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Emerald FlowShow #91: Believe in Naoya · The Emerald FlowShow

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to episode 91 of the Emerald Flow Show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Gerard
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a lot to get to and it's going to be a roller coaster of emotions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a roller coaster of promotions as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's also a roller coaster of promotions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the most we've covered on like one show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we've done four different companies before, but not very often.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the first promotion we're going to talk about, it's really quick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just watched like two matches before we started.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And one of them I had one to watch for a while.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, we're going to go to Big Japan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yes, it still exists.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's still need to buy my favorite things actually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: they still have like front-road tickets available for the like December-Currican.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to jump on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're only like 7,000 yen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Be careful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe down the line, I will have to pay for whatever I cheap dust I will inhale there, but you know, I feel like that would still be dangerous no matter what I said in Kirk and it's small enough building so I might as well just get the full view.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So on August 11th, there was a show at Korkin and I watched, she's she caught on defeating Kitty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kitty Ocean, Kamatani, in 13 minutes and 22 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The two
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not what they guys were doing to each other nine, 10 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, but they still be the share of each other with lots of headbutts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I mean, to be fair, I had to be fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what does come a time is rolling now on the picture plan roster?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he just like, the gatekeeper for like, die, actually, essentially.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he was in the death match division for a while.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, probably until a few months ago,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was double champion for a while.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I always seems to be back just in the strong division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I look you think it might be getting rid of the death division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a bad feeling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, then what's the point?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a very good question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No way they would, they would drive and fewer people with the core kind of this is just a strong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like they're going to literally run out of people, like this literally like just not enough people doing death,
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[SPEAKER_02]: people come like a definitely aren't enough like the like really tough match wrestling right now it's kind of like Japanese like like population essentially were like it just aren't enough people coming after and like something will have to give eventually yeah but I think some of those old guys are close to hanging on
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but eventually, like they can't, like you can't, you won't have a Dula Kowayashi forever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they just, like, they have like one or two guys in the pipeline, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's like six people that got retired in the next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not looking good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, big Japan's not going to close because they couldn't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They ran on money to run shows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They ran on the rest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They ran on the rest list.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the way it ends.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not just like it's broke down too many times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it's like the ua yoki wrestling himself, that's going to be the last show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I mean, is the battle worth a walk if you have core?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's only 13 minutes and I mean, it should cover one and it's leading to
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did I see Hashimoto versus Susu Shikawa on September 14th at Corquant?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which I'm very interested in seeing just to see what happens at Franklin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably just about the big dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not like Daishi is that much more exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you might as well just put it on the Shikawa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, well, speaking of DIC, let's go to, um, I'm just 24th at death of any of 13, which I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I drew very good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, 305 people in IT to go say memorial gymnasium.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this had the strong title was third from the top.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so what I mean was for the death batch channel, the answer to Yakuido defeating Akira to win the death match title, and then the main event was a hundred fluorescent light tubes tower and alpha death match, Taurus agreed to feeding Machio Kageama.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you would hope that if you load a card up like that, you would draw better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, is that really a load card?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, it is a load like it's a loaded card in a sofa as it's a, there's two title matches there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's mainly a generally has drawn pretty well, like this is, I think it's definitely way below what last year's time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hashimoto defeated buzzard in 604 with like an M, the DDT, the implant DDT type thing it does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you've got a special name for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like I've said, Hashimoto is like, um, become a competent wrestler that's his baseline where he's not like bad over your shit and that's still true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he didn't really turn it up here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he didn't give Buzzard a lot to work with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was a little bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't horrible or anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No like three stars three and a quarter up best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, buzzard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But trying, but, you know, Hashimoto just worked his like second gear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Loki was hoping that they would go all the way with buzzer because at least would have been like some ha buzz You know, but like like that at least would have been like a fresh guy Like as much as I think like putting it on Ishikawa is a good idea that's not You know a fresh thing to do really no I think so Hashimoto won the title in May as had made that was his second defense Yeah, that's enough just give to Ishikawa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: See the thing is I'm like, okay, I need to see what's going on big Japan and then I can never like bring myself to it I'm sorry absolutely have to you But it's a Kawa as the champion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will make sure to watch all those title matches right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean I would still maybe see who's the opponent, but definitely like it goes further up than like pre-artic you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's for sure Absolutely, I would say so so that's that's my very brief reign of big Japan, but Not good
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I really need to go there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The crowd got into Ishikawa versus Kamatama where they're like headbutting but that was because I mean, I would run that back at the title match eventually if you give Ishikawa like a deep and they long-range.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we're going to move on to the two days of Peter Pitt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do not watch and I refuse to watch these entire shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I made to be fair, these weren't that like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The dead dead, they've been worth pizza pants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it helped that displayed it in two days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Pahama to these shows that you watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I mean, I kind of watched everything, but... Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I don't really have a lot to say about a lot of the Unaccard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the one thing I wanted to ask you about the Unaccard is because I wanted to watch this match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then I would split my mind until now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What I saw on the list, did you watch the Hinata Kassai debut match?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched this debut match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think he's a super rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's like a guy where like you go in and you're like, oh yeah, this is like this guy very clearly is like similar talent level to his dad or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's also very clear that he comes in with a bit more knowledge than your average rookie as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right because he comes from a wrestling background.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think he's a little bit further along than your average rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think there's something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can quite put my finger on it yet what that actually is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, go down a similar career path to that or if he sticks with like more regular wrestling as well Like I think he has the aptitude for that, but then again, so don't say that But I mean they also put him in the effort for Ashama.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that helps as well right like who better to guide a rookie from match and a rashima
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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I wouldn't say that he's somebody who immediately need to put on your list for potential, like, rookie of the era or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's definitely worth keeping an eye on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's no dekiyau de shima.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he definitely isn't like a dekiyau de shima.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not like a guy that immediately pops off the page.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I didn't see anything else until the New Japan guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So tag match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So is there anything else you want to say about that undercurrent?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, I guess the toy you are corrupt, I mean, it, I mean, if you like DDT comedy and everything, right, like I think that's something, like I think that that's something you can watch and like you can enjoy that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, then otherwise, I mean, I guess maybe, yeah, no, I don't think that's really worth it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, honestly, not really, to be quite honest, I'm like looking through them, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: like I'm trying to like see okay what do I remember about this that's like really worth mentioning what I'm like yeah no like the only one is like obviously like the the extreme title match that's a bit of like both the stipulation and everything but then otherwise
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, then we pick all the way up to the eighth batch of the show, third from the top dramatic dream tag match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Zach Sabre Jr.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in Cosa, Fujita, defeated Chris Brooks in Takashi, Maseta, and Nate, Masata in 1949 with the Clarkicat on Sabre for Masata for the submission.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, this is pretty good, pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would give it a second batch of the show by far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, you know, I would consider like I was actually considering maybe if this is my favorite match of the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's quite there, but like it's it's definitely like really high up there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love this match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think those if you read as coming along really really nicely like he's yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're very clearly building him up to be the like ace of the like new Japan junior division going forward Like I think that that I think is in a weird position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that might be like wrapping stuff up to be quite honest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the feeling I get
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to drop the title to catch him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's going to, yeah, I've, like, looked like he, like, the Brock's match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a really, like, because that's what happened after this match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they, like, set up a single smash between the two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to happen in November.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then what's the other one?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's going to wrestle on an initial, which one was that again?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, uh, can we project it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's doing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that feels so strongly like just, you know, taking, like taking off the list essentially, like take off the list before you go kind of match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no otherwise again, but the match itself, I think was really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, can't really complain about the like obviously the IWGP everywhere, which happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to win like I don't think the like outcome was ever an any doubt here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I thought it was funny that, you know, they did the comedy early on and then it was basically Sabre no selling it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, yes, I got hit with this long string or whatever you want to call it and then say we're just kick the pop it really quickly and that was that was very good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, oh, I think the finish was great because Masada went for that like spinning kick off the second rope and then caught him in the ankle walk and then turned in the parking cat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that was really cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, I mean that's that's always like Zack's for a ride like it's like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like he'd always try and find like a new way to catch somebody into submission.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I always admire that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, this was really cool finish.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the KOD tag team channel, you can, you know, and you can't deny it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you guys case the soccer in head, he'd definitelyOKertani in like 16 minutes when Nia pinned the soccer, but the soccer was injured and had been lying on the ground.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this was actually that bad and it was a little better than I thought it would be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sasaki was an offensive and all the time you see your character is actually really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got it because when he was a babyface he was a little bit of a new is in the destruction.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I wrap it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, you know, he's pretty bland babyface.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was very bland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was basically like I mean he was literally a white meat babyface but he was literally an unseasoned white meat babyface.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was very boring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's a good deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he desperately needed that, I think that literally, like, I mean, maybe saying it's saved as careers, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think it's strong, because I don't think he would have gone anywhere with the character that he had previously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think now he has got something to build on going forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, no, I think that was definitely a right decision.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also really like, like, nah, I know as the champions, I think they're really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I enjoyed this match a lot more as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I went in maybe with not super low expectations, but it's always like dice because it's a saakey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like How much like he just can't go anymore?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just completely shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, but he didn't drag the match down and I like the other three guys, so yeah, no, I definitely enjoyed this one
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, next up, the main event for the K-O championship of the way title.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Guys, you're sad to hear Gucci defeated Junaki, I'm in 1741 with the club, with a club pinfall to make a second defense of the K-O D title.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This was what you wanted it to to be and Akiyama decided to do is one performance of the year and I'm like someone we'll talk about later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can still do that one great performance of the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This might like me to be fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't want to know what Akiyama just doesn't have like does he just not have a neck or is this his his like neck muscle routine has to be insane just like that he can still take like bumps like this at his age with the style that he's been wrestling since like you know the 90s
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[SPEAKER_02]: 30s, again, like look at his contemporaries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 33 years this month actually, yeah, 92, I boy, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at his contemporaries who either had to retire because of horrific injuries or literally died in the fucking ring and he's just still out here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's wait, yeah, he's now, is he 10 years old and now then Massava was when he died.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she was, because it would have been like 46, 47.
