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3 Guys Before The Game - Wren Baker Visits (Episode 665) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in everybody. Yes, the music is on, which
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  Speaker 1: means we have to start talking. And have I said
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  Speaker 1: this to you before? We got a good one for you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we got a good one. First time you
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  Speaker 1: said that? Yeah, first time ever.
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  Speaker 2: I never said that before.
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  Speaker 1: Normally I only only use that during the summer series.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the summer, it's the fall. The leaves are
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  Speaker 1: coming out of the tree. But look what fell into
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  Speaker 1: our studio, ladies and gentlemen. The Director of Athletics, Vice
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  Speaker 1: President WVU Wren Baker. What we call special if we
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  Speaker 1: don't go a special episode or we want to say we're.
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  Speaker 3: Special because Ren is joining us, but regularly scheduled episode.
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  Speaker 3: But we got important news to discuss, got.
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  Speaker 1: A big one. That's what i'most to say. How about this,
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  Speaker 1: It is a significant day in the history fair of
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  Speaker 1: this thing. What's probably way to say?
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  Speaker 4: How stones are ding? And we're not even through the intro?
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  Speaker 1: Is your phone on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm sorry he never turns it off. We'll turn off.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry that I got it. I turned it on. I
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  Speaker 2: got it.
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing. See, you think you got some
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  Speaker 1: things like you'd like to get settled down a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: This is what we have to deal with.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've watched a few of you guys's other shows,
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  Speaker 4: and and he doesn't do this to other guests, but
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  Speaker 4: every time I'm on here. He creates distractions, disrespect phone.
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  Speaker 4: Last time he was squeaking his chair over there, like
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I have to have the phone on in case Pete
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  Speaker 2: Samill breaks another story.
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  Speaker 4: Hey one one last thing, Tony another showing quickly another voting.
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  Speaker 4: Seasons went by and I've not been invited on the
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  Speaker 4: on the How Family Pontoon boat.
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  Speaker 1: What happened there, dude?
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  Speaker 3: I thought, I don't know that I was invited on
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  Speaker 3: the How Family Pants play.
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  Speaker 1: How many times did you go this summer? Three?
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  Speaker 3: I think three ish.
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  Speaker 1: That's not enough.
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  Speaker 3: May take the under on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, Lil Wendell not happy with you.
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  Speaker 4: We probably should have taken one of those pontunes to
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  Speaker 4: provo and back as long as.
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  Speaker 2: It you did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were happy and I would have beat you
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  Speaker 3: if we would have loaded up in the content, would
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  Speaker 3: beat you.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of a long a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a long night turned into the morning. So obviously WV
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  Speaker 1: off this weekend on the football side of things, which
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  Speaker 1: just perfectly falls into the announcement that came out today.
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  Speaker 1: We're recording on Thursday, October the ninth, and the announcement
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  Speaker 1: you've been trickling this I've been calling it a pretty
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  Speaker 1: steady two week to two and a half week trickle.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of threw it out there. Yeah, some things are
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  Speaker 1: going to be happening. We're gonna add some scholarships. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you added more than scholars You added pretty much one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and forty scholarships, which is game changing, precedent setting
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  Speaker 1: news in this new world that we're in. So this
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  Speaker 1: is all good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, if you go back to the summer when
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  Speaker 4: I was here, we talked about how we were allocating
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  Speaker 4: our rev share number, and I alluded to for us
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  Speaker 4: to compete long term in our Olympic sports, we were
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  Speaker 4: gonna need to increase our scholarship allitment. To help with that.
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  Speaker 4: We had left our Austin allocation in place, the Academic
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  Speaker 4: Incentive awards, but it isn't truly as impactful as as
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  Speaker 4: the scholarships, and so you know, fast forward, you know, well,
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  Speaker 4: let's rewind a little bit. You guys know that pretty
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  Speaker 4: much ever since I've been here, we've been doing assessments
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  Speaker 4: and having meetings here on a national consulting firm come
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  Speaker 4: in really looked at what do we need to do
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  Speaker 4: to compete put ourselves in that top tier the Big Twelve.
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  Speaker 4: You saw our board pass the resolution a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 4: which was really important. And then this is another step
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  Speaker 4: in several steps to ensure that across our sports portfolio
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  Speaker 4: that we have a chance to continue to compete at
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  Speaker 4: at a very high level.
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  Speaker 1: With this announcement, Where does that now put West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: among the other Big twelve schools in regard to scholarship offerings?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I would say it would have to be in
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  Speaker 4: the top one or two for sure now, So it's
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  Speaker 4: a while, it's a it's a big, big addition. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we had so we have about five hundred roster spots
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  Speaker 4: in the in the new model, and so five hundred athletes,
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  Speaker 4: we had about two hundred and sixty scholarships. So you
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  Speaker 4: just think of the impact of adding one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: forty to that. It's an over fifty percent increase in
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  Speaker 4: the number of scholarships that we have and so very
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  Speaker 4: very impactful. You know, different sports are impacted. You know,
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  Speaker 4: let's take basketball for instance, they're roster numbers fifteen. Women's
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  Speaker 4: basketball already had fifteen scholarships. Men's basketball had thirteen, so
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be much impact to them. In fact, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know that either of them had requested women's basketball couldn't
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  Speaker 4: have any more additional scholarships. I don't think men's basketball
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  Speaker 4: really requested additional But you go over to baseball, who
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  Speaker 4: has thirty four roster spots and was operating with eleven
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  Speaker 4: point seven scholarships. There's a lot of figures that and
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  Speaker 4: I can't recite them all, but baseball is going to
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  Speaker 4: go to twenty eight scholarships and so massive. They'll have
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  Speaker 4: more than double the number of scholarships that that they
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  Speaker 4: had the last few years, including this year. And so
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  Speaker 4: that's a massive increase for them, and and should ensure
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  Speaker 4: that what we've built with the momentum in baseball, sports
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  Speaker 4: like men and women's soccer can continue.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead and be careful for Ren. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: advising you in advance. Kind of a counsel. He not
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  Speaker 1: only has the laptop out, he's got the legal pad
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  Speaker 1: propped up on the laptop board. So here you go.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and when them will be into a scoop, he
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  Speaker 4: comes with his stinger out. Yes, you know now you're
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  Speaker 4: starting starting from that right there, like it's already hoppy.
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  Speaker 1: When did you find out today that theam will got
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  Speaker 1: you again? Uh what time was it but a little
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  Speaker 1: bit before ten? I think peek, Yeah, posting like that.
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  Speaker 1: What did it feel like for you when you find
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  Speaker 1: when you saw that? Yeah, I do. What did it
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  Speaker 1: feel that? Were you mad? Were angry? Did you have
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  Speaker 1: a sense to call w Ren?
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  Speaker 2: What did you No, I'm semi retired. I can't fight
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  Speaker 2: that fight every day. I was just teasing about ten.
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  Speaker 2: And also, here's the other thing is that we're we're
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  Speaker 2: kind of semi connected at the hip with these guys.
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  Speaker 2: So there's some things you know, but you don't know
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  Speaker 2: whether you can report them because you don't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I would have another to try to report that. I
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  Speaker 2: would have to call Rin and say I'm hearing this,
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  Speaker 2: I want to report something, and then we'd go from there.
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  Speaker 2: He either tell me or not tell me. And I
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  Speaker 2: didn't call you, So I get it. It's okay, It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Is sure.
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  Speaker 4: There's things that Hoppy cares more about breaking than others.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, presidential when they hire the new president. You're so.
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  Speaker 2: But look, I think this is a couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is really really significant variety of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: One is you're going to one twenty four for the
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  Speaker 2: Olympic sports. I mean you're solidifying those Olympic sports, most
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  Speaker 2: of them. I mean you immediately go to the top
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  Speaker 2: of the tier in the big twelve in Olympic sports,
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  Speaker 2: number one, number two, football gets sixteen more so football
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  Speaker 2: you got one hundred and five is your maximum on roster,
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  Speaker 2: and one hundred and one scholarships, So good shape there.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest The other big thing I think is it
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  Speaker 2: frees up revenue sharing money. I think that's huge, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the number is and whether you
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  Speaker 2: want to share, but that means if you give the
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  Speaker 2: additional scholarships, you do not have to dilute. Maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: the wrong term revenue sharing money with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these Olympic sports. You can use that for football and basketball,
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  Speaker 2: So correct me if I'm wrong. This also frees up
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  Speaker 2: revenue sharing money for the money making sports.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would somewhat, but I probably phrase that a
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  Speaker 4: little different. So we go back to last summer, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the kapus twenty and a half million. We did two
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  Speaker 4: million of Austin money, so we rev shared eighteen and
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  Speaker 4: a half million dollars we budgeted and rev shared twenty
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  Speaker 4: and a half million, But in terms of just revshare payments,
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  Speaker 4: eighteen and a half settlement says Austin counts, new scholarships counts.
