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Turning the Page To 2023 With Keira D'Amato, Pro Runner · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: It gets hard right before you level up. I guess,
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  Speaker 1: so those days that are the hardest, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: thank you that much closer. You're playing the boss that level,
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  Speaker 1: and you're about once you beat that boss, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to get to the next levels.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Everyone?
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  Speaker 3: Emily Abadi here welcoming you back to a new year,
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  Speaker 3: season twelve of Hurdle, kicking things off with the annual
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  Speaker 3: Turning the Page series. Now, if you happen to be
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  Speaker 3: new to the show, welcome. Let me give you a
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  Speaker 3: little background on Hurdle before I introduce.
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  Speaker 2: You to all things Turning the Page.
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  Speaker 3: Hurdle is a wellness focused podcast where I, Emily a Body,
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  Speaker 3: a veteran.
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  Speaker 2: Journalist and wellness coach.
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  Speaker 3: Connect with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts
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  Speaker 3: and industry CEOs about their highest hies, toughest moments, and
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  Speaker 3: everything in between. We all go through hurdles in life,
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  Speaker 3: and my goal through these discussions is to empower you
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  Speaker 3: to better navigate yours and move with intention so that
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  Speaker 3: you can stride towards your own big potential and of
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  Speaker 3: course have some fun along the way.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot believe, I actually I can.
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  Speaker 3: You know what a lot of work has happened over
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  Speaker 3: the last five years. We are celebrating this week the
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  Speaker 3: fifth anniversary, the fifth birthday of Hurdle. She is no
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  Speaker 3: longer a toddler. She's a full blown child now and
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  Speaker 3: what better way to do that than with five days
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  Speaker 3: of episodes.
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  Speaker 2: For Turning the Page.
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  Speaker 3: Turning the Page as a series that happens at the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of every year, and for it, I sit down
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  Speaker 3: with some of your favorite guests from the past year
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  Speaker 3: to chat about what lessons they are bringing with them
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  Speaker 3: from twenty twenty two into the new year. Each guest
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  Speaker 3: gives us highlights from their past through sixty five, offers
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  Speaker 3: up a word that they're focusing on for the next
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  Speaker 3: three sixty five, and then offers up advice on how
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  Speaker 3: to move into the next fifty two weeks with grace
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  Speaker 3: and a positive outlook. For today's episode, I am kicking
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  Speaker 3: things off with the one, the Only, Kira Dematto. She's
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  Speaker 3: a pro runner, once the American record holder in the marathon,
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  Speaker 3: and all around truly just an outstanding human.
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  Speaker 2: I love being able to catch up with Kira.
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  Speaker 3: The perfect way for us to really have a few
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  Speaker 3: laughs as we get.
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  Speaker 2: Into the swing of things. With twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: Make sure, if you're not doing so yet, you are
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  Speaker 3: following along with Hurdle over on social media.
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  Speaker 2: It's at Hurdle podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I am at Emily, a Body and the last little
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  Speaker 2: I wanted you here on Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 2: That's it for now. Oh with that, let's get things started.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to hurdling today.
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  Speaker 3: I am sitting back down with my friend at Kira
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  Speaker 3: de motto.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 1: I am, I'm doing awesome mentally physically. I have a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of like a scraggly throat, so but I
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  Speaker 1: actually never mind getting to scraggly. Is it scraggly? Is
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  Speaker 1: that scratchy? Scratchy? Maybe scratchy is what I'm looking for,
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  Speaker 1: But I never mind getting scratchy throat because it always
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  Speaker 1: takes my like voice down a little bit, a little
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  Speaker 1: less squeaky, So I'm feeling a little more radio DJ,
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  Speaker 1: which is like perfect for podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Perfect So you and I can be like this together
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  Speaker 3: because I'm constantly on this wave.
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  Speaker 1: But yours is like yours is sexy. We've talked about
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  Speaker 1: this in the first time. Yours is like incredible. Mine's
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  Speaker 1: just like a little not as incredible.
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  Speaker 3: But well, I think it's fantastic, and I think you're fantastic,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm so excited to have you as a part
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  Speaker 3: of the Turning the Page series this year. I told
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  Speaker 3: you that you were one of the most listened to
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  Speaker 3: guests from the past three sixty five and I was
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  Speaker 3: surprised that you were surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe when you said that. When you asked
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  Speaker 1: me back on, I was like, wait, so hold on,
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  Speaker 1: what you are like I didn't ruin it the first time.
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  Speaker 1: And then you said I was one of the most
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  Speaker 1: watched or listened or whatever, and that, yeah, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of I don't know, it feels like a joke, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm here though.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm so happy that you're here, even with
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  Speaker 3: your scraggly, scratchy voice. And a great person to kick
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  Speaker 3: start this series with, because you've had one hell of
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  Speaker 3: a year. The series coming out the first week of
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  Speaker 3: the new year, but in twenty twenty two, a lot
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  Speaker 3: happened for you.
