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- 1:55Unknown: Love to change that old world. Here we go on the familiar lyrics
- 2:00and the start of our two hours together, our little conversation,
- 2:04our quilting session, Chris.
- 2:06Chris joined me right before the show started, and it's Roger Sales, of course. Radio Ranch is the name of the show,
- 2:13and
- 2:14we get some cowboys and cowgirls and ranch hands that gather around and like to, you know, chew the fat around the fire, drinking coffee and all that stuff here at the People's Patriot Network, and always glad to have all of you out there. Don't know who you are, don't know where you are, don't really know where you are in
- 2:33relation to all this information.
- 2:35We try and
- 2:37distribute,
- 2:38make understandable,
- 2:40put into the public domain on how you can achieve
- 2:44true freedom, it appears,
- 2:47and it works and we know why and
- 2:52we try and help people come into the arena if you want to. We're not going to reach out and grab you and drag you in, okay, because it doesn't work like that.
- 3:01You've got to want to
- 3:04have that
- 3:05fire freedom burning in your heart. I think in a lot of people it goes down to almost where a fire will go out, Chris,
- 3:13but you still got some embers there, you know? And if you wave at it and blow on it and all the kind of things you do to regenerate it and put a little kindling on top of it pretty soon, it bursts into a bonfire
- 3:26and and and those are kind of people that we're looking for. They're looking for that right there. I didn't brush fires in the minds of men and women. Yep. Well, that's what that basically is what we do because I don't know of any, you know, I've tried it so many other ways
- 3:41over all these years and
- 3:43none
- 3:44of that works and this seems to work. So,
- 3:47that's about the best approach I know to keep my sanity
- 3:51in this whole shooting match too, you know?
- 3:54So,
- 3:55Chris is with us and and it's a Thursday of course and I don't have anything really burning in my frontal lobes to talk about here and kick off the show with but I'm glad you're along to help me carry the water bucket here, Chris because
- 4:11your life's pretty exciting. You got a pretty exciting life. I'm sure that's not all of your own design.
- 4:17Unknown: Well, yes, I have a long and distinguished list of adversaries who'd like to wipe me off the face of the planet. You mentioned one when I first called up this morning in the news. And, of course, I was
- 4:29out recreating on the dance floors in Las Vegas last night. And,
- 4:34you know, it's it's been kinda rainy monsooning here in Las Vegas.
- 4:39Sporadic showers coming in and going out. And I think, basically, the Desert Southwest is enjoying the same sort of weather
- 4:46anomalies or engineered designs.
- 4:49Unknown: Well, I think you're seeing the early the early stages of global solar minimum. You're seeing it all over the globe.
- 4:57But haven't you got... Didn't you guys get snow in the mountains here in the last couple of days or something out there? Pretty unusual weather for this time of year for Vegas. It seems like I saw an article about that.
- 5:09Unknown: Well, being that we're here towards the end of May, and we had 61 degrees last night,
- 5:15I would say that's a particularly unusual
- 5:18weather
- 5:20patterns that we're seeing here.
- 5:22The solar minimum
- 5:24as well as the whole shift,
- 5:27which is readily observable for those with eyes to see who pay attention where it used to come up, the sun that is, where it used to come up as opposed to where it comes up now has radically
- 5:38shifted to an alternative
- 5:40location.
- 5:41Unknown: Well,
- 5:43now the polar shift
- 5:46is magnetic.
- 5:48The way I understand it shouldn't affect where the sun rises and falls.
- 5:53So you're saying
- 5:55shifted or
- 5:56the magnetic poles? We are going through a magnetic pole shift
- 6:02and that's
- 6:03trackable and scientifically
- 6:05provable because the North Pole is moving and they track that thing
- 6:09very accurately.
- 6:11It's been moving for one hundred years or more, and I guess it probably moves all the time, really, but it's accelerated like crazy over the last twenty, thirty years on its movement.
- 6:23That...
- 6:25I was talking about it with Paul yesterday, it came up, you know, and I remember when I was still in The States and probably in the 80s when this came out. The first time I saw anything about it was on PBS one night watching,
- 6:37and the guy, the scientist that had discovered
- 6:40this phenomena was on there on the program and telling about it. The way it's interesting how they found it, they found it in rock strata.
- 6:49You know, when they're examining different geologists,
- 6:52they're looking at different species yes, yes, yes. And they can tell in there somehow because from the molecular alignment and stuff in the rocks they were studying that there was this dramatic pole shift. In other words, it's like a battery. You gotta, you know, when you put your little battery in your mouse or your device or whatever, you got the little one end with a bump on it, that's one charge and I think that's the positive charge and the flat one's the negative charge. Ain't that right, Chris? You're the electrician. Yeah.
- 7:20Unknown: The one that... The male is the positive and the female is negative. Okay. So And Go ahead.
- 7:29Well, I was just gonna say, I think what it relates to as near as I've been able to discern from some investigation and paying attention to some other smart people
- 7:37is that the Earth is on generally a twenty seven thousand five hundred year
- 7:44elliptical orbit around the sun. They...
- 7:47And they call that the precession, the movement of the earth around the sun.
- 7:51And as it proceeds around that orbit once every twenty seven thousand five hundred years, that's a fairly long cycle, long count, a boktun, I think they call it, in the South American tribes.
- 8:05We get closer to the sun,
- 8:07and the sun is exponentially longer that... Larger than the moon. And the moon generally dictates our tides and Right. Magnetic forces here on Earth substantially.
- 8:18But during that period of
- 8:20perihelium,
- 8:22the closest to the sun and the twenty seven thousand five year old processional orbit,
- 8:27the the elliptical
- 8:29fashion,
- 8:30a long
- 8:32circle, if you will, pathway.
- 8:35We get close to the sun and the sun is so much larger
- 8:39than the moon and its
- 8:41magnetic forces
- 8:42are so exponentially
- 8:44powerful, more powerful than the moon, that it has a decided effect of pulling on the earth in a different fashion.
- 8:53And I think very likely exciting
- 8:56the volcanic
- 8:58and
- 8:59perhaps earthquake
- 9:02occurrences to precipitate even more of them during that
- 9:06solar shift period of realignment.
- 9:09Unknown: Okay. Well, that's... Hell, man,
- 9:12that's pretty scientific and that's very correct and it is an elliptical type orbit.
- 9:18And... But basically,
- 9:21I've heard the approach on it that it's coming partially,
- 9:25at least I'm sure those forces have obviously an effect,
- 9:29be hard to deny.
- 9:32But that it's coming
- 9:35some of this disruption is coming from because
- 9:39we've got increased
- 9:41rays that used to be filtered out by the atmosphere.
- 9:45You know, mentioned it. There used to there's a place when I was in Argentina,
- 9:49you know, that part of the world is one of the most cloudless
- 9:54spots on the face of the earth
- 9:56because of the high nature of the Andes and the weather pattern, okay, and because of that fact,
- 10:02the UN put
- 10:05an
- 10:06observatory
- 10:07down there in a little town,
- 10:09I don't know, about 60 miles south of where I was called Malargua.
- 10:13It's right next to the Andes, a very pretty little town, real nice setting, But in that observatory
- 10:20there, around the countryside for
- 10:23hundreds of kilometers,
- 10:25you see these little structures. And I mean, you've got to understand that part of Argentina is just absolute flat desert, high desert,
- 10:32except you'll be driving along and there's nothing out there but this little structure and they're all over the place and what those are, are these receptacles
- 10:40to catch this type of ray.
- 10:43I remember what they call it, a gamma ray or what... Obviously
- 10:47there's a scientific identifier for it, but that catches them,
- 10:52and some of those rays pass all the way down to the center of the Earth, and because there's more and more of them, it agitates the inside makeup
- 11:02of the earth.
- 11:04Whatever the reasons are, this is the important thing and the point I wanted to make out of it without trying to take you to science class here,
- 11:13is
- 11:14that
- 11:15it's like
- 11:17it starts gradually. This is what they found out when they discovered it, and then they've been studying it ever since,
- 11:23is that as the...
- 11:26Whatever the magnetic forces are, whatever you want to call them, Chris, they start shifting
- 11:31from one to the other.
- 11:34It goes into an inversion, and there's a few of them that'll come along and shift,
- 11:39a few, and then as it goes along, maybe a few more, and it's a very gradual increase,
- 11:45but at some point they start streaming
- 11:48and when that starts happening and is when the flip
- 11:53is is imminent, alright? And it's the it though I likened it yesterday
- 11:58to
- 12:00and the way I think about these kind of things occasionally is like an a diver off of a diving board and you're going to do a front flip. You know, one of those multi curl things. When you jump off the board and you start your curve down, you tuck your hands and your head and that throws your body into that centrifugal force, all, you know, it's a gradual first, you throw it in just your hands, pull your hands in, and then as that thing takes effect, you're spinning like a top before you hit the water. And it's that same type of principle. I draw a corollary there. You may not be able to follow me. But
- 12:36Go ahead. I hope so. But, you know True.
- 12:40Unknown: Yes. You're curious? I actually did some diving in school and recall some of the centrifugal forces related to the spins and twist of
- 12:49one
- 12:50and a halfs or two and a halfs or three and a halfs and Right. Twisting
- 12:55things. And so it was quite complex movements
- 12:59Unknown: of your body to accomplish those things, and Lord help you if you hit the water wrong. Well, I'm a tell you, we're at the front end of that polar shift too already. I guarantee you it's just those... I don't know where it is the progress of that thing, but I know that the North Pole is moving
- 13:14compared
- 13:15to how it's moved earlier for fifty, sixty, one hundred years
- 13:19since they've been keeping or able to keep track of it.
- 13:23The rate at which is it's moving
- 13:26is really, really accelerated
- 13:28and not only in
- 13:30the speed
- 13:32of the movement of the pole, the true pole, but also in the distance that it covers.
- 13:39Unknown: Well, I can say with some certainty that I can observe
- 13:43by looking where it used to come up, the summit is, to where it comes up now. And I would suggest from observation,
- 13:52I didn't measure it, but it's somewhere between about
- 13:5515 to 30 degree or better pole shift that's occurred already
- 14:00here in the Las Vegas area. Of course, it occurs on a global nature that the pole... Globe itself is shifting.
- 14:07The poles,
- 14:09the positive negative charge between the north and the south are flexing and changing substantially.
- 14:16Unknown: If we go through that flip, it's gonna mess a whole bunch of stuff up because there's a whole lot of things that are dealt with on magnetism.
- 14:24And evidently when that happens, it can be pretty catastrophic.
- 14:28Don't know whether we'll see it in our lifetime or not, but it certainly is interesting
- 14:33anyway to me. It's,
- 14:35you know, a couple of things as you're talking about that. I remember when I was sungazing in a lot down in in especially
- 14:42in Argentina because of well, one reasons because nine out of 10 are sunny down there and you can do it a lot more. But
- 14:51where I was, the Andes were a couple hours away,
- 14:54so they were a little bit in the distance,
- 14:57and I would sit down on my back porch there in that little apartment I was in for five years,
- 15:03probably since y'all have been knowing me,
- 15:06and
- 15:07watch it and and because I did it regularly,
- 15:11daily, I could see the sun movement from spring, you know, through the seasons and at one part of the year, it'd be almost directly off at a 90 degrees and in the middle of the winter, I was shocked at how much it had moved, and I could be real conscious of it because I was in the same place every day, and all of the identifying markers, the telephone poles and the mountains and the tree, the big trees in the way and all that, and you really had a gauge.
- 15:39And it it amazed me. I think it's the first time in my life I've ever been that conscious
- 15:44of the movement of the sun. Hey, Shane. How you doing?
- 15:49Unknown: Hello, Roger. I'm just a little concerned because the, there were some tornadoes going through,
- 15:56Missouri.
- 15:57Unknown: Saw that, Jefferson, saw the
- 16:00Unknown: Missouri, and that's where my sister lives, so I was very concerned.
- 16:04And I contacted
- 16:07Unknown: her, and she's okay. Okay. She said that the tornado went through on the opposite side of the city. Okay. Well, that's good because those... I've been through those things personally, and they're no damn fun at all.
- 16:18They they came real close to level in a neighborhood next door to us when I was in Texas when I was young.
- 16:26So, they're pretty scary. That's common occurrence this time of the year, spring and the, you know, you get some air and and all of a sudden, the cold front comes gushing down and the mixture of that air causes
- 16:37causes those things.
- 16:40But gladly know. Day or? Pardon me? During the night. Yeah. Well, they do. They come on night. They come at all hours of the day,
- 16:49all day, night. Doesn't make any difference to a hurricane.
- 16:53I mean, to a tornado either. But
- 16:55I'm glad your sister was alright.
- 16:57Shane and I'm evidently
- 17:00there. I I just saw the headline. I didn't read the story. There's probably some fatalities and certainly a lot of property damage and stuff. Unfortunate.
- 17:10So let's see. Where do... Anything else? Where where would y'all like to go with
- 17:14Unknown: this show today? I have questions for you. Okay. Good.
