Guests - Betsy Smith, Dave Smith, Bruce De Torres, Patty Juligay

Winn Tucson · Jan 12, 2026 · 1h 30m

Guests - Betsy Smith, Dave Smith, Bruce De Torres, Patty Juligay

Retired sergeant Betsy Smith joined Winn to dissect the controversy surrounding Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and calls from Democrats to defund or even abolish ICE.

Dave Smith joined Winn to widen the lens, framing the Minneapolis events as the culmination of four years of neglected border sovereignty under the Biden administration.

Bruce De Torres, director of communications for the American Small Business League, discussed the Small Business Administration’s recent suspension of nearly 7,000 Minnesota borrowers over…