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  Speaker 1: I went for it, man, I just important twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: I just followed goals that excited me. I probably overextended
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  Speaker 1: myself a little bit at the end, but I would
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  Speaker 1: do it again exactly the same way. I don't regret anything.
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  Speaker 1: It was a good year.
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  Speaker 3: I love to hear that, so I mean, of course,
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  Speaker 3: the first thing that we need to recap here is
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  Speaker 3: that you became the American record holder for the marathon
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  Speaker 3: at the very beginning of twenty twenty two. Looking back
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  Speaker 3: on that experience, do you have any immediate highlights from
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  Speaker 3: that day aside from breaking the tape.
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  Speaker 1: I think the thing that keeps replaying in my mind
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  Speaker 1: is I broke the tape and my first thought was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm never running again.
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  Speaker 2: Ever.
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  Speaker 1: That was really hard. But then my second thought was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so proud I had the courage to start, because
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  Speaker 1: like there were so many different times, like in my
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  Speaker 1: second round running journey, where it was really hard and
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't know if I could push through, or
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't even know if I could start. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like the first day when I went for a run,
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  Speaker 1: I tried to run three minutes and I couldn't make
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  Speaker 1: it the whole three minutes. I only made it ninety seconds,
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  Speaker 1: and like I could have quit then, you know, So
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  Speaker 1: just thinking that, like I was just so happy that
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  Speaker 1: I found the courage to figure out the what if,
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  Speaker 1: and the what if turns out was a really beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's the thing that like I just
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  Speaker 1: think the most is I just feel just kind of lucky.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that I kept finding like a reason to
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  Speaker 1: show up and keep going and it turned into something
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  Speaker 1: really beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: And what a beautiful takeaway for so many hearing that you,
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  Speaker 3: the woman who ultimately became the American record holder in
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  Speaker 3: the marathon, had trouble running for three minutes at a
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  Speaker 3: time applicable way beyond running, right, just this idea that
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  Speaker 3: if we can break it up into little doables, then
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  Speaker 3: who knows what can happen next?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's like if you would have told me
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  Speaker 1: on that day, like Kira, like in six years or
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  Speaker 1: whenever it was, Yeah, yeah, about six years from now,
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  Speaker 1: you'd set the American record, like today's day one of
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  Speaker 1: training for that, I wouldn't have started. I would have
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  Speaker 1: like thrown my shoes at whoever said that and just
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  Speaker 1: walked away because I'm like, no, there's no way. It
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  Speaker 1: just was so intimidating. So for me, like setting those
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  Speaker 1: small manageable goals and if you hit it, then great,
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  Speaker 1: but if you don't, then keep trying to hit it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then once hitting it, just think, wow,
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  Speaker 1: if I could do that, if I could run for
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  Speaker 1: a whole three minutes, like what else is there? Could
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  Speaker 1: I do five minutes?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And it's just like it's snowballed from there. But it's
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  Speaker 1: just like just knowing. I don't know, like in a way,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels like some like fairytale story that I
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  Speaker 1: was living, you know, and I was through all the
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  Speaker 1: ups and downs. But that's kind of how I feel
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  Speaker 1: like thinking about where I started to where like I
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  Speaker 1: ended up this year is just a kind of a
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  Speaker 1: cool thing to live for sure.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, And you speak on the greatness of setting
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  Speaker 3: those small achievable goals, do you remember, aside from getting
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  Speaker 3: through those three minutes, maybe a year or two into
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  Speaker 3: this journey of picking back up with running.
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  Speaker 2: What some of those smaller goals looked like. For example, Yeah, So.
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  Speaker 1: Like for me, after I had my second child and
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  Speaker 1: then I knew we were done with having kids, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's my body again. Because for a
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  Speaker 1: while I just felt like I was this like machine
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  Speaker 1: in a way, and I didn't feel like it was mine,
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  Speaker 1: Like I was doing whatever I thought was best for
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  Speaker 1: you know, being pregnant or nursing or whatever. So I
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  Speaker 1: finally like had control back and that was kind of exciting.
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  Speaker 1: So starting with like three minutes, and then the goals
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  Speaker 1: like just kept changing. So once I'd hit that would
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  Speaker 1: be five minutes, and then if it was I could
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  Speaker 1: run for ten minutes with only one walk break, and
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  Speaker 1: they kept building up from there. But what I did
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  Speaker 1: is I like also had like little carrots. So whatever
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  Speaker 1: I hit my goal, like I would celebrate like I
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  Speaker 1: won the Olympics, Like I remember the day where I
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  Speaker 1: did run three minutes, like I seriously like finished that run,
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  Speaker 1: like I finished my marathons, like double deuce is in
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  Speaker 1: the air, like celebrating like crazy, you know. So I
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  Speaker 1: think setting those small measurable roles, But then like celebrating
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  Speaker 1: in a way, you know, just even if it's just
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  Speaker 1: like a pat on the back or like, can you
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  Speaker 1: do like a SELFI five? Maybe maybe I need to
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  Speaker 1: start doing.
