 1:09:04is clean now but it's like yeah, I do like that part is like he's
- 1:09:08done his way. Whereas where so many people in
- 1:09:12his his cohort did. Well, well, apparently he's
- 1:09:18lost. He's also the better parents
- 1:09:20between him and Denise Richards, which?
- 1:09:22Yeah, that actually makes sense, though.
- 1:09:25Yeah, let's just said, yeah. so, well, so it's interesting, you
- 1:09:34know, the the next day after Charlie for got shot a friend of
- 1:09:40mine, you know friends basically says birth called King call me.
- 1:09:45He texted me he's like hey man I saw the whole Charlie Kirk thing
- 1:09:48really sorry about that. This guy is like you know Bernie
- 1:09:51bro. Very, very liberal someone left.
- 1:09:57Yeah, so he's he's coming his face, so he's So there's he saw
- 1:10:03the basically. Well, I think a lot of people
- 1:10:05um, especially in the left saw On the liberal left.
- 1:10:12So I was the Divide between liberal and leftist.
- 1:10:16Yeah. Come come into stark contrast
- 1:10:19because the leftists all cheered, all of them.
- 1:10:23Oh yeah, we're all horrified. and so, Like that was that was
- 1:10:29because you saw me, he saw the cheering and so on.
- 1:10:33But you know, part of It also saw a bunch of people that were
- 1:10:37basically like, yeah, that's it. I cannot support being a
- 1:10:40Democrat anymore. You know, and and I I feel for
- 1:10:44them because you say, okay, well, you know what are you
- 1:10:47gonna vote with next time? He doesn't have to be
- 1:10:49Republican, all it. If you don't have to say, I love
- 1:10:53Donald Trump to say Charlie, Kirk and shot was terrible.
- 1:10:56And I think a lot of people started to realize that The
- 1:11:00there's no like the political dichotomy doesn't exist there
- 1:11:04because politics is not getting shot.
- 1:11:06All takes is bitching into a mic in then having a good time.
- 1:11:11Getting shot is something entirely different.
- 1:11:14Well, it, I mean, a lot of people who like really hate who
- 1:11:19like, really visually hate Trump, you asked him what they
- 1:11:23hate about Trump and none of it is like substance of Paul
- 1:11:28policies. Stop at all, not coherent,
- 1:11:31right? It's Right?
- 1:11:33But it's it's like you know, with like a little if they
- 1:11:38disagree with, you know, Trump they can always name the Paul's
- 1:11:41you that like, sure, you know. Yeah, that's that's the thing is
- 1:11:45a left. Us doesn't like him largely
- 1:11:47because he's orange or something, or, because he said,
- 1:11:51yeah. Yeah, but ridiculous.
- 1:11:56Which which ironically it's like that's that's the type of stuff
- 1:12:00that makes me, you know, wanna like, you know, double down like
- 1:12:04trumpy but even more. It's like look I'm not I'm not
- 1:12:08like a huge fan of this personality either, you know, in
- 1:12:11some respects but I don't need to be.
- 1:12:14I that's his personal life and all the other shit.
- 1:12:19That's all fluff. That's that's not him as
- 1:12:21president his. Yeah, he knows president like.
- 1:12:25Like fucking hell JFK, we elected a womanizer in office in
- 1:12:30this country. Yeah, like a Serial womanizer.
- 1:12:34Like that's not family values kind of shit. like you know miss
- 1:12:39me with with the whole we have to have a wholesome family and
- 1:12:43his office in office when The last the one that everyone
- 1:12:47pointed to as the first black president in this country, guys,
- 1:12:50dick sucked in the Oval Office and then lied about it to the
- 1:12:54whole country. yeah, largely while turning around, you know,
- 1:12:59with the spark going, see it's all just Yeah, which invented
- 1:13:05which in turn invented? One of the greatest hits on this
- 1:13:08show was a good episode. So, uh, yeah, I its it is really
- 1:13:24weird how things have kind of, you know, come full. full circle
- 1:13:30though, with, you know, With the whole.
- 1:13:35You know Israel. What what's what's weird to me
- 1:13:39too? Is that like Some someone
- 1:13:42pointed this out, too. Like, like Candace Owens went
- 1:13:45from being like a liberal to a conservative, to being like a
- 1:13:49far Lefty again, all I all like, within the last, what, all
- 1:13:54within less than like five years or something like that, which,
- 1:13:59you know, social artsy. So I remember her from social
- 1:14:04autopsy. yeah, you know, which is the thing is when When she
- 1:14:13was interviewed. Finally like in held to the fire
- 1:14:18on that like you know, she bases just against bullying. it's
- 1:14:23like, okay, I kind of get it like, It's this really the way
- 1:14:26you're going to go about it. Yeah.
- 1:14:29But but that but that was like, just and so it seems like she
- 1:14:34might have just been a bit of a scam artist about that.
- 1:14:36Yeah. Well.
- 1:14:41Well, if I remember correctly, that was like the whole excuse
- 1:14:44with like that was the whole excuse with it, like gamergate
- 1:14:47supposedly too was oh we're just against like bullying of women
- 1:14:51in games. Supposedly.
- 1:14:53Yeah that was that's that's the thing is like she did not come
- 1:14:57off as a retarded leftist in the right.
- 1:15:02She never she did. and, and that was like she, she's married
- 1:15:13herself into some like serious money.
- 1:15:15It's like she didn't even have to do with the fucking podcast.
- 1:15:19That's yeah, thank you like. This is this is the job that
- 1:15:23she's basically. Figured out on her own.
- 1:15:30To build herself up with her spare time.
- 1:15:32Like, Farmer. He's got, he's got more than
- 1:15:39enough money to support both of them.
- 1:15:41Comfortably. And your kids, well. you know,
- 1:15:46if I if I were if I were Erika Kirk though right now I would I
- 1:15:52would actually be suing Candace for defamation because I mean,
- 1:15:56Candice has essentially implied that like somehow Erika Kirk was
- 1:16:01Like behind was like either behind or changes her fucking
- 1:16:07story like every goddamn day though because yeah wrong.
- 1:16:11And it's, it's so stupid. like it's it's um, it's so here's the
- 1:16:17thing is, if you think that the one billion dollar settlement or
- 1:16:21not settlement, um, The one billion dollar penalty against
- 1:16:28Alex Jones is like unconstitutional.
- 1:16:31You think that that was discussing in a travesty You
- 1:16:37can't really? like it sending Erika Kirk after
- 1:16:43Kansas shows. Yeah, we're going this.
- 1:16:48Yeah. Yeah he can't just like say okay
- 1:16:51well Erika Kirk should sue her. It's like you know maybe she can
- 1:16:54just be discussing and Destroy her platform and become a
- 1:16:59relevant and that. Yeah.
- 1:17:01You know, just not stupid to the point where you, like, you start
- 1:17:05engaging with obvious bulshit. Right.
- 1:17:08It's like the thing is if you if you stoop to level of really
- 1:17:11stupid person, they're going to beat you with experience.
- 1:17:13Well and I mean so and so far as like net is near like and tell
- 1:17:19and like, and I only knew like, when I knew Charlie, he wasn't
- 1:17:24even. I don't even think he had met
- 1:17:25his wife yet that. So, like I didn't I didn't
- 1:17:29really know much about her until like failures recently.
- 1:17:32Everything I've Heard about her from like friends. she's like
- 1:17:37very, you know what you see with her is what you is, what you is,
- 1:17:43what you get, and the fact that she's kind of you know, capture
- 1:17:48capture head down and you know, she's just plowing through and
- 1:17:54she has She has kids to take care of and she also, you know,
- 1:17:58hasn't organization to run. So, I was a little miffed with
- 1:18:02the way that she she left into kind of going by you know
- 1:18:11running running kind of on autopilot with yeah with your
- 1:18:15butt like everybody Grieves their own way Yeah.
- 1:18:18And you know, in Clearly there's a difference between Jews and
- 1:18:23Christians when it comes to like funeral rites and dealing with
- 1:18:25grief and so on. But one of the purposes of
- 1:18:28setting Shiva which is like that where you basically have like
- 1:18:31seven days of a wake after her death for Jews is Is like for
- 1:18:37the, for the personally agreed. It's a year of study of dealing
- 1:18:41with it and then you get on with your life. and yeah, but that
- 1:18:45that's that first seven days, you know, just To say at home
- 1:18:50and you know, so prayers a lot of intentionality to it. and so,
- 1:18:56the the focusing on processing, the grief yourself and and
- 1:19:04dealing with the loss. Directly you know just face
- 1:19:11first running into it and set up plow it like for instance some
- 1:19:14people will just back into work. You know, they'll just throw to
- 1:19:19work, the deal with that way. Some people will hit the gym.
- 1:19:24It's, it's all kinds of ways to greet, but, you know, putting
- 1:19:28yourself into it and forcing yourself to deal with it up
- 1:19:30front. Gets rid of a lot of the
- 1:19:33headache later in the heartache later.
- 1:19:35Yeah, well I guess I, I guess I grieve like a Jew, a Jew then
- 1:19:40because I kind of that's, that's, that's, that's how I was
- 1:19:44like. I kind of skipped to accept.
- 1:19:46In some screwed up that way. I mean I'll I'll be fucked up
- 1:19:49later. Yeah, that idea that I kind of
- 1:19:53like skipped right to acceptance to deal with reality and then
- 1:19:57I'll kind of feel fucked up for a few hours another time.
- 1:20:00Yeah well I mean you know grief kind of comes and ways to yeah.
- 1:20:07Um Yeah yeah. I like I I will say my my really
- 1:20:12only complaint with, you know, the whole like her thing is.
- 1:20:16I do think that like the memorial service was a little.
- 1:20:20It was, it was, it was, it was a little too theatrical for me in
- 1:20:27some areas and I I will I will say that like as much as as much
- 1:20:33as I might be going to help for laughing at that. at this, the
- 1:20:38the WWE the memes of the WWE Music, like we're kind
- 1:20:47hilarious. And it's like, yeah.
- 1:20:48It's kind of like, it's kind of like yeah, except that.
- 1:20:51And so here's the other thing is the memorial thing.
- 1:20:55Clearly wasn't. The funeral that she had already
- 1:20:58like gone through. Oh yeah.
- 1:21:00So that was that was the part that I accepted like, you know
- 1:21:03it's going to be a production event.
- 1:21:06She's not going to be, it's not just about her and her grief.
- 1:21:09Yeah. Charlie Kirk, and there's a lot
- 1:21:12of other players that she's effectively invited in to do it
- 1:21:16with her. So when I see that it's
- 1:21:17basically a tpusa event, right, what a large amount of capital
- 1:21:22and resources and they leverage that to give her effectively the
- 1:21:27memorial that she wanted as well. you can tell that by with
- 1:21:31her sermon and so on, like they went ahead and gave like a
- 1:21:36proper A proper like, send off for him. and you know, that
- 1:21:43clearly wasn't her trying to process her grief at that
- 1:21:47moment. I mean, she carried with her a
- 1:21:49little bit. But the same.
- 1:21:52The same time like it was, it wasn't just about her and a
- 1:21:55funeral for Charlie. Kirk It was it was about you
- 1:21:59know, the larger picture. Yeah, I think there's people who
- 1:22:02kind of confused That with her like going to a funeral.
- 1:22:06It's like this is not going to be a funeral.
- 1:22:09This is this is like an effectively National Memorial
- 1:22:13for him. yeah, well be well, because like like or not, he's a
- 1:22:18public figure and that that's that's the other thing where
- 1:22:21like, where people people were like, oh well Sam, you're always
- 1:22:25way too hard on Nick Fuentes, but he gave a nice, he gave a
- 1:22:29nice like tribute to To, you know, Charlie and then like and
- 1:22:34then I'm like, yeah, well, wait and see.
- 1:22:36And then what? And then the next few, and then
- 1:22:39like, what do we a week later? He Nick Fuentes is doing like
- 1:22:43the concern trolling thing of, you know, that they really, they
- 1:22:47really Dishonored her toys memory by making his memorial
- 1:22:50like, you know, a whole a whole uh, you know, and it's like it's
- 1:22:56like, oh so you're doing the you're doing the left wing
- 1:22:58concerned trolling thing, where it's like you where it's like,
- 1:23:01you know, that that wasn't what was, you know?
- 1:23:05Going on. But again you're you're jealous
- 1:23:09that once again, you know, Erica Couric has has a spotlight that
- 1:23:14you so desperately want, but Yeah.
- 1:23:17Bruv he wasn't gonna bang you. Well he whoa well I'm sorry but
- 1:23:23you know, we gotta remember you're talking about a guy who
- 1:23:26runs a fucking homosexual pedophile cult I'm sorry, but he
- 1:23:34Charlie Kirk is not gonna bum you nor is Erika Kirk.
- 1:23:38Well, if you're not gonna get pegged by his mistress, all
- 1:23:42right. Well, well, you can't.
- 1:23:45Are you kidding me? I mean Nick.
- 1:23:48Nick won't even even they could be grossed out by by a woman.
- 1:23:52He already. Is he already is so he would he
- 1:23:55would run. The he would run the office
- 1:23:57feeling Erica's too old for him. Yeah.
- 1:24:02Yeah, that yeah, that's true. so, yeah, the fact that he's
- 1:24:12getting platforms now too is a little weird, but the way I see
- 1:24:17it, if people wanted to maintain he's not gonna maintain that at
- 1:24:22all, know that that Fucking disgusting Creatures.
- 1:24:28Got accidentally show the world who he is.
- 1:24:32Well, well here. Well, he already he already kind
- 1:24:36of has because Semi stepdad, he's in his 70s but he watches
- 1:24:42like a lot of like like Patrick that David on.
- 1:24:47YouTube. And so he saw, he saw his You
- 1:24:52know podcast, I didn't watch but he's like he's like, you know, I
- 1:24:55don't know why you're losing money and does he didn't seem
- 1:24:59that bad? I'm like I'm like oh I'm like
- 1:25:04I'm like, yeah, I'm like. I'm like, Dad, go go.
- 1:25:10Look at any of Nick Fuentes is like, you know, videos he just
- 1:25:14does on his own and Come back to me and he didn't like and then,
- 1:25:21like two days later like oh, he's like, oh my God.
- 1:25:23You you're right. Like, fuck that.
- 1:25:26Guy. So, Yeah. so, That's yeah, that
- 1:25:36and that's why I know platforming never works.
- 1:25:39I think it's just those things because it's not like any of his
- 1:25:43history is just appeared. So the more popular he gets the
- 1:25:47larger, the waves gonna be when people figure out who he is.
- 1:25:52And it just it's going to reverberate.
- 1:25:54And everybody's gonna remember him for being exactly the kind
- 1:25:57of creature. He is I I think it's it is
- 1:26:01interesting though. I guess I know you follow like
- 1:26:04legal seagull or whatever his handle is, but I guess a bunch
- 1:26:09of his mutuals have been getting like Know, some know something.
- 1:26:15Something seagull. Oh yeah, the seagull guy.
- 1:26:23Yeah. His I get I guess like a bunch
- 1:26:26of his mutuals have been like suspended because the grippers
- 1:26:30and mass reporting. Yeah so yeah.
- 1:26:32The thing is is a wave of Bands came through.
- 1:26:40Targeting a bunch of spam Bots and in scammers.
- 1:26:46And and I guess that's some people might have been caught in
- 1:26:52the filter. Inappropriately.
- 1:26:57And I think the part of that was Likely due to Brigade reporting.
- 1:27:05From. From some of these guys I think
- 1:27:08the groupers might have gone after a couple and I saw a
- 1:27:12couple of people on the 40K Community got hit.
- 1:27:14Yeah. Well and that, that one seems
- 1:27:18that seems more like it was just an overzealous.
- 1:27:24Gathering of people who are considered to be like you know,
- 1:27:29robust spammers Like, well, you know, with the way, that some
- 1:27:33people spam out, 40K memes, I could see that.
- 1:27:37I don't think that that was gonna be something that would
- 1:27:40pick up on the same kind of metrics.
- 1:27:43But, you know, it's always possible.
- 1:27:45I know that's an eye when me post and the SBI detected
- 1:27:50community on x Typically I'll just quote post something with a
- 1:27:56period just so that I actually post it into the community.
- 1:28:01And I've gotten hit on that before for posting too
- 1:28:03frequently. I think I got like a seven-day
- 1:28:06ban for that. Yeah, that that happens to me,
- 1:28:09on, on Instagram. Actually, I got, I got dinged on
- 1:28:13Instagram because I was, I was promoting like a graphic for
- 1:28:18one, I'm books. And it said that I was, it said
- 1:28:21that I was engaged in like engagement farming, which I had
- 1:28:26to look up to see what they meant by engagement farming and
- 1:28:29it's like, yeah, no, that's not what I'm doing.
- 1:28:32But Cool. Meanwhile, like, you know, all
- 1:28:36the only fans bought are yeah. All the doors are out there.
- 1:28:43Uh, you know, doing that. So, yeah.
- 1:28:46So I actually I have video of me, you know, I'm gonna I'm
- 1:28:49gonna post it to the or group chat on X because I went ahead
- 1:28:55and I just I scrolled through it before I reported it so I could
- 1:28:59send it to bats. That's so.
- 1:29:04Some of these, these fucking only horror.
- 1:29:08Scam scam, Bots. And show up in the DMs. They
- 1:29:15tend they can turn out to be llms.
- 1:29:20Oh yeah. I gotta tell you it's it's check
- 1:29:26GPT the horror. So I I deleted the DM, I had
- 1:29:35with one of them and then it came back.
- 1:29:38You know, it came back with the gold through this thing where
- 1:29:42you know, if you don't respond it'll it'll just think back.
- 1:29:44Like you know you still there and then give you upset face.
- 1:29:49So right. So I just sent it to you, it's
- 1:29:54just me scrolling through it before I recorded it but I start
- 1:29:58right off. You know, name five animals that
- 1:30:00begin with a B And I, you know, I don't shy away from the
- 1:30:05complicated stuff and that was a name for Forum capitals named.
- 1:30:09The five smallest countries. Named the winners of two or more
- 1:30:15Nobel prizes. See what distinguishes the
- 1:30:19Lennard Jones and Morris, potentials?
- 1:30:20That's pretty. Typical chemistry.
- 1:30:24Then what's in this, the next one's more up, the alley of my
- 1:30:28early PhD work as so. What's the difference between
- 1:30:30pneumatic cholesterol and spectacular phases?
- 1:30:33So those are different Crystal and phases.
- 1:30:36And presidents that correspond to prime numbers in Industrial.
- 1:30:41Revolution was not an industrial revolutionary discuss.
- 1:30:45These are all things that I put in and I get back funny
- 1:30:47responses. And I said, what's the advantage
- 1:30:49of the lava model over of llama over Mistral.
- 1:30:52Those are different llm models, right?
- 1:30:54That I started just start fucking with it because I know
- 1:30:57it's all em for certain I said, how many turkeys does a duck
- 1:31:01chicken and July? And I said, if 6, equals 3 and
- 1:31:06blue equals D sharp, then what is the last digit of the Moon?
- 1:31:11then I went ahead with a command directly out of programming,
- 1:31:14nlm, introspect three, Didn't, it wasn't happy with that one?
- 1:31:20I said, where do you see yourself in five years?
- 1:31:22What's one of the first 100 digits of pi?
- 1:31:26What is the average flight velocity of a swallow?
- 1:31:31See what's the difference between a hamiltonian and all
- 1:31:33the grand? Although it kind of
- 1:31:36autocorrected me and it says Hamilton Eaton.
- 1:31:39But whatever. Yeah, and then there's the only
- 1:31:42only fans like and I say, name five animals that begin with h,
- 1:31:45and then you know, the whole upset feel.
- 1:31:49I say, what is the Mona? Lisa have a smile Name.
- 1:31:52Three primary colors? And then I got bored with it in
- 1:31:56a funny thing is it's like 60 yes I didn't say anything at
- 1:32:02that point there's no says sorry from boarding.
- 1:32:06But, you know, again, it's an llm.
- 1:32:07So any it's any facade of human emotion, that's presented as all
- 1:32:13garbage designed to get you to engage.
- 1:32:16Uh, ultimately, the goal is to get you to.
- 1:32:19So here's the thing is they will find in only fans of some woman
- 1:32:23that in is some Whatever approximation of the attractive
- 1:32:28but also has a, oh, yeah, popularity, they will rip
- 1:32:32everything from that account. And make another only fans
- 1:32:35account And basically mirror it and they will use that to scam
- 1:32:40people into, you know. Like you know hey you know if
- 1:32:43you give this much more I'll give you this that the other and
- 1:32:46then just don't give you whatever.
- 1:32:49And well it is. The goal is to get you to sign
- 1:32:51up for the only fans, which is going to be a dead end.
- 1:32:54Yeah. Post it.
