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EXCLUSIVE: Selling Sunset's Chelsea Lazkani · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 2: She's here, and I could not be happier than two.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fanning out.
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  Speaker 3: I'm fanning out.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm fanning out, Fanny.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you know how much I adore you
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  Speaker 2: and love you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of yours.
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  Speaker 2: Chelsea las Kannie from selling Sunset Bitch.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a fan of yours because I don't do podcasts,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I tell everybody I do not do podcasts
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  Speaker 4: because I also don't believe in talking about a lot
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  Speaker 4: of things that goes on the show and not addressing
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  Speaker 4: them with the people directly. That's just that's my philosophy.
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  Speaker 4: I rather just talk to the person directly. But when
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  Speaker 4: I've been a big fan of yours for a long time,
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  Speaker 4: when you reached out to me, I said, if there's
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  Speaker 4: one podcast I'm the dow, it's Carlos's. And I text
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  Speaker 4: my agents. They were like, what, Chelsea, We've been trying
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  Speaker 4: to get you to do poscasts for like a year
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  Speaker 4: and a half.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna do this one.
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  Speaker 4: He sees me, and he respects me, and even if
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  Speaker 4: he asks tops questions, I know that he's coming from
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  Speaker 4: a place of love. And I need someone to I
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  Speaker 4: need someone to see me to ask me the right questions.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise I don't want to I don't want to have
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  Speaker 3: small talk.
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  Speaker 1: Don't make me cry. Don't make me cry. That means
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  Speaker 1: a lot to me.
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  Speaker 2: I created this podcast to be a safe space for
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  Speaker 2: peep on reality television, especially black women who dominate reality TV.
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  Speaker 2: And the moment you stepped foot on selling Sunset, Me
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  Speaker 2: and My group Chat and the Rain drops.
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  Speaker 1: We were all like, who.
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  Speaker 2: Is this bad bitch that is about to set this
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  Speaker 2: show on fire?
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  Speaker 1: And you have not let us down.
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  Speaker 2: The community loves you, I mean the black community.
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  Speaker 1: We ride for you. We ride for you.
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  Speaker 2: You are a beautiful, dark skinned black woman, African born
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  Speaker 2: and raised in the UK, right, and we're proud of you.
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  Speaker 2: And I want you to know that we see you.
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  Speaker 2: I see you and baby were about to have some fun.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna make me cry.
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  Speaker 2: No, we see you, and I want to know that
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  Speaker 2: we see you, and we're no, no, no, don't don't cry.
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  Speaker 1: Make up, honey.
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  Speaker 2: But I need you to know, speaking on behalf of
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  Speaker 2: the black community, we're proud of you. You you hold
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  Speaker 2: it down on that show. And I know it's hard.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that later. Actually, let's get into it now.
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  Speaker 2: You as a dark skinned black woman coming into selling sunset?
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  Speaker 1: How did that come about?
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  Speaker 4: Minded my business, I had my real estate license, so
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  Speaker 4: I got my real estate license actually to purchase my
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  Speaker 4: own house. That's the only reason I got my real
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  Speaker 4: estate license because I worked in oil and gas. I
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  Speaker 4: worked for oil gas company, did my master and oil
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  Speaker 4: and gas. And my husband and I recently got married
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  Speaker 4: and we wanted to purchase our mouthful home. I was
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  Speaker 4: looking at house in Manhattan Beach and I saw the
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  Speaker 4: commission on the houses, and I said, I'll be damned
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  Speaker 4: if I give this away to somebody that can do
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  Speaker 4: what I can do. So I went to real estate school,
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  Speaker 4: probably lasted about five six weeks, took my exam. I've
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  Speaker 4: got a very I got a retentive memory, so I
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  Speaker 4: can pretty much study for anything the day before and
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  Speaker 4: pass it. That's what got me through my undergrad and master's.
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  Speaker 4: And I took the exam, I passed it, and I
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  Speaker 4: purchased my house with my husband.
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  Speaker 1: You kept the commission and I kept the.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty much how I got my real estate license.
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  Speaker 4: And then I started to do transactions for families and friends.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, guys, if you're looking to buy
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  Speaker 4: or sell a house, I know traditionally they take two
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  Speaker 4: point five percent, but you're my homie. I'll do it
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  Speaker 4: for like two percent, or I'll do it for one
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  Speaker 4: point five. You know what, maybe I'll do it for free.
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  Speaker 3: Just break me off like a nice dinner at Nobo.
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  Speaker 3: We just gotta pay. We just got to pay my brokerage.
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  Speaker 4: And this is when I was working at Rode Royalty,
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  Speaker 4: which is a more traditional brokerage. I was like, I
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  Speaker 4: would be like some my my broker, I would be
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  Speaker 4: like Chelsea. They'll be like, Chelsea, you're buying another house.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, no, No, my sister is buying a house.
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  Speaker 4: The person is not related to me. I can't charge
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  Speaker 4: my sister the two point five percent. She's a struggling woman. Like,
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  Speaker 4: come on, technically, if my sister's buying the house, I'm
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  Speaker 4: buying the house.
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  Speaker 3: So it was always it was always good fun.
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  Speaker 1: So what year did you get your real estate license?
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  Speaker 4: I got my real estate license in two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and yeah, twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, And who approached you to be on selling Sunset
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  Speaker 2: the producer?
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  Speaker 1: How did they find you?
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: So I had a very private account, probably two thousand followers.
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  Speaker 4: I only posted myself and my partner. I didn't most
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  Speaker 4: of my Instagram photos, which some of which are still there,
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  Speaker 4: are just travel photos, folks, from our wedding, photos from
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  Speaker 4: our life together. You know, didn't really have many friends
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  Speaker 4: here because I had moved here from the UK and
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  Speaker 4: hadn't really gotten into any social circles, and I just
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  Speaker 4: got a message one day from a producer.
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  Speaker 3: Never never ever.
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  Speaker 4: Watched Selling Sunset A Day in My Life, Never watch
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  Speaker 4: Selling Sunset a Day in my Life on Bible, never
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  Speaker 4: watched it. Saw the message, ran to my husband and
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  Speaker 4: was like, this producer wants to interview me for this show.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, this is going to be some random guy
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  Speaker 4: in Saudi Arabia that wants to see your tips. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you are not going to be my up right now.
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  Speaker 4: You are not going to be my enemy of progress.
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  Speaker 4: I'll speak to you later, sir, the pipe person, I am.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not really formal as much as people look at
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  Speaker 4: me and they think, you know, I come across a reform. No,
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  Speaker 4: I'm very I just say what's on my mind. Message
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  Speaker 4: back instantly, and I'm like, hey, can you jump on
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  Speaker 4: a call real quick? And that the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: What made you say yes to being on the show,
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  Speaker 1: knowing that.
