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Best Of · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond its curling crew.
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  S1: Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome what seems
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  S1: impossible and live. As you never imagined delivering the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
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  S2: and you're forfeiting your soul, there's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way. Never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and Crew.
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  S5: What a day. The last two days actually. And we
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  S5: just want to say a heartfelt thank you. Right, Ali?
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  S2: Truly, the last couple days we partnered up with heart
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  S2: for Lebanon for a two day kind of blitz, supporting
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  S2: families in Lebanon who have been displaced by war. And
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  S2: your response over those two days? Absolutely incredible, life changing, transformative.
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  S2: The fact that we were able to have folks from heart,
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  S2: from Lebanon in studio, getting real time updates to the
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  S2: ministry happening as we are on air, that those dollars
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  S2: are already being leveraged.
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  S5: It's it's just one of the most awe inspiring couple
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  S5: of days we've had, and we've had a lot of them,
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  S5: but those were those rank among the top.
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  S3: My goodness, what an encouragement to see so many boom
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  S3: cruisers jumping in and doing something for people that will
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  S3: never meet on this side of glory, but it's gonna
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  S3: make an impact.
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  S5: Yeah. Uh, one quick banner ad I want to give
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  S5: you here. Boom crew. Uh, this is so important. We've
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  S5: got a crisis state said, the more I think about
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  S5: this and the more I hear people talking about it
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  S5: and it's wild. I don't know if I just wrote
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  S5: about this, therefore I'm seeing a pink Cadillac everywhere I go.
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  S5: You know, if you buy a pink Cadillac, everybody's got
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  S5: a pink Cadillac. I don't know, I don't know what's
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  S5: going on, but I know this. We got a crisis.
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  S5: We got a church loaded with people on weekend services,
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  S5: good Bible preaching, churches who are lost. Uh, JD Greer
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  S5: gave a message here recently, and he said, hey, man,
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  S5: we've got so many thousands of you that come to
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  S5: this church and do not know Jesus personally. He said,
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  S5: I was in that funk and he shared a story.
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  S5: My wife came to me on a Sunday morning. She goes,
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  S5: you can't believe it. JD was just hammering what you've
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  S5: been tackling in this book. Well, the book is now
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  S5: a conference. It's a tug conference. The unstoppable gospel. I
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  S5: think we got 150 and change seats live in Rolling Meadows, Illinois,
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  S5: but there's unlimited seating around the globe. We've got small
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  S5: groups signing up. Ali.
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  S2: Yeah, to be able to go through this together. So
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  S2: this is going to be a Saturday. Just so just
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  S2: over a week away, a Saturday morning for a couple
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  S2: of hours. The live stream option. Great. If you are
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  S1: She was trying to earn her way to God, but
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  S1: God showed her she didn't have to. Alli is in
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  S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S5: And if that's not good enough, we are up in
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  S2: Last couple days to make sure you're entered in to
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  S1: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is
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  S1: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S5: Every time you say that somebody. I think about the
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  S5: kindness of God that led us to repentance. That's why
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  S5: we can't be angry evangelicals. There is no worse a
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  S5: look on this planet than being an angry Christian man. Oh,
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  S5: when you guys were newly born again, did you find
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  S5: contagious followers around you? What was it like?
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  S3: That's a good question. I yeah, I think so because
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  S3: I think one of my biggest benefits here. Yeah. Is
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  S3: the fact that I I've been discipled by you, Carl, specifically.
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  S3: I mean, you walked with me through the first couple
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  S3: of months of, you know, because I had a lot
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  S3: of mess going on in my life when I came
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  S3: to Christ that I was trying to clean up.
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  S5: I even forget those days. Yeah. Isn't that weird?
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  S3: It's it's been.
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  S5: God has really altered you.
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  S3: Uh, Monday. Monday was seven years on the day from
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  S3: this upcoming Monday, seven years on the day from when
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  S3: all the walls crashed around my life.
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  S5: And and Jonathan became born again.
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  S3: Yeah. And so. Well, born again happened about two weeks after.
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  S5: Two weeks after. Yeah. Okay. So it crashed. Oh. That's right.
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  S5: You were going through that.
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  S3: I was going through it. And then. And then it
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  S3: really was like, okay, that's, uh, you know, God, I
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  S3: agree with you. I'm gonna give my life to you
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  S3: and I'm gonna follow you.
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  S5: And we got to do a time out here because
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  S5: there's some people listening and they're trying to do the
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  S5: math and they're going, hold it here. Jonathan's been on
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  S5: this radio. He's been on this radio show. How long?
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  S5: And he went to Moody Bible Institute. So back up quickly.
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  S5: Give the quick story because this is some people might say, oh,
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  S5: that's a crazy story. I say, this is awesome.
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  S3: Yeah, yeah, it's a good thing. And, and at first
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  S3: there was some shame about it, but there doesn't have
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  S3: to be. It's my story. It's what God did in me.
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  S3: I was a pastor's kid, grew up in church, went
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  S3: to church twice a week for 18 years. And, you know,
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  S3: I was on ministry trips and went to summer camps for,
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  S3: for Christian things and stuff like that. I went to
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  S3: Moody Bible Institute and graduated 40 hours of Bible classes.
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  S3: I got good grades in my in my Bible classes.
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  S3: And then I got a job here almost ten years ago,
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  S3: February 6th of 2017.
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  S5: Good grief, that was ten years ago.
