Latest / Financial Survival Network / Are Rate Cuts the Cure for Economic Challenges? - Eddy Gifford #6083
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- 0:00So rates have been higher for longer. We have these rates that are kind
- 0:04of kicking everybody's butt right now when it comes to commercial real estate, consumer
- 0:08debt, like all of that type of stuff. And so even the FED
- 0:11would have been like or cutting a quarter point today. Okay, so then
- 0:14your credit card went from twenty nine point nine to nine to twenty nine point
- 0:19seventy four. Right, It's not going to make a huge dedicate impact on
- 0:23anything. But what it could do is it could say, hey, like
- 0:28we understand the lag effects are kicking in. Let's slow them down before they
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- 1:03Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Well, we got the
- 1:07news today. The inflation is down. How convenient? And if inflation's down,
- 1:14then how far off can rate cuts be? Well, our good friend,
- 1:19Eddie Gifford is here to explain. Eddie, it's great to have you
- 1:23back on. So when's the rate cuts coming? Well, not today,
- 1:26we just found that out. You know, I was is that has been
- 1:30coming in. We're starting to notice that it really looks like the lag effects
- 1:36of the higher rates combined with the high inflation is really starting to make things
- 1:42crack, maybe even crumble a little bit. So you know, if I
- 1:46was Powell, I probably would have cut a quarter point today, but that's
- 1:49not what happened. So, as you mentioned earlier, CPI still slowing right,
- 1:55not going down, but still slowing, and we got beat today where
- 2:00I actually came in lower than expected, so the market was super happy about
- 2:05that. FED held rate steady and then but then you know they they basically
- 2:09said that they're only projecting one cut this year. So it's a It's very
- 2:15strange because for God like me that talks to main street USA every day and
- 2:22sees people that are challenged right now, that doesn't seem to be the picture
- 2:29that they're painting for us. Uh huh. So you know, I guess
- 2:34what choice does he have? Figures to the elections probably cooked already. Nothing
- 2:39you can do there, so might as well just do what's right for the
- 2:45country or do what's wrong for the country. Well, I think if we
- 2:49look back throughout history, but the FED has never got it right. And
- 2:53you know, generally speaking, what happens is they wait too long to cut
- 2:58and so by the time they cut, things break and crumble. And the
- 3:00reason they're cutting is because something broke. And you know what we're we've been
- 3:06seeing it for a while. We've seeing we've seen utilities outperforming, although they've
- 3:10pulled back a little bit. We've seen gold outperforming. We're starting to see
- 3:15treasuries outperform again. We're starting to see all these like flickering risk off signals.
- 3:21But of course, you know, everybody keeps telling me, no,
- 3:23the sign is different, it's time, it is different. And then in
- 3:24two years we're going to look back and be like, oh my gosh,
- 3:27all the signs were there. Why didn't why didn't anyone do anything? What
- 3:30was going on? So it just feels like we're barking up that same tree
- 3:34that we're always barking up, and consumer's going to end up being the one
- 3:38who gets hurt by it. Mm hmm, Well do you think that rate
- 3:42said the cure for all that all that ails us here, No, because
- 3:47that there's already been I mean, think about it. So rates have been
- 3:52higher for longer. We have these these rates that are kind of kicking everybody's
- 3:55butt right now when it comes to commercial real estate, consumer debt, like
- 3:59all of that type of stuff. And so even the FED would have been
- 4:01like or cutting a quarter point today. Okay, so now your credit card
- 4:05went from twenty nine point nine to nine to twenty nine point seventy four.
- 4:10Right, it's not going to make a huge dedicate impact on anything. But
- 4:15but what it could do is it could say, hey, like, we
- 4:17understand the lag effects are kicking in. Let's slow them down before they break
- 4:21everything. And that's just not what's happening that. You know, the the
- 4:26problem with being like overlay data and as you get up in this situation where
- 4:30the data has to show that things are bad or you know, abysmally bad
- 4:34before you do anything, well, by the time that happens, it's too
- 4:39late to cut. It's too late to do these things. So I think
- 4:44that they've already waited too long. And you know, obviously the fear is
- 4:47the inflation factor we're seeing that slow. It's still not you know, heading
- 4:51down to two anytime soon. But you know, we can get it down
- 4:56to two or one or zo would be a delation ravent where everything pops and
- 5:01we see this significant correction in the stock markets and we're prime. I mean,
- 5:06it's easy to look at it and say, hey, this is a
- 5:10bubble. It feels like a bubble, and you know, but how much
- 5:14further can inflate? Your guess is good as mine. But when it pops
- 5:17can to be ugly. Hey, when it pops, it's gonna pop puff.
- 5:21So so you're sticking to the thesis gold, you know, silver bitcollin.
- 5:30What about other commodities here? Yeah, I mean we're sticking to the
- 5:33adage of rules based quantitative type strategies and making sure that your your portfolio is
- 5:44truly diversified. So everyone has like one hundred stocks, they think they're diversified,
- 5:47you're not. Every single stocks moves in the same direction. Everything is
- 5:51correlated. Like everyone thinks that, oh, we have stops and bonds.