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  Speaker 2: That like thing that's called a clap.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow, I never really thought about that SELFI
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  Speaker 1: five is a clap?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? I well, just clapping for yourself, then I guess.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm dead. I'm dead.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it clapping anymore. I'm just gonna call.
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  Speaker 2: It high vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can give myself a lot of
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  Speaker 1: high fives with cheering for you.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect. Yes, I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I love that takeaway of just making sure that you're
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  Speaker 3: celebrating all the wins as they come, no matter how
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  Speaker 3: small or her bit how big they are. And I
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  Speaker 3: also love this picture of you celebrating the finish of
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  Speaker 3: every single marathon you run. I feel like there have
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  Speaker 3: been like some gifts as of recent and maybe you
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  Speaker 3: can speak to these, but the ones that are like
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  Speaker 3: I want to celebrate anything in my life the way
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  Speaker 3: that Kira Dematto celebrates finishing every single marathon.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's so funny because I did one marathon in
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  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. My goal was to qualify for Boston, but
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  Speaker 1: I really thought it was in like three twenty shape.
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  Speaker 1: But it went very poorly and I ran three forty
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  Speaker 1: nine forty nine, So I didn't qualify for Boston, and
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  Speaker 1: I walked a lot. And so now jump forward to
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  Speaker 1: round two, and I've told everyone celebrate no matter what
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  Speaker 1: your goal is, if you hit your goal, you celebrate
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  Speaker 1: when you cross any finish line. And after I broke
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  Speaker 1: the American record, the Missoula Montana said, hey, and we
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  Speaker 1: have a video of Kira celebrating her first marathon. And
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  Speaker 1: my heart at first sank because I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I've been telling everyone to celebrate whether you hit it
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  Speaker 1: or not. And I'm like, oh my gosh, Like what
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  Speaker 1: if I didn't celebrate that one would I be like
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  Speaker 1: a fraud? So I opened the link and like, that
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  Speaker 1: was the toughest race I've ever done, Like I thought
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  Speaker 1: about quinning so many times. I didn't think I was
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  Speaker 1: going to make it the finish line. Like my husband
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  Speaker 1: and I both wanted to qualify for Boston to run
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  Speaker 1: Boston together. So I felt like I was. I know
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't, but I felt like I was letting him down.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I was letting myself down. But I
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  Speaker 1: still finished that, and so I washed it back and
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  Speaker 1: I celebrated, like just like I celebrated when I broke
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  Speaker 1: the American record. I held up the two deuces and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I am happy. I've been
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  Speaker 1: myself my whole life, and I'm not. But for a second,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, am I fraud? But no,
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  Speaker 1: when I celebrated the same exact way.
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  Speaker 3: Wishing everyone else to celebrate is a good thing to
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  Speaker 3: be a fraud about if you've got a fraud on anything.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, like we said here huge beginning to the year.
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  Speaker 3: Did that major accomplishment really shake things up? Did it
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  Speaker 3: make you feel some kind of way? Did it change
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  Speaker 3: what you had on deck?
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  Speaker 1: I think it just a little more attention, Like nothing
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  Speaker 1: really changed, Like my routine at my house stayed the same,
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  Speaker 1: Like my goals for the future stayed the same. Like
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  Speaker 1: that was kind of, you know, just a checkpoint along
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  Speaker 1: the way. So I was dreaming still even past hitting that,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, my direction and how you know, what
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  Speaker 1: I'm aiming towards still stay the same. But I just
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  Speaker 1: get a little more attention now, Like one time I
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  Speaker 1: was at the grocery store and I dropped something and
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  Speaker 1: some woman ran up. She's like, oh, Kira, here, I'll
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  Speaker 1: pick that up. And she was the sweetest woman, but
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  Speaker 1: she knew who I was and also how long was
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  Speaker 1: she watching me to notice that I dropped something?
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  Speaker 2: But she was the sweetest woman.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just stuff like that which is awesome. And
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  Speaker 1: I love being able to connect with other people through
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  Speaker 1: that way. So really, like it's just it feels like
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  Speaker 1: a big gift.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big gift.
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  Speaker 3: I would imagine that from the get go being recognized was.
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  Speaker 2: A little crazy. Do you have another story to share
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  Speaker 2: about that?
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  Speaker 1: I remember like one of the first times I got recognized.
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  Speaker 1: I was like this was at Houston actually when I
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  Speaker 1: set the American Records. So I was like hey, Kira,
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  Speaker 1: and I like turn around and she's like no you
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like me and she's like, yeah, you can
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  Speaker 1: I get a picture with you? And I was like whoa, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's do this. This is awesome. But I also think
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. It's like can I like, do you mind
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  Speaker 1: if I bother you for a picture? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: do you realize how good you're making? Me feel about myself,
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  Speaker 1: like you want to get a picture with me, Why
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  Speaker 1: would you apologize for that? I feel like it's such
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  Speaker 1: a compliment.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So now when we look at the past year
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  Speaker 3: as a whole, if you had to maybe articulate two
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  Speaker 3: to three of the biggest lessons you're taking with you
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  Speaker 3: into twenty twenty three, where do we begin?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I think, like my superhero power that I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I really owned this year is like it's okay
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  Speaker 1: to fail, Like failing is really not that bad, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like earlier in my career I was
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  Speaker 1: so afraid, like the fear of failure almost like is
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  Speaker 1: crippling that you don't even want to start. But like
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  Speaker 1: this year, I'm like, well, I'm going to go for
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  Speaker 1: this and if I get it, great, and if I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I learn something. So I think like this year, I've
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  Speaker 1: done some different distance races. I've you know, you know
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  Speaker 1: when I ran at World Champs that was only seventeen days.