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  S3: Yeah, ten years ago this coming February. And, uh, and then,
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  S3: you know, Carl started preaching the message of Matthew seven,
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  S3: the fact that on the Day of Judgment, there will
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  S3: be a bunch of people, a bunch. Jesus says many
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  S3: who come to him on that day and he'll say,
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  S3: I never knew you. And they say, what are you
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  S3: talking about? We we did all these things. We performed
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  S3: miracles and did mighty works in your name. And he says, no,
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  S3: I never knew you. I didn't have a relationship with you.
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  S3: And that hit me. And God spoke to me that
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  S3: I was one of those people, and I'd have that
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  S3: conversation with him if I didn't do anything about it.
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  S5: But that was a tormenting period of time.
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  S3: Oh, yeah, 100%, because I didn't want to, you know,
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  S3: come to that reality. So I fought it for about
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  S3: two years. Uh, you know, I didn't want anything to
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  S3: do with that message. And so, so I was like, no,
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  S3: that's not true about me. That's, that's a lie. I'm
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  S3: not doing anything with that. And, and so I fought it.
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  S3: But then God started putting all the sin in my
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  S3: life in front of me, and I couldn't fight stuff anymore.
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  S3: And I lost £30 just based off of anxiety alone.
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  S5: And that's £30 that you couldn't afford much to lose.
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  S3: Yeah. No. Absolutely not. And and so in August 10th
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  S3: of 2019, God let the walls come down and. And
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  S3: I crashed in a good way. I remember for a
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  S3: good purpose. Yeah, it was hard. And then shortly after that,
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  S3: I was reading a Billy Graham devotional. Uh, and he
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  S3: was talking about watching, watching Jesus get on the flight.
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  S3: And you can believe that he's on it, but you
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  S3: got to get on the plane with him if you
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  S3: really want to have a relationship with him. And so
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  S3: I said, okay, I knew all the things I knew
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  S3: about sin. I knew about Jesus existence. I wouldn't deny
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  S3: any of that stuff. But I wasn't on the journey
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  S3: with him. And, and so I said, Lord, I, I
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  S3: believe that you're my Savior. And I said, but now
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  S3: I'm making you my Lord and I'm surrendering my life
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  S3: to you.
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  S5: Was there a clear distinction in your mind at one
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  S5: point that's like, yep, I know I have a belief
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  S5: in Jesus, almost demonic in nature. They're monotheistic. They believe
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  S5: in their future judgment. So they believe a lot of
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  S5: true stuff about Jesus. Yeah. But they don't they haven't surrendered.
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  S5: Made him the ultimate authority of their life 100%. Do
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  S5: you remember feeling like, I know I'm living in this tension,
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  S5: but I got to go here anyway?
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  S3: Yeah, no, I, I mean, yes, 100%. I was a
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  S3: junior in high school at one of those camps I
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  S3: was telling you about. And, uh, I was talking with
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  S3: a bunch of my friends in youth group and there
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  S3: was no youth pastor around to hear me. So that
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  S3: was probably the first problem, uh, is that I felt
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  S3: a little too free to, to say this, but it
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  S3: was what was going on in my heart. As I said,
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  S3: you know, I believe that God exists. And I said,
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  S3: but I kind of want to do what I want
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  S3: to do right now. And, uh, you know, later in
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  S3: my life, basically, I didn't say this. This is kind
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  S3: of the attitude of my heart was when it stops
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  S3: being fun and when I know that time, my time
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  S3: on earth is almost done for me, then I'll get
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  S3: right with him and it's fine. Uh, and that's kind
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  S3: of where I was at.
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  S5: Yeah, it's really interesting. This actually relates. So let me
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  S5: just say this in revelation six, looking at the the
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  S5: seals that are going to be broken open and the
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  S5: horsemen that come at us. And the third horseman is, uh. Pestilence.
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  S5: And it's going to come on the world quickly. In fact,
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  S5: the quarter of the world. It depends on your eschatology,
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  S5: but I happen to believe that we're going to ride
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  S5: through that. But it's it's here's what's interesting. There's such
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  S5: a suddenness of what's going to happen. And there is
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  S5: in life in general. I mean, we don't know how
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  S5: much time we have. And that's, by the way, I'm
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  S5: not doing that to scare you. When I was in
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  S5: youth group growing up, people came with fire just going,
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  S5: you don't know if you got tomorrow, you know, I mean,
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  S5: here's the reality. Let me say it calmly. We don't
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  S5: know what we have. Yeah, we just flat don't know.
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  S3: Yeah. I was I was foolish to think that I,
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  S3: I am still going to make it to the end
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  S3: of my life. We have plans and we, we come
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  S3: up with things and I have a vision. But at
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  S3: the end of the day, I don't know. At the
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  S3: end of the day, this could be my last day
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  S3: and I don't know it yet. And, and so God
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  S3: was gracious to me to give me two years to
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  S3: to get there. Uh, I really do see that as
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  S3: God's grace and patience for me. But not everyone's given
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  S3: that much amount of time.
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  S5: And the danger right now is that you would have
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  S5: you look back to what is commonly called Decisionism. It
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  S5: was kind of birthed 250 years ago. And you look
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  S5: at a decision, and it's not about a decision. There
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  S5: are going to be characteristics of your life that are
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  S5: consistent with the disciple of Christ. Certainly, perfection is not
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  S5: one of them. But I want to ask you something.
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  S5: Have you seen a relationship with Jesus? More like. I
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  S5: hate to use the term fire insurance because I heard
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  S5: that growing up as well all the time, but kind
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  S5: of the buffer between you and the gods of your world.
