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Ohio State Football Practice: 5 Things We Learned About The Buckeye Offense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, August second, I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Tom Or the Akron game in twenty nine days,
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Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in one hundred and twenty days.
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Speaker 1: I remember when those numbers were in the three hundreds.
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Speaker 1: We are down under a month to the Akron game.
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Speaker 1: It is starting to feel like the Ohio State football
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Speaker 1: season is.
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Speaker 3: Really going to get here.
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Speaker 1: Something else that helps with that is we got a
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Speaker 1: chance to watch Ohio State practice at the Woody Hayes
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Speaker 1: Athletic Center on Thursday, but back there again on Friday.
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Speaker 1: Going to be there with our buddy Kevin noon if
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Speaker 1: Buckehuddle dot com. Kevin, I know every year it feels
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Speaker 1: like the first practice of the season is you know,
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Speaker 1: you look forward to it. It's exciting, it's great to
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Speaker 1: be back out there and you see everyone again, and
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Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to read too much into it,
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Speaker 1: but you know this is this was a practice where
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of excitement around that practice. I
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Speaker 1: mean having fans there certainly helped, but it was definitely
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Speaker 1: kind of you get the sense, Okay, yeah, really, Ohio
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Speaker 1: State football is really about to come back.
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Speaker 2: You say, fans, I say customers. There were plenty of
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Speaker 2: customers there that paid into uh the nil collective, which
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Speaker 2: is good to see as Ohio State is trying to
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Speaker 2: keep up with everybody in terms of collective dollars and everything.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, excitement was was was real, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: the Ohio State's team looked really nice coming out, but
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Speaker 2: you know, coming out from the indoor to the outdoor
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Speaker 2: and you know, guys look like freaks and everything else.
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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, we're not going to see a
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Speaker 2: ton on on on day one. And that's because the
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Speaker 2: n C two A mandates how many padded practices you
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Speaker 2: can have. You have to have a couple in shorts
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Speaker 2: and then you can get shells and everything else before
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Speaker 2: you can get up to full pads. And obviously you
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Speaker 2: have to kind of balance things as well when it
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Speaker 2: when it comes to uh, you don't you don't want
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Speaker 2: to sit there and take your own players out, if
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We hear, we hear stories
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Speaker 2: all the time about so and so it has been lost.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Ohio State lost TC Caffe, the walk on
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Speaker 2: running back who figured would have figured into the depth chart.
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Speaker 2: He's lost for the year. But Uh, yeah, the excitement
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Speaker 2: was high. And you know, for us media types, we
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Speaker 2: haven't seen each other. I mean, we did get to
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Speaker 2: see a lot of people in Indianapolis have big ten
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Speaker 2: media days, but it's kind of a homecoming for us
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Speaker 2: all too. Not so much for you and myself and
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Speaker 2: Tony because we see each other all the time even
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Speaker 2: though we live nowhere close to one another. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: it feels good, it feels right. As Martha Stewart say,
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Speaker 2: it's a good thing.
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Speaker 1: It is a good thing to be back and to
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Speaker 1: have a football season right around the corner. And you know, again,
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Speaker 1: it's day one of fall practice. And I always say
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Speaker 1: day one a springball, day one a fall practice. My
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Speaker 1: takeaway is always the same thing, which is, in a
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Speaker 1: couple of days we'll find out what this all means.
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Speaker 1: And it's really more interesting in terms of here's where
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Speaker 1: everything started a week or two from now, what has changed.
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Speaker 1: That's what day one is most useful for. However, Kevin,
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Speaker 1: I know you were thinking right before we started started
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Speaker 1: hitting record, he's going to you know, he's gonna want
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Speaker 1: to talk about the quarterbacks.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I want to talk about the quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: Certainly, certainly we have enough data now to say extremely
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Speaker 1: confident exactly what the pecking order is going to be
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Speaker 1: for game number one, right, maybe maybe maybe not. But
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Speaker 1: what what did you see out of the quarterbacks day one?
