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This feminist narrative mangles female potential for accountability | HBR Talk 275 · Honey Badger Radio

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Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk two seventy five. Okay, I don't
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is this feminist narrative mangles potential female accountability, and I'm your host, Hannah
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Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson,
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and tonight we're going to learn how feminist women have declared men responsible for women's
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wrong with blogging websites, because what the hell, it doesn't have to be
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that complicated. But anyway, there's my little rant. And now you know,
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I've been publishing for a long time because I used to do paste up
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when I worked at the newspaper in my hometown when I was growing up.
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So anyway, all of that aside, Sorry there's no blog post. There
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is a Patreon post. It has everything the blog post would have had in
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it, and it's just not on the blog. But to the item that
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we're dealing with today, we're we're told, we're told that women have a
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right to control over their own bodies. And I remember from multiple classes beginning
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in elementary health school or school health class to uh, you know, high
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school biology. Going into college, I took anatomy and physiology and every course
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I took the reproductive system is part of the body. Like I learned that
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in every course, from you know, the simple way to learn it to
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the most complex where you had to learn all the different parts and where the
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blood vessels were and what the names of the nerves were and all that shit.
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It's still all part of the body. So if you have control over
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your own body, that includes your reproductive system. That's the argument of feminists
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make when they want to have an abortion. But the whole thing falls apart
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when they start talking about who is responsible for controlling a woman's body. And
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uh, and that's basically what we're going to read about today, right from
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stem to stern. It should be hers to control. Control necessarily requires one
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to take charge, right, that that's responsibility, right, you would think,
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well, yeah, I mean unless a certain doctor Fauci tells you that
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you must the what you need to do with your body, then then it's
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oh my god, yes, give me more, daddy, government, daddy,
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daddy science. Yeah, oh yeah. And and of course you have
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to take measures that absolutely do not help you exercise any control whatsoever. Because
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politics. But uh yeah, and and they're looking at bringing that back and
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and I you know, I've been posting about that a little bit. There
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are some things about those in ninety five masks that people should know before they
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put them on their face. And we should all be holding the producers of
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protective personal protective equipment to account because there are some places where you know,
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you need that to keep dust out of your lungs and uh and it's got
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nasty stuff. There's an article about that. So so there you go.
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This is this this idea of having control over your own body only applies to
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abortion, and it doesn't come with responsibility. So the title of our article,
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this this article, by the way, and the accompanying book are our
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year old. They're not new, well they're they're more than they're more than
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eight months old. This is from like October, so it's almost a year,
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not quite. And this this woman wrote this book. She wrote a
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Twitter thread about men being responsible for pregnancy and not women, and it just
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resonated, resonated with women all over and it trended And now it's the only
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argument feminists make when they're talking about any reproductive issues at all. Whether it's
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custody, child support, parental alienation, paternal surrender doesn't matter. This is
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the argument they turned to. So I thought, you know what, we
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really need to dig into this woman. And I'm not going to read the
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book she wrote based on a stupid Yeah I know, Wait, she wrote
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the book based on a stupid Twitter thread. I should do that. I
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have some Twitter threads I could turn into a book. Yes, but shit,
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I could take these bitches classes for I have Twitter threads that are books.
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Yes, yes you do. You could write a twenty volume encyclopedia from
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your I probably could. And this is like she made money on this.
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Maybe you know if if HBr published it, then HBr could make money on
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us. That'd be kind of cool. But but yeah, so this is
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this is what this is where this argument comes from. Men are one hundred
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percent responsible for unwanted pregnancies. Gabrielle Blair on her viral Twitter tweet turned or
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her viral tweet turned book quote Ejaculate Responsibly. That's the name of the book.
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It's titled Ejaculate Responsibly, A Whole New Way to Think about Abortion,
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And the quote at the top is I'd like to see the conversation shift from
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women's bodies, which is like, the entire conversation about abortion has been about
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women's bodies, and the right is based on discussion of women's bodies. So
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that's interesting to what men can do to prevent pregnancy, said Gabrielle Blair,
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author of Ejaculate Responsibly, a whole new way to think about abortion. Is
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she meaning that she would like to fund some new research into more ways that
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men have to be able to prevent pregnancy? Is she? Is she what
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she likes to invest in vassilegel and all these you know, the other ones
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that are coming in. Is that what she's saying, because hey, I'm
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all for that, Yeah, I would love to see that. Yeah,
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But I gather that's not really what she's saying. It's what she's saying is
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how to make men responsible for the choices that I wasn't brave enough to make
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for myself. Well, and you think about it, women have a shitload
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of choices. Like you start start, women's first choice is when we say
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no, we're backed by law in every country in the world. There are
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rape laws in every country in the world. So every country in the world
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puts the full force of government authority behind our no. It's not true for
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men. In Mike's country, for instance. You know, there's there's uh,
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there's law that criminalizes not respecting a man's no, But there's also policy
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written into domestic violence law that tells the police to not believe men as quickly
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as women. Right. And then at the same time, you know,
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if if a woman does that in the UK, she doesn't get labeled a
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rapist. A man will if he does it, But a woman does not
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face the consequence of being labeled a rapist for refusing to respect a man's no.
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She is She's just labeled a sexual assailant. And in the United States,
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we thought, because feminists told us, and they've been telling us since
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twenty twelve, that they had fixed that problem and that in the United States,
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a woman who raped a man would be labeled a rapist under rape law.
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But last year the Ohio Supreme Court said no. So, and I'm
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still working on the the letter that I'm sending to my representatives in regard to
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that, but I think it's pretty much ready to go. I haven't had
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any further input, but I also haven't contacted the two organizations that I would
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like to have somebody read it over from and just double check and make sure
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I haven't left anything out or set any thing wrong. So that's what happens
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when you get sick as a dog. I was sick as a dog for
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like a whole month and am now getting back on the horse. But yeah,
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here's here's her argument, or here's her interview. I guess, and
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this is again, this is miss magazine. Just a reminder, this is
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the magazine that published the researcher who determined that sexual violence against men is not
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as big of a deal as sexual violence against women. Right, Oh,
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so we get no, We get a bigger no than men get. We
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get more types of birth control if we say yes, And of course we're
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allowed to be picky. And if we're picky, our pickiness is legitimized in
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media to the degree that if we're criticized for it by anybody, they get
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called extremists. If men are pinky, they get shamed for it. I
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remember, there's no form of birth control available to men unilaterally, unless you
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count a vasectomy as birth control. But it's not. It's well, it's
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just switching the whole tube system off, right, It's control is like being
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able to easily switch it on and off like you can with the pill.
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It's not as easily reversible as feminists like to say either, and condoms are
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not unilateral, hence the use of the word unilateral. There's nothing stopping a
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woman from demanding that a man wears a condom unless he's going to straight up
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rape her. And yeah, I think we're all against that. I think
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we can all lock arms and go yeah, don't right, Yeah, pretty
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much everybody accept rapists agrees with us on that. But oh, the UK
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government when it comes to women women raping men, they don't even get labeled
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sexual assailants, by the way, unless the man has a really good lawyer.
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Yeah, they just they just get labeled as you know, nice.
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Yeah. Well, the tough part is, you know, if if sex
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happens and the woman says I didn't consent, that gets defined as rape.
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If sex happens and the man says I didn't consent, people start questioning,
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are you just trying to get out of parenthood? Are you just mad at
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her? What? What? What is the reason that you didn't? Are
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you gay? You know? Which? What if he is? What?
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What if he is? Right? Is it. Does it only become rape
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if a woman rapes a gay man because he's clearly not gonna want it.
