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Sharri | 27 April · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why What?
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Speaker 2: Sky News?
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Speaker 3: This is Sharry Good Evening. With Donald Trump staring down
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Speaker 3: his fourth assassination attempt, the Secret Service is facing questions
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Speaker 3: about major security flaws. This as Democrats are urged to
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Speaker 3: tone down their rhetoric. Will Cross lies to a Fox
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Speaker 3: News reporter in Washington. Shortly a New York Post columnist
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Speaker 3: Miranda Devine, where she was at the White House Correspondent's
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Speaker 3: Dinner and tonight she reveals how she was evacuated with
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Speaker 3: the Treasury Secretary in an armored vehicle. That's coming up.
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Speaker 3: Also on the show isis Bride set to fly to
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Speaker 3: Australia after securing passpots and tickets. Ray Hadley's here and
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Speaker 3: he says the Albanezy government shouldn't allow this, and the
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Police accused the AFP of political games
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Speaker 3: over the Bondai Royal Commission. The Police Association president will
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Speaker 3: be here a bit later. Plus is Ray Prime Minister Benjaminetteya,
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Speaker 3: who's biggest rivals have joined forces to take him down
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Speaker 3: at the upcoming election. We'll get the latest, but first
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Speaker 3: you have to ask what has our world come to?
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Speaker 3: You can't help but look around and determine that Western
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Speaker 3: democracies like the United States and even Australia are no
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Speaker 3: longer safe places to live. President Donald Trump has faced
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Speaker 3: at least three, maybe four, serious assassination attempts, and it's
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Speaker 3: a safe bet there's more coming. It's extremely lucky he's
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Speaker 3: still alive. The closest call was at the rally in Butler, Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 3: when the bullet was just millimeters away from killing him.
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Speaker 3: The president must wake up every day knowing that there
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Speaker 3: are people who want him dead, and he has to
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Speaker 3: be extremely cautious at all times. He'd never feel completely safe.
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Speaker 3: And here he is speaking about what a dangerous job
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Speaker 3: it is to be president.
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Speaker 4: No, it's a dangerous profession, but I don't view it
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Speaker 4: that way. Look, I'm here to do a job. As
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Speaker 4: part of the job, it is a dangerous I can't
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Speaker 4: imagine that there's any profession there's more dangerous. But I
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Speaker 4: love the country and I'm very proud. I'm very proud
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Speaker 4: of the job we've done. You see what's happened. We
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Speaker 4: have a great country. We've got I think the most successful,
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Speaker 4: the hottest country anywhere.
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Speaker 1: In the world.
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Speaker 4: This happened over a period of just a year, and
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Speaker 4: we're going to do great things. But with that come risks,
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Speaker 4: There's no question about it.
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Speaker 3: Look, he's got a remarkable attitude, truly remarkable. At the
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Speaker 3: White House correspondence dinner, you'd assume that the President and
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Speaker 3: the two thousand or so guests, many of them high
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Speaker 3: profile and in senior positions, you'd assume that they'd be safe,
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Speaker 3: but it would be assassin still managed to get just
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Speaker 3: outside the ballroom, within striking distance of the president. The
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Speaker 3: alleged gunman, Cole Allen, simply checked into the hotel the
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Speaker 3: day before the dinner, carrying we're told two knives, multi
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Speaker 3: multiple knives, and at least two guns. He checked into
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Speaker 3: a hotel room and casually caught the lift down to
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Speaker 3: where the President and five of his top officials in
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Speaker 3: the presidential line of succession were now. The Secret Service
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Speaker 3: did a stunning job on the ground, but President Trump
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Speaker 3: commented about the lack of security at the Washington Hotel,
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Speaker 3: despite the fact that that very hotel, the Washington Hilton,
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Speaker 3: was where President Reagan and his press secretary were shot
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Speaker 3: forty five years ago.
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Speaker 4: I will say, you know, it's not a particularly secure building.
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Speaker 4: And I didn't want to say this, but this is
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Speaker 4: why we have to have all of the attributes of
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Speaker 4: what we're planning at the way. It's actually a larger room,
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Speaker 4: and it's much more secure. It's got it's drone proof,
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Speaker 4: it's bulletproof. Last, we need the ballroom. That's why Secret Service,
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Speaker 4: that's why the military are demanding it. They've wanted the
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Speaker 4: ballroom for one hundred and fifty years for lots of
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Speaker 4: different reasons. But today's a little bit different because today
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Speaker 4: we need levels of security that probably nobody's ever seen before.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's right now, it would be very hard
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Speaker 3: to argue with the case for Trump using his own
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Speaker 3: money to pay for that ballroom. Now here's what the
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Speaker 3: FBI had to say today.
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Speaker 5: The FBI was rapidly deployed onto the scene, took over
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Speaker 5: the evidence Response unit is examining all the ballistics that
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Speaker 5: were found on scene, to include the long gun and
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Speaker 5: the shell casings. We are conducting witness interviews as we
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Speaker 5: speak now.
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Speaker 3: There's been political violence in the past, of course, from
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Speaker 3: JFK's assassination in nineteen sixty three to Abraham Lincoln in
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Speaker 3: eighteen sixty five. Those are the most famous, but two
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Speaker 3: other presidents were also assassinated James Garfield in eighteen eighty
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Speaker 3: one and William McKinley in nineteen oh one. But the
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Speaker 3: frequency of political violence that we're seeing now is perhaps unprecedented.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you think of the shocking murder of Charlie Kirk,
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Speaker 3: the United Healthcare Chief executive Brian Thompson, and Minnesota politician
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Speaker 3: Melissa Hortman. Now, Maranda Devine was in the room yesterday
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Speaker 3: when all hell broke loose. She's on the show tonight,
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Speaker 3: but she was sitting at a front table with Treasury
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Speaker 3: Secretary Scott Bessant, Douglas Murray, Mike Waltz, and others, and
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Speaker 3: she was evacuated with Bessant into his armored vehicle. She
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Speaker 3: tells us about what happened behind the scenes, but she
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Speaker 3: agrees that we are seeing political violence now with increasing regularity.
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Speaker 2: Political assassinations are now happening with sickening regularity. We saw
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, we saw the CEO of a healthcare company
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Speaker 2: shot in, you know, in the middle of Manhattan, and
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Speaker 2: of course these attacks on Trump.
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Speaker 3: She's also very critical of the role of Democrat talking points.
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Speaker 3: They're ratric in creating an environment that seems to excuse
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Speaker 3: or maybe even encourages assassination attempts and political violence.
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Speaker 2: Basic mainstream Democrat talking points calling Donald Trump a pedophile,
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Speaker 2: a rapist, a traitor. They are all things that you
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Speaker 2: are hearing every day in mainstream Democrat left wing conversation.
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Speaker 3: And here's one example.
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Speaker 6: And it was a great video where you talked about
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Speaker 6: you know, someone has to do it.
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Speaker 7: See when I say that everyone knows he's that, which
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Speaker 7: is I think that shows that there is a lot
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Speaker 7: of anger, a lot of resentment, and untapped potential, untapped revolutionary.
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Speaker 6: Potential as a matter of fact, and it's a great
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Speaker 6: opportunity for organizing it.