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think that with Will
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Speaker 2: Howard it was sons out, guns out. He was, you know,
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Speaker 2: sonning himself and trying to get a little bit of
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Speaker 2: a farmer's tan.
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Speaker 3: It looked like.
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Speaker 2: But you know, Will Howard looks like a full grown
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Speaker 2: man out there. And it wasn't like we didn't see
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Speaker 2: that as much in the spring, but you could sit
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Speaker 2: there and see him in comparison to some of the
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Speaker 2: other quarterbacks, even some of the older quarterbacks, and say,
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Speaker 2: this is a much more physical type of running back
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Speaker 2: than what we have seen the past couple few years.
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Speaker 2: And that's not taking anything away from McCord, you know,
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Speaker 2: c J. Stroud, justin Fields, I mean the latter two.
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Speaker 2: For the love of God, don't run. We have no depth.
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Speaker 2: Please do not run. We have no depth. Al McCord, Oh,
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Speaker 2: he's a willing runner, but he wasn't really necessary a
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Speaker 2: consistent runner. I think what we see from Will Howard
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Speaker 2: is at least he has the body. Now does he
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Speaker 2: have the acumen to do all of that. We'll I
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Speaker 2: pop in the k State film and everything else, and
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Speaker 2: I see it. But you saw him there. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you saw them all kind of you know, yucking it
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Speaker 2: up and having fun going through. You know, again, you're
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Speaker 2: not going out there and having to throw a bunch
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Speaker 2: of complex passes here on practice number one, so it's
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Speaker 2: still fun. But make no mistake, these guys are all
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Speaker 2: competing against each other to be the number one and
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Speaker 2: where they're going to be in the pecking order. And
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Speaker 2: when you have a five man quarterback room, somebody's going
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Speaker 2: to have to be number five. So you know, you
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Speaker 2: don't want to be that guy. You've got to outwork everybody.
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Speaker 2: And that's you know, that's kind of a good thing
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Speaker 2: to have.
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Speaker 1: And week one of fall practice, before they really dive
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Speaker 1: into it too far, they really kind of balance the
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Speaker 1: reps more or less equally among those five guys, so
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Speaker 1: you've got a chance to see all five guys. I
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Speaker 1: don't think if we're back at practice in two weeks
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Speaker 1: that it's necessarily going to be quite as evenly spread
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Speaker 1: in terms of reps among those five guys. But it
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Speaker 1: felt like just about everyone had their moments, and this
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Speaker 1: is you know, there was no eleven on eleven like
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Speaker 1: full pass rush or all no contact jerseys. There was
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Speaker 1: a lot of seven on seven that we saw, which
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Speaker 1: that you know, if you take the pass rush out
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Speaker 1: of the equation, that makes the quarterbacks job a lot easier.
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Speaker 1: But there were some impressive plays. There was a long
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Speaker 1: pass from Will Howard down the sideline to JJ Smith
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Speaker 1: which ended up being a long touchdown pass. Devin Brown
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Speaker 1: had a nice one to Carnel Tait. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: saw flashes out of all these guys. But one of
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Speaker 1: the things that was really intriguing to me was Julian Sayan,
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Speaker 1: who is obviously a true freshman and probably in that
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Speaker 1: more three four five end of things in terms of
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Speaker 1: the quarterback packing order right now than you know, in
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Speaker 1: the race for number one. But he was just very consistent,
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Speaker 1: very impressive. Didn't make the big mistake at least what
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Speaker 1: I was watching, And Tony said as much on the
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Speaker 1: live show that we did after the practice as well
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Speaker 1: for him that that you didn't see the big mistake.