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But but yeah, I mean, there's noticed that you can't get hard unless
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you're sexually arouse. Whoever heard of a nervous erection? Yeah, or or
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even just the fact that it's an autonomic reaction, not a or response,
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not a conscious one. But but yeah, you know you can. Your
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brain can interfere with it, but not as as well as you'd like.
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You don't have control, necessarily a whole lot of control, or your brain
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interfering with it so much as it can be a problem your brain interfering with
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it. But but yeah, all of that, all of that advantages women
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in terms of reproductive control. We have every advantage to prevent conception in the
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first place. And you know, in in addition, when you talk about
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when we talk about birth control, we're gonna we're gonna really briefly, I'm
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not gonna make the claim that Pearl Davis makes about women having forty some types
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of birth control, because I think she's talking different brand names. But there's
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at least eleven, right, there are multiple barrier methods. There are multiple
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types or ways to use furmi side. And then there are different hormonal methods.
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And then I want to make sure I say this right, I U
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D and true uterine devices. I always want to call them I e EDS,
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which would prevent but that could be an explosive issue. But in any
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case, you know, we have we have so many different ways to block
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semen from meeting up with the egg still alive. Right. And then then
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of course there's also like women can can engage in oral women can engage in
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anal those those don't get you pregnant, Like if you get pregnant from anal
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sex, there is a problem. Also, your kids probably gonna be a
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little shit. Uh. But in any case, all that, all that
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going into this tells me that that they want to ignore all of it,
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right, they want to ignore. You can use You could be on the
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pill and still use spermicide. You can be on the pill and still use
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a barrier method. You can be on the pill, use a barrier method
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and spermicide. Or instead of the pill, you can take the shot.
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You can take an implant. There's an implant that goes in your arm.
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There's a ring that goes around your cervix, both of those are hormonal.
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You could have an IUD that that it isn't hormonal and use hormonal birth control
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and use spermicide and a barrier, and you could still say I'm still not
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doing this if you don't use a condom. So a woman can insist on
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up to like five different types of birth control methods. And if you can
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say you know, well, each one of those is only ninety five to
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ninety nine percent effective, well, yeah it has. It has a five
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percent chance at best of getting through the first one, all right, And
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if it gets through the first one, then it only has a five percent
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chance of getting through the second one. If you give them all ninety five
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percent effectiveness, some of them are more, right, So if you take
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that, that's five percent of five percent, and then each barrier that you
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add to pregnancy makes it that much harder for it to get through until you
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get to the point where the statistical likelihood of pregnancy becomes negligible. And the
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last likelihood is you're only fertile for part of the month. So even if
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you're gambling and you're not paying attention, you only have a twenty percent chance
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of conceiving without birth control. So it's ludicrous for women to say they can't
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present pregnancy, right, It's it's just absolutely ludicrous. But this is the
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argument as the political landscape continues to regress, and I like that they just
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automatically say it's regressing. It's time to rethink how we talk about abortion.
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Gabrielle Blair, a Mormon woman. I had to read that a couple of
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times honestly before I realized it was about her religion and not her Yeah,
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it's not her mental capacity, and it says more money. But sometimes it's
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just fun to lose your letters. A Mormon, contrary, contrary to populability.
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Not all Mormons and Mooroms. No, but but but I'll all abortion
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advocates are not. Really, but they have been fooled, they've been conned.
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And mother of six, so she does know how pregnancy happens. She
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does know how a woman's body works. At least, I argues that the
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onus of preventing unwanted pregnancies should fall on those who caused them. Men,
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damn it, Oh wow, God damn it, God damn it, God
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damn it. It's I mean, it's it's absurd on its face, right,
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because we all know how the sex thing works, right, and you
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all know how it works. Yes, the knock up Ferry goes down the
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street and watch you with his magic magic wand yeah, no pregnancy right in
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the booder. This this is oh my god, it hurts. It hurts
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me. Now, I think maybe this should be a good time to tell
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the story that I have, is Lauren story time? Good? So just
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yesterday I was talking to a co worker. Now, he's maybe twenty two,
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twenty three, young kid, right, And at first my first impression
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of him was that he's just, oh, he's just a fuck around.
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He doesn't really want to work. He's not really he's not really here.
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He just wants a paycheck. He's not from his series about life, YadA
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YadA. But then I had more conversations with him, and he's like,
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yeah, you know, I got this girl blah blah blah, but she
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doesn't want to settle down. She doesn't know if I'm right for her.
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And so fast forward and now she's gone. He's like, yeah, you
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know, I'm I'm really going going back to church, and you know,
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I'm not dealing with her anymore, and I really want to have like a
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family I want to get my life together and YadA YadA, all right,
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fast forward, took today or yesterday? He comes and tells me. He
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goes, guess what I said. What He goes, I'm going to Austin
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to see a girl. I said, oh shit, here we go,
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here we go. Mister I want to focus on my life and settle down.
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Now here he is chasing some more tale. I'm going to Austin's to
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see this girl. Nah. I really like her. I trust her.
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You know, she knows that I'm up here and she's down there and I'm
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doing her thing, and she's doing her things, so she doesn't really want
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like a clingy thing. I said, you better wrap it up. He
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goes, nah, but see, and here comes the excna. But it
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just feels good, right, But I trust her all shit, famous last
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words, famous last words. And I just laid into him. I said,
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listen, I don't care how much you trust her. Women lie.
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Nah, but she she got that alarm on her phone everything that tells her
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every day that she should take her birth control. Okay, but dude,
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are you watching her take it? Oh? You got a point? Yes,
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yes, so you know in a sense, I will I will concede
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to the fact that there are men out there that are irresponsible with their own
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pro creation. Right, they're just irresponsible with this firm. I told him
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you every time you fuck her, that's there's a billion blank checks you're just
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sending out right, Like, why would you do that when you're at this
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stage in your life. You're not anywhere near settled, you know what I
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mean. You don't have a career, you're still in school. Why would
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you go and do that? I'm nah, you're right, you're right,
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Okay, all right, I know I'm right, but y'all don't listen to
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me. Yeah, that's that's the This is the this is the thing.
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You know, we we tell women, damn if you don't want to,
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U be complaining and using the term deadbeat dad, which I don't necessarily consider
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to be legitimate. Stop fucking guys that you would call a deadbeat right,
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Stop sucking guys that are careless. Well, the same thing can be true
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to two guys. You know, don't don't just go out there and settle
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for missus right now, right, miss right now, right, miss right
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now has been miss right now for shipload of other guys. She's probably carrying
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something, and if you're not careful with her, she's going to be carrying
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something else. And that's that's a situation that you want to avoid because again,
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our yes has the full backing of federal law, of national law in
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most countries. Most countries have a child support system because the government likes to
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protect its own coffers, and most first world countries at least have a welfare
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system, and for some reason, politicians think that making men pay for women's
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stupid choices helps to protect their coffers from their welfare system. All it really
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does is justify more government agencies, and it costs more money than it brings
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in. But that's a whole another story there. In the meantime, one
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of the reasons, at least in the United States, one of the reasons
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that guys often don't want to use condoms is because their parents made the stupid
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decision to cut off the skin that would glide, you know, back and
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forth, that would allow them to glide and actually have sensation even with a
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condom on. And so it's unfortunate. Women blame men for not wearing condoms.
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Women blame men for not wanting to wear condoms, but women are usually
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the ones, the ones that signed the consent form at the hospital to cut
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off the skin. That would help a guy not give a shit about the
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difference between the condom and not having a condom. So, so, ladies,
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don't cut your babies. If you want them to be careful, and
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you want your grand babies to be borne into an economically and socially sound situation
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instead of a single mother home, that's one more reason to not cut your
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babies. Shouldn't cut him anyway, because for Fox's sake, it's it's their
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body right. You want your body, your choice, give him his body,
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his choice. But but yeah, as guys, it's it's a rotten
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deal. But you know, advice officially for me is don't ever trust a
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woman to tell you that she's on birth control. Don't trust her to tell
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you that she's not infected with anything. For for one thing, she might
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not know, and for another thing, she's certainly not going to want to
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tell you if she wants you to get into her pants. So no,
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you know, don't don't expose yourself like that. Don't take that risk.