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  Speaker 1: Notice that you know that probably was going to be
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  Speaker 1: a failure, which it ended up going like decent, So
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  Speaker 1: I was happy with that. But you know, I took
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  Speaker 1: risks this year and I went for it, and so
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  Speaker 1: I'm really like proud of that, and whether it went well,
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  Speaker 1: I hit my goal or not, you know, I learned
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  Speaker 1: something and you move on. So I think that's like
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  Speaker 1: my biggest thing this year, and I feel like that
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  Speaker 1: might be my superhero powers. I'm just not afraid to fail.
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  Speaker 3: We know that we can learn from our quote unquote failures.
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  Speaker 3: But what would you say your biggest one was last year?
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  Speaker 1: I think for me, my biggest failure this year was
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  Speaker 1: at Berlin. Like I really I knew I was in shape,
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  Speaker 1: I was faster, Berlin Kira was more fit than Houston
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  Speaker 1: Kira when I set the American record, So I was
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  Speaker 1: so fit, training was going great, I was healthy, and
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  Speaker 1: it was an off day. I think there was like
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  Speaker 1: a few things that I can contribute to that, but
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  Speaker 1: I really like fell short of a big goal that day,
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  Speaker 1: but I learned a lot and so I think I'll
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  Speaker 1: be stronger for it. I think it caused me to
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  Speaker 1: really look at my race nutrition and I've structured now
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  Speaker 1: a better plan that I think is actually going to
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  Speaker 1: be a whole lot better. And I think it was
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason. I think my body was changing what
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  Speaker 1: worked for me last year wasn't working for me this year,
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  Speaker 1: so I think that really caused me to not reinvent
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  Speaker 1: the wheel, but restructure things. So I think that was
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  Speaker 1: a really important lesson that I took from that.
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  Speaker 3: Let's flesh out what the learnings were from that day
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  Speaker 3: in particular.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the first thing was like it was
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  Speaker 1: just an off day, Like I was on my period
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  Speaker 1: and I was feeling off. So that's, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you can't that just sucks when that a lot, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when yeah, you're feeling bad on a day that you
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  Speaker 1: need to be feeling good is not awesome. I think
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  Speaker 1: that my race strategy wasn't that great. I had brought
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  Speaker 1: I kind of was under the impression that I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have too many people women to run with, so I
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  Speaker 1: brought my own pacers, and within five k of the race,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I think I was maybe in twentieth place. There was
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: tons of women that went out really fast, but I
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: was so focused on my individual race that day that
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't ever race them. So I think that that
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: in that moment, I should have thought, Okay, well maybe
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I can instruct the pacers or we can all go
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: and race people. But it just I feel like what
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I'd done so great in twenty twenty two was race,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Like I'd go in and just work on racing tactics
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: and I just race people. I didn't have my own
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: time goal other than just trying to win races, so
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and I didn't do that in Berlin. So that was
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: kind of like my one regret during the race is
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I should have just raced, and kind of I think
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: somewhere around twenty miles I got a cramp, and I
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: think that was a couple different things. I'm not sure if,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: like the Berlin water is made up a little differently,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: they have more calcium levels, so I think when mixing
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: that with my sports strength, maybe that was giving me
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a cramp or could have just spen that I was
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: on my period, you know, so something nutrition wise wasn't
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: going quite right. But but I learned, you know, and
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you know I won't I won't do that again.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Won't let it happen again.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, you did the best you could with what
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: you had, right, And I feel as though this is
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: an example of this lesson of being okay to fail
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: right and knowing that, as you said, that failure has
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to teach us something each and every time.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think also, like in used in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: during that race, I was hitting my goals and that's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: really exciting. You know, when you're on your way to
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: your goal or doing your best ever, there's a lot
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: of adrill adriddline and you're feeling really positive and you're
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: excited you're still on your way. But when things take
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: a turn for the worst, like in a race, it's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: a lot harder to stay motivated and stay like with it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I am proud of at
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Berlin is that I never stopped fighting, you know, Like
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I did all I can to get the cramp go away,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and once it did, I start, you know, I fought
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: again and passed a lot of people in the end.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But that's one thing like my takeaways, like, you know what,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I never surrendered, Like even though my goals were slipping
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: out of reach of being on a podium or running
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: my fastest time, like, I still fought through it and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I did the best I could that day. So awkaway
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: proud knowing that I really did lay it all out
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: there that day.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: You keep referencing, like the goals that you have, would
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: you be willing to talk a little bit about what
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: some of those consist of these days.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I thought I was in sub to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: eighteen marathon shape that day, and I've never podiumed at
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: like a world marathon major, and I wanted to do
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: that too, So those were kind of my two big
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: goals going into Berlin.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Makes sense, makes sense?