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  Speaker 4: What we did is we're sunsetting Austin, which was the
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  Speaker 4: academic incentive award that you were approved to be able
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  Speaker 4: to do last year, and we're replacing that with scholarship.
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  Speaker 4: So that means that you'll have a two and a
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  Speaker 4: half million dollar debit against that twenty and a half
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  Speaker 4: million rev share, But that number is going to grow
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  Speaker 4: by about eight hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars, right, because it grows four percent of there.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, and so and the reality is
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  Speaker 4: of the money that you're actually rev share that's going
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  Speaker 4: the vast majority of it's going to football, men's basketball,
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  Speaker 4: baseball has some, volleyball, I mean, women's basketball has some,
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  Speaker 4: and then volleyball men and women's soccer get a smaller,
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  Speaker 4: more negligible amount, but the vast majority is going to
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  Speaker 4: those two sports. So what this does is it gives
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  Speaker 4: all of the rest of those sports what they need
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  Speaker 4: to compete in this modern world. And now you can
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  Speaker 4: focus really on two things. One is making sure that
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  Speaker 4: your revenue sports have the revenue rev share that they
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  Speaker 4: need to be competitive. And then two, making sure that
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  Speaker 4: you're putting a lot of effort and attention into helping
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  Speaker 4: identify and grow real INIL deals with businesses across the
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  Speaker 4: region and state to get real above the cap in
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  Speaker 4: IL money to help extend that because that and so
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  Speaker 4: for people at home that own a business and they
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  Speaker 4: you know, they love the Mountaineers and they want them
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  Speaker 4: to do well. Anytime that that you can do a
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  Speaker 4: sponsorship deal with one of our student athletes, you are
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  Speaker 4: in effect helping us extend that overall pie that can
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  Speaker 4: be shared. Because whether the money is coming from us
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  Speaker 4: or from a business, what the student athlete cares about is, hey,
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  Speaker 4: what's my what's my take home for the year. And
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  Speaker 4: so so that's really what this does is it shores
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  Speaker 4: up our Olympic our Olympic sports programs, puts them in
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  Speaker 4: a place where they can compete in the Big twelve
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  Speaker 4: and nationally, and allows us to focus on the next
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  Speaker 4: part of the plan, which is to is to make
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  Speaker 4: sure that we're growing revenues to cover the revenue that
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  Speaker 4: we're sharing, but we are going to share the full amount.
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  Speaker 4: And then to identify above the cap nil deals.
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  Speaker 2: But but but it does probably quiet those Olympic sports
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  Speaker 2: in terms of where's our share of the revenue share.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's fair because you know, previously what some
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  Speaker 4: of them was said is because some schools had added scholarships.
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State was one that added over one hundred scholarships
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  Speaker 4: last for this past year, and so a lot of
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  Speaker 4: SEC schools had added scholarships for baseball in particular, and
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  Speaker 4: so you know, they were trying to take a little
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  Speaker 4: austin and extra revs share and trying to piece together
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  Speaker 4: and we we've said, hey, for for a lot of them,
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  Speaker 4: they might be trying to get some money in the
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  Speaker 4: pocket of two or three players, but they're really just
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  Speaker 4: trying to get everybody to where they've got their full
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  Speaker 4: cost of attendance covered. And so we've we've taken that
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  Speaker 4: that worry, that concern, that headache off the plate and
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  Speaker 4: allow them to focus on other goals.
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  Speaker 3: Along those lines, I would think from a leadership and
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  Speaker 3: an internal pr perspective, because football and basketball get the
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  Speaker 3: majority of the discussion, but you're still running an apartment
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  Speaker 3: with eighteen different sports, and you want those sports to
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  Speaker 3: be good and you want those coaches to feel like
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  Speaker 3: they have a shot to be competitive. I would think
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  Speaker 3: internal pr for those particular Olympic coaches baseball in particular,
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  Speaker 3: is one they have to be thrilled with. This in
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  Speaker 3: an era when we spend so much time talking about
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  Speaker 3: football and men's basketball and nil type stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, in the spring, Will will take the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to visit one on one in a more formal
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  Speaker 4: setting with all of our head coaches. And I told
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  Speaker 4: our senior staff at one point it's the most miserable
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  Speaker 4: three or four weeks in my life, because you know
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  Speaker 4: those coaches, I mean, they're highly competitive and you want
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  Speaker 4: that in them. I mean I always try to remind
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  Speaker 4: our senior leadership team when there's frustrations with the unquenchable
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  Speaker 4: thirst of coaches wanting more. I always say, you'd pull
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  Speaker 4: the reins on a thoroughbread then have to kick a
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  Speaker 4: donkey in the butt, right like all the point, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: and so I try to tell myself that when we're
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  Speaker 4: going through those but they all want to zoom to
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  Speaker 4: the outlier. Well, this program has X, how am I
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  Speaker 4: supposed to compete? This program has why? And and they're there,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I won't say it's universally this is true.
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  Speaker 4: But this, this move for the majority of our Olympic
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  Speaker 4: sports programs puts us in a place where we should
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  Speaker 4: be able to compete at a very high level nationally.
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  Speaker 4: And and so you know that that from an athletic
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  Speaker 4: director standpoint, to know that hey, we've got that taken
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  Speaker 4: care of. Now we can we can focus on these
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  Speaker 4: other things, you know, is very helpful financially.
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  Speaker 1: How do y'all get this done?
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  Speaker 4: Well? We were planning on starting our own podcast to
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  Speaker 4: compete with three guys. We're gonna do four solid they
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  Speaker 4: would watch three guys. I think four would probably take
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  Speaker 4: it over. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 4: The Hope Coliseum naming, you know, I think I alluded
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  Speaker 4: to that helps us do things like be at the
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  Speaker 4: full rev share and and add scholarships. We have, you know,
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  Speaker 4: announced some some changes in some of our giving structure.
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  Speaker 4: We announced we're going to proceed in basketball, for instance,
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  Speaker 4: We're continuing to try and chase down additional revenue streams.
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  Speaker 4: We're continuing to to hone in and get focused on
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  Speaker 4: and and and our advancing in our plans to increase
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  Speaker 4: our premium seating. But a big part of this is, uh,
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  Speaker 4: we sit down with campus collectively said how can we
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  Speaker 4: make this work? And for the universe of athletes. It's
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  Speaker 4: likely that we're going to now be paying an in
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  Speaker 4: state tuition rate, so we'll still pay for for what
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  Speaker 4: we're for the scholarships, but we're we're getting that in
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  Speaker 4: state rate and having having to instead of having to
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  Speaker 4: pay out of state, and that significant, say, and so
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  Speaker 4: we will be able to take those savings and then
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  Speaker 4: apply those towards towards these new scholarships.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's a that's significant.
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  Speaker 3: That's a that's a decade long ask or discussion point
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  Speaker 3: that's been out there that finally gets done.
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  Speaker 1: That that goes decade way back to Neil Buckler when he
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  Speaker 1: was president. He's the one that took away the tuition him.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: And and I'll give a ton of credit to our
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  Speaker 4: Board of Governor's President Benson and then the university's leadership team,
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  Speaker 4: my colleagues on on his cabinet. I think three or
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  Speaker 4: four things are very much true. One, everybody wants and
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  Speaker 4: feels like the university needs for athletics to be successful. Two,
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  Speaker 4: everybody feels strongly that it's important that that's not just
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  Speaker 4: one or two sports, but that we try to provide
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  Speaker 4: a quality experience and an opportunity to be competitive for
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  Speaker 4: our full portfolio sports. And three. You know, we're not
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  Speaker 4: asking to to to get these spots for nothing. We
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  Speaker 4: are willing to pay. We're just asking that they beat
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  Speaker 4: the in state rate. And when you're coming from a
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  Speaker 4: state with a lower population, inherently you don't produce near
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  Speaker 4: as many blue chip Division one Power Conference level athletes,
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  Speaker 4: and so that out of state rate affects us much
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  Speaker 4: more than it would an institution in Texas who's going
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  Speaker 4: to have a big percentage of their athletes from right
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  Speaker 4: there in state.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to do the math in my head,
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  Speaker 2: which is dangerous. So when you have scholarships for two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty, majority of those are out of state,
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  Speaker 2: So you're reimbursing the university for out of state tuition.
