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New Details Emerge On Buckeyes' Quarterback Battle · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, April thirtieth, I'm
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Speaker 1: dot Com joined by Tony Griderman here inside the Woody
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Speaker 1: Hayes Athletic Center. Just got a chance to talk to
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day a sort of surprise bonus press conference bonus
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Speaker 1: coverage as they call it around here.
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Speaker 2: So he got a chance to talk to him, and a.
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Speaker 1: Lot of stuff to talk to about, talking about NFL
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Speaker 1: draft transfer portal additions.
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Speaker 2: And we'll get to both of those things.
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Speaker 1: But the first thing that I thought, ooh, all right,
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Speaker 1: we got a little bit real interesting detail here was
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Speaker 1: about the quarterback battle. And it started with Ryan, do
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Speaker 1: you know who your quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Is going to be? He said no. So I was like,
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Speaker 2: all right, well that was the answer you to expect.
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Speaker 1: However, then he went on to provide a little bit
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Speaker 1: of detail about how that quarterback battle had actually sort
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Speaker 1: of shaken out over the.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said before the spring game. Heading into the
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Speaker 3: spring game, he thought maybe Lincoln Keynolts was a little
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Speaker 3: bit of a head, but then Juliet saying had the
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Speaker 3: better spring game, and then he's like, so there you go.
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Speaker 3: And it's like, this is very similar to the Devin
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Speaker 3: Brown Cotton Cord thing, where we'd hear one week it's Devin,
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Speaker 3: one week, it's common coord. Towards the end it was
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Speaker 3: Devin Brown, and Common Cord came in and swept through
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Speaker 3: and won that one. And so it was just interesting
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Speaker 3: to hear him admit that. Yeah, I would say one
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Speaker 3: guy was ahead, but then then the other guy came
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Speaker 3: in and had a good game or a good practice,
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Speaker 3: and so there's no there's no reason or there's no
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Speaker 3: necessarily leader that he wanted to give at this point,
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Speaker 3: he said.
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Speaker 4: Clearly the job is still wide open. Yeah, and I
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Speaker 4: also like the I think a Stephen meansrom believe.
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Speaker 3: Ind dot Com asked do you need to know somebody
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Speaker 3: sooner because of the Texas game?
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Speaker 4: He said no, because it's still a.
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Speaker 3: Season defining, you know, quest it's it's a long season,
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Speaker 3: so it's more than just one game. They want to
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Speaker 3: make sure they make the right guy, the right pick now,
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Speaker 3: just the first pick.
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Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting that you heard keenholes
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Speaker 1: early and then saying in the spring game, because that
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Speaker 1: kind of broadly aligned with what we were seeing when
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Speaker 1: we were in practice.
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Speaker 3: It's good to have that confirmed, right, Yeah, yeah, we
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Speaker 3: do know what we're seeing well, but we're.
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Speaker 1: All also in for five of fifteen practices, so what's
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Speaker 1: happening in the other ten. You can talk to people,
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Speaker 1: but you you know, your mileage may vary on the
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Speaker 1: answers that you get.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just good feedback and they're like, okay,
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Speaker 3: so what we were seeing was basically realistic, you know,
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Speaker 3: like this is not We weren't just there for outlier days.
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Speaker 3: What we saw was like, Lincoln looks pretty good, yeap,
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Speaker 3: And clearly that's what Ryan Day had asserted and it
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Speaker 3: said and then again, you got to do it every day.
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Speaker 3: And that's why this is going to be a competition
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Speaker 3: and a talking point all through.
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Speaker 4: You know, if we're no.