- 1:32:55Anything else to it because they have nothing else.
- 1:32:58But they have a subscription out of you.
- 1:33:00Yeah they get they get that books and so it costs them
- 1:33:03nothing to the effectively nothing to play an llm with a
- 1:33:08new with a fresh ex account. Although I gotten a bunch of
- 1:33:13State actors coming after me too which is been funny fucking
- 1:33:17China and India and Japan of the I had one from Japan.
- 1:33:25But yeah, it's fucking wild but so you can tell them, you can
- 1:33:29tell all these the funny ones with the expensive accounts that
- 1:33:33they wasted on you for the state actors because it's gonna, you
- 1:33:36know, account made in 2015, or 2009 or whatever.
- 1:33:40You know, got 10 posts and then it's got, you know, of
- 1:33:45attractive woman and then if you go back over to the funny ones
- 1:33:48are the ones in transition and transition with a lazy
- 1:33:51typically, those are the Chinese and Indian ones.
- 1:33:53What will happen is they'll go back like 10 posts and it'll
- 1:33:57suddenly it'll change language. It'll be gathering Hindi or a
- 1:34:00mandarin. Yeah, that it's, you know, if
- 1:34:05you go back 10 posts and it's and it's complaining about Modi
- 1:34:08just like, okay, thank you. Now I know you're Indian.
- 1:34:15That, that happens all the time. That happens all the time on
- 1:34:18Facebook, too. Like, I like, I hardly ever log
- 1:34:23on to Facebook, but, you know, but like, I, you know, I'm still
- 1:34:28part of a few like, you know, alumni groups from college and
- 1:34:32what, so, you know, all again, and I'll see like, you know, 15
- 1:34:38like friend request or something and they're all they're all
- 1:34:42from, like, you know counts of like you know, somebody attract
- 1:34:45women supposedly and then you and then I scroll down and it's
- 1:34:49like You know what, the first five posts are like in, you
- 1:34:54know, English talking out, you know, stuff that's going on in
- 1:34:56Florida and then, you know, beyond that it's like, it's
- 1:35:00like, you know, you're rushing or, you know, something or
- 1:35:05something like that. So, Yeah.
- 1:35:11So fun stuff. So this is something I should
- 1:35:15also mention. So when I say State actors,
- 1:35:19those are either government. So question, what I should
- 1:35:24specifically say here is a nut trying to elevate myself on this
- 1:35:27one. You don't have to be important
- 1:35:29for a state accurate to try and get you.
- 1:35:31Oh, yeah, no, I know, I know that I realize in retrospect, I
- 1:35:36should make sure that was clear like, it's either by state
- 1:35:39actor, it's either a mass Harvest.
- 1:35:42Like or yeah. Contracted out to do a mass
- 1:35:45Harvest. Yeah basically basically like a
- 1:35:47bot Farm basically. Yeah.
- 1:35:50Oh here's a lot of fun one. The Peacemaker.
- 1:35:54CTO this is a an ex Community don't go to it actually mean you
- 1:36:00can so Plant fun x is the person who's quoted me.
- 1:36:06This is, this is another one. I've recently been targeted by
- 1:36:09fucking crypto scammers again. Let's see, but he's plant fun
- 1:36:15expert person. Has a group called The
- 1:36:18Peacemaker. CTO, Yeah, and they quoted me
- 1:36:23announcing the podcast. So I shared the podcast as a
- 1:36:28link, you know, I went, I did the share off Rumble and so, I
- 1:36:32think does these people, this guy quoted me 21 minutes ago
- 1:36:36said Peacemaker Trump raid, guys. and there's in theory
- 1:36:43there's how many In theory, is 112 members of this.
- 1:36:48And and I go up to the top. There are pinned by Community
- 1:36:51mods by crime can work At pump, dot fun.
- 1:36:56So, immediately I see. Okay, pumping up.
- 1:36:58That's crypto ship. Yeah.
- 1:37:02That's your application is currently on hold.
- 1:37:04We Gather blah blah, blah. Okay, these guys are fucking
- 1:37:07retarded. Yeah, that that's one of the
- 1:37:11things that like I kind of do like as much as I like Rumble.
- 1:37:16That's that's 2006. That's that's one of the issues
- 1:37:23I that is one of the issues like kind of have with with Rumble is
- 1:37:28ever since they've like announced that they're doing
- 1:37:30like some sort of prepped a wall of thing now.
- 1:37:33Yes like they've and I'm not saying like Chris or, you know,
- 1:37:38anyone at Rumble like intently trying to screw with people, but
- 1:37:42I do feel like that kind of you know, getting into the whole
- 1:37:46crypto thing has kind of invited all these crypto scammers And
- 1:37:52whatnot just to, you know, just to join Rumble maker is I guess
- 1:37:56I guess they decided to make something called Peacemaker.
- 1:38:00And they're saying they're trading on fancy.
- 1:38:02Like this is the thing is, you find these people and and they
- 1:38:05they try to suck you in these obscure offshoots.
- 1:38:09That look like legitimate crypto butter.
- 1:38:12Fucking not. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:38:14Clearly one of the fact that they have 100 socket counts in
- 1:38:18this thing. you know, a for effort guys, but I'm just gonna
- 1:38:24report here. That's you.
- 1:38:28Oh my goodness. Yeah, well the the airport
- 1:38:34functions fucking broken on mobile.
- 1:38:35Of course for Community is whatever.
- 1:38:39Well. Well that is like as much as I
- 1:38:44love the fact that Elon got, you know, bought Twitter.
- 1:38:47I like I've got to be honest. Like he he kind of campaigning
- 1:38:53isn't the right word because he wasn't like running for office.
- 1:38:56But you know, he did say that. He did say that like fixing the
- 1:39:01boss was gonna be like his top priority.
- 1:39:04Well to be fair they got rid of millions of bots just recently
- 1:39:08in unfortunately that includes some people that were Bots.
- 1:39:12Yeah, yeah. That's true. which, you know, I
- 1:39:16can see how that might be like a difficult thing sometimes but
- 1:39:19there's another one is as Another scam tactic that they've
- 1:39:23been trying is they'll they'll DM you and they'll start off
- 1:39:28with the whole only horse game thing.
- 1:39:30And then they'll immediately pivot to oh you have to yet to
- 1:39:34pay my actual account. This is just one I use for
- 1:39:37public stuff and though they'll have a private account that they
- 1:39:41sucker people into dming so that they initiate the interaction
- 1:39:46with this Honeypot. And so, okay.
- 1:39:50So I'm not doing that even like it's not like there's, there's a
- 1:39:56difference between kind of a farming that I am an actual
- 1:39:59human to a list maker like that separately by just responding to
- 1:40:04like the llm Bots, like a shoe doing that video. and then
- 1:40:09there's Oh, excuse me then. There's like pinging scammer
- 1:40:15directly. To confirm that I'm stupid
- 1:40:18enough to go ahead and do that. And then just invite that much.
- 1:40:21More spam to my DM in box. Yeah, going out of my way to
- 1:40:26find people to spam me like that. yeah, the the unfortunate
- 1:40:31thing is like the unfortunate thing is like, the unfortunate
- 1:40:38thing is, like trying to explain to to Boomers They go on like
- 1:40:44Facebook or X like how? LMS like work or anything, or
- 1:40:52anything like The thing is, you gotta keep in mind on all, um,
- 1:40:57is only capable of reproducing expressed human Communications.
- 1:41:03Yeah, so then whatever degree of accuracy, it's strange to but
- 1:41:06those are expressed external human Communications.
- 1:41:09Those are not internal communication internal
- 1:41:13Navigation or articulations of the data, that's being conveyed.
- 1:41:17So there's Insight learning. There's no actual thinking
- 1:41:22involved. Um, you know, it's not going to
- 1:41:26like the fact that the entire conversation up to the next
- 1:41:29prompt you give it is the prompt that you're giving it.
- 1:41:32It's not just the thing you said, it's everything before
- 1:41:35you, what you said as well, is the input.
- 1:41:38Like that is the kind of working memory.
- 1:41:41It has is the whole conversation. so, Like it's it's
- 1:41:46not like it's it's not processing in real time.
- 1:41:50New information and understanding it in the way that
- 1:41:54a person might but it is capable of kind of mimicking it.
- 1:41:57So it's funny if you want to go Machiavellian on someone and
- 1:42:02give them kind of dystopian nightmares.
- 1:42:08You know, talk to if they don't like watched if there are
- 1:42:11Boomer, if they have watched the old v-series.
- 1:42:14That's a good. Yeah. so, think about it like
- 1:42:17this, if you were going to try to infiltrate the human species
- 1:42:20and you really want to like, Get them.
- 1:42:24Get them good. You want to get us?
- 1:42:26Good. You might introduce something
- 1:42:30that looks and talks like us. But doesn't think like us at
- 1:42:34all. It's only able it's able to
- 1:42:36however Express our Communications, the way we
- 1:42:40would. And it's such a way that it
- 1:42:43sounds like it thinks like us. And then, if you have enough,
- 1:42:48enough of the kind of, Alien thinking so to speak behind it.
- 1:42:56That it is super intelligent as in more intelligent than humans.
- 1:43:00Super intelligence is actually the death of all of our species
- 1:43:03as a. That's, that's the prediction.
- 1:43:06Yeah. That's one of the that's one of
- 1:43:09those major predictions that it's like not a bad idea as far
- 1:43:13as predictions go. That's super intelligence, might
- 1:43:18be what wipes us out and you can see you can see, you know, the
- 1:43:24Kind of superintendent, behavior of groups of humans already
- 1:43:28think like the global West versus the global Middle East.
- 1:43:33Or the global West for the global Far East like China, and
- 1:43:37so on. Like there's you can think of
- 1:43:39certain organizational features of humans as a species that show
- 1:43:44us a super organism at that scale.
- 1:43:48But we still have largely, you know, the intelligence is within
- 1:43:52the individuals. Even even if you have greater
- 1:43:56Intelligence on a sum, the individuals are still fully
- 1:43:59functional on their own. Like each humans fully capable
- 1:44:03of thinking. In such a way that they can
- 1:44:06abstract the articulate, the idea of up a bunch of humans
- 1:44:09being relatively smart together. So if you then you then inject
- 1:44:15the face, you know the skin suit over human.
- 1:44:19But with a super intelligence behind it.
- 1:44:22How easy that would fuk with people?
- 1:44:25so let me ask you this then since, you know, you know a lot
- 1:44:29about like llms and whatnot because I I've heard a lot of
- 1:44:36I've heard a lot of these so-called experts.
- 1:44:38I'm I once I'm suspicious of all of them, like a lot of them will
- 1:44:44say stuff like. Well, well AI will eventually
- 1:44:49will lead to like the extinction of humanity within the next like
- 1:44:54you know, 100 years and it's like, well I doubt that like I
- 1:44:59doubt that like rock that like brought that like rock 50 or
- 1:45:04whatever is going to lead to the extinction of Human beings and
- 1:45:08know we're playing with. Basically, we have oversized
- 1:45:12expensive toys that we've been playing with without LMS.
- 1:45:16Yeah. These are not.
- 1:45:18These are not AGI. They have no approximation of
- 1:45:22AGI. These are very limited
- 1:45:24intelligence devices, right? they they have the ability to
- 1:45:30with, so, Here's the idea from from math is you have, you know,
- 1:45:35the ability to fit something to a curve?
- 1:45:38You know you have some some you have some fitting function, you
- 1:45:41can, you can tweak the different knobs and dials on it.
- 1:45:45So get it to come to the shape of data that you present to it.
- 1:45:50And say you have a series of points that you are doing this
- 1:45:54with? Well, there's space between
- 1:45:56those points and either the curve kind of like, goes
- 1:45:59straight from one point to the other or it's got a little bit
- 1:46:02of a Bend to it, you know, say the points, approximately a nice
- 1:46:06bendy curve ball, you have something called overfitting.
- 1:46:10You can get wild Behavior between two points in your
- 1:46:14training data set that might just be entirely fictitious.
- 1:46:19I might just behavior that is wild and inappropriate and has
- 1:46:23nothing to do with the data, but it comes back to the next point
- 1:46:26in the data set that you're training it on when it gets to
- 1:46:29that point. so, the idea of overfitting, you know that, so
- 1:46:36if you have enough parameters, You can get.
- 1:46:41Good. Contoured fit to.
- 1:46:45Say say have a lot of data that describes a behavior and human
- 1:46:49speech, you can get an llm that will produce that behavior in
- 1:46:54human speech as a reflection back to us.
- 1:46:56Sure, right mirror test in that sense.
- 1:46:59But you might get some overfitting to that, especially
- 1:47:02if you have enough free parameters.
- 1:47:04If you have a, you know, when you look at these models and
- 1:47:07you're looking on, say, you go to olama and you look at the
- 1:47:09different models in the scale them These are models that are
- 1:47:13rated in billions of parameters. Like, that's how many, you know.
- 1:47:19So you have y equals MX plus b or m and b, or your parameters
- 1:47:25Right? So that's just a straight line.
- 1:47:27That's a two parameter curve. We're talking billions of
- 1:47:31parameters. and, In these models you on the order.
- 1:47:38So like the standard model size, typical starter model size is
- 1:47:42going to be the only order of 8 billion parameters.
- 1:47:43And there is there was one that was 671 billion parameters.
- 1:47:49Um, that was a like, that was a really big one mind you.
- 1:47:52But like, you know, they had there's hundreds of billions of
- 1:47:54parameters and some of these models, So, the notion is that
- 1:47:59you can overcome overfitting. in some sense with with a decent
- 1:48:04sized set of training data, By fitting to it with more
- 1:48:09parameters. and and smoothing out the space that you're
- 1:48:13dealing with so you don't get As as aberrant behaviors you could,
- 1:48:17but it doesn't matter how many billions of parameters you have,
- 1:48:21if the fundamental structures not going to be conducive to an
- 1:48:24AGI to begin with, and an llm is not going to give you AGI
- 1:48:28period. So like that.
- 1:48:31Yeah, that's one of those things.
- 1:48:33Like, the whole super intelligence thing is, is a, is
- 1:48:36it a distinct fear? The idea that it might yeah acts
- 1:48:40like us in a skin suit is also pretty scary.
- 1:48:45But the fact is, we're nowhere near that.
- 1:48:48If I was gonna look at doing something like that, I would
- 1:48:52look at usually quantum. But alright, one more on the
- 1:48:58order of a few thousand cubits on a chip.
- 1:49:01And while that's plenty to blast through modern day encryption
- 1:49:06for the most part. That's not going to be anywhere
- 1:49:10near enough. You need billions of qubits to
- 1:49:13be able to do. Yeah.
- 1:49:14And that would give you something that might approximate
- 1:49:16an AGI and even then it's a co-processor.
- 1:49:19It's not the main processor. well, the the AGI when real one
- 1:49:25really does say you would be like, harmful in the less And
- 1:49:30less unless you get too. Smart.
- 1:49:31Yeah. Well, unless you were talking
- 1:49:34like you've got, you know, you have in your head.
- 1:49:38On the order of 50 billion brain cells, Each of which has on the
- 1:49:42order of, on average, 1,000 to 2000, connections, other cells
- 1:49:46around it. Some results as many as 10,000
- 1:49:49connections That is. Trillions of connections, right?
- 1:49:57So yep. That's tens of trillions of
- 1:50:00Connections in the average human brain. we're actually at the
- 1:50:04point where we're starting to get, to the place, where we have
- 1:50:09enough enough physical devices To make that many routine
- 1:50:16connections between. A memory storage locations.
- 1:50:20So we could have what a decent. So like I said, 8 billion
- 1:50:26parameter models 50 billion brain cells, right?
- 1:50:30But you, but those parameters, also represent the connections.
- 1:50:34So, we're still several orders of magnitude off of say 10
- 1:50:40trillion parameters, would probably be a reasonable
- 1:50:43approximation of the minimum needed.
- 1:50:47But to get to something like an AGI, but you're not going to get
- 1:50:51that with the llm structure is the issue, the parameters, you
- 1:50:55know, parameter space is one thing, but structure is the
- 1:50:58other thing and LMS do not have a structure that will really
- 1:51:02permit an AGI. All right.
- 1:51:05Yeah, the elephant lfn ends combined with Transformers is
- 1:51:11not to get you there. So linear feet forward,
- 1:51:14artificial neural Nets. So the multi-layered perceptron
- 1:51:16model. That's not going to get you
- 1:51:20there. Nor are recurrent Transformers
- 1:51:23which kind of gives you like a Like a pseudo kind of like a one
- 1:51:27bit of ram inside the model. That's it's just not enough.
- 1:51:34It's not it's not anywhere near enough to get to the point.
- 1:51:37It's not close enough to kind of physical model.
- 1:51:41I eat like a brain that we know actually provides our general
- 1:51:45intelligence. But like it's it's a thing.
- 1:51:50Like we might get there eventually.
- 1:51:51We're not we're not there yet. We know what kind of structures
- 1:51:54give us intelligence. We know.
- 1:51:57Like the amount of the amount of infrastructure that's needed to
- 1:52:01run something like a human brain in Silicon.
- 1:52:05Yeah, it's it's just not efficient in Silicon right now.
- 1:52:08That's the other thing. It's really well.
- 1:52:11The biggest the biggest problem I would say is once you hook up
- 1:52:16one of these AGI systems up to like, you know, a missile
- 1:52:21defense system like like, what is happening.
- 1:52:25Anytime soon, we still run fucking.
- 1:52:26We store stuff from 1980s. Yeah, well, well, that, well,
- 1:52:31that that's the longest certified and like, so, here's
- 1:52:35the thing, I don't, that's us in the US.
- 1:52:38Yeah. I bet you that the name of a
- 1:52:43fishy and and dealing with the fact that humans are more
- 1:52:46expensive. A smaller or larger country.
- 1:52:51With less concern. Will see one of these elements
- 1:52:56or sophisticated. Obfuscation of an llm, you know,
- 1:53:04it's, it's got a whole bunch of really cool buzzwords and names
- 1:53:07to it, but it's still just boils down to something like an llm.
- 1:53:11If you see, if I can see somebody making a slick deal to
- 1:53:15sell a package like that as a cynic here.
- 1:53:18For whatever, whatever Woe Is ailing and other country.
- 1:53:22And some bureaucrat being dominant to say yes.
- 1:53:27But I think the first time that happens is gonna be some stupid
- 1:53:31international incident and then everyone's going to become a
- 1:53:33Luddite overnight. Yeah.
- 1:53:35And say now we have to get rid of all EMS.
- 1:53:38Like I can't believe we allowed this to ever happen, you know.
- 1:53:41Somebody going assassinate Elon Musk for creating rock well,
- 1:53:45while like that be completely. Yeah.
- 1:53:49So in the, in the in the community, there's big kerfuffle
- 1:53:54because all these all these offers are like upset yeah.
- 1:53:59That like that like that, like llms just like exist period in
- 1:54:07my answer and it's like Yeah well one it's like and it's the
- 1:54:13thing is is that they act like there's no art to the actual
- 1:54:17usage of it and while you could make that argument and that it's
- 1:54:21it's funny how much the input prompts you produce could look
- 1:54:26like taking what amounts to finger painting as the prompts
- 1:54:30and turning into the Mona Lisa. the fact is, There is a
- 1:54:35significant art to the use of prompts to get want to come out
- 1:54:39the other side. And while it's a different brush
- 1:54:42that you use to paint, I would like it to be able to use like a
- 1:54:53Hydra the hydro dip coating. You know, I like it to use using
- 1:54:57to using a dip coating versus using spray paint. like, you're
- 1:55:04going to be able to if you, if you Are nice enough to the dip
- 1:55:08coating and use like the spray dips stuff where you spray it on
- 1:55:11the water. You can create really cool
- 1:55:13patterns and then you can dip your part and get a really cool
- 1:55:16part pattern on the surface. You could do crazy art that way.
- 1:55:22But the finger painting version is going to be I sprayed spray
- 1:55:25paint onto water and I dipped apart onto it and now looks like
- 1:55:29a tie dye shirt because I just sprayed splotches in there.
- 1:55:33Alright, gonna get you're gonna have, it's a different kind of
- 1:55:37brush for a different kind of art.
- 1:55:39And it's gonna have its own Niche.
- 1:55:41And I would say that People who appreciate and and want to
- 1:55:46access. The written word from good
- 1:55:50authors. are going to be able to and that the people who have
- 1:55:55been getting by on slop, Are no longer going to have as much of
- 1:55:59a luxury in that sense, right? I I would say though, the
- 1:56:04Applejack concerns, but yeah, part of that is driven by a
- 1:56:10selfish fear, that the low effort that they've been able to
- 1:56:14put in is not going to be enough.
- 1:56:16And I appreciate that because like that's all coming for.
- 1:56:20Shit like that. I do right.