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  Speaker 2: So now you're going to four hundred, you're adding one forty,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody is going to be on in state tuition.
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  Speaker 2: So is the bottom line you're actually going to be
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  Speaker 2: paying less or just a little more, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Right, the total costs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say the cost to us is probably
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  Speaker 4: going to be similar, if not slightly more. But the
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  Speaker 4: university rather it was through us paying that out of state.
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  Speaker 4: The students who were walking on previously paying in state
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  Speaker 4: or out of state. They were that that revenue was
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  Speaker 4: coming in from somewhere, so therefore going capturing that revenue
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  Speaker 4: bucket from somewhere and in an effort to help us
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  Speaker 4: pay this.
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  Speaker 2: So the university, the academic side would say, are downtown
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  Speaker 2: downtown Downtown I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't use that downtown town one university, but they are.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: But then that makes them really more of a partner
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: in what you're doing.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: No question. I mean our board of governors and President
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Benson uh and the rest of his team have been
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: tremendous partners in supportive and and this isn't like you
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: all have to do this or here's what we need.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: This is sitting down collectively and saying what can we
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: do to help, knowing that it is a goal for
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: the university to ensure athletics is successful to move into
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: that top tier of funding. And this is a big
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: piece of it. It's not the only piece, but an
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: important piece. And so it really was everybody coming together
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: and saying what's the best way to do this? And
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I think getting that in state rate for the universe
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: of athletes is probably more palatable than leaving the system
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the way it was and getting a cash transfer. On
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: the other end, it it feels different that people can
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: understand an internal discount rate for something that's as important
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: to the university's brand and marketing as athletics is you.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Have I'm going to ask you an impossible question to answer,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: but maybe speculate a little bit. You've come off the
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: starting line really quickly here. You mentioned you're one of
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: the leaders here, certainly in this conference and across the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: country and doing this any thought or can you foresee
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: how long you keep that lead being in a copycat
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: business that others are going to look around and say, hey,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: look what West Virginia is doing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: It's a tough question. Not as impossible as when my
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: wife tries on two different outfits and ask which one
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I like best?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: You look beautiful and both of the dear either one
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: really difficultside, which one of them both best?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I've ever seen? So I suspect that most people work
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: in the same boat we were. They were trying to
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: figure out for their revenue sports how to get the
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: majority of the rev share funded. First, Some added scholarships
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: last year. I remember Ohio State added a bunch of scholarships,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: for instance. But I do think I would bet you
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: that every baseball coach in the conference is probably setting
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: up a meeting with their a D right now to
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: talk about so probably, like any time somebody does something,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: it's going to put pressure on other people in the
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: in the conference to do the same. Now, some added
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: a more negli number of scholarships this year, you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Like we were one of the few that didn't add
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: any scholarships this past year, but we were also on
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: the few that left Austin. So I kept reminding our coaches, well,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: you have that Austin, and there's a scholarship value that
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: that that is too that it extends your scholarship budget.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: But you know there there's definitely you know, I would
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: say it'll be an advantage uh for two, three, four years.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: But but people will start making progress towards that because
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: no one's going to sit there and let you. Kevin White,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: the former Idea duke who's on the Heuron team, UH,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the line he uses when he's presenting is you're chasing
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: people who are chasing people, and so nobody but nobody
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: is sitting there waiting on you to to catch them
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: and pass them by.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: You know what, you know what you're doing, though you're doing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: We're not a higher state and we're not You're doing
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: what you can do. Yeah, okay, you've you've you have
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: an avenue and you're going that avenue. You're not trying
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to say we got to raise all this. You know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: we have to do all this with N I L
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: or everything else. I mean, I think it's a really
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: smart play.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, I would say the toughest few
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: months that I've had on this job has been the
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: last six or seven months, because it does feel like.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: A second time out. Say that again, I know.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Because there is some stuff.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: This has been the toughest six or seven month Wait
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: wait a second. You want you like.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: To attract though I wouldn't because the things that happen
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: with having to make a change at head coach or
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: somebody makes a mistake, right that's a coach or student athlete.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Those are things that are temporary. You know, you can
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: work through it. There's there's acute pain, but you but
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: you move past it. You know, as we went through
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: those spring meetings with coaches and everyone, you have simp
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: a sympathetic heart to what their plight is and what
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: they're going through and what their concern is. But you
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: don't have the ability. You know, you literally feel like
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: you're you're putting lipstick on a bunch of different pigs,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: but you're not really like solving anybody's problem and spreading
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: things out thinner than you would like. And this really
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: takes a lot of your sports and says, hey, for
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the next couple of years, we've given you a much
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: better situation to compete in. It's not going to be
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: the end all be all for everybody for all times,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: but this is a major and major thing that's gonna
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: really help you be able to compete. Now, let's take
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: our entire team's effort and energy and go focus on
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: how we make sure that these revenue sports have what
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: they need.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Three guys, before the game is brought to us by
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Comac's business systems. You just heard Ren say wanted to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: take care of the people that work for You know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: if you're in a business, why don't you take care
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of the people that work for you. Ren did it
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: with scholarships, you can do it with water. I mean
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: we're calling this I twelve water cooler, some are calling
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it revolutionary. Is this better?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And carrying the big water jets?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Here are those? Number one? Those things hurt your shoulders.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Then you got plastic. That's a whole nother deal. The
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I twelve water cooler that Comas has right now, Ren
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: does both hot and cold water and ice. I mean,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: why not put it in your break room, put it
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: on your floor, wherever your manufacturing is, wherever it might be.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Put it in there. Contact COMAXWV dot com. Ask them.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: But by the way, they also have I don't know
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: if you know this, every single kind of office equipment
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: ever made in the world, Like if you name it,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Like what do you want? You want to curl paper clips?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: They got a machine and make a paper clips whatever
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you need.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Tony knows I'm a massive water cans big guy. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: mean basic gallon today at see that at least.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: A gallon to day three guys, also brought to us
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: by Jan Dill's attorneys at law, Ren has not taken
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: advantage of their services. Although hydrated to this point, you
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: have not needed veterans benefits or Social Security claims. They're
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: based right here in the state of West Virginia and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: have clients in all fifty of our states. If you
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: are someone that you know is going through that process,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: we're starting to go through that process military benefits or
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: social Security claims. They happen to do it at a
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: superb level and they will guide you through the process.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Your big analytics guy, eighty eight percent of the people
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that file first time for Social Security. Get the no.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Get these folks involved right from the beginning, and your
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: percentages will go and you don't pay a single penny
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: until they get money for you for an answer that's correct.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Kind of like Wren won't take no for an answer
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: when you told so, the coaches sit down with you, you say, hey,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in a perfect world, tell me what you need and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: they say, I need this many more scholarships. Then months
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: go by and you come back to them and you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: start making phone calls or call them into your office
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and you say, okay, Steve Sabans, okay, Jen Greeney, Dan Stratford,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: who Hoppy by the way, hired Nicky is overrown, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you say, this is what we're doing. What were the reactions.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Well, some of those conversations were had with their sport
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: program administrators, but by and large, I think the number
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: they were expecting we would come back with and the
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: number that we come back with were we're drastically different.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I don't think they were thinking they were gonna get
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: as me scholarships as they as as what they're going
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: to get. And so you know, excitement, uh, and and enthusiasm. Now,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I try to remind people all the time if if
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: you took a head coach and you said, Tony, you're
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: you're the head coach of badminton here. I want you
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to make me a list of everything you need to
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: to to win a championship, and I give you everything
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: on that list, and I come back to you in
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: a month and and said, hey, Tony, do you have
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: everything you need to win a championship on You didn't
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: have another list, And so, uh, then that's just coach, Like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: that's just coaches. You do this long enough, you know
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: that they're just wired to always be thinking about how
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: can I take this to the next level? What what
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: would would make us better? And and you know, their
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: jobs to go out and help people grow and develop
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: and to win games. Uh, they have a disc shary
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: responsibility for douciary, but I don't think they take that
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: near seriously as they do those other responsibilities.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And so budget budgets a little loga.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: So yeah, but they were, they were very excited, very
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: very pleased. You know, they all ask if they could
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: write notes to our board in the university leadership and
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: so they're doing that. But yeah, they're they're very excited.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Think about this without this addition of scholarships. Right now,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: standing today, track and field number top ten of the country,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: number one of the mid Atlantic region. Both women's soccer
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and men's soccer are both top twenty five, and they
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: both have number five RPIs going into this weekend's action,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: right and baseball two super regionals. Don't think about that,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I mean rifle wins the World's championship. I mean think
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: about that. That's what they're doing with what they have.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, volleyball's cooking right now.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Volleyball's starting to percolate. Gen's got those guys competing and percolating.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Now right they're taking they took a mass step forward.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Is I mean volleyball top of all time from top
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: to bottom. Volleyball is the deepest sport we have in
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: the Big twelve. Everybody is in that top seventy five. Wow,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: you know, and so it is a tough, tough league
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: to compete in. There just literally is no give mes
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: on any night you got. I mean we, Tony and
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: I were at the match last night against Cincinnati and
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: they had a player that I feel like it was
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: like watching Lebron play in high school. You know, dominant,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: very dominant, and so so you know. But but coach
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Green's done a great job.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Let's dive a little deeper on the baseball part of this,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: because I'm I'm just amazed at what baseball is Tony.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You just said what they've been able to do with
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the resources they're given. I don't just mean here, I
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: mean nationally what baseball programs have done over time where
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you have significant contributors in your starting lineup are paying
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: their own way to school. And for West Virginia now
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: to be in the position is with that stadium, the
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: performance center where you have what will soon be the
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: cy Young Award winner coming down here to work out
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: because the pro facility doesn't have the same facilities as
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: here to now going back in and fully funding this.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: That's remarkable what baseball has been able to do from
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: a program perspective. And this is kind of a cherry
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: on top of that, isn't it?