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  Speaker 2: You're a private person with a private Instagram account, not
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  Speaker 2: feeling like you said earlier, this beautiful bombshell? What made
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  Speaker 2: you say yes to this opportunity?
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  Speaker 4: So there are a lot of reasons, but I think
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  Speaker 4: first and foremost have to go back to my faith,
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  Speaker 4: God definitely said this is for me. Like before I
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  Speaker 4: even got the opportunity, there was this overwhelming feeling that
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  Speaker 4: God wanted this for me. Then after my first phone call,
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  Speaker 4: I watched the show, and you know, I see these
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  Speaker 4: beautiful women crushing it in this industry and making a
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  Speaker 4: lot of money and being very aspirational with a large platform.
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  Speaker 4: But I see nobody that looks like me, and my
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  Speaker 4: heart like shattered because I was petrified.
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  Speaker 3: But I knew that this was this was.
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  Speaker 4: An opportunity for me to be that representation first and foremost,
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  Speaker 4: and then secondly, if not me, maybe there won't be
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  Speaker 4: another one. And knowing that if I got this opportunity
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  Speaker 4: and turned it down because of fear, the audience don't
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  Speaker 4: have that person to look to.
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  Speaker 3: So I said, as.
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  Speaker 4: Much as I want to do this for me and
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  Speaker 4: for my career, I really want to do it for
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  Speaker 4: my brownskin girls who maybe lack motivation, maybe feel like
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  Speaker 4: they can't crush it in their respective films that are
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  Speaker 4: dominated by people that don't look like them. And although
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a top I wasn't a top seller, I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't in the luxury market.
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  Speaker 3: Then I said, I'm going to do this. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to show it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to show that it can be done because
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  Speaker 4: it's important. Representation is important, No.
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  Speaker 2: It is, and you represent us very very well on
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  Speaker 2: that show because you're being your authentic self and we
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  Speaker 2: can see it, and you're funny, aspirational, and you do
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  Speaker 2: a damn good job. And the reason why I know
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  Speaker 2: you do a damn good job is because Jason compliment
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  Speaker 2: to you a great deal, even at the reunion when
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  Speaker 2: he said, no, honey, I don't think you guys understand.
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  Speaker 2: I take her around and she's killing it. So that's
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  Speaker 2: a testament to just you and your hard work. But
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  Speaker 2: before we continue with that, I want to go back
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. You're from the UK, you're an African woman.
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  Speaker 2: What was your childhood like being African and growing up
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  Speaker 2: in the UK.
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  Speaker 3: My child was beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: There there was a lot of strife and struggles because
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  Speaker 4: first generation. Both my parents were born and raised in Nigeria,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, the great British dream, if you would
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  Speaker 4: like to call it. They moved to the UK for
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  Speaker 4: better prospects and better opportunities. They had me, my brother
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  Speaker 4: and sister, and they worked damn hard. My parents both
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  Speaker 4: kept multiple jobs. We never knew I never knew struggle,
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  Speaker 4: and there were a lot of struggles, but I never
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  Speaker 4: knew struggles because my parents went above and beyond to
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  Speaker 4: make sure we were sheltered from it. My mum was
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  Speaker 4: recruited very early on, probably when I was about i'd
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  Speaker 4: say nine or ten, to work for her first company abroad,
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  Speaker 4: which was in Switzerland, and then she was recruited again
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  Speaker 4: to work for another larger company in New Jersey, which
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  Speaker 4: was Johnston Johnson's, and she was C Suite at Johnston Johnson's.
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  Speaker 4: So I always had amazing representation and amazing role models
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  Speaker 4: from both of my parents. My dad is an architect
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  Speaker 4: and he was in property development, so I saw my parents,
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  Speaker 4: who don't speak like myself, they have African accents, really
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  Speaker 4: work extremely hard in Ghana respect in their respective fields.
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  Speaker 4: So hard work and hustle was ingrained in me from
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  Speaker 4: a very young age. But I didn't have the family
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  Speaker 4: dynamic that most people have. We didn't have dinner around
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  Speaker 4: the tables. I didn't have the many Christmases that I
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  Speaker 4: didn't see my mom or my dad. Maybe I saw
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  Speaker 4: one of them because we were in two different countries, but.
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  Speaker 3: I just had so much respect for.
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  Speaker 4: Them because they loved life, but they loved to work
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  Speaker 4: and they knew that like, you got to work ten
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  Speaker 4: times as hard, ten times as hard always and put
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  Speaker 4: your head down and the results will come. So I
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  Speaker 4: never feared making it anywhere because I saw my parents
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  Speaker 4: come from less than me. They ran so I could
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  Speaker 4: just walk and chill. So that's what my family life
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  Speaker 4: was like.
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  Speaker 2: And we saw your mother up here on the show,
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  Speaker 2: and one thing you mentioned is you didn't celebrate your birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Why was that?
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  Speaker 4: Birthdays were always a little bit triggering for me because
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  Speaker 4: for the most of my birthdays, not all my family
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  Speaker 4: was present. So although I lived in the UK with
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  Speaker 4: my dad, my brother and sister and mum lived in
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  Speaker 4: either Switzerland or New Jersey, so when birthdays roll around,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have like my whole family there, So I
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  Speaker 4: always wanted to glaze over the day because for the
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  Speaker 4: most part, I think your parents celebrate your birthday's the
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  Speaker 4: most I had French.
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  Speaker 3: I had friends, but.
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  Speaker 4: Your parents the ones that really go all out. And
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  Speaker 4: it's not to say my parents didn't. We were just
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  Speaker 4: it was all about subsistence. We were just trying to
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  Speaker 4: We were just trying to live. We were just trying
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  Speaker 4: to make it. So birthdays weren't a big thing in
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  Speaker 4: my household, so I never celebrated them, never celebrating them.
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  Speaker 4: And then as I grew older and I got to
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  Speaker 4: a place where I could celebrate myself, or I could
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  Speaker 4: have my partner celebrate me, or I could have friends
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  Speaker 4: celebrate me, i'd kind of just I changed the day
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  Speaker 4: on my Facebook. I changed my birthday on my Facebook
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  Speaker 4: every single year so that when it came to my birthday,
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  Speaker 4: nobody would go and you know, you see it in
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  Speaker 4: the little corner, it's Chelsea Addi Foyer, which is my
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  Speaker 4: maiden name, or Chelsea Luis Connie's birthday. I would change
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  Speaker 4: it so nobody would know it's my birthday.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why when you celebrated your birthday on this
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  Speaker 2: season I'm selling Sunset, it was a big deal for
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  Speaker 2: you because you didn't do that growing.