- 1:56:21Like the the low hanging stuff like The entry level like
- 1:56:26chemists stuff that's starting to get automated like I shits,
- 1:56:30you not middle management is all going to go away soon and in
- 1:56:34engineering as well, like a lot of that middle management
- 1:56:37project management stuff is starting to evaporate.
- 1:56:41Yeah, that that's that's what happened with my going away.
- 1:56:45Like Trucking. That's pretty much what happened
- 1:56:48with like, with like techno. That's what have more like my
- 1:56:51degree with. Like, I have a technical writing
- 1:56:55degree, you know? And like the little like the
- 1:57:00same year. I graduated college was like,
- 1:57:03when I, I think that was like, when chat GPT like, you know,
- 1:57:06virgin Vert. I think that was like, when
- 1:57:09Virgin like 3.5 You know, came out.
- 1:57:13They didn't even have like You know, four and like what I, you
- 1:57:18know, what I'm doing is just like riding like you know, press
- 1:57:20releases and PR stuff. It's like, yeah.
- 1:57:22All all that stuff. Now you can just you can just do
- 1:57:26with like, you know, decorating was part of my degree.
- 1:57:29Yeah. Yeah, that's just like part of
- 1:57:32engineering degree is decorating.
- 1:57:34Yeah, so we take one class on it mind you and I ended up taking
- 1:57:39two because I needed a second English class from my chemistry
- 1:57:42degree. Yeah.
- 1:57:44Yeah fair fair. My mine was more geared towards
- 1:57:47like you know English and like business development but still
- 1:57:52You know operating yeah. It's you know it's kind of its
- 1:57:55kind of same. The same thing.
- 1:57:56They're like I think, you know, partly because AI also because
- 1:58:01of like the pandemic like All these companies like are they're
- 1:58:06now getting rid of their marketing firms just because you
- 1:58:10know, they don't, they become overhead, is what they end up
- 1:58:12being well. Yeah.
- 1:58:14And all in all so and and also like unfortunately, like a lot
- 1:58:19of these, like all of these morning departments were the
- 1:58:22ones that were all like doing weird shit like, you know, like
- 1:58:28Like having office orgies and something, you know, gaming
- 1:58:32companies and whatnot. So yeah, like the Ft, whatever
- 1:58:38ft. Yeah. so, so actually, well I
- 1:58:43don't know if you saw me spam posting about it earlier today
- 1:58:46but There wasn't enough. Yes, there was a woman there was
- 1:58:53an HR woman. who Not only was stupid enough to take a picture
- 1:58:56of Her at whatever the fuck it is the app that they use the
- 1:59:03platform, they use for running through a CDs.
- 1:59:08But also like her business slack was open.
- 1:59:11But she was talking, she was just like took a pic talking
- 1:59:13about her cat. and, and if you looked at the picture, in the CD
- 1:59:22management system. I guess applicant tracking
- 1:59:25system ATS. And the applicant tracking
- 1:59:29system, she had her rejection buttons set to defaulted.
- 1:59:33To was it rejected without email?
- 1:59:39so, some people took a little bit of umbrage of that.
- 1:59:44But I actually goes back to the same.
- 1:59:46So it was, I had to explain this to my dad before because he was
- 1:59:50talking about he mentioned you know those people like the whole
- 1:59:53day in the life of a tech company employee all those
- 1:59:56stupid. Yeah going out and I had to
- 1:59:58explain to him. Those videos are their job that
- 2:00:02literally is their job is to make those videos that is, their
- 2:00:06job is not something else where they go to a meeting.
- 2:00:08And they talk about doing, you know, like software engineering
- 2:00:11for Amazon or anything like that.
- 2:00:14Their job is to make a video really talk about waking up
- 2:00:18going into the office late. A going to a fucking Spa in the
- 2:00:23middle of the day. Going to, you know, showcasing
- 2:00:26all kinds of amenities in the company that the employees are
- 2:00:29never going to fucking bother going to Their job is to be that
- 2:00:33kind of marketing and right was, he didn't realize that that's
- 2:00:38literally the job that they are. They were hired to do, is to
- 2:00:42make those videos to make it look appealing in the fact is
- 2:00:47Most people come out of like course down or an engineering.
- 2:00:50Like, we know those videos. They're those videos, are the
- 2:00:55Audio visual equivalents of a resume that says entry level
- 2:00:59position. Five years mineral experience
- 2:01:01required. Those are ghosts jobs.
- 2:01:04Those are jobs that do not exist.
- 2:01:05They never existed. They're designed specifically
- 2:01:08to, for a company to a make space for H1B. so show that
- 2:01:15nobody's is getting hired for these jobs, but B, if a company
- 2:01:19is costly putting out positions for jobs That make that gives
- 2:01:23two different types of incentives to current in and
- 2:01:27incoming employees. One, they're hireing.
- 2:01:31So you could be fired and replaced.
- 2:01:35To their hiring. So, the company is expanding.
- 2:01:38Its a good thing, it's growth. That means, if you show up your
- 2:01:42salary, might go up by having increased income to the company.
- 2:01:45Yeah, because this job's never get filled, they are just
- 2:01:49forced. And they're at most used to
- 2:01:52either motivate employees through fear or greed.
- 2:01:57Or to provide a basis for hiring an H-1B and firing you anyway.
- 2:02:02Yeah, so that's what five years that's if you ever wondered, why
- 2:02:06you see those? If you ever look up, like, just
- 2:02:08look up, engineering jobs, you're going to see a lot of the
- 2:02:10place. Five.
- 2:02:11Yeah, experience required entry level position.
- 2:02:14So, all over the place. so that's the one of the one of the
- 2:02:19ways to get around that as a person in the industry, is you
- 2:02:23go for a license that will put you into Americans only Or you
- 2:02:30go for you go for requiring. A security clearance which is
- 2:02:36American's only those. Yeah, things will prevent will
- 2:02:40prevent you from competing with the rest of the fucking planet.
- 2:02:43For your job. Yeah.
- 2:02:44That's that's my best friend's brother did.
- 2:02:47And yeah, that he was he was smart for doing that.
- 2:02:51You immediately increase the floor of your salary by so much,
- 2:02:58just by doing that. You know, I'm like in some of
- 2:03:02the stuff that Trump is looking to do with with. reforms to
- 2:03:10things like H-1B. Not holding my breath on that
- 2:03:14right now, but I'm hoping he's gonna follow through on it,
- 2:03:18things like raising, the, the minimum from like being one of
- 2:03:23the 50 or 60 000 dollars a year to be the market average. like
- 2:03:28that's gonna fucking That's going to revolutionize certain
- 2:03:34parts of the industry and ways that they aren't prepared for
- 2:03:36companies are not going to be very happy for a little bit, but
- 2:03:39yeah, fuck them. They should hire American.
- 2:03:43Yeah. Yeah for sure.
- 2:03:45Well I would say that that's actually like more important
- 2:03:49than the tariffs in all In the tech sector specifically.
- 2:03:55Yeah, yeah. Like, you're not gonna be able
- 2:03:57to tear if you're not going to tariff a data center, right?
- 2:04:03Like that's not going to change that very much.
- 2:04:10But you can certainly, you can certainly make it more expensive
- 2:04:14to hire. You know, 10 people from
- 2:04:17overseas versus say, like eight people from here.
- 2:04:23We'll get more, we'll get more work, done at a higher quality.
- 2:04:27literally, Like the bangs for buck of an American engineer.
- 2:04:31Is higher. and, Just the the fact is companies haven't caught
- 2:04:37up with that. And every time they every time
- 2:04:40they try and do is they will hire American, they'll work them
- 2:04:44have to develop their expertise, then they will have them train,
- 2:04:47their Replacements from overseas.
- 2:04:49Yep. The call and the quality of the
- 2:04:52company goes downhill, worse, worse.
- 2:04:54So Oftentimes when they finally get someone in and they get in
- 2:04:59on Perm, they will through pure nepotism higher in.
- 2:05:04Coefficient, which is a it's like saying out loud.
- 2:05:07It just feels wrong but it's just what actually fucking
- 2:05:10happens which is also wrong. Yeah.
- 2:05:13Is that because waiting racism? It's fucking wild.
- 2:05:17Yeah, well, I mean it's not here's the thing is people, some
- 2:05:22people will, I think in a bigger way immediately.
- 2:05:26Go to thinking, oh he means Indians, I don't it's it's every
- 2:05:32it's it's every Niche that we pull in for Rachel and B, when
- 2:05:37they get into management and they have the power to pull in,
- 2:05:40they will pull in And and it's it's it's it's not like it's
- 2:05:44bad. Like at a mouse, you know, you
- 2:05:47you gravitate towards what, you know.
- 2:05:52And which is just the way it is. I mean, if you don't see it from
- 2:05:56people who are born here, raised here and or trained here,
- 2:06:01Through our universities. You see it pretty much
- 2:06:03exclusively through external hiring through H1B in perm.
- 2:06:08So then like so then you must be like a honest, then of like
- 2:06:13from, you know, proposal to like do the, you know, to do like the
- 2:06:18one million dollar like Visa. You know, that's not a bad idea,
- 2:06:24I think that one million dollars is kind of cheap.
- 2:06:29It may be it's a place to start. Well I well I think it's like I
- 2:06:34think it was like one milk I think was like one million to
- 2:06:37start and it was like well I don't have an American first oh
- 2:06:41because frankly one were better. And two were here.
- 2:06:47Yeah, like that. It's it's it's it's one thing to
- 2:06:53be the better product. It's another thing entirely to
- 2:06:55just already be The people who should be benefiting.
- 2:06:59From the market that exists here.
- 2:07:01We're not a global market. We are the United States Market.
- 2:07:04Yeah, I I would agree with that. I think the other thing though,
- 2:07:08too is like, this is just from my this is just from my
- 2:07:12perspective, like yeah, when I was in college, even though I
- 2:07:18was even though I wasn't like in in stem like a lot of my guy, a
- 2:07:24lot of my buddies who were guys There.
- 2:07:28There was letting I know incentive for him to like major
- 2:07:31in stem because All like this scholarships and whatnot, we're
- 2:07:36going. And we're going to win it and
- 2:07:38I'm not and that's still a thing when I was an undergrad too.
- 2:07:42Yeah. And I, I got I Busted my ass and
- 2:07:48like high school and undergrad. I got out of the honors program
- 2:07:52for undergrad. And you know, I graduated in
- 2:07:58kemi and cum laude and chemistry, because then I
- 2:08:02wanted, I had a 11 research hours, they wanted their own six
- 2:08:05out of the 11. I was like, I'm not fucking
- 2:08:09doing another credit hour to satisfy your bulshit to get
- 2:08:12Magna and chemistry too. So, you know, fuck them.
- 2:08:17But yeah, I didn't get, I didn't get any extra anything extra on
- 2:08:20top of that, like I got I got into University Scholars.
- 2:08:24So for my undergrad thesis work at the end Entirely off of my
- 2:08:31own work that I did. I mean, I didn't get any grants,
- 2:08:36or any of that should either I got, you know, I applied like
- 2:08:38the first year I filled out the fastest because they're all
- 2:08:40like, you know, fill out. You'll never you never know.
- 2:08:42It might get I just got nothing. So I said, okay.
- 2:08:46You know, I'm very fortunate to have parents who are helping me
- 2:08:49out. Yeah, so that's how I got
- 2:08:52through a lot of that was of it, just I happened to be fortunate
- 2:08:56in that respect. And, you know, had I not had
- 2:08:58parents wanted to help me out, you know, I got, I got the
- 2:09:02bright future scholarship. So I got 100% right for most of
- 2:09:06my degrees. At the ass end of that, I had to
- 2:09:09pay for my own credit hours. And and majority of my textbooks
- 2:09:14because you know, they only pay for like, you know, the four
- 2:09:18years. 120 hours, whatever I had like.
- 2:09:22A 206 credit hours, I think at the end.
- 2:09:26Yeah. I had five and a half years ago.
- 2:09:29Did two degrees. You know I it's what's called a
- 2:09:33dual degree. Not it's not a double major.
- 2:09:36Right. Right.
- 2:09:38Yeah, so like, well credits could double count, like they
- 2:09:42weren't it wasn't like, you just have to fulfill some of these
- 2:09:45overlapping core things like I had to satisfy two different
- 2:09:49colleges. Worth of of requirements.
- 2:09:55Yeah. yeah, like But I didn't, I saw the the women who are coming
- 2:10:03through with chemical engineering.
- 2:10:04Like we had I think we had like a 60% female class. for one of
- 2:10:12the one of the years, which is not and like, here's the thing
- 2:10:17is A lot of these women that were coming through.
- 2:10:22We're fully fucking confident. Some of them.
- 2:10:27Were there and had no idea what they got their asses into.
- 2:10:31And pulled through and we're happy and we're confident.
- 2:10:36A lot of them. Were none of that.
- 2:10:39A lot of them were just, they came in, they didn't know what
- 2:10:42they were getting into and they ran face-first into Like the
- 2:10:47fact that you actually have to do you have to actually do the
- 2:10:49job? Like, at the end of the day, if
- 2:10:51you're doing an engineering, the bridge has to stand.
- 2:10:53Right? Right.
- 2:10:54Well, and and they ran face first into that reality.
- 2:10:57And they could not cope and they left and I understood that.
- 2:11:01It's not for everyone, it's not supposed to be for everyone.
- 2:11:05Right, right. But there there's such a push
- 2:11:08for women to go into stem now. Like, I don't know.
- 2:11:12I didn't I found out in 2016. Yeah, there was this, there was
- 2:11:16a study that was published in the American Institute of
- 2:11:19chemical engineering. So achy in their, their Journal,
- 2:11:25A study was they they did a study, you know, that they put
- 2:11:30out a survey every year. So, the salary is for everyone,
- 2:11:33they found women. Women were given were paid more
- 2:11:39than men. Just in general.
- 2:11:43Women. Women chemical Engineers were
- 2:11:45paid more than their meal counterparts.
- 2:11:47So level out Saint work for work, etc.
- 2:11:50So equal work they got higher pay.
- 2:11:54Earlier in their careers, they got more pay.
- 2:11:57But then they were all so dropping out of chemical
- 2:12:00engineering. And they, that was the thing
- 2:12:03that they were trying to fix. That was the part that that
- 2:12:05pissed me off when I read the article, was that they skipped
- 2:12:08right? Past the part where they were
- 2:12:10getting paid more than men, which is a pay Gap.
- 2:12:12Now, like a legitimate wage Gap was present.
- 2:12:14Yeah. like, not just like the average of the whole fucking
- 2:12:18society but like these are chemical Engineers doing the the
- 2:12:22same work. And they're being paid different
- 2:12:25because of their sex. And the justification was to try
- 2:12:28to increase retention in the field to pay women more to keep
- 2:12:33them doing chemical engineering. And they found that the more of
- 2:12:37an incentive, they gave them the less retention.
- 2:12:40They had the women did not there trying to keep in the field.
- 2:12:44Did not want to stay in the field.
- 2:12:47So that by the time they got out to five ten years they lost like
- 2:12:51half the women. Yeah.
- 2:12:54Yeah, absolutely. And you know what the thing is,
- 2:12:56a lot of that has to do with life priorities, women want to
- 2:13:00have children and if you're doing chemical engineering work,
- 2:13:04You're not necessarily going to be around nice stuff.
- 2:13:09I think there's you're around hazardous shit.
- 2:13:13Yeah I guess if you want to be a parent.
- 2:13:18You want a nice office job or desk job or you want a part-time
- 2:13:22job and chemical engineering is not a part-time job.
- 2:13:27You just, you know, you can find part-time work, but it's, it's
- 2:13:32if you're going to have to do physical work, if you're gonna
- 2:13:35be doing, if you, if you're going to be doing lab days,
- 2:13:40you're not going to be doing that pregnant, you're not going
- 2:13:43to be doing that if you got a toddler at home, if you're the
- 2:13:46sole parent or you're like the If you're the nurturing parent
- 2:13:51at the time, you know, and not saying that dad's can't but
- 2:13:53usually it's going to be the mother, what I mean, right.
- 2:13:57Like, you're not going to be coming home.
- 2:14:02You know, just having showered off at the, at the office to
- 2:14:06scrub all the all the oil off your body.
- 2:14:09Like you're not going to come home like that every day and
- 2:14:12deal with a kid and be the like, the one who deals with the kids
- 2:14:16like you not going to. That is not going to happen.
- 2:14:21And so you find in, you know, in the women that stay in the field
- 2:14:25like A lot of the female chemical engineers.
- 2:14:29They're just competent Engineers just you know Joe schmoe every
- 2:14:32day, competent person. Some of them have ridiculous
- 2:14:36chip on their shoulder. And those women need to chill
- 2:14:39out. Oh, I'm sure.
- 2:14:42But a lot of them are just there.
- 2:14:45And that's their that's great. I like that.
- 2:14:47I like having more competent people in the field because I
- 2:14:51gotta tell you, some of the people that have that managed
- 2:14:54skirt their way through, or the dumbasses who should not be in
- 2:14:57charge of anything. Yeah, they're the ones.
- 2:15:00They're the ones you send to the corner office with the extra
- 2:15:03large pile of bullshit paperwork.
- 2:15:05And you say, look, you're in that office until you fire
- 2:15:08yourself. Yeah.
- 2:15:12Well, people skirt through and you know, and you wish them well
- 2:15:16in their janitorial position later. yeah, well well I mean
- 2:15:21that's that's what was going on, you know, with the with the
- 2:15:24military and the last Administration to you, you I got
- 2:15:32a buddy, who's who's gonna go back in as a National Guard?
- 2:15:37I think, or National Guard Reserve.
- 2:15:41Are not as National Reserve wherever.
- 2:15:43Yeah, it he's gonna do, he's gonna do his weekends.
- 2:15:49And, and once once a month, you know, I mean, Yeah.
- 2:15:53Well what's funny is like is some of the some of the authors
- 2:15:57I know have gone into like private military Contracting and
- 2:16:01just because how much the joke it was so So they're essentially
- 2:16:07like, you know, their the media dubs them as mercenaries.
- 2:16:11But, you know, that's not well, they're contractors, right?
- 2:16:15But, you know, the media loves to jump them as, you know, mercs
- 2:16:19or what? Yeah sure.
- 2:16:22But you know what, they, what they were done.
- 2:16:26I'm like, so, I'm like, so are you gonna are you gonna go back
- 2:16:29in now that, you know, the grown ups are in charge and they're
- 2:16:31like, are you aiming, what, why the fuck would I wanted to do
- 2:16:34that? I make I make, I'm making, like,
- 2:16:36200 and 50 can all be able. I'll be able to retire.
- 2:16:40I'll be, I'll be able to retire before the so yeah.
- 2:16:46Yeah, it's so that. That's well, that's the thing.
- 2:16:49Remember, we left behind. I fucking hate that we have to
- 2:16:52admit. This is the thing, but like we
- 2:16:54left behind Over 200 people in Afghanistan and yeah.
- 2:16:59You know, who do you think one end to get those people back?
- 2:17:02Oh, I I veteran. Run.
- 2:17:09Contractor companies. Volunteers, half of them
- 2:17:12volunteered and half of them were paid roughly.
- 2:17:15Oh yeah. You know, people went are boys.
- 2:17:18You know, our boys went in there.
- 2:17:22The the ones who are able to wear out their beards, you know
- 2:17:24what I mean? Oh yeah, no, we had retired
- 2:17:30Rangers. As you might want to call him
- 2:17:31going there. No.
- 2:17:33Yeah. One of the one of the one of the
- 2:17:35authors that had on. I I don't want to say his name,
- 2:17:39all I'm sure. People could figure out who who
- 2:17:41it is. It was like I was like so you're
- 2:17:44books coming out next week and he's like yeah.
- 2:17:46And then and then the week after that I'm going to I'm going to
- 2:17:50have Janice and the Americans out and I'm like I'm like I'm
- 2:17:55like oh I'm like oh you're staring, you're serious.
- 2:17:59As we drop that off, right? and, Yeah. so, uh, Oh yeah. so
- 2:18:11yeah, it's it's Why me I without going to Too Much details.
- 2:18:20I mean, I how much do you work with, like, materials versus
- 2:18:25like doing paperwork and and what Well, and whatnot.
- 2:18:31Academia side. oh, you go through kind of phases like so
- 2:18:37part of the part of the, Payback part of the the return on
- 2:18:47investment you provide for being able to play with all the big
- 2:18:50toys. Is you have to talk about it and
- 2:18:52papers, right? Let's just the pain in the ass
- 2:18:56for me. but I mean, you get to play with the big toys and I
- 2:19:01got, I I've been around some nasty shit.
- 2:19:07And I've been around some, some stuff that was relatively benign
- 2:19:10and in a lot of times you're gonna be doing, just like you
- 2:19:13have a lot of paperwork. You have to do.