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Speaker 3: It's disgraceful and trying to frame it in revolutionary terms,
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Speaker 3: it's just so wrong. And even comedian Jimmy Kimmel you've
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Speaker 3: probably seen this already, he cracked a joke about Milania
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Speaker 3: being a widow. He was doing a parody of the
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Speaker 3: White House Correspondence dinner three days before the actual event.
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Speaker 1: Our first lady Milania is here. Look at more so
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Speaker 1: beautiful missus Trump. You have a glow like an expectant widow.
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Speaker 3: Now, gags like this are just normalizing the idea of
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Speaker 3: killing the president, and that wasn't funny at all, yet
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Speaker 3: they played laughter. There's also Democrats, like Miranda said, framing
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Speaker 3: the political context as warfare. Here's a minority leader of
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Speaker 3: the United States House of Representatives, Hakim Jefferies.
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Speaker 8: It's maximum warfare everywhere, all the time. Understand that Donald
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Speaker 8: Trump and Republicans with their Shaku and Owe strategy intentionally
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Speaker 8: are trying to disorient discourage folks from pushing back and
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Speaker 8: fighting back. They thought that we were going to step back,
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Speaker 8: but we've determined to fight back everywhere all the time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not surprising to learn that Cole Allen
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Speaker 3: has previously donated to the Democrats and is from the
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Speaker 3: Democrat heartland, California. But the bigger question is how do
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Speaker 3: we live in a world like this? Where is it
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Speaker 3: safe to go? Political violence and terrorism is poisoning our
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Speaker 3: way of life. Bullets are not arguments, Assassins are not
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Speaker 3: heroes or patriots or revolutionaries, and violence is not democracy
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Speaker 3: and sharlot. It's time for all sides of politics, particularly
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Speaker 3: in the United States, to unequivocally condemn this. But I
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Speaker 3: just shake my head and despair at the sod of
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Speaker 3: world we've become. Now for more on this. As I said,
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Speaker 3: I spoke with Miranda Divine, columnist at the New York Post.
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Speaker 3: She was there at the dinner when the alleged gunman
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Speaker 3: started firing, and she told me about this a little earlier. Miranda,
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Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time. You were there
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Speaker 3: in the room last night. Can you tell us what happened?
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Speaker 2: So I had a bird's eye view of what was
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Speaker 2: going on, and suddenly there was this commotion from behind us.
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Speaker 9: I was just talking to somebody next to me, and.
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Speaker 2: It's just sounded like crockery breaking, you know, like a waiter.
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Speaker 2: It dropped a tray of dishes, which is what Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump actually thought as well. I didn't hear the gunshots,
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Speaker 2: neither anyone on my table. That was only evident to
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Speaker 2: people at the back of the room. Huge room, hundreds
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Speaker 2: of people, and so they could hear it at the back,
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Speaker 2: but we didn't hear it at the front. We just
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Speaker 2: heard crashing crockery and then all this commotion and tables
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Speaker 2: flipping over, and nobody screamed or did anything. But suddenly
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Speaker 2: everyone around us just hit the deck.
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Speaker 9: And I was at my table.
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Speaker 2: I was with two English and the rest were Americans,
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Speaker 2: and I was. One of the English people was Douglas Murray,
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Speaker 2: and the other was my editor, Keith Paul, and we
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Speaker 2: were actually remarking later on that unlike the Americans, we
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Speaker 2: weren't as quick to hit the deck because I guess
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Speaker 2: it's second nature to them.
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Speaker 9: They even are taught at school.
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Speaker 2: About school shootings and you know, get under your desk.
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Speaker 2: So I just felt I was very slow on the uptack.
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Speaker 9: I really didn't know what was going on.
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Speaker 2: And then the Secret Service was swarming everywhere, climbing over tables,
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Speaker 2: knocking over tables, all rushing up on stage to bundle
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Speaker 2: President Trump and JD. Vance off the stage. I really
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Speaker 2: honestly did not have time to have fear. And then
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Speaker 2: I was evacuated out. My seat mate was Treasury Secretary
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Speaker 2: Scott Besant, and he just said to me, do you
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Speaker 2: want to come with me?
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Speaker 9: And I thought, okay, And I mean there was no.
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Speaker 2: Danger in the ballroom really at that stage, but I
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Speaker 2: just went out with him in his Secret Service detail
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Speaker 2: and rushing up and downstairs and into his armored vehicle
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Speaker 2: and then speeding through the streets, and you know, they
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Speaker 2: were police everywhere in sirens, and.
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Speaker 9: It was surreal.
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Speaker 2: The only thing I can say is it was just
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Speaker 2: like in one of those disaster movies in America, and
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Speaker 2: I just don't know. This is really the fourth assassination
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Speaker 2: attempt on Donald Trump in less than two years, and
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Speaker 2: I'm counting the guy in February.
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Speaker 9: It didn't get a lot of coverage.
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Speaker 2: You might not have even heard about it in Australia,
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Speaker 2: but he tried to breach the sort of barged through
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Speaker 2: the gate of marri Lago with the canister of gas
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Speaker 2: and a shotgun, So I count that as an extra
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Speaker 2: assassination attempt. But either way, you know, three or four,
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Speaker 2: it's way too many, and I mean, it's terrifying and
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what more can be done to safeguard
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Speaker 2: the president and his entire cabinet. Was there pretty much
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Speaker 2: apart from Howard Lutnik.
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Speaker 3: Miranda, you mentioned that this is the third or fourth
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Speaker 3: assassination attempt on President Trump's life, and the one he
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Speaker 3: survived by millimeters. Really, we've obviously had political assassinations in
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Speaker 3: the past, but the number on President Trump is unprecedented,
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Speaker 3: and the level of political violence at the moment, particularly
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Speaker 3: in America but even in Australia here that the terror
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Speaker 3: attacks as well. The threat is just so serious.
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Speaker 1: What are your.
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Speaker 3: Reflections on how the President operates? Gets up every day
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Speaker 3: knowing that there are so many threats in his life,
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Speaker 3: knowing that even in a secure location with the Secret
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Speaker 3: Service and the FBI there, someone can still get within
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Speaker 3: fifty or so meters of him.
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Speaker 2: He sort of prides himself and I think has trained
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Speaker 2: himself to have a poker face in all situations, which
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Speaker 2: he I guess cultivated because he's a real estate deal
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Speaker 2: maker and he uses that in his international relations.
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Speaker 9: And he was like that last night.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there was just not a shadow of any
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Speaker 2: sort of expression on his face other than slightly quizzical,
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Speaker 2: and you know, his jaw was set. Trump's just like
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Speaker 2: calmly taking stock of the room and looking over to
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Speaker 2: the Secret Service agents who are dashing towards him to
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Speaker 2: protect him. They put their body in front of him.
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Speaker 2: So I just think he's just made of different stuff
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Speaker 2: than most people, which is a good thing, because you know,
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Speaker 2: he radiated. I just think in a situation in America,
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Speaker 2: which I think it's hard to really comprehend in Australia,
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Speaker 2: but it's a place where political assassinations are now happening
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Speaker 2: with sickening regularity. We saw Charlie Kirk, we saw the
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Speaker 2: CEO of a healthcare company shot in you know, the
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Speaker 2: middle of Manhattan. And of course these attacks on Trump,
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Speaker 2: and one of them in Butler, Pennsylvania, which hit his
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Speaker 2: ear and killed another rally goer. People on the left
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Speaker 2: just celebrate it. You know, they really are bloodthirsty. There
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Speaker 2: is a bloodlust for the death of Trump and his
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Speaker 2: cabinet members. The demonization of him from the left. It's
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Speaker 2: just mainstream now. And this current alleged gunman, his manifesto
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Speaker 2: that we just published in the New York Post is
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Speaker 2: basic mainstream Democrat talking points, calling Donald Trump a pedophile,
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Speaker 2: a rapist, a traitor, Stalin, the Antichrist, Nazi, Hitler, they
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Speaker 2: are all things that you are hearing every day in
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Speaker 2: mainstream Democrat left wing conversation. It's not even fringe anymore.