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: It is? And you know I spoke to the baseball
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: team a few days ago. They the returners from last
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: year got their super Regional rings and uh and the
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: athletic director got his as well. So you were down there,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: uh but uh And I told them, I said, I said,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: you're walking into a program that has that has grown
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: beyond anybody's while this imagination, Like I know when Randy
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: got here and he and Oliver were out selling the vision,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: this big bold vision to for the for the program,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: when when that uh uh tiff was put together to
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: build the baseball park, I know they price sold this
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: kind of vision. But deep down inside, if you give
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: them truth sarum, did they really think that this program
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: could be as consistently good as what it's been now
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: for three or four years? Maybe they did, but I
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: find that hard to believe. And so to see what
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: that program is from a fan support standpoint, and the
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: way that the attendance has grown from a competitive standpoint,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: from a facility and resource standpoint, is really incredible, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: this scholarship piece ensures I mean it was a big
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: concern of ours. If we don't find a way to
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: get baseball more scholarships, they will not be able to
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: sustain the trajectory that they're on. And so I would
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: say baseball is one of the biggest winners here for sure.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: The recruiting level that they have gone to is pretty remarkable.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: This just adds to that gives you the resources to
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: now go out and take that to even higher level.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: That's right, And by you know, by giving them these scholarships,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: and they get a significant revenue share too, And and
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: you know they do recruit some West Virginia athletes and
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: some of those kids get some real in IL deals.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: But again, by by giving them these scholarships, we will
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: still try and go out and find in IL deals
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: for some of their key players, but there's less pressure
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: on that because everybody, you know, at least has their
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: full cost of attendance covered with the vast majority of them.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: So back to football, when you're trying to extend that
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: cap and make sure that they're getting the best of
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: the best, maybe that frees up a little more time
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: for you to uh to focus there, And so I
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: don't want people to misread that and say, oh, well,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: they're not gonna We'll continue to work on all of
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: these sports, but it relieves some pressure that you can
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: spend more time and energy on on the football side.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: To go ahead.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: What what was the what was the genesis of this
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: of this concept was this? You looked at what a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: couple other schools had done, or you talk to other
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: ads and people sort of knock this around. What was
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: your moment where you said, you know, we can do this.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: I think just knowing. But honestly, baseball was a big
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: part of the conversation because there were some SEC schools
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: that that added significantly in scholarships to baseball, and there
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: were some big twelve schools that added some you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: and Arizona State added quite a few scholarships.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: You're really sitting around thinking, okay, with baseball, minimim soccer,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: and we care about all those sports, but with those
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: three sports, we have made such progress to become nationally
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: competitive and nationally known and to build a reputation for
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: being highly competitive. We do not want to lose that
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: in this new world. It's important to West Virginians that
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: that we that we reflect the values of the state
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: and that we reflect well on the people of this state.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: And so that really is where some of the conversation went.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: And as we look at three and five year plans,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: it really was, hey, we're going to spend a lot
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: more time and effort trying to piecemeal things together when
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: we could just make this scholarship change and really inject
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: a vast amount of energy into those programs.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to the resolutions and Board
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: of Governors because at the time, it's just like this
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: general resolution like we support athletics and going forward, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: it was just it looked sort of template like, but
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: that was that was gigantic. Yeah, and you, I know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: made a presentation to the board. I don't know if
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you talked to members individually, but had you not gotten that,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: had you not gotten them to say, Okay, we know
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: what you're trying to do, We're with you, I don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: think you would there would have been a lot of
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: questions about this.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I I so I've been asked some,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: including by other athletic directors, which is part of the
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: reason that that resolution had some vagueness to it, Like
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: we feel like we have a really good long term
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: plan to build towards success. And we may talk about
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: football in a minute. I know that we're not where
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: we wanted to be this year, where coach Coach Rodriguez
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: wants to be, but we feel like we have a
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: very good long term plan to ensure the competitiveness of
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: our programs. Now, you're gonna have down years, You're gonna
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: have years where there's injuries, You're gonna have years where
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: there was a recruiting miss. But over the long haul,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: we're we're building a foundation in a program and feel
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: like we have we have a very well thought out plan.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: But but we don't want everybody else in the world
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: and all of our competitors to know our plan. If
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: we had announced, let's just say a year ago, that
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: we were going to add all these scholarships, I'm sure
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Virginia Tech and Pitt would have been saying, you know
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: what West Virginia's getting ready to do, like we better,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: we better get that done. And so you don't want
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: to just like a coach doesn't walk out there at
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: their press conference and reveal here's here's how we're going
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: to try and beat this team. We're not trying to
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: do that either, but I do think when you look
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: at the build up, the multiple presentations that started with
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: just me, then here On comes in, then slam our
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: architects come in and they're doing these presentations. The board
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: takes their resolution, we are working a plan and we've
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: got to retreat coming up this fall with our with
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: our board, and Hereon's coming back in to just lead
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: discussion around Hey, here's what we saw a year ago,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Here's what we're seeing in the market today, do we
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: need to adjust this plan? What what else needs to happen,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: and where do we see the future going? And so
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I would just tell people at home that that there's
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: a there's a reason, uh sometimes that we do the
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: things that we do, but very much there is a
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: plan that we're following.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: You are feeling good about the future of football. What
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: is it that makes you feel good as we get
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: ready to ramp out into year two.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Well, one is I know that we have all of
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: the resources lined up and allocated as as we move
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: into year two, and we we had a good, good
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: competitive pool of resources this last year. But when you
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: hire coaches like they missed that entire high school recruiting cycle, okay,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: and then you look at the portal cycle and they're
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: way behind on it. And and a lot of times
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: by the time, even though you're not supposed to be
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: tampering and all this stuff that wouldn't happen, by the
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: time a kid goes into the portal, a lot of
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: times they kind of have identified the place they're going,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: or the one or two places they're going. So you're behind,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: and then there's incredible pressure on what's left in there.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: They're they're getting bid up supplying the man and the
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: supply is getting lower, especially when you get a late start.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Then you add in that unregulated period where people were
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: just dumping money at certain institutions into the system that's
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: supplying to man. It's going up, and so were The
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: roster that we have has a good amount of money
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: in it, but we did not deploy every dollar that
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: we had to go and and people who we didn't
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: think were difference makers. And so we have some money left,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: some gas left in the tank, money in the match yea,
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: and some gas left in the tank. In this year's
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: REVS share number. We have the full lotment for next
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: year's REUE REV Share number, and we're currently working on
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: secure and above the cap nil deals and when you
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: add those together, I think we will have a highly
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: highly competitive pool of funds to draw from. I think
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Coach Rodriguez and his staff are doing the things that
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: you want a first year coach to do, to set
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: a culture, to set expectations, to build a foundation. You know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: we're still probably going to be looking for a good
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: number of players, more than we would like to this
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: upcome year, but it won't be eighty players. It'll be
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: less than that, and you'll know and have evaluated the
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: players that you retained and that are in your program.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: So I think we'll be in much better shape. You know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: people want to always zoom and look at like what
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: happened with Indiana when when sign he went in there
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: was able to bring in fourteen really good players with
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: them and they had some good players there and low
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: expectations and a schedule that's set up, and he did
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: a heck of a job. But if you look since
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three at first year coaches in the Power
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Conference jobs, those have not been super successful seasons for
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: the most part. But year two there has been a
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: considerable jump. I mean Look at Arizona State, they were
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: three and nine. They went eleven and three. Look at
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Houston last year and where I think they only won
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: four games all year, and they already have won four
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: this year. You know, you just look at year two,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: there's a big jump year one. Everybody's had a struggle.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: So I would just tell people at home, you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I understand it's frustrating. You know, you can see the
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: frustration in our coaches and student athletes as well. Nobody
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: puts more into it than them. You know, I want