- 17:19Well, you mentioned you were watching that sun down in the Andes,
- 17:24and we here in North America, and that's South America,
- 17:27does the sun
- 17:30move to the South or to the North in South America whenever comes to the winter? It moves to the North.
- 17:36Unknown: It it goes opposite.
- 17:38Unknown: And That's kind of
- 17:40Unknown: that's interesting because here at Ecuador,
- 17:43I'm 10 miles south of the Equator,
- 17:47and
- 17:49haven't been in because of the terrain, I haven't been in a spot where I could do what I did in Argentina is really mark,
- 17:56you know, sundown and sunset because it sets behind clouds
- 17:59I mean, behind mountains.
- 18:01But
- 18:03the
- 18:05sun rises and sets
- 18:07at the same time
- 18:09every day, and I believe at the same place every day.
- 18:16The
- 18:17only people that have... That that doesn't affect are people like me when we go through the time change
- 18:24because they... To hear hear in these other countries where they don't do that foolishness,
- 18:28everything else just stays the same. But to me, I gotta shift everything in my life an hour and it... Man, it messes me up. I'm I gotta tell you, it just messes me up big time, and then in
- 18:41the in Argentina,
- 18:42when it went through the shift,
- 18:44I... It was a two hour difference with East Coast time. Here, it's just between central and and Eastern. It pops back between those zones.
- 18:53Well, in Argentina,
- 18:55was either an hour or over in Bermuda time,
- 18:59and now that meant that if you needed to talk to somebody on the West Coast,
- 19:03now you've got a six, seven hour time difference and it really caused,
- 19:07you know, not all the time, but sometimes problems.
- 19:11I
- 19:12like Ecuador
- 19:14overall much better.
- 19:17Certainly the climate here is,
- 19:19man, the climate is just a marquee reason.
- 19:23If you're sensitive to weather and that kind of stuff and as we get older,
- 19:27I know people like cold weather less and less, you become, I don't know whether you become more intolerant to the cold weather, but you become more intolerant to what you accept
- 19:38in life.
- 19:39That's real
- 19:41reason. Everybody agrees on that here,
- 19:44you know, no matter what they think about the culture or anything else Hear, hear. They love the climate because it is spectacular.
- 19:53Food's good. I think, you
- 19:56know, I can walk outside my door right now and pick at least 100 avocados,
- 20:04limes, lemons,
- 20:06all that stuff just grows everywhere.
- 20:09Either trees that are --: You mean you don't have to walk them all either? I don't have to guacamole for for nothing on... That what I do have to do with the avocados
- 20:17is fight the dogs for them.
- 20:20Because if you don't pick them and they hit the ground, the dogs are gonna get them or the rats, and they absolutely
- 20:26love them.
- 20:28That tells you right there they're good for you.
- 20:33So,
- 20:35Unknown: but no, this is... Yeah, I hear avocados are good for you. Avocados
- 20:39Unknown: are fantastic for you. It's a real... They're fat,
- 20:43but it's real good fat,
- 20:44you know. And
- 20:48I guess at some point I'll get sick of them. Everybody down here says, Man, you have avocados
- 20:53to every way you can have them, you know. And I said, well, have you tried frying them yet?
- 20:59I need some of those fried avocados.
- 21:03So
- 21:05Unknown: maybe I'll I don't know if you like, chips.
- 21:09Make guacamole
- 21:10dip.
- 21:11Unknown: Yeah, no, they got... I'll tell you what else they've got down here that's pretty interesting. The locals
- 21:17and the indigenous grow
- 21:20that old cone corn,
- 21:23you know, it's the
- 21:25modern corns,
- 21:27what I understand, every bit of yellow corn in the world is now GMO,
- 21:32so I try not to eat Genetically modified. Yes, but here they've got the old corn that hasn't been, except popcorn.
- 21:40Popcorn is not GMO,
- 21:42that's what I've come to understand.
- 21:46But this is like what you'd almost call hominy corn, like hominy grits, you know, those big white kernels and the corn isn't like
- 21:55just all the way down shape of the cone. It's of the cob, it's an actual cone and they
- 22:03do a lot of stuff with that. Cook them and put little cheese and stuff on em and all that but
- 22:12fruits
- 22:13that you've never not even seen before but that you can't even pronounce the name.
- 22:19All that kind of stuff. It's it's an it's an interesting place to live but what really solid solidifies
- 22:25being here for me is
- 22:27our... The support group because we've got a wonderful expat group here, and that's... I don't think that's common all over the world for people that have left the country and living in different spots,
- 22:39And that's a real positive
- 22:42because of Jack and Patrick
- 22:44and the friends that have been here so long, and we pretty all well think alike and get along pretty well. So that's kind of a nice situation.
- 22:54It's relatively
- 22:56close to The States.
- 22:57You need to fly back. It's five hour flight. It's not that nine and ten hour one to
- 23:04south real down to Argentina in the southern part of the continent. It's
- 23:09just all in all a pretty nice place to be. I don't know that you could get the climate, and of course that's what
- 23:15older people, especially people in retirement want, generally,
- 23:19is a nice climate.
- 23:20I don't think you can get this climate
- 23:23for the amount of money that it costs to live here anywhere else on the globe,
- 23:29in all honesty.
- 23:33Tell me about it. It's a nice place down here. It's a pretty nice place. You're a little bit different, you know,
- 23:39not a little bit different, probably quite a bit different, especially if you're, you know, haven't
- 23:44lived out of the country at all and whatnot.
- 23:47You go into
- 23:49understand the language and the all the... Everything's new to you and...
- 23:54But it's a pretty easy transition to this one. This is a soft Spanish landing
- 23:59compared to getting thrown into Argentina,
- 24:02not speaking the language, not knowing the culture. That was a very hard Spanish landing.
- 24:08Unknown: Yes.
- 24:12Unknown: So
- 24:13anyway,
- 24:14all that stuff.
- 24:15You know, the world's just going to hell in a handbasket real quick. The
- 24:19economy,
- 24:21we're right on the edge of the cliff.
- 24:23I was looking at a story, sending out to a couple of you yesterday, the ones that are financially oriented, and there was a that says, was, of course, a zero hedge article, and the headline said
- 24:36something about this chart.
- 24:38And
- 24:39you could look at it and look at it over the last twenty
- 24:43years or so, and they had
- 24:45correlations in there and we're about ready to step off the cliff. It was a, I don't remember if it was a bond chart or what, but you didn't even have to understand it, all you had to do is look at it and see the relationships
- 24:58and
- 24:59we're just very close. The trade war accelerates.
- 25:04All these things are
- 25:06coming somewhat simultaneously.
- 25:09Their ability to hold their scam together, they're losing part of that as it continues to disintegrate
- 25:15behind the scenes. Even some of these big... One of the biggest hedge fund
- 25:20guys in the world pulled out today.
- 25:23Let's see here. Where's the article here?
- 25:25Tepper, David Tepper
- 25:27is his name,
- 25:29and he is
- 25:31an
- 25:32Appaloosa. Appaloosa
- 25:35must be the name of not only a horse, but his hedge fund.
- 25:39The Appaloosa
- 25:40billionaire
- 25:41is planning to return all the money to investors
- 25:45after more than two decades of running his hedge fund. He's gonna move back into a home office. So when you see those kind of things happening and all the confusion out there, we're real close.
- 25:58Unknown: Though... Those of us... Yeah. As I understand it.
- 26:00Pardon me? As I understand as I understand it, Deutsche Bank is,
- 26:06at 6.44,
- 26:09on
- 26:12Unknown: Their stock? 6.44.
- 26:14Unknown: Yeah. Their stock is is way, way, way down. Oh. Below 8. Well, that's...... Some status.
- 26:21There was... One bank, y'all gonna go.
- 26:24Unknown: Oh, yeah. Well, that's a that's a canary in the coal mine of course and I'm glad you brought that up. Did you get that information
- 26:32from the
- 26:33from the Greg Hunter interview wins from Wednesday?
- 26:37From yesterday? No, I'm
- 26:40Unknown: sorry. Got it from
- 26:42Financial Turmoil
- 26:44Unknown: Explained. Okay, well I would suggest anybody in the audience if you want to get one
- 26:50of the newer... This guy
- 26:52Hunter interviews yesterday,
- 26:56Nimis,
- 26:58something like that, used to work for Goldman Sachs, got his own firm, highly reputable, heavy cycle guy, and he was talking about that in the interview. Greg questioned him
- 27:09quite a little bit in-depth about that point right there. And
- 27:14his, I believe, statement
- 27:16was if it goes down to $6,
- 27:19it's it you're cooked.
- 27:22And so, yeah and and that's a that's a big one. Shane, I mean, the derivatives
- 27:27unwinding.
- 27:27I think today and I haven't seen any stories about it yet, but isn't today the the European elections?
- 27:36Unknown: Yes. It is.
- 27:38Unknown: Mhmm. Yep.
- 27:39Unknown: The forage.
- 27:41Unknown: Yeah. That's... You know, I like that guy. I just... I I don't know. It's not that I like his Powell. I mean, I like what the politics that I see in his speeches previously and I think he's extremely
- 27:53personable and charismatic
- 27:55and witty and all those kind of things. He must be doing something right because they tried to kill him a few years ago
- 28:03when he was driving back. I mean, I don't know if y'all... If you were paying attention to this back then, but... More than once. Ed Patrick's joined us, but he was driving back from... The European Union session had
- 28:16ended, and he was driving back to London
- 28:19from Brussels,
- 28:20and two of the lugs on his wheel came off, and he luckily went over somehow
- 28:26on the side of the road and didn't kill himself, but the people, when they came to get the tires fixed, they said, this is deliberate. Hey, Patrick. So when they're trying to kill you like that, you you know, you gotta be doing something right. How you doing, Patrick? Something right. How you doing, Patrick?
- 28:42Unknown: Yeah. That's right. That's right.
- 28:44Doing
- 28:45okay. Been been reading about this five g and studying this stuff. I'm
- 28:50fixed to go back to an analog phone. This thing got a little radiation box I'm carrying around talking to y'all. Yep. And
- 28:57realizing it's a military grade weapon
- 28:59Unknown: really when they when they wanna use it on us, they're gonna use it on us. They can. I hope you don't talk when you call us, any of you, with your head up to the phone.
- 29:10Man, I never put I say you'd that thing be three feet away from it. Shoot, I never put that thing close to my head if I can help it.
- 29:17Unknown: Let
- 29:19me ask you this. I use a headset. Does it does it transfer to the headset? No. No. You're you're a lot safer if you use a headset. I
- 29:28got you. We use one of those... The the biggest, baddest parent they use because it works on the highway and driving. In general, people look at me crazy wearing it all the time, but it... It's... So I get so I get a 100...
- 29:40Unknown: Over a 100 calls a day. Oh, I'm sure you're goes with the tip. You you almost need to have it implanted.
- 29:50Unknown: Don't know about
- 29:52Unknown: the 5D. There used to be things, and I've seen them along the line,
- 29:56that cut the radiation the phone emits
- 29:59that you can somehow put on your phone,
- 30:02and supposedly they work if you hunt around and you're concerned about that or ultra sensitive to those things,
- 30:08as some people are, you might want to hunt into that because
- 30:12I believe that the things that are out there have some effect.
- 30:16As for five gs,
- 30:18pretty interesting. They're rolling it out. There seems to be a lot of
- 30:22some grassroots
- 30:27rebellion about it and even, man, there was an article in, I think, the New York Times, I saw the headline about it, and its possible This health effects on
- 30:38is what Cliff High said,
- 30:40and I see articles, a couple lately,
- 30:43talking about it. So
- 30:45you know what quantum?
- 30:48Quantum is the next step from
- 30:51where we are now that they're really working on. Quantum?
- 30:54Unknown: Yes, quantum. Quantum leap. Yes. You know, under this Supposed to be a...
- 31:00There's supposed to be a quantum financial
- 31:02system,
- 31:04the QFS.
- 31:05Unknown: Well, it's a type...... Making right here and now. Yeah. Well, I don't know about the financial system, but it's as
- 31:11it applies to the internet and the way I understand it, because I'm not an expert here, okay?
- 31:18Particles have, like the dialectics we talk about here, everything has an opposite.
- 31:23While a particle has an opposite,
- 31:25okay, and what you're doing instead of communicating
- 31:29from one point to another,
- 31:31you've got particles
- 31:33that are associated on both ends and it's virtually instantaneous,
- 31:38the reaction,
- 31:39and
- 31:40they can mold this into a form of computing
- 31:44and
- 31:45take that into
- 31:47all of these technical areas,
- 31:49except it just walks circles
- 31:52around anything we've got out there now.
- 31:55And what Cliff, in one of his recent interviews, there are a few months back,
- 31:59I don't remember if it... I think it was with one of the ones with Sarah Westall,
- 32:03okay, and
- 32:05because she's all concerned about five gs, she's real health oriented and all that stuff, which is fine, and
- 32:12Cliff was telling her, he said, Don't be concerned about five gs.