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Speaker 3: Longer talking about the quarterback battle. After the Texas game,
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Speaker 3: hallelujah for Buckeye fans.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, unquestionably, that is the best possible case scenario
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Speaker 1: because think about the years when the quarter battle has
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Speaker 1: dragged on into the season that has generally not been
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Speaker 1: a good thing. I mean, twenty twenty three, it sort
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Speaker 1: of dragged on a little bit into this season. You
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Speaker 1: go back to twenty fifteen, it dragged on into the
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Speaker 1: season that sort of served as a distraction. Two thousand
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Speaker 1: and four there was a Texas game involved that year
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Speaker 1: in the Horseshoe at the lost time Texas game to
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Speaker 1: the Horseshoe. That was a little bit of a quarterback
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Speaker 1: uncertainty thing. And right now, you know, he didn't say this,
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Speaker 1: but I think, based on the way he's talking about things,
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Speaker 1: this is very clearly not a we have two guys
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Speaker 1: who are definitely one hundred percent national championship ready right now.
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Speaker 2: It is you got two.
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Speaker 1: Guys who are sort of working towards where they need
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Speaker 1: to be, but aren't there yet.
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Speaker 2: In probably multiple areas.
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Speaker 3: He explained it in a really good way too, because
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Speaker 3: he's talking about how football is the only sport where
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Speaker 3: you can't play games all your long, like you can't
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Speaker 3: play games with practice and basketball. You can play games,
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Speaker 3: you know, lacrosse, you can play games, a base play,
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Speaker 3: you can play games, softball, whatever, but you can't do that. Football.
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Speaker 3: You can't just go eleven on eleven and play. You
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Speaker 3: can only do what you can.
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Speaker 4: Do like we've done.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: Virtual reality doesn't really you know, doesn't simulate anything, but
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Speaker 3: it's just an interesting thing for not just a quarterback,
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Speaker 3: basically any football player, but especially a quarterback.
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Speaker 4: Where you only do the thing that you do so
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Speaker 4: many times.
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Speaker 3: Whereas a basketball player like au you're gonna play like
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Speaker 3: four games a day, like basketball players are gonna play.
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Speaker 3: The point guard is are gonna play anywhere two thousand
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Speaker 3: games in their lifetimes, and a college you know, a
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Speaker 3: quarterback is gonna play I don't know, maybe maybe one
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Speaker 3: hundred or whatever, like less than that if if you know,
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Speaker 3: you only if you only play like three years in
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Speaker 3: the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hockey, for example, my son plays hockey. He'll play
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Speaker 1: forty fifty games and you know he's in ten U
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Speaker 1: twelve view. I mean, this is not and this is
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Speaker 1: not like triple A super mega high level.
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Speaker 2: Those kids are playing seventy games, eighty games.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, to be a quarterback and only have this limited,
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Speaker 1: limited window. You wonder he said that, and then I thought,
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Speaker 1: I wonder if that means the Spring game counts a
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Speaker 1: little bit extra because it's a little bit closer to
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Speaker 1: what the final product looks like. He talked about study
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Speaker 1: he did in terms of guys. This was something he
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Speaker 1: did a while back, and I really appreciated the fact
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Speaker 1: that all of his references in there were too like
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Speaker 1: movies and guys from our areas.
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Speaker 2: But Reggie Jackson and.
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Speaker 4: More people need to do that.
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Speaker 1: The movie The Natural, it's like, good, I don't need anything,
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Speaker 1: you know, Airbud four. No, that's not what we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: We're referencing early eighties. This is this is when time stopped.
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Speaker 1: He talked about the fact that it's not you look
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Speaker 1: at when you look at performances in clutch moments, big moments,
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Speaker 1: it's generally not that guys are playing so much better
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Speaker 1: in that moment. It's just that they're not shrinking in
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Speaker 1: that moment. So that's something I mean, he did a
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Speaker 1: study on that. That's what he found very clearly. This
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Speaker 1: is what he believes.
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Speaker 4: So you would think that.
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Speaker 1: You would probably put a little bit of extra emphasis
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Speaker 1: on those big moments. But you know how much you
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Speaker 1: put your finger on the scale for that, we don't know.
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Speaker 3: Well, And like you said, it's just falling back to
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Speaker 3: the level of your training, which is not the first
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Speaker 3: time we've heard that. We've heard that over the years
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Speaker 3: here and and he said it as long. Basically, if
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Speaker 3: you just play your average game in the big games,
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Speaker 3: you're going to be playing better than others because other
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Speaker 3: players will wild. Like, so basically, just prepare for it,
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Speaker 3: and as long as you're confident and you know what
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Speaker 3: you're doing.