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: to win every game, but I feel really good that
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: we are a foundation that is going to allow us
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: to build something really special and to compete at a
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: high level, and that we have the right people in
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: place to do that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: So we've spent the bulk of the time talking about
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: how it affects Olympic sports. That's a good spill over
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: into how this helps football. Men's basketball on a similar
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: boat here, they benefit from this as well. I think
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: you're seeing that on the recruiting trail at this point,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the guys that have signed are coming in for visits.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: That has gone to a new level, and basketball clearly
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: has the resources behind it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of just the scholarships helping them. Men
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: and women's basketball won't see like a big benefit from that,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: but they will see a benefit from what I mentioned earlier,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: and that is being able to take care of these
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: all these Olympic sports with scholarships allows you to focus
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: more on growing those above cap nil opportunities. We don't
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: have our MAC staff and the GBE team out trying
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: to raise money to fund scholarships for people, So now
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: they know we can go out and raise money for
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: hopefully provements at Pushcar Stadium, which will drive revenue and
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: then grow in those above the captain il opportunities, which
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: is gonna be the next differentiator. And so that's something
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: that's going to be really really important as we move
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: forward for for a lot of sports, but particularly football,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: men and women's basketball, for them to have those opportunities.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Do you think that with the way things have now
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: been organized within football, when you go to quote unquote
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: market in this offseason, will you be in the top
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: half among other Big twelve conference schools, will you be
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: in the top five?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Definitely top half, and I would imagine we'll be right
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: there around that seventy fifth percentile, top four or five. Yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: I think that's I think that's where we'll be and
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: and you know, and I'm confident if we're there, that
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: we can put together a team that will be highly competitive.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: You know, if you look at most of the teams
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: in the league that have success, they are pretty old
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: and experienced up front on both sides of the balls,
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: particularly the offensive line. And so you know that is
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: an area where you're gonna you're gonna go into portal
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: try and get a lot better. But you're also you
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: know that there's gonna be a little some high school
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: recruitment that you have to develop our great offensive lineman.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Most people Utah, I think somebody told me across their
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: front five they had an average of thirty six starts
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: at Utah something like that. Yep, And so you know
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: you still need to grow and develop those and so
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: much of a team's offensive success starts right there on
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: the offensive line. But I do think you'll see, you know,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: both in terms of competitiveness in that too deep, but
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: also depth will get a lot better. I mean, the
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: scholarships for football, that's where you're gonna get a lot
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: of help with the scholarships, is the depth you're gonna
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: be able to recruit and retain better from a from
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: a depth standpoint.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Hope Coliseum is now fully engaged. I drove by today
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: and they're taking off the big sign out in front
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of the road, making one bigger.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Huh yeah, it's uh so uh that Marquee is going
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: to get considerably bigger, considerably uh more sthetically pleasing. Not
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: that the old one was bad, but the design on
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: the new one's really nice. You know, they're gon upgrade
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: some signage at the at the primary gate there when
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: you come in to the front of the colisseum, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: then we're gonna be working on update and the lighting
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: where we can get lighting that we can change colors
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: and top of the roof. You know, we're having breast
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: cancer awareness games. We can go pink and you know,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: and it's fourth of July, we can go red, white
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and blue, and uh so, uh that that'll that'll be fine.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I just want to say again how
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: grateful I am to Hope and and their leadership team,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: including Morgan O'Brien, their CEO. That was that's a game
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: changer for us, and it really you know, it sets
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: the table because because we got a very good market
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: deal on that. So it says the table when we
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: go to market with other opportunities for people to see
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: that benchmark and know if they want to co brand
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: with us, you know what what what that what that
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: looks like from a financial commitment standpoint, but also an
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: activation standpoint, how we will try to deploy the activation.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I think Hope was really pleased with how that was
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: rolled out and activated.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: They activated well, yeah, they activated.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Well, you put a band in a small space like
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Clark Mountaineer Club and that was that was high energy,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: very nice. I felt like I was somebody walking through
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: that that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah. You always are like a magician. You
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: always have one more up your sleeve. So you did,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Hope Gas, You're doing this one hundred and forty additional sky.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Why does he do this all the time?
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I ask a magician to reveal their tricks, asking where
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: he over commits you guys on stuff all the time.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: That's his brand, that's his brand. He's gonna try and
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: get you to over commit to something here too.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: You got another one up your sleeve.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: We are are actively working on a couple of major
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: gifts that that I hope we can get announced for
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: at the end of the year, but that I'm confident
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: that we'll will get done, which will allow us to
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: invest in in some facility stuff that will be very exciting.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: By this time next year. Will it be blank blank
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: at Mountaineer Field?
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Is that an offer for Hoppy kerchiefal Mountaineer.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Field if you do it for like eighty eight dollars?
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, but you've built a little You're like a
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: media mogul here. You're like Murdoch of West Virgia.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I'm really Murdo. I'm minor celebrity. The value of that
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: is minimal. But look, I mean it's logical to believe
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: that that naming. I mean, you have the things the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: baseball field is named, that coloseum is named. You would
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: look at mountain your field.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Right potentially yeah, uh, you know again, it would have
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: to be the right partner, somebody that we felt good
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: about sharing our brand with and their right financial investment.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: But that's definitely something that that we would consider. I
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: think Mountaineer Field we would we would desire for that
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: to always be part of that, uh, because I know
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: that that's a name that that's endearing to people. But
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: but it's certainly something that that we we would consider
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: in the right time and place and listen, I got
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I get a lot of feedback on on those things,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: and some people don't, don't, don't love it. But but
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: but I think most people understand that in today's world,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: that expense line is growing, and so you have to
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: grow that revenue line to keep up with it, because
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: you know, if you don't, then then you're you're going
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: to campus and asking them for for even more help,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: or you're which which ends up being a burden to students,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: or you're just jacking up the cost of tickets and
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: concessions and parking, which is a tax on your fans.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: And so it really is something that really helps us
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: to remain competitive without putting any undue burden on any
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: one of our constituents.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I think you're at a perfect time right now. This
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen without everyone being aligned. You've got administration aka Downtown,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: You've got the Board of Governors, and you've got you
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: and the athletic department. Those this all doesn't work unless
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you've got those three entities tight together and you and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of schools don't, right A lot of schools
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: have these battles internally, don't want to do this, don't
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: want to do that, And what happens You just go
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: down so this.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we have people who are invested in a
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: variety of different ways. But I'll just use one example
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: like Russy Hudson, our board chair Diversified Energy, is a
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: major sponsor, one of the biggest sponsors of WU athletics,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: and all before he was on the Board of Governors,
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Rusty would check in with me fairly routinely, just just
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: kind of wanting to know the status of different things
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: in a supportive way, not in anything other than that.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: And so I think you just go down through that
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Board of Governors and we have a group of people
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: who understand the significance and important of athletics. They're fans
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: of the Mountaineers, they are people with deep connections to
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: this state who understand how important the Mountaineer athletic programs
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: are to the people of this state. And so I
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: think that's what you want. I tell colleagues around the
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: country all the time. We have our own set of
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: challenges at West Virginia and for WU Athletics. One that
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: I do not have is to sell people on the
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: importance of the sports teams to our university and to
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: our state, like I've never once had to try to
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: convince people of that. People inherently to get it here.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: To that end, this is probably more of a statement
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: than it is a question, But to that end, it
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: really is remarkable. And listen, I get the health of
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: the football program is vital to the health of the
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: athletic department. I think everybody understands that. But given where
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: this new world was three four five years ago, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: some of the thought of what that would do to
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Olympic sports and the death potentially of Olympic sports and
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: what may be coming down, and the lack of opportunities
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: for women and others in this new world, it's really
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: remarkable what we're talking about today and where this is
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: gone compared to what was thought was happening in that
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: world a couple of years ago, isn't it?