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  Speaker 1: Up because your mother was traveling working.
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  Speaker 2: So was there this vision where it's like you stay
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  Speaker 2: with your dad and the rest of the stems go
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  Speaker 2: with mom.
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  Speaker 3: So it's this is.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of where my mind gets a little bit blurry,
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  Speaker 4: you know. I think trauma has a way of blurring
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  Speaker 4: certain realities. From what I remember, I was at a
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  Speaker 4: fundamental stage in my academic whereby moving at that point
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  Speaker 4: in time wouldn't be beneficial for me in terms of
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  Speaker 4: academically because I was I think I was just before
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  Speaker 4: sixth form and I needed to create I needed to
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  Speaker 4: finish my first set of exams. However, my brother, who
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  Speaker 4: is five years my junior, and my sister, who is
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  Speaker 4: almost two years my senior, there were perfect points where
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  Speaker 4: they could just transition easily into the US school system
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  Speaker 4: and not have any like they didn't miss out on anything.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I remember. So I ended up staying the
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  Speaker 4: UK with my dad, and my brother and sister moved
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  Speaker 4: to New Jersey with my mum.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier you never saw yourself as a beauty girl,
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  Speaker 2: so you devoted yourself to being smart, Like I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to be smart, I'm going to figure out life. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be happy. Why didn't you feel like a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful girl growing up? Because when I look at you,
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  Speaker 2: you are gorgeous. I mean, bone structure, galore and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: So what didn't you see in yourself as a little
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  Speaker 2: girl that I see now in you as a woman.
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  Speaker 3: I think beauty really is.
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  Speaker 4: Comes from inside, and I think because I didn't feel
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  Speaker 4: beautiful inside, I didn't exude the confidence you may see today.
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  Speaker 3: So I never really saw beauty.
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  Speaker 4: As aesthetics, as the way you look on the outside,
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  Speaker 4: because for the most part, I grew up in an
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  Speaker 4: area that was predominantly white, so I didn't have representations
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  Speaker 4: of beauty around me. So I always saw myself as
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  Speaker 4: an anomaly, So I never saw myself as beautiful, so
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  Speaker 4: I focused more or on beauty was like who you
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  Speaker 4: are as a person. But because I was struggling a
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  Speaker 4: lot and obviously focusing a lot of school and not
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  Speaker 4: having what most people had, which was both their parents
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  Speaker 4: therefore picture day or both their parents there for classes
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  Speaker 4: or parent teacher Day, whatever it was, I just felt like,
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  Speaker 4: as blessed as I am, my realities are just a
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  Speaker 4: little bit harder being a black woman with two immigrant parents,
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  Speaker 4: And I think that beauty was less physical and was
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  Speaker 4: just like like, I'm a little bit of a mess,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I got a little bit more struggles than
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  Speaker 4: all my white counterparts.
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  Speaker 3: I can never be here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always going to be here, and maybe one day,
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  Speaker 4: if I keep working, I'll get to hear.
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  Speaker 3: That's why.
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  Speaker 4: That's really where my understanding of beauty came from, just
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  Speaker 4: having it all together. And because I didn't have it,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like trying to figure out my hair, trying to
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  Speaker 4: clip in a wig, just trying to just really trying
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  Speaker 4: to get by, quite honestly.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to get by.
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  Speaker 4: So of course I had many, you know, black friends,
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  Speaker 4: I have black family and stuff like that. But we
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  Speaker 4: were all in the same boat. We were all in
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  Speaker 4: we were we'd all talk together about the same things.
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  Speaker 3: We all felt like we.
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  Speaker 4: Were under like underseen, you know, or misscen maybe if
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  Speaker 4: that's if that's a if that's a word. So this
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  Speaker 4: goes back to representation. And then as I got older
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  Speaker 4: and you start to see the likes of Gabrielle Union
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  Speaker 4: and you start to see these beautiful queen's crushing, it's
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  Speaker 4: your power starts coming back and you start to think, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I could be like that, I could do this, But
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  Speaker 4: at a young age, I didn't have that representation.
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  Speaker 2: You do know that there's black girls who are seeing
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  Speaker 2: you today the way you saw Gabrielle Union, So you
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  Speaker 2: should take that in the way you saw her saying,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I felt seen. Just know that there's
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  Speaker 2: little brownskin girls who love Realcity Television who were fans
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  Speaker 2: of Selling Sunset and they're looking at you. I hope
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  Speaker 2: you know that they too are like, there she is, Mom,
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  Speaker 2: Look there she is. There she is, and you should
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  Speaker 2: own that and just know that you're paying it forward
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  Speaker 2: the way Gabrielle Union did it for you and the
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  Speaker 2: other brownskin girls growing up.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you could that means something.
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  Speaker 3: That means a lot.
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  Speaker 1: No, that means something.
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  Speaker 2: So with your mom being gone and every little girl
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  Speaker 2: wants their mom around to teach them how to be
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  Speaker 2: a woman, was there a strain of your relationship with
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  Speaker 2: her growing up?