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Speaker 1: And when Ryan Day is evaluating quarterbacks, the guy who doesn't,
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Speaker 1: you know it, just doesn't make the mistake. He should
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Speaker 1: have just make consistently good decisions. That's one of those
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Speaker 1: things that you know, it wasn't the flashiest practice for
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Speaker 1: Julian Saying, but it felt like that's kind of what
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff might be looking for in some ways.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the difference between a four star quarterback and
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Speaker 2: a five star quarterback? Obviously we can go through harm,
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Speaker 2: talent and you know, vision and everything else, but I
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Speaker 2: think a level of good consistency, you know, consistent, being
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Speaker 2: consistently bad is not necessarily going to be what's going
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Speaker 2: to get you a five star ranking. But you know,
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Speaker 2: I think that Julian Saying has all the pieces. He
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Speaker 2: is maybe not going in his first real collegiate practice.
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Speaker 2: I'm not taking anything away from spring ball, but I
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Speaker 2: always am much more excited about fall than spring, just
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Speaker 2: because of the proximity to the season and everything else. Uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, he he's shown that he is a consistent guy.
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Speaker 2: He had the arm, talent, he has all those things.
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Speaker 2: But you don't necessarily have to go out there and
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Speaker 2: and try to win the job in day one. But
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Speaker 2: if you go out there and you just royally stink,
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Speaker 2: you you could lose the job in day one. A
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Speaker 2: lot easier than you can win the job at day one.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, it is. It was you know, you didn't
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Speaker 3: know one.
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Speaker 1: No one won the starting quarterback job on Thursday. But
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Speaker 1: I think there were some signs of encouraging things for
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Speaker 1: Ohio State at the quarterback position. I know that's some
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Speaker 1: spot where there's been some concerns. I didn't walk away
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Speaker 1: more concern than I walked in, certainly, so that's that's
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Speaker 1: probably a good thing. And I think that's probably true
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Speaker 1: for a lot of other folks who were at practice
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Speaker 1: on Thursday as well. One spot where there is even
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Speaker 1: more concern about that than the quarterback is on the
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Speaker 1: offensive line. And there was one Buck guy who was
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Speaker 1: missing in action on Thursday, that is Carson Hinzman.
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Speaker 3: Nothing the big to worry about. He was not out there.
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Speaker 1: We noticed he wasn't out there, and an Ohio State
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Speaker 1: spokesman said, you know, no big deal, he'll be back.
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Speaker 1: And then Ryan day afterwards said just had a little
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Speaker 1: bit of an illness and was not feeling good and
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Speaker 1: the training staff sent him home. He is expected back
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Speaker 1: on Friday, but without Carson Hinsman there, you saw Tiger
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Speaker 1: Shabola with the ones and you know, the offensive line. Again,
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of seven on seven. I don't know
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Speaker 1: that we saw any like true defensive line trying to
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Speaker 1: pass rush against the offensive line kind of stuff. But
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Speaker 1: you know, it seems like listening to Ryan day after
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Speaker 1: practice that if it's Tager Shabol at right guard, they
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Speaker 1: feel reasonably confident about that. And you know, if if
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Speaker 1: he's one of your options and you get Carson Hinsman
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Speaker 1: back and Carson Hinsman is a better option, that you
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Speaker 1: know that they they feel like the answer to.
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Speaker 3: That right guard spot is obviously on this roster.
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Speaker 2: In this Yeah, my cat is meowing in the background,
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Speaker 2: so apologies for the wild wild kingdom going on here. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think that Carson Hinzman has I think that all
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Speaker 2: things being equal, he is the clubhouse leader at this point.
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Speaker 2: Tagra or somebody else is going to have to beat
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Speaker 2: him out for that job. And I don't I don't
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Speaker 2: think that the line is going to be something that
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Speaker 2: on August twenty eighth, a couple of days before the
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Speaker 2: Akron game, that Ohio State's going to say, well, this
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Speaker 2: is our line, and this is absolutely the line we're
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Speaker 2: going to roll with for the entirety of the season.