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  S3: Mhm.
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  S5: That's really what it is. It's kind of that buffer. Yeah.
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  S5: So I can still walk this broad path. I go
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  S5: to church. I believe in Jesus, but really, truth be told,
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  S5: you got substitute God's under your arm.
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  S3: Yeah, I really like what Abdu Murray says, how he
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  S3: phrases it. He calls them vampire Christians only wanting Jesus
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  S3: for his blood.
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  S5: And that's one of the most powerful statements ever.
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  S3: I it is, it is. It stuck with me ever
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  S3: since he said it.
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  S5: Okay. Okay. So here's the deal. I need you to
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  S5: hear my heart right now. Is it possible that elders,
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  S5: worship leaders, pastors, Sunday school teachers that among those people,
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  S5: even as as if there's some hierarchy that there's going
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  S5: to be deceived people who think they have something with Jesus,
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  S5: but they don't. The answer is yes, and I've met them.
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  S5: I guess if it's a PK, I was a principal's kid.
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  S5: I was one of them. You were a PK, John.
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  S5: You were a preacher's kid and you were one of them. Yeah.
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  S5: So here's the deal. And I'm not. There's no music
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  S5: playing in the background. Nothing like that. We're just saying,
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  S5: would you please surrender your life to Jesus today? And
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  S5: this isn't about walking an aisle. This is about following Jesus.
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  S5: A lot of people have walked down an aisle and
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  S5: never followed Jesus. That's what discipleship is. You might say, well,
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  S5: how does this really happen? There's there's one distinct word
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  S5: that Jesus sent his disciples out with. It was a
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  S5: gospel of repentance, which means the turning of mind turning
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  S5: of your concept, your allegiance, everything. Because only with repentance,
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  S5: recognizing I'm a sinner who needs a Savior. And only
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  S5: with repentance do we say, I confess with my mouth,
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  S5: Jesus is Lord. And you know why Jesus. Paul says that. It's.
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  S5: It's simply this. If you can say to anyone on
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  S5: the street, when push came to shove, Jesus is the
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  S5: highest authority in my life and not flinch. That's probably
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  S5: one of the greater tests that you're really born again,
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  S5: confessing with your mouth. Yes, Jesus is my highest authority.
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  S5: I had a guy measuring windows in my home here
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  S5: yesterday at our home, and I told him my story
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  S5: and he kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I go, no,
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  S5: listen to me. This isn't some magic potion. Jesus radically
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  S5: saved me and I follow him now, and he's my leader. Now,
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  S5: I don't know if he got it and he might
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  S5: be listening right now because he told me he would be.
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  S5: But I'll tell you this. You've got to be born again.
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  S5: This is not about mental belief and assent. You got
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  S5: to be born again. And today you are surrendering all
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  S5: that you are to Jesus, every bit of you to Jesus.
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  S5: You have come to the point where you recognize I'm
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  S5: a sinner. I need a savior. You're moving from this
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  S5: grain of wheat that's alone and isolated and independent, and
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  S5: you're breaking. And here's what's happening. You're breaking. God's going
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  S5: to open you up, and you're going to multiply in
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  S5: fruit in your life. That's the promise. And if today
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  S5: you're saying, you know what, guys? I'm a sinner. I
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  S5: need a savior. I've done religion, but I have not
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  S5: done relationship with Jesus. He's not been the leader of
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  S5: my life. Welcome to the family. The cry of the
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  S5: soul that says I'm a sinner. I need a Savior.
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  S5: I'm repentant. I'm turning around. That soul is fit for
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  S5: the kingdom of heaven. And we want to help you
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  S5: in these first steps. And this is your there's going
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  S5: to be a hunger for you to grow. And we
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  S5: guys and and how sweet because the blues are bluer.
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  S5: Greens are greener today. I'm telling you, because of what
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  S5: the spirit has done to break through this heart of
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  S5: stone and turn it into a heart of flesh. Text
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  S5: You're born again. Coming up, Heather Holloman. She's got a
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  S5: real big interest in helping us radiate to other people
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  S5: around us and have impact in our world. How do
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  S5: we do that? Straight ahead.
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  S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S5: If we want to talk about living a life that
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  S5: invites others to Jesus, maybe we ought to get someone
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  S5: in here who's written a book with that title. How
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  S5: about that? Heather Holloman is with us right now. Heather,
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  S5: you wrote a book with that title in it, for
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  S5: crying out loud. How do we do it, sister?
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  S6: That's right. I just have to say, it's just believing
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  S6: what God says in His Word about us. That where
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  S6: Jesus says in John 2021, As the father has sent me,
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  S6: so I send you, and living a sent Life has
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  S6: changed everything about how I go through my day. And
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  S6: I can tell by listening to you, Carl, you already
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  S6: live a scent life.
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  S5: Well, you know, it's interesting, Heather, because we talk a
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  S5: lot around here. There's a constant battle. Thomas Aquinas codified it.
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  S5: The flesh, the devil, and the world. Three systems that
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  S5: were up against. Right. So there's constant drags getting us
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  S5: out of this spirit, walking life into kind of flesh.
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  S5: And so I've done stupid people tricks plenty of times
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  S5: in my life, but by and large, I'm finding more
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  S5: and more of consistency with the Lord. And here's the
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  S5: interesting thing that's helped me. Heather, and I want you
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  S5: to speak to this. For years, I thought I needed
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  S5: to let my light shine. And then I was reminded
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  S5: about what my dad said to me before I was
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  S5: even born again. And he used to know this woman
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  S5: in the school system in Alaska that we worked with.