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[SPEAKER_03]: yeah exactly so like he's still out here like ten years like later and he's still taking like he's still like getting the Gucci toss him around he lasted out longer than all the other guys a quad stop wrestling when he was like 47 tower was like maybe 52 Kobashi was like
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[SPEAKER_02]: And hey, he's a better wrestler than like guys that are like, you know, 10 years his dreamer, which we'll get to later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's 55.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, so that that's what's been said.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he lasted longer than all those guys and still can go to high level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, I mean, every night, no, this is one big match of this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the fact that he can still go at this level at all is a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think of the finish with Higuchi kicking out of the risk clutch and then just grabbing the claw?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what you need to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just no need to put like again, we just talked about how old he is, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he can really only go like once per year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason to protect Renaki
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[SPEAKER_02]: where he could she's just like no old man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will not just kick out of your finish, I will then just immediately grab you, hit my own finish and end the match because fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that like that put over he Gucci, like huge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, Akliya, I might have still already demonstrating the match that he could still go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have mere falls in everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This wasn't just like he Gucci beating up old man for like 15 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you kind of feel bad for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like the like risk crisis point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the only thing he really got like no, like like they had like a decent back and forth and everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they showed that like it was still a match that he Gucci was like, you know, the dominant guy in overall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like yeah, it's not like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's not like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, Akiyama got enough offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He showed that he can hang, like they can still hang, but like at the end of the day, he could she is just the guy now, so he will, like, just be like, no, fuck your finish and also the match is over now, because I say so, just, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, same with like the Hirashima finish, like I love both of those finishes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just made, like the both made, he could just look like an absolute monster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we move on to the next day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it'll be November 30, ultimate party in Sumo Hall, Saber versus Brooks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So next day, August 31st of Kmerk and Hall, no attendance announced here from what I see up pro love, but it was pretty packed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because for some reason DDT doesn't announce attendance as this year, despite the fact that their attendance is a very clearly recovered, very well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Paul, I didn't watch the undercard, and I didn't watch the tag match, I didn't but I watched everything after that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So do you want to say anything about it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, let me just look over it, uh, uh, I guess like the only one you might want to watch is the actually I like the open the open I will enough like that was like a relief on like high flying like like six minutes in an hour, just get the crowd into it.
19:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody does that sports like that was fun.
19:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
19:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But then again, he wrote a like, yeah, wasn't really worth the finish.
19:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Then, yeah, the freeway was kind of nothing.
19:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I did like to tag match actually.
20:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I did like to tag title match.
20:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I was going to match.
20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
20:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You should watch that one.
20:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like a whosn that could blow away match or anything like that.
20:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked it a little bit more than one on night one, but it was a bit shorter as well.
20:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I know that was great fun like Naya just kind of like bouncing around and doing his thing it was good like especially before Ashama Like those two just I think have really really great chemistry Yeah, just overall really solid tag match nothing blow away, but yeah, that's it basically
20:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So for the DDT University title, Minora Suzuki defeated Mao in 1750 with it gotched out proud, dry retaining his fourth effect of the title.
20:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And frankly, I was sort of surprised at this results.
20:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was the moment to crown Mao, getting a big win over a veteran like Suzuki.
20:47
[SPEAKER_03]: My god, Mao got something decent at Suzuki.
20:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is like the best Suzuki thing that's matching like, yeah, a long time.
20:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's funny, okay.
20:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So,
20:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I could tell you the last bet the best Suzuki Siko's back before this.
21:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't know if you're seeing Taki up a mania, I haven't because it aired live on a Bima.
21:05
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe it'll end up on Russell Universe at some point.
21:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But the best single Suzuki Siko's back for for this that Malmatch was against Shibada at the last Taki on a mania.
21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I can see that.
21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't see that one, but I, to be fair, I have heard good things about that, but yeah, I mean, but then aside from that, like, I think it's been a while since he felt like a match this good really.
21:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean,
21:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Suzuki was definitely motivated, but I mean, Mao just increasing.
21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, yes, no, absolutely.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Mao was just like, now, I'll take whatever bum you want to suppress to me.
21:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
21:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:43
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, he pulled the out of them, which is great.
21:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know.
21:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Though the question is then, what is, are you going to be able to top this with Suzuki's deck's universal title match?
21:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably not.
21:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And no, so that's okay.
21:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It was probably time to take it off of him and like I don't get what they're doing with like maybe they feel like Mao isn't going to stick around really I don't know.
22:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't get what they're doing with Mao people are so much speculating that New Japan's going to go on up on a poaching because of how the roster is and yeah maybe that people aren't quite living up to expectations etc etc but
22:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's certainly not over the realm of possibility, but I'll wait until it happens, I guess, I'm not gonna.
22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Mao to some degree has been a guy that hasn't really lived up to expectations of DDT, so I don't know if that's the guy you want to approach, but, you know, I get like, I mean, he's got in a lot, like, okay, I will say that, like he's got in a lot better, no, he's gotten really, like he's been consistently grew up here.
22:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's been consistently great over like the last like twenty four months or so.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a bit my topic like before that, but now like I think he's really as it figured out like what he needs to do, which makes it in where the DDT just kind of refuses to really kind of do anything with him.
22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
23:01
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see if they do anything with him next, because you know, have like the deal.
23:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
23:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so dramatic dream match, which was really also the mostly highly promoted match of the show, actually, if you did the poster.
23:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Haroshi Tana, she called Dino in 1629 with a crowdhold.
23:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know much to say about this match except for, except for.
23:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll give him quite up with this because this was what you'd expect it to be.
23:25
[SPEAKER_03]: They made this feel like a bigger deal than any of like Tana Hoshes like Countdown matches in New Japan.
23:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, no, no, it was better than that.
23:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that was great.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I did like the pageantry around the match.
23:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They had like a video package and everything, with like, like, really, like the weird things is that the video package was mostly about Dino and not, kinda, just all like Dino, right?
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, was this guy that came up from like, you know, like, like really like low level kind of stuff and then it's not like a big deal essentially, even with the character that he has and all of that.
24:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I get that I need to be fair you know what actually DDT that's what you should It's like build up your own guy even if you bring it like this like legend from this other company And you know what I will also say Tanahashi gave Dino a lot more than he did her rashima all those years ago
24:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it did actually I never thought of that, but again, that's like the one time Tana Hashie was just a complete fucking asshole and just refused to just give the other guy anything I don't know.
24:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I just have the pattern tree.
24:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It was the best part about the match actually Oh absolutely and this is like you know This is a major like you know countdown to retiring in one of the big star big stars and wrestling
24:43
[SPEAKER_03]: History, et cetera, et cetera.
24:45
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know, it's succeeded from that perspective.
24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know much of the same with the back.
24:50
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: The match was whatever.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty pedestrian, like basically both of them walked through, like, their signature spots.
24:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you even had, like, 10-a-half, she pulled on his pants, reveal that he was wearing, like, the same kind of fun that Dina was wearing and all of that.
25:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, like, it was fine for what it was.
25:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but the crowd was very hot, not surprisingly.
25:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
25:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
25:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And so then we go to the KOD, open white title.
25:20
[SPEAKER_03]: You get you, I know, because it's out of Higuchi in 2042 with the WR to win the title.
25:25
[SPEAKER_03]: So even before what will subsequently happen, I was like, ah, too soon.
25:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you've seen.
25:33
[SPEAKER_03]: This was good.
25:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Not as good as the match in the day before I thought it took a little bit.
25:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a little slower to get going, but again, once these guys do hit their stride, it was awesome.
25:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I would give Akiyama versus.
25:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Higuchi, like four and a quarter stars, like four stars, you know, but of course, you can't avoid what happened next when, because if you hurada came out to cash in his challenge, anywhere any time match, and then Pin, you ain't know what the one shot reverse miracle inside cradle little in 251, and I was just like, oh, God, turn this off.
26:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And Mata, I know this is the first time if you want to count Dino as a comedy rest.
26:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he is, but he's a little unique because he's also the top star of the promotion.
26:18
[SPEAKER_03]: But he, like Dino hasn't lost the hasn't held the KO details like 2018.
26:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you want to like think about it, this is the first time in seven years that they've decided to go with the comedy guy with the title.
26:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's the thing.
26:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually kind of enjoy her out of steak like it's funny enough But it's not a guy would ever consider putting my top title on like wouldn't him like if I look at the DDT roster like It's so many guys on there.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I would put the title on
26:59
[SPEAKER_02]: before him, I'm just like, I don't know, maybe I'm out of step here with the DDT offense that this is actually like, you know, like a really fun, long, like thing, but like I really hope this isn't like, like this like a long thing, they've been longing for forever or whatever, you know?
27:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm kind of like, I kind of drop in and out of the ET.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like I watch every show and all of that.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just, I don't understand why did it this.
27:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope it's not a long-term thing.
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope this is like, oh, we did this fun thing for like the moment at the end of Peter Pan and then he just loses it on his first offense.
27:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I just, I can't rather just, like he's not a top guy.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he just isn't just...
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's the funny dancing man from the undercard and they also didn't do anything over these two shows to build him up like in neither like he wasn't like he wasn't neither of his matches And he wasn't even involved in the finish of either of the matches that he wrestled on these two shows.
28:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, except for like this one obviously, but like it's funny because you're you're a little more generous than I am with this.
28:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And I it's sucked.
28:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like this.
28:08
[SPEAKER_03]: This is why I don't watch DDT undercard.
28:10
[SPEAKER_03]: This is very off-putting.
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And I also consider flirting with the idea of me putting like DDT number three as promotion of the year.
28:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Like my observed room is just something because I'm like, this is pretty good.
28:20
[SPEAKER_03]: To Gucci's been awesome, but this is just a complete turn off for me to put this at all.
28:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, if you need a back when to Gucci's challenging for the title, I gotta say something.
28:30
[SPEAKER_03]: You mean.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And we infer enough.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'll, like, literally funnel enough, like, literally, like, an hour.
28:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It's show before we start.
28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so before we started recording.
28:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually contacted John Carroll to be, like, hey, yeah, because they're, like, looking for people that want to go into, like, to take a lottery for, like, the January for DDT curriculum, because they want to go for, like, front for tickets for that.
28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was, like, I, you know, what put me in on that.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually, okay, at first, I was, like,
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Do it then I was like, but do I really want to watch like Hirata as like the KOD champion?
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, if you're gonna be there, you might as well do that.
29:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, no, but then I also consider, okay, like, it's September now.
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It is still like,
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: free-ish months left, right, until that show actually happens.
29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: There's enough time for him to lose that build.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I just do not foresee them giving this maybe they'll give her more entitled their fans, just so that, like, but here's the thing, like, it works way better with Ferrada's character if he just loses it immediately on his first title their fans.
29:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
29:38
[SPEAKER_02]: if he's not even competitive in a match like if he just like like heck you know what you should do should just have higuchi challenge him and just beat him in like five seconds.
29:50
[SPEAKER_03]: That works.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a point of all of this.
29:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, that's that's why I hate cashions.
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't give a shit, which promotion does it.
30:00
[SPEAKER_02]: They're only stocks, they are.
30:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's the T. Although I think what is Takeda is Takeda teaming with Tyson Takeda, I also have a party.
30:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's quite the team.
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's probably going to be enough on ultimate party for us to like check that one out as well.
30:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I'll check out the party.
30:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I see on September 14th, you can join over since the decade of good timing.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That's worth watching.
30:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
30:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll keep an eye on the cards, but
30:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, when we get there, I'll watch it when it actually really does look interesting.
30:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So we go from DDT to pro wrestling Noah and we start with their cork and haul show on August 16th feels so long ago now, I caught it all in front of 1,598 fans for a super no vacancy full house.
30:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's any surprise there.
30:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no.
30:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're already on track to like sell out the next two hurricanes as well.
31:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The, uh, the unknown opener, which I mean, that one better sell out, given like how much they've loaded up that card, but then the unknown finals, well, yeah, the end one finals.
31:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd also hope that would sell it.
31:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I mean, I mean, I would have expected to sell out.
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't expect it to already look like this.
31:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's not that much tickets available for that one already.
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't even really know it's going to be in that.
31:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, it's less a thing of like, oh, they're selling out the finals.
31:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more of a, oh, they're already selling out the finals.
31:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Before we have any different ideas, it's going to be there.
31:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So first, we had eight hours, a hundred or five years a morning.
31:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all the shame.
31:38
[SPEAKER_03]: If you didn't hear me talking about Hashi, I'd say you could tell me I'm asking you to be walking in 623.
31:43
[SPEAKER_03]: when Ada pinned me a walk with Imperial Uno, surprise surprise.
31:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it was a nice little, like, everybody do their shit, but too short to make anything of it.
31:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
31:52
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, Lucas Tosaki, Hayada, and Tetsuya, Endo, defeated Keto, Shuhi, and Guchin Black, but it's around 5.26 at the horizontal cradle from Endo on Menseire, while they kept it short.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I mean, it really wasn't anything to this, but just yeah.
32:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my circuitomy and tattiscaid defeated Metabus sorry, decking up in 341 with the Stranglehold Gamma on, um, kidney me on and Abba.
32:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, damn, they're really pushing kidding me, because they just, like, steamrolled the last tagging champs.
32:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, and then I have a back-to-drawing as well.
32:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, wow, I mean, he always was, right?
32:29
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, we'll all up a somewhat.
32:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we can deal with this, certainly.
32:33
[SPEAKER_03]: But I would like to have saved me, be kept sorry, and then I'll be more credible as takes you to the Challenger.
32:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're going for the exact same architect like Masaki Tamie and Taikinaba when the city.
32:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.
32:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Go Shio Zaki Muhammad Yonai and Hajimeo Harid, Kashi Sugira, Dagan, Nau, and A43 when Dagan, Squalphide.
32:51
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's nothing to talk about there.
32:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, it's just where like Nau brought out the mask.
32:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just on one of the later.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was this show, right?
33:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you think of the mask?
33:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
33:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, it just seemed pointless stuff from 10,000.
33:13
[SPEAKER_03]: See, you're like, yeah, yes, kickers like they were in the kidney stuff.
33:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, can the community, can exactly?
33:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, for sure.
33:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They just feel it's even further, like, it's like, they just brought an all, you know, as a replacement.
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And now they're like, okay, what do we actually do with you now that we actually have you here?
33:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they've already kind of run out of ideas.
33:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Kido Kimi had defeated Howard Tokyo in 1947 with the skywalk.
33:40
[SPEAKER_03]: How about solid?
33:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know.
33:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I was expecting a little more.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, especially because this was one of those mattress where, like, I think that I like intended for haritoki to like prove himself.
33:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was fine.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the mattress go way more in this one.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: But it, it just kind of lacked intensity.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yes, it was a mid-cut match, but it also just, I don't know.
34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like despite the fact that it wasn't a mid-cut, like, like, especially for haritoki, I would have liked him to like dial it up a bit more.
34:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I will still reserve judgement, but maybe that's just who he is.
34:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But I will reserve final judgement until after the end one.
34:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
34:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And the next up, Galenau Dragon Bay, an alpha wolf, and super crazy defeated Luis Montage, Flamita, Bandito, and Carlos in 1048 with the Galenau special from Galenau and Carlos.
34:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And this was good.
34:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Even though super crazy was there, but hey, it's only 12.5% of the match dragging it down.
34:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's really just there to like, you know, bring the guy.
34:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It gives to us dead to bring the guys into the country and surface dead translator.
34:48
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, exactly.
34:51
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is a lot of fun.
34:52
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, given the undercard as actually is like, okay, this is probably one could make an argument that this should have been earlier in the show or also this
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: We gained my attention to this show.
35:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like if this had been early and then we would have gotten the rest of the show after that, I would have been like trying to like claw my attention back for like a saw of others.
35:14
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of sand, where it's like this way, I was like a lot more engaged into that because still this match really shook me awake.
35:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So the award is saying what a song somehow matches.
35:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Why would it be?
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Osama, Osama defeated a Wada San in 1254 with the real rebel.
35:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was pretty good in terms of just this overall presentation, right?
35:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Osawa left them up and, you know, a Wada San proved he could play a dirty game too and that made it pretty good come back in that, but then Osama caught some off and finished them off.
35:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I also like talking in Parker about a team 2,000 acts, but like they held them up and they embraced like, you know, you go out there and get them and come back and say, I thought that was a next touch and not just everything being team 2,000 acts just trolling everybody yeah exactly like I like I like it more than if they like, for example, what I've kicked them out of the faction of something like that yeah, for sure for sure.
36:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they kind of kept the clean and everything.
36:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just a nice imagine.
36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, we now know where water sand is going as well, because he's popped up in Europe now.
36:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Europe, as most of you expected.
36:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He's actually going to be on a GWF show this Sunday.
36:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be able to go because the NFL season is also starting that day.
36:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to be busy, so, but yeah.
36:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I expected like didn't I didn't I say that he was going to be it that he was going to end up a treat WF because they very clearly like whoever it is that who still hook up has like you know some sort of relationship with Noah.
36:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah for sure.
36:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I mean, I think he's going to get I mean, look, I think it's funny because I saw one of Zawa, I'm actually in Europe and didn't go very well and then a couple months later he was back.
36:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I have fairly high hopes for a water sound and they are clearly positioning a water sound.
37:03
[SPEAKER_02]: going off in a sand office he's gonna come back as a big deal much more than they gave us our Oh no, I was was basically like there was more or less like wasn't that announced and like a backstage like promo something I don't know but there was no sand off like this, right?
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, not like this.
37:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Jerad, here's the problem.
37:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You know who's the last person that got like uh a sand off like this.
37:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Who?
37:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Junta Miyawaki.
37:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
37:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he got one but two.
37:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he didn't get a second send off.
37:35
[SPEAKER_03]: They just said, how are he's back in Mexico?
37:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he sure was.
37:40
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, but he got the match with Kaito as a sento.
37:43
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
37:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but once he comes back, I'm assuming that the countdown is on for either 10,000 X kicking him out or he turning on his hour, right?
37:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, if I was still a heal when he comes back, that's the other thing.
37:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, I could see, you know, Osawa being a face, then a watersan returning, it probably just has a water.
38:07
[SPEAKER_03]: As a healer, you know, you're not going to call a watersan once he graduates from basically young boys' status.
38:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically returning and being like, oh, you know, you're gone soft, you know, et cetera, et cetera, type thing like that, right?
38:19
[SPEAKER_03]: And then turning on him?
38:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know.
38:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I could see that for sure.
38:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Or they could even do the thing where they like redo the like was our turn essentially where he comes back at first like, yeah, hey, hey, my buddy was our and then like
38:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Turns on him.
38:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, after like a little.
38:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
38:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So we get to the main events for the GHC heavyweight championship.
38:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't repeat it down reaching Mark.
38:45
[SPEAKER_03]: 3221 with the go to sleep to make us first defense of the title.
38:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul, I don't even know where we want to start with this.
38:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, I got to take it now because I assume Mark Fuji could at least do one good match this year.
38:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's the same.
38:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I was good.
38:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I say like this is guaranteed for us to something but it's finally over.
39:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it's the it's so over he's done.
39:05
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so done.
39:05
[SPEAKER_03]: So over he's done.
39:06
[SPEAKER_03]: He's done.
39:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Stick a fork at him.
39:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It's washed.
39:09
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about something even scarier in a minute in a few minutes.
39:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, from the very beginning, he botched out what the, over the rope pole thing, and, of course, right, somebody could set it up.
39:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, of course, it was like fine, but doll going, I thought Cantor was great here trying to structure this match.
39:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like epic.
39:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Cantor tried to like pull it back together, and then Marifoody just couldn't do it.
39:37
[SPEAKER_03]: But just being able to be up.
39:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm able to be brought up for those go to sleep at the end killed because it was like, okay, but then I was like, okay, you can give this match during a quarter three and a half, maybe even, but then they just shit the bed yeah the end with the go to sleep's
39:54
[SPEAKER_03]: and it does like you can't give this a good thing, type of thing.
39:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know after the match, Kenta was clearly like embarrassed and said this so on the micro rod, this wasn't what you're expecting.
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That's always bad, but like yeah, that's bad.
40:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at visible frustration to Kenta.
40:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, on his face during that, and of course he couldn't.
40:19
[SPEAKER_03]: If it was like a young guy, maybe he would or something, he's not going to do that to bar Fuji, he's just got to go with the flow and everything like that, but like not good, and real downer of what was supposed to be a big moment for both of those guys.
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it like I think like what was Mark Fuji's 30th anniversary or Yeah, because around this time last year would have not last year when like for two years ago, right with when he had the off-premach Yeah, two years ago was when he had the off-premach and that was around this time of the area.
40:53
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think it would be a 30th anniversary He did be in 1998.
40:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he did be a little earlier than that
41:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he made it to a 30th anniversary and I'm going to question that.
41:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so this was his 27th anniversary done.
41:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
41:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I think the Osprey match and then the AJ Styles match.
41:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
41:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
41:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I still expected something, but no.
41:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
41:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't going to have him.
41:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just done.
41:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wouldn't say this isn't the worst.
41:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Marta Fuji match I've ever seen.
41:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's, I mean, that's, that's the work.
41:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, now and hindsight, I'm asking myself was actually all of that.
41:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But no, I mean, I was long enough ago, I can't put all of that.
41:40
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't really put that on my refugee.
41:42
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
41:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was always say about that match.
41:45
[SPEAKER_02]: That match was so bad that it made me so sad that I had to leave to show.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the match got worse after I left.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: No, this wasn't that bad, but this was still a mass of mass of disappointment.
42:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And especially because this will be the last kind of foody, like this will be the last like big kind of foody singles title match we'll ever got.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there won't be another one.
42:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that this is what they go out on is, yeah, it's disappointing, but what can you do?
42:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that sort of put a bad case and everyone's both at the end of the show, but then I didn't watch any of the spots shows between this.
42:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So next up is the Mohammed Yonei TV 30th anniversary show at Quark and Hall in front of 1,1888 80 1,189 fans.
42:34
[SPEAKER_03]: down, obviously, but I didn't think the Unain University shows going to sell a cork and to be completely honest.
42:39
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, because especially because they did this kind of last year for like go, and that drew less fans than this, I think.
42:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So like the fact that now they can like sell more tickets with Unain, it's anniversary.
42:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this shows like what a power they've become in Korea.
42:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
42:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I didn't watch everything on the show, but I did watch a Kudo Hadaka, Amosuka, the Finikayata, and Dekyotashima, and so I mean, 14 when Tadaka made Otashima submits to the strong capture, and I thought this was a little fun, little opener.
43:10
[SPEAKER_03]: It was so nice to see Adaka who I love so much and very underrated.
43:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I think historically face off with Otashima.
43:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, still the only guy that in that weird fake firing angle, Fonozawa, if the only guy that
43:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, because he was one of the members of, you know, what was it called again, Los Paras de Maldihapan?
43:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
43:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they all kind of went away.
43:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they all came back and said for Hidaka, right.
43:40
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all.
43:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was Cotaro Suzuki still there, too.
43:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He can't be with me, too.
43:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think he was in Los Paras de Maldihapan.
43:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't he maybe I don't I can keep my I can't keep it straight.
43:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Who was what I do remember that he got a thinger you can't I feel like you can't blame someone for him.
44:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was in Los Angeles the mouth did help on.
44:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, who was okay We were out the honor.
44:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh Yeah, as a junior.
44:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I was to that was the fucking wildest thing ever.
44:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I was one of the wildest things Noah has ever done.
44:14
[SPEAKER_02]: What's just like
44:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he also watched the he looks like he ate half the tune yet division.
44:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I also watched a Yonik family through a thousand yen meal ticket battle royale and due to actually one I mean it was actually it wasn't so bad by Japanese battle royale standards I suppose certainly better than some of the last few that all Japan has done.
44:43
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the best I can say about that.
44:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
44:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, I will, yeah, Japanese better.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, they're just never good any on any of them.
44:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we had a three-way tag Alejandro Kai Fujimura defeated Dragon being an Alpha Wolf and Ada and Susie condo in 734 with the high angle front cradle from Alejandro on Bane and I thought that this is a fun little quick match and a big win.
45:08
[SPEAKER_03]: for Alan Honder, which is going to set up him in Fujimura on James and Skopa Doris coming up for the junior tag titles.
45:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I want to try to be good.
45:14
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Ozzawa and Masa Kenemia defeated Kenemia when she hit Tanaguchi in 522 with this Stranglehold Gamma on Kidney on Tanaguchi.
45:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was another really good, fine, quick, as kicking match.
45:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Kenemia is just a monster now.
45:29
[SPEAKER_03]: But I did watch most of this show except for this.
45:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's about to say what I what didn't you watch from this show.
45:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You've kind of talked about all of that.
45:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
45:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Fair enough.
45:40
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
45:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not.
45:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
45:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we had the N1 Scramble match, which is kind of familiar.
45:47
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I don't end up with the feeling.
45:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't tell I'm on a busoy.
45:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And Casio, you can food Gita in 1232 with the inside cradle from Kimi on Kanta.
45:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, fun little everybody gets their shit in.
45:58
[SPEAKER_03]: But with the big surprise with Kimi and pinning the champion leading it to them and one match coming up on the opening night, right?
46:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's, yeah, things up type thing.
46:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really not that much to talk about.
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I did watch it.
46:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, yeah, I mean, it was 10 minutes.
46:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's hard to say it was too long, but I don't know what I actually think it was kind of too long.
46:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you could have given this like, like, I don't know why this was the semi main.
46:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it just, I don't know.
46:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, I get it when you push Hajimeo Harra when he's in his hometown, but like, why he's getting semi-manes and correct, and that's just, it's unnecessary.
46:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, first.
46:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, main event, Mohamed Yonet, 30th Anniversary match.
46:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Mitchie Mark Fuji, Mohamed Yonet, and Deskate Keda, defeated Goshi Ozaki, Suji Shikawan, Suji Katelge, and 248 with the muscle buster on
46:48
[SPEAKER_03]: uh, yonik for, uh, katoge, which is, or katoge.
46:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, I mean, this is a lot of fun, right?
46:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and my god, I can't even still a madman.
46:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
47:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I, uh, like he, he worked so much harder than I thought he would in this match.
47:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And like same with yonik, right?
47:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that sounds surprising.
47:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, but with you know, it's always like you forget that like when he actually what like he's also one of those guys when he still wants to he can still go hard It's just that 90% of the time he's just kind of like yeah, but he did at the very beginning of 2024.
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I do remember that because I remember like I was there at like you know like that wouldn't that would not let me break started
47:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's when they found out you know it.
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because like at the New Year's show, like it was like, like, I remember Jonah, I was like, what the fuck, why is Jonah working so hard and then they did the like, magical curriculum?
47:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what is happening?
47:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they come out and was like, yeah, we're forming team, no, I'm like, oh, okay, that's why you're like,
47:49
[SPEAKER_02]: put out all of the stuff because they're actually doing something with UK and all of that makes more sense.
47:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, I mean, there was a lot of fun.
47:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people, I mean, it should call when a kid I went to hardest because it was when the headbutt insanity.
48:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it got busted open.
48:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was a lot of fun, you know, you've got alerts like that.
48:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so,
48:10
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, there's not much else to say about it.
48:12
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just a fun match with the old guys.
48:15
[SPEAKER_03]: We have some end one announcement of participants finally.
48:19
[SPEAKER_03]: And Block A, Kenton, a Kaito Kiyomiya, Manibu Soya, Uka Sasaki, Kazuki, Fujita, Tatsuya, Ando, Masakitomiya, and Daga, Wakbee, going, Naomi Chima, Fudu, Keno, Dikinaba, Jack Morris, Haruto, Kibuki, Nai Junior, Ando Zawa.
48:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul, first thoughts on that line up for the end one.
48:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, it definitely kind of put the bit of a kibosh on us, like, predicting a track Morris is leaving, or at least not sooner, right?
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because we were like, well, if he's not in his definitely leaving, but, like, he is, so, like, he's definitely going to stick around at least for like, that's one more month.
48:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it was a bit surprised about a bit of a lack of outsiders, uh, like Ricky Knight Jr being the only one
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's fine.
49:05
[SPEAKER_02]: He's fine.
49:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he does not like like aggressively fine.
49:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, aggressively fine.
49:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's you know what you know what he's he's been on toast dietary Hashimoto I think it's a beans on toast will ask for it.
49:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh god, no, he's not like No, he wants to Yeah, he doesn't have that ability at all No, yeah, I thought his match against Ketokimi and the UK last year was a little like yeah
49:32
[SPEAKER_03]: and every kind of like um yeah it's interesting that they did not I mean they compacted the N1 pretty compact like compacted the length of it this year pretty in terms of shows pretty small yeah I'm really kind of somewhat surprised hmm I mean I saw some people commenting on the fact that there's no like an XT guys in this but like I don't really make that much out of that like I don't know do you think that's like anything
49:59
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think much of it is to Japan is not incoming people, we should know, it never was it never was Didn't ever was and it's to Europe isn't even the thing and that was already 10 years at best and then our entire is into Agalabonk and why I don't know what Mike these health condition is, but are they supposed to be reporting soon?
50:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they are, but they're going to Florida, they're not, yeah, yeah, opening up anything in Europe.
50:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's very obvious that they never had any plans to do so.
50:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're definitely not opening anything in a market where, like, like, Japan, like, they just know.
50:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this relationship will end whenever, like, a B-Mise, like,
50:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, like W.E.
50:45
[SPEAKER_02]: goes off of a B.M.A.
50:46
[SPEAKER_02]: and this relationship might already be over.
50:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you know what the feeling I have is that they started sniffing around Kai to K.M.A.
50:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Noah put a, like, basically Noah shot that down immediately and then they just, you know, sent them like in Amora because they don't give a shit about in Amora.
51:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, yeah, you can have that sky.
51:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's about the extent of the relationship.
51:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe in Amora still regular on TV.
51:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he had a title match not that long ago.
51:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, last thing was on the 19th and Philadelphia Street fight.
51:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's Josh Briggs, of course.
51:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, 755 on cage max 3 and 3 quarter stars on from Dave.
51:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but like it's WWE rating, so I come much of a thing you can actually give on that.
51:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's look at the first night because it's big.
51:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Because we've got, so this is on, and then we'll look at the last block, because it'll be the only nights that matter.
51:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
51:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So we got dog versus Tetsuya, Endo, Dekki, and Abba versus Jack Morris, Galeno versus Harutoki.
51:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Maribu, sorry versus Masakitamiya.
51:51
[SPEAKER_03]: circle ball on folks.
51:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he has the thing that could be a squash.
51:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it could be.
51:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that could be a thing.
51:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, kiddemy, I just like taps him out and like two minutes.
52:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't like it.
52:03
[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about the sum.
52:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
52:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, working at junior versus Kennell.
52:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
52:07
[SPEAKER_03]: If we all know where that's.
52:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if I mean, Ricky and I Junior's gonna win.
52:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course.
52:13
[SPEAKER_03]: We got Ocososaki versus Casuuki Fujita and really Sasaki should win.
52:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you should.
52:18
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be interesting how they get Fujita for Fujita.
52:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but Sasaki is a shooter, right?
52:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that if you can convince him to... No, I'm talking to anybody.
52:28
[SPEAKER_03]: who jira in the whole tournament.
52:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and yeah, but this might be one of the like just straight losses that he's willing to take because Sasaki is like a former UFC guy.
52:39
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, for sure.
52:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we have Osawa versus now meet you, Mark Fuji.
52:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And we should talk about his man going to be able to do this turn of it.
52:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd like, they might have to keep his matches for art, right?
52:54
[SPEAKER_03]: They should, look, even if you didn't shit the bed in the title match, you're going to put them with the tournament.
53:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I was match, got to be 10 minutes or so.
53:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I feel like this is probably going to be one of his longest matches in the entire tournament.
53:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's going to be like, Osawa bumping around him.
53:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we got a G.C.
53:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Junior title match, finally your havers.
53:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, can't tell versus Kyro Kimia.
53:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
53:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And then can't have this kind of kimiya.
53:22
[SPEAKER_03]: All who's winning this because we just saw Kai do get the inside cradle win and the tag.
53:28
[SPEAKER_03]: The key wins again and then Kai do bite win this tournament.
53:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's Kai does winning this tournament, but I do think he's winning this match.
53:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think it's winning this match and
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't like it because it gives him like the potential to challenge like I still don't know really know I mean maybe it is just going to be kind to maybe they're going to have a beat kind to hear and then it just haven't go all the way but I think he's definitely for sure when English much because it's really no reason for him to not win this match.
53:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the last block that is on Sunday September 21st at Totchigi Late Cube
54:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Utsunomia, which on Japan is running this weekend, actually.
54:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, right, that's where they have the, the other semi-finals.
54:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, however, it's no more.
54:13
[SPEAKER_03]: So, in this show, we have Daiki and Abba versus Harutoki, not going to count for anything.
54:19
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I would be shocked if that's like to eliminate.
54:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually shocked that they put those two against each other, because this, that felt like two guys, they would have, like, jotted down to like, have a shock winner on the final block, and I eliminate somebody.
54:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's a lot of meaty stuff on this night cuz Paul would have been grouching after you got Jack Morris versus Ozawa and I feel like this could be a knock-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
54:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that could be bad, yeah.
54:50
[SPEAKER_03]: We got Galenau versus Cano.
54:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's eliminating who here?
54:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I almost feel like Cano is eliminating Galenau, so he can challenge for the national title.
55:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
55:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul, we got Kazuki Fujita versus Masa Kittemiya, and I think this is finally the time.
55:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, oh, where Fujita puts over Kittemiya?
55:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
55:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I could see Kittemiya go to the finals to be honest.
55:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
55:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And we've got Manavusa.
55:19
[SPEAKER_03]: But that would mean Kaito isn't going to the final, so.
55:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
55:24
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got Manavusa, Eversususaki.
55:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
55:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't totally rule out of that match mean something?
55:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely, I think this is one of the, I think, I don't think so, yes, picking up many ones to be honest, unfortunately.
55:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
55:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's like eliminating like Olga here.
55:40
[SPEAKER_03]: We got Kaito Kia, me and Vrsidaga, and Pa.
55:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I could definitely see Donna getting an upset here to knock out Kaito.
55:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not quite okay with that.
55:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Kitamiya can go through.
55:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I could do that.
55:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, can't have her situation and which also feels like it will have something with big stakes.
55:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
55:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if Kitamiya isn't going through this, I would like write this match down as like the match at the side of the block essentially.
56:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.
56:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And Paul, before we head over to Alzepan, I did watch one match from the August 30th show at Sunday Pit, and it was the main event.
56:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Kenton Dicky, Odishima, Diffini, Kato Kiemia, and Kai Fujimran 1849 with the game over from Kenton, Fujimura.
56:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Just because of what that match was, this is the only match set like caught my attention.
56:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm, guess what?
56:26
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a lot of fun.
56:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you put Diky Odishima in event, it's going to be great.
56:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and so that's exactly what I wanted to see it.
56:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it's worth watching.
56:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't.
56:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd watch anything else on the show.
56:39
[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing else on the show.
56:40
[SPEAKER_03]: That would even remotely interesting.
56:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the main event.
56:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I said it was Osawa Takashi Sugura and David defeating Marifuji Kenowan and Masuka.
56:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that sounds good.
56:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, there's a super crazy reverse black fence around my chin.
56:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely not.
56:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want you.
56:55
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
56:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But just pick me up.
56:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
56:58
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a few minutes, watch the card, mean a band.
57:00
[SPEAKER_02]: No, just for quick, just on the end one, on the end one.
57:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Because just looking at it, like, the winner is coming out of a block, right?
57:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm just looking at B-block, and I'm just like, I don't think any of these people have, like, like, I'm having a hard time taking, like, the guy that goes through from B-block to the final.
57:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Morris, Morris, maybe.
57:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Can I get everyone out?
57:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Osawa.
57:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but like I don't think any of these guys have a chance to win.
57:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think the winner is coming out of a look like I think it's going to be either Kaito.
57:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know if Kaito me.
57:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like if Kaito me, I go to the final.
57:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think yeah, like I think it's like Kaito I end up to be honest like if I just look like the weight as a structure.
57:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
57:42
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so that do you really closing thoughts on processing now?
57:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoy Noah to be honest over all.
57:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the roster's really good.
57:51
[SPEAKER_02]: They're still pretty hard even after, was our last title.
57:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want them to announce their fucking New Year's show finally.
58:00
[SPEAKER_02]: They've already announced it last year at this time.
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So they better not put this in a smaller building.
58:06
[SPEAKER_02]: They better put this back in putter camp.
58:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want them to fuck me over two times in a row of me not being able to go to Booraken.
58:13
[SPEAKER_02]: even if I have a hotel with like really close to Budokan, like come on man, like don't do this to me.
58:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And Ariark is far away, right?
58:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I don't feel like even think even if it's Ariarka, like I saw some people be like, what if they put it in like, out of water and like, oh man, I don't want to go all the way down there, right?
58:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Please, no.
58:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially not on New Year's Eve, I'm probably going to be hung over.
58:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
58:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I'll give no I will give this and want a chance Even if it could be good, it even if it lacks the pizzazz of the big outside of my filling in and once we got over the hump of the Mara fruiting catamach and watching them walk some more recent stuff.
58:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I do feel better, but God that left the bad taste of my mouth
58:59
[SPEAKER_02]: No, and that one was just kind of sad because it was just, yeah, I mean, can't as time isn't done yet, but like my refuge is time is, it's over, it's over.
59:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just done, done.
59:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So we move on to Alchipan and the big news to start is, you may answer, we'll be back on September 23rd, which is their show.
59:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's where the Royal Road tournament winner is challenging.
59:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I suspect.
59:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think so, yeah.
59:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Back in the mix, finally.
59:30
[SPEAKER_02]: God, this promotion desperately needs some.
59:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you say that, and I agree, but I feel like some of the choices here still would have been shit.
59:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if he was like, oh, no, no, no, just tell him it's still what I've been terrible, even if I'm inside area.
59:44
[SPEAKER_03]: So, cork and haul, not her A3 fans.
59:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I think some people took this as not good, which is not great, but mind you, in 2023, they'll have to have the first night in cork and haul.
59:54
[SPEAKER_03]: It drew like nine hundred thirty cents.
59:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
59:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Do not draw for all Japan.
59:58
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it does not.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like same with the champion carnival open a champion carnival opener also always draws horribly For some reason all Japan fans just don't like tournament open us like they just don't buy tickets.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was just like really big or something Yeah, so no, I don't really like I get that it's a bad number, but like it I'm far from like doing just over this like There's other reasons to do them for like all Japan right now that the number
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so we start with, uh, actually, well, can I watch this whole show?
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but the first mattress is asking a reagent rising hat or defeating Dan Terran real in a way in 1224 with the crucifix from Hado and in a way, good match.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, man, this show is off to a good start and kind of went from.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't watch anything out until the Musashi 15th anniversary match of Musashi.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Second year, Shioca, you're feeling the great Sasuke in town on Hashi in 1048, with an internet show on Musashi from Musashi on the Hashi, how much to the show.
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, not much to this match, and but it was a fun little whatever get it in there.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But Sasuke didn't even shake his hand.
1:01:08
[SPEAKER_03]: After the blast.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of an asshole that's moved there, especially because it was specifically.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe he still has like hard feelings over him leaving for all Japan or something, but then I guess the money was too good to turn down or whatever, who knows.
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, maybe the money was too good, but it was also Southgate can turn down any money.
1:01:29
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... sowskate's probably a cumulative debt i don't know if you've ever watched a great sowskate documentary no there is um... she japanese canadian or japanese american she might be japan's cave but she did um... a documentary on the great sowskate like the great his daily grind with his family and running machinoka pro and she released it a few years ago
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think of the mid 2010s, but during the pandemic, she released it free on YouTube.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And I watched it.
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And Sasuke talked about, like, he's like, always heavily dead.
1:02:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's coming from Mitchenoku pro not, like, some she could gambling and also.
1:02:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:02:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I want to mean it, I'll know what you can't pay.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_03]: That makes money.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, he's probably sore that one of his top stars last
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so Odo tournament round one, Dysuke Sekamoto defeated Mr. Saturday, we'll keep doing 643 with the big bang, because Taster, short but sweet, right?
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_03]: They did a tough big man versus little man, huge pop, when Doi gets Sekamoto up for that in the fireman's carry, and I really want it needed to be.
1:02:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Turns out this was one of the best turn of the matches.
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, you know what I did?
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a nice little started tournament and okay, it's not all the way down because then we had the best match after the tournament next but then yeah, I did know it was all it was all to Stown Hill from like after the next matches and she I was like, you know after these next matches, I was like, you know what, maybe this tournament is going to be good and then the rest of the tournament happened
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, round one, now you're no more undefeated, you may air-jogging in 1626 with the maximum, Paul.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_03]: This was the best back to tournament and so it was for the course of the game.
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_03]: So fucking good.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_03]: My God.
1:03:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Believe in Neoya.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_03]: This is my God, yes.
1:03:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, you know what, but I had that moment last, last time I really caught it, but I was just like, I, you know what, fuck it, let's just have no, you know more of it.
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, I, I'm sticking with that.
1:03:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, have them beat Kento on Sunday, fuck it, let's just go all the way.
1:03:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Just just have when having a triple crown let's go like this guy is still so good.
1:03:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe his body is enabled to hold up for whatever who cares.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like to shit that he's going to give us until it's like body literally explodes.
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be so good.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just do it.
1:03:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, he better be.
1:03:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't tell they have to.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you just have to spice things up, right?
1:03:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what's finally like, otherwise he'll never get that win over canter.
1:04:03
[SPEAKER_02]: When else would he really get it?
1:04:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is your only chance to ever give it to us.
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just skeptical that they're not going to have canto in those semis at cork in, especially look who else would be in him.
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be Honda iAbe, as soon as the little and no more up.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Would they do that maybe?
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a part will be honestly.
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I wouldn't rule that out, but I do think it's going to be sick.
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_03]: But yes, this match was awesome.
1:04:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no more just being crazy and bumping like a madman.
1:04:33
[SPEAKER_03]: God, yeah, listen nuts.
1:04:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And he also got like, you might have to be serious as well, but it's always good.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's why we need nail, you know, more.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you kill.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_03]: It was the one stone.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_03]: You get nail, you know, more a back.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you may eryagi starts being a clown.
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's left some sensitivity, and what I'm like straight away.
1:04:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, um, so go out of your way to see this, even if you've heard horrible make it the turn of it.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, this is by and so far in a way to best.
1:04:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess one of the best matches, like one of the best single matches of the entire promotion is here.
1:05:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's kind of a performance from a guy that barely has barely wrestled in the last five years.
1:05:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And may not have a functioning neck or a functioning knee.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:05:16
[SPEAKER_03]: May the event can tell me a hard to feed a kango machimo in 2021-06 with a shut down German Superx Hold.
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw some people say this sucked.
1:05:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought it was dry and can't help you.
1:05:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
1:05:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
1:05:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Finish the sequence in a fine where he catches him in the in the shut down and everything like that, but you've seen this matching kind of million times like that.
1:05:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really the thing where I was disappointed.
1:05:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually went into this with fairly high expectations because obviously, I mean, it's canto and then I think can go with the right opponent like really, really well.
1:05:49
[SPEAKER_02]: and they just both were just like, nah, let's just do the most pain by the numbers, basic match we can think of and just, we just run through a signature spots that's all we'll do.
1:05:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I was just like, I was just disappointed.
1:06:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't bad, but it was disappointing.
1:06:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's funny, because I didn't think much of this.
1:06:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, okay, yeah, well, that wasn't much, but I didn't think much of it, right?
1:06:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think that this was the beginning of the decline.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, this was still one of the best matches.
