Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / When Journalism Becomes PR: The Ian Maxwell Feature Nobody Asked For
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. Well, well, well, isn't this rich A Maxwell
- 0:08is lecturing the world about natural justice. You honestly couldn't
- 0:13script irony this thick if you tried. Here, we've got
- 0:16Glayne's own brother, blood of the same dynasty that spent
- 0:19decades cocooned and wealth, privilege and denial, pretending to be
- 0:23the voice of reason while taking potshots at a woman
- 0:26who didn't have the luxury of lawyers, lords, or private
- 0:29jets to hide behind. The sheer nerve of it almost
- 0:32deserves applause.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Almost.
- 0:34Speaker 1: This man, whose sister was convicted of sex trafficking miners,
- 0:39somehow thinks he's the arbiter of truth. Wagon his finger
- 0:42at Virginia Robert's memoir as if it's some great threat
- 0:45to jurisprudence. As you'll see, he drones on about precision
- 0:49and timelines like a courtroom accountant, never mind the grow
- 0:52test crimes that his sister was convicted of enabling and
- 0:55taking part in. He talks about due process while casually ignoring,
- 0:59however and Glane spend decades weaponizing the same system to
- 1:03destroy lives. The hypocrisy is so dense it's practically a
- 1:07black hole. So let's get real. What we're talking about
- 1:10here is not literary criticism. This is a family pr
- 1:15cleanup disguised as moral philosophy. It's damage control with the thesaurus,
- 1:20because deep down, every maxwell knows the family name is radioactive,
- 1:25and no amount of sanctimony or pseudo legal babble will
- 1:29scrub it clean. So here he is wagging his pen
- 1:32at a dead survivor's book like that's the real injustice.
- 1:36And that smug, condescending tone about how Roberts used words
- 1:39like rad or needed a dramatist persona just another sneering
- 1:43example of elitism from a man who's never had to
- 1:46fight for credibility in his life. He can't wrap his
- 1:50head around the fact that survivors don't write with perfect
- 1:52legal precision because they were busy surviving. But to him,
- 1:56it's all about how tidy the narrative looks on paper.
- 1:59It's almost onn the beloe until you remember who you're
- 2:02dealing with, And in the end, the entire argument boils
- 2:05down to this, my sister was convicted, so let's discredit
- 2:09the girl who helped expose her, And even after all
- 2:12the trials, all the evidence, and all the victims, the
- 2:14Maxwell families still can't bring themselves to look in the mirror.
- 2:17They'd rather attack the dead than accept the truth and
- 2:20the entitlement of it. All reeks and it reeks of
- 2:24a man that's so insulated by privilege that he actually
- 2:26believes that he's the one qualified to weigh in on credibility.
- 2:31The same family that stood by while their patriarchs stole
- 2:33billions and crash dampires now wants to lecture the world
- 2:37about ethics. The Maxwells have turned Denial into an art forum.
- 2:40Every scandal, every crime, every life ruined, it's always someone
- 2:44else's fault. He calls Virginia's story fictionalized, like he's uncovering
- 2:49some grand conspiracy, when in reality, he's just parroting the
- 2:52same gaslighting tactics that every abuser and enabler before him
- 2:56have used. He nitpicks the details because he can't face
- 3:00the big picture that his sister and her billionaire partner
- 3:03were serial predators, and he's still run in defense years later,
- 3:06still swinging at ghosts because the truth scorched the family
- 3:10name beyond repair. You can almost feel the resentment dripping
- 3:13from every line. How darrel, working class girl from Florida
- 3:16bring down people with yachts and titles. How dare she
- 3:19speak out about things polite society likes to pretend never happen.
- 3:24It's the same contempt that's kept the elite protected for decades,
- 3:27the same sneer that says she's beneath us so her
- 3:30pain doesn't count. This fool doesn't care about natural justice.