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Speaker 3: Just finally, Miranda, you mentioned the manifesto that was published
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Speaker 3: in the New York Post of the alleged assassin. What
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Speaker 3: else do we know about him and how did he
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Speaker 3: get so close outside the ballroom.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's thirty one years old, he's a teacher from
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. He caught trains across the country from LA
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Speaker 2: to Washington, DC. He booked into the Hilton a day before,
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Speaker 2: and in fact, in his manifesto he scoffs at the
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Speaker 2: lacks security and he says, imagine if I was from
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Speaker 2: Iran or the Iranians decided to do it. And I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's absolutely right.
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Speaker 9: This guy.
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Speaker 2: He I mean, he's alive, he was arrested, wasn't shot
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Speaker 2: at he shot off. I think about ten shots that
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Speaker 2: you could hear it on the video, but I think that,
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Speaker 2: you know, the security I noticed there and we were remarking,
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Speaker 2: actually my colleagues and I beforehand, that how easy it
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Speaker 2: was to get in. There were a whole lot of
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Speaker 2: protesters outside the Hilton, which is the same hotel where
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Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan was almost assassinated back in nineteen ninety one.
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Speaker 2: In fact, his press secretary, James Brady was shot in
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Speaker 2: the head paralyzed, and the press briefing room in the
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Speaker 2: White House is named after him, the James S.
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Speaker 9: Brady Briefing Room.
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Speaker 2: So you know, it's a historic place for assassinations. And
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Speaker 2: we just strolled in. I didn't even have a ticket
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Speaker 2: to the dinner because my colleague was holding it for
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Speaker 2: me inside, and so I just had on my phone
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Speaker 2: a PDF of an invitation to one of the parties
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Speaker 2: that are going on in the basement.
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Speaker 9: So I was just waved through. They didn't really even
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Speaker 9: look at it.
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Speaker 2: No idea was asked for, so, you know, metal detectors
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Speaker 2: or bag screening. As I came into the hotel with
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Speaker 2: my other about five other colleagues, and then we made
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Speaker 2: our way.
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Speaker 9: To the party, no security again.
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Speaker 2: And then it was only when we were going back
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Speaker 2: into the ballroom that we were ushered by secret Service
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Speaker 2: through the magnetometer. So and then you got your bag
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Speaker 2: looked at and so on, but no one really asked
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Speaker 2: for my ticket. And so that's what this guy did.
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Speaker 2: He just took an elevator from his hotel room. He
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Speaker 2: assembled the gun in there and then took an elevator down.
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Speaker 2: He had two guns and he also had knives, and
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Speaker 2: he in his manifest or he actually he told the
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Speaker 2: FBI that he had planned to burst into the ballroom,
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Speaker 2: go down the aisle, and shoot as many people as
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Speaker 2: he could on the way. He wanted to get Trump
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Speaker 2: and his officials, and he would.
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Speaker 9: Try not his cabinet members who were there and.
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Speaker 2: He would try not to kill any guests, but if
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Speaker 2: they did happen to die, it was therefore.
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Speaker 9: For being in a room listening.
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Speaker 2: To a speech by a known rapist and pedophile as
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Speaker 2: in Trump. So you know, I was right in the aisle,
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Speaker 2: right at the front, right next to Scott Besson with
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Speaker 2: lee'ze Elden was on our table as well, and Mike Waltz,
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Speaker 2: the UN ambassador, so we had three cabinet level people there.
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Speaker 2: So you know, it was very feasible that if he'd
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Speaker 2: been able to get through, he could have done some damage.
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Speaker 3: Such a worry. And it's so lucky that everyone is safe.
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Speaker 3: And Miranda, thank god you're safe as well. It must
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Speaker 3: have been so terrifying. Thank you for your time and
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Speaker 3: for sharing what happened with us. Thanks so much, Sherry,
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Speaker 3: And I think the biggest issue now is the security
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Speaker 3: around the president. They have to fix it. That was
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Speaker 3: just not good enough last night. I mean, they should
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Speaker 3: have learned their lesson by now. It makes me so
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Speaker 3: angry and so worried for his life and his safety.
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Speaker 3: All right, for more in the shooting, Let's bring it now,
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Speaker 3: sky Andy's host Steve Price and The Nightlies chief writer
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Speaker 3: Aaron Patrick and by the way, we're crossing live to
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Speaker 3: Washington soon for the latest. Welcome gentlemen, good to see you.
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Speaker 3: So Trump has called a sixty Minutes reporter or a
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Speaker 3: disgrace after she read to him in kind of an
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Speaker 3: accusatory way from the alleged assassin's manifesto. Have a look.
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Speaker 3: He also wrote this, I'm no longer willing to permit
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Speaker 3: a pedophile, rapist, and trader to coat my hands with
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Speaker 3: his crimes.
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Speaker 9: What's your reaction?
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Speaker 10: Well, I was waiting for you to read that because
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Speaker 10: I knew you would, because you're horrible people. Horrible people. Yeah,
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Speaker 10: he did write that, I'm not a rapist.
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Speaker 9: I didn't rape anybody. Do you think he was refused
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Speaker 9: to excuse me, I'm not a pedophile.
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Speaker 10: You read that crap from some sick person. You should
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Speaker 10: be ashamed of yourself reading that, because I'm not any
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Speaker 10: of those things.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Steve, she was almost accusing him of observing
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Speaker 3: the hits.
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Speaker 11: Well, what about the fact that she pretended to say
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Speaker 11: to the president, Oh, you think that's about you? I mean,
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Speaker 11: of course she read it out knowing that he would
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Speaker 11: react in that way. It was a classic gotcha moment
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Speaker 11: from sixty minutes, you would have thought sixty minutes, even
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Speaker 11: if it is from the very left leaning American television network,
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Speaker 11: that sixty minutes might be a bit better than that.
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Speaker 11: I just as you've said sharing the opening of the program,
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Speaker 11: the way Donald Trump handles these things is quite magnificent. Really,
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Speaker 11: he just stared her down and said, I'm not a rapist,
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Speaker 11: I'm not a pedophile.
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Speaker 9: You know that.
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Speaker 11: And can you imagine in the Australian context, any reporter
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Speaker 11: suggesting to Anthony Albanezi or to Angus Taylor that they
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Speaker 11: were one of those things because some nut job had
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Speaker 11: written it in a manifesto. It just wouldn't happen here.
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Speaker 1: I don't think.
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Speaker 3: Aaron, as we've been discussing, Trump has had so many
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Speaker 3: threats on his life. Now, do you think the security
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Speaker 3: services there needs to be a review clearly not doing
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Speaker 3: a good enough job.