1:06:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
1:06:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so
1:06:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul, can you hear the drilling outside my door?
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing constructed out.
1:06:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, like, uh, that side.
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you hear it?
1:06:29
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I can't hear it.
1:06:30
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully it doesn't.
1:06:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:06:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't find my exciting to on background noise.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully it doesn't.
1:06:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:06:35
[SPEAKER_03]: But we go to the next shot.
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Cooley Bickey, Messay, large activation home in front of 450 fans.
1:06:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul, I did not watch the six band tag team title because the challenging team was carved out, you don't almighty in a way in rape.
1:06:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
1:06:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
1:06:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was exactly what you think and was.
1:06:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm cool.
1:06:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, not really, to be honest.
1:06:57
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a think just a thing about this entire, like, to or is just the other kinds such as rough, very rough.
1:07:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why I watched all of them.
1:07:05
[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, next round one, Odyssey defeated Hadecki Suzuki in 13, 23 with the journeys and Paul, I think people were skeptical of Odyssey's ability as a WWE performance center.
1:07:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Much like in the champion carnival against Zion he gets in there again someone I assume that he had a hand in bringing to this Can we know for sure?
1:07:32
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but no, there's plenty of circumstances Who the fuck else would want to bring in this guy?
1:07:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I know I don't but the point is he did nothing in that match against Zion He did nothing No, that design match was worse, but I mean yeah, I can't quite but whatever
1:07:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get why he just refuses to work with the guys he forces on the promotion.
1:07:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, Mitch in the WW discord pointed out the thing after the design match he heard that Hadecki's bat was putting together matches against inexperienced guys.
1:08:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is, that's a knock, that's a knock against Hadecki because usually
1:08:14
[SPEAKER_03]: When I think of someone at Kentucky wrestling ability, most of them can carry good people, can carry weaker opponents to something possible.
1:08:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but no, it absolutely is.
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, he very clearly does not.
1:08:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I think that might just be a limitation.
1:08:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, remember, right when, like, I mean, we say, like, die cheers, like, serviceable now, right?
1:08:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But he was, like, pretty bad early on in a big Japan run.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, this was when he had that match where Fiddek is Suzuki for the big Japan strong title, that was really bad, right?
1:08:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the time, we very much like playing Taiji for it was like, well, Taiji just sucks.
1:08:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, turns out it probably was just Taiji not being experienced enough and he'd definitely not being able to make up for that.
1:09:00
[SPEAKER_02]: why that match was so bad, yeah, and again, now that also makes more sense, by like, for example, whenever he wrestles like a young boy, those matches are always incredibly short, right?
1:09:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they always keep him, like, under five minutes, basically.
1:09:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, that makes more sense now where, like, he probably just doesn't know how to structure them if they don't keep them short.
1:09:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, some of those young boy matches are fun when he just
1:09:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, uh, types thing.
1:09:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
1:09:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and then the main event of the show, because it only had two tournament matches, Davey Boy Smith Jr.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Defeat of Shotaro Shino in 2007 with the backdrop hold.
1:09:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I don't know, people didn't like this either.
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was fine, dry, but there was some okay technical stuff in there.
1:09:47
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I take on this match.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_03]: What about you?
1:09:49
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it was serviceable, but at 20 minutes was too long.
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I get really kind of dragged for me by the end.
1:09:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you kept this a little shorter, probably would have enjoyed it a little more, but it just wasn't really anything to think it even to.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It definitely was better than, like, Odyssey, versus Edecki.
1:10:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's not like that's hard.
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, just kind of...
1:10:14
[SPEAKER_02]: pretty much nothing match just too long dry and just I think if anything this is like the match most emblematic of the tournament of just it's just being a big fed nothing really yeah and then we go to Kobe sample hall on the 31st of June of the 615 fans did you watch the undercard I do not yes I did for I don't know why did this to myself
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so fucking sick of the fucking havoc theme.
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't got these havoc undercut measures.
1:10:42
[SPEAKER_02]: A dog's red.
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so bad.
1:10:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like that's the only, that's my only comment.
1:10:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the entire undercut, like there's nothing here.
1:10:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a complete waste of time, don't watch it.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So we go to the round, the last three round, one matches.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_03]: We're working hard to feed Kuma Rashi in 15 or four with the final events.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Now to be fair, this should probably be in the discussion of one of the better matches of the tournament.
1:11:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought there was blow knock your socks off or anything, but just solid pro wrestling.
1:11:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
1:11:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the two guys going into having a decent match, but again, there shouldn't rank in the upper half of like the matches for the tournament, but it does.
1:11:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're going to the lower half matches in the tournament.
1:11:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And this was just a mess because they decided to do Hocotore of torture and we had Yeah, it means from Hocotore gone and everything like that And yeah, not do this.
1:11:43
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I would say even nine minutes was too long for this
1:11:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And then in the main event, Ren, I-R-B, defeated June, SIDO in 20 minutes with the Death Relight.
1:11:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we'll start with the positives.
1:11:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Great-looking Death Relight from, how do you do these big guys?
1:12:01
[SPEAKER_02]: That is genuinely impressive.
1:12:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, especially how spindly he looks.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:12:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has to do some real good caught training, actually.
1:12:08
[SPEAKER_03]: That might be it.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this was 20 minutes of these two, so it was just,
1:12:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Dry and boring, but I would be out.
1:12:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I didn't like the finishing sequence.
1:12:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, that was, but if you docked this down to 15, we could have some more nice things to say about it, I think.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely.
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there were times where I just like started zoning out real bad on this.
1:12:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And then so the triple crown champion's out.
1:12:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
1:12:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And then when we want to shouldn't keep a first ring in front of 339 fans for super no vacancy for house, which is, you know, not surprising and she keep up.
1:12:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually want to match this from the undercard on this show.
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, uh, whether to have a glass of hockey to go.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it was not.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-oh.
1:12:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
1:12:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to ask you a second motto to feed Rio in a way in 852 with the Argentine backbreaker.
1:12:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I was like, hey, that looks like it could be good.
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
1:13:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was.
1:13:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:13:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean it was it was a fun like little opening match to these guys right as I expected.
1:13:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I also watched Kenomium harm with Sasha and Sikki or Shilka defeating you.
1:13:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Maeliyaki at Ski, Aeliyaki and rising hat on 1443 when Musashi used a nitton in Cherm on Musashi on on Ski and after the match they beat up the Aeliyaki brothers to put some heat on their upcoming all-asid tank title match.
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Which
1:13:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think I said this was like this is exactly what was promotion has been missing.
1:13:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right?
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this this was like pop and light this was like I actually liked the entire structure of the match because like okay, would you say this was like a full healed her now?
1:13:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, put, like, for example, like Musashi, like, throughout the match, like, did more and more healers stuff, right?
1:14:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And like some of it, you could like defend over whatever, like for example, when he like pulled like you know, like into the way of like Adsky's like backspraying like elbow, right?
1:14:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But like well, why is you, my even there?
1:14:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's kind of different.
1:14:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's a bit of a thick thing to do.
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what, like you must be there.
1:14:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but then he like during the finish, right?
1:14:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he pulls up Adsky out of the pin, right?
1:14:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Adsky doesn't kick out, like he pulls him up and then hits his finish on him as the X of thing.
1:14:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And then in the post match, they beat him down,
1:14:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is I think exactly what this promotion is missing like I don't want like voodoo murderers back or anything like that But like I wouldn't something more like what like Musashi and Yoshiyoka was showing here But like you know the assholes that will beat you up that's that's what I want and that's what I think the promotion has been missing Everybody's just like playing paddocks with each other.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_03]: So, um, we go to the round two of the tournament, Rocky 100 defeated Davey Boy Smith Junior in 1550 with a cradle from Superplex, which I hate that spot.
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so fucking stupid.
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just contrived and stupid.
1:15:14
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, it was okay, match.
1:15:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It just went gave you boy Smith dryness, but how did try it yeah, and the Davy boy Smith like jobber right as a soul yeah, yeah It's like no, I can't you it was a final event.
1:15:29
[SPEAKER_03]: This is really how it should be booking Davy boy Smith junior.
1:15:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you should be losing to the Hondas.
1:15:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's literally yeah
1:15:37
[SPEAKER_03]: and the tournament they should be losing to the clean.
1:15:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because he had to go on for their final event and then Smith fought back and then put him in a superplex and then that's when the pit.
1:15:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all I have a lot to say about this batch pause, but I'm going to put my things.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Right now I obey defeated Zion in the main event of the show, which is crazy enough, because you feel like Smith versus LaHonda.
1:15:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you you owe too with the death rule that.
1:16:02
[SPEAKER_03]: terrorism, this terrorism.
1:16:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was five out of ten match, which exceeded my expectations when I woke up and I learned that this had been a 22 minute match.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew that before going into this, so maybe that's why.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I don't know.
1:16:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just very dry.
1:16:16
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like Zion did not do stupid things, et cetera, et cetera.
1:16:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Very dry.
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, they took some time between spots, whatever.
1:16:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But because I didn't, I don't know, it was 22 minutes.
1:16:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I was sitting, I was like, when I still remember, one of the only things I remember from this match is the 15 minute call where I'm like, I feel for real.