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Speaker 4: Then there's less pressure.
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Speaker 3: But it is interesting he's like, you know, you know
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Speaker 3: the natural like Ry Hobbs, that's just a movie. Like,
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Speaker 3: so that's not actually how it went for him. And
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Speaker 3: I assume if I go in Wikipedia wiki Roy Hobbs
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Speaker 3: right now, he's probably like he had to work a lot,
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Speaker 3: Like he had to do a.
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Speaker 4: Lot of things.
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Speaker 2: There's a book, there's a book. It wasn't the movie
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Speaker 2: was based on the book, but not exactly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like you just you don't really May says,
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Speaker 3: you don't just get out of bed and run, like
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Speaker 3: it is interesting that because we always talk about gamers
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Speaker 3: this and gamers that, He's like, well, yeah, I don't
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Speaker 3: buy it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not exactly. So all right, so that's that. That
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Speaker 2: was the update on the quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: Now let's move on to the transfer portal, which is
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Speaker 1: another thing that folks I know have a lot of
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Speaker 1: interest in. Let's talk first about the big name that
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Speaker 1: came in. That's defensive end bo Atkinson. This is one
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Speaker 1: of these great press conference moments where he gets at
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Speaker 1: Bryan day first question at the press conference, he gets
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Speaker 1: asked about bouw Akinson and he looks back to the
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Speaker 1: compliance guy in the back, like, we got cleared to
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Speaker 1: talk about him, right, I can do this where where
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Speaker 1: we've filed the correct paperwork and the answer came back yes.
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Speaker 1: So we did get to hear Ryan Day's thoughts on
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Speaker 1: new to Ohio State defensive end bo Atkinson.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Does it shock you that he's talking about, how, you know,
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Speaker 3: a great kid, great great meeting the parents and the
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Speaker 3: family and all of that, and everybody's like happy to
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Speaker 3: be here. And what he said about bo Atkinson is
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Speaker 3: he just wants to play at the highest level, want
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Speaker 3: to play at the highest level of college football. And
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Speaker 3: so now he's here at Ohio State getting ready to
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Speaker 3: do that, and it's always about fit and fit first talent,
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Speaker 3: Like basically clearly you've got to have the talent to
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Speaker 3: like get into the thought process. But if you are
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Speaker 3: not the right fit, you know, you know that for
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Speaker 3: the culture or whatever, it's probably not gonna happen for you.
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Speaker 4: And it sounds like everybody is thrilled with this, including
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Speaker 4: is new teammates.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, including his new team, as he also said there
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Speaker 1: was a connection right away because bo Watkinson's mom is
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Speaker 1: from New Hampshire, as is Ryan Day. There are not
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Speaker 1: a lot of New Hampshire rights in college football. You know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of their names, Dan Mullen and Chip Kelly
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Speaker 1: and Ryan Day, but not a lot of them.
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Speaker 2: He said.
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Speaker 1: Both of his parents went to Yukon apparently, so Jim
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Speaker 1: Mora taking the l there. That's what the del in
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Speaker 1: Jim el Mora stands for you, all right. So that's
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Speaker 1: bo Atkinson. Now on to the other half of the
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Speaker 1: transfer portal, which is, boy, this is really complicated. First,
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Speaker 1: the good news, no one, no scholarship players left. They
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Speaker 1: did have four walk on guys leave. He provided a
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Speaker 1: little bit of context around that, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: this went back to a question that you asked that
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Speaker 1: we we've talked about in a couple of shows, percently
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Speaker 1: involving the house settlement and what the judge is going
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Speaker 1: to decide and what that all means for college football program.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, some like real life tangible things that the real
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Speaker 3: life effect of that of you know, we talked about
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Speaker 3: the house settlement and a lot of people are probably like.
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Speaker 4: Enough with this.