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  S5: And she was a radical follower of Jesus. And he
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  S5: bragged about her all the time. But she said would
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  S5: say to my dad, Joe. They're both Christ followers. We
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  S5: don't need to make our light shine. We let it shine.
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  S5: So this whole thing of living a life that invites
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  S5: others to Jesus. It's really what's cool is the pressure's off.
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  S5: It's an overflow of something that's bigger than us. Right, Heather?
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  S6: That's right. My husband, who co-wrote the book with me,
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  S6: says it like this when you live a life, you
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  S6: stop doing things for Jesus and you start doing things
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  S6: with Jesus. This is like the inevitable happening when you're
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  S6: close with Jesus. When you experience friendship with Jesus, he's
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  S6: gonna send you. I mean, the first thing he says
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  S6: when he calls the disciples is, follow me, and I
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  S6: will send you out to fish for people. And it's
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  S6: just changed our life. It's changed how I wake up
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  S6: in the morning, I wake up and I'm like, Lord,
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  S6: we talk about like the three core principles. I know
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  S6: you're at work to draw people to yourself. I know
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  S6: you use people to lead others to you. You're continually
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  S6: inviting us into that work. You can send me today. Wow.
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  S6: And sometimes I say, send me to be the answer
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  S6: to someone's prayer. Can you imagine if we all said
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  S6: that like, okay, send me to be the answer to
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  S6: someone's prayer today? It just brings tears to my eyes
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  S6: to wake up. I take my eyes off myself. I
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  S6: go out into the day. It's really changed everything about
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  S6: my marriage, my family, how I live in my neighborhood.
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  S5: You mean this? Seriously?
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  S6: It's been. It's it's changed everything. You know people who
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  S6: know me. I'm a professor at Penn State. I live
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  S6: here in Pennsylvania, but pretty much all day long, I'm
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  S6: looking for opportunities. God, where are you? At work. Send me.
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  S6: Send me to bless people. Send me to talk about you.
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  S6: And I think people are a lot more willing to
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  S6: hear about Jesus than we think they are. One of
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  S6: the things I teach is just go out and form
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  S6: warm connections with people. Share your life. When you do that,
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  S6: the gospel never feels like a sales pitch or an
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  S6: awkward pivot in the conversation. You're just sharing your life
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  S6: and loving people and being available for God to use you.
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  S6: And if you look at the New Testament, you're going
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  S6: to be overwhelmed with even the job descriptions. You're an ambassador.
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  S6: You're a royal priest. It's amazing to think about all
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  S6: God is saying about you and your scent life.
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  S5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, what's really cool is Paul
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  S5: second Corinthians five. Cheers for that whole ambassadorship. We're ambassadors
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  S5: for Christ. God's making an appeal through us. There is
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  S5: something that I've been kind of thinking on heavily as
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  S5: of late, and it's that there's God fearing people who
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  S5: need a fair shot at the gospel, and they don't
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  S5: have it yet. I'm thinking Lydia Cornelius, thief on the cross.
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  S5: I'm thinking if you go back Old Testament, you can
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  S5: find them. Josiah. My favorite king they just needed. When
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  S5: Josiah got a fair shot at the truth, they found
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  S5: the lost Torah. All of a sudden, he tore his robes.
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  S5: What's beautiful about what you're saying is we. If we
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  S5: live sin, living a life that invites others to Jesus,
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  S5: we got our radar up and God will providentially connect
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  S5: us with these God fearing people that are hungry. And
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  S5: that's what you're saying, right, Heather?
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  S6: Exactly. And think of acts 14. He never leaves himself
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  S6: without a witness. You know, one of my favorite prayers
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  S6: is God, send someone. I have a daughter in Colorado
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  S6: right now. When I was flying home, I say, God,
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  S6: your people are everywhere. Send someone to her to care
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  S6: for her, to love her. You know, everyone listening. If
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  S6: they came to Christ, it's because of some one else.
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  S6: And you can think about that person. It might have
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  S6: been a parent. It might have been a neighbor. I
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  S6: love Jonathan's story. How you were there for him when
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  S6: he needed you. It's so amazing to think, God, this
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  S6: is what I'm made for. A lot of people aren't
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  S6: experiencing joy and the kind of supernatural adventure of following Christ,
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  S6: and I firmly believe it's because they're missing their scent identity.
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  S6: I love second Corinthians five. It's a life changing passage
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  S6: to think, okay, God, you're making an appeal through me.
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  S6: If you just go a chapter before it says, we're
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  S6: the aroma of Christ. So like you said when the
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  S6: interview started. I'm not, like forcing this. It's like you
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  S6: walk into a room and you're literally radiating the aroma
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  S6: of Christ, and then you're kind of just like, God,
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  S6: I'm here. I'm available. Help me testify. Help me proclaim.
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  S6: Use your Holy Spirit. It kind of makes the Great
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  S6: Commission really come alive in your life. And it's easy
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  S6: if you're like, I can't do this. It's so easy.
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  S6: You've got great questions, great stories. Just tell people what
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  S6: God's done in your life. And as much as you
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  S6: can bring God's Word into it, that's what really is
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  S6: starting to change people when they encounter Jesus through His Word.