- 3:33He cares about restoring the Maxwell brand, trying to convince
- 3:37the public that his sister's crimes were overblown and are
- 3:40victims unreliable. It's a desperate attempt to rewrite history before
- 3:44the ink on the verdict dries. But no matter how
- 3:47many op eds he writes, no one's buying it. You
- 3:49can't rebrand evil because when the doest settles, the truth
- 3:53still stands. His sister groom children for a predator, His
- 3:56sister lied, his sister got caught, and all the same
- 4:00ammonious drivel in the world won't change that. What's truly
- 4:03stalinist isn't survivors speaking out. It's rich families trying to
- 4:07rewrite the record to save face. Yo, So save the lectures.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Champ.
- 4:12Speaker 1: The world seen what justice looks like. When your sister's
- 4:14holding the keys. It looks like bribes, cover ups and NDAs.
- 4:18It looks like power buying silence, And it looks exactly
- 4:22like this column. Another privileged voice trying to talk down
- 4:26to the dead because the living won't stop asking questions.
- 4:30The Maxwell family doesn't get to decide who deserves belief anymore.
- 4:34They forfeited that right the minute they helped the monster
- 4:37operate in plain sight. And for her brother to sit
- 4:40here moralizing about credibility after everything Delane did, after everything
- 4:44she was convicted of, is beyond shameless, it's obscene. So no,
- 4:49we're not taking lectures on precision or truth from the
- 4:52House of Maxwell. Not when your sister's crimes are written
- 4:56in court transcripts and your family's denial is inked in
- 4:59every word you publish. You can posture all you want,
- 5:02but history has already rendered its verdict, and no spin,
- 5:06no revision, no smug essay can change that. This article
- 5:11was published by The Spectator headlined don't take Virginia Roberts
- 5:16memoir at face value. The author of this article, Ian Maxwell,
- 5:23six months after she took her own life at age
- 5:25forty one, Virginia roberts memoir and Nobody's Girl, written with
- 5:29her professional collaborator Amy Wallace, has been published. It's bound
- 5:34to evoke distinct and intensified feelings and readers because the
- 5:37account of her suffering couple with the manner of her
- 5:40death increases the emotional impact of the narrative. Or people
- 5:44might know the story. Mister Maxwell, I know that your
- 5:47sister was a vile, disgusting predator and that your sister
- 5:51was directly responsible for the pain and suffering of countless girls.
- 5:56Probably a good idea, just to own up to it.
- 6:00The writing style and tone of a book feel authentic. Roberts,
- 6:04who was born in nineteen eighty three, uses words like
- 6:07rad meaning awesome or cool, and stoner dude to describe
- 6:11someone who smokes a lot of weed, pluster, constant reliance
- 6:15on music to make the world make sense, seem very
- 6:18zenial as late Generation xers or early millennials are sometimes
- 6:24called whatever that means? Or how about just Generation X?
- 6:29Is this guy really going to try and posture and
- 6:32talk about popular culture? Mister stiff upper lip himself, mister
- 6:36Magoo's brother. Here's an idea, bro go eat some spotted
- 6:40dick and shut your yap. If Roberts is to be believed,
- 6:45one could not fail surely to be moved by her account,
- 6:48which is quite graphic in places, and by the arc
- 6:51of a tragic life that is chronicled in four parts
- 6:54with emotative titles daughter, Prisoner, survivor, and warrior. There's no index, however,
- 7:00so the book could have been done with a dramatist
- 7:02persona to help keep track of who is in large
- 7:05cast of characters. Above all, it would have benefited from
- 7:09a detailed timeline of her life and the key events
- 7:12that she describes. Oh that's how you wanted the book
- 7:15to be formatted, mister Maxwell. Here's an idea. Sit your
- 7:19dumbass sister down, bring her some Chick fil A, and
- 7:21have her write a memoir. We're all very interested to
- 7:24see what the bipedal serpent has to say. By the way,
- 7:28you guys, ever, pay back that money that your dad stole.
- 7:31Maybe you should put together a not at about that precision,
- 7:35particularly to accurately identifying named abusers, when and where the
- 7:39alleged abuse took place, and crucially how old she was
- 7:43at the relevant times. Is not However, the author's strong
- 7:46point when it comes to standing up her narrative version
- 7:49of events. This precision really matters in the sexual abuse accusations.