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah? It is, And I would say the threat of
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: that is not gone, right. I mean, we've talked about
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: it on this program before. If you don't get some
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: kind of federal legislation, and you don't go ahead and
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: go down the path of a collective bargaining agreement, you're
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: going to continue to get challenged in court, and you're
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: going to continue to lose more off than the not
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: in a way that at some point to compete in
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: those revenue sports, it's going to come at the expense
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: and sacrifice of Olympic sports. It's just like which is
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: why I always say this is not sustainable. An unrestricted, unregulated,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: free agency at all times market in sports is not
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: sustainable for higher education institutions. But for us to be
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: able to make the progress we have and to hold
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: serve and to double down on on our willingness and
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: ability to compete in those sports at this juncture in
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: time is remarkable, and hopefully it keeps us competitive until
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: we figure out whatever way we're going to go in
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: terms of establishing a system that that is sustainable. But
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I like, at some point we're going to have to
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: either go down the employment road and and and and
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: collectively bargain or figure out another mechanism to do that,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: because what we were doing right now isn't sustainable.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Before you go, by the way, you were totally on
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: when Hoppy asked you to her headsets before we started
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: and you said, my mic Adoqutte is perfect It wasn't
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: off Mike once. It was very.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Very tried to put me in these noxious headsets like.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I was, I apologize on behalf of two of the
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: three guys around, and I apologize for hoppy, try and
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: make it put.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I was just trying to make the show better. But
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Ren was Look, Wren was on micro.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like if I'm five time right now, I don't
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: know if you count the time I came home with
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: President Benson.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: You're in the seat we counted as a seat. Sit
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: once you sit on the side a five time half
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: a scholarship. I want to show you something you've been
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: talking about Golden Blue Enterprises, and I think we did
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: something that was kind of historic. Earlier this week we
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: partnered with the United Way inside touchdown Terrace, with mountaineer coaches,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: with student athletes, with Golden Blue enterprises, with a couple
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: of sponsors, Clear Mountain Bank, Hope Gas was there as well. Hey,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: if you would, Jake show us some of those pictures
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: because Wren was at Big twelve meetings, so that was
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: us in case, you know, ide go ahead flipped through
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: some of those. So we had a big look at
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the crowd. We sold it out two hundred and seventy five,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: two and seventy five people. That was good, and there
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: we are with the folks from the United Way. Then
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: we did so we actually did two groups of five
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: student athletes and then we did some football players. We
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: had Nick Cray and Curtis Jones in there later on.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Then your coaches, Oh they're happy. I mean they're happy.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: They have more scholarships, right, excellent, they have marriage on.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Them to all wear something different so that I'll have
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy five people in the crowded email
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: and asking where they can buy all of that.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Of course Phil was Daniels. Yeah, Phil was there. So
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: this Uh, that young lady there with her arm rais
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: she won one of the live auction items to come
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and listen to sit in during three guys like a
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: studio audience.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: How about that?
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she actually wants a mic for that show.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: She that was she was, Yeah, she's.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Right for a mill be able to do that. We
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: got an next.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: Us asking questions if you wouldn't stop it. There was
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: this at the event here, well this.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Story that's trying to find revenue sources as well.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: We bought we bought the hog bought the hog at
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the Preston County Livestock Show the cake.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: But and then we had we had someone there bidding
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: for us.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, an educated person, you know, I grew up.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Dave Thomas, the president of Clear Mountain Bank, bid it
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: for us.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: He knows how to bid.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so then we bought the pig. But can
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: he judge a hog. That's when I'm asking, well, very good.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: If you want to be a proxy in the next
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: year's buckets, we're happy to employ it as well.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Come in. So then we auctioned off the meat. Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: So Wilbur was his name, b Bless his heart, thirty.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Eight pretty common pig name, I think, yeah it is.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: He wasn't a common pig though, you know why. I
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: gave his life to the United Way of mon and
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Pton Counties. Thirty eight pounds of pork sausage, fourteen pounds
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: of bacon, two hams, pork steaks, I mean, chops everything there.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: He is well, I mean I hate to see him
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: like that, but I mean that was a good memory. Anyway.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: R Ip sold that bad boy. Auction that bad boy
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: off for twenty three hundred dollars.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: I just feel like, like people know where bacon and
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: sauces come up. But when you show the pig, it
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: just a little sad.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Like, Hey, you ever watched Lion King Circle of Life? Baby?
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you gotta go look. It reminds me.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, we appreciate the sacrifice.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'll tell you very much.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: A story my brother's x Y. She was and she's
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: still a great friend of the family. But she was
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: from Tulsa, and we all grew up in the country
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: and so was the city of the city saying, Oklahoma
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: it is, and so you know, she she came in
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: one summer and my grandmother had a cute little cat
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: out in the in the lot, and they went out
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: there and his name, my grandmother named him Boudreau, and
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: like she'd go out there and feed him every day
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: and and so you could pet him, this little calf. Yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: and so fast forward, we came in for Thanksgiving. My
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: grandmother made some chicken fried steak, and and uh, we
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: were all eating it. And homegrown beef really good, unbelievable,
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: it's completely different taste. And and so my sister in
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: law said, you know, Gran, Sue, this this is some
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: of the best beef I've ever had. This is incredible,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: And my gran said, boudrou tastes good, doesn't he? And
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: she just like start crying like she had no idea
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: that what was what was happening there that we were
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: fat out the old calf. Yeah, she gave the whole
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: name during the dinner.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this should be it should be spreads on stats.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Every day there's roughly well fourteenth thousd and pigs are
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: slaughtered every hour in the United States. That equates to
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: about three hundred and thirty six thousand pigs a day.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Meanwhile on the plains of central Oklahoma and Missouri and Texas,
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: and wild hogs are running wild right destroyed. Oh yeah,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: destroying people's property. Like some of those people will hire
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: people to come fly over their property and helicopters just
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: gunning them down like machine gun.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: This program's very aware of that, be very aware of that.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Do you know the story hunt?
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Oh I forgot about that, like when he killed the
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: wild board.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Well, again, there's some question on how that came about.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Thing might have already been dead at the very least
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: it was sleeping. Yes, A lot a lot of questions
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: on the the uh.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Here, I don't know he was his fantasy land over there.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: This is I have some facts. Number one, one shot
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: pig was dead. Number two it was dead. That's why
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: one shot was gig was the pig was And have
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: it on videotape.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Thank you charge that you did it. No, No, it
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: was just standing up a pig or a wild board.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: It was a big board.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: It wasn't charging you. But it was standing and walking around.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: It was an assassination?
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Was it standing and walking?
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: It was?
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Excuse me? You heard me.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: It was laying down.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: You heard me, sleep and counts and honey, you just
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: ask a hunter, where do you have to go? Excuse me?