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  S5: Okay, a lot of people freak out over this notion
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  S5: that I've got to have I've got to have some
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  S5: button down theology. My contention is it would be good
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  S5: to be armed with a few central passages of truth,
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  S5: but there's nothing like your story. When push comes to
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  S5: shove and someone says, that's right, you know, and and
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  S5: it invariably happens. I love it when I, I know
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  S5: God has something teed up because the question comes and
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  S5: it's like, wow, God, okay, you're opening a door here.
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  S5: How freeing can this be? Heather. We don't need to
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  S5: have the New Testament memorized.
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  S6: So freeing. In fact, if you want to start today,
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  S6: just I love this question. I actually just learned it
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  S6: last week. If you want to talk to your friends,
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  S6: you can say, I have a question for you. If
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  S6: God existed, if Jesus really did exist, what would you
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  S6: want from him? And they're going to talk about the
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  S6: deepest need of their soul. And if they say, what
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  S6: brought you to Christ? What did you need from him?
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  S6: Every person I've asked has had a different answer to that.
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  S6: And what it does is it opens up your story
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  S6: of transformation. And I always use John 1010. I was
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  S6: crying on my dorm room floor at the University of Virginia,
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  S6: and I remember opening my Bible and reading where Jesus says,
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  S6: I have come, that you may have life and have
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  S6: it abundantly. And I tell my friends, look, I didn't
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  S6: have life. I needed life. It's kind of like what
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  S6: Jonathan was saying. Something wasn't right. Everything was falling apart.
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  S6: When I share that my friends are like, I was like,
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  S6: what would you need from Jesus? I needed life, and
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  S6: then you're having this warm connection. And if your friends
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  S6: say something to you and you can't answer that question,
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  S6: you don't need to worry about it. Remember, I'm a professor.
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  S6: So a lot of my conversations are deeply apologetic, theological.
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  S6: If I can't answer the question, this is what I say.
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  S6: That is a really good question. I have no idea.
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  S6: Would you be willing to read a book with me
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  S6: so we could figure this out together? I never get stuck.
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  S6: I mean, people ask me the other day a professor said, why?
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  S6: Why do we need a blood sacrifice? Why did God
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  S6: set it up that we needed a blood sacrifice? And
• 23:49
  S6: I was like, wait a second, I don't I can't
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  S6: think fast enough in this conversation. Can I get back
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  S6: to you? So you don't need to worry. I mean,
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  S6: even so, I have a PhD and I even get
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  S6: stuck when people ask me hard questions. Do not worry,
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  S6: you don't need to know a lot. You need to
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  S6: know your story. Think of the blind man. He's like, look,
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  S6: I don't know. All I know is I was blind
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  S6: and now I can see. And then as you read
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  S6: passages of Scripture, Romans is probably the best. The book
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  S6: of John. Just think about, you know, to all who
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  S6: receive him, he gave the right to become children of God.
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  S6: That's kind of like a gospel presentation. Have you received him?
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  S6: Why do you want to be a child of God?
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  S6: How can we receive him? And then I love looking
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  S6: at passages in Romans or even what you just said
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  S6: in Second Corinthians. He gave him who had no sin
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  S6: to be sin for us, so we could become the
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  S6: righteousness of God. It's a beautiful gospel presentation, and we
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  S6: just talked about it in, what, a 32nd conversation between
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  S6: you and me, Carl.
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  S5: Yeah. It's so right there. You know, my contention is
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  S5: if there is, we often look at the world and
• 24:51
  S5: we go, oh, man, the world needs. We need a
• 24:54
  S5: spiritual revolution. I my conviction is we need a revolution
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  S5: among the saints that overthrow spiritual systems that have left
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  S5: us stifled, and a revolution into this realization of who
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  S5: I am in Jesus and that I can let my
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  S5: light shine. Give me your best thought on that one. Heather.
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  S6: I love it and I agree with you. I think
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  S6: prayer is foundational. You're really talking about spiritual warfare. If
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  S6: you're going to go into this life. We talk about
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  S6: the seven ways to pray. I mean, you walk around
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  S6: and say, God, give this person a spirit of revelation. Lord,
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  S6: send others to help, you know, help this person. I
• 25:30
  S6: love Psalm 119. I pray this for my students. God
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  S6: turn their eyes from worthless things. Let not their heart
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  S6: be drawn to what is evil. Because everything around the
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  S6: campus of Penn State, I'm like, Lord, the temptations are high.
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  S6: I got to battle in prayer for my students, for
• 25:46
  S6: my community. So I agree. I think once you understand
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  S6: your identity, things are going to. Your whole faith is
• 25:52
  S6: going to feel revolutionized. You're going to feel closer to Jesus.
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  S6: You're going to feel excited about how you said providentially,
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  S6: he's placed you in your neighborhood, your place at work.
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  S6: We talk about it as a theology of place. It's
• 26:04
  S6: no accident where you live, where you work. It's no
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  S6: accident what's happening to you. You may be in a
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  S6: situation that you don't want to be in, but what
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  S6: if you said, what if I'm here because someone here
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  S6: doesn't yet know Jesus? It'll change how you think about suffering.
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  S6: I've been in emergency rooms with kidney stones, and I
• 26:20
  S6: was like, wait, maybe this isn't the story. Maybe I'm
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  S6: here because someone here doesn't yet know Jesus. You just
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  S6: take your. You just take your eyes off yourself. And
• 26:28
  S6: then again, you're attached to a meaningful supernatural adventure. It's
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  S6: helped me deal with a lot of depression and anxiety.