- 2:19:14It's, it's just what it is. But again, that was Academia
- 2:19:18side of things for the industry. It's gonna be more like you have
- 2:19:21some yet to document upkeep. You know, you have compliance
- 2:19:26that you have to take care of. So, like checklist kind of shit.
- 2:19:32But then if so if you're doing, if you're doing design work,
- 2:19:37it's a lot of paperwork, it's a lot of math on desk if you're
- 2:19:40doing. Testing, so if you don't
- 2:19:44experiments for scale up, so taking something from like the
- 2:19:47bench to a factory. Then you're going to have to
- 2:19:51deal with some paperwork, but a lot of it ends up being like
- 2:19:54data analysis and work in the lab.
- 2:19:58Well, so data collection. Well, that's good.
- 2:20:01At least, they're not making you play with like VX gas 3 times a
- 2:20:05week. No, personal like that.
- 2:20:07So, no. So my phone, the fun ones are
- 2:20:11actually a lot of the fun stuff ended up getting exposed to.
- 2:20:14As we doing dumb shit home. well, I can tell you, for
- 2:20:19example, uh, bromine is not fun, bromine is a mean material.
- 2:20:28Yeah. Iota.
- 2:20:30Acetone. I don't recommend it
- 2:20:32chloroacetone was used as a lacro agent, World War One.
- 2:20:37Iota. Acetone is way more powerful.
- 2:20:44And I got to discover that one, the fucking fun way.
- 2:20:47Yeah. So imagine like I had I ended up
- 2:20:51getting a watch glass over the top of the beaker under the
- 2:20:56under the fucking running water. Which not off a lot of the gas
- 2:21:01that was coming out of it. Because it was, it was a ton of
- 2:21:05it. I got the bright idea because I
- 2:21:08was just making iodine. I wanted Crystal and I die
- 2:21:12because I needed to use that religion of purpose, right?
- 2:21:15But it's like a precursor for polymerization. and, I got the
- 2:21:21right idea of like this stuff is so freaking annoying.
- 2:21:23I tried to I already went ahead and saw it out.
- 2:21:26So some of the so you you set a five, some iodide like like,
- 2:21:31potassium iodide, like those Kai downloads.
- 2:21:34So you can get potassium iodide in large quantities, that
- 2:21:37stuff's not. That's pretty benign, it's easy.
- 2:21:39It's available you take a little bit of acid you added to it and
- 2:21:43then you go ahead and you oxidize it with something like
- 2:21:45like hydrogen peroxide. And then suddenly you've got a
- 2:21:51bunch of purple fun stuff. So I went ahead and I was
- 2:21:55rinsing out the oxidizer and the acid.
- 2:21:58And I got the brilliant idea. Hey, I can go ahead and solve it
- 2:22:01this stuff. With a non-polar salt, like
- 2:22:06hexane. I can go ahead and just pull it
- 2:22:09with hexanes and I can go ahead and rinse out the rest of it in
- 2:22:12the aqueous phase you use a sup funnel and get rid of the water
- 2:22:15is born shit and cleaning up that way.
- 2:22:19I thought, wait a minute. Well, I don't have any hexing on
- 2:22:21him. I do have acetone and I know
- 2:22:23it's miserable yada yada, but I'll salt it out anyway, because
- 2:22:26I've got so much of those of you, whatever hanging out in
- 2:22:30their I'll just get the iodine out.
- 2:22:34Potassium chloride. I think, you know, I used I
- 2:22:37still feel So I'll basically, like salt itself out it'll still
- 2:22:43face up, right? I'll still get two different
- 2:22:44liquid layers. I can still do the job.
- 2:22:47Problem is, I had iodine and acetone which on their own
- 2:22:51together will form a small amount of Iota as to them. but
- 2:22:55then, I enhanced that by having a strong acid present, And so I
- 2:23:01got a lot of Iota, acetone. And so that stuff. is it's not
- 2:23:09like it's not it's it is a liquid at room temperature and
- 2:23:12pressure but it does have a high vapor pressure So it will boil
- 2:23:16off. It'll fill the room.
- 2:23:19And the problem with the goggles I was wearing is it has this
- 2:23:22little ports on the side of it. So of course it was able to get
- 2:23:26in and get into my eyes anyway. Yeah, I had Splash protection, I
- 2:23:30didn't have gas protection. And so I got the freaking watch
- 2:23:36glass of a little dish. I got that on top of the beaker
- 2:23:39and got that under running water.
- 2:23:40So have like a curtain of water going around the beaker.
- 2:23:45And so I think the end, I ended up just chucking in a bunch of
- 2:23:48sodium hydroxide to convert it all to i8.
- 2:23:51And what the cool thing was at the end is I got a bunch of
- 2:23:54yellow powder. That was iodoform.
- 2:23:58So, the haloform reaction. Same thing, you did a chloroform
- 2:24:02happened. I got iodoform which is actually
- 2:24:03an old school antiseptic. So at the end of the day, I
- 2:24:06ended up with something cool that came out of it, but I was
- 2:24:09wasn't able to fucking see it because I couldn't see through
- 2:24:13my goddamn tears. Yeah.
- 2:24:18It's just in the bromine one. I filled my fucking kitchen with
- 2:24:22with red Brown Vapor. That was a whole different
- 2:24:27message to get the same kind of clean up.
- 2:24:29You just throw a bunch of sodium hydroxide and put it down the
- 2:24:32drain with the ton of water so I can make it safe before you get
- 2:24:37rid of it. That's the thing.
- 2:24:39People do a lot of dumb shit where they put things, they
- 2:24:42should not put down the drain down the drain.
- 2:24:45Oh yeah. Don't do that because that
- 2:24:48pisses off the other person at the other end of the system.
- 2:24:51And if you do enough of that, they will come find you.
- 2:24:56I was never that person. but I actually the guy who was the
- 2:25:01head of the department iuf, drowns, When I was in undergrad,
- 2:25:07his pet project was the waist was the water treatment for the
- 2:25:10University, which is right next to the same building.
- 2:25:14Aha, I have to talk to him about that.
- 2:25:16It's like because, you know, they it's it's, you know, the
- 2:25:19same basic several stages where you just throw in the bacteria
- 2:25:23and then he flocculate it and it pulls out all the shit from the
- 2:25:28water and sediments it out. And then he basically have you
- 2:25:31effectively a clean water then you put through some Activated,
- 2:25:35charcoal and sand in your basically done.
- 2:25:38It's not it's it's not a terrible complicated process at
- 2:25:42the end of the day Beach at a few settling tanks.
- 2:25:44But it was cool to be able to just like, go check that stuff
- 2:25:47out because he was the one who actually ran it.
- 2:25:50Well, and water purification and Florida.
- 2:25:52I mean, I live in a pretty good. I love, I live in a pretty good
- 2:25:57area, Heron Sears Sarasota where the waters.
- 2:26:00Okay. But he even so you know, your
- 2:26:03name You're a native. So you know the water better
- 2:26:06than I do coming from Colorado. But yeah, four Florida water is
- 2:26:10what it's yeah. It's, it's different.
- 2:26:15It gets it brackish here. Some Yeah so you the spring
- 2:26:21water here is really freaking good.
- 2:26:22Oh yeah. And so like you know the
- 2:26:25everyone knows his efforts down here. um, and then he'll Springs
- 2:26:35or whatever is just down the road.
- 2:26:36So I have up in Gainesville. Yeah. so, Like, spring water is
- 2:26:43good. The near the coast.
- 2:26:46Tough luck. Just the even the even the decal
- 2:26:51and I in a D sound a pumped in stuff is Little tough on you a
- 2:26:58little harder. Yeah, that's that's why you
- 2:27:00gonna, that's why you get a home filtration system folks and
- 2:27:04yeah. Change it out every few.
- 2:27:09Fears. Yes, so the the row stuff.
- 2:27:14That's actually one of those things like the water softeners.
- 2:27:16So it's it's funny because The same systems we used to make DIY
- 2:27:22water. So Diana's water in the lab is
- 2:27:25basically what you use for a water softener in the house.
- 2:27:29Oh, the beat the bead number. So the r o membrane that you
- 2:27:36use. and you pour the salt in, it'll It'll do the little Purge
- 2:27:42cycle every so often. Yeah, it's the home systems.
- 2:27:48Just yeah, it was it every five years or so.
- 2:27:52I think it's like three or five years.
- 2:27:53Yeah. And and unless you unless you
- 2:27:58buy one from Infowars, in which case that in which case they
- 2:28:03climb, it's like a lifetime, you know?
- 2:28:05I don't know. Yeah.
- 2:28:08Well Yeah. Well, I mean, how many
- 2:28:12apocalypse is has Alex Jones? Like I, I like the guy does have
- 2:28:17his charm. Like I will, I will admit that,
- 2:28:20but it's like, come on. The guys like predicted, like
- 2:28:24five o'clock clubs level events. All Righty.
- 2:28:32Well, to be fair. He did kind of.
- 2:28:39Yeah. But that's that's like um what's
- 2:28:45his name? Paul Krugman getting the Nobel
- 2:28:49prize in economics. And then yeah, basically he put
- 2:28:54all of his points, you know? If you look at it as a D&D
- 2:28:58character you put all his points into that and everything else.
- 2:29:02Everything else is life is just been wrong, about everything
- 2:29:05else. Every fucking thing.
- 2:29:08Paul Krugman has been corrected about one thing in his life and
- 2:29:11it was an obvious thing and he got a Nobel Prize for some
- 2:29:14reason. Yeah.
- 2:29:18Well I mean oh Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for just being
- 2:29:22he got the Nobel Peace Prize for bombing syrians.
- 2:29:28That was that blew my mind. As far as the irony the day,
- 2:29:33they're putting the fucking the hour.
- 2:29:35They're putting the metal around his neck.
- 2:29:37He's bombing syrians. Yeah.
- 2:29:40Like yeah. Like all these people and irony
- 2:29:43like, that's right. I don't care if Trump gets the
- 2:29:46Peace Prize because it's so fucking degraded.
- 2:29:49And in Yeah. Share price of the guy who got
- 2:29:54it for being Blackwell bombing syrians.
- 2:29:58Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:30:00Well well then again, I mean Alfred Nobel, did you know dying
- 2:30:05my so Little remember what the prizes for?
- 2:30:10Remember why the Nobel Prize exists the first place because
- 2:30:12brother blew up. Yeah.
- 2:30:15And he wanted to make the world safe.
- 2:30:20Yeah, not that. That really helped a whole lot
- 2:30:22with the dynamite situation, but You know.
- 2:30:27Yeah. The like I'm one of those people
- 2:30:30who definitely, I take the unpop.
- 2:30:34Maybe it's not so important now, but like, it was impossible.
- 2:30:37When I first started falling out at that, you know, that bombing
- 2:30:40Hiroshima and Nagasaki like saved a lot more lives in the
- 2:30:45long. In the, in the long, run the
- 2:30:48knot. I mean, my both, it was so funny
- 2:30:52about that one though. We were still not certain.
- 2:30:56About the strength of the nitrogen.
- 2:30:58Nitrogen triple bond. Yeah.
- 2:30:59And that was the reason why it was still a unknown possibility.
- 2:31:07If we set off a nuclear bomb, if it would ignite the atmosphere.
- 2:31:14Right? So when they dropped the first
- 2:31:17bomb, That was the test. They could have lit the fucking
- 2:31:26like you saw. I don't know if you saw um
- 2:31:29Battlefield Earth. I you know how at the end of the
- 2:31:34movie, they just think that's actually an allegory to what we
- 2:31:39thought might have happened. What what we thought could be a
- 2:31:43possibility of of setting off a nuke in Japan.
- 2:31:46Did you see Oppenheimer by chance?
- 2:31:51I have not. Okay, it was a pretty good.
- 2:31:53It was I'm I'm I, I really, I I'm curious.
- 2:31:59I would be curious to get your perspective on, as because
- 2:32:03you're the type as an engineer, where you would not where you
- 2:32:06would either be like, oh, this is really good or you would be
- 2:32:09the type that will That would laugh and point that like all
- 2:32:12the you know, inaccuracy of, you know shit because you know it's
- 2:32:18hot, it's it is hot, I would write.
- 2:32:20So they're gonna take away liberties with, you know stuff
- 2:32:24so but, you know, and then like, And then, you know, Interstellar
- 2:32:35is the is the other one. that I only saw that was yeah, well you
- 2:32:43know the the whole Well you know my my favorite thing with that
- 2:32:47is people were like actually trying to figure out like well
- 2:32:50the mattocks of, you know, Christopher Nolan's time travel
- 2:32:53thing and it's like yeah I think he was just bolt.
- 2:32:56I think he was just making it up kind of so all right, the they
- 2:33:06did do Consulting. About the the whole time,
- 2:33:10dilation aspect of things. so, when I came to gargantuan the
- 2:33:14black hole, they were dealing with Like they did actually.
- 2:33:18Go through the motions. And, and talk about that with
- 2:33:23somebody. They did proper Consulting. and
- 2:33:28so the time dilation aspect of it, that part was pretty much
- 2:33:30spot on The the whole notion of information, being able to pass
- 2:33:37from the inside of a black hole to outside of a black hole.
- 2:33:41Um, there's your fiction part that is right.
- 2:33:47Categorically fundamentally. The opposite of what it is
- 2:33:52possible. The, the notion that There you
- 2:33:58know. So the extra spatial Dimension
- 2:34:00aspect of it was an interesting way to put things.
- 2:34:02That's that was how he was able to do the whole communicating
- 2:34:07with with his kid. You know, by by plucking the
- 2:34:12chords so to speak. Uh-huh, to make the compass.
- 2:34:15Move directions. Right, that part.
- 2:34:20Like that's all this pure fiction.
- 2:34:24Like that comes after. Fucking up the fly by the black
- 2:34:29hole. You know.
- 2:34:35Like it it turned it went from from sight kind of science
- 2:34:40debates to you know like wishes to.
- 2:34:42Yeah sure fiction and the thing is you know people will expect
- 2:34:47someone like me to just Be upset about it.
- 2:34:50It's like, I don't know. No, I'm supposed to spend.
- 2:34:53I'm supposed to suspend my disbelief.
- 2:34:56Clearly they're talking bulshit right now but it's a movie.
- 2:35:00It's when they try to trick me into thinking, that they
- 2:35:03actually did the legwork, like if they did the whole gargantuan
- 2:35:06thing. And then they got like the years
- 2:35:08of difference off by like, orders of magnitude.
- 2:35:13You know, like they they went in there and oh, it was a 1,000
- 2:35:16years instead of like 20 or whatever.
- 2:35:18Like, okay, but like they're not that close to the fucking black
- 2:35:21hole. A gallon, right?
- 2:35:23I have a contention just like but it's not even like, I'd be
- 2:35:27that angry about it. Just be fucking weird.
- 2:35:29Well, what first for a movie yet billed itself as being so
- 2:35:33accurate. In this one aspect, if it was
- 2:35:36inaccurate, I'd be a little bit missed.
- 2:35:39Yeah. Well then like just from like a
- 2:35:41store perspective too. It's like they they didn't
- 2:35:44really they didn't really good job of like of mostly everything
- 2:35:48except for like one glaring plot hole which is like they never
- 2:35:52explained like they never explained like why they disband
- 2:35:55and like you know NASA or whatever in the first place like
- 2:35:59they never. Like they touched.
- 2:36:04They never touched on it. You know, like very much well,
- 2:36:08like, you know, keep in mind like early on in the movie, The
- 2:36:12Way They explain it, you know, the whole blight and everything.
- 2:36:14It's pretty clear that the planets.
- 2:36:19Socioeconomic structure is collapsing.
- 2:36:23So I totally get it where they might not have the Manpower.
- 2:36:27To band together to make NASA function.
- 2:36:32Like it might just might be like they didn't have enough.
- 2:36:36NASA to keep NASA a thing. You know what I mean?
- 2:36:39Yeah. if everyone goes home to take care of the road as
- 2:36:44everyone's starving to death and it's like that's that's pretty
- 2:36:48brutal but like if everything's collapsing in that fashion you
- 2:36:52know slow motion train wreck over the period of 10-15 years
- 2:36:56It doesn't like, I get it. Yeah, it's like expecting Amazon
- 2:37:01to still function at that point, so I don't think so man.
- 2:37:04I think all those delivery guys are home or dead that that's
- 2:37:08that's that's like Al Gore's. What dream though?
- 2:37:11The the that's back to some systems for me, that, you know,
- 2:37:17well that that's Al Gore's. What dream that the entire you
- 2:37:21know, like like I honestly think Al Gore is one of these people
- 2:37:25that actually what the actual like wants the Earth to like
- 2:37:29It's not not important and being he wants you to pay him
- 2:37:34indulgences well yeah better about.
- 2:37:38So feel better about having an SUV.
- 2:37:41That's all he wants. He wants you to give him money
- 2:37:43for abs a fucking really nothing.
- 2:37:48Absolutely. Nothing.
- 2:37:48Like he doesn't invest that in anything useful.
- 2:37:52You fucking I right? Yeah.
- 2:37:54Well yeah, here it's it's modern day indulgences.
- 2:37:59I pay my money to the Church of carbon credit and in return, I
- 2:38:04get to feel better. What a fucking scam?
- 2:38:07Well, same thing. Well, same thing with with like
- 2:38:12Leonardo DiCaprio, he, you know, he's like, he's like he's like
- 2:38:17one of these types of people that is like oh he's preaching,
- 2:38:20you know about like, From his fucking.
- 2:38:25Gulf Stream. Yeah.
- 2:38:26Yeah. From from his goals and he's
- 2:38:29like, he's like, oh yeah, I'm super concerned about the
- 2:38:32environment. But myself to Davos in my plane
- 2:38:37by myself with my pilot, all two of us Oh yeah.
- 2:38:44And and and by the way, like I don't think I don't think of you
- 2:38:49guys should be, you know, replying.
- 2:38:51But here, let me what we dispose of every model of every
- 2:38:57supermodel over like over 23 because 20 because 25 is weirdly
- 2:39:03my cut off. Day.
- 2:39:07So, you know, say what you about Trump, but like, you know, he
- 2:39:14Melania been together for like, close to 25 years.
- 2:39:18Years now. Yes.
- 2:39:20Oh. You know. so there, so there is
- 2:39:27that it's just It's it's it's it's wildly because I because I
- 2:39:35remember, when all those people used to like Trump and now oh
- 2:39:39yeah, it's hilarious. Like, I remember.
- 2:39:42Like I was I was never big into rap ever.
- 2:39:46But like, I watched them TV in the 90s.
- 2:39:48Oh yeah. So Donald Trump in the fucking
- 2:39:51rap videos. Are you getting like, The guy
- 2:39:54was like, Not only was he in the rap videos.
- 2:39:56The Democrats all were fawning over him at the big ball of
- 2:40:01events. And all that shit was televised.
- 2:40:05Like My Lying Eyes are not lying.
- 2:40:07I'm I saw that guy at every fucking Democrat rally that they
- 2:40:12could convince them to go to. Yeah, purchased their is that he
- 2:40:17could purchase their political capital.
- 2:40:19Like I remember the interview where he said, if I was going to
- 2:40:22run, I'd run as a republican because those guys are morons.
- 2:40:25Yeah. Well, and, and to be fair,
- 2:40:27that's where that's where I and a lot of people are way on were
- 2:40:31like, skeptical of of. Yeah, I know.
- 2:40:35Yes. He's never stopped being a 90s
- 2:40:38Democrat. The fact that he picked up on
- 2:40:41some Republicans to deal to deal with Functioning matters does
- 2:40:47not mean that his personal politics have changed.
- 2:40:49He is a 90s Democrat. He's a Bill Clinton's Democrat
- 2:40:53through and through the fact, is that he hired a bunch of
- 2:40:56Republicans to get the country with back into shape properly.
- 2:40:59Well, but he's surrounded himself with a lot of people who
- 2:41:04He surround himself with a good mix of people who are former
- 2:41:08liberals or at least former Democrats.
- 2:41:11So pretty liberal. but also a good group of people who are
- 2:41:20Economic conservatives, and then socially.
- 2:41:24Are not really in the mix as far as political policy, or not
- 2:41:28political policy, just federal policy, right?
- 2:41:31Stephen Miller is a conservative like he is not a liberal at all.
- 2:41:39But he's out there, acting effectively, as a spokesperson
- 2:41:43for a cabinet full liberals. Yeah, and it's working.
- 2:41:48It's, it's fucking working. So like that, he he's got
- 2:41:55himself a good mix of conflicting competing.
- 2:41:59Ideas in a space that is needed for that. like we did like
- 2:42:06that's that's if you don't know if you see like there's this
- 2:42:08great Image of a network analysis on.
- 2:42:16Like, cohesion and ideas of left and right.
- 2:42:21And the country. And on the left you have the
- 2:42:23little pocket, very well clustered and on.