- 32:15He said, What our information
- 32:17shows is it's real,
- 32:20real heavy capital intensive in the rollout.
- 32:24All they gotta put up because the signal doesn't go very far is the problem,
- 32:29okay? The way I understand it, Chris, can correct me, you may know some of the technical stuff here that I don't but the they've gotta put those little
- 32:38receivers up all over the place because the signal doesn't go too far and so that's why you get a Yeah, lot of
- 32:45that a lot of intensity
- 32:47of it because the damn little receivers or broadcast units, whatever they are, are everywhere.
- 32:53But it's real real to lay those things in in that kind of concentration
- 32:58with all of the other
- 33:00basic stuff that's needed for the five gs network is extremely
- 33:06cost
- 33:08heavy on the front end,
- 33:10and so he said what happens is we get a little ways into this five gs thing
- 33:15and they start really finding the keys to quantum,
- 33:19and quantum is virtually not expensive at all compared to the high capital rollout on five gs, and that basically it puts five gs on the side, back up on the shelf.
- 33:31So, and I don't know. Listen, Cliff's
- 33:35not always right, you know. He'll be the first one to tell you that. But I take his stuff
- 33:41with more than a grain of salt, okay? I mean, I'm not totally skeptical. I know that the guy's got a pretty tremendous track record because I've been following him for twenty years, okay?
- 33:52So I take I see the quantum stuff coming,
- 33:56and
- 33:57when that comes, boy, if that... All that technology comes on that fast basis with
- 34:04not much heavy capital intensive
- 34:07requirements up front, it's gonna be a real game changer,
- 34:11and it's coming. Yeah. Here
- 34:13Unknown: here in California,
- 34:15the first, I guess, city, count... County, whatever you wanna call it, is gonna be San Bernardino.
- 34:21San Bernardino is gonna be the first install install
- 34:25the
- 34:27Unknown: five g network. Okay. Well, I'm sorry for the people that live in San Bernardino.
- 34:32You got my deepest sympathies
- 34:34and apologies.
- 34:35I'm sorry these people Yeah. Continue to try and kill us and and do all this stuff that they say is so good for us,
- 34:43and the best thing you can do is exactly what the Bible instructs us to do is to come out of her, okay?
- 34:51Come out of her, my people, come out of her. It says it very plainly twice
- 34:55there in Revelation 18.
- 34:57Now, as I contemplated this so many years ago,
- 35:01you know, that's a pretty interesting
- 35:05statement, come out of her, because
- 35:07you can come out of her in many ways.
- 35:10You can come out of her politically,
- 35:12like we can do with the affidavit,
- 35:14you can come out of her financially
- 35:17by not having,
- 35:18you know, all of your eggs in her basket and diversifying
- 35:21into gold and silver, cyber currencies and stuff and you can come out of her geographically.
- 35:27You can move your butt but when it says come out of her, which does it mean one or two or all of those things?
- 35:36Does it mean come out of her as much as you can get your butt disassociated
- 35:40from her? That's the way I took it.
- 35:45Unknown: Yeah. It's if you come out of all of them, you know, it's knowledge is imparted, it dawns on you. If you got any kind of conscience,
- 35:52Unknown: intelligence about you, you you learn to get on more on a narrow path. That doesn't say that you don't have to deal with her. It doesn't say don't have any dealings with her. It says come out of her.
- 36:04Having dealings... Don't know if it's a buy, sell or trade. Well, having dealings or having commerce with them, if you're a different status,
- 36:11well, you know, everybody else in the world does commerce with them, and they don't send the EPA
- 36:17or the OOSHA
- 36:19or health and human services or SWAT teams. They don't
- 36:23send them over there and start invading their countries, and they're doing commerce with them.
- 36:30Unknown: Yeah. I agree. Well, you know, they got a thing in China now. They're building a social number where you
- 36:35can't get a public ticket or travel or do anything unless you fit a criteria. It comes down to food and all that. That's just a model
- 36:41of shadows of things to come. And I believe that these
- 36:45zones will be built in us, like you said, in your in your wrist or your your head. You'll have your numbers good and bad, who you are, your status,
- 36:53what you can and can't do, and
- 36:56Unknown: might not happen in our lifetimes, but it's all right before us. And Well, they'll have the capability. It is for They got the capabilities to do it. The Chinese have kind of perfected that system over there on those Arabs in that part of their country right now today.
- 37:11And you're in a virtual jail
- 37:13where you can't get a taxi, you can't book a flight, you can't get on the subway.
- 37:19I guess they still let you wipe your behind, but that may be one of your few privileges.
- 37:26Unknown: That makes sense. We're just we're just guinea pigs on the wheel. I mean, even the guy, the pink Floyd, what was his name? Waters. He saw the pictures of it. We're just a brick on the lawn. Hey, he's still around, man. Another brick in the lawn. You know, there's one. I got tip. I'm you brought his name up. I listened to something he narrated the other night called the turning point and it's... He has become such an avid
- 37:48Unknown: anti Israeli,
- 37:50anti Zionist character,
- 37:51and he's got such a high profile
- 37:54that they have a real hard time with him.
- 37:58Unknown: They'll knock him off if he goes too far.
- 38:02Unknown: Well, no, he gets to a point... You see, they get in a dilemma. Let's take me,
- 38:07let's take me with this information here.
- 38:10When they really
- 38:12can knock you off is when not too many people know what you've got
- 38:17because then they can silence it, okay,
- 38:20but once you get the information out,
- 38:23then they're dealing with all of the little hot spots that you've created for them, and if they come back and knock you off, then all they do is make you a martyr.
- 38:34That's exact... They don't like it, I don't know if you've noticed, they don't like martyrs too much.
- 38:40They've been dealing with one for a couple thousand years now and they don't like it one damn bit.
- 38:47Unknown: Yeah. Yeshua said they'd hate us.
- 38:50Unknown: Including the stones. Well, you know, I want to reciprocate
- 38:54because I certainly detest them and the way they live, the way they look at life, the morals and what a lack of morals, you know, or whatever you want to call them,
- 39:06principles that they teach and wean their children on
- 39:10so that that damn way of thought and this activity coming from those ways of thinking proliferates
- 39:17generation to generation from these damn monsters.
- 39:23Unknown: They don't hear his voice.
- 39:27Unknown: Okay.
- 39:28You're
- 39:29better than everybody else. Why? Because you'll lie, cheat, steal, and do all this murder and do everything else to get what gets you in a position of power, authority, and control. That's why you're better because you'll do all that stuff and those other wimps won't.
- 39:47Unknown: Yeah. I've never met any of They're real strong at heart and I've dealt with a bunch of them. And I'm sure they got their certain
- 39:54breed of them that are just as manly as we are, but... Well, I'll tell you what...... Most part.
- 39:59Unknown: And and I I I shouldn't paint a broad brush because there's some fine Jewish people out there,
- 40:05and there are some people that are fighting against these forces,
- 40:08and a lot of them around the globe. They just don't ever get very much press.
- 40:14Okay?
- 40:15Mondo Weiss, there's a number of these. Mondo Weiss is a big anti Zionist, the Jewish
- 40:23publication.
- 40:24A guy named
- 40:26Blankenstein,
- 40:27I think, he's a reporter, he's kind of a young redheaded guy,
- 40:31has got the Gray Zone Project, a website that's associated with them but is his own deal, and they're constantly criticizing
- 40:38and pointing out the hypocrisies and all this, and so there is a faction out there, and you see that if they're going to correct the Jewish problem, it's got to be corrected from the inside.
- 40:51It's gotta be corrected from the inside.
- 40:54We can't correct that problem.
- 40:58Know, the only way that you can correct them honestly,
- 41:02it would be to kill every one of them, okay? And we we ain't gonna do it. That ain't gonna happen, alright? It's gotta be corrected by their
- 41:10own from the inside
- 41:13standing up and exposing it.
- 41:17And until... If I know somebody that's Jewish, until they're really ready to to to do that,
- 41:22you know, you want to ask them, three,
- 41:25do you do you believe in the the
- 41:28the Talmud?
- 41:30Are you
- 41:31do you advocate Zionism and are you in favor of Israel? Those would be three good little
- 41:38litmus questions.
- 41:40Unknown: They, yeah, they're not going to do a credit succession situation.
- 41:45Unknown: So...
- 41:46Unknown: It's not it. They don't hear they don't hear our credit. They don't hear the the master's voice. They don't hear it through the tears. They talks about the New Testament. It's it's gonna have to come to a head.
- 41:55The man that makes everything we see, do, and touch come back and clean the game up. We made a terrible mess up.
- 42:01We're just in a little test run down here to see if we'll overcome
- 42:05and then come true before we get a spirit being in the in the next version.
- 42:10Well, I know one thing I was
- 42:13Unknown: ahead, Patrick. Continue.
- 42:16Unknown: That that that that... It's just that the disturbing thing of the five g is I'm
- 42:21gonna have to head back to an analog phone, learn how to text on a, you
- 42:24know, a keypad with with ABCs on it. And and I can live without the text when people hit them with me, and I can certainly enjoy the analog. But at some point, they're gonna take that away. That'll be old news. They'll throw it out the window. So, you know, where do you where do you head after that? Because the world where... You know, I find myself stuck
- 42:41as a businessman with a phone, the record business, the lifeline, you have to answer the phone.
- 42:46And I hate it with a passion, you know, that's why I'm trying to come out of her and end up somewhere in South Mississippi growing watermelon,
- 42:53have a landline,
- 42:54and I don't have to worry about a a phone number. I got a buddy of mine that I have cocktails with once a month, and he...
- 43:00He's a bartender. He doesn't have a phone.
- 43:04And he said, my life runs just fine. He said, people know where to find me and get in touch with me when they need to. They can send me a letter. You know? And
- 43:12Unknown: I thought I was very admired. I didn't have one for years. I just got one a couple of years ago, one before I left Argentina.
- 43:20I fought it for a long time.
- 43:24They do
- 43:25give you tremendous convenience,
- 43:27okay?
- 43:28And that's, of course, how they get us ensnared ensnared in all kinds of things is convenience.
- 43:34And they can be a tremendous tool. I just try not to overuse it. I never use it to do web stuff. I don't do emails on it. I use it as a phone and to summon Uber,
- 43:46you know, or to send
- 43:48stories around the guys. I don't... I used WhatsApp as a fantastic app. I'm sorry Facebook has taken it over and done all the crap they've done to it, but it is used by huge amounts of people all over the world. I don't care if they hear what I'm saying, it's just like using Skype. I remember when I was still in The States,
- 44:09and W was in, and on a Monday because I stay on top of the news and stuff so much, I saw that he had signed an executive order dealing with communications and stuff on a Monday of that week,
- 44:23okay? And it was it was in the summer months, I think, June maybe
- 44:28and at
- 44:30the end of that week, on Thursday and Friday,
- 44:33Skype went down for two hours both days in the afternoon
- 44:37and that's when they were installing the sniffer equipment,
- 44:40okay? So, Skypes had
- 44:43backdoors and listened to everything that goes on for,
- 44:46alright, at least ten years because that was before I left The States.
- 44:50I don't care if they hear what I say.
- 44:54You see, that's the difference, Patrick and audience. That's the difference in once you get your hands around this information,
- 45:02file that paperwork,
- 45:03and start incorporating
- 45:05that into your life and become empowered.
- 45:07See, then things like that don't mean a damn thing to you.
- 45:15Unknown: Maybe they'll learn something.
- 45:17Unknown: Do what, Shane?
- 45:19And maybe they'll learn something. Well, I I do hope that they'll learn something. Well, you know, somebody's sitting there listening.
- 45:27But the point of what I was just saying is the empowerment that you go through with this.
- 45:33And it's not an event. It's a process.
- 45:36Okay?
- 45:37And it doesn't apply.
- 45:39A process. It applies to everybody except people in unusual situations like our friend Chris,
- 45:45okay?
- 45:48Chris, any update on your passport app?
- 45:52Unknown: Yes, please.
- 45:56Unknown: Chris, you there?
- 46:00I know you're there. Okay. So he's off distracted or something.
- 46:04Well, I think he's there. No, he may have hung up. Chris may have left us. I didn't see him leave. Well,
- 46:10I I don't if I'm sure that if he had any updates on it, he'd let us know about it. So, I'm assuming that.
- 46:17Unknown: That hasn't. I got an update.
- 46:19You got an update? Okay. Update us. Yeah, the books books came in a couple days ago and Good deal. Armed mom
- 46:26and Ike with it.
- 46:28And
- 46:29I tried to get him to go in there and read the definitions. He said, no. No. No. I'm starting at the front.
- 46:34And he read the
- 46:36first two or three pages we were standing there. So
- 46:39I'll
- 46:39Unknown: I'll pick on him tomorrow and see where he's at. Well, you tell him that that forward, the first two or three pages, was written by a great patriot,
- 46:49okay, and a dear, dear friend of mine. I miss him because he's gone,
- 46:54And he's one of the finest men I've ever known.