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That's where that's where a lot of testicular and penal cancers come from from from
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HPV, and even if you're vaccinated, there are strains that can get through.
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And it's also where a lot of throat cancer comes from. So dental
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dams are a thing too. That's that's important. But she goes on,
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She goes on with her bullshit here in her new book, Ejaculate Responsibly,
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a whole new way to think about abortion, which is not new anymore because
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been months. Well, no, it's it's it's well, it's it's the
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same conclusion, but from a completely different direction that you would that you would
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get from from the Catholic Church, like that Monty Python song, every sperm
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is great. If a sperm gets wasted, God gets quite irate. In
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the Catholic faith, no sperm can land anywhere but inside a woman. Where
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is this is the you can't pot sperm isn't a woman gnosticism, folks.
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It's just like religion, but from completely the other direction. Yep and and
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Blair has reframed the conversation about sex, contraception, and abortion in twenty eight
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succinct arguments that we are supposed to get excited about. The book is based
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on Blair's twenty eighteen viral tweet men are one hundred percent responsible for unwanted pregnancies.
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Blair posits that men should share contraceptive responsibility and become active participants in conversations
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around birth control. Well then you just you just went back on what you
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said. Either they're one hundred percent responsible or they should share shit shit share.
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Yeah, So I'm gonna look at the tweet if it's still up,
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because that's that's the argument. Let's see if it's hopefully I'm not blocked.
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Oh I'm not logged in. Let's see if it lets me. Yeah,
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this might be. It's not gonna show the whole thing. What even happens
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when men try to enter the conversation. Women shit all over everything. They
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say, Oh you're a man, you shouldn't have an opinion. We'll get
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the fuck out of here. Then you don't really want to hear. You
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don't want to share responsibility. You just want to focus the blame on men.
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Just be fucking honest. What he wants. What she wants is to
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argue that women are not responsible for pregnancy. Unlike period. She wants to
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argue that because women are not, in her opinion, responsible for pregnancy,
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then it's a they can be considered victims of it, and abortion should be
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legal because women are victims of their own choices that they're not responsible for.
31:21
Like, that's the whole point of this article. It adds as has actually
31:26
nothing to do with men. It's all about but the feminists do blame men
31:32
for anti abortion arguments, even though most of us who are anti abortion are
31:38
women. The majority of us who are anti abortion are women. Okay,
31:41
so you have to be as signed in now if somebody makes a Twitter thread,
31:45
you now have to be signed into Twitter to see it. So she
31:52
says, I'm a mother of six and a Mormon. I have a good
31:56
understanding of arguments surrounding abortion, religious and otherwise. I've been listening to men
32:04
grandstand about women's reproductive rights, and I'm convinced men actually have zero interest in
32:09
stopping abortion. Here's why. And she goes on to say, if you
32:15
want to stop abortion, you need to prevent unwanted pregnancies, and men are
32:19
a hundred percent responsible for unwanted pregnancies. No, for real, they are.
32:25
Perhaps you are thinking it takes two, and yes, it does take
32:30
two for intentional pregnancies. So here's here's where she's gonna make the argument that
32:37
if you gamble, you didn't consent to lose the gamble. Oh wow,
32:45
But all unwanted pregnancies are caused by the irresponsible ejaculations of men. Period.
32:52
Don't believe me. Let me walk you through it. Let's start with us.
32:55
Women can only get pregnant about two days each month. That's true,
33:00
and that's for a limited number of years. That's also true. Women are
33:06
aware of this, but women don't necessarily pay attention to which days those are.
33:13
That's one area of responsibility. It's your body. You should know what
33:16
it's doing. Right. She doesn't argue that, So she argues that makes
33:22
twenty four days a year a woman might get pregnant, but men can cause
33:27
pregnancy three hundred and sixty five days a year. There's her first flaw.
33:32
Not if they're having sex with a woman who can't get pregnant that day,
33:37
right, And I don't know, I kind of want to delve into that
33:44
a little bit deeper. I know, I would think from what I've always
33:47
been taught, that you have two days of optimal time for ovulation, right,
33:55
But I've been to I've always heard you can if you ovulate and you're
34:02
on your period, then you can still get pregnant. I don't know how
34:06
the two happen at the same time, but I don't. I don't know,
34:10
I don't. Yeah. So, but there's the thing. Yeah,
34:15
the first thing she's got wrong is it's you're right, it's two days of
34:19
optimal chance, and women who have fertility issues it's two days of likelihood.
34:24
Right. But when you ovulate, your your ovum lives, if I remember,
34:32
right, for about five days right before before you you know, you
34:38
drop the egg out and it's gone. It it starts out, has to
34:44
go through the fallopian tube before it hits the uterus, and often fertility happens,
34:51
fertilization happens in the fallopian tube, and an implantation takes place in the
34:55
uterus. Sometimes it goes wrong and takes place in the fallopian tube, and
35:01
that's a pregnancy that it's fair to terminate because it's never going to survive.
35:07
The baby cannot survive that. So all you're deciding with an abortion at that
35:12
point is whether the baby's death is going to take the mother along with it.
35:16
Right. So there's there's that, But semen also has the possibility of
35:25
living for more than a short period of time, and so you actually have
35:31
five or six day period of time during which you actually can get pregnant after
35:40
ovulation, and I think it's like forty eight hours for semen, right,
35:46
Yeah, And the environment that you create in your uterus depending on what you
35:51
eat. This is something like women have all these these tricks and tips for
35:54
determining the sex of their child based on this knowledge. So it's not like
36:00
women don't know this, right, It's it's just that feminists and that that
36:09
includes right wing feminists like this one, like to pretend that this information isn't
36:15
out there. Women will tell you if you want to have if you want
36:19
to have a boy, eat things that are more likely to make the environment
36:23
inside your uterus less less acidic, because the semen that are going to the
36:31
sperm that are going to make your child male swim faster. But if you
36:37
want to have a girl, make it acidic in there. Eat hot peppers,
36:42
eat lemons and oranges and grapefruits and all that kind of shit, because
36:47
it'll it'll make it more acidic. It'll kill off the sperm that are gonna
36:52
make a boy and the girl's sperm apparently have thicker mucous membranes that cover them
36:59
or whatever, and they survive that environment slightly longer. To me, I'm
37:05
not sure if any of that actually works. Didn't try it about it.
37:10
It's yeah, it sounds like bullshit. It's old wives tales. But it
37:15
still stems from knowing that it takes time for spurn to get to the egg,
37:21
and that it takes time for eggs to get down the fallopian tubes into
37:24
the uterus, and that there is more than just the two day period where
37:30
you know, those are those those two days are optimum least risk of an
37:34
ectopic pregnancy, least risk of failure to fertilize altogether, fertilizing too late to
37:40
implant, things like that. So there you go, like, and this
37:46
if you want a citation for that, that idea that the wives tale.
37:52
The wives in my family have said that for generations, including the midwives.
37:59
But but like I said, it's it's untested. In my case, I
38:04
really didn't didn't do anything to try to determine the sex of the baby.
38:12
So but she goes on twenty four days a year that a woman might get
38:15
pregnant, Well, that's not true about sixty days actually, and it doesn't
38:23
absolve her of responsibility for the situation. It actually gives her information she can
38:30
use to manage the situation. And there is actually a method of birth control.