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  Speaker 3: Very much? So? I see myself I'm very much like
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: my mother.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: My mother is the most charismatic, beautiful, intelligent, hard working
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: woman I've ever met in my whole life.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: But she's hard working to a fault.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: So if she sets her mind to something, and for
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: her it was to provide equally with my father, she's
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: going for throttle at it because she knew that she
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: looked and sounded different to everybody. It's one thing to
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: look different, but to sound different. You know, you have
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: to break that notion the moment you open your mouth
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: when you don't sound like myself or or you. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: we struggled a lot because commune, we didn't communicate as
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: much as I would like. I didn't feel supported, I
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: didn't feel seen. And it was only when I had
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: my own kids and I'm like, I get it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: You were just trying to survive.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: She wanted to have us in the best schools, with
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: maybe tutors, the best education, so that we could do more,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: or so we could struggle less, is what she would say,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: so we could. She was like, I don't want you to.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Go through what I've been through. This is why I'm
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: doing this because I want you in private schools.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: I want you in areas where I want you in
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: areas and social circles where you could you're set up
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: to thrive from the jump. I don't want you to
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: go through what I've been through. But it's only when
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I got older that I started that I really really
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: understood it. At that point in time, I'm like, you
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: left me, you know, I just I just wanted you here,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: But that's not the reality.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: So no, listen.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I think one thing we realized as we get older
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: is that our parents sacrifice a lot for us to.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Be the human beings we are today.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: You're obviously accomplished, successful, well rounded, and a lot of
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: that has to deal with the fact that your parents
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: sacrificed the closeness that they may have not had being
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: with you every single day in order for you to
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: be here sitting next to Carlos King.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Honey, So we thank your mom and dad.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Thank you God, thank you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I mean we did it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I did it, so job well done. You have not
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: only an undergrad degree, you have a massive degree. Read
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: your degrees. This is so funny about me learning more
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: about you. I had no idea that you can get
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a degree in oil and gas, Like if that ain't
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: some shit where you have to be a smart mother.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: You are not only a woman, a black woman, African
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: woman in the UK. When we think of oil and gas,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: let's be real, we think of rich white men. We
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: think of airs of the of the oil father or
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: grandfather who left the legacy to his children. We think
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: of Houston, Texas. We don't think about it in terms
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: of getting a degree in this subject matter. What was
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: happening to where you were, Like, that's what I want
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to study.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: So my mind works very numerically and I'm obviously Nigerian,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and Nigeria possesses an abundance of oil resources, and I
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: just took a great lik into it. I had plenty
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: of Nigerian friends growing up, and I always saw myself
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: maybe one day moving back to Nigeria, and I wanted
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: to be a part of legislation, legislation there, so I
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: said why not. It was very It was very fascinating
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: to me. I loved sciences. I was really good in it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I was really good in math. And a lot of
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the people I knew in those respective industries were very wealthy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: So said, okay, where's the coiner.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna be here, be rich.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: No one thing you said on selling Sunset this is
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: when I was like, oh, she's my bitch, and I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: forever like a fan.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You said something your first season. You was having dinner.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: It was your husband and Jason, I remember, and you said,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay so I have to work. Before that,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you said something that I said, if Carlos King has
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: something on his tombstone, it would be this. You said,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and I quote, I will never suffer in this life ever.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Never.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I will never suffer in this life because I am
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: going to work hard for what? And I said, no,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: we'll talk this me being funny and silly, I said, oh,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I see her and she sees me. Because I do
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: feel like nowadays, I'll say, you don't got to. Nowadays,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: nobody wants to work hard. They want things easy. They
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: want to be able to just have things familiar. Lab
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: they don't know how to keep it and sustain it
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: and multiply it. So when you said I want suck,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: but you said it was such conviction that it it
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: literally shook me. And I kept rewinding it on my
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Netflix app and I recorded it and I posted on
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: my page as my Monday motivation because I said, this
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: girl's going places so me knowing that about you, you
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: get this degree, obviously it makes a lot of money.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Did you start working in that field post graduation?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I did so.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I worked with two oil and gas companies actually out
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: here in Los Angeles.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I only left.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: My last company, which is an oil and gas company,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: was actually Liquifinancial Gas. I think it was just right
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: before getting my real estate license.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I left it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I left it just before I took the test for
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: my real estate license because I knew I was going
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: to pivot, and this was the time I was planning
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: to have my first child as well, and I knew
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: that I was working nine to six and then probably
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: coming home and doing some more work, and I knew
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: that it wasn't going to be sustainable.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: When I'm looking start a family.
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  Speaker 2: This is Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. Doctor Wendy Osefo is
• 26:18
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• 26:19
  Speaker 1: You love her? I love her too. She's my girl.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: She was on my podcast and she educated me about
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: being the child of Nigerian parents and how they want
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you to be the best of the best to make
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: all the money in the world.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: What was that conversation like when your mom found.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Out you were leaving your corporate job and taking a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: real estate license class, I mean real estate class to
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: get your license.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: So my mom's very supportive, but she said listen, you
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: need to work, because if you think that your husband
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: just wants you to be there and spend his money,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: you're joking. Because, like to be honest with you, at
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: being in a interracial relationship, I think my mum's very
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: heavy on Chelsea. Make sure you have your own and
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: make sure you have you're respected, you know, because at
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: the same time, you don't look like everyone else, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: you need your man to respect you. And the only
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: way your man can respect you is if you work.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: That was her philosophy, and that was ingrained so deeply
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: in me. So no matter who I've married, I was
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: always going to work. I was never going to be,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you know, somebody that I was never not going to
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: contribute financially to my household. So I knew that when
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I do pivot, I have to make sure this works too.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: So in real estate started to work. It started to work.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I realized that this is why everyone has their real
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: estate license, because it's not that hard.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I love you, get it, man, and we'll talk. Loves.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: We'll talk afterwards, because I may. When I hire you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to find me a house, we'll talk. I did ask.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I'll call you later because I'm so fascinated. But I
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: love real estate, and I'm so fascinated by the transactional
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: aspect of it because I'm independent. I love the fact
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: that a real estate agents you make your own schedule
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, if you don't work,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you don't get paid. So I love that self starting
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: nature of it. Going back to your your husband, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: love your relationship with him. I can If you don't
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: know this, I'm gonna tell you that man loves you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I can tell by the way. It's very subtle.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: But because I work with women who's who's either married
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: or single, I can tell when I'm like, girl, he
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: don't see it for you, not five more years, he's
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: gonna break up with you.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Your husband loves you? Down down?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: How did you two meet on Tinder?