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Could you walk around a little bit so I can
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: have a tougher shot. Took care of them.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: But you know those things like multiply very rapidly, and
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: they destroyed farm land and crop.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: They crushed, They root through the ground, Texas, they are menaces.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: We're not disputing that, just disputing.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: That Wilbur wasn't like that. He was just up there
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: in Preston County. That young man that raised that he
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: was did a wonderful job.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: You know, we we we take no joy in the
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: of the hog.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: We just I mean, but he helped people. It was
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: solace and he helped his life help people. Great cause
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: we made it raised money for you, not a way
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I'm on in Pressing County anyway, Very thankful. We did
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: really well with and it was great to interwine all
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: of the entities together. And those are the kind of
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: things you're trying to do the Golden Blue get get
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: out there right and.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: John, I'm really glad to see our student athletes doing that.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: And I will just say Don Robinson, who we've we've
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: hired in Golden Blue, great member of the community, understands
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: community engagement, lifelong West Virginia, lifelong mountaineer fan, and is
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: doing really unique and and and great things to to
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: grow our our presence and and and also to grow revenues.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: So we're we're really pleased with what he's doing.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Each of those student athletes that spoke donated to the
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: United Way. Did they really Yes, they did, all all
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: of them, and they were really really good.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: They were great. They were they were great and they
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: and each of them. During Tony's interview, Rin talked about
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: the environment in West Virginia, and you would reference that
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: in the environment West Virginia, how they felt welcomed here.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: All they understand what the university means the rest of
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: the state. So that that's a big part. Man, it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: a big part of being here.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: All right, you've spent enough of your precious time with us.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: We we sincerely appreciate. This is where we make a
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: super interesting segue where I start talking about textual healing.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: The graphic goes up and then as a magician, Ran disappears.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it is here now, it's going. So, all right,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: what are you doing for your off weekend? You doing
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: anything fun?
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: I'm actually flying Friday to uh Texas. So the ad
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: at the University of North Texas a dear friend of mine,
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: and he's receiving and distinguished Alumni award from from Abilen
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Christian University Saturday morning. So I'm gonna go. You know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: you have off from football. Brad knows this. What are
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: you gonna do? I'm gonna go watch South Florida and
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: the University of North Texas one of the best group
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: of five games of the year. Yeah, well that's a
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  Speaker 4: big one.
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  Speaker 1: Florida's good.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is undefeated, aren't.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: They they are? And they got a ranked team coming in.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: I saw a stat they're like, oh and twenty nine
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  Speaker 4: against ranked teams away from home controller or road. They're
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  Speaker 4: so it's a big one for him. They they're expecting
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  Speaker 4: their first ever sellout in their new stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Hat and fry probably back in the day. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: good deal, nice hating fry references.
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  Speaker 1: Ren, thanks so much, all. Let's take this. Watch them disappear, yeat,
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  Speaker 1: That would be nice. So what are you doing on
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  Speaker 1: your off off day? Jarring peppers?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you got a big peppers.
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  Speaker 1: This is the one day of the year Pepper Weekend.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do about between seventy five to one hundred jars
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  Speaker 1: of red hot peppers and sauce.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Now, what do you get the peppers?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes most of the time from Ohia.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: What do you mean you got?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: You go there or they get them. There's a lot
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: of peppers. So they he coordinates it through somebody and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: they say, yeah, we can get them foury reds hots.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Bring them. Yeah, so they'll wash them on Friday.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: It's a two day thing.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: But wash them on Friday and already and then Saturday
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: morning we'll go in there about I don't know, ten
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: twelve guys. Really, it's a day long process. Ten twelve
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: guys cut the peppers, then bring them into the house
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and then they are fried, oil, garlic, basil, and then
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: they are bottled in jars with the sauce, and the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: sauce is also going in there at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: They're exceptional. It's good exceptional.
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  Speaker 2: How hot you said they're hot?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: They're hot, but not stupid hot, not ghost pepper hot.
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  Speaker 1: Not like over at B Dubs where we had the
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  Speaker 1: Blazing Wing challenge and it was the combination of Ghost
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Scorpion and Carolina Reaper. Not that hot. But these are
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  Speaker 1: really really good nice that sounds like fun These are
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  Speaker 1: really really good t actual healing. Not a ton of them,
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  Speaker 1: which kind of makes sense because we were just here
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  Speaker 1: and there's no game to be played. But I want
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  Speaker 1: to start off with this one. Okay, this one's a
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  Speaker 1: special one. As you'll see from my most recent post,
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  Speaker 1: my grandmother, Pauline Fruit Sock from Summersville, passed away at
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and one. Been tough. We had a great connection.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for making life more enjoyable. She was born if
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you want to show this picture here, Jake born in
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty four, Hoppy, one of thirteen kids in Century
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: West Virginia. Her dad came through Ellis Island from Italy.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: He was sixteen years old. She lived through a century
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• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: always will rest easy. Grandma. See on the other side,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and there's our guy, brat Rick Shecher. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine what she what she lived through, I
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  Speaker 2: mean through the changes that she saw.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty four to two twenty five. Credible, just amazing. Texter.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Three guys, any concern about Rich's Rich Rodriguez's unfortunate travel
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: struggles over the years, You guys mentioned how angry he
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: was after a Rutgers game in the early two thousands.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Now this eleven am arrival after BYU. Well, here's the difference.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: So the Rutgers thing was an afternoon game and they
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: didn't make it back to Morgantown until Sunday afternoon. This
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: was old timer. That was an old timer. This was
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: you got on the plane. Lord knows what it was.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly what it was. So the game
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: got over at two in the morning. Here we were
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: on the bar probably like three point thirty. So it
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: was This was much more reduced than the Rutgers thing
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: where they had to go back to the hotel and
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: sleep for the night. That's that was the ultimate.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: After sitting on the plane after six hours.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: For the pilot's timed out and that wasn't good. Texter
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Ty Edwards will be back next week for UCF. He
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: is from Palatka, Florida, two hours from Orlando. He will
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: be in Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Next Texter says this sweet and salty like hoppy signed
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  Speaker 1: Jeff from Sandyville. Ooh have you tried those? Good, Senator?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I have not would receas filled pretzels. I like the
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: way he said hoppy is sweet and salty describes you. Well,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Oh thank you, Hunter Hillsboro, North Carolina. Hey, guys, both
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Khalil Wilkins and Scottie Fox bring young and this season
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: being a throwaway. Do you think that Rich will go
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: for a fifty to fifty split for the games remaining
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: or continue to have Wilkins be the main guy?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you would think he'll go with knowing Rich, I
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: mean Rich, the rich is not afraid to use the hook.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I think he'll go with whoever he feels has had
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: a good week of practice, and if that person is
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: not performing in a way that he thinks he should be,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: the hook will come in, Brad and somebody else will
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: come in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would.
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  Speaker 3: I would think though, if I'm picking one of those,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: I think Wilkins gets the first crack to go ahead
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: and secure the bulk of those snaps. It just he
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: fits what you're trying to do. Saw how many times
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: he ran him yu, Yes, So I would think that
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: would be the primary hope. But yeah, there's no doubt
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: you're going to see both of those guys moving forward.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Again, I said a bunch of times. I mean Rich
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: is very, very atypical when it comes to quarterback usage. Like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the only thing that matters to him is that the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: person who is in there right now is giving him
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: the best chance to win the game. So if Khalil
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Wilkins starts a game and rich is watching and he
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't think that he at that moment is giving him
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the best chance to win the game, he'll pull him.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: He won't even think twice about it. He doesn't care
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: about feelings, he doesn't care about whatever you want to call.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: He's like, my job is to win. Your job is
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: to win. If you're not doing the best you can,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I've got someone else that can win better than you
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: at this moment. Again, it doesn't it's not a permanent,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: it's not a tattoo. It's just at this moment, he'll
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: make a change.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I am curious to see the improvement from Khalil now
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: that he has started a game and got the majority
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: of the snaps. Now to a week off where you
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: can examine that you have more time for mental reps
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: even than the physical. But been in the fire for longer,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: right has adapted that the jump you'd improve the most
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: from week one to week two. So from his first
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: start to his second start. I'm interested to see how
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: how much of a jump that is going on the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: road here to u SEF. But how about him assuming
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: he gets the start next, His first two starts in
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: his career both come on the road. It can't be
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of that that has happened over him.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: But he might. He might go on the field at
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: UCF and go, well, this ain't so bad after being by.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Exactly not as loud, that's for sure. This next text,
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  Speaker 1: this is rue from Buchanan. I am sending this from
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  Speaker 1: not so Happy Valley. I wanted to respond to Hoppy
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  Speaker 1: about everything but the oink in a pig scrapple is
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: as I was told, literally everything in a pig except
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: the oinc I have attached a picture. So just a
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  Speaker 1: little recipe for how you cook this. You slice it
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  Speaker 1: about a quarter inch thick, fried in butter, make a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: couple over easy eggs, and place it on top. It
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: is money a little bye week conversation. By the way,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I'm in Happy Valley for a meeting. Yeah, so you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: do that, and they give you two stints as well,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: right on the side of the plate.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I am a big scrapple guy,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: big pond. First, I've heard of this well where I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: grew up. Yeah, this time of year, we didn't butcher,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: but people would butcher and somebody would drop off some
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: scrapple or they call it. I think the German name
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: is pont hoss. And it's chilled, you slice it, you
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: fry it. It's really good.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Seriously.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: You never you never had it?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Never have bread? Have not? You know me? And you
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: give it a try, you'd eat that.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's sausage like, okay, have you but
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: you take? You take? It's literally what's left after you
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: butcher a right and after everything else you can eat
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: like you just that you don't have to.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say one of the I don't
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: want to hear that part.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Just want to know what all have you ever?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: And you had corn?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: You had corn meal there?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want it with the over easy eggs there
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: like RU was talking about.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, I want it included.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: In that all right, have you eaten hagis no?