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, So aside from a quote unquote failing at Berlin,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: you mentioned going for it all of twenty twenty two.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: What's another instance of you going for it this past year?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I think I lined up to race fourteen times, and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: don't I don't think there's another like pro runner that
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: raced that many. Maybe maybe some sprinters, especially with all
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: their heats. But like it was, I think a total
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of one hundred and eighty like racing miles, which for
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: an ultra marathon or I guess isn't that much, but
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: for someone that does a lot, you know, I did
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: some five k's and six I did a six k
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and ten ks, and that's a lot. So it was
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: cool in that way that I pretty much every other
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: weekend or every third week, I was traveling somewhere to race.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And when I look back on yeah, twenty twenty two like,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it just turned thirty eight and I'm a and I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just had like my best race senior ever. So I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: really put myself out there. I went into races that
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: really excited me. I had did a lot of bucket
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: lace lists, races that I'd always wanted to run, like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the Foulmouth Race. That was a really cool one to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: be a part of, and so yeah, kind of just
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: one for it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: What do you think that your most difficult moment was
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: last year?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Probably I did the New York Marathon and it was
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: definitely in that race and coming back. So I ran
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: World Champs and then I think I had maybe nine
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: or ten weeks and then I did Berlin and then
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I did New York six weeks later, and we knew
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that could go either way. Like we felt we wanted
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to race New York because it was actually kind of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: always our plan in the spring, but especially with Berlin
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: kind of being a little bit subpar, We're like, okay,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: well we're so fit, we just haven't shown our fitness yet.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So we were really excited about New York. But I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: think my body was really tired going into that because
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a couple slead into the race. I just couldn't stay healthy,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and I got a throat infection and I had like
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: some sort of flu thing. So I think my body
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: was just done, and so we were kind of getting
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that feedback that I was probably pushing it a little
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: bit too hard. But but I went forward anyways, and
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I showed up healthy, like I was over everything by
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the time that I got to the starting line. So
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I felt really healthy on race day, but somewhere around
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: thirteen to sixteen, I was like, oh no, this is
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: not good, Like I think New York's of course you
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: really want to be fresh for and I wasn't fresh,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and I feel like I was kind of just pulling
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it together. But so that was a hard one because
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: in my head, I was like what do I do here?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Do I quit or do I finish? You know, like
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: this is really not going very well. My quads were
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: on fire, like I just felt like I couldn't get
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: into a good rhythm, like but it was also just
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: like you know, hitting the marathon wall, I guess, but
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm gonna just keep running until I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: can't run anymore, you know. And I made it to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the finish line, and I was really proud that I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: did because also it was my son's eighth birthday, so
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to like quit on his birthday, you know. So,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, that was that was a tough one
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: because like when you're in a race, being like should
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I even finish that? That's a dark space to be in,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you know what. I'm proud I.
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  Speaker 3: about the running lessons, kind of transcending to the rest
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: of life, right this space of asking yourself what do
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I do when things get hard and having the grit
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: and perseverance to keep on keeping on.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: That was a hard day, Like no matter how you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: slice it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I think I read yesterday that that was actually the
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: hottest New York City marathon on records. So to show
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: up that day and do what you did regardless, like what, like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: kudos to you, you know, mm.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Hmm, I don't know. It's just you just don't quit,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I knew I wasn't going to hit
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: my a gole or beagle or seagull, but the but
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: when all those like flew out the window, it's like,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm healthy, Like I hurts a lot, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I can finish, you know. So I'm proud that I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was able to pull something out to just keep going.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: But what do you tell the person who does get
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: to a point where they realize that they do need
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: to quit, Like that choice becomes one that is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Not theirs to make.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's made for them by in the case of
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: running your body or just other extenuating circumstances.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: How does someone navigate because we don't.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Try to fail, right, We try with a certain goal
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: in mind, and sometimes we have to deviate from the plan.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's tough too, especially when you
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: feel like that choice isn't yours, you know. But there
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: are times like whenever, like in a race, there are
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: so many times I want to quit, but I ask myself,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: like can I keep going? Like is this is this physical?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Like is this like above me? And if it's something
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt myself more or cause my body harm
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: or you know, from heat or from hypothermia, or if
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: like something hurts that you know is like not right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's okay to be sore and it's pay for
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: your legs to feel heavy. That's normal to work through.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: But when something's not right, it's just it's just not safe,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: you know. So but it's it's tough to like think
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: through that in the in the moment and figure it out.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's just like there's just sometimes it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: not your day, you know, And sometimes it's smarter actually
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: to you know, to listen to your body or to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: people around you and not push it through because you'll
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: have another day to fight, you know. But yeah, it's uh,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it gets hard right before you level up.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I guess. So those days that are the hardest, you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: just think you're that much closer. You're playing the boss
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that level, and you'rre about once you beat that boss,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get to the next level.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: So we love a level up. We love a level up.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: What would you say is a word that you are
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: bringing with you into twenty twenty three?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Oh man, this is so funny that you asked this
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: because over so, my son Tommy, who's eight years old,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: he's been really into making his own like March Madness brackets,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: but sometimes he does it with like animals or like
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: letters or like you wonder where he gets it from.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's from all our Oreo Madness challenge.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I was literally just gonna say he gets it from you.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he gets it honestly. So over Thanksgiving he