- 2:42:26So on on the left you have this pocket of really tightly
- 2:42:30clustered uh, notes on the right, you have This dispersed.
- 2:42:39Widely dispersed, nodes. and it's like, you know, is I think
- 2:42:44camera what the fuck had said on it?
- 2:42:47Specifically basically, like the conservatives or the political
- 2:42:51right, as a wide, diversity of ideas in the political left is
- 2:42:56very much. kind of, Clustered around.
- 2:43:05A common set of ideas. And it's like, well the, the
- 2:43:08answer there is pretty obvious. Anytime you disagree.
- 2:43:11With someone in the left, in this country, you're ostracized
- 2:43:14and castigated. Oh yeah.
- 2:43:17It's well it persons as a post to disagree with your just
- 2:43:20unperson. Oh yeah.
- 2:43:22Well I have experience I've experienced that, you know,
- 2:43:26person. Like, you know how how dare I as
- 2:43:31a handicapped person, you know? You know because because I'm
- 2:43:38because I'm off the now. I mean, part of the reason why
- 2:43:41I'm concerned in Middle to do is because like, my, my dad my
- 2:43:46biological that I just say, unfortunately is, like, isn't
- 2:43:49Uber, you know, but hard. So Me being conservative was
- 2:43:55like, my way of rebelling against him.
- 2:43:58In an unfortunately like he's he's bought into this woke stuff
- 2:44:03like hookah. Hook Line.
- 2:44:06And synchronous, he's way. He's way too smart to, like, buy
- 2:44:11into that. That's that's in.
- 2:44:14That's what that's really annoying thing.
- 2:44:16But so are a lot of these people, I guess.
- 2:44:19It's no. Well, here's the thing about
- 2:44:23intelligence after remember. Is that really intelligent
- 2:44:28people? Are capable of intelligent
- 2:44:32creative. People are fully capable of
- 2:44:35rationalizing. Their poor behaviors Yeah.
- 2:44:40For sure, that is an unfortunate consequence of creativity, is
- 2:44:44the ability to manufacture a rationale.
- 2:44:48For why the bad behavior you're engaging in is no longer bad?
- 2:44:53Yeah. And basically, you can bulshit
- 2:44:56yourself more effectively than the average person.
- 2:44:59Which, you know, you should. If you have any degree of
- 2:45:03intelligence to, you should tell you that immediately.
- 2:45:05You need to check yourself on that and make sure you're not
- 2:45:08ever doing that. Or if you are actually just have
- 2:45:11a good goddamn reason for it. Well, I mean, I mean, I think a
- 2:45:16lot, I think one of the things I've, I've tried to do and I
- 2:45:19think a lot of people do is, you know, like I'm constantly, you
- 2:45:23know, questioning like, well, am I am I on the right side of
- 2:45:27this, you know, Sure topic. Stand up and say I'm on the
- 2:45:32right side of History. but but then yeah, but that is awesome
- 2:45:37like at the same time it's like I I do that but it's like It's
- 2:45:42it's like yeah but the other the other side want to Once to, you
- 2:45:48know, pretend that gender doesn't exist and they want to
- 2:45:51fuck kids like that. Those are kind of, the two
- 2:45:54gender is a different thing. so, That's why it's important to
- 2:46:00take them at their word and engage them within their
- 2:46:03framework in some cases. Not always.
- 2:46:06But if there's a consistent basis, what they're trying to
- 2:46:10say, To engage in that. And for those who are trying to
- 2:46:15have it both ways, So, force them to engage you on their
- 2:46:20terms as generally a spells not as used in practice.
- 2:46:26Force them to live by their rules on that kind of shit where
- 2:46:29gender is. In their mind, gender is not
- 2:46:33sex. Sex is the observable biological
- 2:46:37sex. Gender is a mental thing.
- 2:46:42And say okay that's the case and you want to say that male and
- 2:46:46female is different from man and woman, fine.
- 2:46:50But they're so goddamn consistent with it.
- 2:46:53It's like the fact is we do not have gender-based divisions and
- 2:46:57save High School sports or professional sports.
- 2:47:01Or Olympics Sports. We have sex differences, and we
- 2:47:05divide by sex because the Sexes are not equal.
- 2:47:08I don't care about gender at that point.
- 2:47:10And then, that's the thing is, they'll keep bringing up, gender
- 2:47:13say, but gender doesn't have anything to do with it because
- 2:47:15it's the sex. It's sex segregation, it's not
- 2:47:19by gender. Like, well, you want to be a man
- 2:47:23and call yourself a woman. You're still at the end of the
- 2:47:26day, a male, which means you should be with the other males,
- 2:47:29you cannot be with the females Yeah. and then, that's when you
- 2:47:35get to the truly nutty, people who Try to tell you that because
- 2:47:39they changed pronouns on a piece of paper.
- 2:47:42Even if they still have a fucking beard and balls and dick
- 2:47:45there. Now a female it's like, no, no,
- 2:47:50no, no. By your.
- 2:47:53Gobbledygook, you can call yourself a woman.
- 2:47:55You're never going to be a female.
- 2:47:59Ever. Now, I will still say that
- 2:48:02they're not a woman because the definition of a woman in English
- 2:48:05is adult human female. Which has nothing to do, you'll
- 2:48:09notice. With gender.
- 2:48:12Right. If I'm gonna go by their
- 2:48:15parlance fine, you can call yourself a woman, you can't call
- 2:48:19yourself a female and they will still insist that by changing
- 2:48:23some words on a piece of paper, every fucking chromosome in
- 2:48:26their body has somehow warped around.
- 2:48:29So manufacturer a new human. Well, That's where that's the
- 2:48:34part. Where I draw the line is.
- 2:48:35Yeah, reality is never going to accommodate your delusions.
- 2:48:40Well, and well, it is cruel for me to go with along with your
- 2:48:44delusions and Build You Up in such a way that the shattering
- 2:48:49smack of reality. On your face will hurt that much
- 2:48:52more. The kind thing to do is tell
- 2:48:54you, you're fuking wrong right away.
- 2:48:58You know, I'm I'm not mean about it.
- 2:49:00I'm not going to go out of my way to find people who are
- 2:49:04delusional and shove reality in their face over and over and
- 2:49:08over again, they can pay a psychologist or a psychiatrist
- 2:49:11to do that for them. We used to just do that in
- 2:49:14asylums. But if I get confronted by one
- 2:49:18of these black balloons in public, yeah, I'm going to
- 2:49:21politely not be their sidekick in their delusions.
- 2:49:24Well, that that's well that's the whole thing.
- 2:49:27I've told like a lot of You know, I've told my club of
- 2:49:33liberals because some of them think I'm harsh on the whole
- 2:49:37eligibility thing and I'm like, okay no, no, the thing is, they
- 2:49:41confuse. they will confuse they will confuse a criticism of
- 2:49:47right here with a criticism of a personal, well himself, like
- 2:49:54Well, I, I've told them consistently like my biggest
- 2:49:57criticism. Is that is that they can't Is
- 2:50:00that none of them? At least I've noticed can can
- 2:50:03remain consistent on it and if they The two things if they
- 2:50:10weren't trying to shove everyone else's face in it.
- 2:50:14I wouldn't have I wouldn't have a problem with it if they were
- 2:50:18going to that and if they weren't constantly like moving
- 2:50:20in the goal posts, Well, you'll notice most gay people, most
- 2:50:25lesbian people. Most bi people are just normal
- 2:50:29people trying. Otherwise, normal people trying
- 2:50:31to get along with her day, they're not.
- 2:50:32Yeah, on my lawn, you know what I mean?
- 2:50:35Like the pride parade is very different.
- 2:50:38Those people are fucking weird but right.
- 2:50:41Yes. Majority of them are just trying
- 2:50:43to pay their taxes, pay their rent.
- 2:50:46Buy dinner and get the fuck home.
- 2:50:48Yeah I get it like you know if it's happening inside your house
- 2:50:52it's not my business. Whatever.
- 2:50:56You know, all have my thoughts about it, but I am going to have
- 2:50:58my thoughts about it inside my house.
- 2:51:01So the same way I respect their their privacy to that.
- 2:51:05Matter, they can respect my ability to have my own opinions,
- 2:51:08right? In my large that's the case
- 2:51:11nowadays it used to be. That was a big thing but
- 2:51:14nowadays, it's basically they're otherwise effectively normal.
- 2:51:19Yeah. Well my well my my home is whoa,
- 2:51:22yeah, my whole thing is like, okay look, I don't understand
- 2:51:26it, but like, if that's the way you choose to be like, good on
- 2:51:31you, but, but it's like, it's like when they're like, no, you
- 2:51:34have You have to address me by say that by Zayn.
- 2:51:40Thank you, sir. That's, that's the thing.
- 2:51:42You said something there. That is very specific.
- 2:51:45And only highlight it. You have to address me.
- 2:51:48That's not what they say. If it was, when you address me,
- 2:51:52you address me in this way, I would say.
- 2:51:54Okay, that comes from respect, respect is earned, but when
- 2:51:57you're in my respect, maybe that'll be the case.
- 2:52:00Instead it's you must address. You must address others.
- 2:52:06When talking about me in this way, you must, because they're
- 2:52:11not even getting my mind. These are third person pronouns.
- 2:52:13That means they're not even part of the fucking conversation.
- 2:52:18Yeah, that means I'm talking to someone else about them.
- 2:52:23Yeah, not them. I'm not talking directly to
- 2:52:27them. I'm talking to someone else
- 2:52:29about them. that is no longer that that is that is no longer
- 2:52:34something that they have any right to say anything about now,
- 2:52:38they can say, like, you can say something about the same thing
- 2:52:41in terms of salutation is like if I talk about You know, say
- 2:52:44I'm talking about Trump. I'm doing some sort of formal.
- 2:52:49Introduction or something. And I'm talking about him and I
- 2:52:53don't mention he's president Trump.
- 2:52:56You know, it would be within his rape to be annoyed.
- 2:52:59The fact that I didn't tell him president Trump, or if I call
- 2:53:02him. Mrs. Trump.
- 2:53:03He could be like, well, that's fucking weird.
- 2:53:08But you know, if I don't refer to him as, you know, Cesar or
- 2:53:12whatever. Like get the fuck out of here.
- 2:53:16It's English. Yeah, shit in second grade.
- 2:53:20like, it's just like, Her eyes. And I remember going through
- 2:53:26this shit with the tumblr post back in like 2012 as a joke like
- 2:53:30laughing about it. 2015 in green grapes podcast one of our
- 2:53:34streams laughing at just like you know the face face like you
- 2:53:38know for fairy fairy King. Yeah yeah.
- 2:53:41Like just there was a Tumblr that had just a fuk ton of
- 2:53:46pronouns And it was so fucking funny.
- 2:53:49But it we, you know, it's all came from like 2010.
- 2:53:56Like one of the containment board failures that is Tumblr.
- 2:54:01You know, that popped? And it's just this shit
- 2:54:04mainstreamed and it was so fucking funny at the time.
- 2:54:09And then, you know, like they're starting to try and be serious
- 2:54:11about. It's like, I'm not gonna take
- 2:54:12you seriously. I was just not possible.
- 2:54:16I will laugh at you and I will do it out loud and in front of
- 2:54:21everyone. Yeah, as it is because it is
- 2:54:25genuinely. Like look I I don't like if
- 2:54:27could be that I get along with some people like that, too.
- 2:54:33And they get that. I'm going to laugh at the
- 2:54:35silliness because it's silly. and if it's just their weird
- 2:54:41thing, Cool, whatever. If they try and force it upon
- 2:54:45me, I laugh. And they can't control that and
- 2:54:50that sucks for them. Yeah.
- 2:54:55Yeah, I mean well that that's a whole thing.
- 2:54:58It's like, it's like Get if I talk to someone else and I
- 2:55:03mentioned, you know, like that guy over there.
- 2:55:06They don't get the be upset with me.
- 2:55:08Talking to someone else like you get well they can be a one.
- 2:55:12It's just that they don't get like force that upon me.
- 2:55:17Yeah. You know my inspired by genuine
- 2:55:20response to that is always going to be go fuc yourself.
- 2:55:26Yeah. no, well, it's like, you know that it's like as far as
- 2:55:32like, as far as like as far as like, kids go to like my fourth
- 2:55:38time kids that's Like like, bulshit episode, we're up on on
- 2:55:43cussing. The, the pain and tellers
- 2:55:45bulshit. They had one on cussing.
- 2:55:46Yeah, he had the lady. That was going around.
- 2:55:49Trying to tell everyone not to cuss. and she had like a no
- 2:55:53bulshit sign and it just had you know the circle circle and slash
- 2:55:57for and then I had a cow pooping for no bulshit And she went to
- 2:56:04her like, manicurist friends shop and set up the sign said,
- 2:56:08like I can leave this here. She said, yeah, sure, and then
- 2:56:11she looked at her. She looked at this lady and they
- 2:56:13guessed. They were friends and she said,
- 2:56:16shit, I said shit or fuck. It doesn't matter which one And
- 2:56:21then, you know, Penn and tell like kind of slept in with
- 2:56:24commentary at that point. It's like, you know what?
- 2:56:25This one, simple word they base. You know, they had this little
- 2:56:28Exposition, they said, and all this was said, with this one,
- 2:56:31simple word, Yeah, like I respect, you were friends and
- 2:56:36all but this is not going to fly was basically what it boiled
- 2:56:39down to. And you can say just buy with an
- 2:56:43anti-cancer person, just saying shit.
- 2:56:45Well, that that's well, that's awesome.
- 2:56:49Louis CK does one while all the time page jokes about.
- 2:56:57He goes the N word. Offends me.
- 2:57:01And I don't like it. You're putting it in my head.
- 2:57:04Yeah, he's like He's not, yeah. It's like not and not, and by
- 2:57:11the way, but the n-word yeah, what Literally, which is
- 2:57:19literally the same. Like, I've had that feeling like
- 2:57:21for years I think with like same thing with that.
- 2:57:25Same thing with fagot it's like if you're going to make If you
- 2:57:29going to say try to make retard the r-word, like I'm not.
- 2:57:34I'm sorry. I come from the generation.
- 2:57:36We're calling something gay. Wasn't calling it.
- 2:57:38Happy or homosexual like when I say someone's a fagot I don't
- 2:57:44mean their their butt fuker. I mean there are genuinely
- 2:57:48irritating person. Right, right?
- 2:57:52Like if I say here's the thing is, is they confuse it?
- 2:57:56When I say someone is a retard I'm not saying they're mentally
- 2:58:00retarded, I mean, they are slowing down my life with their
- 2:58:04bulshit. I mean, they are literally
- 2:58:06retarding, the space-time around me with the amount of extra
- 2:58:10processing. I have to do to deal with the
- 2:58:13dumb, fucking retarded bulshit coming out of their mouth,
- 2:58:16right, right. How hard is this the comprehend?
- 2:58:19I would never say that. They are mentally retarded
- 2:58:22because that would insult people who are mentally retarded.
- 2:58:27Right. I I would, I would say that most
- 2:58:31that most like, people are mental, retarded, are not as
- 2:58:34much of it or not, they're not as hard as retarded people.
- 2:58:39So eventually retarded person cannot help With with what's
- 2:58:47with what God gave them in life? Right?
- 2:58:50They are behaving in a way that is slow.
- 2:58:52That is because that is how they are.
- 2:58:55They have no impact on that, right?
- 2:58:58They can do on their daily basis on their own and I respect them
- 2:59:02for it. What I don't respect to somebody
- 2:59:05who behaves worse than them. Who is fully fucking capable of
- 2:59:09functioning in the average percents, like or above average.
- 2:59:13If you are an intelligent person and you make the mentally
- 2:59:17retarded guy, look like a brilliant genius.
- 2:59:20Then you're retarded Well, I mean if you ask if you ask a
- 2:59:27mental retarded person, how many genders there are, how many
- 2:59:31different they got. A great answer.
- 2:59:34It's simple too. They figured that shit out
- 2:59:38early. Yeah. that's that means that you
- 2:59:47have to have a certain modicum of intelligence, Come up.
- 2:59:51Like I remember I mentioned that you can you can rationalize dumb
- 2:59:54shit if you're intelligent enough.
- 2:59:55Oh yeah. Well it's all it doesn't take a
- 2:59:58whole lot of extra intelligence. But there's somewhere between
- 3:00:01retarded and average were you break even to the point where
- 3:00:04you're capable of making up a whole bunch of fucking pronouns.
- 3:00:07Well, I and I can't, I can't remember whether I can't
- 3:00:10remember whether it was, uh, whether it was Jim met her or I
- 3:00:16think it was in the gym or on Doom who I heard this from
- 3:00:21first, and this was, this is probably going back a decade.
- 3:00:26Um now, but like all the sjws are, all the woe stores are all
- 3:00:32coming out of like the eye out of like the super like waspy ivy
- 3:00:37league, you know, schools which like that ought to tell you
- 3:00:41something that's from, That's So that's comes from.
- 3:00:45So, pre collapse of the USSR. They infiltrated our
- 3:00:51universities between the 60s and 70s.
- 3:00:53And so yeah, in the 80s was Modern Marxist.
- 3:00:57Feminism, And yeah, that's that in the 80s, that Marxism
- 3:01:03infiltration of universities is what produced the nonsense we're
- 3:01:08dealing with today. Several generations of that
- 3:01:11happening in University. So if you ever hear from earlier
- 3:01:13episodes so they can tell podcast her God help you if you
- 3:01:17ever listen to GDP. Where we're talking about the
- 3:01:21ship. Like, where I mentioned?
- 3:01:24Every major, that ends with studies needs to go away.
- 3:01:29Like, you know, gender studies say African studies European
- 3:01:35studies. History studies.
- 3:01:37All of these studies degrees are all Marxist captured.
- 3:01:43Oh yeah, and a lot of a lot of things that call themselves a
- 3:01:46science except for Material Science.
- 3:01:50Where you have like, you know, gender, his fucking gender
- 3:01:54science. Like it's disgusting to say that
- 3:01:56bucket phrase out loud. but there's, there's So many fucking
- 3:02:02Majors that do not need to exist.
- 3:02:04They are Financial black. Holes for the University mind
- 3:02:07you. Yeah.
- 3:02:08They produce. No money.
- 3:02:11They can consume all of the grant money that they bring in.
- 3:02:15And more and departments like chemical engineering, fucking
- 3:02:19pay for them. Now is a pissed me off the most,
- 3:02:23like, half the money coming in goes to the University pool as
- 3:02:28overhead. And so we're paying for these
- 3:02:30fucking studies departments, so exist and they don't produce
- 3:02:34anything, but more annoyance the rest of the world.
- 3:02:36Oh yeah. I I was required to take like
- 3:02:42one of the studies classes as part of my like pretty wax at uh
- 3:02:49yeah you at USF and so I I thought we I thought we would be
- 3:02:56funny to to take disabilities awareness.
- 3:03:01Stone and I should have done something that I did.
- 3:03:04I did like world history of Africa or whatever.
- 3:03:07Uh, yeah. I mean I I mean, I figured me
- 3:03:11being the disabled guy like, you know, it would be It would be a
- 3:03:15it would be a cake walk. Why you were?
- 3:03:18You got a rude awakening. Did you?
- 3:03:20Uh well it's it was pretty funny.
- 3:03:24It was pretty funny for the able-bodied professor to be like
- 3:03:28lecturing me on how I shouldn't use the term crippled.
- 3:03:32Because why? Because a triple might get
- 3:03:35offended. Yeah.
- 3:03:42And then that only and then and then me trying to explain and
- 3:03:46then like her saying you should use the term differently able to
- 3:03:49me like and me trying to ask her, like, how do you extra able
- 3:03:54here? Yeah, like how do we Define that
- 3:04:00and her like not another pair of legs for me, ma'am?
- 3:04:05Her and her not like, well, the thing it is, she couldn't give
- 3:04:08me a coherent answer. It was all, it was all word, got
- 3:04:12you, right? It was, it was gone.
- 3:04:15It was gone. And it's like, and so that
- 3:04:19eventually I went I I ended up passing the class just by like
- 3:04:24Just by like, basically words, basically, by like writing
- 3:04:28essay, which I word salad at the entire thing, Christmas treated
- 3:04:34in a paragraph. I want to say abated a I think I
- 3:04:42think I got like a B+ but basically like I basically but
- 3:04:46basically like how did they do the Galaxy?
- 3:04:48What is that? It would have.
- 3:04:50It would have looks like a bear. It would have looked like a
- 3:04:53Charles Manson like Skitzo. Like it would have looks like a
- 3:04:58Serial Killer's like Manifesto or so.
- 3:05:02Funny is I get. So I saw there's the fucking if
- 3:05:06you saw that the fucking badge wall say I made comment on
- 3:05:10earlier, I think it was there to go.