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  Speaker 2: Never had have you? No?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I turned it down? Well did you jonate it?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I probably would turn it down too.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe nate it. We were in uh in Scotland
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: and Scotland.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: I mean you shuld probably should give it a try
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: because you're in Scotland.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good, I said, would you.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: You ever had tripe?
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  Speaker 1: Since there's a bye week this week, basketball will be
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  Speaker 1: of the football season. It cannot be said enough that
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  Speaker 1: would come for the rest of the year. I said
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  Speaker 1: will still have their beat Pitts sign out on Chestnut Ridge.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get out there in mass at the Coliseum and
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  Speaker 1: This fall has always beat Pitt and let's go Mountaineers.
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  Speaker 3: That'll be a fun game. Yeah, Pitt likes its team.
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  Speaker 3: I think we will like Ross Hodge's team.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be a good one. We were hanging with the
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  Speaker 2: coach Hodge at the United Way event, and he likes
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  Speaker 2: his team. We had two of the players there, very
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  Speaker 2: impressive young.
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  Speaker 3: Man, Harlan Obioha and Trey Eagle Staff both did a
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  Speaker 3: great job speaking and we were watching a little bit
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  Speaker 3: this week. Harlan makes a difference inside. That's a big dude.
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  Speaker 3: And here's a big fella, a big seven footer in
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they're quite. I mean he's
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  Speaker 2: What is he six nine?
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  Speaker 1: Sid?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big seven plus.
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  Speaker 2: And Carlan can you said you can light it up?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: Trey in the middle right there, six five, six, six
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  Speaker 3: can score at all three levels.
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  Speaker 1: You're not a small guy, Brad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like six two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know they would have trouble on the
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  Speaker 3: post against either one of those two.
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  Speaker 1: Well you had trouble on the post against Rebecca Lobo?
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, well she's pretty good. I did. But they were.
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  Speaker 2: They were just it was nice meeting them and they
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  Speaker 2: were just like mature young men and it just handled
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  Speaker 2: themselves really well. So and Hodge likes he likes these guys.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to practice tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: I heard you were That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: First time. Well, coach was invited me. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: You did.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, not embarrassed, but per usual, you make the
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  Speaker 2: I don't want him to go yeah good enough. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think I sued it over.
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  Speaker 2: I think thank you, thank you Brad cleaning up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was a toughness to clean up.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun. It was a great event.
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  Speaker 3: Community really showed out for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. Props to the props to the
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, two sides.
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  Speaker 2: Are there, House banned Two sides.
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  Speaker 3: United Way did a great job of organizing that. The
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  Speaker 3: committee was fantastic and as we mentioned Golden Blue Enterprises.
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  Speaker 3: That was that was awesome to have those athletes there
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  Speaker 3: from all the sports. It shows again we've said this
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of guys. Football and basketball gets so much
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  Speaker 3: of the attention. There are so many fantastic stories across
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  Speaker 3: all the sports, and there's so many worthwhile just interest
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  Speaker 3: stories from the background of these these players and these athletes.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's fun to get a chance to talk to them.
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  Speaker 1: Or what do you got spreads on stage?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first we we kind of let this out a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. I was going to come in with the
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  Speaker 3: numbers on the pig, the actual numbers. This is pretty remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: Go hit to me, just break it down real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Two pack of ribs, sure, nineteen pork chops, it's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of shops. Three steaks good, three shoulder roasts, thirty
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  Speaker 3: eight pounds of breakfast sausages, big break breakfast sausage. Two
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  Speaker 3: fifteen pound hams, and fourteen pounds of Bacon's all from
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  Speaker 3: the one pig.
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  Speaker 2: That's bless his heart.
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  Speaker 1: He was fully committed.
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  Speaker 2: That's why, and that is one of the reasons that
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  Speaker 2: pigs are a tremendous food resource. Is there there's a
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot there up there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just gonna drip a couple of UCF numbers for
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: us to ruminate on for another week. We'll do it
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: more when we get into the preview episode. But starting
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: to dive into to their efforts a little bit here
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: was this stat really jumped to me. So UCF is
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: fiftieth nationally right now in EPA per play expected points
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: added per play fiftieth nationally.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: They're tenth in the Big Twelve, tenth in the Big Twelve,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: but fiftieth nationally. There's some teams in this league that
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: are having some success. This will be the fourth top
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: fifty offense West Virginia has played to this point in
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: that category EPA per play.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: How many games this will be the seventh?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Can we get to like about ninety nine or one
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: hundred and ten?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: That'd be nice, But you're not going to because the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: next part of that stat is this, there are four
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: more on the schedule. So West Virginia will play eight
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: of the top ten in the Big Twelve in terms
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: of EPA per play this season. So we talked about
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: the schedule lightning up. No Penn stayed on it. But
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: you're still getting some teams that are producing again, those
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: will normalize. We'll see how many finished inside the top
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: fifty by the end of the season. But that one
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: kind of jumped out to me.
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  Speaker 2: But in this league there is There might not be
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: a national champion, but there is balance and quality in
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: the league.
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  Speaker 3: It just backs it up again. There's just not as
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: Ren was talking about the volleyball league in the Big
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: twelve football same way, there's just not an obvious walk in.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, they're not very good. They're not very good.
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  Speaker 3: One last note though on UCF, and this will be
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: something to keep an eye on. Stay on EPA per Rush.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: UCF's defense right now is having some overall success, but
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: they have thus far struggled to stop the run. They're
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: one eighteenth nationally and EPA per rush going against a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: West Virginia offense that's gonna want to do what hop
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: is going to want to run it. So if West
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: Virginia is to go into this game and listen, guys,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: I think there's no doubt and you don't shy away
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: from this. You looked at this schedule and said, all right,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: that's one it's on the road. But you've got a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: UCF program that is also trying to find itself under
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Scott Frost version two point zero. Just like Rich a
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: team that's trying to find its identity. It hasn't played
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: an overly difficult schedule. I'll get into that next week.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: This is one where if you're West Virginia in a
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: great situational spot coming off a bye week when they've
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: got to play another week, you've got to go into
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Orlando feeling like, all right, this is one let's play
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit better and see if you can walk
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  Speaker 3: in there and get out of the bounce house with
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: a win.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Agreed, you can watch West Virginia's next opponent, the Bearcats
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: against Cincinnati this coming Saturday, and get a look see
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  Speaker 1: what they got. They got some speed, I got speed,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: some speed.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll put guys in space. I mean I know
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: you hear that in modern football, they'll put guys in space.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: This West Virginia defense better find a way to find
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: those guys better than it did against BYU because they've
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: got some slippery dudes.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: All right, what's the show? Yeah, it was good. Great
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: to appreciate running.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big that is huge news. Yeah in WU athletics,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: that is that is seminal moments.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: I still and guys, I still feel like we underreported
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: how big it is for baseball because for decades it's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: I get baseball coaches a lot of credit for doing
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: what they've done West Virginia and otherwise just in the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: industry of doing what they do to compete while having
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: eleven point seven scholarships, that's been the national rule, that's
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: been national for that industry and those coaches to do
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: what they've done, what an uphill battle every year and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: to now suddenly jump that, guys to twenty eight, so
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: I know it helps a lot of different programs. That
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  Speaker 3: is absolutely enormous for a baseball program that is really
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  Speaker 3: cooking right now. Anyway, without that, it has to be Yeah,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: should be change.
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  Speaker 1: Coach Stratford gotta be giddy soccer wise, he been, he's
• 1:20:07
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as well, that's great. It's a great move.
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  Speaker 1: All right, three guys, we'll be back next week. We'll
• 1:20:16
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• 1:20:19
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