- 7:54Robert's levels who cares. You may ask if she was sixteen,
- 7:58seventeen or eighteen when she met Jeffrey Epstein, who.
- 8:01Speaker 2: She accused of years of abuse.
- 8:03Speaker 1: It isn't a trivial difference, however, when it comes to
- 8:07statutory rape charges. At my sister Glaine's trial, as Roberts
- 8:12herself notes to her manifest disappointment, two of the accusers
- 8:16testified only after the judge instructed jurors that their description
- 8:19of alleged sexual conduct could not be used to convict
- 8:22Glane of the crimes charged. Kate was above the age
- 8:26of consent in the relevant jurisdiction, and Annie was not
- 8:29considered a minor in New Mexico where the alleged sexual
- 8:32contact had occurred sixteen years old. Sixteen years old, and
- 8:37that's the defense you're going to use. That is some sick,
- 8:41degenerate shit right there. And that's the kind of defense
- 8:45that you have to fall back on when you don't
- 8:47have anything else to go to. Right We're talking about
- 8:51a real degenerate kind of fucking answer here. Ah, well
- 8:54she was sixteen, that's cool, no big deal. Well what
- 8:58about the other abuse of Annie? What about the fact
- 9:02that you got pictures or your sister, I should say,
- 9:04had pictures of Annie in various states of undress. This
- 9:09guy really thinks that nobody paid attention during the trial.
- 9:13You're not going to rewrite history. Why don't we go
- 9:15back and read those impact statements? And if your sister
- 9:18was so innocent, then why is she sitting in a
- 9:20jail cell right now? Why was she convicted of the
- 9:24crimes that she was accused of? If these witnesses were
- 9:28so weak, if the witnesses were so terrible and bad,
- 9:32why is your lame ass sister sitting in prison right now?
- 9:35Ian Maxwell Roberts had previously accused Alan Dershowitz, the sometime
- 9:40Epstein lawyer, of abusing her no fewer than six times,
- 9:44including in the Netflix series Filthy Rich, but later admitted
- 9:47she may have been mistaken. Yet in her memoir, she writes,
- 9:51some critics have insinuated that there's no way I could
- 9:53remember these men. But to them, I say simply this,
- 9:57When a man has been on top of you, his
- 9:59faith just inches from your own. You remember them. But
- 10:03if that's true, how could she he have been mistaken
- 10:05about Dershowitz I already explained this. She's giving you a
- 10:10hint right here with what she's saying that she would
- 10:13never forget the people who did what they did, and
- 10:18Virginia was sick of the lawsuits. She had nothing else
- 10:22to prove. She put all these names out here years
- 10:25and years and years ago, and it was up to
- 10:28the authorities to pursue them, to open investigations at the
- 10:31very least and look deeper into the matter. They didn't
- 10:34do any of that. So at some point you have
- 10:36to say to yourself, enough is enough, right, And when
- 10:38you read in between the lines of what Virginia's really saying,
- 10:42that's certainly what it looks like to me. Now, look,
- 10:44I don't know that for sure, and I won't sit
- 10:46here and even begin to speak for Virginia or what
- 10:49she meant. But when you read in between the lines,
- 10:52and you've talked of Virginia before and you've heard what
- 10:55she had to say, sure seems to me that she
- 10:58was suffering from fatigue when it comes to the lawsuits
- 11:01and just all of the stress and trauma surrounding the
- 11:04whole situation, And I think the evidence is strengthened for
- 11:07all of that when we see the end result of
- 11:09what happened with Virginia and her taking her own life.
- 11:13At some point, enough is enough?
- 11:14Speaker 2: Right?