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Speaker 2: I think that there could be position battles that go
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Speaker 2: on for several weeks there. I don't think you want
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Speaker 2: to necessarily have a case of where you're doing it
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Speaker 2: throughout the entire season and everybody is worried that one,
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Speaker 2: you know, one bad play is going to mean riding
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Speaker 2: the pine or anything else like that. But yeah, you
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Speaker 2: want to see Carson Hinzman get healthy from you know,
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Speaker 2: this the small illness that kept them out of out
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Speaker 2: of practice on Thursday and be able to get back
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Speaker 2: out there. But you know, I think it's good for
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Speaker 2: Tegra and others everybody to move up a spot and
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Speaker 2: be able to see some more reps. Even though remember
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Speaker 2: we're talking about practice, tumba practice, and this is the
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Speaker 2: first practice. So again when it comes like young guys,
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Speaker 2: you're trying to have to show them that left is
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Speaker 2: left and right is right, and up and down the
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Speaker 2: black and white and everything else. And for veterans, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think you also understand what the first practice is.
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Speaker 2: It's just kind of making sure that you you're practicing
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Speaker 2: to practice when we get into the next week. When
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Speaker 2: we get into the following week, stuff gets real and
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Speaker 2: then we can finally get into install for Akron and
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Speaker 2: then you know, you kind of want to have an
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Speaker 2: idea of where things stand, and.
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Speaker 1: We will have an idea where things stand a little
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Speaker 1: better on Friday. But one thing that I think everyone
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Speaker 1: knows where it stands is Jeremiah smith Brew freshman wide receiver.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day was asked about him again after practice on
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Speaker 1: Thursday and said, you know, just trying to not get
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Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves with anything, and you know, hasn't stepped
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Speaker 1: on a field or a real game yet and all
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Very clearly, one of these starting
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Speaker 1: three made another big play, made kind of consistent, you know,
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Speaker 1: just consistently made plays. And I felt every time I
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Speaker 1: was watching him and they didn't throw on the ball, like, well,
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Speaker 1: why did you not?
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Speaker 3: It's right there?
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Speaker 1: Why would you throw to someone else? And there are
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Speaker 1: plenty of other talented wide receivers of this team. Book
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Speaker 1: is proably be a first round pick next time, this
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Speaker 1: time next year. Colonel Tate had a fantastic practice, but man,
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Speaker 1: oh man, it was just it's just every every time
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Speaker 1: we get to see a practice, he always does something
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Speaker 1: that you kind of go, wow, that was really cool,
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Speaker 1: and you know he just kind of it just keeps
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Speaker 1: rolling the You know, I think everyone is trying to
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Speaker 1: sort of ride the brake a little bit on the
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Speaker 1: hype train, and it just kind of every time we
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Speaker 1: get to see a practice, he gives your reason to
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Speaker 1: kind of go, well, you can't ride the break too hard.
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Speaker 2: Well, everybody just stopped talking about him until he does something. Well,
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Speaker 2: he has not done something in a game because he's
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Speaker 2: not had the opportunity to play in a game, but
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Speaker 2: I can assure you he's done something in practice, multiple
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Speaker 2: things in multiple practices. Because Jeremiah Smith is an alien.
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Speaker 2: These types of players do not exist. We have been
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Speaker 2: blessed in being observers of Ohio State to see some
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Speaker 2: tremendous wide receivers through the years. But Jeremiah Smith is
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Speaker 2: just different. When he ran out, I'm like, he's just
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Speaker 2: he's more physically developed than almost everybody in that room,
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Speaker 2: if not everybody in that room. And he's just a
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Speaker 2: just a kid, He's just a pup. But you know, start,
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Speaker 2: you know, start your little mental DVR file of Jeremiah
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Speaker 2: Smith plays now, because three and gone, three and gone,
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Speaker 2: and that one is probably I'm sure that I would
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Speaker 2: have to bet a million dollars to get a do
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Speaker 2: to get a dollar back on that with Vegas odds,
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Speaker 2: because this is somebody who has all the tools, and
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Speaker 2: there's we've seen players who have all the tools and
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Speaker 2: maybe don't have the you know, the the mental drive
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Speaker 2: and everything else. But that's not the case with Jeremiah.