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  S6: It's helped me deal with disappointment. It's really transformed my
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  S6: entire way. I think about my life and my marriage
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  S6: and my parenting.
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  S5: You're putting a fire in our belly here? Yes. This
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  S5: is awesome, Heather.
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  S6: Yes, I love it.
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  S5: Okay, guys, uh, I got a link for you, and
• 26:53
  S5: I think this is going to go out like crazy, man.
• 26:57
  S5: She's written a book called sent. I don't often point
• 27:00
  S5: people to go get a book, but I'm telling you,
• 27:03
  S5: go get a book. It's called sent Living a life
• 27:06
  S5: that invites others to Jesus. She's made reference to even
• 27:10
  S5: how to pray for opportunities and for people that you
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  S5: love around you. And we're going to promote the show
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  S5: cast too, because this is this is one worth keeping here.
• 27:22
  S5: Text the word Heather. Isn't it good guys?
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  S3: So good. What a great conversation.
• 27:26
  S4: I'm on there almost every week.
• 27:28
  S5: Text the word Heather to. What's our number here Jonathan.
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  S3: 805 5578 90.
• 27:36
  S5: That's the right one. Give it again.
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  S3: 805 557898.
• 27:41
  S5: Yeah. Text the word heather to our number. And we
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  S5: are going to have a link sent to you that
• 27:46
  S5: will have her. It's going to have her home page,
• 27:49
  S5: but you can find the book sent Living a Life
• 27:53
  S5: that invites others to Jesus. Heather Holloman with us today.
• 27:56
  S5: And what a joy it's been.
• 27:59
  S1: Get to know the team behind the scenes. Follow Carl
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• 28:05
  S5: Wow. Coming off that interview with Heather Holloman. Boy, that
• 28:09
  S5: is peeled paint time, isn't it?
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  S4: No kidding.
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  S3: Oh my goodness. I love what she said about starting
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  S3: off your morning with like, God, just send me. I
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  S3: just want to be a part. Let me let me
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  S3: be an answer to someone's prayer today. I thought that
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  S3: was such a cool way to start your day with Jesus.
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  S5: Yeah. And there's, and, and then the, the other one
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  S5: is praying someone into the path of those that we love.
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  S3: Yes. Yeah. What a great idea.
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  S5: And that comes out of Psalm 119. Um, what a,
• 28:43
  S5: what a beautiful thing, man. What a beautiful thing. Boy,
• 28:47
  S5: that's a vision for living right there. You know. The
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  S5: grace of God has all the fuel we need To
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  S5: not only save us, but to train us to renounce ungodliness,
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  S5: worldly passions, to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in
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  S5: this present age. And my heart right now is for
• 29:20
  S5: you because you might feel stuck with something. It's like, Carl,
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  S5: I can't shine because I'm harboring something here. Something needs
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  S5: to go. Something needs to come. Renounce ungodliness, worldly passions.
• 29:39
  S5: We can do that right now. You can you can
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  S5: stand up and say, God, by your grace, I want
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  S5: to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions. God, I am asking
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  S5: you to give me the grace to live self-controlled, godly
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  S5: life in this present age. Wow. That we can do.
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  S5: That we can do. And father, right now, in this moment,
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  S5: there's so many that want to radiate you. And they
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  S5: feel like there's things that have to be renounced and
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  S5: things that have to be taken up. And I thank
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  S5: you that it is your grace and your grace alone
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  S5: that fuels that. All you say is submit yourself to me.
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  S5: And we give you thanks for that. You are a
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  S5: good God, Lord. Minister, powerfully to the heart of a
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  S5: person right now who feels like there's something deep in
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  S5: the corner of their heart that they don't even know
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  S5: why it lingers. But Lord, if you've shown it to them,
• 30:43
  S5: you can deliver them from it. You can. Anxiousness. Addiction.
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  S5: Poor choices. Stuck in a death loop of sin, shame, repent, repeat.
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  S5: You can break that cycle. You're in the business of
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  S5: doing that. And I give you thanks today. In Jesus name, Amen.
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  S5: One of the things we want to do is constantly
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  S5: feature here the need to walk in the power of
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  S5: the Holy Spirit. Right, guys?
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  S3: 100%.
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  S7: Always.
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  S5: We want to get after that because it's all about
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  S5: that coming up here in a couple of moments. Doctor
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  S5: Crawford Leyritz.
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  S1: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and Crew.
• 31:38
  S5: Have you ever tried to execute anything in your life
• 31:42
  S5: without having the key component? I don't care what it is.
• 31:47
  S5: I think we've tried to do that in Christianity. I
• 31:52
  S5: discovered and fessed up to the reality that the Holy
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  S5: Spirit was my lost God, not because I wanted that
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  S5: to be the case, but because in this evangelical world,
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  S5: for a lot of different reasons, we've not highlighted the
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  S5: power of the Holy Spirit. And yet Scripture is loaded
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  S5: with this. Crawford Leritz is with me right now. Crawford.
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  S5: Why is that so, my friend? I know that's not
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  S5: news to you.