- 46:58Unknown: Patrick. Yep. Was it was it that Garrett
- 47:00guy? Garrett guy? No.
- 47:02Unknown: His name's David Strait.
- 47:05David Strait. Okay. Well, you put his name in there, didn't you? Well, he he put put his name in there. He wrote the forward. We had to trim it down by about 20 pages.
- 47:16But
- 47:16he's a fine guy, man. You'd really like him, Patrick. He was a man. He was a guy. He everybody's everybody's man. Women loved him. Guys loved him. He's six foot eight, self made multimillionaire,
- 47:29and put all his money where his mouth was.
- 47:34Unreal.
- 47:34And
- 47:35Unknown: just all and around good
- 47:39Unknown: I just really miss him. Let's see who's trying to get me some information here if there's Tito.
- 47:46Okay.
- 47:47So anyway, he wrote that and
- 47:50lot of my understanding of this
- 47:53was generated
- 47:54in late night sessions because I'd go out to his house every Thursday night and we'd cook a dinner and sit there and talk
- 48:02till sometimes the wee hours in the morning. And David was a tremendous devil's advocate
- 48:09kind of guy. You know those personalities that just like to be devil's advocates
- 48:13on every issue.
- 48:14I know he did. He was real good at it, and he would sit there and always play devil's advocate, and we could
- 48:21and
- 48:22discuss and work these things out, and much of my understanding of what's going on that I teach you guys came out of some of those late night sessions,
- 48:31fine guy.
- 48:35I think Ike will really appreciate
- 48:37the second half of the book
- 48:40because,
- 48:41quite frankly,
- 48:43Glenn and John wrote a masterpiece in that legal argument.
- 48:49Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. That'll be up his alley. That's for sure. Yes. I
- 48:53Unknown: mean... And I'm gonna tell you, I know that because I know what I originally wrote in the manuscript,
- 48:59and after they got finished editing the book, sent back to me. And I remember the day,
- 49:05and it was in Argentina,
- 49:07and I lived close to a real big park at that point,
- 49:10and they got a lot of what we call cottonwood trees, they call them alamo trees,
- 49:15and there's a bunch of them that have big leaves and it was in the fall, and I went out and sat under a couple of those trees in a beautiful afternoon
- 49:23and sat at a concrete
- 49:25picnic table and read it.
- 49:28And when I read it, I cried
- 49:31because I knew how powerful it was.
- 49:36Unknown: Every now and then you get Very powerful. Difference.
- 49:40Unknown: So wow. See that coming. And I never talk about it that I don't give them credit, okay?
- 49:47Because
- 49:50they deserve it, quite frankly.
- 49:56So, Patrick,
- 49:57you told me you'd shifted your Sabbath from Wednesday to Thursday. So, today is your Sabbath now?
- 50:04Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. It changes the with the Vernal Equinox in March 21 that the solar Sabbath Enoch and Moe, all them guys kept it back in the day. We count a calendar as three hundred sixty four days, not three sixty five like Gregorian.
- 50:17And it'd
- 50:19take three days and a gallon of scotch, but if you ever be interested, I can send you about a 28 page,
- 50:25you know, next rotation on it. And when
- 50:28I found out the Nazarene text was rewritten by the tribe,
- 50:33they put over 32,000
- 50:34mistakes in the 66 books,
- 50:37you know, which is Yeshua and Yahweh being
- 50:40god and lord, bell worship, and
- 50:44just going down the path. He's leading me down to the truth, and I've realized that I have to go back and and take the Hebrew and and his context and
- 50:52the Greek and look the words up and realize what they're really saying to us. And it it said,
- 50:57let no man Peter but live. I judge you by your your... What you eat or drink or your new moons, which should have said new months.
- 51:03That's when the light went off for me that I was following a Jew... A Jewish written
- 51:08Sabbath which we were keeping.
- 51:10It might... It it could fall on any day each month because when the moon changed,
- 51:14we kept it. And of course, when they had the galactical war in the second heavens, the archangel Michael and
- 51:20Satan and
- 51:22and and all that went on there prior to the Adamic race being put here. They knocked the axis of time off to 29.5
- 51:28and
- 51:29sort of thirty days. And
- 51:31as you get down and start studying this stuff, you realize that you've been lied to.
- 51:35And there's just so many deceptions deceptions in in that that book. Book. And And when you go over and take those 14 books, those occupiers and read them,
- 51:42then it starts straightening out a lot of this mess. And that's why they wouldn't canonize them because it would reveal them.
- 51:47And then they got what? 5% of Dead Sea Scrolls released. They won't release the rest of it. That tells you something right there. Sure does. So,
- 51:54you know, he he he sent us to the light. You just gotta keep following the fast trust and even learn how to let go. And I'm I'm... They're trying to get me in the stall to run the race, and I keep kicking, trying to not go in there to make the race. You know? I just... I'm I'm
- 52:08I'm at the derby, but I just... I'm fighting like hell to get get quarantined.
- 52:13Unknown: But I... But the freedom's on the other side once I get released. Well, you're real close. I'm just trying to work on me. You're real close. That's the only thing we can work on is ourselves. That's the only thing we any of us can do anything about
- 52:24and
- 52:26I I know from our relationship and your calls into the air and and and our talks and stuff that you're real close to getting your arms around this. It's not...
- 52:35When you really get it at some point, you're going to go, How in the heck did I have so much trouble with this? Because it's not...
- 52:41What they've done is very simple. It's the complexity that they've executed it, that it we're having problems with, and the effects it's had in our minds.
- 52:50In other words, you are enslaved in your mind. You sit there and tell em, yes, I'm in voluntary servitude every damn time they ask you.
- 53:00Unknown: Oh, they're programming me. They... About what I see, do shirts, and read in the media and wake up and think I have to have and do. I don't need all this stuff. There's a I'm fighting the flesh. I'm not even talking about what you're saying. I'm talking about... That's that's one strong catalyst to release me politically
- 53:13financially, but I'm just talking about the everyday argument of the flesh just trying to do the right thing
- 53:18and not let it control me in my mindset and how they've used it against me to make me think I have to have
- 53:24this beautiful wife, this big house. I have to acquire all this stuff. I have to get out here when really none of that stuff makes me happy. My... The simple things make me happy. Mhmm. The relationships that I have with people, you know, and our critters trying to see how we're gonna treat each other.
- 53:39You know? How we act ourselves. I mean, that's that's not about it's not about me. It's not about me or conquering it. Simply being a good steward of what's been given to me and realize that at the end of the day,
- 53:49I'm nothing without him and I'm everything with you. You know, I gotta be able to lean on trusting something I can't see, do, and touch. That's hard for old boy grew up, you know,
- 54:00thinking if I can't touch it and see it and hold my shotgun on it, it ain't worth fooling with.
- 54:05Unknown: Yeah. I understand. Whatever it worth.
- 54:09Unknown: I get the message, man. I get it. It's it's empowering. I was led to you
- 54:14through the spirit, the holy ghost. I guarantee you.
- 54:17And I'm led the truths that way. And it... It's it's like in the lily pond. I'm jumping across getting my feet wet, but he hadn't allowed me to fall in yet because
- 54:25evidently, he's got some kind of use for me.
- 54:27Unknown: Well, everybody wonder why sometimes the pond Well, he's...
- 54:32I tell you, you have a big use in in our
- 54:36project and the way it's progressing because of your unique situation,
- 54:40your unique personality and
- 54:42knowledge and background and attitude, okay?
- 54:46But
- 54:48it's real
- 54:50good feedback for me to see these things happening and to be able to reach out there and touch you guys and have guys like Shane,
- 54:58okay,
- 55:00that have been around for years and
- 55:02been greatly affected by the information,
- 55:06probably the most unlikely of suspects.
- 55:10I mean more.
- 55:11Changes that it's had on Shane in his life, you know, and
- 55:16all of you out there, whether you call in regularly or not, and I don't know how to what degree you take this information, but I can promise you, you
- 55:27gotta overcome
- 55:28the fear.
- 55:29That's the big deal they've got. The big obstacle
- 55:32is this fear blockade they've put up in front of people and until you can get through that,
- 55:39it it it isn't anywhere near as
- 55:42empowering or fulfilling.
- 55:44But once you overcome that fear barrier,
- 55:47you gotta get the knowledge,
- 55:50you'd be best to start off on the path and have some personal experiences
- 55:54that are empowering,
- 55:55like getting these things done that you would have been very scared to approach in the past, and you break through that fear barrier,
- 56:04and all of a sudden everybody does everything you want to, and life doesn't substantially
- 56:09change,
- 56:10you know, I mean once you file that paperwork,
- 56:13people don't start bowing down to you, and when you walk in a room, know, they don't shoot fireworks off and all that stuff. Life doesn't change,
- 56:22but you become empowered.
- 56:24You change.
- 56:25You see? The change is in you because the enslavement
- 56:29is in you. I
- 56:33Unknown: look at myself as having a bunch of chains hanging on me. And the day will come, they'll be broke off politically and financially through
- 56:40what you teach, what, you know, the creator allowed you to figure out.
- 56:44Unknown: Took a long time to figure it out, did it? Hundred years of more than one hundred years of three men's lives are in this project at this point.
- 56:55Don't think that's Inception of words. Well, you know, and Patrick, I I don't know whether you've heard some of the stories, the the
- 57:02path that this information
- 57:04has taken,
- 57:05okay?
- 57:06But I can give you, I can give you a couple of quick examples
- 57:10that I think illustrate it.
- 57:12At one point, after John had become when you start fighting the IRS,
- 57:17generally
- 57:18people have problems at home,
- 57:21but not all the time. Rare exceptions is that you'll have spouse
- 57:26that's of the same mind, but most of the time it causes great consternation and problems at home,
- 57:34okay? And it's been the course of many divorces,
- 57:38suicides,
- 57:40split families, lost businesses,
- 57:42all that stuff. I've seen it happen personally, people I knew.
- 57:47Well, when that happened to John and he got estranged from his family,
- 57:53at one point, Patrick,
- 57:55he had a friend there in Denver that had a carpet company,
- 57:59and at one point John lived in... He had a warehouse in the back,
- 58:04and he lived on a mattress in the back of a warehouse of a carpet company
- 58:10for
- 58:10sixteen months
- 58:12so that he could read court cases twelve to sixteen hours a day when his eyesight was so bad he had to use a damn magnifying glass as thick as the bottom of a Coke bottle.
- 58:28Unknown: Dedicated, wasn't he? Okay.
- 58:30Unknown: That's the kind of sacrifice
- 58:32that my
- 58:35predecessors
- 58:36put in. Fifteen
- 58:38and a half years in federal prison.
- 58:43For
- 58:44teaching. It hurts. For teaching the truth.
- 58:50Unknown: What did they arrest him for?
- 58:52Unknown: Oh, hell, man. They had one of those deals that they had, I think, against Glenn. They had 90 charges.
- 59:02So they just railroaded him. It didn't matter what he said or Look, they didn't do it. Hard done quite. They didn't do any... They didn't do anything wrong, but they were getting them off the street.
- 59:12Here's
- 59:13basically some of the background on this whole
- 59:16body of information.
- 59:18John
- 59:20had been researching this for years. He'd always been interested in the law
- 59:25even when he was young,
- 59:27but as he got older, his career, he worked for a civil service air force, I think, in contracting,
- 59:35okay? So, he was a civil service contract expert
- 59:39and so he became particularly interested at that point in contract law and then even above that, he became interested in tax law.
- 59:47So, he started studying
- 59:49all of The US tax stuff, but he already had a base and an interest of all of this substantive law and origins of law and common law and all that stuff.
- 1:00:00So he's going along and he's written all kinds of stuff. He's a very quiet kind of guy,
- 1:00:05not
- 1:00:06physically
- 1:00:07exceptional
- 1:00:08in any way, a little kind of rotund guy,
- 1:00:11very shy, never raised his voice. I've never heard him raise his voice, Patrick.
- 1:00:16Everything that happened all the years I ever knew the guy.
- 1:00:20So
- 1:00:22he was at a traffic seminar
- 1:00:25in Bullhead City, Arizona,
- 1:00:28and
- 1:00:30Glenn had been studying traffic law. He had a year of UCLA law school under his belt. He'd gotten out of his naval
- 1:00:38marine stuff and commitment from the Naval Academy,
- 1:00:41and he'd become really interested in the traffic issue, and he went to this
- 1:00:47conference they had and their paths crossed.
- 1:00:51Okay, so that's how this happened.
- 1:00:53If that wouldn't have happened,
- 1:00:55John would have probably died with all this stuff piled up in the closet and it would have gotten thrown away.
- 1:01:02Alright?
- 1:01:03So
- 1:01:04John and Glenn comes in with all his energy and pizzazz
- 1:01:08and says, Let's make a business out of this.