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Speaker 12: There's clearly a problem here, and no doubt they'll be
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Speaker 12: incredibly serious questions asked Internally. The Secret Service does not
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Speaker 12: want to lose another president, and so they are real
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Speaker 12: professionals and they take this unbelievably seriously. But something's clearly
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Speaker 12: gone wrong, and they see fixed.
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Speaker 3: Me, you think they would have learnt the lesson after Butler?
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Speaker 12: Though, Well, who would have thought after Butler when it
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Speaker 12: came within centimeters of death, that we'd have someone able
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Speaker 12: to get so close to the president with a shotgun.
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Speaker 12: Shotgun so everyone in the room could hear it, they
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Speaker 12: could spell the gunpowder. It's unbelievable.
21:43
Speaker 3: Well, those people at the back of the room could
21:45
Speaker 3: hear it, Miranda said, because she was at the front,
21:48
Speaker 3: she actually couldn't hear it. But I mean the story
21:52
Speaker 3: she told there is she said it to me off
21:55
Speaker 3: that you know, all the Americans got down really quickly,
21:58
Speaker 3: and then it was her and two Brits, you know,
22:01
Speaker 3: the Australian and two Brits who were sitting there going, oh,
22:03
Speaker 3: what's going on? And they were slow to react because
22:06
Speaker 3: you know, as Australians we're not used to and the
22:09
Speaker 3: same with Brits, not really used to this. Well, let's
22:12
Speaker 3: talk about isis brides now and again I'm going to
22:15
Speaker 3: come back to this topic. We're crossing live to Washington
22:17
Speaker 3: with a Fox News reporter in a moment. It was
22:20
Speaker 3: only just last week though, that we were speaking about
22:22
Speaker 3: the Isis Brides now. The Australian has reported that four
22:26
Speaker 3: Isis brides and their nine children have been moved out
22:29
Speaker 3: of the al Roge camp, taken to Damascus over the weekend,
22:32
Speaker 3: and Syrian authorities expect to try and deport them to
22:35
Speaker 3: Australia within days or here was Labour's response.
22:41
Speaker 13: O government is not repatriating these people, and we've made
22:45
Speaker 13: this really clear and we're not providing any support. Our
22:50
Speaker 13: intelligence agencies and our security agencies are always alert to
22:56
Speaker 13: anyone who might come into the country and we have
22:59
Speaker 13: utter face in respect of what they do. We have
23:04
Speaker 13: explored and indeed put in place exclusion orders in relation
23:08
Speaker 13: to people where we have been able to do that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is mind blowing. From the very first
23:14
Speaker 3: day that Liam Mendes broke this story in the front
23:16
Speaker 3: page of The Australian, the Albanezi government's been saying, oh,
23:19
Speaker 3: it's or not true, it's falsome, and the Prime Minister
23:22
Speaker 3: said that in Parliament Steve. They've literally got plane tickets
23:26
Speaker 3: and they're still saying they're not being repatriated.
23:32
Speaker 11: It's quite unbelievable. I mean, for a start, how do
23:36
Speaker 11: they get on a plane to come to Australia in
23:37
Speaker 11: the first place. I mean, I'm not sure how that
23:39
Speaker 11: would happen. But Tanya Plivsek was on I think Sunrise
23:43
Speaker 11: this morning was asked about this and she said, well,
23:45
Speaker 11: it's the law. We can't do anything about it. Well,
23:48
Speaker 11: you can do something about it. You can either change
23:50
Speaker 11: the law or you can declare a person to be
23:54
Speaker 11: a prohibited person and then they can't come into the country,
23:57
Speaker 11: even if they do have an Australian part I mean,
24:02
Speaker 11: they just are sitting back going, ah, well, nothing to
24:05
Speaker 11: do with us. We can't touch this. If they come
24:07
Speaker 11: back here, well we'll keep an eye on them. Well,
24:10
Speaker 11: has anyone got any confidence that when they do get
24:12
Speaker 11: back here that these people will be monitored because the AFP,
24:15
Speaker 11: probably an ASIER don't have the resources to monitor them
24:18
Speaker 11: twenty four hours of those seven days a week anyway.
24:21
Speaker 3: Exactly. They're under pressure as it is. And you know,
24:25
Speaker 3: the issue is that a lot of people say, oh,
24:27
Speaker 3: there's nothing the government can do, but James Patterson has
24:30
Speaker 3: repeatedly pointed out that they can use temporary exclusion on
24:33
Speaker 3: as if they wanted to. Aaron, I mean, you can
24:36
Speaker 3: understand why Australians are so concerned about this.
24:38
Speaker 1: Issue.
24:40
Speaker 12: Of course, of course they are. I remember a couple
24:42
Speaker 12: of years ago some foreign journalists went into the camp
24:46
Speaker 12: and the kids started stoning him. I want to seen
24:50
Speaker 12: that film closed.
24:50
Speaker 3: We've played it so many times.
24:52
Speaker 12: Yeah, so this is a this is a hardcore group
24:55
Speaker 12: of Western haters and we bring back in when the
24:59
Speaker 12: memory is a bond, I still very very fresh, and
25:02
Speaker 12: I think this is going to give huge cause for
25:06
Speaker 12: concern for many many Australians.
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Speaker 3: Just to clarify, it was a different camp, but it
25:12
Speaker 3: was a similar camp, and you're right. They were really
25:15
Speaker 3: attacking the American journalist and it was quite shocking to
25:20
Speaker 3: watch the anti Western attitudes. I mean, we just don't
25:24
Speaker 3: know what this Australian cohort's like.
25:26
Speaker 12: Eric, Well, we've really got very little idea, and they've
25:30
Speaker 12: been in this camp for such a long time and
25:34
Speaker 12: to sort of be strange that they weren't incredibly radicalized.
25:38
Speaker 3: All right, let's turn to Anzac Day. Ben Robert Smith
25:41
Speaker 3: was defiant when he appeared at the crumbinarisl dawn service
25:45
Speaker 3: on the Gold Coast to pay his respect for the ANZACs.
25:48
Speaker 3: He said he'd received overwhelming supports.
25:56
Speaker 1: Is fishing day that I hurt myself and all of
25:59
Speaker 1: what was.
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Speaker 11: You seen that person before?
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Speaker 3: He has given us the touch of that he's don't
26:04
Speaker 3: around the corner kind of hard time to soundbody was
26:07
Speaker 3: saying there. But he also released or there's other videos
26:10
Speaker 3: of him making statements as well. Steve, you know, what
26:13
Speaker 3: did you make of this that he got out there
26:16
Speaker 3: on Anzac Day after how he's been treated.
26:21
Speaker 11: Well, of course he should have been there, and he
26:23
Speaker 11: said he always intended to go. And I can't tell
26:26
Speaker 11: you and Aaron how many people have come up to
26:28
Speaker 11: me in the last week or so and said we
26:30
Speaker 11: support Ben Robert Smith. You should tell Aaron. By the way,
26:34
Speaker 11: I tried to buy his book to Day Shot the
26:36
Speaker 11: Last Battle and it was actually sold. It was sold out, Aaron,
26:40
Speaker 11: I couldn't get a copy of it. I've got to
26:42
Speaker 11: go and order it in another bookshop in the city.
26:44
Speaker 11: But I want to read this book because it's been told.