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: He was my first hinder day. He snatched me, snatched
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: me his eleven years my senior and I came out here.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: So funny story, and I haven't I haven't really shared this,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: but I moved here just before I moved here, sorry,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: just after completing my masters, I came over here with
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: one suitcase. And you asked me why, because you're very surprised.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: I was running away from my ex boyfriend, who was
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: very abusive, was in a very very toxic place in
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: my life relationship wise, and I knew that I had
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: to just I had to, you know, like proximity is
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: something because you can mentally leave a relationship, but if
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: your proximity in the person are closed, you can find
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: yourself like going back into that same cycle.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: And that's what I saw. So I literally booked a
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: ticket term Los Angeles.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: My mum had an apartment here and she was transitioning
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: between between rolls and I grabbed a suitcase and filled
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: it up and left.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: He was physically abusive to you. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: so you you escaped.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Town m h and moved here with one suitcase.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with no plan.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I had a little bit of a plan because I'm
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: a big planner, being the academic that I am.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I said, Okay, let me go get one more degree.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: That's what I said.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna go get an mb I'm going
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: to go get an MBA. So I started studying for
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: the gap because I wanted to go to Columbia and
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: my sister lived in New York. My sister was working
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: on Wall Street. She had just finished her master's at Wharton,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and I said, Okay, this is my plan, and we're
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: going to live together. You know, we hadn't lived together
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: for maybe over a decade. Now everything's going to come
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: full circle. We're going to live together. And then I started,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: so why I put on Tinder and I saw this
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: one lovely chap and we connected and the rest is history.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Because I remember he said to me, he's eleven eleven
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: years my senior, obviously and established in his profession. He said,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: you can't keep getting these degrees.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: You need experience.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I was like, what what do you mean? He was like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you need to get some work experience. You need to
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: get a job. And I'm like, this is I was
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: twenty right, I was like a job.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I was hoping to like stay in school for a
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: couple more years because school school for me was very easy,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: you know. So I took his advice and I still studied.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I still I did the GMAT. I still put myself
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: in a position whereby I have a score that allows
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: me to apply for any school if I wanted to.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: But let me get a job. And I got my
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: first job in the United States, and then the job,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: the job I was in west Lake Village. He lived
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: in the valley. My mom's apartment was in Glendale. You know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I hadn't got my license at this time, so I
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: was ubering to my job. It didn't really make sense financially.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: So I remember one day I stayed at his place
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and I was like, I was leaving. I did it
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: for about five six days, and I remember I came home.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I came to his place one day after work because
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: he lived twenty minutes away from my job, and he
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: just had a key.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: He was like, do you want this? Like sure, okay.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: So my mom was moving into a new role in
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: a different state, and I had already moved in.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Honey, I hadn't moved in. It was like three months in.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I had moved. I had moved in.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I went back to the apartment which my brother lived,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: and my brother lived up with my mom's apartment, and
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I just came in one day. My mom wasn't around.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: That one suitcase. I threw everything in it. I said me,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I said, peace. But you know what, I'm a planner,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I said, do you know what I'm gonna do? And guys,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you some free game right now. I
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: shouldn't say this. Please forgive me. I'm gonna give you
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: some free games. So everything to me is planning and
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: being smart. So I said, what am I to lose
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: moving in with this man whom I've just met, right,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Because what I'm going to do is I got a
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: full time job and making decent money. I must save
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: all of it because I have a contingency plan if
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: this doesn't work out. I'm no longer sleeping on the
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: sofa because I'm sleeping the sofa my UM's place because
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: it was the two bedroom apartment and my mum would
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: stay in one when she's around, and my brother would
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: say that other as I was. I was the strangler
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: that came from the UK and just was like, hey, guys,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: can you house me? They were like yeah, sure. The
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: sofa very uncomfortable. So I was like, okay, you got
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: a better living situation because now you have a bed, you.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Have groceries that are paid for by.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Someone else, and when you get your checks every two weeks,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: you can just save it because if this doesn't work out,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: then you're not going back to the sofar.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: You're going to get your own partner. Bitch.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's free game and good game. That's very smart.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so then obviously it works out and all
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: the money I saved that ended up buying him a
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Rolex with.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Bitch you you better, you better, bitch you better.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Is he the first white guy you dated?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Mm hmm.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Were you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Like, were you surprised? Yeah?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Were you surprised or did you did you want to
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: experience something new after leaving the UK and leaving that
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: relationship you had.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I think I just became more open.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I think I just got to a point where in
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: my life where I was like, always date. I always
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: date the thugs.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I always love myself a little roadman. I either dated
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: like road men or like my my ex African Nigerian.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I love African men, you know, I just love my culture.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: So it was always the guys that everybody wants, everybody
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: wants them.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I said, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, what is it you
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: want in this life? I said, I want someone that's
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: loyal to me. I want someone that loves me, wants
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: someone that respects me, and I want someone that loves
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: me for me at all times. You know, because I'm very,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: very quirky and a little bit. Just there's multiple sides
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: to me, and I found myself creating this pattern relationships
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: where it would be like.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: You're too loud, or you talk back.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you mean I'm talking back. I'm
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: just giving my opinion. You voiced yours. It's my turn,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: But come on.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: So I thought, let me just open the gates and say,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: whoever comes my way, and whoever seems like good vibes
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: and good energy, I can start dating.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: And that's basically what happened. Whereas before I was like.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Ah, no, yeah, no, Alessa.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I try to Sorry, fellas, but I do tell a
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: lot of my black female friends who are single start
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: dating outside your race. You just you just you just
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: don't know. You don't know. You can't be restricted when
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: it comes to dating. What was your parents reaction when
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you brought the white man home child? Oh?
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: My mom said, wow, can he be? My husband.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Loved My mom loved him more than I loved it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: She loved him so much, she said, that's my daughter.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: My mom was so happy, she was gassed.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Think she wanted to for herself. But no, my my
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: mom was so happy. I didn't really get my dad's
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: thoughts on it, because I tried to keep me and
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: my dad with We have a very litrue relationship. My
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: dad used to used to be in the military. It's
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: very much like, so, how was your day, So like
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: my dad still pretends he doesn't know I have a
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: boob job. He acts so like oblivious to like everything,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: like I'll.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Post the way he communicated. My dad texts me.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: He was like, I just want to let you know
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: I'm very proud of you. You represented very well on
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: selling suddet. It's like nothing about my outfits fape. He
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: doesn't mention anything that's like, I'll post something that's a
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: little bit risque on Instagram. My dad likes and comments
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: on like most of my things on Instagram, the ones
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: that are a bit riskue. He just pretend you didn't
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: see it. He'll never even mention it to me, and
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I love. I love that far a relationship. So I
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: don't know how his initial thoughts on me and me
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: and my partner, but I can only imagine what they
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: would have been.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: He said, hey, lord, this one's gonna leave her.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Because I think growing up in an African household and
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: not seeing many like in trade relationships, you just assume
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: they wouldn't work. You just I think it was just
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: an assumption that, like, how would it work. And I
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: think my dad probably just had those initial fears, although
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: he never voiced them. He was very, very respectful, but
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I can imagine. But I think once everybody met him,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: they were like, Okay, they saw it immediately because they're like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: he's so smitting over her.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: See, I'm telling you, I listen. Obviously I haven't met
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: him in person. The fact that your parents met him
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: in person and felt that way instantly, and I just
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: tell you, two minutes ago, I'm watching the show and
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if you know this girl,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: but he loves you down It's so obvious that obviously
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: you love him too, but he is smitten by you.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm happy that you found love because when you
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: exit an abusive relationship, I know that sometimes it can
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: be scary to give your heart to another man in
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: fear that he may turn around and do the same
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: things to you your previous boyfriend did. So the fact
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: that you found your prince Charming who turned to be
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: your knight enshrining armor and now your husband, and just
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: because it may not have looked like what you thought
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: on paper.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You gave love a chance and we.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: See this happiness that you have right now, and listen, girl,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: you did that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I'm a big believer in energy.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: And this is why I'm so like, you know, I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: so pro happiness and pro love because you never know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: you know, like you genuinely never know. When you just
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: connect with someone and I think. I meet so many
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: of my friends and they're like, oh, I think I
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: want to date outside of my rage.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Should I do it? And I'm like, God, do it.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: And then they kind of like they're like, actually, no,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: They just immediately have the resistance and I'm like, you
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: haven't even tried.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: You have no idea. Listen.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: I love my black men, love I love my black women,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I love I love people in general.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: It's not it's not a race thing.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: It's just finding the energy that messages with yours irrespective
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: of race.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And yes, are there challenges, of course?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Are there certain things that you're going to have to
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: explain and get them to understand. Absolutely, Will they ever
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: feel some of the weight of the world that.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: You feel being black in America? Absolutely not.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: But All relationships have challenges, they all do, and they
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: come in different forms.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: So what challenge is easier for you? My challenge?