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: decided that he was going to do like a word madness.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So he put one hundred and twenty eight words into
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this like tournament style, and so at the Thanksgiving table,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I like brought up. I was like, hey, you know, everyone,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Thomas has been doing like a March Madness just with
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: like words, and so everyone got curious and so he
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: read the top sixteen. So everyone at the family picked
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: their word and we went through this like to see
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: what it was. But the word that I picked was buzzsaw,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: So of.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Course, of course you did.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna use that one. I think I'm
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: going to use that one. But it was really funny
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: because like someone picked music, someone picked Oh, there was
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like quagmire was one of the words. Mom was a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: word universe, so it was like a really big wide range,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: like some sort of crocodile I'd never heard of, like
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a big name for a crocodile. Was so but it
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: was really funny. But buzzsaw actually was number two. The
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: winning word was imagination, which they loved that. Yeah, that
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: was a really good one.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: So, uh, what does what does buzzsaw mean to you?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Kira?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Just like taking your goals and going for it, you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: like don't let anything stand in your path, just like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a buzzsaw, you just cut right through and like you
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: get to where you need to go, you know. So
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it's you know, don't let anything stand in your way,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: just go right on through and reach your goals.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: When you think about the past three sixty five, Who
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: would you say was one of the individuals that you
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: were most grateful for their presence over this year.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I think if I want to continue sharing a bed
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: with this person, I think I'm gonna have to say
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: my husband. All series though, he is like he's my rock,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you know, he keeps it really fun. He knows me
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: better than anyone in this world, and he can just
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: tell like what I need and with like running, like
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I need it to be really fun, Like I need
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it to be my fun thing. So he keeps it
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: light and he comes to, you know, all the races
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that he can, and he's super busy too, but he's
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: definitely been my number one supporter. And he has a
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: big like water bottle that he wrote super Fan on
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it because he's just he's a super fan and it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: kind of fun just to have, you know, someone support
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you in that way. So that's I feel really lucky
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: For some reason, I'm like in my head thinking about
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the people that like might struggle with answering that question,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: and like, how beautiful is it that you have like
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: such a special and compassionate partner for anyone who may
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: be approaching twenty twenty three and maybe navigating being at
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: like the crux of a relationship, or just kind of
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: struggling to find their footing in some way.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Could you offer a tip about showing up for yourself
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: during some of your hard times.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that is so spun on because like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I found running when it was for myself. Like he's
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: he's now like a super super fan, But like when
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I he was deployed for a really long time when
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: my kids were zero in one, so he was gone
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: for by the time my daughter was two, he was
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: gone for over a year. So like I put running
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: in my life at that time because I needed some
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: thing to make me feel good about myself. And when
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he came back, it was kind of uncomfortable, honestly, because
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I had put running in my life for me and
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I needed to figure out a way to make it
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: like a Wii for the family. But I think it's
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: okay to do something for yourself and feel good about
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: yourself and then find a community around that and make
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: sure it's people that are going to be building you up.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: But it's you know, running is easy because I feel
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: like joining a running group or getting a coach, or
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: just finding that support system in that way, like maybe
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a family member, like none of my
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: My mom is like my biggest cheerleader, but no one
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: in my family run. No one knew anything about that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: So I formed that support group like outside with friends
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: or with running buddies or with coaches. So I think,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like finding that person for you, like I feel very
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: fortunate that I share a bed with that person, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that person. I think you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: can find that community around you wherever you are.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this makes me think about the joyless
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: so that I've like rest referenced on the show so
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: many times, and not to say that like when I
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: have gone through things in my personal life, really emotional
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: moments that I've always been able to like look at
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: my joy list and be like, I'm depressed. But if
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I go outside and read a book right now in
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: the sunshine, like I'm going to feel great. Like that
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't always work, but at the very least, like having
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: a list of things that you know have in the
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: past brought you a sense of contentment and fulfillment and
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: joy can be a step in the right direction to
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: shifting your perspective or your mood on a given day
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: where things feel especially hard.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's when you need it the most.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to run every single day,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: but it's on those days that I force myself and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I get myself at the door. Then I'm most proud
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that I did it because I knew how hard it
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: was and it was really interesting. I had a conversation
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: recently with one of the hydro coaches, Aisha, and she
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: said that whenever she has a day she doesn't want
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to run, she looks back because she thinks like running
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: is a constant, Like it's the same every single day.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: So what is it about me that I don't want
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to run today? And kind of analyzing it from that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: instead of like, oh running feels hard or it's this.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You know, running is always the same exact thing. So
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: what is it about you? Like, do you feel like overwhelmed,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: do you feel stressed? Is there a lot going on?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And kind of answering that and then figuring out how
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to put running into your life. I think I had
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: never looked at it that way, but I think that
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: was kind of a just a unique way to think
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Definitely, Well, I'm so happy that we were gonna we
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: were able to catch up today. Before I let you go,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: we're going to go through a flash question round.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Then I have a final question. Are you ready born?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Ready Born? Ready? Okay? Favorite movie of the year.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh this is such a good question. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: haven't watched a lot of movies lately. We've got a