26:47
Speaker 11: I've been told how great it is, how well written
26:50
Speaker 11: it is, and it is at the core of the
26:52
Speaker 11: Ben Robert Smith story. I'm happy that he was at
26:55
Speaker 11: Anzac Day. I would have liked to see him turn
26:58
Speaker 11: up at Anzac Day in Canberra. That would have the
27:00
Speaker 11: catamount of fidgets.
27:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron, remind everyone what your.
27:04
Speaker 12: Book's called, called The Last Battle and thanks for the plug, Steve,
27:07
Speaker 12: appreciate it.
27:08
Speaker 3: No, Well, you put a lot of work into it, Aaron.
27:10
Speaker 3: And you know you normally when someone has a big
27:13
Speaker 3: book out, they get a lot of invitations to appear
27:17
Speaker 3: in media outlets. I had you on I think here,
27:19
Speaker 3: of course, but you didn't get as much publicity because
27:22
Speaker 3: so much of the media are against Ben Robert Smith.
27:25
Speaker 3: But your book is about the battle, not about him,
27:28
Speaker 3: but about the battle that won him the VC.
27:30
Speaker 12: It is and the media incredibly polarized over Ben Robert Smith,
27:35
Speaker 12: and it can be hard sometimes, I think, to cut
27:38
Speaker 12: through to what's really going on and to see all
27:42
Speaker 12: sides of it. And there I agree with Steve in
27:46
Speaker 12: the sense that I do think this is this huge
27:49
Speaker 12: ground swell of support for Ben Robert Smith. Cly, he's
27:52
Speaker 12: got its attractors too, and I think we're going to
27:57
Speaker 12: go through a period of national trauma over the next
27:59
Speaker 12: few year years over this. This won't be the only
28:02
Speaker 12: war crimes trial. They'll be in a way, as I
28:04
Speaker 12: wrote this afternoon, I think the whole war has been
28:07
Speaker 12: put on trial. That's sad for the country. It's sad
28:11
Speaker 12: for the veterans. I was writing today about some of
28:14
Speaker 12: the Special Forces veterans because they did the bulk of
28:16
Speaker 12: the fighting and for them it's incredibly hard. But you
28:21
Speaker 12: see Australians just rallying to Ben Robert Smith, and I
28:24
Speaker 12: hope also they'll rally to all veterans. I hope these
28:27
Speaker 12: people who fought in Afghanistan will get now the recognition
28:31
Speaker 12: and the appreciation they badly deserve.
28:35
Speaker 3: I think just one more point on that is that
28:39
Speaker 3: the showing of support he got in Queensland perhaps explains
28:43
Speaker 3: why the AFP wanted to have the jury and the
28:46
Speaker 3: court case in New South Wales.
28:49
Speaker 12: Well, a lot of people are asking for Steve just said,
28:53
Speaker 12: I'm given he volunteered to turn up anywhere anytime. Why
28:58
Speaker 12: did they arrest him as he got off the plane
29:00
Speaker 12: in Sydney? And is the AFP running their own media
29:03
Speaker 12: strategy on this, including peraps trying to intimidate journalists.
29:08
Speaker 3: Good questions and I think that the AFP will probably
29:11
Speaker 3: come under pressure over some of these questions at Senate estimates.
29:14
Speaker 3: Think in May Aaron Patrick, Steve Price, great to have
29:18
Speaker 3: you as always, thank you. All right, let's cross now
29:23
Speaker 3: live to Washington for the latest on the shooting. Fox
29:26
Speaker 3: News correspondent Alexandria Hoff joins us, Welcome to the program.
29:31
Speaker 3: You were reporting from the scene last night. How much
29:34
Speaker 3: concern is there now about whether the Secret Service can
29:38
Speaker 3: keep the president safe?
29:41
Speaker 14: You know, I think there's been so much back and forth.
29:43
Speaker 14: First of all, thank you so much for having me.
29:44
Speaker 14: We are in the White House booth right now. This
29:46
Speaker 14: is kind of where the journals work. It's essentially below
29:49
Speaker 14: the White House.
29:50
Speaker 1: So it is a basement.
29:52
Speaker 14: But in speaking of security, I mean there's been so
29:54
Speaker 14: much back and forth on this concern over whether this
29:56
Speaker 14: venue I think is the biggest factor in did this
30:01
Speaker 14: cause a hindrance to some security measures? Super Service did
30:04
Speaker 14: their job, though, I mean their job was to protect
30:07
Speaker 14: the President, to make sure that this ballroom that the
30:09
Speaker 14: White House Correspondence dinner was taking place and was secured,
30:14
Speaker 14: and they had did just that. I mean, this was
30:17
Speaker 14: a shooting that happened outside of that line. This correspondence
30:21
Speaker 14: dinner takes place inside of a hotel, so that's where
30:25
Speaker 14: that ballroom is, and that hotel is still open to
30:27
Speaker 14: the public during this time. That's for years been somewhat
30:30
Speaker 14: of a concern just because you can't lock down the
30:33
Speaker 14: whole thing. It has eleven hundred rooms. Yeah, So you know,
30:37
Speaker 14: in this discussion, I think we've gotten to the point
30:39
Speaker 14: where the super Service did their exact job keeping the
30:43
Speaker 14: president safe and securing that ballroom. But there there still
30:46
Speaker 14: are lots of security questions about this, like was that
30:48
Speaker 14: secure perimeter? Was that far back enough?
30:52
Speaker 3: Of course I should have clarified I didn't mean the
30:55
Speaker 3: offices on the ground. I think, as I said earlier
30:57
Speaker 3: in the program, they did a stunning job, but the
31:00
Speaker 3: leadership of the Secret Service, as you said, the hotel
31:03
Speaker 3: wasn't secure. There clearly should have been better security. Former
31:07
Speaker 3: President Barack Obama released a statement earlier today where he said, well,
31:12
Speaker 3: he claims that we don't know yet the alleged shooter's motivations.
31:16
Speaker 3: This statement's receiving a lot of criticism, Alex.
31:21
Speaker 14: What it is I mean, and the timing of it
31:23
Speaker 14: is kind of bewildering because at that point there had
31:26
Speaker 14: been reports of this alleged manifesto coming from the accused shooter,
31:32
Speaker 14: Cale Allen, And in that manifesto there was very descriptive writing.
31:37
Speaker 14: It was very repetitive in nature when it comes to
31:41
Speaker 14: some of the insults that are commonly directed at President Trump.
31:45
Speaker 14: So at the point that former President Obama had put
31:49
Speaker 14: that out there with that very clear line or we
31:51
Speaker 14: don't know a motive yet, in the public realm, there
31:55
Speaker 14: had already been very descriptive measures coming from this alleged
31:58
Speaker 14: shooter that were out there where it was clear. And
32:00
Speaker 14: I mean the evening of the correspondence dinner. Anybody who
32:04
Speaker 14: was there, anybody who was around, anybody who's watching on TV,
32:06
Speaker 14: understood exactly what the target in the room was, what
32:10
Speaker 14: it would have been in any venue given where President
32:13
Speaker 14: Trump would be.
32:15
Speaker 3: Just finally, five of the six officials in the Trump
32:18
Speaker 3: succession were at the dinner. Do you think this may
32:22
Speaker 3: need to be reviewed now, you know, not having so
32:25
Speaker 3: many senior figures from the Trump administration in one place.