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: The challenge that I don't even see as a challenge
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: is communication and understanding and explanation.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: You want to hear me.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: This is how I'm feeling, and then talk up for me,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: my white king, because.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: They gonna listen to you.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, I love you.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Selling Sunset. You came on and we immediately saw this
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: share dion relationship, like the movie Clue is between you
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and Christine. Did the producers introduce you to Christina and
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: say this is your girl, who's going to introduce you
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: to the rest of the cast?
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: No, So everything you saw that transpired on that scene
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: is exactly how it transpired in real life. The first
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: time I've ever laid my eyes on the magical Christine
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: is truly in that moment when I say hi, I'm
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Chelsea LASCARTI petrified as hell, like, oh my gosh, this
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: woman's so tall and beautiful, What the am I doing here?
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: That is exactly how it played out. I was actually
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: just previewing the house, as you saw. I was brought
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: in to preview this beautiful house.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I had no idea it was going to be there.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I had no idea of me.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Thought maybe it was just going to be like a
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: solo scene with just myself so they could test me
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: out on camera because I'd never been tested out on
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: camera before. I'd never been tested out on camera before,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: so they had no idea whether I was.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Just going to be like or I was gonna be
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: like They had no idea.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: That was the first time there was a camera in
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: front of me.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm walking through.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: This house and I remember I got out, I got
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: out of my car, cameras were rolling already, and I
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: walk into the open house. I'm walking into the brokers
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: open rather and I'm like this and I just hear someone.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Saying, Chelsea, you're work.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Chelsea, You're walking into a brokers open look excited.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I am, I am.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: This is happening. This is real life, but this is
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: also TV. But this is real life. You're walking into
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: a Brokeers open. What is your reaction. You're interested in
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: the house, been here before, You're looking at the views,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: You're looking at the ceiling, You're looking you're looking at
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: their appliances.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: But there's cameras.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: And I just walked in and I said, all right,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: you got this and that's that scene.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Do you miss having Christine on the show?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: You know what I do and don't, and I say
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: I do and don't because of two reasons.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I'm very much let go and let God person.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: So any beef you ever seen me, have any disagreement,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I'm always willing to resolve it and move forward. We
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: may not be best of friends, but I'm always willing to
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: coexist in the room with you whereby we both feel
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: comfortable and both can have a good time at all
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: times because we're going to see each other.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: We work for the same brokerage.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: So the reason why I say I don't first is
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: because it became very difficult for some of the ladies
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: and Christine to be in the same room. And as
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: someone who was friends with Christina loved her dearly and
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: started to build friendship with the other girls and start
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: to love them dearly, I was always an awkward position
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: because I never really knew where to stand. I'm like,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I want to be with you, but I want to
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: be with you, but you guys can't come together. It
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: was difficult as someone that is also new and trying
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: to establish trust with amongst everybody to navigate that because
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of the disagreements happened way before I was
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: even a part of the show, so there was no
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: reconciliation that I could do. It was more so like
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: just trying to like manage it so that people felt
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: like I still had loyalty towards you. But I can
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: still have loyalty towards you even though you guys don't
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: see eye to eye.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: And then I say I do because Christine's a bad bitch.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Bad bitch.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Don't use that term frequently. She's the type of person
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: that walks in the room, commands the room, and makes
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: you laugh. While she's commanding the room. She has a
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: presence that like, I'm still in our bi quite honest,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I think her presence is fantastic and i'd love I
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: can't wait to see what she's doing next. So I
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: missed that energy together because there's something really special about
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: being with someone that makes you want to step.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Up your game. You know. You know they say you're
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: the average of the five.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: To me.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: When I was with Christine, I'm like, I'm film with Christine,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: all right, Cool, get all the resources we're really doing
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: it today. So I love people that make me uncomfortable
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: and make me feel like I need to level up.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: And she's she's That's who she is to me.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like Christine did to Selling Sunset what Erica
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Jane did to the Baiverley Hills Housewives, which is everybody
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: stepped their fashion game up undeniably, undeniably, like even Mary
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: and I love Mary, and Mary's on the podcast too,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: like she stepped it up a great deal. Amanda's choices
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: with the gloves, it's you need.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: To each their own.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I'm so I feel like so most people have stylists
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: on the show. I think most of the girls have stylists.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I do not have stylists, So I tend not to
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: comment on people's fashion because a lot of them. When
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I watch the show back seven eight months after filming it,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: The hell you were in Chelsea?
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Come on, what were you thinking on that particular day?
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Is someone that dressed themselves And I literally pulled my wardrobe.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: My wardrobe starting to look like NeiMa Marcus at this point,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: but still my wardrobe, I'm like, what was he thinking?
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: So when I see the other girls and I'm like,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I don't really quite like their style and stuff. I'm like,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: I know they're going through the same thing that I'm
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: going through. We got we're filming four times this week.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: We're like, we need four unique ouvers. Okay, so this
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: looks good, but we need to add a little bit
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: of pizaz.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe let's add a glove.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Let's add a glove, you see, Let's add some crystals
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: to the hair.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Let's add of like the ribbon. We're going to add
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: whatever to give.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: The za because we're like, people want to see fashion.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: This day was not fashion, but we made it fashion
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: because we added socks and a glove and a bow.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Done and like you said, works for some, for others
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: is debatable.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: What has gone on between you and Brie?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my god?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I like Bre.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I like her tea.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: What you guys got past the Nick Canna situation, the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: whole baby father thing.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Are you too just all in water?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Personally. I can't speak for her. I like her, and
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I liketually like her a lot. I've connected with her
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: a couple of times recently. I think for myself, I
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: came in and I came very strong with judgments because
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I had these I'm not gonna pretend like I wasn't
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: aware of who she was or who her baby father was.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: This wasn't a secret, and I didn't want to be
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: the to pretend like it was. Because myself and a
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: lot of the girls, we had all spoken about it,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: like because you find out there's going to be someone
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: new on the cast and you're.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Like, oh my god. We're all like yeah.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: So I think for myself because I had spoken so much,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: and I think I was allowed speaker about it when
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: the camera started rolling.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I didn't want anybody.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: To question how genuine I was in my integrity because
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I had spoken about it. So I felt like I
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: had to voice it to her. There was this overbearing
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: feeling that I had spoken about it. I need to
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: speak about it to you directly, because the only time
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: that I would see her was when we were filming,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: because we hadn't we didn't know each other, we weren't friends.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: And then it spiraled, and it spiraled so fast because
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: I spoke about it. We spoke about in the office,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: and I spoke about it once where I related some
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: information that I shouldn't have relayed, and then everyone else
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: kept speaking about it and asking, So Chelsea, you mean
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: to say you're not going to be friends of Brie
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: because you don't agree with her situation.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: So Chelsea, why don't you like Brie? Again?