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Speaker 1: This is this is a very each your vegetables thing.
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Speaker 1: I know you don't want to hear it, but this
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Speaker 1: matters and this is going to be consequential.
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Speaker 2: So you got to kind of impatient.
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Speaker 3: And here's how it impacted Ohio State this year is
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Speaker 3: that the agreement that Verrid Gott was going to be
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Speaker 3: one hundred five scholarships. So when Ryan Day is talking
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Speaker 3: to all of their players, and you got to be
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Speaker 3: extremely honest with them saying, because oh I stay had
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Speaker 3: one hundred and five players on a springcaster, they're bringing
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Speaker 3: in five more freshmen and what three more transfers or
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Speaker 3: two or three more transfers and they're still looking. But
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Speaker 3: basically I had to tell people, I don't know that
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Speaker 3: I'm going to have a spot for you in the fall.
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Speaker 3: And so know that feel free to stay for now,
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Speaker 3: or you know, but I don't know. I can't promise
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Speaker 3: you a spot here. And so those are the conversations
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Speaker 3: they had with basically the guys that needed to have
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Speaker 3: that conversation. And so they lost four walk Ons to
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Speaker 3: the portal. And now the thing is like the judge
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Speaker 3: in the house case is like, no, the one o
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Speaker 3: five is not going to work because you are harming
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Speaker 3: players who did nothing wrong. Four players, those four walk
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Speaker 3: Ons would be considered harmed because they weren't geared at
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Speaker 3: a spot that they have had for a while now.
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Speaker 3: So this is just a this is a real life
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Speaker 3: example of what coaches are having to go through right
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Speaker 3: now trying to maneuver through this thing. And then, as
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Speaker 3: I asked Ryan Day, so you know you're probably gonna
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Speaker 3: have they're gonna have more than one oh five. It's
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Speaker 3: like they'll they'll deal with it as it happens. But
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Speaker 3: they liked to be back to one twenty one, twenty one,
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Speaker 3: he said, with ninety scholarships, and so he's like, we'll see,
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Speaker 3: basically like it's things are maneuvering and you try to
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Speaker 3: keep up. And that has been every year he's been
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Speaker 3: at Ohio State, especially as a head coach, Like the
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Speaker 3: only normal year he had is maybe twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 4: Like there's always something going on with that guy.
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Speaker 2: Speaking in the.
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Speaker 1: Sport speaking of early eighties movies, he said one twenty one,
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Speaker 1: twenty one, and I thought, Michael Keaton, mister mom, you know,
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Speaker 1: wiring up, wiring up the dryer.
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Speaker 4: That's very early.
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Speaker 2: That it's very earliest. Yes, yes, well we have our
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Speaker 2: we have our window of time.
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Speaker 1: The only other thing that I had that really kind
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Speaker 1: of a consequential thing is the offensive line. Where things
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Speaker 1: stand on the offensive line, because that was there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of spots being replaced there and there's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a question in terms of how those different
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Speaker 1: pieces are gonna fit together. What did he have to
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Speaker 1: say about where things stand? I think he was specifically
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Speaker 1: asked about the right tackle position, but you know, the
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Speaker 1: whole the whole defensive offensive line.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, everything's going well there, you know, everybody's progressing.
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Speaker 3: I thought the most interesting thing out of that as
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Speaker 3: he was asked about right tackle and he's like, well,
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Speaker 3: that's still that's still to be decided. I'm not gonna
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Speaker 3: name any starters right now. Austin Seerveld is gonna be
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Speaker 3: starting on the offensive line. So it's like, so take
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Speaker 3: that for what it's worth, right, Yeah, Like, I you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know if because Austin Seravel do you guys
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Speaker 3: know when left tackle, left guard, right tackle, right guard,
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Speaker 3: worked almost everywhere and did very well, Like they liked
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Speaker 3: everything he did. And it's like, I don't know who's
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Speaker 3: gonna be starting at right tackle, but I know Austin
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Speaker 3: Seerveld is going to be in this line up somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean they always approach this as a
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Speaker 1: best five and so if you feel like this guy
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Speaker 1: is deaf only one of our top three, there's not
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Speaker 1: a question and he's going to be among that best five.