38:36
Most people make jokes about it, but it's a real thing called the
38:40
rhythm method, where you abstain during that ideal time to get pregnant, and
38:47
you only have sex outside of that ideal time to get pregnant. And I
38:52
wouldn't put my faith in it, but you can always add that to your
38:59
spectra. I'm of birth control. If you are using barrier methods and other
39:02
things, you could say, all right, well, this week I'm more
39:06
fertile. We're gonna watch movies instead of doing the deed. You know,
39:09
We're go add dancing or use our energy some other way. There you go,
39:15
much much like happens during the period of release. I'm not sure what
39:22
the polite thing to call it is. You extend it forward a couple of
39:23
days because because the fertility days come just before the period days, right at
39:31
that wrong? Ye? No, that's that's about right. That's about right.
39:35
You can for about a week before your period and a few days into
39:39
your period, you're at risk you consider yourself at risk because you don't exactly
39:45
know when you've ovulated. So there is that, But that's her first argument.
39:53
She goes on, if you're a man who ejaculates multiple times a day,
39:58
you could cause multiple pregnancies. Ay this again, she's talking about this
40:06
like men are just walking down the street ejaculating and women come along and oh
40:09
shit, oops, I fell in a puddle of pregnancy. What was that
40:13
doing in the middle of the sidewalk. Stop ejaculating your responsibly men. You
40:17
know there used to be laws about no spinning on the sidewalk, right,
40:22
Come on, ladies, spect your eyes. So we went hiking last week
40:34
and I was doing just fine and then put them all of a sudden,
40:37
out of the bushes jumps this horrific, giant, one eyed trouser snake.
40:45
Anyway, I think, give me shooting shooting jizz at him like the fucking
40:52
super soakers of those water guns. Jez. When I was a kid,
40:59
we used to have square gun fights. That don't don't put that image in
41:01
my head, man. Those were like a neighborhood wide thing. We'd have
41:04
four blocks of kids running around, peeking around corners and shooting with our little
41:08
squirt guns. Like, that's what it's like in her mind, except they're
41:15
all filled with cheese. It's not like, you know, when a guy's
41:19
at home and and and doing, isn't thing in his own room without anybody
41:24
else pregnant or at present present that he uh you know, shoots off and
41:30
boom. They get out their little map. Oh, where's the girlfriend's house,
41:34
let's go care. You know, No, she was there for the
41:39
conception. Every single time conception doesn't happen without both sexes pregnant. That means
41:46
the woman is involved, and she was active in the creation of the baby.
41:54
So this is there we go in theory, she says a man could
41:58
cause a thousand plus wanted pregnancies in just one year. Oh my gosh,
42:05
stop running around and hitting women with your magic dicks. Guys, it's dangerous.
42:12
So she goes on it. Sure is when you stick that made you
42:17
find you find the wrong one man, you will have a stalker for life.
42:22
Jesus right there, there is that issue as well. The form you
42:27
know forget STIs forget pregnancy. There is the woman who who doesn't let go
42:32
even after it's obvious the relationship is not going to work out, she says,
42:39
And though their sperm gets crappier as they age, by the way,
42:44
that happens with your eggs too, lady, right, you pass the good
42:49
ones first. Men can cause unwanted pregnancies from puberty till death. Well,
42:54
technically that's not true, simply because as a man gets older, he,
43:01
like a woman who gets older, starts to deteriorate and at some point may
43:06
become helpless. And most of the men that I took care of in nursing
43:12
homes were in some way or another wounded, like physically, not just psychologically,
43:22
but physically. They had bad backs, they had there was there was
43:25
a double amputee there. You know, I've had I've taken care of guys
43:31
that have had strokes. I've taken care of guys that have had heart attacks
43:35
that barely could walk down the hallway by themselves. I haven't taken care of
43:42
in any nurse at home where I worked. I haven't taken care of any
43:45
man that was not more helpless than at least most of the women that were
43:52
that were living there. So it's bullshit there too, because that's one where
43:57
like again I'm not counting, like when you say unwanted pregnancy. If you
44:06
ordered a baby and one was delivered to your uterus, you don't get to
44:10
say no, you know, there's no takebacks here. Okay, we don't
44:15
get to say that you didn't order that. Yeah, you can't return it
44:19
to Amazon, like and if it if Like you said, it takes two
44:22
to to tangle. Only when it comes to a pregnancy, you're separating that
44:28
from unwanted The only men men percent responsible for unwanted pregnancies. It's only the
44:36
unwanted thing that you're pointing to. That. But if both of you don't
44:40
want it, then you're both responsible for the factor of unwantedness. Exactly if
44:46
if you want to so, just want a baby, that's that's a solution.
44:52
Just want it. You can. You can make yourself want something,
44:54
can't you. But apparently it's only men who actively unwant exactly. Yep,
45:01
And that's that's that's the situation. Uh. Women, women pretty much don't
45:09
have any agency according to these people. Women, you can't want something if
45:15
you don't have agency, right, So, all babies technically are unwanted if
45:22
you're if you ask a feminist, but unless unless, unless she wants the
45:27
baby. Yeah, then it's a wanted pregnancy, and then suddenly she has
45:31
the agency to want it. Right, it's it's only her say that matters
45:36
whether or not it's wanted or unwanted pregnancy, because there's been plenty of men
45:42
who did not want the mother to go through with the abortion, and she
45:45
just went right along and did whatever she wanted to do. Yep. You
45:50
know, so let's not put all the onus on men in regards to unwanted
45:57
pregnancies and if if unwanted pregnancies or well, I'm not going to go down
46:02
that road because I was gonna talk about like financial abortions, yeah, for
46:07
men, but that's not really the case in this situation because anyway, let's
46:17
move on. Yeah, well to talk about financial abortion. You know,
46:22
Like my bottom line on that is this, do women have something that is
46:27
an equivalent? The answer is yes, and they make the decision for both
46:30
the mother and the father. They don't just make the decision for themselves.
46:36
Safe haven abandonment. If they don't give the if they don't give any clues
46:42
to the people that are receiving the baby at a safe haven abandonment center,
46:45
they don't get arrested for that they don't get told they can't drop the baby
46:49
off. They're still allowed to do the abandonment. Those people are supposed to
46:52
try to get her to say who the dad is, but she didn't have
46:55
to, right and they're supposed to try to find the dad, but that
47:01
kind of relies on having clues. Yeah, yeah, so somebody he makes
47:08
the decision. If paternal surrender just makes the decision for the dad, it
47:15
leaves the decision open so that the mother can make her choice independently of his.
47:21
She's not required to go along with his choice. She can retain custody
47:23
if she wants to, she just can't drag him along with her, whereas
47:30
safe haven abandonment does make the decision for both the mother and the father.
47:35
The father can't do it if you know, on his own, if she
47:37
has custody, it's kidnapping. And if she does it, she's she's not
47:43
in any trouble even if she doesn't say who he is. So I call
47:47
bullshit on the whole complaint about paternal surrender thing until safe haven abandment abandonment goes
47:52
away. Yeah, I'm just gonna say I saw somebody in one of your
47:58
threads who was arguing that at well, if a woman gives up a child
48:04
at a safe abandonment, well she gives up the rights for both of them,
48:07
and so well, you know that's that's that's on that should be on
48:10
it. It's his responsibility too. He has no choice in the situation,
48:15
you idiot. It's it's completely her choice. How can you argue that he
48:21
had any say in it when she can do it freely of her own will.
48:25
Yeah, and and and then you also have you know, abortion,
48:30
which again the father gets no saying it. There's a lot of people that
48:35
are like, well, you shouldn't oppose abortion because it's an advantage for men.