32:30
Speaker 14: I think it certainly will have to be I mean,
32:32
Speaker 14: there are events that happen here where people look at
32:37
Speaker 14: that a lot. I mean, there's that the State of
32:41
Speaker 14: the Union address where people always kind of make the
32:43
Speaker 14: jokes about the designated survivor, which is a real thing
32:46
Speaker 14: having somebody outside of that room. But this is a
32:49
Speaker 14: less formal in many ways occasion than that. So to
32:54
Speaker 14: have those officials in a ballroom of a public hotel,
32:57
Speaker 14: I do think that's going to get some some review
33:00
Speaker 14: at this point.
33:02
Speaker 3: Alexandria, thank you so much for your time and for
33:04
Speaker 3: joining us. And have to say it's kind of fascinating
33:06
Speaker 3: seeing what the report is at the White House. The
33:10
Speaker 3: set up there, I mean, you imagine it's going to
33:12
Speaker 3: be so glamorous, but it kind of looks like you're
33:14
Speaker 3: in the cupboard in a way.
33:17
Speaker 14: Oh oh, it's very much a cupboard and I'm always
33:19
Speaker 14: glad to show it off because they feel like people
33:21
Speaker 14: should see. You know, it is an office room, very
33:24
Speaker 14: hastily put together, but we have some of the nicest
33:27
Speaker 14: digs here. It's about getting the job done and setting
33:31
Speaker 14: up your phone light and angling at your face and
33:33
Speaker 14: hoping for the best exactly in journalism.
33:35
Speaker 3: Such important work. And thank you for getting up early
33:37
Speaker 3: for us. We appreciate it.
33:39
Speaker 8: Sure.
33:39
Speaker 14: Thanks for having me.
33:41
Speaker 3: All right, still to come new Southews police are worried
33:44
Speaker 3: they're being set up to take the fall over the
33:46
Speaker 3: Bondai terror attack. The president of the Police Association will
33:49
Speaker 3: be here live and Hate Preacher with Hadad is back
33:54
Speaker 3: on the streets on Anzac Day, his first public sighting
33:57
Speaker 3: since his ties to accused Bondai Gunman were revealed. Ray
34:01
Speaker 3: Hadley will rip in after the break welcome Back. There's
34:08
Speaker 3: been a lot of controversy of over the booing and
34:11
Speaker 3: the heckling during the Welcome to Country ceremonies at Anzac
34:15
Speaker 3: Day dawn services in Melbourne, Sydney and Perth. Politicians, police
34:20
Speaker 3: and the RSL have rightly condemned the disruptions.
34:25
Speaker 9: For thousands of years people have gathered in this place
34:31
Speaker 9: to share stories, to celebrate culture.
34:37
Speaker 3: Let's bring it now, Radio legend, Ray Hadley, Ray, great
34:40
Speaker 3: to see you. You're on the Gold Coast this week,
34:42
Speaker 3: not in studio. What was your reaction to this?
34:47
Speaker 1: I'm appalled.
34:49
Speaker 15: That's a veteran who's to be respected on an Antact day,
34:53
Speaker 15: whether it's Indigenous or non indigenous, us to be a
34:56
Speaker 15: respective and it's an appalling state of effs.
34:58
Speaker 7: No.
34:58
Speaker 15: Look, I know we can have the about welcome the
35:01
Speaker 15: country and there'll be plenty saying well, like Tony Abbott says,
35:04
Speaker 15: so I'm not going to welcome anyone to my country.
35:06
Speaker 1: But it's the way it's done.
35:07
Speaker 15: Now in NURL terms, where I spent a great part
35:11
Speaker 15: of my career in rugby league.
35:12
Speaker 1: There's a gentleman.
35:13
Speaker 15: There called Uncle Alan Madden who does it in the
35:16
Speaker 15: most gracious where he welcomes everyone where he've got it
35:19
Speaker 15: two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago or twenty
35:22
Speaker 15: years ago.
35:23
Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, workome, he says.
35:24
Speaker 15: And then you go to other places like I did
35:26
Speaker 15: in Adelade a few years back, in a state of origin,
35:29
Speaker 15: and I thought I was listening to a political statement
35:31
Speaker 15: instead of it welcomed the country. And I think it's
35:33
Speaker 15: about how it's done, and if the form was set
35:36
Speaker 15: by Uncle Alan Madden for working the country, I think
35:40
Speaker 15: far fewer Australians have a problem with it. But in
35:43
Speaker 15: terms of what happened on Anzac Day, that's a precious day.
35:45
Speaker 15: I think it's now a most important day. And I've
35:48
Speaker 15: said that for many years. And taboo, someone who's there
35:52
Speaker 15: in the capacity of a return serviceman, is just low
35:56
Speaker 15: rent stuff. And I'm glad that it's been condemned by everyone.
36:00
Speaker 15: Just about everyone anyway.
36:01
Speaker 3: Almost everyone. I agree with you. I just find booing
36:04
Speaker 3: in general extremely disrespectful. You know, I agree, welcome to
36:10
Speaker 3: countries are overdone. I'm not going to get started on that,
36:14
Speaker 3: but they are overdone.
36:17
Speaker 15: Just would I think plenty would agree with you, but
36:20
Speaker 15: not on Antac Day.
36:21
Speaker 1: Let's not do anyone in Antack.
36:22
Speaker 3: I mean there's maybe there's a debate about whether or
36:25
Speaker 3: not you need welcome to countries on Anzac Day, but
36:27
Speaker 3: I think I agree with you. Don't boo a veteran
36:30
Speaker 3: it is. It is just terrible. And imagine what he
36:32
Speaker 3: felt like standing up there being booed. Just be horrific.
36:36
Speaker 3: Maybe they should be a debate about not having the
36:38
Speaker 3: welcome to country though on Anzac Day. What do you think?
36:43
Speaker 15: No, no, if we haven't, look, I don't want talking
36:47
Speaker 15: about rent of crowds, you know. And if you have
36:49
Speaker 15: the opening of an envelope these days, you find a
36:51
Speaker 15: sixteen year old indigenous person to have a country. If
36:54
Speaker 15: you have a respected member of the Indigenous community who
36:57
Speaker 15: serve this country bravely at Inzact day and he wants
37:01
Speaker 15: to have a work in the country, well he's entitled
37:03
Speaker 15: to have a welkom the country in my opinion. And
37:06
Speaker 15: there'd be no state of affairs where I could ever
37:09
Speaker 15: forgive anyone for booing a return serviceman on Anzac Day.
37:12
Speaker 1: Whether he's black, white or brimble. It's not fair, it's
37:14
Speaker 1: not right.
37:15
Speaker 3: Agree. Agree, I'm about to talk about someone who I
37:18
Speaker 3: might boo though, even though I don't make it a
37:20
Speaker 3: practice of not booing well on Anzac Day. This hate preacher,
37:25
Speaker 3: we some hadad he was out near Sydney Town Hall,
37:29
Speaker 3: I mean about three hundred meters from the official commemoration,
37:32
Speaker 3: handing out pamphlets and preaching on the street. Have a
37:35
Speaker 3: look at this, Ray.
37:38
Speaker 2: It's appropriate to be handing these out on an ANZAC Day.
37:40
Speaker 12: One another job, right, although one answers to the Australia.