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: So Chelsea, didn't you say this about her partner? So
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: chell And then I'm not a silent person. I'm not
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: just gonna sit there and plead the fifth Like I
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: also hadn't built a relationship personally with her. I'd seen
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: her only times I had seen her the times you
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: saw me see her while we're filming, so what five
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: six times? And noncommunicative to one another. So you'd ask me,
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, everything happens in such a short space
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: of time two three, four, five weeks, like we form
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: a season, very short space of time. You ask me
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: these questions, and I'm like, so you're her friend. You
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: want me to drop it. You don't want this to
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: be a storyline, but you're asking me questions about it.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: So watching the season back, it was very hard to
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: watch because I was disappointed in myself because I was like, Nah,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: that's that's not the person you want to be, Like
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: you don't want to be the person that's harshly passional
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: judgment on someone's life. You don't know what their story.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: You don't know what they've walked people don't know what
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: you've walked through.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: But then I watched it more and I'm like, wait,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: I started talking about episode one and two from three
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: to ten, y'all came to me with it, and I
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: would just respond you wanted me to be quiet, But
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: you're asking me a question about it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: If you're forming and building this relationship and you know
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: it's something that's very uncomfortable for it, don't be asked
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: me questions because I'm also paid to talk just like you.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: What does Cassandra know, Barbrie that she keeps running from
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: scene to scene, running away, taking up from microphone? What
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: does Cassandra know the road of the street is?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Were they a part of some other agency that doesn't
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: sell real estate? Listen, that doesn't sell real estate, but
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: they may sell something else.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: So I can't speak for that, to be honest with you,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: like I can only speak for what I know about Cassandra.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: That was wild, this whole thing, like it's everybody's so confused.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: It was so wild, Like truthfully, it was so wild.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: And again another decision where I'm like, Chelsea, you dumb
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: fucking bitch. I'm sorry to use profanity. I was like,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: you dumb fucking bit. Could you not see through that shit?
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm missus friendly. You saw me today for the
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: first time. That's I'm an aquarius, you.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Know, I'm air.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: I just I just exist in spaces, and I'm like water.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I love to have a good time. I love people.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: So I assume when I meet Cassandra and she's speaking
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: to everybody, I'm like, oh.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: This is the new girl that's going to be joining
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: the O group.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: She's pretty, she seems smart, she seems welcoming in like
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: kind of very complimentary of me, all right, So I
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: was really excited. I was genuinely like excited. Then when
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I heard, like the first thing I heard was herself
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: and Brie knew each other, like they knew each other,
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: but they didn't have any beef. There was no beef,
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: but they knew each other. And Brie wasn't being so
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: welcoming or nice to her at the in car. But
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: at the first brokers open that we were all at,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, she's.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Not a friendly us bitch. I was like, you don't
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: have to tell me, I've seen it. I mean, she
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: ain't nice.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: That's my that was my vibe. People were reading so
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: deep into it. But I was kind of like, she
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: told you herself, she's not a nice bitch. I'm just
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: reiterating what she said and conferring with somebody that's told
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: me that she gave them the same energy.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: It was like bet So.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Then as it went on and I could see there
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: was actually a rift between them, I was like, Okay.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I was like, it can't be that deep. Because it
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: was that deep, everyone would know about.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: It because.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: She's had to be on a process where you've signed
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: off like paperwork to be here into film, right, it
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: can't be that serious. So knowing in my mind knowing that, Okay,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: she's probably gonna be on the show, we're going to dinner,
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: come along, Like it's not that deep because she's also
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: telling me like there's no beef.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: There's no beef. So I'm like, come along, come along.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Bree may not be friendly when you first meet her,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: but give her a little bit tequila. She's gonna be
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: so so sweet because I've seen her. She's really she
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: can be really bubbly and friendly, like I like that.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: But I love that side of her, and the more
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: I get to know her, the more I see it
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: instantly when I first meet her, so I'm like, come
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: on over. So it wasn't until Carbo when Cassandra mentioned
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: something about, well, if you were nice, you would have
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: a ring, and I said, I said.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: There's definitely something more here. There's definitely something more.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Carbo ends kind of two. Finale was just like days.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: We're at the finale. Bearing in mind, guys, everyone wants
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: to say, Chelsea, you invite Cassandra everywhere, please, I beg
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: that's not the case. Okay, Jason invited her to the penthouse,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: not the Penthouse, the finale brokerage open party, and.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: She doesn't know many people there. She knows me, and
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I'm just like okay.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: I also not to say I forgot about the drama
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: that happened in Carbo, but it wasn't really Jarma. It
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: was more so Cassandra saying to me, Bree's not the
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: friendliest person. I was like, okay, bet she's not, but
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: that's not the craziest thing in the world. No, you
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: just met her same way. I was getting to know her.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: It wasn't a major dig It's just like she's kind
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: of bitchy. I was like, I meet people that kind
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: of bitchy every single day.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Moving on, you know.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: So we get to the finale party and I see Cassandra.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: I bring her over to the girls and I'm like, okay,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: bring her. I'm like, okay, guys, can we just like
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: squash this? Like like what none of you have actually
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: told me if there's actually any beef. Both of you
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: kind of like you kind of knew each other, you
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: don't really know each other. But Caussant just kind of
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: coming on strong and Breeze kind of like leaping alone,
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: like just get out of my space. And I'm kind
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: of like, well.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: She's gonna be here because she may be on the show,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: so like maybe we should just kumbaya.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: And then I'm sitting down and I'm like, what what's
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: going on?
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Why are they screaming at each other?
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: It was so loud in the place, and obviously when Mike,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: but I'm like, what are they even saying? Like I
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: literally you saw me in the cup. I was sipping
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: my drink, so I was just like, the fuck, cool.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Just don't direct it to me.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: So that that was the first time I realized there
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: was more to the story.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: It was only after that I called Bri.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: And you know, me and Brie, we weren't entirely on
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: the same page or friends per se. But I was
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: so confused that I had to call her and say,
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: what's going on?
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: What's what's what happened? Like what have I missed out on?