48:37
Wow, how you have zero control over it? Right? And I
48:43
will say this. Feminists argue that victims of rape who are female who get
48:51
pregnant are a reason why abortion needs to be accessible to women who are not
48:58
victims of rape, that we shouldn't even be allowed to ask. All women
49:00
should have access to abortion so that the utterly important factor of rape victims being
49:08
able to abort abort if they get pregnant is preserved without them having to go
49:15
through any uncomfortable questioning and all that stuff. All right, that's fine,
49:19
you you want to claim that I disagree with that argument, but let's let's
49:23
take that and apply that logic to female perpetrated rape. All right. If
49:32
you are a person who argues that abortion should be unrestricted so that the less
49:42
than two percent of abortions done annually on babies of rape victims can be done
49:52
without any embarrassment, then you should accept that if a woman rapes a male
50:00
victim and becomes pregnant, he should have the right to force her to abort
50:05
if he does not want the child to be born. And I don't think
50:09
anyone's in favor of that except some really fucked up people on probably both sides
50:15
of the aisle, extreme sides of the aisle. Ye, But it is
50:19
it is the logical end of that right that all right. You know,
50:23
he doesn't have any say in the matter if she wants to abort, and
50:29
she has the right to abort because the child has been inflicted on her against
50:32
her will. Well, in a pregnancy that occurs from raping a male victim,
50:42
he's had the child inflicted on him, and the state says he owes
50:46
child support to whoever has custody of that child if he is not the one
50:52
who gets custody of that child. So if the child goes into foster care,
50:54
he has to pay foster care child support. If the rapist retains custody,
51:00
he has to pay child support to his rapist. It is as unfair
51:07
as making a woman to carry a term before choosing whether or not to give
51:10
the baby up for adoption. To make a man pay child support for a
51:15
child he didn't want to conceive and didn't choose to risk conceiving, right,
51:21
So obviously the solution is if abortion is nothing, if it's no big deal,
51:27
you can't argue bodily autonomy for a rapist, right, a rapist that
51:31
forced the child, the conception of the child on the father, like,
51:37
you can't argue that it's a bodily autonomy issue to make her undo that,
51:43
especially if you're, you know, arguing that it's not a child until she
51:50
determines it's a child's status by giving birth, you just forbid her from giving
51:55
birth. You are not allowed to give birth to a child by somebody you're
52:00
raped without his consent. This is where it's helpful that we have two different,
52:04
two different definitions of the word labor. You can't force a woman to
52:07
go through labor for it can be up to a couple of days. How
52:13
much labor does a man have to go through for eighteen years of child support?
52:16
It's quite a lot. It's a bit more than it's a bit more
52:19
than a couple of days. Yep. So yeah, it's so thank on
52:22
that one. Abortion advocates and and women who blame men for pregnancy. That's
52:29
that's a that's a big question right there. Whose fault is it when she
52:34
rapes him unquestionably when she uses a gun, or she uses drugs to make
52:39
him unaware of what's going on, which can happen without interfering with his ability
52:44
to perform right, or she uses him being under the age of majority,
52:52
where he's incapable of appraising his actions sufficiently and cannot legally consent right. You
52:59
know, how does how does that work? How does that make him responsible?
53:04
So she goes on with us? What about birth control? If a
53:07
woman doesn't want to risk and unwanted pregnancy, why wouldn't she just use birth
53:12
control? If a woman can manage to figure out how to get an abortion,
53:15
surely she can get birth control, right, great questions. Modern birth
53:22
control is probably the greatest invention of the last century, and I am very
53:24
grateful for it. Well, yeah, you should thank men for that,
53:29
Gabrielle. The side effects for many women are ridiculously harmful. So now she's
53:34
going to talk about birth control as if only hormonal birth control exists, birth
53:42
control pills specifically so ridiculous that when an oral contraception for men was created it
53:51
wasn't approved. Actually, the side effects of the oral contraceptive for men that
53:59
was under investigation that wasn't approved were not as minor as the side effects that
54:07
women experience from hormonal birth control. I stroke is rare, it happens,
54:14
but there was quite a significant level of dysfunction in that that study. It
54:22
wasn't. It was causing infertility, permanent infertility and everything. It was really
54:27
bad, and it wasn't. The side effects were not rare like that.
54:34
So and yeah, she she goes into the list being a third as long
54:39
as the known side effects for women's oral complication contraception. So I'm gonna address
54:45
that too, right, So, if you had a list of things that
54:49
somebody did to you, and I say, you know, my boss is
54:53
worse than your boss, right, My boss doesn't doesn't to include me in
55:01
the happy birthday wishes that she sends around every year to all the employees on
55:07
their birthdays. She forgets mine every year. Right as this, I'm not
55:10
talking about my real boss. That that doesn't happen in real life. But
55:14
let's say that's that's one of my complaints, right, say I have a
55:15
complaint that my boss doesn't approve my time off requests but approves other people's time
55:22
off requests. Those are shitty things, right, My boss talks down to
55:24
me, pretty shitty. You know. My boss gives me, gives me
55:30
the crap jobs, the crap tasks, and saves the easy ones for her
55:35
favorite employee. Got a bunch of maybe I could have fifty different complaints that
55:39
are on that level if we get a If I'm work in retail, my
55:43
boss makes me deal with the angry customers and gives the nice customers to the
55:47
other cashier if we have to, if we have to decide on the temperature
55:53
the store is going to be, and I don't get a say in it
55:55
because my boss doesn't think I should, you know, or anything like that.
56:00
Little things like that, and maybe one complaint of you know, I
56:05
have been scheduled to work outside my stated hours of availability. Something more serious.
56:10
My boss is threatening to fire me because I won't take time from my
56:14
other job to work at this job, you know, something like that.
56:16
So you got one very serious complaint. And then you know my boss is
56:21
worse than worse than your boss, because I got five hundred little complaints like
56:24
that, right, And you say, well, my boss locked the office
56:29
door and raped me. Well, you only have one complaint. My boss
56:34
is obviously worse. I have five hundred complaints and you only have one complaint.
56:38
Nobody's going to buy that. That's bullshit. But but that's what this
56:45
woman is doing with birkentroll. Right. I've had I've been on the pill.
56:51
It has side effects. They suck. None of them are that bad
56:53
for the overwhelming majority of women. My mom had worse side effects when she
57:00
was on it than I I did, and she warned me against using it
57:04
because of those side effects. But I didn't have those problems, and I
57:07
used I used the pill for a while, and I used the shot for
57:10
a while and I was fine. Right, But you know the side effects
57:17
of the male birth control. Some of those side effects included serious, serious
57:24
health conditions, and where they say, well, you know, less than
57:29
two percent of women who take hormonal birth control have have a risk of blood
57:37
clotting and strokes. It's it was a much higher percentage for men. It
57:43
was not a safe gamble, you know, And there weren't ways to be
57:47
like, well, you know, you have this historical condition, health condition
57:51
in your family, you probably shouldn't use these. It was it was kind
57:57
of random with men. So it's it's bull ship for her to make that
58:00
argument. But let's say birth control pills, all hormonal birth control is bad.
58:07
All right, Imagine we take hormonal birth control off the table. Women
58:14
still have female condoms, still have diaphragms, still have contraceptive gel, contraceptive
58:21
foam, contraceptive film which is kind of a barrier that you attach it to
58:25
your cervix, and then they also have IUDs that are not hormonal. Right,
58:35
so you have all of those things. You still can refuse to consent
58:37
without the use of a condom, and you can still do oral or anal
58:44
instead of vaginal, like you don't necessarily have to have vaginal penetration for sex.
58:51
Like women know that there's a whole series of things you can do there,
58:55
you can still use at least three different types of birth control, including
59:00
him using a condom, and never change your hormonal balance. So there's that.
59:10
She says. There's a lot to be unpacked and just in that story.