- 11:15Speaker 1: How much can one person shoulder When it comes to
- 11:20Robert's first hand account of her time in Epstein and
- 11:22Maxwell's orbit, Ammy Wallace, in her preface states it was
- 11:26supported by thousands of pages of public core documents, including
- 11:29sworn depositions containing the full names of many of the
- 11:32men whom Virginia alleged she had been trafficked to. Their
- 11:36contents are supported by numerous other sources, including published books
- 11:41on the subject by authors such as Miami Herald, Julie K. Brown,
- 11:44and Virginia's former attorney Bradley Edwards. As if the sheer
- 11:48quantity of such material and the implied quality of the
- 11:51names in support our standalone proof of Robert's overall veracity,
- 11:56this is a surprisingly stalinist approach to corroborate, Buddy. We've
- 12:02been through how many court documents here on this podcast,
- 12:05how many depositions, how many different articles, and they all
- 12:09lead to the same place. Your gross ass sister was
- 12:12guilty and all the shit that Virginia was talking about
- 12:15was going on, so let's see the evidence of it
- 12:19not being true. And speaking of evidence, your skafuza of
- 12:23his sister had every chance in the world to get
- 12:25up on that stand and deny what happened. Why didn't
- 12:28she do it? Why didn't you're a boy the Joe
- 12:30exotic of the Windsor family defend his name because they're
- 12:34fucking guilty, right, Ian Maxwell. There aren't many things that
- 12:37I dislike more than people that punch down. I cannot
- 12:41stamp people like Ian Maxwell who think that they can
- 12:44use their money, their power, their prestige to bully people.
- 12:47Now that might work with other folks, that shit is
- 12:50day around here, because I promise you there is not
- 12:53one bone in my body that is intimidated by any
- 12:57of these people that took part in what was going on,
- 13:00not one of them. And that goes for all their
- 13:01re pundits too. Like I say, I'm not hard to find.
- 13:04You want that smoke, come get it? You know, six
- 13:06years on, for some reason, none of these motherfuckers ever
- 13:10take me up on that offer, though, I mean hell,
- 13:12they wouldn't even respond to me when I showed up
- 13:14at Geffrey Epstein's house. So I guess that tells you
- 13:16everything you need to know about all of these tough
- 13:19guys in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit. Tough when it has to
- 13:22do with beating up on girls, tough when it comes
- 13:24to intimidating people, but not so tough when people are
- 13:28willing to stand up to them and tell them to
- 13:30go get fucked. Because, make no mistake, that's what I've
- 13:33been telling this whole entire organization, this whole conglomarati, for
- 13:38six years, and I'll continue to tell them that, and
- 13:41they're in't a damn thing they can.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Do about it.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Roberts herself states in the introduction in her memoir, until now,
- 13:46I have never told my whole story. Doing so allows
- 13:49me to fill in gaps, to provide context where it
- 13:52has been sorely lacking, and in key places, to set
- 13:55the record straight. She confirms, however, that she did in
- 13:58that complete a one hundred thirty nine page typewritten manuscript
- 14:02entitled The Billionaire's Playboy Club. Although unpublished, it found its
- 14:06way into the court record, and that's why I'm sharing
- 14:09that with you as well. You deserve the whole story,
- 14:12and then from there you can make your own decisions
- 14:14about what you believe and what you don't believe. I've
- 14:17never felt like I have to prove anything to anybody
- 14:19about this story. For me, it's about providing you with
- 14:22the facts, with receipts, and then you can look into
- 14:25it yourself, and if you believe it, great, If you don't,
- 14:27that's cool too. The context she then provides about the
- 14:32version of her life is to blame the Mail on
- 14:34Sunday reporter Sharon Churcher for advising her in twenty eleven
- 14:38twenty twelve to fictionalize parts of the narrative to avoid
- 14:41being sued. Like that wouldn't happen, Like she wouldn't have
- 14:45been sued. It was good advice, especially back then. This,
- 14:51she says, accounts for why my third encounter with Prince
- 14:54Andrew occurred at Zoro Ranch in New Mexico, not where
- 14:57it actually occurred the Caribbean. It wasn't until twenty nineteen
- 15:02that Robert's own lawyers had to admit in court documents
- 15:05that the manuscript was indeed fictionalized. No different than what
- 15:09Glenn Maxwell has to say about everything right a complete
- 15:13work of fiction. You know your serial liar's sister who
- 15:16was charged with perjury and would have been convicted of
- 15:19it if they didn't drop those charges. Oh yeah, that's
- 15:22same person, and you have the stones to show up
- 15:24talking about fictionalized it's from this disclaim memoir that Julie K.