- 1:01:11And John had found in the IRS code in the regulations,
- 1:01:17in the applicable sections of the regulations now, where if you'd been misfiling
- 1:01:22in your status,
- 1:01:24you could go back and correct your status
- 1:01:26and file ten forty NR returns,
- 1:01:29which I suggest none of you do strongly.
- 1:01:33File ten forty NR, those are non resident alien returns,
- 1:01:37and they give you three years of your past income tax payments.
- 1:01:42The first few people, so they built a business on that, and
- 1:01:46we paid them, I think it it was $1,500
- 1:01:48to go through the course,
- 1:01:50and they'd show, give us the paperwork, show us how to file all that stuff, and you're supposed to get three years back of tax returns.
- 1:01:57So that was the business
- 1:01:59formula.
- 1:02:00And so when they got all this together,
- 1:02:03they sent it to the IRS in Philadelphia,
- 1:02:06which is where you file nonresident alien
- 1:02:09filing processing center, Philadelphia,
- 1:02:12and
- 1:02:14they sent all the information to Philadelphia and they wrote a nice little cover letter,
- 1:02:18and they said,
- 1:02:19This is what we're teaching, and we're going to be going around the country and teaching these seminars,
- 1:02:24and if any of your agents would like to come,
- 1:02:27if they'll show us identification
- 1:02:29and their badge, we'll not only let them in for free, but we'll give them free course materials.
- 1:02:35So the IRS wrote a letter back and they said, Well, thank you very much
- 1:02:40and we'll pass this on to the education department,
- 1:02:43which obviously they did
- 1:02:46because the Education Department just a couple of weeks later, the Education Department
- 1:02:51showed up with drawn guns and held them for eight hours while they took everything in sight.
- 1:02:58Okay? So, that's the origins of this.
- 1:03:05Unknown: Called the ABC boys out of them,
- 1:03:07Unknown: Let me and and what really happened is then they raided them. They raid three offices, I mentioned it the other day. If Glenn... Glenn was off in California
- 1:03:17doing something,
- 1:03:19and he called back into the office and he could tell that things weren't right,
- 1:03:23and so he immediately went to the bank because there was a branch of the bank they used in California and took out all the cash,
- 1:03:30or else they couldn't have been able to operate post the raid.
- 1:03:34So
- 1:03:36after the raid,
- 1:03:38then John and Glenn got the idea
- 1:03:41that they'd go back to Salt Lake City and run for office,
- 1:03:46and that's how I know you can go into the registrar's
- 1:03:49office
- 1:03:50and change
- 1:03:51your status from a voter to an elector because they both did it.
- 1:03:58We didn't know about the affidavit to the Secretary of State and all that stuff back then, but they somehow went in and got changed from voters to electors,
- 1:04:06and John
- 1:04:08started running against Orrin Hatch,
- 1:04:10and Glenn
- 1:04:11running against
- 1:04:12whoever the representative was in that area of Utah at the time, and they got out on the campaign trail and started talking about all this tax information.
- 1:04:24And I think that's when they really
- 1:04:27decided to come after him, okay?
- 1:04:30And because John and Glenn is such a great writer, and John knew the law just... I mean, I'd put him up against all the Supreme Court judges put together, in all honesty.
- 1:04:43So every time the government would try and do something with them, and they're coming after them there in the District Court of Salt Lake City, which
- 1:04:51is in the tenth Circuit.
- 1:04:53So And every time they get a ruling
- 1:04:56against them, they'd appeal it to the tenth Circuit. So, everything they did, they had to appeal to the tenth Circuit. Then, it'd have to go over to Denver and go through the tenth Circuit. Then, they'd rule on it. That point had come back. They'd bring up another point. They'd appeal it to the tenth circuit. So, it took em years
- 1:05:13to get em in prison.
- 1:05:15But
- 1:05:16they finally did it and they they put Glenn in for nine nine and a half years and John in for six because
- 1:05:25he's the judge said, he looked at Glenn. He said, I think you're the spark plug all this. I'm going to give you more time.
- 1:05:32So, that was the story and they
- 1:05:35were separated.
- 1:05:36Glenn originally
- 1:05:38was sent up to a minimum security facility in Northern Minnesota
- 1:05:42and John was sent to Petersburg,
- 1:05:44Virginia,
- 1:05:45a
- 1:05:47what do they call a low threat
- 1:05:51threat prison or whatever.
- 1:05:53But he was in his 70s and in poor health and that facility is one of the few
- 1:06:00un air conditioned facilities in the entire Federal Bureau of Prisons.
- 1:06:05And so
- 1:06:06they were separated for a few years.
- 1:06:10And then
- 1:06:11you talk about the Lord working,
- 1:06:13Patrick.
- 1:06:15Glenn wanted to get into this pastoral program they had in prison,
- 1:06:20and so he applied for it,
- 1:06:23and
- 1:06:24they had to send him to another facility,
- 1:06:27and the guy at the Bureau of Prisons sent him to the same facility in Petersburg,
- 1:06:32Virginia where John was.
- 1:06:34And they got to spend two two years together
- 1:06:37all day long
- 1:06:39sitting and talking all this stuff out on the tax system
- 1:06:43because they had the old books, they knew what was going on, but it took them those two years of being in the same facility,
- 1:06:50and in the early days they'd handwrite all this stuff out and they'd send it to me mail and I'd type it up because they didn't have a typewriter and send it back to them.
- 1:07:03Some point, Glenn was able to finagle a typewriter and they were able to do it there in Petersburg but
- 1:07:09some fat fingered bureaucrat sends Glenn out of the entire prison system to the same one that John's in.
- 1:07:18Unknown: Sleep
- 1:07:19at the wheel.
- 1:07:21Yahweh had situation
- 1:07:24that, you know what? Speaking about them when they called and told them what they were going do, that reminds me of a
- 1:07:29verse in the Bible. Yeshua said, don't let the left hand know what the right hand's doing. You know, wanna be wise as serpents and,
- 1:07:36you know, you you you sometime and I used to be that way with Ike. He'd look at me and say, shut up. I told you to shut up.
- 1:07:43He said, I I can't tell you nothing.
- 1:07:45And,
- 1:07:46you know, it's it's holding your card sometimes means a lot. Yep. But it would have been inevitable. I mean, they jumped on them. And and it... It'll happen again and again and again. It's their style. I mean, they they doubled down on me when I sue and went against the city. We're coming at them this morning. We just had a meeting with the other day about my inalienable rights of of being able to take off for my Sabbath. And they called,
- 1:08:07they had the barbecue downtown.
- 1:08:09Some guy that gave water to Saint Jude
- 1:08:13down at their tent. We pulled his car. He parked in the wrong place, walked off, thought he could do it. Calls, wants to get it. I said, sounds good. So
- 1:08:22he'd pick it up at sundown. It wasn't good enough for him. He said, I'm down here with, main events. You pulled 52 cars from them. You'll never pull for her again. I said, okay. Some would say.
- 1:08:33And I'm calling the mayor. I said, well, tell Jim hi.
- 1:08:36Lo and behold, I get a call from the permits office. They've got a The mayor sent over something. Can you get this guy's car? I said, yeah. I'll send somebody down dealing.
- 1:08:45So I got him out of there, but I... She sent me a letter shot across the bow saying,
- 1:08:50this ordinance says I have to release... Be available at 7AM, release 07/24.
- 1:08:55So we tried it on over two or three days later, showed them where the state and federal law backs me up that no
- 1:09:01person or no entity can
- 1:09:04make me not keep, what I believe in and serve our works involved
- 1:09:09in that.
- 1:09:10And, I put them on notice about it. Said, now, this this is how it goes. I said, by the way, why you had to call all these other record companies on a Saturday afternoon or Sunday and see if they let you come get a car.
- 1:09:22And I said, I'm all four people letting them have their cars, but guess what? I don't charge storage on that day either.
- 1:09:27And I said, I wind down on Wednesday afternoon. We just don't pull cars so people have time to respect to be able to pick up what's picked up that morning.
- 1:09:35I said, y'all are just overregulate.
- 1:09:37I said, you better get back to the basics of where we came from. And, and she was open minded. She understood.
- 1:09:43You know? And you have to... We got a new administration in there, and it's a lot better than the old one. And you have to hand each other olive branches,
- 1:09:49and I understand politics.
- 1:09:51But past administration,
- 1:09:52much as we hate to better suit each other, they never had a problem where I stood on that.
- 1:09:57And
- 1:09:58Unknown: sometimes you gotta go in and educate people. Well, this is a lot. Let me tell you what, buddy. If it just gets heavier from here on out,
- 1:10:06you're gonna have to really educate them after you make some of these moves down the line because you're gonna throw people some mental curveballs.
- 1:10:15Well, yeah. Yeah. And then they're just gonna they're gonna stick to the guns and do what they think they're supposed to do by the system. They're gonna. And not know and They're gonna stick to. Well, I'll end up in jail like John and him. No, you won't. They're gonna stick to their problem. No, you will not because what we didn't know back then was this Secretary of State connection. You gotta understand, John, John's whole life revolved around taxation and that issue,
- 1:10:39okay?
- 1:10:40And he, I had to sit down and explain this to him. Of course, they picked it up fairly quick,
- 1:10:46but they didn't understand this. We didn't know to sever the ultimate tie back That's
- 1:10:52the reason Patrick, when it first started,
- 1:10:55and we'd send those
- 1:10:57status correction forms, the affidavit. We take that affidavit that's still in the back of my book that I've used all this time,
- 1:11:05and we would put in the three past
- 1:11:09years for ten forty NRs
- 1:11:11and send all that package to the IRS,
- 1:11:15and the first few people, they sent back the checks for the three years in arrears,
- 1:11:21and that of course gave the whole thing credibility and validity from the start, so more people started becoming cognizant of it and getting involved,
- 1:11:29and when they realized what was going on, instead of sending you the three years in arrears,
- 1:11:35they sent you a $500
- 1:11:37frivolous filing penalty.
- 1:11:39If we'd have known
- 1:11:41to file that with the Secretary of State,
- 1:11:44first they could have never enforced that frivolous filing penalty because it's not a frivolous filing anymore.
- 1:11:51You see, and it tells you that the IRS isn't part of the government
- 1:11:55because in that system, if you didn't sever it, that connection with that person in the federal government, then the people on the outside, the IRS and the International Monetary Fund, didn't have to recognize it.
- 1:12:10Unknown: Well, you said not to file it, didn't you? You said not to file that three year ten forty or whatever. I said, don't, I said, what I said specifically
- 1:12:19Unknown: is
- 1:12:20do not file a ten forty NR.
- 1:12:25Unknown: Which was the three year
- 1:12:27rejudgment? Yeah,
- 1:12:29Unknown: for any year, it's called a ten forty NR, nonresident alien return,
- 1:12:33alright?
- 1:12:35But
- 1:12:36what I tell people, and it's funny, people just don't want to listen. They're under so much pressure, and I had this happen back right before the book was out. And this female friend of mine in Atlanta had somebody who was under a bunch of pressure from the IRS,
- 1:12:50and she had told him about this. He, of course, didn't sit down to study it and he wouldn't listen, and he was hell bent to send that affidavit to the IRS. He was already under a bunch of collection
- 1:13:01pressure, and it was putting a lot of pressure on his family, okay, and she called me and told me about it, and I said, Tell him do not,
- 1:13:09do not send that to the IRS if he hadn't sent it to the Secretary of State.
- 1:13:15And he sent it to the damn IRS and he got another $5,000.5000
- 1:13:22frivolous filing penalty put on him. What I suggest with people with this is get your slate clean.
- 1:13:29If you owe
- 1:13:31anything or you haven't filed or whatever,
- 1:13:33do the best you can to get your slate clean
- 1:13:37with these blood suckers,
- 1:13:39then file it with the Secretary of State, and then once that has been there even
- 1:13:45week,
- 1:13:46it doesn't make any difference, I don't think, on time, go back and write a very nice cover letter
- 1:13:52to the IRS,
- 1:13:53tell them that this has been filed with the Secretary of State, it's in your administrative folder,
- 1:13:59thank you very much, you intend to pay all the taxes that you're legally required to file. See you later.
- 1:14:07You'll never hear from
- 1:14:10No. I lost 69 that one. Now, what I was gonna say earlier is this is a... This is kind of interesting insight.
- 1:14:18When they popped John and Glenn,
- 1:14:21this is in 1992,
- 1:14:25okay, that's a long time ago,
- 1:14:28alright,
- 1:14:29when they popped John and Glenn, they had only been teaching
- 1:14:33six
- 1:14:34months.
- 1:14:37They didn't even let them go longer than six months putting this information out.
- 1:14:43At the same time, Patrick,
- 1:14:45there was a guy floating around
- 1:14:48named Phil Marsh.
- 1:14:50Does that name ring a bell with you?
- 1:14:54Unknown: Yeah, you spoke to him once before.
- 1:14:56Unknown: Phil Marsh
- 1:14:57was a guy that got upriled about the tax system and was going all over the country, wrote a book, he go whole, I went to one of his seminars
- 1:15:06when I first woke up right there real close to my house in Atlanta. There's when they when he was finished talking and I turned around, there's two fifty people standing room only, people out in the halls,
- 1:15:18okay?