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Speaker 2: And with the positional versatility that.
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Speaker 1: He has, you can shuffle the other pieces around as
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Speaker 1: to make fit.
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Speaker 3: To feel that good about a rench or sophomore, it's
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Speaker 3: got to be a great feeling for a coach well.
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Speaker 1: And he is someone who they only had three iron
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Speaker 1: Buckeyes this spring, and Austin Sierveeld was one of them.
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Speaker 1: So that's someone who is obviously very well respected by
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff, very well respected by the team, but
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Speaker 1: also who's putting in the work and also who has
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Speaker 1: the track record based on last year of Hey, this
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Speaker 1: guy is a guy who can do it in these
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Speaker 1: big moments in the in the kind of college football
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Speaker 1: playoff kind of pressure, pressure moments. So that was that
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Speaker 1: was an interesting thing. Anything else that you thought we
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Speaker 1: need to cover before we wrap this up.
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Speaker 3: No, I think we touched basically, you know, everybody he
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Speaker 3: likes somebody I think it was Pat Murphy asked him
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Speaker 3: about you mentioned the weapons on offense, like the different
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Speaker 3: ways that you can use them. He's like, well, you
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Speaker 3: consider we've got the tight ends, which is the deepest
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Speaker 3: and the best he's ever had at Ohio State, different
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Speaker 3: types of receivers, which is interesting. We get some different
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Speaker 3: kind of as you know, like Brandon Innis and that,
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Speaker 3: and then the depth at running back is going to
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Speaker 3: be greater than anything they've had. So there are just
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Speaker 3: some different things that they can do offensively. That is,
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Speaker 3: you know, that's that's some of the things they do
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Speaker 3: in the summer is to devise all of these things
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Speaker 3: defensively as well, with Matt Patricia trying to figure out
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Speaker 3: how to use all of these eighteen defensive linemen that
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Speaker 3: Ryan Day talked about mostly just you know, those five
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Speaker 3: defensive ends that they've got now and whatever they can
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Speaker 3: find on the interior. The last thing though, Tom, when
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Speaker 3: you talked about how the good the offensive line is looking,
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Speaker 3: and He's like, but I still wonder you're talking about
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Speaker 3: the interior, Like what they would look like if Tyler
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Speaker 3: Williams and ty Hamilton were working against them? And that
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Speaker 3: is going to be a question that stands around, is
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Speaker 3: there until the Texas game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a question that will get answered in
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Speaker 1: what was at one hundred and twenty two days.
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Speaker 2: I believe at the start of the show. Not my
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Speaker 2: gimmick yet, it is Bryan Day's gimmick.
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Speaker 1: That Texas game seems to come up every time we
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Speaker 1: talked to Ryan Day. So something that is on the
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Speaker 1: forefront of the minds of the folks inside the what
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Speaker 1: he Hayes Athletic Center. There's a lot on the forefront
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Speaker 1: of the minds of us at bucke huddle dot com
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Speaker 1: right now because we got this to talk about. We've
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Speaker 1: got a whole lot of exciting positional battles at quarterback
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Speaker 1: race to talk about. It is also Southern swinging Mark
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Speaker 1: Gifler and Kevin noon on the road right now, Chris
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Speaker 1: crossing the South, talk to all sorts of top prospects
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Speaker 1: all across the nation, lots of lots of really elite
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Speaker 1: players who are all if they're talking to them, they
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Speaker 1: are folks who are interested in Ohio State, and you're
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Speaker 1: gonna get some direct answers about.
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Speaker 2: Ohio State from all of them.
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Speaker 1: So that is going to be a well, They're gonna
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Speaker 1: have a lot of coverage from that coming up in
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Speaker 1: the next few weeks, and we'll have plenty.
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Speaker 2: More coming for you at bucke huddle dot com.
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Speaker 1: all for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.