59:15
But I'll simply point out in case you didn't know, that, as
59:19
a society, we really don't mind if women suffer mentally or physically as long
59:22
as it makes things easier for men. I'm going to repeat her saying this
59:29
because this is such like you could fertilize your neighbor's farm with this one.
59:37
She says, as a society, we really don't mind if women suffer mentally
59:43
or physically as long as it makes things easier for men. Lady who takes
59:52
who collects your trash, Lady who comes in a truck and picks up things
59:57
that you throw out, even if they stink, even they're heavy, throws
1:00:00
them in the back of the truck, takes the risk of working around a
1:00:06
crusher, drives that humongous vehicle. It takes all of the contamination risks dealing
1:00:14
with your trash and everybody else's who does that. How many of those people
1:00:17
are women exactly, you know, and they love to complain about unpaid labor,
1:00:25
the unpaid labor that women do. Well, what about the unseen labor
1:00:30
that men do, the unrespected work that men do? Please give me a
1:00:38
break. Yeah, I don't get I don't get paid to sit on my
1:00:43
ass and fold laundry and watch TV. While if I have a kid,
1:00:49
I maybe you know, make some food for it and you know, play
1:00:54
with it a little bit and you know, come on, God, just
1:01:00
stop it. This is the life that you chose, and you complain about
1:01:04
it. Give me a break. Parenting is tough for both sexes. Like
1:01:07
and I will, I will say it is. There's a lot of work
1:01:10
involved in that, but it's worked that you chose to do, and it's
1:01:15
worked that you knew was unpaid before you chose to do it. Same thing
1:01:19
living at cohabitating, Like you, you picked up that work that wasn't work
1:01:23
that somebody dumped on you. You picked up that work and now you're complaining
1:01:27
about it. But I mean, like, just just that invisible the guy
1:01:30
that takes takes your trash every week, the invisible work of the guy that
1:01:37
that gets your power back on after a thunderstorm, right right, The invisible
1:01:43
work of the guy that gets your power back on after a squirrel decides to
1:01:46
barbecue itself on the power lines, and you know, or in the power
1:01:51
we've had some horrific accidents of late, like they they pop actually like oh
1:02:00
no, yeah, it's really not pretty. But and then a bunch of
1:02:07
men have to come in and they have a whole series of steps they have
1:02:09
to take before they can even start the job, because you want to make
1:02:14
sure that you are not going to come into contact with live electrical feed because
1:02:20
it'll stay live and you won't. But yeah, and and and it's like
1:02:25
it cooks you. So yeah, those women don't think about that. Women
1:02:30
don't Most women don't know that the the utility that gives the you power,
1:02:38
that brings power to your house has a job in areas where there are power
1:02:45
lines that are not otherwise accessible, where one man flies a helicopter with a
1:02:51
metal platform sticking out from the side of it, and another man sits on
1:02:54
that platform and works on a power line repair, Like he has to do
1:03:00
maintenance and repair of a power line that way because it's too high up where
1:03:05
there's other no other way to get to it. Right. Those those are
1:03:08
things that women don't think about women, don't think about when they put gas
1:03:13
in their car. They don't think about the roughnecks working on oil rigs or
1:03:19
in oil fields and the risks they take. The machinery that they work with
1:03:22
can crush them. It's one of the most horrific accidents mister Ballin talks about
1:03:29
and on his YouTube channel is it's something that happened on an oil rig to
1:03:37
a guy like I, I can't even talk about it on this channel.
1:03:39
It's it's not our style, and I think that would But those risks,
1:03:46
those types of risks, they'll sit down to a fish dinner and not think
1:03:52
about the men who risk their lives deep sea fishing in the ocean to get
1:03:57
that fish. They'll order, they'll order crab meat at at a fancy restaurant
1:04:01
and not realize that chances are when a ship goes out crabbing, it's going
1:04:09
to come back with one dead. Guy like that's that's yeah, It's that's
1:04:16
not even just chances, it's there will be injuries. There's there's a pretty
1:04:20
high chance of death, and it's it's a very high risk. But if
1:04:25
those things weren't available for them, they would complain right, absolutely would complain.
1:04:31
They don't think about the fact that, you know, we hear all
1:04:38
the time about frontline workers. Uh in COVID, the nurses that were frontline
1:04:43
workers. But you know, before there was COVID, there were other infectious
1:04:47
diseases, many many of them are more dangerous, less curable, less survivable,
1:04:57
more contagious, and the profession of infectious disease specialist is dominated by men.
1:05:05
Men are at war with bacteria. Men are at war with flesh eating
1:05:10
bacteria, with antibiotic resistant gut bacteria, and and and so on, viruses
1:05:18
that you don't want to know about. But yeah, it's you know,
1:05:26
we don't mind women suffering as long as it makes things easier for men,
1:05:30
like the bullshit I need my hip waiters. Jeez m But good news,
1:05:38
she says men. Even with the horrible side effects, women are still very
1:05:43
willing to use birth control. Unfortunately now it's harder to get it than it
1:05:47
should be. Which that's not true either. No, it's not at all.
1:05:55
Jesus Christ. Do you have a job. I'm pretty sure if you
1:05:58
do. Most people who work have medical insurance. I know that there are
1:06:02
certain jobs that do not provide medical insurance, but you still have access to
1:06:09
over the counter birth control methods, so spare me well, and if you
1:06:15
don't go to your doctor. Right, there's the many minute clinics or whatever
1:06:20
at CBS, and I think Walgreens has them, Kroger some Krogers have them,
1:06:27
Walmart has them. Of course, Walmart's an imitation of CBS, so
1:06:31
that's to be expected. But like all of these different pharmacies and department stores
1:06:39
that have pharmacies have little clinics. And then you also have planned Parenthood,
1:06:45
which if you cannot tell me that planned Parenthood helps you get free birth control
1:06:50
pills and helps you with a free appointment for birth control pills, you know,
1:06:57
if you can't can't admit that to me, then I win the argument
1:07:01
that planned Parenthood only exists for abortion, right, all right, because it's
1:07:06
obviously not helping you get birth control. Oh no, but they do breast
1:07:11
cancer screeny, Hannah, exactly, yeah, yeah, and they claim to
1:07:21
do things for men too. But then when you look for where are the
1:07:26
clinics that do that? Almost none, almost none of their clinics do that.
1:07:30
But yeah, so it's not really that hard to get birth control options
1:07:35
for women, don't necessarily require you to go to your family doctor. You
1:07:41
can go to a clinic. The reason that hormonal birth control requires a physician
1:07:46
and a prescription is because it is a drug and it can interact with other
1:07:53
drugs. You need to have the information that if you take it with the
1:07:58
wrong drugs, they can make it ineffective or they can make it over effective,
1:08:01
and it can cause you problems. And it you know, there are
1:08:04
certain foods you should't eat while you're taking it if you want it to be
1:08:08
effective, and then you have to take at the same time every day if
1:08:11
you want it to be effective. But that's that's part of the course.
1:08:15
Like my allergy medicine, if I take prescription allergy medicine instead of just the
1:08:19
over the counter stuff, I have to go to a doctor and get that
1:08:24
medicine. Right They as as a medicine that kept me from dying when I
1:08:29
was a kid. I couldn't get that without going to a doctor, So
1:08:31
I don't I don't think complaints that the same is true with hormones hormonal medicine
1:08:38
that you're you're taking for birth control are legitimate. Those are not legitimate complaints,
1:08:45
especially when if you don't want to use that. There's a whole bunch
1:08:47
of other things you can do instead, And yeah, it doesn't have to
1:08:53
be free. So in fact, there are many people try to make it
1:09:00
more expensive by fighting to make sure insurance companies refuse to cover it. That's
1:09:02
not true, how although they do fight for insurance companies right to not cover
1:09:09
it, but that doesn't ensure that they won't. And granted, people think
1:09:15
that an insurance company refusing to cover the drug would would save the money.