- 1:15:19And they let Phil Marsh go for five
- 1:15:22years,
- 1:15:23Patrick, before they nailed him. They even let him get on ABC News one night with Stone Phillips
- 1:15:30for a whole hour and talk about the this tax stuff.
- 1:15:37Unknown: Really?
- 1:15:38Yes. You do what they they do with you rather cage enough. They gonna do what they wanna do. Well, had them run over me several times down here. Just come back at me, come back at me. Hell, I've been in jail for me and I can get the charges thrown out the next day and arrest both of us. Well, the point
- 1:15:52Unknown: I wanted to make on that story of putting the time into telling it is the fact that if you're when you're not teaching
- 1:16:01the
- 1:16:02the heart of the real stuff,
- 1:16:05they let you go
- 1:16:07but when John and Glenn were over the target,
- 1:16:10they squashed them like a bug best they could as quick as they could,
- 1:16:14okay? And that right there at that time and man, I didn't understand
- 1:16:20nothing.
- 1:16:21I had been hit with
- 1:16:23a drink of water out of a fire hydrant on all this stuff, and my head was still spinning,
- 1:16:28but I knew that the federal government did not react that fast
- 1:16:33to anything.
- 1:16:38Look, look at the damn We
- 1:16:40got hundreds of thousands of people pouring over the damn southern border for how long?
- 1:16:46A bunch? Years? They
- 1:16:48can't react to that and they can react to this in six months? And this was, like I said, almost thirty years ago.
- 1:16:56So
- 1:16:57right then at that point, I didn't know too much but I knew they were on to something.
- 1:17:05Unknown: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:17:07Yeah. It's it's,
- 1:17:09you know, it's it's how hard you wanna hit those wasp nest. You wanna keep smacking it or you...
- 1:17:14Unknown: Can you handle it or you just wanna hit it once? Well, you wanna hit it like a pinata and you want that some bitch to bust and all the goodies to come out.
- 1:17:23Unknown: Yeah. Really.
- 1:17:24Yeah.
- 1:17:25Well, when you when you tell these states that they're not gonna collect their sales tax for cars we're selling or or they're not gonna collect any kind of property tax or anything, or they're not gonna collect... Well, that's a whole another avenue down. The 2nd Avenue will run down.
- 1:17:38Are you... You know, excise you gotta pay, but I mean, you start telling that you're not sitting in this or doing that or you do it, you know, Patrick
- 1:17:46Lawrence, DBA, fat packs, or PB and J or whatever you,
- 1:17:50you know, use
- 1:17:51their own instruments against them. They're little fake names and
- 1:17:55fake entities that they tell you got to have. I mean, we're gonna fight fire with fire, but that's when it's gonna hit the rubber. Right. And and when I promise you, when I do this little business and I do it stand up as a free man like my forefathers,
- 1:18:07it... The fireworks are gonna be taken off.
- 1:18:09Well, you know, pastor One thing to it personally. There's nothing to do across the board. The deeper I get into I'm this to pioneer
- 1:18:16Unknown: it and make presidents. Well, the deeper I get into it, the more understanding that I get of it personally, the the the more I look at it conceptually, that happens, okay?
- 1:18:26I think that the key to success for anybody out there I'm going clear my throat here, wait just a second
- 1:18:33the key to success on anybody that's embarking on this
- 1:18:38is doing the preemptive things that set due process in motion,
- 1:18:43because there's one thing that they do recognize as due process, and they know how important it is, and once you file that, and you can...
- 1:18:53This doesn't necessarily have to be done in that order, you don't have to file it with the Secretary of State first, I think you can do all this other stuff locally first, but you got to put the due process mechanism
- 1:19:05into working,
- 1:19:06and that means putting proper notice out there.
- 1:19:09So that means for the people that are real concerned, and especially for you,
- 1:19:14because you're plowing
- 1:19:16unplowed ground here,
- 1:19:18in a sense, is
- 1:19:20to get it in the property records office there,
- 1:19:23What's the county of Memphis County?
- 1:19:26Main, what's the name of Shelby.
- 1:19:28Shelby County. Right.
- 1:19:30Get it filed. Shelby County
- 1:19:33Property Records
- 1:19:34Office down there.
- 1:19:36Make sure it's there. At that point, make sure that you got a sheriff and a chief of police both?
- 1:19:44No, yeah. I know both of them. Okay, good. It's good that you got a personal relationship
- 1:19:48because then you can hand deliver it to em and explain it to em and say, this is in the property records office.
- 1:19:55This is basically what it is, and it's also on file with the Secretary of State of The United States, and you need to know this because here's the repercussions for them.
- 1:20:06Should they, after they've been put on notice and you get caught in any of these things and them coming after you and all this stuff,
- 1:20:14now you can prosecute them in their personal capacity
- 1:20:18because they're acting outside of their delegated responsibilities,
- 1:20:22and you can start really putting the fear, especially with Ike there and your knowledge of process and your comfort level in the courts.
- 1:20:32Unknown: Okay.
- 1:20:34We've already done that. That's what we did that last suit. One, we did we we Right. We got them personally. We didn't sue the city. We sued the guys personally in one. Well, you can do that. Christmas parties, I'd hear back. They'd say, how in the hell is this guy doing this? The judge is crazy. They can't do this. We're protected by the city. And it... But little do they know. They...
- 1:20:52Little do they know. They... Their veil of protection has We got another one. They come back and did the same thing. Roger, they did the same thing
- 1:21:01to me again. An takes the case for free this time.
- 1:21:05I mean, it... Down here, they do what they wanna do. Yes. Straighten them out. It's a good process.
- 1:21:10And they told him this last time. Said, we're coming at you next time with our, you know, Ts Krausner.
- 1:21:16Eyes dotted because because we realized that we didn't follow due process because they would they would just, you know, arbitrarily
- 1:21:22not follow what was supposed to be fun. I mean, done.
- 1:21:25And we sleep, eat, and breathe this stuff, and we would pop it to them. And any of them. I've seen them.
- 1:21:31The whole bureaucracy. Think understand that and go crazy and the attorney say, woah, woah, sit down. And wait a minute, don't sue. Get with me. Run out of middle of the meeting and say, get with us. There is the repercussions,
- 1:21:43Unknown: the back lash of the system because it allows all these little Napoleons
- 1:21:47to think they've got all of this damn power that they don't have,
- 1:21:51and they start acting outside of that, and you're a perfect example of what can happen.
- 1:21:56They act outside of their delegated areas of responsibility,
- 1:22:00they become personal liable,
- 1:22:03and they lose their shield of immunity.
- 1:22:05Period.
- 1:22:06Now that's a hell of a weapon for us, okay, especially
- 1:22:10now with this because now they don't have any of that over you unless you harm somebody.
- 1:22:19Unknown: Oh, absolute power corrupts, and that's just exactly what happens. Okay. They're steering clear of us. I know they're listening to me. They're following me. They put out roll call
- 1:22:29only with the, guys about, you know, what kind of trucks are showing up and we request this, and I'll... And no doubt in my mind they're watching me. I've had them mention things that I only could hear from these phones
- 1:22:40years ago. And
- 1:22:42at the end of the day, I'm not afraid of them. But but, you know, so what? They wear a costume. I'm afraid of their costume and their Well pistols and guns. And, at at the end of the day, they put their pants on just like me, and they got a job to do, and I got a job to live free.
- 1:22:58And the
- 1:22:59quicker they learn to leave me alone, the better off they're gonna be or they'll bury me. I'm gonna... They they got a jail. I don't got one. Let me tell you what, you're about to, if you follow through with this,
- 1:23:09Unknown: I think you're about to throw a real hitch in their giddy up.
- 1:23:13And it's a hitch nobody's ever thrown in there before.
- 1:23:18Unknown: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's what you you and I both know. They make it up as they go, whatever ABC group they're in. Well, they do. To figure out how to trick you and then then Trump up charges on you that don't don't match. They can't they can't figure out how to overcome fraud, buddy.
- 1:23:36No. No. And it's, you know, trying to find 12 peers to judge me by is gonna be a little tough. Well, that's when you guys gotta get out there and educate more people and get them to file affidavits.
- 1:23:47Unknown: They're never gonna bring any charges on anybody
- 1:23:50and this is why because that affidavit sits in the Secretary of State's possession
- 1:23:55and that means it's it's admissible in any court and bypasses the rules of evidence. They're not gonna have that document come into any courtroom.
- 1:24:05Unknown: If the if they got enough sense, they understand what it means but what
- 1:24:09they're going to they're going they're going to cliche me as an as an an SC.
- 1:24:13Unknown: Sovereign citizens where they're going to hit. No. And it happened here in Memphis where they had a shootout. That's right. But now. National news, right? Well, you let them call you whatever you want and you stick that paper in front of their eye, their faces,
- 1:24:25and some of this stuff from the Secretary of State. I'm a US national. I'm I would never want to be a sovereign citizen.
- 1:24:32Okay? So, this is the key. They're going put this tag on you. I'm telling you, you you using their terms.
- 1:24:38They've gone to great lengths to turn these terms around, terms around to trick us
- 1:24:44and once we know the trick and we use the same terms, they've got no defense.
- 1:24:50Unknown: Yep. Yep.
- 1:24:52It'd be wise to see a good judge one day sit up and say, dismissed.
- 1:24:57Have no jurisdiction.
- 1:25:00Unknown: Well, you know, evidently, that has happened over there Scotland with the with the common law birth certificates. They had an incident that was is hearsay.
- 1:25:10What I'm telling you is hearsay but it comes from John, the guy that's doing this through Paul, okay? So, I think the hearsay line here is pretty solid and he, when they were first testing it, they had a woman over there who was about to get her house foreclosed on in three days, okay? And they went into court, presented the common law birth certificate.
- 1:25:32I'm told the judge stood up, said, I have no jurisdiction on this case, and walked out of the courtroom.
- 1:25:40Son, what a beautiful day. Okay. That's worth crying over. So that and and as I've said on here about that instrument,
- 1:25:49a common law birth certificate,
- 1:25:51I believe that it does the same thing, and now we're getting down to the real crux of what this is. It ain't nothing but a shift in the presumption of law.
- 1:26:01It's a shift in the presumption of law, it was done with fraud, and they have to recognize it.
- 1:26:09Think they're lawless, and
- 1:26:13we
- 1:26:13generally have reason to think that,
- 1:26:17but they have a peg, they've got their legal hat hung on, buddy, and by and far the most part, they follow it.
- 1:26:25Our problem is we haven't understood the rules.
- 1:26:31Unknown: Yeah. Well, it's been hit from us.
- 1:26:35Unknown: Been hit from us. Been hid from us many moons ago. And and the more this information gets out and the more people it touches and I realize that people, not everybody's gonna belly up to the bar like you, Patrick or Ike or Daryl or some of the other folks that are more aggressive with this, you know, but the reason they've gotten that aggressiveness is because they've got the information,
- 1:26:57they've got a command of it, they've done the preliminary
- 1:27:01steps like filing an affidavit,
- 1:27:03and they're going through the empowerment process.
- 1:27:06That's man, if you could remember and have heard the conversations when Darryl called in
- 1:27:13back at old ex wife number three here, how many? Three, four years ago in some of those early days?
- 1:27:20And see the change in him now to the assertiveness
- 1:27:25that you hear out of Darryl when he calls in here and pontificates
- 1:27:28with us.
- 1:27:33Unknown: Yeah.
- 1:27:35Oh, I listen. There's a lot of times I just listen like these other guys. I was, I don't even call in. I'm just running and listening. It's it's just a you know, I can't stress it enough. It's not an event. It's a process. You waking up to
- 1:27:47Unknown: the position
- 1:27:48of this as an event,
- 1:27:50but from that point on, it's a process of untying
- 1:27:54those knots,
- 1:27:55getting that information internalized,
- 1:27:58starting the
- 1:27:59re empowerment process.
- 1:28:04Unknown: And I
- 1:28:06Unknown: think especially for you, and I don't advise,
- 1:28:09you know, generally, I don't know that it's needed that the average person go and file all that stuff locally,
- 1:28:16you know, before they file it with the Secretary of State.
- 1:28:20But with you, Patrick and Ike, I think that'd be a real smart idea. Do you understand the reason that we did that is because that we were instructed to do that, is that
- 1:28:31John already understood the feudal system impact here and that the people were considered property.
- 1:28:37So if you're
- 1:28:39doing anything with the property of the county, you go and register it on the property rolls, don't you, Patrick?
- 1:28:47Unknown: Yeah,
- 1:28:48Unknown: but you gotta get away from that. No, no, no, hold on. Let's follow this for a minute because I got I'm there's a point I'm trying to make. Alright. Let me approach it another way. Where does the IRS file their notice of liens?
- 1:29:02Unknown: Something they can attach to, can Property records.