- 15:28Brown directly quotes Robert's verbatim or a paraphrases her in
- 15:32her twenty twenty one book, Perversion of Justice. The book
- 15:36is dedicated to Roberts, which might explain why Brown was
- 15:39happy to corroborate her version of events to Wallace. Is
- 15:43it any wonder, therefore, that Robert's credibility issues were one
- 15:47reason she was neither named as a victim nor called
- 15:50as a witness in my sister's prosecution. She claimed that
- 15:53she was not called as a witness because she would
- 15:55have been a distraction. But that's a self serving lie. Again,
- 15:59this dud's talking about self serving and lies from a Maxwell.
- 16:04Have you ever told the truth, Ian Maxwell about anything?
- 16:07Speaker 2: Ever?
- 16:09Speaker 1: And the reason that Virginia wasn't used as a witness
- 16:12is because the prosecution and the scope of that prosecution
- 16:17was very narrow. There was no Rico, so they went
- 16:20with the cases that they knew were rock solid for them.
- 16:24What Ian Maxwell forgets to mention is that it was
- 16:27the Glenn Maxwell and Virginia Roberts lawsuit that opened the
- 16:30door for all of this, you know, the one that
- 16:34Glenn Maxwell lost or she was proven to be a
- 16:37liar time and time again. And that's why I find
- 16:39this whole narrative that's being pitched here by Ian Maxwell
- 16:42wild as hell. Your sister is the biggest liar in history,
- 16:47and you're actually gonna try and paint somebody else with
- 16:49that sam brush. At Glainne's sentencing hearing, despite not featuring
- 16:54in her trial at any capacity, Roberts, who has never
- 16:57cross examined under oath in any legal proceeding. That's a
- 17:00lie Ghlainne Maxwell's lawyers cross examiner for the deposition. What
- 17:05are you even talking about right now? How many times
- 17:08did Virginia Roberts sit down with the authorities, not her fault,
- 17:11they didn't proceed U ginormous twatwaffle, The statement itself could
- 17:17not be subjected to cross examination, and Robert's most serious
- 17:20and untested allegations at a time to Glaine's sentence.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your sister's the victim.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Poor Glaine, You're lucky you're not sitting in a cell
- 17:29next to her, because I have my doubts that you
- 17:32didn't know what was going on when it comes.
- 17:34Speaker 2: To your pops, how about that?
- 17:38Speaker 1: Roberts frequently writes lines such as I didn't want money,
- 17:41I wanted justice, and mentions her charity sore you have
- 17:44despite having reportedly received more than twenty million in settlements,
- 17:48including at least two million from Prince Andrew, they won't
- 17:51even admit the amount with Prince Andrew. Imagine being that obtuse,
- 17:55Imagine being that ridiculous. Well, that's just reality. If your
- 17:59name's Maxwell. The charity was never fully established, lost its
- 18:06tax exempt status due to inactivity, and has no record
- 18:09of charitable giving. Nearly three quarters of the way through
- 18:12the book, readers are asked if they can remember America
- 18:15before the me Too movement, which reached its apex in
- 18:19late twenty seventeen in the pursuit of justice. Me Too
- 18:22was a wave that Roberts, guided by her ruthlessly adept advisors,
- 18:27skillfully and above all profitably, rode to their mutual benefit.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Bullshit.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Nobody in pink hats showed up for Glenn Maxwell's trial.
- 18:36In fact, everybody ignored what was going on, and it
- 18:39was people like me who were talking about this. And
- 18:42I'm certainly not a me too person, So save the bullshit.