37:47
Speaker 3: I don't know who took that video at the OZ,
37:49
Speaker 3: but whichever journal it was good onto them. I'll find
37:52
Speaker 3: it out for tomorrow. Now, Ray, this is his first
37:54
Speaker 3: public sighting since the ties to the accused Bondi gunman
37:58
Speaker 3: Navid Akrom were revealed. So Ray, why is he free
38:01
Speaker 3: to preach in our streets?
38:04
Speaker 1: He would give an Ashbrower headache. This blake.
38:07
Speaker 15: I've been putting up for his bile for a decade
38:10
Speaker 15: or more. I used to speak about him on my
38:12
Speaker 15: radio Pregnum all the time. Thankfully the Council shut him
38:15
Speaker 15: down along with Chris Mins. But to go there on
38:18
Speaker 15: Anzac Day shows what sort of person we're dealing with here.
38:22
Speaker 15: He hates the place, he hates us, he hates all Australians,
38:27
Speaker 15: and he's just not a very good person. And I'd
38:30
Speaker 15: be quite happy to put him on a plane and
38:32
Speaker 15: send him somewhere else. Now you can't say back from
38:35
Speaker 15: whence he came, but just anywhere bar here, because he
38:39
Speaker 15: does us no good.
38:40
Speaker 1: He does the Muslim faith no good.
38:43
Speaker 15: Because if he's represented the Muslim faith, which I don't
38:45
Speaker 15: think he is, well, he's doing no one any good.
38:49
Speaker 15: He's just absolutely useless, and of course has been this
38:53
Speaker 15: source of annoyance for verging on a couple of decades.
38:57
Speaker 15: And yet I mean, he should have been moved he
39:00
Speaker 15: should well, if they are rest him, that probably brings
39:02
Speaker 15: him some that variety, but he should have been moved
39:04
Speaker 15: on and got out of the place a little quicker
39:06
Speaker 15: than he was dealt with by authorities.
39:08
Speaker 1: He's he's just not a very good person.
39:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'd hope will presume that he's being watched closely. Now, Ray,
39:15
Speaker 3: you were watching the coverage of the shooting yesterday, you
39:20
Speaker 3: texted me, you noticed that some of the guests. I
39:24
Speaker 3: couldn't believe this, but you were right. I saw the
39:26
Speaker 3: footage that some of the guests in the background, they
39:29
Speaker 3: took the opportunity of an evacuation to steal the grog,
39:34
Speaker 3: to steal bottles of wine. Have a look.
39:36
Speaker 9: It's tragically.
39:38
Speaker 3: We've covered shootings, We've covered all sorts of scary and
39:42
Speaker 3: terrible events.
39:43
Speaker 5: But it's not often where you have a loved one
39:46
Speaker 5: next to you in that moment.
39:49
Speaker 3: I mean ray only in Washington could have shooting, and
39:52
Speaker 3: with people taking home the wine.
39:57
Speaker 15: There was There was the one that I text you about,
39:59
Speaker 15: a black and the white kate. I thought he might
40:00
Speaker 15: have been a waiter. Everyone else had black tie and
40:02
Speaker 15: he had a white cat, and I thought, but he
40:04
Speaker 15: was talking to other guests, and then he sort of
40:06
Speaker 15: looked over his shoulder and in the corner was the
40:08
Speaker 15: reporter speaking of sky News. I was watching sky News.
40:12
Speaker 15: And he turned around and looked over his shoulder and
40:15
Speaker 15: picked up the two bottle. I really looked like high
40:17
Speaker 15: quality champagne. Not that I'm a champagne drinker, but it
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Speaker 15: looked like really good gear.
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Speaker 1: He walked off with it and I'm thinking he's now
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Speaker 1: showing the.
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Speaker 15: World he's just a cheapskate, that he's in the middle
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Speaker 15: of this drama and everyone ducking under tables.
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Speaker 1: He's knocking off two bottles of champagne.
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Speaker 3: And fed him somewhere in the United States. Aside from
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Speaker 3: all of that, I mean, didn't he realize there were
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Speaker 3: cameras all over the show?
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Speaker 1: Cherry, I got to I gotta share something.
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Speaker 15: I know it was a very serious matter, and you
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Speaker 15: know we shouldn't joke about it, but everyone dived under
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Speaker 15: the tables when neither the shooting occurred, and they didn't
40:53
Speaker 15: know what was going on. The President thought someone was
40:55
Speaker 15: letting off crackers or something or champagne corks. But there's
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Speaker 15: one shot that I remember where the bloke was under
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Speaker 15: the table picking up his phone and he was doing
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Speaker 15: a live cross and it was on Sky News as well.
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Speaker 1: It was a British gentleman.
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Speaker 15: And then all of a sudden he's whispering and seeing
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Speaker 15: it very dangerous here with doing this, and then he
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Speaker 15: sort of got up.
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Speaker 1: And everyone's stand up, able to drink.
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Speaker 3: Still he was stanging.
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Speaker 15: Maybe I think the dager may have passed because you're
41:23
Speaker 15: under the table fifteen minutes later.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, faking it off. But that was like did you
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Speaker 3: see the footage of Dana White. You know, he's the
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Speaker 3: boss of the UFC, and he refused to get down
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Speaker 3: during the shooting, and then he made those terrible comments. Afterwards,
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Speaker 3: he said, oh, this is the best thing ever. He
41:38
Speaker 3: loved it. Honestly. You know, the UFC is off in
41:42
Speaker 3: our house, but this is next level.
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Speaker 15: Well yes, well, I can't be sam an advocate of
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Speaker 15: the UFC, but it's much loved by many people. And
41:51
Speaker 15: I think if brains were dynamite, DNA wouldn't blow.
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Speaker 1: His ears off.
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Speaker 3: Look, you can't be celebrating a potential assassin attempt on
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Speaker 3: the president. And it looks like this is what it was.
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Speaker 1: Ray.
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Speaker 3: We'll see you back in Sydney, I hope next Monday.
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Speaker 15: I've got to tell you one thing before I go.
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Speaker 15: You've got a lot of viewers up here on the
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Speaker 15: Gold Case. I was out shopping with my wife today
42:16
Speaker 15: and I got pulled up by half a dozen people
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Speaker 15: saying aren't you one with Cherry tonight? And I said,
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Speaker 15: most definitely, I am, thanks to AC who got me here.
42:23
Speaker 15: So with all those people on the Gold Case to
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Speaker 15: watch every night, Cherry.
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Speaker 1: Keep doing it.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Ray. Yeah, I know, we love our viewers
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Speaker 3: all around the country. Thanks Ray. All right, Coming up,
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Speaker 3: New Southerwise police say the AFP is setting them up
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Speaker 3: to take the fall for the bond Aid terror attack.
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Speaker 3: The political games in full swing ahead of the Royal Commission.
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Speaker 3: The Police Association president will be here live after the break,
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. The AFP and ASIO are being accused of
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Speaker 3: playing political games ahead of the Bondaid terror attack Royal Commission,
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Speaker 3: with fears New southwis police will cop the blame while
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Speaker 3: federal agencies escape serious scrutiny. More than half a dozen
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Speaker 3: New Southwales police officers could give evidence over the attack,
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Speaker 3: including officers who were shot at Bondai and returned via
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Speaker 3: while as few as one AFP officer may be caught,
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Speaker 3: according to the report in the Telegraph. And joining me
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Speaker 3: now is President of the Police Association of New South Wales,
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Speaker 3: Kevin Martin. Kevin, thank you very much for being here.