1:09:18
But if you get pregnant and you give birth at the hospital, your insurance
1:09:23
company covers that, and then they cover the child's medical care. So I
1:09:30
think they would find birth control to be cheaper. She says. Oral contracept
1:09:38
is for women can't be acquired easily or at the last minute. So the
1:09:43
only part of that that's true is the last bit. They can't be acquired
1:09:46
at the last minute. You can't go out five minutes before you're gonna have
1:09:48
sex and get birth control pills. Yeah, but you can get as she's
1:09:55
about to also say, and they don't work instantly, and they don't exactly
1:10:00
how the morning after pill works. I don't know if that's technically contraception.
1:10:04
But it kind of is, isn't it. It keeps plantation from happening.
1:10:11
Yeah, And as long as you do in the first in the No,
1:10:15
as long as you do it in the first a couple of days or whatever
1:10:17
it is. It's not instantaneous. Yes, it is instantaneous. It's as
1:10:21
instantaneous as any pill can be. Yeah, surely. But you know,
1:10:28
supermacidal gel foam, the sponge, the film, those are all you can
1:10:36
go out to any pharmacy where you get condoms and you can get all of
1:10:41
those things. Diaphragms have to be fitted, but if you're going to be
1:10:45
sexually active, you should take care of your sexual health and and do that
1:10:53
ahead of time. I U d's also have to be done, you know,
1:10:57
with a doctor's care, because that's that's an actual invasive procedure. But
1:11:00
all of the spermacidal things, the female condom, those are all things that
1:11:05
you can just go get right, so you can add your birth control beyond
1:11:13
his condom, even if you don't take or monial birth control. So she
1:11:19
goes on and they don't work instantly yet, but some things do. If
1:11:25
we're talking about the pill, it requires consistent daily use, and doesn't leave
1:11:29
much room for mistakes, forgetfulness, or unexpected disruptions to daily schedule. Again,
1:11:33
the side effects can be brutal. I'm still grateful for it. Please
1:11:38
don't take it away like you know, I don't care. If you're grateful
1:11:43
for it. You're responsible if you decide that's the route you're going to go
1:11:47
for maintaining it. If you get a car and you drive your car and
1:11:56
you get into an accident and you kill somebody in the accident, you don't
1:12:00
get to tell the court, well, I forgot to get my brakes done
1:12:06
so long that they just stopped working, and then I forgot that I didn't
1:12:12
have breakes, and I went out and drove my car like that. You
1:12:15
that doesn't absolve you of responsibility. That actually can add an enhancement to your
1:12:21
crime. If you knowingly drove a defective vehicle. Right, I was texting,
1:12:28
That actually gets you more in trouble. I was drunk. That actually
1:12:31
gets you more in trouble. Right only when you're talking about well, I
1:12:35
shouldn't I shouldn't have to deal with this pregnancy because because because I forgot to
1:12:42
take my birth control pill, I was distracted I ate the wrong thing.
1:12:45
I failed to maintain the integrity of my system. Right, That's that's your
1:12:51
fault. You did that. It's not only inexcusable, it's just lazy.
1:13:02
It's just plain fucking lazy. Yeah, you know it's it's sad. I
1:13:11
mean, so you think about this. I want to go back to what
1:13:15
I said earlier, or said in the uh. I guess I didn't say
1:13:18
it in the opener, but I did say it in our low bar.
1:13:25
Right. The argument for ending the financial restrictions on women under coverture, which
1:13:32
were in place because men were obligated to manage women's money and and uh financially
1:13:40
support their welfare, and and it was very there were there was a set
1:13:44
of ethics around that, like if she came into the marriage with property,
1:13:47
he got control over it, but he was only allowed to use it in
1:13:50
her interests. He wasn't allowed to like just take it for himself and use
1:13:55
it, and and so that was ended. The argument for ending that was
1:14:01
that women have agency, that they are adults, that they are fully capable
1:14:05
of managing their own affairs, and they should be able to manage their own
1:14:10
money and get bank accounts and get credit cards and run up debt and they
1:14:16
should should be expected to pay it themselves, and we aren't placing any additional
1:14:23
demands on men, which is bullshit. Women run up debt all the time
1:14:26
and then men are expected to pay it. But still, that was the
1:14:30
argument. Women have that agency to manage their own financial system and to have
1:14:35
financial autonomy, and abortion is the argument that women have their right to reproductive
1:14:42
autonomy, which comes with the same kind of responsibility to manage your system.
1:14:47
And yet here we are being told how hard it is and how old women
1:14:51
can't manage our own system. Should we go back to covidture? Should we
1:14:56
have guardians that women women can't go out on a date with without a Oh
1:15:03
shit, I can't think of the term when you chaperone? Yes, like
1:15:09
women can't go out on a date without chaperones because they can't decide whether or
1:15:12
not to have sex. They can't make sure that their birth control is managed,
1:15:15
you know, and so on. Right, so she says, no
1:15:20
ding ding was alts the wedding ring. There you go, she says,
1:15:29
I'm just saying women's birth control isn't simple or easy. In contrast, let's
1:15:32
look at birth control for men, meaning condoms, because guys, you only
1:15:38
have one option. Yeah, condoms are readily available at all hours, in
1:15:45
expensive, convenient, and don't require a prescription. They're effective and work on
1:15:49
demand. And how effective how effective are they the jury's out, but it's
1:15:54
ninety something percent. Let's go with ninety five percent. That means every twenty
1:16:00
times you have sex, you get pregnant. Ones not particularly effective, and
1:16:04
that's only if you use them. There are certain skills involved in applying a
1:16:12
condom to make sure it doesn't tear, to make sure there's no sucking air
1:16:15
bubble at the bottom of it or something. And even if you do it
1:16:18
absolutely right, there's still a higher than negligible chance that it didn't work.
1:16:26
There's countless stories of people who use the condom and then got pregnant. Whoops
1:16:30
out of that happen because they're not that effective. And then I know they're
1:16:33
not inexpensive if you're poor. Yeah, if you want to have sex on
1:16:39
anything resembling a regular basis, you need to be I have no idea how
1:16:44
expensive they are. I don't. Well, there's there's that, and then
1:16:47
then you have condoms can have side effects. I'm just I'm just gonna tell
1:16:54
you, guys, discovering an allergy sucks at any point in time time,
1:17:00
but holly fuck in the middle of inflat flagrante de lecto it is. It
1:17:06
is awful when you discover that you're allergic to latex and there is latex up
1:17:11
against a mucous membrane. And even worse than discovering that you're allergic to latex
1:17:19
is discovering that you're both fucking allergic to latex. It, I will tell
1:17:28
you, it kills the mood. Then you find out that at least in
1:17:34
the nineties things have gotten a little bit better. But at least, you
1:17:39
know, in the nineties, alternative condoms that are not latex, non latex
1:17:44
condoms were crappy. In the nineties, they sucked like that. That was
1:17:50
a good reason right there for abstinence. And now now we've got silicon,
1:17:56
and frankly that should be the primary thing. Now latex should not be the
1:18:01
primary thing, but it is. And it is still a little bit more
1:18:06
expensive to get your condoms if you are allergic to latex, and latex allergy
1:18:11
is becoming more common, so you know, she can go fuck herself with
1:18:15
that idea that they're just anywhere and everywhere and they're easy to get. I
1:18:20
keep getting told they're free. Well no, no, no, if you
1:18:24
go to the places that give away free condoms, they only have latex.
1:18:31
They do not have non latex, at least in my experience. So yeah,
1:18:36
they can. That's that's bologny, you shall have. And yet to
1:18:43
bring it up again, condom is not a male form of birth control.