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Because I know I'm going to receive a lot of
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: brunt for the fact that I keep bringing her around.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: But I had no idea that it was this deep,
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: and no one told me, and Cassandra told me there
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: was no beef.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: There was nothing there. So like, I'm genuinely confused.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: And I also maybe thought that, like bribing her natural
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: demeanor and persona not being so friendly off the bat,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: you kind of have to get warm up to get
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: to know her. I was just like, she's just being herself.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Once she gets to know that you actually are a
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: nice person. If you are actually a nice person, it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: going to be water under the bridge.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Did she ever tell you what the is? She was, Bri?
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Not really. She just told me, like that bitch.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: There's something deep going on, and we're gonna move on
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: because only got to go in a second. But a
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: part of me felt like, is Bree dangling this carrot
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: of whether or not she's going to continue the show
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: or stay on the show, I mean, or leave the
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: show has to deal with whether or not Consigndra would
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: be a cast member.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean Brie.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Brie is a hustler. She seems very street smart and
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: business smart. Selling sunsets a massive opportunity. I don't know
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: many people that will willingly leave selling sunset because it
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: helps our business real estate a lot. So I think
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: she's going to figure out what works best for her.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: And her family and her businesses, don't.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think she'd allow someone else to take her
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: off her game.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Good. We love you, Brie.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Stay on this show because I'm want you and Chelsea
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: to be the sharing Dion of the show. I love
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I loved two bad bitches. I just love it bon gorgeous.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I love her like stay on the show, Breed. It
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: ain't that deep. I love you, okay, really quickly. When
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: you're in these white spaces, is it hard for you
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: to be in the in these worlds holding it down
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: as the black girl in these white spaces on the show?
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Very much?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very much? That I've struggled a lot. Often don't
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: feel heard or seen. I feel like when I am heard,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: I'm misheard. And I feel like a lot of my
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: mannerisms and my natural dialect, my natural personality and personas
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: always misconstrued, and my intentions are always so pure, like
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm very much a lover. I have no
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: malice in my home for anyone in this world, and
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: I will forgive anyone we can have, we can argue,
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: we can argue right now, and I'll love you again
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: in twenty minutes.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: It's just my personality. I'm very direct and very blunt.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: It could be that British, you know, people say British
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: people have this charm where they just kind of have
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: verbal diary and say what's in their mind. But I
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: struggle so much because I'm trying to be my authentic
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: self and there are undertones of like Chelsea's aggressive, or
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Chelsea's a bully, or Chelsea's mean, and I'm like, never
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: in my life, up until coming a.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Reality TV, I haven't ever heard that. I'm sorry. It
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: makes me so sad.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: It makes me so sad, especially from sometimes from the girls,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: because my closest friends on the show are Krishelle and Emma,
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: and they've leaned in and really gotten to know me,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: and they love me so much, and I love them
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: so much. And we really support each and ride for
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: each other, and we know our personality types. But never
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: in my life I have ever been called a bully
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: or mean or aggressive. So when I hear some of that,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: or I hear undertones of it from some of the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: other girls, and I'm just like, you've.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Never really given me a chance. Everyone.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: It's like, if I say something, I'm aggressive or a mean.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Or I came for this person.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: If someone says the exact same thing, she's just giving
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: their her opinion.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Like a man's who's black.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: But she's a biracial, light skinned black woman. So when
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: she sends Chrishelle a very I'll say it an aggressive
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: video message. They make amends in thirty seconds and then
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: they move on.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: But I would have been annihilated. I wouldn't be able
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: to continue. But I don't move like that. I also
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: don't move like that because I don't have I don't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: have the space to move like that.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I don't have.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: The ability to move in that way. And that's why
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: I try to keep it as one hundred. But I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: also try to watch my tone, So I try to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: watch my body language. I'm very cognizant of things that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: I never was cognizant of before. So now when I'm filming,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I often find myself like sitting there and being like
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: because I understand that when I'm not smiling, I look
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: mean or I may look angry. I pick up on things,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: and I don't want that to be a I don't
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: want that to be a trope for black women in
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: real estate or black women anywhere. I really want to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: do my best to represent in the best way possible.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: So I know that I'm not just doing this for Chelsea.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: I'm doing this for anyone that wants to be in
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: real estate, or anyone that looks like me, or anyone
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: that's inspired to crush it at anything.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: So I try to.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Make sure that I show other sides of my personality too.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: When you see me being bubbly and stuff like that,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: it's not I am that person, But I'm trying to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: show you that we are all multifaceted.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: We don't fit into one box, you know.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: And same way they see me stern in one moment,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: I'm so soft and gentle in another So give me
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: space and give me grace for that, like you do
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: everybody else. But I think in the industry, we are
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: so used to seeing black women having to fight for themselves.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: So you're so used to seeing black.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: Women stern and strong, and I want to show myself
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: soft and gentle because I am soft and gentle.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: No you are, And listen, this interview has been able
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: to do that. It really has, And I wanted to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: make sure that you and I had on one on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: one and listen, this means the world to me that
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: you did say yes. You did say yes, because not
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: everybody wants to do a podcast because of you know,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: there's either this preconceived notion like you said, it's quick,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: and it's like because some podcasts those shaped to my industry,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: some podcasts are a little weird to where it's like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: it's a setup and they don't really know you, and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: they actually weird questions and you're like, this is a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: weird experience. While am I here and I create a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: reality with the King to be a safe space for
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: people to get to know the real you.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And as a huge fan.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Of yours, I wanted to make sure that you have
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: the floor so that people under knew. I'm sorry that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: people understood and saw the person behind the personality, and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: you displayed that in this interview today, and I thank
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: you so much for doing that.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: You made me cry.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I cry, but I want you to know.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: I want you to know that, and I hope you
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: I hope you know that this was the intention of
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: this and you you rocked it, and you keep you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: keep wearing them platform hills, making us proud when we
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: say Chelsea, when we say Chelsea as we're watching the TV, like, bitch, give.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: These I'm about to be all wrapped. Give these girls,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: you know, fever bitch, and do it with a smile.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: And you're funny and you're bubbly. You make us laugh.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: My last question is what's next for you?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Baby? What do you have going on? Because this is
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: not the end of you, baby, You're just getting started.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: I'm just getting started.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: So I'm exploring my one of my earlier passions in life,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: which is cooking.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: I love to cook.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I've been cooking for a very long time, so I've
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: been honing on some cooking content and maybe there'll be
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: something else that follows cooking in the future. But I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: just love being from the camera. I would love getting
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: into like mentoring. I just I really want to connect
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: with my ten year old self because there are so
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: many of my ten year old selves out there that
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: watch me, and I want to connect more with young
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: women just like I was and just enjoy life and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: watch my kids grow and take care of my family
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: and just be blessed. Continue to be blessed.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: And continue to get that else, commit and them sales
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: and bring the motherfuck bell ring ray.
• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:11
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