- 1:29:06Unknown: Do yes,
- 1:29:07but when they file one, where do they file it?
- 1:29:12Unknown: A lien, you'll ask, if you've got something that's tangible. That's not the question. Where do they place that?
- 1:29:18Unknown: On the property records Yeah,
- 1:29:24because I got letters on this thing about it. So now why, let's look at this a little bit, it says a notice of lien. The lien is actually filed on you in DC somewhere in the bowels of the International Monetary Fund, so that is a notice
- 1:29:38of a lien that they filed there locally.
- 1:29:41But on that document, Patrick, have you ever seen one?
- 1:29:45Yeah, I've had a few in my day. Okay, well on that document there's three pieces of information.
- 1:29:51There's your name,
- 1:29:53there's an address that's attached to you, and there's an amount that you owe, correct?
- 1:30:00Unknown: Yeah, frivolously. I went through it, yeah. Okay. So what
- 1:30:04Unknown: if you live in a rental house or an apartment and that's the address on the document?
- 1:30:12Obviously, you don't own that property.
- 1:30:14Now, who... What property is the lien on?
- 1:30:19It's on you. Yes, You're the villain. Yes, sir.
- 1:30:23Villain. Yep. And I... Listen, man. If you can throw that little question in front of all your high highfalutin
- 1:30:29lawyer friends,
- 1:30:32what property is the lien on if the lienee lives in a rental house or an apartment?
- 1:30:39Yeah. They don't realize their property. Here's a story. I'll tell you story, I know they don't, I've been doing this for a long time. Here's a story and I can illustrate that perfectly.
- 1:30:48As I was going through all this in the 90s, I'd lived in a house in Marietta for
- 1:30:54nineteen years when I ended up selling it,
- 1:30:56and I knew these IRS problems were coming
- 1:31:00because they focused on me particularly,
- 1:31:03and
- 1:31:05I didn't sell the house in time,
- 1:31:07and I thought with my rudimentary understanding of legal processes
- 1:31:12that if I went
- 1:31:13with liens,
- 1:31:15the standard
- 1:31:17identifying line is first in time in line. Now you know that, Patrick, because you deal in all this stuff, you probably put some liens on people, okay? So, the idea is when you got a workman's lien or somebody owes you money, you go put a lien on em and if you got yours in the day before I got mine
- 1:31:35in on the same guy and there's only enough money to satisfy you, you got all the money first because you were first and I was second.
- 1:31:45So first in line in time,
- 1:31:47okay?
- 1:31:48So I went and set up a... Got a bogus lien
- 1:31:52and filed it on my house from an offshore company.
- 1:31:56Okay? So when it came time to sell the house,
- 1:32:01we went into the closing that day. I was doing it without a real estate agent,
- 1:32:07and I'd sold it to this little couple that had had some problems with the previous house, they'd just gotten married, they fell in love with my house, it was their little honeymoon love nest, okay?
- 1:32:18And so they were just dying to get in there, and there's a saying in real estate that if anything goes wrong at the closing table,
- 1:32:27the only thing that you hear is the click of everybody's eyeballs
- 1:32:32as they click over and look at you,
- 1:32:34okay?
- 1:32:35And I heard that click that day,
- 1:32:38alright? And so, we're sitting at this table, this sweet couple, they're real nice people, I really liked them, and I had somebody there as a witness, and we're sitting around the table, and the closing attorney comes in and sits down and he turns to me and says, Okay, Mr. Sales, I need a check for $35,000
- 1:32:56some odd cents to the Internal Revenue Service,
- 1:32:59and that's when I heard the click.
- 1:33:02Okay,
- 1:33:03and so
- 1:33:04I had no choice, I said go back and redo the figures and take it out of the proceeds of the house,
- 1:33:10because I'd
- 1:33:12stretched it to the point, This was on a Friday and the the Monday
- 1:33:17was
- 1:33:19Labor Day. It was in September and
- 1:33:22the they were going to sell my house on the courthouse steps the following day on Tuesday,
- 1:33:28okay? So, I really had no choice. I backed myself into a corner. So, I turned to the attorney and I said, go back and take the closing and and take it out of closing and the he he turned to me and he made a statement and it didn't hit me. Patrick, this didn't hit me for over ten years,
- 1:33:47almost, okay?
- 1:33:48And he turned to me and he made a statement, he said, I don't know why, but IRS goes to the front of the line.
- 1:33:58IRS goes to the front Okay? Of the
- 1:34:02And so I felt like I'd been kicked in the gonads
- 1:34:06and it
- 1:34:07had a lot of effects on my life, okay,
- 1:34:10and it's part of the reason I do what I do today is to get that back
- 1:34:15exponentially.
- 1:34:17But ten years later, I'm sitting there and I go one day, I'm just thinking about it, and the answer is given to you.
- 1:34:24IRS always goes to the head of the line. Why?
- 1:34:28Because the lien's on you,
- 1:34:31not on the house,
- 1:34:32and you got to satisfy
- 1:34:34your debt before you can sell the property.
- 1:34:40That's why Well, you had an affidavit in place. Well, if I'd have had an affidavit, well, it would have depended on when all the IRS stuff started.
- 1:34:48I'd have put an affidavit in place post that, it wouldn't have had any effect on it.
- 1:34:54If they've got you in some kind of a contractual nexus
- 1:34:58previous to you doing this,
- 1:35:00going to get their pound of
- 1:35:02They're gonna get their pliant pound of flesh, flesh. Okay? And they're gonna try and
- 1:35:07slap you on the way out the door as hard as they can,
- 1:35:11which a couple of... A week or so later, I get a letter from the sorry thieving bastards
- 1:35:16and said, well, you only owed us 30,000,
- 1:35:20but we took an extra 5,000 for taxes we think you're gonna owe in the future.
- 1:35:27Unknown: Just in case. What
- 1:35:30Unknown: if you what if you file an extension and then you pull this affidavit up in the course of the next couple of months and then October comes and you don't file?
- 1:35:38Unknown: Well, let me tell you an interesting scenario
- 1:35:41that I pondered in my mind a bunch,
- 1:35:45and I don't know if we'll ever get the chance to use it or not, but hey, Darrell, welcome. You heard your name being thrown around there, and I'm glad you called in because maybe you can help us fine tune this.
- 1:35:59You got problems with the IRS,
- 1:36:02you can go in and do a settlement with them,
- 1:36:05and, you know, do an offer and compromise and all that stuff, but one of the things that they... From all the people that I've known that have gone through that, Tom Schramm being one,
- 1:36:15when they get you in there, they make you sign something,
- 1:36:19and in that you
- 1:36:22promise to file five years in the future of returns.
- 1:36:27So they settle
- 1:36:28up on what you owe, they get you in an agreement, and part of the agreement is that you agree to file 10 forty's for the next five years,
- 1:36:37okay?
- 1:36:38So,
- 1:36:39what if you go in and get the offer and compromise
- 1:36:43and take care of whatever the offer and compromise is,
- 1:36:48So you clean the slate on the money as best as possible, and you sign the document,
- 1:36:53and then you file the affidavit with the Secretary of State,
- 1:36:57and can you at that point, from that point, because your slate's clean,
- 1:37:03can you now just file returns that would be due for US nationals for five years, which in essence for virtually all of us would be zero returns?
- 1:37:16Unknown: Well,
- 1:37:18the first go around I had with them was
- 1:37:22when I bought a I bought a diesel truck and...
- 1:37:27When there's a George Bush incentive plan
- 1:37:30and took the deduction in one year.
- 1:37:33And
- 1:37:36the next year, they called me in and...
- 1:37:39Or my accountant
- 1:37:40because
- 1:37:41my accountant didn't want me to go in because I was so angry.
- 1:37:46And
- 1:37:49they did an audit and they said, well,
- 1:37:52you know, you didn't do anything wrong here. It's all okay, but
- 1:37:55we want $3,000
- 1:37:57anyway.
- 1:37:58And the accountant said, well, why? And he says, well, just because. He says, listen. If it... If your if your client,
- 1:38:07the taxpayer will agree to pay the... Pay me or us the $3,000,
- 1:38:13we won't find
- 1:38:14any need
- 1:38:17to audit him next year and the year after.
- 1:38:21And
- 1:38:23that was basically a quote.
- 1:38:26And
- 1:38:27so Eric comes back to me and tells me this, and he's... He was shaking
- 1:38:31because he he was a he was a, you know, sort of a goody two shoes, played by the rules kinda guy, everything's straight. He just... He sat there in this IRS agent
- 1:38:41shook him down,
- 1:38:44yeah, for me.
- 1:38:45And
- 1:38:46so I was really hot then. I I cut him a check,
- 1:38:50and I I... They shook me down. And this is back in 2008.
- 1:38:56And
- 1:38:59so
- 1:39:00then I moved.
- 1:39:05I owed him some money,
- 1:39:08And
- 1:39:09I'm not sure... I don't remember all the circumstances why I owed him money, but I did.
- 1:39:13I I got on a little payment plan with him. It wasn't a lot. It was, you know, some fiddly amount, like 4 or $5,000.
- 1:39:21And
- 1:39:23I actually got them all paid off,
- 1:39:26but it took me... I had to hire another accountant because their accounting...
- 1:39:31I had to hire a CPA to help them with their accounting because they were trying to double bill me.
- 1:39:38Okay?
- 1:39:39And and and once again, I couldn't talk to him because
- 1:39:43I was I was ready to spit nails,
- 1:39:47and
- 1:39:48I was angry. Okay?
- 1:39:50And I I could... I knew I couldn't talk to him because I was that mad.
- 1:39:54So I I would hire people to talk for me because it was just gonna turn ugly.
- 1:39:59And I wasn't gonna win, and I was in... Spot enough to know that. So I hired another CPA.
- 1:40:04We got that all cleared up.
- 1:40:07And then I I closed out a four zero one k. I had a bunch of other money come in,
- 1:40:14and I'd filed my taxes.
- 1:40:16And they came back with a review on or an amended thing and said,
- 1:40:21oh, actually your income was this much more. We need another $15 for it. Holy smokes.
- 1:40:27Unknown: And
- 1:40:30Unknown: put me in a different bracket. So, well, we need another $15. Well, I didn't have the $15 at that time laying around in cash.
- 1:40:37And so now I'm mad again. Right?
- 1:40:41Unknown: I'm mad again. Justifiably
- 1:40:43justifiably,
- 1:40:45may I say.
- 1:40:46Unknown: And and and so
- 1:40:49at this point, I had started digging in on some of this information a little deeper,
- 1:40:54and I knew I had to get clear of them. And so what I did... Okay. I'm not telling anybody what to do. I'm just telling you what I did. I I took...
- 1:41:05I
- 1:41:06had a bunch of plastic laying around here,
- 1:41:08and I didn't wanna go through their accounting system anymore.
- 1:41:12And I I sent them a
- 1:41:15I sent them a credit card for $15,
- 1:41:19and I paid the credit card off because I could keep track of the accounting.
- 1:41:23And
- 1:41:25the the year after I did that,
- 1:41:28I filed my affidavit,
- 1:41:29and
- 1:41:31I never filed with them again. But I cleaned it up.
- 1:41:33And I never signed any
- 1:41:35I never signed any cognizance that said that I would
- 1:41:41contract with him
- 1:41:44specifically
- 1:41:44for five more years. Yeah.
- 1:41:46Unknown: That's only that helps somebody, but I... You do... That's only when they're doing notice or or a
- 1:41:53final deal with somebody, generally. I... With Tom, they put him on a $100 a month payment plan.
- 1:41:59K?
- 1:42:00Unknown: But... Yeah. You you don't... Yeah.
- 1:42:03Well, you don't you don't wanna make deals with the devil. Okay?
- 1:42:06I'll... I think Patrick probably...
- 1:42:10I was listening to Patrick here today, and and he's... I I just wanna give him, you know, a pat on the back or high five or bump fist or whatever. You know? Way to go.
- 1:42:21I was listening to this, and two things came up to mind
- 1:42:26that I I wanted to share with you, Patrick, in particular, if he hadn't thought about it, him and Ike.
- 1:42:32And it's just more... Maybe,
- 1:42:34you know, another round in the chamber
- 1:42:37where you can use it.
- 1:42:39But study the study the... There's two terms I'm gonna give you. One is
- 1:42:44res
- 1:42:45and
- 1:42:46r e s. That's in Black's Law Dictionary,
- 1:42:50and it is called in rem.
- 1:42:54In rem.
- 1:42:56And so basically,
- 1:42:58what they're
- 1:43:00treating you treating you under as as a Roman citizen
- 1:43:04as a res,
- 1:43:07you're res.
- 1:43:09And when they
- 1:43:11when they apply their statutes, codes, and regulations to that
- 1:43:15in your contract,
- 1:43:17you're in REM.
- 1:43:19So you are a... That's why they want you to be a resident. They... Everyone... Everybody to be a resident because at that point, you're res.