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Speaker 3: What are your concerns with how the Royal Commission is
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Speaker 3: playing out?
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Speaker 16: Early indications and my concerns At the moment it is
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Speaker 16: focused primarily on the terror attack on the fourteenth of
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Speaker 16: December and certainly that will play a major role in
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Speaker 16: the Royal Commission. But the Royal Commission is set up
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Speaker 16: for to analyze and aseemic behavior in the community and
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Speaker 16: social cohesion. Now what you see from that perspective at
43:55
Speaker 16: the moment, and what I'm seeing is the witness list
43:58
Speaker 16: certainly doesn't reflect that. When you see other law enforcement
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Speaker 16: and intelligent agencies and their participation in the Royal Commission.
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Speaker 3: Are you worried that New South Wales Police are being
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Speaker 3: set up to take the fall here?
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Speaker 16: Well, unfortunately we've already been down this road once before
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Speaker 16: with the meant Cafe tragedy, where the actions of the
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Speaker 16: New South Wales Police Force were primarily put under the
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Speaker 16: microscope and those other agencies or areas involved in that
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Speaker 16: incident were discarded, especially when it came to the judiciary.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the AFP seems to buy some reports have
44:44
Speaker 3: already reviewed and cleared itself. So is that fair before
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Speaker 3: the Royal Commission has even started hearing from public submissions.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, one wonders how that could be possible because, certainly
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Speaker 16: from the New South Wales Police Force perspective, if we
45:01
Speaker 16: have a critical incident investigation which is currently ongoing a
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Speaker 16: coronial inquest and certainly the criminal case that has been
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Speaker 16: brought against the offender. I'm not going to name his name.
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Speaker 16: He doesn't deserve to be named on your program, but
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Speaker 16: those are ongoing and certainly what the AP have been
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Speaker 16: able to do and provide in their review the Royal
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Speaker 16: Commission will be done or dusted before our internal investigations
45:30
Speaker 16: are completed.
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Speaker 3: You don't want to say their names, of course, but
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Speaker 3: I have been saying them, so have you excuse me
45:37
Speaker 3: for that? Look, given that acroms traveled to known terror hotspots,
45:43
Speaker 3: shouldn't the federal agencies have raised the alarm.
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Speaker 16: I certainly think that that would have been a major
45:50
Speaker 16: line of inquiry and questioning in regards to that, and
45:54
Speaker 16: why my members had no idea who these guys were
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Speaker 16: absolutely should be a major line of inquiry.
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Speaker 3: You seem pretty angry about that.
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Speaker 16: You know it can be. You can be angry about
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Speaker 16: it now, but it doesn't take away the tragic events
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Speaker 16: on the fourteenth of December. We need to get some
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Speaker 16: learnings out of this Royal Commission and make all other
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Speaker 16: agencies in the interaction that we have better.
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Speaker 3: Now. There are issues for New South Wales police, and
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Speaker 3: I've looked at all of this very closely in terms
46:27
Speaker 3: of how many offices were at the site and the
46:31
Speaker 3: response should also be analyzed.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I totally agree with that, and they will be
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Speaker 16: born out in the investigations as I mentioned before, the
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Speaker 16: three that are ongoing. But in saying that, Shari on
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Speaker 16: the fourteenth of December, policing in New South Wales change forever.
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Speaker 16: Policing in Australia change forever. And I've got to command
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Speaker 16: the Premier and our police Minister and Commissioner who have
46:54
Speaker 16: got on the front foot with this. We now have
46:57
Speaker 16: in the formation of the new Response Command to ensure
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Speaker 16: that if we ever have another terrible incident like this again,
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Speaker 16: will be better prepared.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the key thing. That's why, you know
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Speaker 3: a lot of people think, oh, you know, you don't
47:14
Speaker 3: want to blame people. It's not about blame. It's about
47:18
Speaker 3: learning the lessons as best we can, every lesson we
47:21
Speaker 3: possibly can to try and prevent another attack, and god forbid,
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Speaker 3: if there is one, to make sure there's the best
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Speaker 3: response possible.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 16: I'm sure Commissioner Bell has that in the forefront of
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Speaker 16: her mind when she's doing the Royal Commission, because it
47:36
Speaker 16: is exactly right that we need to take the learnings
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Speaker 16: and the things that we did good and what we
47:42
Speaker 16: need to improve.
47:43
Speaker 1: On out of that.
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Speaker 16: And understand why and how and to prevent it occurring again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin Morton, thank you very much for being here.
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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. Thank you, shel and thank you
47:57
Speaker 3: for all of your police officers who who put their
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Speaker 3: lives on the line that day and two of them
48:03
Speaker 3: were critically injured. You know, we really appreciate that.
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Speaker 16: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: And just by the way, when it comes to the
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Speaker 3: lessons and the mistakes, I mean, this is something I
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Speaker 3: am investigating heavily, very closely with Alex Rifchin at the moment,
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Speaker 3: as we're in the final stages of writing our book
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Speaker 3: on the Bond Eyed terror attack. And look, I don't
48:23
Speaker 3: want to say if the Role Commission doesn't get to
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Speaker 3: the bottom of it, we will, but we have uncovered
48:27
Speaker 3: already a lot of serious mistakes and we're investigating it
48:31
Speaker 3: literally right now for the book. All right, let's quick
48:34
Speaker 3: update on what's happening in Israel. Prime Minister Benjamin Ettiya,
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Speaker 3: who is staring down his biggest political rivals former Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister NF Tarlie Bennett, who's joined forces with opposition leader
48:45
Speaker 3: Yea Lapitt. The new party will be called together and
48:48
Speaker 3: it's got one goal to oust the Nettiyahu government in
48:52
Speaker 3: the October election. Now we've seen with his announcement a
48:57
Speaker 3: big shift for n F Tarlie Bennett, who said that
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Speaker 3: he would allow civil marriages and public transport on the
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Speaker 3: sabbath even with the joined forces, though it may still
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Speaker 3: be impossible to ask nedin Yahoo. Right coming up. Iran's
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Speaker 3: embassy in Canberra recruiting Australians into so called martyrdom campaign.
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Speaker 3: That's next. Iran's embassy in Canberra has reportedly scrubbed social
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Speaker 3: media posts recruiting Australians into a so called martyrdom campaign,
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Speaker 3: directing loyalists to register through a state run portal and
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Speaker 3: send money back to Tehran the Australians. Muhammad al Pharas
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Speaker 3: reports a cryptic telegram message shared by the embassy last
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Speaker 3: week urged participation in a jan fada or martyrdom campaign.
49:47
Speaker 3: Now jan farda, they write, is a potent Persian term
49:50
Speaker 3: referring to self sacrifice and is closely associated with the
49:54
Speaker 3: concept of martyrdom. It is used to describe people willing
49:57
Speaker 3: to lay down their lives for the regime. So the
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Speaker 3: report is that the embassy in Iran was sharing these messages. Now,
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Speaker 3: as you'll recall, the Albanese government expelled the Iranian ambassador
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Speaker 3: last year, but it didn't shut down the embassy. Surely
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Speaker 3: it's now time for the embassy to be shut down
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Speaker 3: and for any officials that sent those messages trying to
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Speaker 3: recruit juhadests to be kicked out of the country. I'll
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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow at eight. And here's Paul Murray back
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Speaker 3: in the man Cave.