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_02]: If you've been going for 15 minutes, oh my god.
1:16:42
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
1:16:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And in that moment, I'm like, they can't be go, oh god, the stem when they're going 20, aren't they?
1:16:49
[SPEAKER_02]: No, actually at that point I was afraid they were going to go for it.
1:16:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so afraid they would go for it, or close to it.
1:16:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And luckily they didn't, I guess, to fit, I can't even say that the finishing sequence was as good as like I had with June.
1:17:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It was serviceable overall, but it was just nothing there for most of the match.
1:17:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if I was talking about, it was like struggling, like, like zoning out, like, I zone out a lot during this much.
1:17:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I really tried to pay attention, but it was just nothing to grab me.
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like two guys exchanging moves, like exchanging moves in the ring, and just like, it felt like they were both playing pro wrestler at times.
1:17:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And just, yeah.
1:17:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, the deferral add-ons I unlocked impressive, I will give them that, but like, man, can we just stop off the rain?
1:17:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I always sing as mattress.
1:17:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, I actually liked the tag team that he just formed.
1:17:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to be a lot of fun, but like this is just...
1:17:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe this is like your way, maybe way, like you see if he can develop into anything, you give him like a few chances to like go have longer matches, but you know what, I think he would learn more if he had longer matches with good wrestlers and not Zion.
1:18:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I would rather they do that instead of that.
1:18:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:18:16
[SPEAKER_03]: So, that determines how far it is that it's so far.
1:18:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, to be fair, we'll say it has chances to turn around.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously, we have, like, no more or was this kind of, was Ken to coming up.
1:18:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the big one.
1:18:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course.
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Paul, let's just quick before we go discuss this.
1:18:38
[SPEAKER_03]: So we have Ken to, this weekend, Ken to me, a Harvard scenario, no more.
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And Dysuke, second Harvard, is an Odyssey.
1:18:44
[SPEAKER_03]: We have Red Eye Abbey versus Relie Honda in the semis.
1:18:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And Paul, I think it's a huge story of Honda continuing to make it to the final.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's where he blows the guy that like he lost in the finals last year.
1:18:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe.
1:18:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.
1:19:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's Paul.
1:19:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's my, here's my, here's what I think they should do.
1:19:04
[SPEAKER_03]: What was the match at Odo Ward with Honda?
1:19:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but, sorry about him in, what was, who did Honda face the Odo Ward gym?
1:19:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, last month, last month, uh,
1:19:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Nay, are you no more?
1:19:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, how should he have crossed his, she's quite sorry.
1:19:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he did, yeah.
1:19:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So, oh, you think that redoing that as the final?
1:19:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And Han, as much as we say, no more I should win.
1:19:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think no more winning going to the finals and losing the Honda.
1:19:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's still establishes him back as a player.
1:19:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he loses that much.
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean true, but a Honda just had a title shot.
1:19:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, oh yeah, that's right, that's the thing.
1:19:48
[SPEAKER_03]: What about, what about no more just beating Honda again?
1:19:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we pushed Honda's eventual win another year.
1:19:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Honda Honda can weigh the other year.
1:19:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
1:19:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think 2026 is going to be here this year anyway.
1:20:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I would actually argue it would be later but early if they prototype Lund him on him this year.
1:20:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I think next year's the year you prototype Lund on,
1:20:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, because hopefully, Anzai will be back in the title for each other.
1:20:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:20:14
[SPEAKER_03]: And you want those guys in it, right?
1:20:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Mike, you know what could be the title match?
1:20:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm no one I like set myself up for like massive disappointment.
1:20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what could be the title match on December 31st?
1:20:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a guess.
1:20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yuma Anzai versus Noyan Amura.
1:20:31
[SPEAKER_03]: you think I was going to say can't over so no more that would also be the thing is win back but are they going to put the triple crown on no more of that to me as the big question I mean something fans would reject it is that exactly I'm stunned about him it's a like I can do it for long like you you have to hope that his body can basically hold up for
1:20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: free, free, free months.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if he wins, he will win at the end of September.
1:21:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, free months, basically.
1:21:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to hope that his body can hold up for free months.
1:21:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, about, like, let's say, like, no, actually it would only be what they even beat another triple.
1:21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that would be like one more triple, crown man.
1:21:13
[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be a triple crown match in Hokkaido on the Hokkaido tour.
1:21:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So he has to hold up for that and then would you even want to be like keeping him out?
1:21:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Like even if it's weird to keep the Triple Contramp in order to real world tag like I think you're almost kind of want to do that just to make sure he doesn't get injured.
1:21:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's that the word I perform in, but that's not the worst.
1:21:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like I think because again, it's the only time you read like if you ever want to do it now, it's the time to do it.
1:21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if if his body holds up a bit more, then like you can put the title on.
1:21:51
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't get in January and yeah.
1:21:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: If they put it if they if they actually put them on a contract on January and they sell it like, oh my, well, to be fair, I probably will have to rush to emerge today because I feel like if they start selling a shirt for him, like that will just sell out immediately.
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually,
1:22:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul, I remember now, I want to double check.
1:22:12
[SPEAKER_03]: There's another core kid in October before they go on the Hokkaido tour.
1:22:15
[SPEAKER_03]: So theoretically, I think Nomura, if they put it on, and we could have two defenses.
1:22:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Unless they want to do like a tactile, the match on something there.
1:22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I feel like now it's like the time, like if you ever want to do it, you do it now.
1:22:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
1:22:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think this is like your last chance.
1:22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Or potentially your last chance.
1:22:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:22:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, they sure.
1:22:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's really the best route.
1:22:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think Cantol over Anzai because the story is there and it isn't really one with and I and Nomura
1:22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but maybe that is a story, maybe maybe the story is like, you know, no more a kind of was the guy that was supposed to be the A's after Kento and I never got that because of injuries and I was facing the guy that did, you know, that was the guy that is going to be the A's after Kento.
1:23:09
[SPEAKER_03]: That is a great story.
1:23:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not against it.
1:23:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think drawing wise.
1:23:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I think kind of versus no more probably draws better.
1:23:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I mean, I'm not against that at all.
1:23:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, either, right?
1:23:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, Paul, how do you feel?
1:23:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Dice case second model one?
1:23:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not really, I'd like to ask a second motor but if this was like a second motor from five years ago, winning, I would be a lot more excited than about this current version of the second motor winning.
1:23:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:23:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Because then, so let's say if he wins, he probably just loses to June and then I don't know.
1:23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I really am not that interested and like,
1:23:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's the other theory, maybe I'm getting too out there.
1:23:53
[SPEAKER_03]: But look, Dysuke's undercards when he's not on, when he does have tournament matches, right?
1:23:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Angle machine note wasn't always do that.
1:24:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of these other freelancers don't.
1:24:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they want their claws and dysuke as a regular.
1:24:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they're going to sign him, but they want them as a regular, I think.
1:24:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think that's very obvious.
1:24:09
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, I do think that's very obvious that they don't as a regular The question is also, say as much that like X is going to be a guy that it's going to vote on Make it a little bit like that.
1:24:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I yeah, you sure.
1:24:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So my question is then do you sweeten the part by giving him
1:24:24
[SPEAKER_03]: a tidal rain and then he faces can't do it in New Year's or Anzir someone actually but again from a drawing perspective like is that really going to do that much though like it's it'll be a good match but you know yeah I don't brew it out but I would say it's probably like the third
1:24:41
[SPEAKER_03]: on my like plausible plausibilities.
1:24:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
1:24:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll say this in closing.
1:24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what's going to happen is keeping my attention even if this tournament has not been very good, I guess.
1:24:54
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's but it's like.
1:24:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you know more, it wasn't in it, then like, no one would chair on it.
1:25:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, no, no, like Nemora is like adding a lot of interest to this tournament.
1:25:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Odyssey is dark shit, like even aside from all of the other stuff, like that makes him odious to have around.
1:25:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a really bad wrestler.
1:25:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I mean, that's the performance center for you.
1:25:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, never has to be in anything that has been so terrible at putting out wrestler.
1:25:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, did you see the thing of like, of like, with die check was like, oh, yeah, I had this like amazing match in PWG and then they had me do like basic training, like a couple of days later, and it was like, what the fuck are we doing here?
1:25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: What is this?
1:25:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I saw that.
1:25:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, I mean, and they put audits on the main roster at one, you know, before you got fired.
1:25:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, you know, and that's, and some of the people they bring up to the main roster are horrible.
1:25:51
[SPEAKER_03]: yeah from you know so yeah that's anyway that's what talked about enough we just you know in the area we trust yeah not I don't know maybe that's a bold statement given him it's a three at it's maybe maybe that's the one we actually shouldn't be doing with no a little more I believe in him you know yeah well with that I guess we'll come back after the finals yeah because the and one should have kicked off by that
1:26:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the end one kicks off on Monday.
1:26:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, perfect.
1:26:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So we can talk about the first few shows of the N1.
1:26:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And we can talk about the champion kind of finals.
1:26:28
[SPEAKER_03]: And so until then, enjoy all the wrestling out there.
1:26:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Bye.