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: kick with all these like old school movies. Okay, So
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the big because we went
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to New York, we saw Fao Schwartz, and we came
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: home and watched the movie with the kids. That's probably
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the most recent movie I've seen. So kind of biased,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that was good.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Favorite song of the year on your running playlist.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Oh that's so good. I had at the beginning of
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the year at Houston. I had like four or five
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: songs on like repeat that I listened to all the time.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Let's see if I.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Live look at the room.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: My gosh, I got to pick it up. I have
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like the worst memory.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I have the song nice for What by Drake on
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: my marathon playlist five times, and whenever it comes on,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: it's like my power song, like I have to like
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: get my act together.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I love Okay, So my power song this
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: year was the Edge of Midnight by Miley Cyrus.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: That was like my power song this year because it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: like a like a Fleetwood Mac like remix song. Oh man,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that was good. So that was that was my twenty
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: twenty two song.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus for the win. Do you have most memorable
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: meal of the year?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, meal the year, which, unfortunately for my family I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: made probably once a week, which eating that once a week,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: that's like fifty times this year, just chicken and rice
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: all the time. My family is like, oh great, Mom
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: made chicken and rice again. But that's like you're serving
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: with a vegetable. Yeah, I'll put a vegetable in there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: The vegetable changes. Like if my kids are like, you know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: if they win, it's art chokes. That's like our favorite meal,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: art chokes, chicken and rice. Oh I love that for you?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Okay. Can you reflect on perhaps a best piece of
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: advice that you were offered this year?
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Hmmm.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I think one of the most eye opening conversations I had.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I was at the MIT Sloan Sports Conference this year
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and one of my fellow presenters came up to me
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: afterwards and was like, Kira, you're happy and I was
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: like yeah, and he's like, no, you're like really happy.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, and he's like, it's clear
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that you have structure your life like your your goals
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: make you happy. So you've been successful, like you're not
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: chasing goals, you're chasing happiness. And I thought that was
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I'd never looked at it that way, but it really
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like opened my eyes that It's like when you're chasing
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: things that excite you and you're working hard to do
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: things that make you happy, you find even more success
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: than because I felt like in my Round one, I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: was always like if I succeed, then I'll be happy.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: And I just in that moment, I was like, oh
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: my gosh, I had it backwards for so long. I'm happy,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: so I'm succeeding. And so I think just that just
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: really like rock my world a little bit kind of
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: looking at it like that. So that is going to be, Yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: chase goals that excite you.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: What would you say the most exciting thing will be
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: that Kira will accomplish in twenty twenty three.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Kia's going to go after it again. Kira
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: is going to go after it again. So I'm definitely
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: going to do a spring marathon. I'm not quite sure
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: yet which one, and I'm going to step myself up.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: The Olympic Trials are in twenty twenty four, so I'm
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: going to get in some really great training to go
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: into that race as fit as possible. I currently am
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: not an Olympian, and I would like to be an Olympian.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: So I think twenty twenty three is going to be
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a really good setup for the twenty four trials and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: how I'm going to go after it again, Man, going
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to try to win some races and have some fun.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Last, but not least, favorite piece of gear that you
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: used in twenty twenty two?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Oh Man, Should I pick like my most frequent or
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: like because I have like a number of So I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: think my favorite gear in races is either like my
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Nike Alpha Fly shoes for marathony or my sunglasses, the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Nike Victory Elite sunglasses. When you wear sunglasses and you
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: race like, your race photos are like infinitely better because
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: they can't tell how far your soul is being crushed
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: in that moment. But then also it keeps all the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: stuff out of your eyes, and you know how to swint,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like really good reasons to
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: wear sunglasses. But I think this was like the year
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of sunglasses for me. So I think then also, fanny pack.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I was huge into fanny packs in twenty twenty two,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: and I don't regret that at all. But I have
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: an awesome Nike one. I've worn it with leather pants
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: like out, and then I've worn it with like running clothes.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's so versatile. But yeah, fanny pack
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: for the wind too.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Whoever has Kira for a Secret Santa, you can buy
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: her like an upscale fanny pack.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Those exist. I thought you just like, no, Yeah,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: they exist.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have me. I'm on it. I'm gonna head
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: up Tony. I'm gonna let him know.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let him know. That's a really good idea. Yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I need I need to kind of give them some hints.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I want to open the floor to you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Is there anything else that you want to make sure
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: you say about twenty twenty two before we officially turn
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: the page.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a that's a big question. You are
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: awesome twenty twenty two. And let's even like raise a
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: roof even harder. In twenty twenty three, I guess it's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just been fun seeing our world
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: get back from COVID and go back to some new
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: normal with everything that we learned in those like two
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: years and everything. And I think it's gonna be really
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: fun to see where everything goes. Like, I don't know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I just feel like the best is yet to come,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and I feel that way for like everybody. So I
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: feel really optimistic and excited going into twenty twenty three
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: and just ready to see what the future holds. How
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: about you, that's a big question. I'm gonna throw it
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: right back to you and put you on the spot.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: What do I want to say to twenty twenty two
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: as I turn the page into twenty twenty three. Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I would say that I will not start twenty twenty
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: three navigating some of the like emotional hurdles that I
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: start to twenty twenty two with. I feel very satisfied
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: and content, like putting what I hope will be like
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: a chapter of depression behind me, and like really optimistic
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: going into twenty twenty three.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: My word I asked you about, like your word?