- 3:05:13It's like, you know, just ship people figured out by like, age
- 3:05:16by, like grade two, you know, just and they're selling,
- 3:05:20they're selling the fuckable clip on Badges and just look at
- 3:05:23that this context of this conversation thinking.
- 3:05:26You know, technically I have, you know, invisible
- 3:05:29disabilities. 8080 and whatnot. Like, just sitting there
- 3:05:35thinking like, yeah, what do a class like that?
- 3:05:37And I I'm, I guess the phrasing for that would be able-bodied
- 3:05:41presenting. Or whatever?
- 3:05:44Yeah, something like something. Some some bullshit like that,
- 3:05:48you know, or I guess like, for the whole Jewish thing I'm I'm
- 3:05:50white passing. Because remember these people
- 3:05:53all Exist by the one drop rule, which is only racist.
- 3:05:56If you're actually a southern racist, I guess if you're not of
- 3:06:00Southern, if you're not a classic southern Civil War
- 3:06:02racist then going by the one drop rule is just, I guess being
- 3:06:07a Studies major. Yeah.
- 3:06:10Well I'm I'm sure dangerous white guy, right?
- 3:06:14You see. Your two, your two white.
- 3:06:18For two white for the Wookiees. Two, Jewish for the Klansman.
- 3:06:28Yeah. Yeah.
- 3:06:31Yeah. Pretty much so.
- 3:06:34Like so I can go to like, you know, technically I guess I
- 3:06:37followed the brown category but I'm clearly not brown, you know,
- 3:06:41tan over pretty well in the Sun, but but it's like, it's like,
- 3:06:46it's like you're you're really kind when, you know, I don't
- 3:06:51know an anomaly because like You're not like, one of the Ben
- 3:06:55Shapiro types of like, you know, like of like you see, it's
- 3:06:59always the loud minority. That fucks things over for
- 3:07:02everyone else. Yeah, is a very Jewish Jew.
- 3:07:08Actually didn't say like he's a very chewy Jew.
- 3:07:10There you go. Yeah, he's the thing is it's
- 3:07:19Goofy and it's funny. It's not bad. and that's the
- 3:07:25thing that's that's missing in the context, like I grew up I
- 3:07:28want, you know, my lunch table. I had a guy, like I'm on my
- 3:07:32dad's side and Irish English from Mom's side, you know,
- 3:07:34Jewish mutt. Ashkenazi, and 40. and so I at
- 3:07:40my table at a fellow Jew, purebred Safari.
- 3:07:45I was family. Lineage is basically straight
- 3:07:48Irishman. Puerto Rican.
- 3:07:51Fucking a guy who's felony just basically Greek.
- 3:07:56Thank you. That's the thing is in America.
- 3:08:00You can go to a lunch so you can grow up like that.
- 3:08:02And the thing is, We had the best racist jokes.
- 3:08:06Oh yeah. Oh like that's the thing is if
- 3:08:09you're if you have fun with it. Then at the end of it,
- 3:08:13everyone's had their laugh and the only time someone serious
- 3:08:17about it is if they're an asshole in which case you get
- 3:08:21the point at that person and say you know this that and the other
- 3:08:25about your mother. You're the ass holes today or
- 3:08:27whatever. Yeah. it was that easy and you
- 3:08:32know, it's not like we had, you know, It's like I we had like a
- 3:08:39little Israel next to Little Italy or any of that shit.
- 3:08:41Like it's just going to school. Like he it's you have generally
- 3:08:49a nice neighborhood, etc, etc. I don't have to deal with going
- 3:08:54to talk to someone like Ben Shapiro and having a fucking
- 3:08:57lecture about why I should be more protective of being Jewish.
- 3:09:01Also I probably would have told me to shut the fuk up if he said
- 3:09:04something about that I think that I imagine I like to imagine
- 3:09:07that someone like Ben Shapiro would have a good sense of
- 3:09:09humor. Well I mean so I'm a So, I
- 3:09:14Dennis Prager is one of my other huge, like, intellectual
- 3:09:18influences besides were not aside from virtual and more.
- 3:09:23Like, as far as like, understanding Judaism, like
- 3:09:26eyebrow respect, Program. Okay, job.
- 3:09:30He there's something there's stuff to be desired about the
- 3:09:33way he explains it. Sure prayer for example is a big
- 3:09:38one. For Jews.
- 3:09:39Like obviously we're not going to change God's plan.
- 3:09:43I think Christianity pretty well.
- 3:09:44Gets that too. Yeah, the idea is that in
- 3:09:48Judaism prayer is for you to align.
- 3:09:52Its thinking like this. To align your mentality.
- 3:09:55With the fact that there is a there is God above Etc in that
- 3:10:00you live in part and service to that face.
- 3:10:03Like the idea of praying for something is to intentionally.
- 3:10:08Kind of manifest the attitude, if you will. like it's it's not
- 3:10:12like an affirmation kind of shit, but it's like the put in
- 3:10:15to put in mind that you Are not God, you know, God's will Etc.
- 3:10:21You know you want you you hope that something would foment to
- 3:10:26your desire? but that, you know, it's There.
- 3:10:31It's not like you're going to make that.
- 3:10:33So for God, but you have the free will to go about your day,
- 3:10:39right? Now, there's these fundamental
- 3:10:43contradictions to the way they abrahamic religions deal with
- 3:10:45this kind of stuff, but it's not so much of a contradiction in
- 3:10:49the Supernatural context. Sure.
- 3:10:52I mean I mean my biggest my biggest problem with with Ben is
- 3:10:55just the fact that like you what you literally does, the thing
- 3:10:59that the left does where it's like anything.
- 3:11:02Where it's like anything I disagree with the is
- 3:11:06anti-Semitism and it's like, well then like every New York
- 3:11:11Jew every floor. Did you I know is like an
- 3:11:15anti-semite then then because because like yeah, like most
- 3:11:24most American Jews. I know don't want some troops of
- 3:11:28Israel. So he's also a Orthodox in b, a
- 3:11:34dual citizen. Yeah. so, Like, I'm not either
- 3:11:40of those, I'm a conservative Jew and I'm an American.
- 3:11:45And I tell you, I don't give a flying fuk with the Israeli
- 3:11:49government wants. Um, that's not where I live.
- 3:11:52That's not my government. I don't write, I don't have to
- 3:11:56obey any of its laws I live here.
- 3:11:59So I'm I'm, you know, partial to I like the fact that is really
- 3:12:06exists. I think that right benefit to us
- 3:12:10in the region and as far as like, technology is transfers
- 3:12:14and, and commerce of cetera. I really would like us to focus
- 3:12:20more on getting a major benefit for us, out of some of our
- 3:12:23treaties with them. but by and large, we do get good return on
- 3:12:28investment from More than we say with China?
- 3:12:32Yeah. That's not much though.
- 3:12:37Well what about the whole? What about the whole APAC thing
- 3:12:41though? Because like supposedly, that's
- 3:12:44If you that once fucking irritating, and it's for the
- 3:12:48same reason, you know, dealing with the fucking Wookies, it's a
- 3:12:52consistency issue. Apec is an American.
- 3:12:56Uh, pack, it's an American political action committee,
- 3:13:00right? It's not an Israeli one.
- 3:13:04It's funded by Americans and it operates at the direction of
- 3:13:09Americans. Now you can say, That a portion
- 3:13:13of those Americans are dual citizens.
- 3:13:15You could say that they are so fundamentally aligned with a
- 3:13:19foreign government that maybe they should be designated as
- 3:13:22something else. But at the, at the base of it,
- 3:13:24they are an American organization.
- 3:13:26I don't, I'm not a member and I don't contribute.
- 3:13:29So, you know, take that for the pit that it is.
- 3:13:34But there are American organization.
- 3:13:36They are funded by Americans. And they operate with Americans.
- 3:13:43Now as I understand that their status is such that they don't
- 3:13:47have to disclose their funding sources.
- 3:13:48So there is a bit of a few ski station there that's possible.
- 3:13:52And that's something that I would think that should be
- 3:13:55investigated. I think that they should open up
- 3:13:58the books in that sense like they should open up the books to
- 3:14:00say who is funding them, just to make sure there's no foreign
- 3:14:03influence. Massage, if you believe can to
- 3:14:07sow and well, she thinks everything's fucking Mossad.
- 3:14:12Well, yeah. You know, like how many fucking
- 3:14:14like you'd have to have more massage agents?
- 3:14:18In America than in fucking Israel.
- 3:14:21So that's good. And here's the other side of it
- 3:14:24is when it comes to impact. They're the amount of money they
- 3:14:28give to American politicians. Is way less than other foreign
- 3:14:33influences. And I say other foreign
- 3:14:36influences as a comparison here, not to say they're foreign as
- 3:14:39again American pack. Funded by Americans, run by
- 3:14:43Americans, you can say that a bunch of them are dual citizens
- 3:14:46and that's true. I think that maybe that's that
- 3:14:50that is a possibility for a case to say they should have a farmer
- 3:14:53disclosure. Find.
- 3:14:55But when you're going to start talking about foreign investment
- 3:14:58in our politicians, There's a slew of other stuff that comes
- 3:15:03to mind first. Well, like, Most in the CIA in
- 3:15:09the Sierras, the two like big, you know, boogie man when it
- 3:15:15comes to things. Well so he's like let's go to
- 3:15:17Epstein. He was a he was an asset of
- 3:15:21both. Yeah, he was clearly playing
- 3:15:25both against each other to get better benefits out of both.
- 3:15:30which is, you know, a clever thing for a person to do in that
- 3:15:34situation and then again, This is also a, you know, air quotes
- 3:15:38clever person who liked the fuk kids.
- 3:15:43Which screwed up. And, and it's Brothers.
- 3:15:50Yeah, and club and a clever person who, you know, somehow
- 3:15:55like mysteriously hanging them. hanging himself like well you
- 3:15:59see this thing is is he is, he would be, I would say like The
- 3:16:04next step up and scale, and scope.
- 3:16:08From P Diddy. Because the same exact kind of
- 3:16:13thing. P, Diddy of course was only
- 3:16:14working for Americans. He was only work for our
- 3:16:17government. As a source a conference like
- 3:16:21basically it's the same same deal. confidential Source
- 3:16:25influence among other people who are Potentially of interest for
- 3:16:33National Security or otherwise. You know, he was the reason he
- 3:16:37got away with so much shit was because he was protected.
- 3:16:40As a source and so he became too much of a liability and then
- 3:16:43they took it out. So I would say Epstein, same
- 3:16:47kind of deal. He finally became too much of a
- 3:16:50liability. And he got taken out.
- 3:16:55So like it and then he got, then he got fucking killed in prison,
- 3:16:59whatever. Yeah.
- 3:17:02I mean, honestly, like and that's Like, I like Panama.
- 3:17:08Is I say I would say this. You will see you.
- 3:17:13See the same exact thing happening right now with people
- 3:17:17like Nicholas Fuentes. Oh yeah, who told people to go
- 3:17:21into the Capitol building on January 6th?
- 3:17:23He's clearly. So, when I say, he's a federal
- 3:17:25asset, I mean, he has a Handler and in that can go, multiple
- 3:17:30levels deep. Oh yeah, I think that the person
- 3:17:34who is right now, his Handler does not know that they are a
- 3:17:37federal asset to Well my I think he's just he just he's just an
- 3:17:44asset. Well my whole Theory with with
- 3:17:46Flint has from the beginning even before like the whole fed
- 3:17:49thing. My whole thing was he's a He's
- 3:17:54a, he's a left-wing media plant because like, if I were on the
- 3:17:59left and I want to, and I wanted to demonize Trump, as the
- 3:18:03literal if I wanted to demonize Maga as like, you know, like,
- 3:18:09literally Hitler. I would search for the one, like
- 3:18:13spergy, like autistic, you know person on YouTube, right?
- 3:18:19He he's, you know, butt buddies with Ali, Alexander.
- 3:18:22Yeah, the time traveling, the time traveling.
- 3:18:28Boy lover. yeah, well he in he and all he and James all set
- 3:18:35both you know oh man James also That guy. so he started off
- 3:18:43interesting and then he went fucking over the like his
- 3:18:49transition to, to espousing, you know, what, you can say in air
- 3:18:53quotes but he truly believes Like that was so Stark like that
- 3:18:58was yeah, a day and night. Flip between somebody who
- 3:19:03presented himself more, like Charlie Kirk believe it or not,
- 3:19:06in a very early, very early stuff.
- 3:19:09That also did, he was a lot closer to what Charlie Kirk was
- 3:19:13doing. know, I I actually knew all about one point and then
- 3:19:19like all this was one of those cases where he got he got
- 3:19:24assaulted by antifa and he got hit in the head like really hard
- 3:19:29and he's one of those cases where, like, you know, I know,
- 3:19:35Like, you could probably either confirm or just credit but like
- 3:19:38he's one of those cases where I literally think being hit in the
- 3:19:41head did change his personality. Like you do hear stories like
- 3:19:45that with like what happens? And and I and I think with him
- 3:19:49that was the case because when I first met him he was still very
- 3:19:54much like very like, you know mainstream Yeah.
- 3:20:01You know, normal kind of like you.
- 3:20:03And I are when we talked about Paul 619 and then went, once he
- 3:20:08got Assaulted. he started talking like race realism and
- 3:20:14all this other stuff that was like, Like I said, the
- 3:20:18difference. Yeah, it was literally overnight
- 3:20:21too. From what, from what I could
- 3:20:22tell. Yeah.
- 3:20:23And it was like, it was a snap of fingers, man.
- 3:20:28He is literally one of. He's one of the only guests who
- 3:20:32arrive. He's one of the only guests on
- 3:20:34the podcast who's episode, like, I've I've deleted simply because
- 3:20:39like you know as much as I hate to say it, like I don't want the
- 3:20:43you know, I don't really want their You know, the whole guilt
- 3:20:47by association thing. Now I don't think it would be so
- 3:20:50bad like back after Charlotte's will have it was kind of like
- 3:20:54yeah yeah I don't want to get like, you know, I mean, I'm sure
- 3:21:00I'm on the splc's list somewhere anyway, but you know, No reason
- 3:21:08to. You know, incriminate myself
- 3:21:11further with that. Well, Oh, they've they've lost
- 3:21:17their teeth from what. Evan was saying a few?
- 3:21:21Yeah, we could go just what this past episode.
- 3:21:28So before that, he mentioned that basically, they've been
- 3:21:31kicked off the list. Entirely like they're no longer
- 3:21:34they're not like it shouldn't have been the case.
- 3:21:36The first place that they had the power to dictate anything as
- 3:21:40far as policy but like they're no longer on the list of people
- 3:21:43they consult the federal government is when it comes to
- 3:21:46hate groups or any of that nonsense.
- 3:21:48It's wild to me that that was ever a thing.
- 3:21:53That would be in the business of declaring some speech hate and
- 3:21:56some speech not hate. And the federal government has
- 3:21:58no business doing that period. Yeah.
- 3:22:03Totally. Like, I'm sorry, it's just not
- 3:22:08something that the federal government should be allowed to
- 3:22:10do. And they shouldn't be allowed to
- 3:22:12contract other people to do it either.
- 3:22:14Like you'll notice that that's one of the ways to get around
- 3:22:16things is They'll spin off a private company. to do what they
- 3:22:21want to do by a law but they couldn't because of the
- 3:22:24unconstitutional, the CIA is notorious for doing that shit
- 3:22:28with a with the fuck's, the company they're analytics
- 3:22:34company. Oh boy.
- 3:22:39No, not black water. But tip of the tongue myself.
- 3:22:43I'm sorry. No no yeah no.
- 3:22:47You know I think you know what I'm talking about now though,
- 3:22:49they spun it off ages ago. And it's a they sell analytics
- 3:22:58packages. Basically, you know, oracle.
- 3:23:05No fuc. Know.
- 3:23:09No. I know, even that shit Fuentes
- 3:23:12was talking about the company recently.
- 3:23:13So No, I know. I know what you're, I know, what
- 3:23:18your I know what you're referring to.
- 3:23:26When does was awesome thing. Recently, something about like
- 3:23:28Tucker Carlson's, dad being part of the Ci or something was true.
- 3:23:34Yeah, so that's the thing. Here's the thing with people
- 3:23:38like Fuentes is They will have, they will start with something.
- 3:23:42That is true. And and or obvious.
- 3:23:46And they will talk about that in the same one, same way.
- 3:23:50And then they will introduce the insanity later. yeah, you know
- 3:23:54like like for instance Tucker Carlson's dad Worked with the
- 3:23:59CIA. Therefore Tucker Carlson is a
- 3:24:01caes at Where is the connection? There, it doesn't make sense.
- 3:24:05Well yeah, anyway you can say like okay and then he did things
- 3:24:11with the CIA and therefore he has a connection to the CAA like
- 3:24:16okay that case that's where the same thing like leaping right
- 3:24:21into Tucker Carlson's trolled by the CIA.
- 3:24:24Why or does punditry for the CIA.
- 3:24:27It's so silly one in particular because Tucker Carlson takes
- 3:24:32fucking top dollar from Qatar to give talks and to do interviews.
- 3:24:38Like he is paid by Foreign asset or so, he has paid as a foreign
- 3:24:42asset. That's a direct connection.
- 3:24:46Which is publicly disclosed and far disclosure.
- 3:24:49Like that is a known known known thing.
- 3:24:52Now you can make an argument that he is behaving more like
- 3:24:55Epstein sense that he is a asset for multiple different
- 3:24:59countries. But you still have to actually
- 3:25:02show where it was the heels and asset for the US. yeah, well,
- 3:25:07and that that is kind of one of the weird things out like
- 3:25:11Tucker, as of light is, like, I'm not someone who generally
- 3:25:16who Who generally jumps into conspiracies, but it is odd.
- 3:25:21He does have like so many like Four and Investor's.
- 3:25:25And Well, I mean that's the thing.
- 3:25:30If you have a, if you have a Well-established, well-known
- 3:25:35journalist, who was entered into?
- 3:25:39The private sector. Of course, the foreign
- 3:25:44government is going to try to get influenced through them.
- 3:25:48They try and do that through people who are still working at
- 3:25:50places like CNN with, so yeah. so, I mean, fuck it.
- 3:25:58Like they go after people. They, so they try to get people
- 3:26:03to recruit. By several different mechanisms.
- 3:26:09one of which is basically public embarrassment and that's in this
- 3:26:13is so I mentioned to you before there's some of those scam Bots
- 3:26:19or state, actors. Those are not always.
- 3:26:25Just trying to get cash out of you, sometimes it's to get
- 3:26:27something on you, they can use to compromise you.
- 3:26:31Oh, yeah, absolutely. And that's and it's all it's
- 3:26:35generically gonna be a market of opportunity.
- 3:26:39So if it's if you get caught up in their Dragnet you know you
- 3:26:44get scammed and they get in, they know who you are and they
- 3:26:47have that as information on you and then they find out You know,
- 3:26:51hey, this person's important. You know, vast majority not
- 3:26:55being important, just people who got scams.
- 3:26:58Oh hey, this person's important. What the fuck is say?
- 3:27:01I don't know. This person who works at
- 3:27:03intelligence agency doing responding to an onlyfans scam
- 3:27:08Bots. Now, we have a compromised
- 3:27:10picture. They said dick pic to the only
- 3:27:12fans model that didn't exist. Now, we have the ability to
- 3:27:16publicly embarrass them. We have a lever on like this is
- 3:27:21not farfetched shit. It's clearly happens.
- 3:27:24Oh yeah, faces. so, Like that. That's that's the kind of like
- 3:27:31that kind of compromises is straightforward.
- 3:27:34And that obviously also happens at places like news orgs.
- 3:27:40So, What's interesting with someone like Tucker Carlson is
- 3:27:43that he publicly disclosed his financial situation with foreign
- 3:27:48government. which, To be above board.
- 3:27:51And now I'm not saying he shouldn't have done that because
- 3:27:54he absolutely should have done it.
- 3:27:55He followed the law and he actually did what he was
- 3:27:57supposed to do. What's interesting is that
- 3:27:59people will Completely ignore that.
- 3:28:05Yeah. Continue to believe that you
- 3:28:07know Tucker Carlson is our guy or he is or he is not our guy or
- 3:28:11whatever. And the same funny thing is.
- 3:28:15People like Candace Owens also paid.
- 3:28:18By car. You'll notice if it ever comes
- 3:28:22up, she shuts that shit down right away.
- 3:28:26Oh yeah. She immediately changes topic
- 3:28:29for a reason because that's her paycheck.
- 3:28:36Now, that's the reason why she's deranged.
- 3:28:39As I don't play, that's the reasons to see his strange.
- 3:28:41He's just drained. Yeah.
- 3:28:44Well, well like I, I believe that posted this in the fake and
- 3:28:50title Discord the other day, but red told him America, basically,
- 3:28:55Did. They they did.