- 1:43:27And then
- 1:43:29they drag you into their statutory
- 1:43:32Roman civil law
- 1:43:35matrix
- 1:43:37and proceed against you in REM.
- 1:43:39So these are...
- 1:43:41These words are very seldom never brought up and talked about, but they are applying to you because
- 1:43:48when you're REM,
- 1:43:50when you're in res,
- 1:43:53the...
- 1:43:54They treat you
- 1:43:56as a thing. You're a thing now. A person is a thing.
- 1:44:00And in REM,
- 1:44:04according to the dictionary here, says a technical term used to designate proceedings or actions instituted against the thing.
- 1:44:11And since you agreed to be a res, you're the thing.
- 1:44:16And they...
- 1:44:18So they
- 1:44:20they trap you in there and they won't let you identify identify yourself yourself
- 1:44:24in in personum. Personum. They They won't won't let let you you demure
- 1:44:27your your status in personum. They they hold you
- 1:44:32in that captive
- 1:44:33in that and
- 1:44:35when you understand the terminology and the words then
- 1:44:39I I think that gives you a
- 1:44:42little more depth and insight and leverage as to
- 1:44:46their spectacular
- 1:44:48vernacular.
- 1:44:49And
- 1:44:50Unknown: so... We had a site recently,
- 1:44:52a site I dug
- 1:44:54up off of a list of sites that somebody sent me on some of this stuff.
- 1:44:59We talked about it on the air,
- 1:45:01but it was a real clear, I think it was an appellate level,
- 1:45:05and the judge said, Unless the person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States, can prove they're not a citizen of The United States, the IRS can move on to assessment and collection.
- 1:45:18Now, that's real clear
- 1:45:20if you understand what we do, okay?
- 1:45:23So how does a person prove
- 1:45:26under their system that they're not a citizen of The United States? Well, the only way that they accept it is some type of documentation
- 1:45:32sent to Secretary of State.
- 1:45:36Unknown: Proof of your citizenship papers is a good start. Now,
- 1:45:40Unknown: Darryl, here's what they do when they're coming after you, if they were coming after Darryl,
- 1:45:45and they wouldn't put in rim in the style of the case. They wouldn't say
- 1:45:51US versus...
- 1:45:53Here's how they do it when they do those in RIM proceedings, and this is the difference:
- 1:45:58if it's an in RIM proceeding, it'll be United States versus $400,000
- 1:46:05and it'll say in rim, okay, up in the style of the case. The way they pull it off with you as an individual
- 1:46:13is in the first paragraph of every filing
- 1:46:17and indictment,
- 1:46:18it'll say, Darryl,
- 1:46:20a resident of... Boom.
- 1:46:22In the first paragraph
- 1:46:24of every court case, there are jurisdictional statements right there. You can't rebut it at the court level, you have to have rebutted it
- 1:46:34state at the top. Well. Okay? But that's the same thing. It's still an interim. Yeah. But they're saying you're a resident, not not a the specific
- 1:46:45auto or bunch
- 1:46:46of money or something. So, that's how they differentiate it. But it is the same thing.
- 1:46:53Unknown: Yeah.
- 1:46:53Well, I I mean, obviously,
- 1:46:56that's fraud right on his face because I am a citizen, but it's of heaven.
- 1:47:00Unknown: And I I... They didn't say citizen. Said... They don't say citizen. They say resident. See
- 1:47:06that? You know, you go back to the...
- 1:47:08Unknown: Go back to the... I'm a I'm a resident.
- 1:47:11Unknown: Code of federal regulations.
- 1:47:13Okay?
- 1:47:14In every one of those 50 titles, their jurisdictional statement is resident
- 1:47:19except for title 26.
- 1:47:21That's the only one that's different. Okay?
- 1:47:28Unknown: They...
- 1:47:29So I I I hope
- 1:47:31I hope some of that
- 1:47:33might come in handy for Patrick at some point in time because
- 1:47:38I think that with
- 1:47:40this course of on the course that he set for himself, we're gonna...
- 1:47:44We need to
- 1:47:47we
- 1:47:48need to help all we can.
- 1:47:50Unknown: Well, you know, I... I'm really pleased because Patrick and Ike, together with their experience and their personalities armed with this knowledge,
- 1:47:59they are going to be a formidable opponent up there in Shelby County.
- 1:48:06Unknown: Yeah.
- 1:48:06Well, I mean, you know, I I don't doubt it because of the conviction.
- 1:48:12We just always have to keep in mind that they had the keys to the cage and the bullets to the guns.
- 1:48:19And
- 1:48:20and,
- 1:48:22you know, there's been more than there's been more than one guy
- 1:48:26at different times,
- 1:48:29you know, dealt with.
- 1:48:31So, I mean, this is this is...
- 1:48:34I'm not trying to be fearful here. I'm just saying, you know, I I
- 1:48:37I'm listening to Patrick. I... I'm kinda glad to hear that he
- 1:48:42he has the
- 1:48:44perspective that he does, and he's he's being cautious.
- 1:48:48And he's he's walking in with his eyes open, and he's taking his time. So that's you really need to do that
- 1:48:54because,
- 1:48:54listen.
- 1:48:55I mean,
- 1:48:58these people play dirty.
- 1:49:00You
- 1:49:01know, you know, like you were talking about John and Glenn,
- 1:49:04they play dirty. Alright? They do play dirty. So...
- 1:49:09But but Patrick is... Are
- 1:49:12you still there, Patrick?
- 1:49:15Unknown: Yeah. I'm here. I I believe in one must suffer. One must suffer for others to gain, and that's just part of the game we're playing here. Yeah.
- 1:49:24Unknown: Yeah. Well, I mean, you got you you got something on your side.
- 1:49:28A couple things here. You got the Lord. You got personal
- 1:49:31conviction and courage, and and you're using your using your head.
- 1:49:36And
- 1:49:37and so I
- 1:49:39I appreciate that. And
- 1:49:42you've you've overcome the hardest part, which is,
- 1:49:47you know, people people in this arena
- 1:49:52area of interest,
- 1:49:54we we have we have spectators.
- 1:49:57You know? People are watching you.
- 1:49:59People are watching me.
- 1:50:01They... They're spectators. You know? These these same kind of people that wanna go to a boxing match but won't get in the ring.
- 1:50:08Unknown: You know what we call it down in the South?
- 1:50:11Unknown: You know what What do you call that?
- 1:50:14Unknown: Well, we used to coon hunt and get them out from the house, and the old lady at night, we had dogs, And some of the dogs were go getters, the other ones were me too dogs.
- 1:50:22The me too dogs showed up Me too dogs. Coon was was trapped in the tree. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The me too dogs.
- 1:50:33Unknown: Alright.
- 1:50:35Alright.
- 1:50:36Well, you know, the the... Yeah. I I I see. I like that a lot because I I I wasn't originally from the South, but I I did plenty of coon hunting when I was 10 years old up in Iowa
- 1:50:48on a farm. And we used to ride around in ice with 20 twos and spotlights.
- 1:50:53And I guess now we would have been to... Now they'd call us domestic terrorists.
- 1:50:57But we had Pioneer Secorn hats on, and we didn't have
- 1:51:01we didn't have a a rag over our head. But,
- 1:51:04you know, it's...
- 1:51:07Yeah. I I mean, you know, that's just facts of the matter. You know? You're gonna get a... You're gonna get part of this
- 1:51:13for some strange reason is that some people are attracted to watching, listening
- 1:51:18sort of on the... From a spectator point of view. And I
- 1:51:24I... I'm not at... I don't I don't really care about them people. I just don't really care.
- 1:51:29I'm I'm here to help people like you that wanna actually
- 1:51:33get on the wrestling mat and and and stick this thing. And
- 1:51:38so that's that's who I that's only... That's who I'm interested in. You know,
- 1:51:44Unknown: Harold, the spectator folks, and I know there's been more... There's more spectators than there are active participants.
- 1:51:51Okay?
- 1:51:52But the spectators
- 1:51:55give us
- 1:51:58a buffer, if you will, from the standpoint there's other people that understand this,
- 1:52:03and for them personally,
- 1:52:05as I've always said on here, at least you can get some sanity out of this. If you don't feel comfortable filing the paperwork, that's fine. Nobody's ever going to force you to do it but just by understanding what's going on, you have improved your life because you got a better handle and that all these things aren't really crazy.
- 1:52:24There is a system and things happen for a reason and you can start tracing them back and understanding them as you understand this information.
- 1:52:33If you don't know it, you can't.
- 1:52:35It can imagine all the people out there that are getting bomb
- 1:52:39every day with all of this contrary stuff in the media, and their heads are spinning like the gal in The Exorcist.
- 1:52:48Unknown: Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I I get it. I appreciate it. I don't I don't know what the time limit on somebody's
- 1:52:55time between
- 1:52:58awareness and knowledge and acting on something. You know? It's far a bit for me. But, I mean, you knew... You could ask that question
- 1:53:05about people who
- 1:53:09pretend to be followers of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You know, the people that can't say His name. Yeah. You know, you listen to you listen to people talk all the time and you never... They'll say God, and they'll say... They'll use all kinds of euphemisms
- 1:53:22for
- 1:53:22for
- 1:53:24God our Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and they'll make these little... They they... These little snide little sideline.
- 1:53:32It's like, you you ever hear Donald Trump ever say our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? I never heard him say it.
- 1:53:39You know? But they'll they'll they'll
- 1:53:42pretend they'll pretend with this
- 1:53:45this God
- 1:53:46God word. Okay? And they let you infer whatever that means. So, I mean... So, know, in our in in our faith, we have spectators too. They either... They they... And and what is... You know what... You know, if you're a spectator, you know, what you're watching is a spectacle.
- 1:54:05And
- 1:54:06and and so,
- 1:54:08know, like I I like I like to say, you know, Patrick appears to me to be the kind of guy that's gonna show up at the at the arena, and he's gonna get in the ring.
- 1:54:17And
- 1:54:20and, of course, that's the only way that you have any effect. It's like being
- 1:54:24it's like being,
- 1:54:26you know, a follower of of
- 1:54:30our Lord and Savior. You know,
- 1:54:33if you have that Holy Spirit in you, you can't help but do. You you... You're not saved by your works, but you can't help but not. You have to do it.
- 1:54:43Okay?
- 1:54:44And and so right there, for me, it separates the weak and the chaff because if you have that Holy Spirit in you, you have the boldness and the courage
- 1:54:54because you put your faith in him. And that's what pushes me forward.
- 1:54:58And
- 1:55:00so I'm I'm just saying I'll I'll hold up there. I
- 1:55:04I hear it in Patrick. I do hear it in Patrick.
- 1:55:07Unknown: So... I do too. And I'm real pleased that you found us, Patrick, and that you're of a mindset you are and you got your sidekick there, mister Ike and I think you're you guys are going to have some real sterling successes up there.
- 1:55:22Unknown: We will. We will. Let me give you a. I'm looking at a graduation picture invitation to my son. I named him George Lawrence because I'm curious George, and I wanted to get picked on and be tough. And and George Patton, he was one of my favorite
- 1:55:37book reports. And he sent me this card, and on the back of it, it says,
- 1:55:42let me... It says, lead me, follow me, or get out of my way.
- 1:55:47And
- 1:55:48you think Iacocca said that? He did in some terms, but it was a it was a
- 1:55:53saying from George Patton, the third
- 1:55:55army general.
- 1:55:57I often thought that he knew what was going on, and he had a carnation problem. He thought he had been there before.
- 1:56:03Did. Things. I enjoyed his dull poetry. He did know what was going on. Because he wanna turn around and go kick the Russians ass,
- 1:56:11and then a white sundown wouldn't let him do it because he knew what was really going on.
- 1:56:15And at the end of the day, he was our Johnny Rebel in that particular war, I think. And see, they knocked him off. They knocked him off when he had that car wrecked. They went in there and shot him up with something and put him out of the gate. They were absolutely deathly scared of Patton coming back and starting to run for office. I promise you that. Do you know? And and Brent went into this. Speaking of Brent, we'll have Brent tomorrow.
- 1:56:37Unknown: Brent went into this one day that I did not know. Patton was from a pretty wealthy family, Patrick.
- 1:56:43And in the first World War, when they didn't have the budget for his tanks in his in his division,
- 1:56:50He went out and out of his family fortune.
- 1:56:54Totally got that whole division running out of his own pocket.
- 1:56:58Interesting guy, George. Yeah.
- 1:57:00Thanks a lot, guys. Yeah, you wear football helmets. Yeah, they sure did.
- 1:57:05Good discussion today. We'll be back tomorrow with Brent. We covered some good stuff and I want to thank everybody that listened and everybody especially
- 1:57:12that contributed
- 1:57:13and we'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Have a good day and let's hope the rest of it turns out alright. Thanks, guys.
- 1:57:20Unknown: Thank you. Bye.
- 1:57:23Unknown: Enjoy it, everybody. Good day. Ciao. Ciao.
- 1:58:23Unknown: Blasting the Voice of Freedom Worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
- 1:58:29Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the