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  S8: Well, because, you know, the the devil is not sitting
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  S8: back in a neutral position while we get great clarity
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  S8: about the work, and the ministry of the Holy Spirit
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  S8: is transforming power in our lives. He's going to throw
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  S8: in the monkey wrench of confusion. And just as you
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  S8: said at setting this all up, you know, he's going
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  S8: to get us spending so much time correcting error. That
• 32:42
  S8: is important, don't get me wrong, but so much time
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  S8: correcting and what's wrong with the overemphasis and this kind
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  S8: of thing that it camouflages and covers the beauty and
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  S8: the power of the Spirit of God that produces transformation
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  S8: in our hearts and lives. And so, you know, it's
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  S8: spiritual warfare at its zenith. God wants Christians to settle
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  S8: for process rather than for the person of Jesus and
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  S8: the power of the Spirit of God to move us
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  S8: down the road.
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  S5: Yeah. And what that leads to is what we find
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  S5: Paul saying in Galatia, because his letter, he says, who
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  S5: has bewitched you that that you began in the spirit?
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  S5: Why are you working out in the flesh? And you
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  S5: could almost take that passage and put that over the church.
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  S5: And I'm not bashing the church, but we've we've struggled
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  S5: with this. We've tried to have a behavioralism Christianity that
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  S5: is void of the power of God. How can we
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  S5: turn this around? And in your study of the power
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  S5: of the spirit, and we're going to point you boom
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  S5: crew to an unbelievable message from Crawford here in just
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  S5: a little bit on this very topic. Give us the
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  S5: high points. What do we need to reclaim here? Crawford.
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  S8: Leadership is very important. I think the very first thing
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  S8: is those of us who have known Christ for a
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  S8: while and who are committed to discipleship, which is the
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  S8: core of the Great Commission, it's the essence of what
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  S8: God's doing in the world. Then we are the ones
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  S8: that need to be very clear not only about this message,
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  S8: but portraits of the destination at which others need to arrive.
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  S8: In other words, we need to model a healthy, surrendered
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  S8: life to Jesus, and that needs to be the centerpiece
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  S8: of our discipleship. You know, I find that many of
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  S8: us who preach and teach unwittingly, we gravitate toward the
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  S8: how to's, which is important, but we forget that discipleship
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  S8: is not a series of mastering certain spiritual disciplines, but rather,
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  S8: discipleship is a surrendered life. It's all about surrendering to
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  S8: the power of the Spirit of God that's inside of us.
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  S8: That makes clear the Word of Christ and the Word
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  S8: of God and pushes us toward Christ likeness. And I
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  S8: think the other thing, Carl, is that no one will
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  S8: ever instrumentalize themselves in the transformation. Decision precedes development. And
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  S8: so you've got to decide to surrender to the indwelling
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  S8: spirit in order to be controlled by the spirit and
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  S8: realize its importance. And so all these other elements. It's
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  S8: the clarity of teaching. It's the modeling of our leaders,
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  S8: and it's keeping central the essence of what discipleship is
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  S8: all about. And that is Christ likeness. Then guess what?
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  S8: You ain't going to be like Jesus until you're controlled
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  S8: by the Spirit of God.
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  S5: Amen. Doctor Crawford is our guest right now. And Crawford,
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  S5: as I was looking years ago now at Jesus is
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  S5: teaching and I love John 14, John 16, Romans eight.
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  S5: Those are powerful chapters. You see that Jesus told his disciples,
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  S5: and I love to remind our listeners of this. It's
• 35:55
  S5: to your advantage that I go away. I got a
• 35:58
  S5: funny story. I had Ian Thomas way back in the day.
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  S5: He was the founder of Torchbearer School. I had him
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  S5: up in Alaska and he he was just a funny guy,
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  S5: short guy, really committed to Jesus and committed to the
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  S5: power of the Holy Spirit. And we're sitting there, we're
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  S5: sitting at a sushi joint with about 20 of our
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  S5: staff from our church. And he. This is when the
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  S5: what would Jesus do? Bracelets were popular. He looked at me.
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  S5: He goes, he's bracelets. And I said, well, what's up Ian?
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  S5: And he said, we don't have to ask what Jesus
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  S5: would do. Jesus said, it's to your advantage that I go.
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  S5: The Holy Spirit's going to come. The Spirit of God
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  S5: will remind us of this. And he has a voice,
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  S5: and he'll use it. Speak about the voice of the
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  S5: spirit to. As Jesus said, the spirit will remind you
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  S5: of all that I have given you.
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  S8: Well, that's his work, The Spirit of God. His job,
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  S8: so to speak, is to glorify Christ, right? Yes. And
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  S8: to guide us into all truth. And so his job,
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  S8: his job is to guide us and give us clarity,
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  S8: to illuminate the Word of God, to make it clear
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  S8: to our hearts and minds, to cherish it, but also
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  S8: in the cherishing of the word of the written word.
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  S8: He wants us to be like the word that became flesh. Yeah.
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  S8: That's his job. The job of the Spirit of God is,
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  S8: you know, it's not all these, uh, manifestations in this
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  S8: kind of thing. I'm not saying that he doesn't do that.
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  S8: Understand that the focal point is on Christ's likeness. Even
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  S8: even the fruit of the spirit in Galatians five, that
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  S8: it can be argued that that's a biographical profile of
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  S8: the person of Jesus.
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  S7: Yeah.
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  S8: And so he wants us to look like him.
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  S5: Okay. Uh, we touched on this almost. But let's go there.
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  S5: We have championed, and I love them, the spiritual disciplines
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  S5: of service and of giving and of serving, and of
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  S5: small group attending and all that. But these spiritual disciplines
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  S5: of silence, introspection. I've been drilling down and praying every
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  S5: morning now for a number of years. Search me, know me,
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  S5: try me. Uh, it's David's prayer at the end of
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  S5: Psalm 139, knowing what he learned. And that is, we
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  S5: don't see ourselves rightly. How can the Spirit of God
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  S5: meet with us and direct us when we begin to
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  S5: let him cultivate that voice in the inner man? Crawford?