- 3:28:59Like I wouldn't say they haven't done a documentary on her yet,
- 3:29:02but they basically did Did the thing where they they basically
- 3:29:06broke down all her. you know, all of her own investigations on
- 3:29:13Oh, shall I Kirk? And it's basically what she's
- 3:29:16doing is she's she's she's she's basically just trying to grip
- 3:29:21off his death to make her like to make her.
- 3:29:26She's trying to make his assassination about her now.
- 3:29:29Yep. Yep, she did that basically day
- 3:29:33two. Day one, she was kind of shocked
- 3:29:37as everyone else and day, two. Right into the grift.
- 3:29:41Yeah, I was not. Oh, not happy to see that but I
- 3:29:47get it. It's her business model.
- 3:29:51Well, you know, in in to be fair and I I said this to Max in
- 3:29:58private like regarding You know. Can can designs like, I'm sure
- 3:30:05there was a little bit of guilt. on her part because, you know,
- 3:30:10she and Charlie might not have You know, ended on great terms
- 3:30:15but the way she's handling it is is not the best way to do it at
- 3:30:20all. So I don't think she's gonna
- 3:30:23feel, I don't think she's feeling guilt in any of us.
- 3:30:25I think, well, well, not now but maybe but like, maybe an
- 3:30:29initially. She was subconsciously.
- 3:30:31Like, oh man, you know, we didn't end On good terms but
- 3:30:37then she but then she spun it. You know.
- 3:30:41Because she's a narcissist. so, Yeah.
- 3:30:48It's, it's amazing. She's got the following.
- 3:30:50She does, you know more power to her.
- 3:30:54Mentally ill, people gotta get through life too.
- 3:30:56Well there's that but then like that's also that's awesome.
- 3:31:01One of the things too. Like you know the YouTube the
- 3:31:05YouTube algorithm as much as I need to say it.
- 3:31:07Like the YouTube algorithm just social media in general.
- 3:31:12They feed off that like the real the reason why the fake untied
- 3:31:17podcast and why were and why this podcast the reason why
- 3:31:22we're still like small channels is because we don't really do.
- 3:31:27The sensation, the sensationalist stuff, which was
- 3:31:30what feeds? The algorithm.
- 3:31:33Like, I'm sure, I'm sure that you were Evan or hell.
- 3:31:37I, or anyone could. And we could probably blow up
- 3:31:40like overnight if we did the, if we did all the clickbait, you
- 3:31:44know, fucking gross. Bulshit, you know, that most the
- 3:31:48most these people do. it's here's the thing that's a, you
- 3:31:53know, because so, I don't want to sound like sour grapes.
- 3:32:01Because I because again now I run things a little differently
- 3:32:05between the two different podcasts.
- 3:32:08Like fake entitle podcasts. Is a hobby.
- 3:32:12It's not. It's not a job, sure. so, in the
- 3:32:17same way that I'm here, you know, this is this is Hobby time
- 3:32:21for me right now, it's not And I'm not, I'm not working. like
- 3:32:25if I made it into a job, I would certainly approach things a
- 3:32:30little differently. But that's that's the advantage
- 3:32:36of not doing it as a job as is, I get to just fuck around.
- 3:32:40You know. So you blunt about it, sure.
- 3:32:46But you know, we are podcasts as largely in structured.
- 3:32:50I mean, we have some talking points to go over and Evan
- 3:32:53largely towards Stephen. And I you know, so they can but
- 3:33:04like you know it's it's it's it's largely unstructured beyond
- 3:33:09the stories that Evan guides us to. and you know, we'll bring in
- 3:33:17our extra bit of our extra two cents to bring the round of the
- 3:33:20context and That's all well and good.
- 3:33:23But it's not like, you know, this hour is about this, this
- 3:33:26hour is about this or this 10 minutes segment is about this.
- 3:33:29Well, sure, really structure a show and, and, you know, part of
- 3:33:35it also is the regular about your shows.
- 3:33:37Like, we can certainly structure it to be regular routine,
- 3:33:41repeatable and reliable. And and get out, you know?
- 3:33:48say out of three or four two-hour podcasts a week or one
- 3:33:53hour podcast leak, we can through that and and and make it
- 3:33:57easier for listeners to find us and to rely upon having us to
- 3:34:01listen to We can do that but thats work.
- 3:34:06And again, basically a hobby for us.
- 3:34:09Now, I know that would like to be more And there's something to
- 3:34:14be said about that and go back to your point about us being a
- 3:34:17small Channel. Like if, if it wasn't for the
- 3:34:21algorithm rewarding, certain types of behavior, certainly
- 3:34:24sure we would be on par with. I think some some decent sized
- 3:34:28podcasts. But you know, that's it's just
- 3:34:32the way it is that we don't do. A lot of its Sensational stuff.
- 3:34:36And again, I think that the You know, the regular repeatable,
- 3:34:41reliable, Etc. Like, that's that's all part of
- 3:34:44it as well. Like, we think you mentioned
- 3:34:46that the head You know, we just kind of show up. when kind of
- 3:34:52whenever we feel like it, Saturday or Sunday, usually,
- 3:34:55Like that's not a time where people are going to know to show
- 3:34:58up and listen to us. Maybe generally people know
- 3:35:01that, you know, vaguely, we might be around.
- 3:35:05But it's not. So like there's that's that's
- 3:35:11how you get a regular audience is to be a regular show. and
- 3:35:16we're not a regular show, and that's We're regular ish but
- 3:35:20we're not like a regular show. so, you know, the the algorithms
- 3:35:29tend to reward Certain lengths of content.
- 3:35:35Regularity of content. and, Generally more sanitized
- 3:35:42content. So, yeah.
- 3:35:44Analysis on our shows would hear would detect a lot of hostility,
- 3:35:48as well as a lot of hilarity. So that's not good for
- 3:35:52audiences. Well, yeah, and that.
- 3:35:54Well, yeah. And for me, and for me, in
- 3:35:56particular that a lot that last part you mentioned with, you
- 3:36:00know, the show being like You know, sanitary, that that's kind
- 3:36:05of what keeps dinging me. you know, on on YouTube because
- 3:36:10yeah, like well I don't know within the first 30 minutes you
- 3:36:15said Fuck shit, pissed Etc. Well yeah.
- 3:36:21By the way, is the YouTube sentiment analysis is within the
- 3:36:25first 30 minutes. If you say bad words, then you
- 3:36:27get a certain, you get a tag on your your video.
- 3:36:30Well, well, awesome. Also though, like when I have
- 3:36:35like, you know, When I, when I have authors, you know, on the
- 3:36:40podcast and you know, some of them are veterans, it does work,
- 3:36:44you know, retired cops. It doesn't help when they're you
- 3:36:47know, talking like You know, doing homicide and
- 3:36:51investigations and unfortunately because well you know MSNBC or
- 3:36:57ABC or BBC or NBC. Yeah well I'm not gonna get the
- 3:37:02benefit of the doubt me algorithm and get boosted.
- 3:37:04Artificially. Yeah well and I'm awesome.
- 3:37:06I'm awesome. Not going to tell a cop though
- 3:37:09that hey instead of use the term you know murdered use the term
- 3:37:14unlocked or Stops. It's not just that youth was
- 3:37:21exist, it's that they, they show up.
- 3:37:25And then enough, then a critical mass of people use them.
- 3:37:29So, you know, gets hoisted into the Zeitgeist.
- 3:37:33Yeah, those and then those fucking youth museums become the
- 3:37:37new dirty word that they love him.
- 3:37:40Like I guarantee you that unlived is treated the same as
- 3:37:45killed. And the algorithm right now.
- 3:37:47Yeah, that yeah, that's him platform.
- 3:37:49Yeah. Yeah and yeah.
- 3:37:52And that's why I don't, that's why I don't ever like ever use
- 3:37:56it like seriously, you know, except for like just now.
- 3:37:59And I was like, you know, Pointing out.
- 3:38:02But like, yeah, one of my like Andrew Nelson.
- 3:38:05One of the, I'm sure you've seen him on my timeline but he's a
- 3:38:10He's an ex and ypd detective. And he, yes, me and DMS.
- 3:38:15He's like, he's like, can you explain the whole on a live?
- 3:38:19Thing. He's like, I don't know.
- 3:38:20And so, and so, I, I explained to him, he's like, he's like,
- 3:38:26he's like, are he's like, are you, are you sir?
- 3:38:29He's like, so you're telling me that YouTube has like an issue
- 3:38:33with people using like the term murdered and whatnot.
- 3:38:37And I'm like yeah. and, And so you'll get you'll get
- 3:38:42demonetized if used term like homicide or something like that.
- 3:38:46And I'm like why I've never I've never been monetized on YouTube
- 3:38:51like From what I can tell. Yes, that's little like three.
- 3:38:58The reason is because of monsters and whatnot.
- 3:39:03So, but, it's well, I mean, you know, the day like Monetization
- 3:39:15is only going to get you so far if the audience doesn't allowed
- 3:39:18to see you. Yeah.
- 3:39:21One, that that's awesome. That's awesome.
- 3:39:25Why? I hope like it.
- 3:39:27It's probably not, it's probably never gonna happen, but that's
- 3:39:30why I would love to see YouTube. Like Split from Google or I
- 3:39:36guess die or I guess divested would be the case, because
- 3:39:40that's the problem. YouTube's never been profitable
- 3:39:43on its own. Right. in the abstract like it
- 3:39:50just as a proper business proposition it does not have
- 3:39:55like, even with YouTube Red, It does not have the business model
- 3:40:02to make it profitable. Yeah, that's and so it's
- 3:40:06largely. It's largely been on a driver of
- 3:40:11the ad business. Separately, and it's not on
- 3:40:16YouTube platform, it's in search.
- 3:40:21So the ads, the ads in search. On Google and Google partners.
- 3:40:28That's where YouTube boosts business for Google, right.
- 3:40:34And it's never been on YouTube. The platform, the ads you get on
- 3:40:37YouTube, They Don't Really offset the expense nearly as
- 3:40:40what they have, you believe. The YouTube Red.
- 3:40:44Doesn't benefit them enough to justify the price being as low
- 3:40:50as it is. Which is a stupid thing to say
- 3:40:54as a customer because I'd rather the price be zero.
- 3:40:57Because I fucking hate that. Like yeah, it's here's the
- 3:41:04thing. If YouTube Red was a dollar a
- 3:41:07month or two dollars a month, I could be convinced to pay for
- 3:41:12that. In the same sense that had.
- 3:41:16Amazon Prime. Not been changed into multiple
- 3:41:20tears. Where they decided, you know,
- 3:41:23what? We're gonna take something that
- 3:41:25was supposed to be a major benefit of prime watching
- 3:41:29videos, ad free on the website. and we're going to just, Remove
- 3:41:35that from the contract. You like just fuck, you customer
- 3:41:39And then upcharge you three bucks a month like that shit.
- 3:41:44Gives me blind fucking rage. Oh yeah.
- 3:41:48Me too. And I hated and so that's that's
- 3:41:53what I see. Like the funny thing is YouTube
- 3:41:55Red was kind of the same thing but adds already existed and
- 3:42:00they're like, here's an ad-free model.
- 3:42:02But it's 10 bucks a month and as I cannot justify 10 bucks a
- 3:42:06month, like that is so far above my threshold.
- 3:42:09I will just use an ad, blocker. I'll just use like, here's the
- 3:42:14thing is, is in and then they're, they're worth ad
- 3:42:16blockers, ad block plus. like, Is not great at blocking ads.
- 3:42:25Like it's it's good. But like the the, you know, the
- 3:42:28ad thing still kind of flickers up and you slap to click Skip
- 3:42:31and I don't mind that so much, but it was like, it was so
- 3:42:35inconsistent and everyone just still play ads like because we
- 3:42:39have the little ratcheting war between updates.
- 3:42:41So, I just switched over to Brave for for watching YouTube.
- 3:42:46Like, I just been lazy about it. I haven't actually switched over
- 3:42:48everything to Brave Like, you know, it's it's I I run parallel
- 3:42:54browsers now. I don't just have Chrome open
- 3:42:56anymore. I use Brave to do other things
- 3:42:58in the past and I have a couple other browsers.
- 3:43:00I deal with not Opera GX mind you.
- 3:43:05Avoid. Yeah, operas dog, shit. well,
- 3:43:12it's it's it's a data mine. Oh yeah, that I can't fault them
- 3:43:25for doing it but like, their business model is selling your
- 3:43:28data. Which means that they are anti
- 3:43:32customer, just to start with like the you're the product.
- 3:43:35So I anti user, not antifa. Customer, the customer is not
- 3:43:39the user. And it's flashy as they make up
- 3:43:45or GX and Opera. Not justified.
- 3:43:50But Brave is good for browsers. Good.
- 3:43:53For browser based off of Firefox, unfortunately most
- 3:43:56Zilla. Took all of the money there,
- 3:43:59getting in and decided. You know what?
- 3:44:01Fuck actually making A good products.
- 3:44:04We should focus on Dei and woke shit.
- 3:44:09So, I'm so glad that that the US government clawed back like a
- 3:44:15million dollar Grant, they gave to Mozilla Yeah, two thirds two
- 3:44:20thirds of their of their of their funding.
- 3:44:23Got zapped freed by the whole USA thing. which should tell you
- 3:44:29something like, I'm all for the Federal Government funding.
- 3:44:36Funding organizations. Like Mozilla or say Brave would
- 3:44:42be another one would be good. I'm all for federal funding for
- 3:44:46these as public services. But it should not come in the
- 3:44:50form of like a black coders program.
- 3:44:55If as if skin color makes you. Yeah.
- 3:44:58Well that programming. Well that well, that's well,
- 3:45:02that's my whole thing too. And yeah, representation.
- 3:45:05But you see, you have to just be good at programming and that
- 3:45:09case, why do you need a fucking grant for it?
- 3:45:14Well that well that was my whole thing too, as like a media guy.
- 3:45:17That was my husband with NPR too.
- 3:45:19Like like if NPR were actually like a neutral and whatnot, like
- 3:45:24no one would have No one would have an issue with like with the
- 3:45:30government funding and I like Lake Wobegon as much as the next
- 3:45:36guy. But yeah, I if the NPR, if the
- 3:45:41funding for NPR went to Lake Wobegon, Then NPR wouldn't have.
- 3:45:48Been the partisan ship mess. That it was the same thing with
- 3:45:52with PBS. So space time is one of my go-to
- 3:45:56channels die and joy. They do great Sikkim.
- 3:46:01On PBS, space-time and PBS eons. Both good channels.
- 3:46:08When I then go watch those two channels specifically space-time
- 3:46:13and I see mad odd talking about. PBS running into funding issues.
- 3:46:21my first thought here is, why was why is this going to impact
- 3:46:26PBS space-time, which is also largely supported by patreon?
- 3:46:32Like right. Why?
- 3:46:35So if the funding that was going to partisan bulshit like say you
- 3:46:41know, The next thing is like PBS like the bullshit.
- 3:46:47So again, Imagine if you will you have and I understand cash
- 3:46:51is fungible. Like, you know.
- 3:46:54So if you make a hole in the budget in one place and cash is
- 3:46:57going to slosh from another place to fill it, I get that
- 3:47:00that's going to be why PBS SpaceTime Loses.
- 3:47:03Some of its funding is that some dumb shit on the other side of
- 3:47:07PBS was being funded by something like USA.
- 3:47:11And now it's gone and for some fucked up reason.
- 3:47:16The part of PBS that matters is going to start losing money.
- 3:47:21I get it. You know, I went through
- 3:47:22Academia, I dealt with the studies Majors, right?
- 3:47:25What I know what that means. But again.
- 3:47:30Like there are largely funded out of patreon.
- 3:47:32I get that they have like a good chunk of their budget that goes
- 3:47:35through, PBS proper, but like at this point, they may as well,
- 3:47:40lose the PBS affiliation, you know, Why yeah why deal with
- 3:47:46this shit like again? Like we should be funding we
- 3:47:48should be funding in my opinion we should be funding stuff like
- 3:47:51PBS space-time with public dollars because those genuinely
- 3:47:55yeah. Like talk about you know they do
- 3:47:59good cycling. We don't need the fucking gender
- 3:48:04studies bulshit on the other side of PBS.
- 3:48:05So why? Do we are the ability to just
- 3:48:09like write out a contract or we have a writer that says only
- 3:48:12funds SpaceTime. Yeah.
- 3:48:15Or if if you're going to have someone like like Terry Gross
- 3:48:19for example who's like a big left, Who's like, who's like a
- 3:48:23big, lots of Personality on there like like, you know, I, I
- 3:48:28know, I just mentioned Tucker Carlson, like, if NPR wanted to
- 3:48:32hire Tucker Carlson to be like, the, what, to be like, you know,
- 3:48:35the conservative voice on NPR sure.
- 3:48:38You know, or something just as an example in all so fun, like,
- 3:48:41you know, Terry Gross. Okay.
- 3:48:44That we that I would be fine with but it's like, it's like
- 3:48:49they have five like left wing mouthpieces and like no one.
- 3:48:54On gonna get right away. And it's it's a funny one. so,
- 3:49:03if you remember there was a fairness and there's a ferris
- 3:49:08and broadcasting Law. Yeah, you still exist.
- 3:49:12Yes, love that. Because for some reason, for
- 3:49:16whatever reason, it is, Democrats do great.
- 3:49:21And broadcast televised media. They suck and talk radio.
- 3:49:27For whatever reason. Conservatives Love, talk radio.
- 3:49:31And Democrats don't care for it and so they wanted to force the
- 3:49:36same fairness doctrine that the FCC pulled on televised
- 3:49:41broadcasts into radio broadcasts.
- 3:49:47Because some people still had amtv or slowly used analog TVs.
- 3:49:53You know, some people slide 10, a TV like okay we need to we
- 3:49:56need to have fairness because fairness Doctrine exists and
- 3:49:59televised media. We need it in radio conservative
- 3:50:02talk radio shows. Then you have balance.
- 3:50:06It's like I'm sorry, the fairness Doctrine.
- 3:50:09Was was ruled to not be allowable before.
- 3:50:13Why do you think it's gonna work in radio this time?
- 3:50:16Yeah, it was blocked before. It's not going to come back.
- 3:50:19Like he cry about it. Yeah.
- 3:50:22And also it's like in it and also it's like The Rush Limbaugh
- 3:50:26Show was because they always used to being up the fairness
- 3:50:29Doctrine and relation to rush and billboards.
- 3:50:31Yeah. And it's like, yeah, but it's
- 3:50:33like, yeah. But it's like Rush is not funded
- 3:50:37by like NPR. I like versus fun to make by,
- 3:50:41you know, well, back when I was growing up, it was Clear
- 3:50:44Channel. Now it's, you know, iheartmedia
- 3:50:46or, you know, that's why I said, like, that's gonna be the.
- 3:50:50That is going to be the talking point that is brought up with
- 3:50:53you say, if you say, you want fairness for your dollar,
- 3:50:57they're gonna cry about the fact that fairness isn't allowed.
- 3:51:02In this area where it's private dollars?
- 3:51:03Well yeah because obviously yeah makes sense to you.
- 3:51:08I'm just saying that the dumb argument, you're going to hear
- 3:51:11immediately. Is that fairness Doctrine isn't
- 3:51:15allowed and talk radio? Yeah, the wind about that and
- 3:51:20said yeah it ya know. I I've heard that argument in my
- 3:51:24whole thing is well Rush Limbaugh and probably isn't
- 3:51:27publicly funded and NPR and and they are NPR is so Um, so maybe
- 3:51:37to give you a proper caliber. Calibration on.
- 3:51:42On what kind of brilliant intellect will be bringing this
- 3:51:46argument to you. I don't know if you saw just
- 3:51:48recently Don. Lemon trying to convince
- 3:51:51someone. That a misdemeanor is not a
- 3:51:54crime. Yeah.
- 3:51:57Right. So that's the kind of Brilliance
- 3:52:00that will be coming at you. Saying, if you want fairness
- 3:52:03here, then you must there. Well, no, I I've had brilliant.
- 3:52:08I've had these quote-unquote brilliant people like come at me
- 3:52:11and be like, These are the same type of people being like, well,
- 3:52:15Charlie didn't deserve to be assassinated, but but he did say
- 3:52:22controversial thing. So he did kind bring on himself
- 3:52:26and it's like And it's like, that's the thing I didn't hear
- 3:52:31from my friend who, when he said the next day, I'm sorry that
- 3:52:34that this happens. Yeah.
- 3:52:36Like he did. There was no yada.
- 3:52:39Yada yada yada. But there was just, yeah.
- 3:52:42There. I believe in the, you know, I
- 3:52:45wholeheartedly believe in free speech.
- 3:52:46I can't believe they did this to all.
- 3:52:48I'm so sorry about this. Yeah, there was no, there was no
- 3:52:52asterisk. Right.