- 5:55Well, except for inflationary times, bonds correlate with equities, and so you've
- 6:00got to have something that maybe has some type of ruleset, rules base that
- 6:03helps you lean in or lean out of a trend, depending on what the
- 6:09trend is. And you got to have this stuff like the commodities and the
- 6:13precious metals and even the cryptocurrencies now as they've offered, you know, a
- 6:18uncorrelated return. You know, we don't necessarily want inversely correlated, because all
- 6:26that means is that one side goes up by ten percent, the other side
- 6:29goes down by ken percent. Well, we just earned zero, right,
- 6:31we went unincorrelated. We want everything to make money over a long term cycle,
- 6:38but we wanted to make money at different times. And that's what that's
- 6:44what a real portfolio looks like. And unfortunately I don't see many portfolios that
- 6:48look like that nowadays. As somebody once told me, the trend is your
- 6:53friend until the end. Yes, it's one of those things where the market's
- 6:57going to do what it's going to do until it doesn't, and you have
- 6:59to have a rule or some type of exit in place, because especially if
- 7:02you're near retirement, Like, yeah, a lot of people I've been meeting
- 7:05with recently like they've won the game, and yet there's still risk one and
- 7:11they're skipping over the preservation part of their timeline prior to the distribution stage of
- 7:16their retirement plan. And you know, it's one of those things where you
- 7:21got to you got to pay attention to what your own plan is and you've
- 7:26got to make adjustments is necessary. If you only need a six percent rate
- 7:30to return to retire based on the uturient asset level, why are you taking
- 7:33ten percent risk? All it takes is one moment, and if that portfolio
- 7:39gets cut in half, you're working for another ten years. Now that portfolio
- 7:42goes up by another twenty percent, it probably doesn't change your plane at all.
- 7:45You're still going to live the way you're going to live. But if
- 7:47that port realily goes down like fifty percent, your plan just got blown up.
- 7:50And it's interesting to see that people don't think like that or even just
- 7:55understand or realize the risk that's associated with the sequence of returns is they're looking
- 8:00to, you know, transition into the next days of their life. So
- 8:05how do you measure risk by the way? What's the accepted way and do
- 8:09you have any different approach to it? Well, of course Wall Street will
- 8:15tell you at standard deviation, but all set of deviation is is volatility and
- 8:18just because something is more volatile, it could be volatile and moving downward,
- 8:22and something that's more that's that's more volatile, could actually be more conservative if
- 8:28the drawdowns are less. So we pay, we pay very very close attention
- 8:33to portfolio max draw down. And then you know, we're looking more at
- 8:37Sortino than Sharp because I've never had a client mad at me for volatility to
- 8:43the m side. You know, volatility, it's it's so crazy. It
- 8:46accidentally made like they're not mad at me about that. You know, obviously,
- 8:52volatility to this downside, that's the thing that people are concerned about.
- 8:56And so max draw down in s Chertino helps us identify, hey, is
- 8:58this a good portfolio and can this work to our advantage? Shrap is nice,
- 9:03but the sharp stuff takes into account that downside volatility, and I'm sorry,
- 9:07it takes into account that upside volatility. And we like upside volatility.
- 9:11I don't know anyone who doesn't like upside lolatility. We don't like the down
- 9:15next. Sometimes you got to take the good with the bad, though,
- 9:18right well, I mean that just depends on your role set and whether or
- 9:22not you have an actual diversified portfolio. You know, wallst you would tell
- 9:26you, yes, if you want to get above average returns, you got
- 9:30to take above average risk. I would say, the trend is your friend.
- 9:33Lean in when it's good and have access in place, and when the
- 9:35trend is down, don't ride the roller coaster down to the bottom. There's
- 9:39other stuff that does well in that scenario, and your rule should be able
- 9:43to find, or your quant should be able to find where the opportunities are
- 9:48in that situation. All right, So when we talk again next month thirty
- 9:52you think we'll be looking at a rate cut. It was surprising me if
- 9:54we'll see a rate cut in July. I was. I mean, I
- 9:56would have said that a rate cut today is justify. I don't think they
- 10:01do anything in September, mainly just because they don't want to mess anything up
- 10:07from an election standpoint. If it were me, you know, based on
- 10:11what the data I'm seeing so far, if it continues in the same trajectory,
- 10:16I would probably recommend cuts like at every meeting for the rest of the
- 10:20year. But the Fed's not me, and then they're looking at what they're
- 10:24looking at, and I think that they're too late to the party. I
- 10:28just hope that the bubble's not so big that when it bursts, there's there's
- 10:33you know, too much blood in the streets. Too much, too much
- 10:37is you would basically need boots to pretty much way through it, all right,
- 10:46boots? I mean I don't know like that as much. We've had
- 10:48fifteen years of zero percent interest rates. I might even argue you might need
- 10:52a boat with a paddle because it could get real bad. They made a
- 10:56bigger boat. Huh, yes, yes, little scary. I hope I'm
- 11:01wrong. I hope I'm wrong. Carry, But there was al stuff there.
- 11:05You know, the bigger the bubble get, the worst it is when
- 11:07it pops. So there are ways to make moneys off those scenarios. But
- 11:16it's not buy and hold, that's for sure. All right. Well,
- 11:18Eddie, appreciate you coming on. Just tell us how we connect with you
- 11:22these days. The best place to find you in all Yeah, the easiest
- 11:26thing to do. I go to Eddie or sorry, go to Detectivewealth dot
- 11:31com backslash Eddie dash Gifford that's Eddie with a Y G I F F R
- 11:35D, or going to that old friendly Google type of Eddie Gifford. Eddie
- 11:41was a y Gifford and they'll probably see this interview on there tomorrow, all
- 11:46right, a bunch of other stuff too, so you know, we're here
- 11:50to help. It's a training time and there's a lot of people concerned and
- 11:54that's what we're here for. That's what we'd like to hear. Eddie.
- 11:56Appreciate you coming on. He got question. I'm for Eddie myself. Shoot
- 12:01me an email kl at Carrie LUTs dot com. A link to Eddie's site
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- 12:16a pleasure. We'll talk to you again real soon. Thanks again, Carrie,
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