- 18:45It had nothing to do with me too. It had
- 18:47to do with the fact that your sister and her
- 18:49disgusting egg dick buddy were hurting kids. That's what it
- 18:53had to do with. And not just kids, by the way,
- 18:55other people. Let's not act like just because somebody is
- 18:58an adult, they can't trafficked or abused. While that movement
- 19:02has clearly raised increased public awareness of sexual misconduct, it
- 19:05has also generated and an important debate over the erosion
- 19:09of core principles of natural justice. The bully pulpit of
- 19:12social media too often bypasses traditional mechanisms of due process,
- 19:17with allegations leading to devastating reputational consequences before a formal
- 19:21investigation or hearing can occur. Your sister had a hearing,
- 19:25she was found guilty. Prince Andrew was given the chance
- 19:27to defend himself. He decided to settle. So what are
- 19:30you even talking about right now? Who hasn't been given
- 19:33due process? And speaking of due process, since he's such
- 19:36a big fan of it, I guess he'd add no
- 19:38problem if there was an investigation launched into Prince Andrew,
- 19:41because you know, due process and all. That's what he's
- 19:43worried about, right right. By May of twenty twenty presidential
- 19:48candidate as he was then, Joe Biden, facing allegations from
- 19:51a former staffer of sexual harassment twenty seven years earlier,
- 19:55produced a more nuanced interpretation of the original METWO slogan
- 20:00Believe Women when he said, there's a belief that women
- 20:03should be heard, that they deserve to be treated with
- 20:05dignity and respect, and that their story shouldn't be subject
- 20:09to appropriate inquiry and scrutiny. So we're going to quote
- 20:14Joe Biden. Now, okay, I guess did Joe Biden actually
- 20:18give us that quote or was it a stunt double?
- 20:21Even if only parts of Robert's account are true, she
- 20:23is still a person who suffered and deserves sympathy. Oh yeah,
- 20:27nice qualifier at the end there, Ian Maxwell. But that
- 20:30cannot excuse the fact that she accused innocent people of
- 20:33serious crimes and destroyed reputations and lives. Her claims, like anyone's,
- 20:38must be carefully vetted to approach this book with the
- 20:41assumption that she is telling the truth necessarily means imposing
- 20:45a presumption of guilt on everyone she is accused of
- 20:48sexual assault, placing the burden on them to prove their innocence.
- 20:52This is contrary to all the principles of natural justice.
- 20:56Every single one of them, for the most part, has
- 20:58ponied up money.
- 21:00Speaker 2: What do you even mean.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Brunel ended up getting arrested, Glenn Dubin ponied up money,
- 21:05Leon Black ponied up money. Just Daley ponied up money.
- 21:10Prince Andrew ponied up money. Your sister sitting in prison,
- 21:13Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for his crimes. What are you
- 21:16even talking about right now? Because if there was any
- 21:20natural justice in the world, your sister wouldn't be looking
- 21:23at twenty years, she'd be looking at a life sentence.
- 21:27So let's just call this bullshit. What it is a
- 21:29brother that's swinging blindly in defense of a fallen empire,
- 21:32a man so desperate to protect what's left of the
- 21:34family name that he's willing to drag a dead woman
- 21:37through the mud just to keep pretending that his sister
- 21:40was misunderstood. Instead of monstrous, you want to talk about
- 21:43natural justice. Natural justice is watching the powerful finally answer
- 21:47for what they did. It's survivors refusing to shut up
- 21:50no matter how many smug columns get printed to gaslight them.
- 21:54It's the truth outlasting money, titles and bloodlines, because no
- 21:58matter how many essays you write, no matter how many
- 22:00deflections you print, no matter how many times you twist
- 22:03the narrative, the world remembers what your sister did, So
- 22:07spare us the moral theater. The Maxwells had their chance
- 22:10to tell the truth, and they chose to lie. Virginia
- 22:13told hers and paid for it with her peace, her sanity,
- 22:16and in the end, her life. That's something no family
- 22:19of privilege could ever understand. And when it's all said
- 22:23and done, when history looks back at this whole sordid mess,
- 22:27it won't remember the pompous columns or the spin. It'll
- 22:30remember who prayed, who enabled, who covered, and who spoke up. Anyway,
- 22:35so take your selective outrage, your crocodile tears for due process,
- 22:39your tired revisionism, and shove it right next to your
- 22:42sister's rolodex of monsters. Because justice is I'm played anymore.
- 22:47It's pissed off, wide awake, and it's coming for every
- 22:50last one of you who thought power could buy redemption.
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