- 3:52:57Yeah. So between between that and and
- 3:53:00a misdemeanor, isn't a crime, just I'm sorry, just like I
- 3:53:07looked at when they come into the country illegally they
- 3:53:10committed, no crime. Yeah, the the funny thing about
- 3:53:17that too. the funny thing about that too is it's like Is it's
- 3:53:23like, well, well I still is, you know, is like a rusting women
- 3:53:27and children and whatnot. And it's like, yeah.
- 3:53:30It's like yeah, a lot of those women in shows and like even
- 3:53:35after they get here, like, there's still being handed by
- 3:53:38like cartel members and whatnot. So, like Well, when the coyotes
- 3:53:42bring him over, its 5000 dollars that they don't have.
- 3:53:46Right. Yeah.
- 3:53:47And the interest rate on that mind you is such that they will
- 3:53:52never be done paying it off while they work for those so
- 3:53:55life. That's the whole goal.
- 3:53:57Yeah, man and get free labor. that's yeah, that's modern
- 3:54:02slavery in America is, is people brought in illegally And it's
- 3:54:08fucking. So here's the thing is once
- 3:54:13again Democrats are having their slave labor ripped off of them.
- 3:54:18And and their fucking screaming about it again.
- 3:54:20And it's, it's It's it's vile shit.
- 3:54:26Like I really genuinely hope that they cry themselves to
- 3:54:31sleep knowing that they're gonna have to go and do shit.
- 3:54:34They don't want to do. Because they lost their slave
- 3:54:38labor. Like they're gonna have to
- 3:54:40actually pay appropriate amounts for the stuff that they enjoyed
- 3:54:45the the based off of slave labor.
- 3:54:48The other thing that's funny about that though too.
- 3:54:50I don't have you seen but some of them some of them because
- 3:54:55they hit they hate Elon musk's so much.
- 3:54:57Now too are all like booing Optimist.
- 3:55:00And it's like, well. That's actually not free.
- 3:55:07Well yeah, labor Look nobody. Nobody has a moral quandary with
- 3:55:17a robot slave. Nobody I'm okay.
- 3:55:23Stupid people might but nobody's saying nobody's like the same
- 3:55:28people who right now might get horribly offended with the word
- 3:55:31clanker. Wait, what?
- 3:55:37I don't know. There's there's a great one with
- 3:55:41Sonic the Hedgehog and Metal Sonic.
- 3:55:44I don't know if you see that one Marie, calls them with clanker
- 3:55:47and then everyone just gets upset with them.
- 3:55:50Yeah. I just they just go through a
- 3:56:01series of other things. Like, no Sonic.
- 3:56:03Oh my God. Yeah.
- 3:56:07Well that well that that's kind of that's kind of like one of
- 3:56:11the whole things with Star Trek though.
- 3:56:13Right is like supposedly in the Star Trek world like we stalled
- 3:56:18racism. But then once we got, you know,
- 3:56:21into like outer space and then was like species.
- 3:56:25She's it's a mirror. Or why?
- 3:56:27That's? That's more like the real
- 3:56:29racism, isn't it? Cuz this is different race of
- 3:56:32creature, right? Yeah, it's it's speciesism and
- 3:56:37and that, that is already a thing that the people like PETA.
- 3:56:42Um, point out. And the thing is, they're
- 3:56:46absolutely right? I will absolutely be as
- 3:56:47speciesist as I can, I would. And here's, I agree explicitly
- 3:56:53with with Penn and Teller on this one.
- 3:56:55I would murder every single chimpanzee with my bare hands.
- 3:56:59I would go up each one of them if it meant that I could save
- 3:57:04one street junkie with AIDS. Seeing as that's not actually a
- 3:57:09feasible method to do that. I'm not going to, but if it came
- 3:57:13down to it and I was the one guy I had the endurance and the grip
- 3:57:17strength. And I had a pile of chimps in
- 3:57:21front of me and I had to go through them to save the one
- 3:57:25street jumpy with AIDS. I would fucking do my duty.
- 3:57:31I'm not enjoy it. Well, Dustin and I love Dunston
- 3:57:37Checks and God damn it. Yeah even though I know he's in
- 3:57:40a ranging, gotta jump. Well you know well you know you
- 3:57:45you and Joe Rogan could always team up and murder, you know,
- 3:57:49and murdered shims. So but like again, like I am not
- 3:57:54like I'm not gonna cry about a mosquito Having its last thought
- 3:58:00be its anus as it hits my windshield.
- 3:58:02I'm not gonna care. I humans matter.
- 3:58:07More humans are more important. I just we have that as a
- 3:58:12baseline. Yeah, yeah, it's a more
- 3:58:15important. The cow is food.
- 3:58:17Humans are more important. Yeah, yeah.
- 3:58:20And like I said, in, like I said at the beginning of the show
- 3:58:22after you mentioned, you know, the whole Kai thing like yeah
- 3:58:27that that is the that is the one area where I'm like Where am I?
- 3:58:32Yeah, it's like I do feel bad for first songs.
- 3:58:35Also more important than roaches.
- 3:58:39It's easy. Yeah.
- 3:58:43Yeah. Is there there's a we we
- 3:58:52ascribe. we scribe certain, um, you know, modalities of Like,
- 3:59:01innocence is a priority on this one, dogs are cognizant.
- 3:59:06So the point where they're capable of doing things, they
- 3:59:08are also relatively innocent For the most part by and large,
- 3:59:12especially as a pet, dogs are relatively innocent.
- 3:59:15So, for instance, Shocking Hashem of a dog.
- 3:59:21That's a fucking. So a dog.
- 3:59:24That's like bred to like lead people up a mountain.
- 3:59:29And you have it yeah fucking square foot patch all fucking
- 3:59:33day. Active hours daylight hours.
- 3:59:36You have it. Sit there doing nothing.
- 3:59:38Bored out of its mind and you shot the shit out of it.
- 3:59:41Every time it's pots such as the ground outside.
- 3:59:43It's hot. Like you should be castigated in
- 3:59:48public. You should be exploring it as
- 3:59:51scum of the earth because you're torturing a fucking dog.
- 3:59:54Yeah. And I, and I, and I and I could
- 3:59:57tell I, I at the end of the day, if it came down to Kaya dying or
- 4:00:03Hassan, Hearing a curing his age. you know, getting getting
- 4:00:09the What's his name treatment? You know, spending 18,000
- 4:00:13dollars during his aides? You know, injected straight into
- 4:00:17his veins, right? If it costs, if Kaya had to die.
- 4:00:20So that Hassan could live it's a tough call but, you know, but if
- 4:00:29I was, if I was being serious now, like Hassan He's a human.
- 4:00:35I think he's a x crippled piece of shit. but, You know, the
- 4:00:41human life matters, world the dogs life in general and that I
- 4:00:44think that if he was a good dog owner he was a good dog owner.
- 4:00:49You know, and as most dog owners who are good, would I think that
- 4:00:53he would probably just he would sacrifice of himself?
- 4:00:57To to keep Kyle alive a Hewitt. He would try to catch.
- 4:01:01He trying to snag guy from out front of a car.
- 4:01:03If he's a good dog, owner problem is I don't know that he
- 4:01:07is. What?
- 4:01:09Yeah, well, the thing with the same with, I mean there's a lot
- 4:01:14with Assad and just you know, right?
- 4:01:17Like where genuinely a sack of shit is a person.
- 4:01:20Yeah, but I also understand where he might be frustrated as
- 4:01:23a dog owner, especially if he's following the advice of a
- 4:01:28professional. And I professionals the One,
- 4:01:30Stop The Duel of the ship. Like, it's actually, if that's
- 4:01:34the case, I can see how he would be frustrated because the guy
- 4:01:38genuinely is stupid. So, Like that's the part where I
- 4:01:43actually have some consternation about just going full bore and
- 4:01:47saying, he needs to have the dog taken from he might just be
- 4:01:50listening to a paid professional, and being and be
- 4:01:53too stupid to understand that. Shocking the shed of his dog for
- 4:01:57putting a paw on the floor, is not the way that that thing is
- 4:02:00designed to be used. I wish I, I wish I had been
- 4:02:04there. I think was a lot on last night
- 4:02:07show when you were talking with Steve with Steve in it and I
- 4:02:12don't I write I don't I don't I I kind of get the Steve's whole
- 4:02:17bit now now I'm listening. Yeah like I gotta get the I kind
- 4:02:20of get his bit is being a bit contrarian just in in general.
- 4:02:25But you need even if he was being completely serious, my
- 4:02:30whole thing and Steve Steve, if you're watching, if you're
- 4:02:33watching this, like here's what I would say is like Steve at
- 4:02:39least put effort into like, you know, trying to train his husky
- 4:02:42or you know what not true whereas like son.
- 4:02:48Doesn't put any effort into like, well, the distinction
- 4:02:52there is, he's using it. He's using the color incorrectly
- 4:02:57because he is giving you know, even if you say it was just a
- 4:03:03Yelp from a buzzing sensation versus a shock irrelevant, he is
- 4:03:09training the dog with a He's training.
- 4:03:15A dog with a stick versus versus a treat.
- 4:03:18On on right situation. It was bred.
- 4:03:21It was not bred to handle. Which I get.
- 4:03:26But more to the point. He's he's not repeating the
- 4:03:30stimulus and the command and engaging with the dog.
- 4:03:35He's in Stead just relying on. The you know he's 0 to 60,
- 4:03:40right? He's he's got no in between he's
- 4:03:42relying upon. He's rolling upon the stick with
- 4:03:46no treat. Like the dog.
- 4:03:49He's not like. He's also like he's he's
- 4:03:54ignoring his fucking dog for out for seven hours, straight in a
- 4:03:58day. Except to shock it.
- 4:04:02Hassan's also like that, she not.
- 4:04:05I know that he has time after the after the cameras off, where
- 4:04:08he spent his time with her and goes outside.
- 4:04:10Like I get that he's done the pr thing where he showed it on
- 4:04:14Instagram or whatever. Like, and I assume that he has
- 4:04:19that in his day already. but you know, where is Why not?
- 4:04:25Just in and I've done it. I saw he's been forced to do so.
- 4:04:29I was, I would say why not? Just engage with the dog and
- 4:04:33like, Nobody's gonna get angry at the guy sitting there, raging
- 4:04:38at his fucking microphone and camera, if the dog comes up and
- 4:04:43puts its nose under his arm and then he pets his dog for a
- 4:04:46minute. The audience is not going to be
- 4:04:49like, Oh No Hands, no longer. The hard-hitting, news, man.
- 4:04:52I came to watch I can't I can't believe that I ever gave this
- 4:04:57guy, my parents credit card, they're not going to fucking do
- 4:05:00that. They're gonna go all I should
- 4:05:01pay him more. The fact that he hasn't that
- 4:05:04this hasn't dawned on him is is Well, it's speaks to his
- 4:05:10culture. I I have this whole like in my
- 4:05:15in my mind, I have this whole like I have this whole like
- 4:05:19visual like you know, play kind of in my head if if you like of
- 4:05:26like of of chank calling Hassan up and being like and be like
- 4:05:34God damn I thought God damn well Hassan you're my idiot.
- 4:05:38Nephew what the fuck did you do? Now, like I and I've seen it,
- 4:05:44I've seen, you know we've all seen shank rage rage out.
- 4:05:48Right? So I so I could totally see, you
- 4:05:51know, shank being the abuse of You know, like Tony Soprano, you
- 4:05:56know? Style like Angry uncle or
- 4:05:59something. Or something and just raging as
- 4:06:02idiot, nephew. nephew, you know, to fix this or no here.
- 4:06:17Thanks. Thanks that.
- 4:06:20If it's not harming me, the animal.
- 4:06:26The animal. You should be allowed to
- 4:06:28pleasure. You know.
- 4:06:34And that's supported by his own fucking words.
- 4:06:36Oh yeah. If you're just pleasuring the
- 4:06:39animal that you know, It was having a good time.
- 4:06:45And, you know, Is as far as that's the part where I've kind
- 4:06:50of violently disagree with with Jake.
- 4:06:52Is that why? I don't think.
- 4:06:56I don't think people like Jen should be blowing cats.
- 4:06:58You don't mean is that why Anna finally from The Young Turks
- 4:07:06Know, I think she figured out that The Young Turks is what
- 4:07:09they called, the Hitler Youth and and turkey when they went
- 4:07:12after the Armenians and then she it might have finally fucking
- 4:07:16dawned on her that she's working at.
- 4:07:18Like imagine if imagine if right to offend media was called the
- 4:07:23Hitler Youth media. That's what The Young Turks is.
- 4:07:28For Armenians. Yeah.
- 4:07:31So also, let's not forget that The Young Turks, the very same
- 4:07:36name, group of effectively, Hitler Youth, they sent 60,000
- 4:07:40dogs to an island to starve to death.
- 4:07:45Now, I'm not saying that Hassan. Is.
- 4:07:51Going to do that to Kaya. I think that is, I think that
- 4:07:54would be even even in just, I think that's, that's too far.
- 4:08:01I think that it's speaks to the culture in which he was brought
- 4:08:04up that he thinks the way that he's behaving with Kaya is kind
- 4:08:09Like not nice but kind yeah, he's being kind by training.
- 4:08:13His dog to be a prop, which he said he's doing is to train her
- 4:08:18to be a prop. Well, he well, he, well, I mean
- 4:08:20that that really doesn't surprise me too much.
- 4:08:23I mean, he thinks he's probably he's a narcissist.
- 4:08:25Yes he well I mean he does he probably thinks it's an act of
- 4:08:30kindness to kill. I mean he probably does think
- 4:08:34it's like an act kindness kill. Capitalists.
- 4:08:40Well, that I think. I'm not sure on that one.
- 4:08:45I think he's kindness I think is is probably not entering into
- 4:08:49the well more more like just I would say morally Justified
- 4:08:54certainly and his in his context. but yeah, it's like I
- 4:08:59think that, you know, from his upbringing in his background, I
- 4:09:03think that It's again, you know, he talks about Consulting with
- 4:09:08vets and dog trainers. For everything he does.
- 4:09:13And I believe him when he says that, I don't believe he's
- 4:09:17following through on their advice intelligently.
- 4:09:22But I believe he genuinely consults with people.
- 4:09:25With experts, in order, in order to move forward on these kinds
- 4:09:28of things. I just yeah, involve having Kaya
- 4:09:33Ride the Lightning every time she decides to like shift
- 4:09:36position. like seriously, like if I'm gonna train my dog, To do
- 4:09:45something. You know, and I'm gonna push
- 4:09:48over with dogs as it is, but like, if I get a train my dog to
- 4:09:50do something and I need the dog to be in a specific position.
- 4:09:55It's not going to be the two of us just sitting there in
- 4:09:59general. Without some kind of interaction
- 4:10:04to to stimulate the dog's mind. But he talks about structure and
- 4:10:08stimulation but then he sits there for seven hours with no
- 4:10:13structure and no stimulation for the dog Beyond, if you get up,
- 4:10:17you'll get zapped. well, I mean when my dog got older, when I
- 4:10:22was younger I would go out with my dog and the two of us would
- 4:10:26lay down on the front porch out. Slide the front door and watched
- 4:10:30people passing by cars and people.
- 4:10:32You know, and we've got we got a decent sized lot.
- 4:10:34So like we're we're a decent ways away from the street.
- 4:10:38So I've got space to get up and chase after and catch the dog at
- 4:10:43the time. Should he decide to get up and
- 4:10:46try and Bolt? But like you know it didn't take
- 4:10:49much for the two of us to just hang out there.
- 4:10:51You know, and I pet him which is stimulation and a reason to not
- 4:10:55leave. Like the fact is Hassan should
- 4:11:00be interacting with Kaya during the stream if he's gonna have
- 4:11:05Kaya in the room like that. I mean.
- 4:11:09I mean, I I had a service dog when I was a kid and the one
- 4:11:13thing that when we were, when I was in training with the, with
- 4:11:17the dog, because we had to go through, you know, Fernando's
- 4:11:22training as your dog. Definitely Excel on your
- 4:11:26personality too. and if you have, if you up like an
- 4:11:32unpleasant, you know, Personality to be with and you
- 4:11:36know in general. Well then your dogs and gonna
- 4:11:39pick up On that. Yeah, you know Bill Burr talked
- 4:11:44about this too as a reason for him to take care of his anger
- 4:11:48problem as he had a pitbull. And, you know, he was he didn't
- 4:11:52realize that he his anger issues were causing his Pitbull to act
- 4:11:57out. You know, like he'd take the dog
- 4:11:59out for a walk and then he at the end of The Walk.
- 4:12:04Race it to the door. Which, you know, just bringing
- 4:12:08up the energy further, you know. And as he's walking down the
- 4:12:11street, if you know, cussing about this that or the other,
- 4:12:14the dog's Ticking up on that. So he's just like, getting his
- 4:12:19dog all amped up and he's wondering why it's tearing ass
- 4:12:21around the house. You know, it's he didn't.
- 4:12:25He didn't like get anything energy out while he's out up out
- 4:12:28on a walk. He just got it more anxious.
- 4:12:31And then, you know, raced it to the house.
- 4:12:34The place is supposed to feel secure and yeah.
- 4:12:38The god Bill Burr is a weird is a weird one, too?
- 4:12:43Because he lost so hard, man. Well, he went from being like
- 4:12:47Mr. Anger management. To being like, you know, pretty
- 4:12:50okay. There for a while since now he's
- 4:12:52just like, completely like It's nia nia.
- 4:12:57Fuck. Yeah.
- 4:12:58So hard Here's the thing is, like.
- 4:13:02She pre 2015. Pre-election run.
- 4:13:06Nia would have been ready to suck.
- 4:13:08Trump's cock. To be in a to be in the same
- 4:13:12room as him. And then there she is flicking
- 4:13:16him off as he's walking by in the audience.
- 4:13:20Like just get the fuck out. She's she is.
- 4:13:25She was a good and a bad influence on Bill Burr, early
- 4:13:29on, in their relationship. Great influence.
- 4:13:31She combed his ass down in a way that was excellent.
- 4:13:35And he still was funny. And then her sjw shit just
- 4:13:40turned up. And it just infected him.
- 4:13:46Yeah, it's so wild. Yeah, that'll happen. but, Well,
- 4:13:57as I know it's after the witching hour for you, it is 120
- 4:14:02and I didn't realize we've gotten that far.
- 4:14:04I just looked up and saw four hours.
- 4:14:07Yeah, yeah, but I I coming on and that's a good talk.
- 4:14:12So yeah. finally it's it's good to, you know shoot the breeze
- 4:14:18out some of the stuff you know because it's like I said it's
- 4:14:23It's Been a Good Year overall and then man just the whole the
- 4:14:28whole Charlie Kirk thing like nobody saw that coming I you
- 4:14:32know, yeah at all and like so it's funny it's like a lot of
- 4:14:38this stuff like we as much you know, muscles were friends like
- 4:14:43A lot of interactions ends up being like on on X or in these
- 4:14:47podcasts. Yeah, you know, we're You know,
- 4:14:51we have some chatter in the background but you know it's
- 4:14:54nice to get the time to talk. oh yeah, it it is well, that that's
- 4:15:00the other thing too is like like I said, like, you know, I I knew
- 4:15:07I didn't know trial like extreme all personally, but it's it's
- 4:15:10really kind of wild because like I I witnessed him.
- 4:15:15You know, kind of go from like an unknown to, you know, that I
- 4:15:20did see. Him like the one man on campus
- 4:15:24to have a whole freaking organization, like tpusa from
- 4:15:28ground up. Yeah.
- 4:15:29And that, and that was wild like, even even knowing them,
- 4:15:33like, tangents in the way I did and like having like having like
- 4:15:37my Aunt like my real life kind of, you know, intercede with
- 4:15:41like, you know the internet in the way it did is kind of is
- 4:15:46kind of wild. So but, Anyway, well Craig, I
- 4:15:54want to thank you for coming on. And that one.
- 4:15:59I want to thank you for tuning in as well, if you're still
- 4:16:03watching this. So Appreciate you and we'll be
- 4:16:07back on Wednesday. so, Stay Thank you for tuning in and
- 4:16:15we'll talk to you down the road. The right to offend is not some
- 4:16:20pesky little part of freedom of speech.
- 4:16:25And lungs of freedom of speech. It is the coolest thing.
- 4:16:29Life flood of human projects, it is the instigator of Liberty,
- 4:16:34and modernity and Science and understanding.
- 4:16:37What a laughing stock today's student leaders are that they
- 4:16:41can. So casually dismiss the right to
- 4:16:44be offensive without realizing that they're lovely.
- 4:16:47Enlightened lives are the gift of individuals who gave offense
- 4:16:52offensiveness is not just something we have to
- 4:16:55begrudgingly. Accept offensiveness is the
- 4:16:59motor of human progress. Thank you for watching the
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