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Speaker 2: It would be easy for him to roll in and
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Speaker 2: be like, I'm a five star, check me out. You know,
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Speaker 2: he's out there putting in the grind. He's going to
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Speaker 2: be the guy who's going to be Marvin Harrison has
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Speaker 2: handed the Monarch machine to Jeremiah Smith.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a fitting air, I think, to the Monarch machine
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Speaker 1: and for sure one other five star true freshman wide
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Speaker 1: receiver that I do want to quickly mention, Mylon Graham
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Speaker 1: also looked very much ready to potentially contribute this year,
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Speaker 1: just bigger and stronger than you would have expected for
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Speaker 1: a true freshman that just arrived in June. So we
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Speaker 1: did not get to see a ton of Hymn today.
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Speaker 1: We will get a chance to see more in the
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Speaker 1: coming days. Keep you posted on how he looks in
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Speaker 1: practice and as well as the West the rest of
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Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Before I let you go, Kevin, do
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Speaker 1: one I mentioned real quickly, we're kind of hitting all
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Speaker 1: the offensive players today, offensive side of the ball today
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Speaker 1: because on Friday we're gonna be talking to Jim Knowles
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Speaker 1: and we'll focus more on the defense on that show.
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Speaker 1: But really just kind of talking offense today. Not a
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Speaker 1: ton to see out of the tight ends. There's you know,
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Speaker 1: they were out there a little bit and you know,
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Speaker 1: gee Scott looks like he's still number one there. But
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Speaker 1: as far as the running backs, you just sort of
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Speaker 1: got a sense. You just saw little flashes out of
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Speaker 1: Trevon Henderson, out of Quinn, Shawn Judkins, just little things
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Speaker 1: here and there where It's just like, oh boy, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not the deepest room they've ever had, but boy,
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Speaker 1: in terms of the top of the d line talent,
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Speaker 1: at the top of that of that pecking order, that
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Speaker 1: depth chart, this is one of the better Ohio State
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Speaker 1: running back rooms I can remember.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Trevion Henderson, he just has to stay healthy and win.
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Speaker 2: Shawn Judkins, if you can, if he could be seventy
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Speaker 2: percent of what he is in n C two A
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, that would be something there with his
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Speaker 2: spin move. But yeah, the top end of this room
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Speaker 2: is is crazy good right now, there's a pretty sharp
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Speaker 2: drop off in terms of experience from two to three.
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Speaker 2: James Peoples is probably number three, the true freshman out
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Speaker 2: of San Antonio. Then you have Sam Williams Dixon and
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Speaker 2: then Caleb Downs. I mean, I don't, I don't know
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Speaker 2: at that point what happens. Ryan Day did say something
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Speaker 2: during his press conference about you know, the depth of
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Speaker 2: the room and everything else, and you know, not remembering
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Speaker 2: when you've needed five, but I mean I remember years
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Speaker 2: at Ohio State has had five, but that those were
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Speaker 2: also years at Dallan a was part of the team
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Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, you know, I hate to belabor
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Speaker 2: the point, they wouldn't play them. So yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: must protect Travian, must protect quin Sewn at all costs.
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Speaker 1: Well, and they do have other talented guys in that room.
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Speaker 1: Tccafee obviously out for the year with the knee injury.
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Speaker 1: You do have James Peeples who looked very much looks
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Speaker 1: the part as well, probably someone who's going to get
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Speaker 1: a decent number of carries this year. Got Sam Williams Dixon,
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Speaker 1: who's probably a little bit more of a project physically,
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Speaker 1: but you know, definitely is someone who could have a
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Speaker 1: role as sort of an all purpose back out of
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Speaker 1: the backfield. I believe that's how the recruiting services used
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Speaker 1: to classify guys like that. There's definitely gonna be a
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Speaker 1: role for all four of those guys, So I'll have
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Speaker 1: plenty more to watch on Friday, and then heading into
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Speaker 1: the meat of summer or fall camp. I guess it's well,
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Speaker 1: it's summer camp, but you know, we call it fall
15:52
Speaker 1: camp because it's you know, falls almost here. I'm looking
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Speaker 1: forward to fall being here. It was a little it
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