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  S8: Well, you know, I think the way you phrased the
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  S8: questions and answers, the question itself, when we allow him
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  S8: to cultivate that inner voice. And let's be clear about this,
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  S8: the Word of God, Genesis to revelation, is the voice
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  S8: of God.
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  S7: Yes.
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  S8: And so when we go into silence and solitude. It's
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  S8: not an untethered silence and solitude.
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  S5: Amen.
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  S8: When we go into silence and the solitude, we're telling
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  S8: ourselves to sit down and be quiet so we can
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  S8: hear what God has already been saying. It's not like
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  S8: we're going to silence and solitude, and we expect the
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  S8: clouds to give us this mystical word that comes from
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  S8: the 67th book of the Bible, and it's and all that.
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  S8: We quiet our hearts. In fact, Carl. I have discovered
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  S8: the longer I walk with Jesus, the less volume God
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  S8: uses to speak to me. Meaning I'm the one that
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  S8: has to turn down all the noise in my head
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  S8: in order for me to hear what he's always been saying.
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  S5: How does that work for you? Crawford. Um. How does,
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  S5: how does that work?
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  S8: When I get along with the Lord, I have to
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  S8: declutter my head. So I sit down and, you know,
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  S8: sometimes there's some very practical things. I have my journal
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  S8: and the Bible open before me, and sometimes I take a.
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  S8: I literally just dump all the all the thoughts in
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  S8: my mind. Just write it all down. You know that
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  S8: that that might be distracting and push it aside and
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  S8: then ask God to speak to me.
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  S7: Amen.
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  S8: And I first go to his word. I don't go
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  S8: to untethered impulses. I go to his word first. And.
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  S8: And that word springs my heart and my mind, and
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  S8: I just listen. I just listen and I pour my
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  S8: heart out to God. But then more often than not,
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  S8: you know, things are clear, their thoughts and other things
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  S8: that come to mind. And I want to say this too,
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  S8: and these thoughts that come to mind, I often will
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  S8: bounce them off of other brothers, uh, in Christ that
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  S8: are close to me in this kind of thing, just
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  S8: to make sure that I'm hearing directly from the Lord.
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  S8: And it's being it's being confirmed by others. But that's
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  S8: kind of what I what I do. And sometimes I'll
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  S8: take a day with the Lord, I will leave, I
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  S8: will leave my phone, I go to a certain place
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  S8: and I leave my phone in the car and I
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  S8: just take my Bible and journal. There's just too much
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  S8: access to us, right?
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  S7: Yeah.
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  S8: But given my personality, if if first thing in the morning, I,
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  S8: I check my email, text messages or whatever, this kind
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  S8: of thing. Katie. Bar the door.
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  S7: Yeah. We're off man.
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  S8: Man.
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  S7: It's like, no.
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  S5: I mean, it's so true. Crawford. And what's interesting, what's
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  S5: interesting my man is, and this is so fascinating when
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  S5: I sit alone with the Lord, it it seems like
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  S5: what the Spirit of God reminds me of are simple
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  S5: truths like, yeah, listen, love your bride as Christ loves
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  S5: the church and the Spirit of God will be as
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  S5: practical with me. As you know what, Carl? You flew
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  S5: a little too fast. Buy something your wife was sharing
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  S5: with you yesterday. We got to go back, and you
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  S5: got to live with her in an understanding way. Because
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  S5: you don't want your prayers bouncing off ceilings here, young man. Yeah, it's.
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  S5: It's that practical, isn't it, Crawford.
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  S8: It certainly is. And you know, the Spirit of God
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  S8: not only deals with the what he deals with the why.
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  S8: You know, when you sit down and you're quiet about
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  S8: things and you allow the Spirit of God to just
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  S8: do his work in your heart and life, it's not only,
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  S8: you know. Well, Crawford, you know, you kind of a
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  S8: little short with Karen this morning. It also, if you
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  S8: if you listen to the Spirit of God will say
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  S8: to you, you know, now why do you think you
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  S8: did that?
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  S7: Oh, you're right about that.
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  S5: Crawford.
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  S8: Yeah. Why why do you think you did that? You know,
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  S8: I know it's popular to say, oh, we don't know
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  S8: our motivations and this kind of thing. know, and you know,
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  S8: nobody knows really why they do it. I don't buy
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  S8: that completely. Uh, yeah. We may not, you know, we
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  S8: may not specifically know, but if we listen to the
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  S8: Spirit of God.
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  S5: He'll tell us.
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  S8: He'll point and say, yeah, you know, that was because
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  S8: of his selfishness inside of you, your own sin here. Yeah.
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  S8: And you know why you said that in that meeting?
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  S8: You know why.
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  S5: You asked.
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  S8: It that way.
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  S5: So listen, I've been on the fly in the middle
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  S5: of a message. I don't know if this has happened
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  S5: to you. And I'm on the fly in the middle
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  S5: of a message, and I hear the Spirit of God
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  S5: tell me. You tell this like we talked about and
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  S5: don't have a don't go this down this route. That
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  S5: could be self-aggrandizing or self-loathing. You know what I'm saying, Crawford?
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  S8: Oh, yeah. Painfully. I know what you're saying.
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