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: My word not as good as buzzsaw, but is simply great.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: My family motto has always been do good.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: And what I.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Have realized over the last few weeks is, in a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: few different aspects of my life, I've been so good
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: with good that I haven't chased great, and I'm ready
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: to be great. I'm ready to step into what great
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: could look like and get comfortable with the uncomfortable that
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I know will come with great.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's awesome because I think, like, when you
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: go for great, it almost doesn't matter if you hit
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: great or not. It's going for the great, which is
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: what is great? Am I talking in circles a little bit?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I think I did, but like following you, yeah, I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: think that that is like, it's that's awesome, and just
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: striving for more and figuring out how to like just
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: do more for yourself, I think is I think it's great.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: That's a great answer. It's a great answer. You know.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It made me think real quick about and I'm sure
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: maybe you felt this way in Houston. But it's like
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: when I be cute, and I never thought that I
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: would be cute. I wasn't even going after great, but
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I found great by like chasing the best version of
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: myself on that day, and there is no better feeling
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: than surprising yourself with the greatness of your potential.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I got the chills all over, got the chills.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: That's perfect.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, final question here a piece of advice you
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: know how we do it here on hurdle that you
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: would offer yourself at the beginning of twenty twenty two.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Being that you are now twenty twenty three, kere, so,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: knowing what you know now, what piece of advice would
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: you offer yourself back at the beginning of last year?
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Keep doing you You're doing great, you know. And it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: funny because recently I've been thinking like about like I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe this is going to get a little weird,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: but like just trusting in your past in future self,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you know, because I think when you overanalyze what's happened
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: in the past, it can lead towards like regret. And
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: if you're like overanalyzing what your future self is going
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to go through, there's worry. So I think just trusting
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in your past and future self and just knowing that
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: like that was a different Emily or that was a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: different Kira, and they were doing the best with what
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: they had at the time for whatever reason, Like I've
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: been going through that mentality recently, and it's just it
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: puts me at peace because I'm like, I'm going to
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: do the best I can in any situation, and past
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Kira did that and future here is going to do that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, this maybe just a little bit
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: out there, but that's something I've just been thinking about
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: lately that it's like it just brings me at peace,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: just knowing like I'm doing the best I can. I
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: did in the past, I did in the future. But yeah,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that's a weird way to wrap up. I don't know
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: if any of that.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I would expect nothing less than you to.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: You trust your past and future self. You know, we're
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: all on the same team here. That's the same.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Team, but you're a tomato.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Always a joy sitting down with you. I can't think
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: of a better way to start twenty twenty three. If
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: they don't yet, how do the hurdlers keep up with you?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: How do they follow along with you? Give us your deats?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look outside, I maybe running by their house right now.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I run a lot, but I'm on Instagram just Kira
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: a dematto, and then I'm on Strava, which is really fun.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: If you like jokes, you should definitely follow me on
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Strava because every day instead of just the normal run title,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I put a joke. So that's that's fun. And then
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: if you do carry your pigeons, just send them my house.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I can communicate that way and SMA signals. Maybe that's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: what I'll work on in twenty twenty three is I'll
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: learn how to read smoke signals. So I'm really open
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: to communicating. You just let me know what works best
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: for you. Uh, you can be honest.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I saw that you and I follow the same pun
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: account on Twitter.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: So are you ripping some of those puns for your Strava? Oh?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, but I turn them a little bit, you know,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: so they'll be like, they'll say something, I'm like, oh,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I can turn that into like a running joke. So
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: we'll say they're inspired. Some of them are, I guess directly,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: but I get sourceded. I got inspiration from a lot
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: of different a lot of different sources. So oh yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that's a good one too. I just Lexa tell me
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: a joke, and then she'll tell a joke, and sometimes
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that stuals up, so mission I'm not that funny on
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: my own. I will put that out there. I need
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of help.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I appreciate you.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast at emily A Badi another
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: hurdle conquered.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Catch you guys, next time
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: To