1:18:47
It goes over a peni, it goes over a penis. But like I
1:18:50
said, there's there's nothing stopping a woman any more than a man from applying
1:18:56
a condom and demanding a condom be applied. So it's this is this is
1:19:04
why we frame things as unilateral. A condom is not a male form of
1:19:09
birth control. Neither is a femidon. I know nobody wears femidoms because they're
1:19:13
fucking an absurd adventure. But a man can demand that a woman wears a
1:19:17
femidom. So it's not a female form of birth control. It's it's a
1:19:21
it's a mutually applied form of birth control. Yep. And and somebody says
1:19:30
what about lamb skin, Well, lamb skin is porous, it is less
1:19:33
effective. Than latex, and what we had historically as a an alternative was
1:19:41
not flexible. The way that the latex is now silicon has fixed that silicon
1:19:47
is flexible. Like the old school non latex condoms our hardest hell to get
1:19:54
on to penis of unusual size. I guess, well, even the usual
1:20:02
size, I just I don't think they would be easy to get on that.
1:20:05
But if it's if it's even slightly larger than normal, like if it's
1:20:13
if it's just it's it's ridiculous. It's hard. You've got to be able
1:20:17
to stretch the thing to get it on. You can't just roll it down
1:20:20
because you're dealing with something that, even even erect, is still human flesh,
1:20:27
not something inanimate and and solid, So it's still flexible. So it's
1:20:35
it's a it's an adventure in and of itself trying to use condoms that are
1:20:39
non latex. And even the other thing is that they did not do a
1:20:44
very good job of making the big ones, so there were there were a
1:20:46
lot of problems with those, like it was bad, and yeah, I
1:20:53
think vegans can't use the lamb skin ones either, So there's there's also that
1:21:00
some people have a moral objection, Like somebody mentioned Van Vegan, Like,
1:21:06
you know, as far as I'm concerned, if you're if you're vegan,
1:21:10
that's your own problem. But Jesus Christ, look, look I gotta say,
1:21:15
if you're that devoted to the cause, I guess at least at least
1:21:23
Late Texas Vegan. It comes from plants, it comes from trees. That's
1:21:28
why I'm allergic to it. But I really wish I discovered that at the
1:21:32
dentist's office instead, because I'm telling you guys, never never have want to
1:21:36
have that experience again. Like Jesus, this is a bad evening. So
1:21:45
her her bullshit basically makes it sound like only women have a rough time with
1:21:51
with birth control. Only the birth control that is the hardest to use or
1:21:58
has the most side effects is women's birth control, and all other birth control
1:22:01
is irrelevant. Right Then she goes on men can keep them stocked up just
1:22:08
in case, so they're always prepared. So she doesn't realize that condoms have
1:22:14
expiration dates on them because the materials that they're made out of deteriorate and eventually
1:22:18
you get to a point where if you try to use it it will break.
1:22:25
Amazing, she says, or how about the fact, how about maybe
1:22:30
you provide the condom. Yeah, women can keep condoms stocked up. Yes,
1:22:35
Like what was that one that one scene in Pretty Woman where she just
1:22:40
pulled aside the I think it was in her boot and there's a whole bunch
1:22:45
of condoms. They are different condoms there for him to choose from. Like,
1:22:48
yeah, you can keep condoms in your purse that you have like five
1:22:54
hundred other things in there, and just make sure you keep them in a
1:22:56
case that's hard to puncture if you gotting pins and stuff, because you know
1:22:59
you want to work, all right, But you you can carry condoms,
1:23:02
lady. You don't have to. Men don't have to do that for you.
1:23:05
And you can say no glove, no love, yea, trust me,
1:23:12
ladies, they're just as expensive for you as they are for men.
1:23:16
There you go, there is. There are many forms of female birth control
1:23:19
that the state will supply you free of charge. There is that as well.
1:23:26
Yeah, so she she's full of shit with that as a bonus.
1:23:30
In general, women love women use condoms. They keep us from getting STDs.
1:23:35
They don't less than our pleasure during sex. We don't mind if you
1:23:42
lessen your pleasure. They don't less than our pleasure. Now, this is
1:23:45
something I didn't I didn't know until I was like twenty and I talked to
1:23:49
a woman and she was like, and I was like, really they reduced
1:23:54
her pleasure as well. She's like, yep, they absolutely do. So
1:23:58
what what the fuck is this bit's talking about? Yeah? Well, and
1:24:01
the reason ribbed condoms exist is because the the other kind can smooth out a
1:24:09
guy's uh skin and everything, Like, you don't have the vainness, you
1:24:14
don't have the texture. Skin is not smooth. Skin is like, that's
1:24:17
why you're able to get a grip on things because you have your skin actually
1:24:23
has little little cracks and fissures in it and everything. It's not it's not
1:24:29
smooth. And uh, your mucous membrane even even more so, there's there's
1:24:34
friction that takes place. Well, condoms a total different story. It's not
1:24:39
the same. And uh so of course it's gonna you know, if if
1:24:43
the woman has vaginal orgasms, not all women do. I guess I've was.
1:24:50
I was on Hunting Badger radio before I learned that that that's not universal.
1:24:56
But so I don't know. I guess it's actually unusual for women to
1:25:04
have fagion orgasms. But in any case like that, the ribbed condoms are
1:25:13
supposed to help. So there's that. So she's full of shit there and
1:25:19
and then she goes on they don't prevent us from climaxing. And the best
1:25:23
part, clean up is so much easier. No waddling to the toilet as
1:25:28
your jiz drips down our legs. So why in the world are there ever
1:25:32
unwanted pregnancies? Why don't men just use condoms every time they have sex?
1:25:38
Seems so simple, right, And then she goes into blaming men. Oh,
1:25:45
I remember men quote, men don't love condoms. I have to ask
1:25:51
if a man uses a condom, man, you still get pregnant? Is
1:25:55
it still his fault that you're gonna say? Yes? Okay, yep?
1:26:03
And men frequently, in fact, men frequently pressure women to have sex without
1:26:08
a condom. You know, I actually have never I don't remember ever encountering
1:26:13
that had one break the condom, not the man, But I mean that
1:26:25
you ever broke a man during sex. I'll try hard to have no.
1:26:30
I like my sex partners, don't like to have sex with people I don't
1:26:35
like you know, I suppose I could cuddle somebody to death. But yeah,
1:26:45
and it's not unheard of for men to remove the condom during sex,
1:26:48
like ladies, let's let's let's go here during sex. During it. If
1:26:59
if you don't know what his hands are doing during sex, you're doing it
1:27:04
wrong. I'm going to repeat that, if you don't know what his hands
1:27:10
are doing during sex, you're doing it wrong. And she's saying this is
1:27:15
if women don't also do it too. Yeah, I want to I want
1:27:20
to feel you take the sticky thing off. Yeah, she's talking about stealthing.
1:27:27
She linked to an article about stealthing, like there's and then there's jizz
1:27:34
jacking, which, yeah, we don't know how mythological this is, pulling
1:27:40
a used condom out of the the mythological. Little court case, there's been
1:27:45
a court case which suggests has been many many headge cases. Many, yes,
1:27:54
but there is one court case that made the news. But as far
1:27:58
as stealthing is gonna is concerned, I'm going to put it put it to
1:28:00
men this way, all right. I know that pickup artists talk about reproduction
1:28:10
as like it's a point system and just conceiving a child. It makes you
1:28:16
winner of the game or whatever, Right, But not if you hand your
1:28:23
child over to a deadbeat. And women who knowingly, willfully and deliberately bring
1:28:29
a child into a poverty situation that they keep the child in by retaining custody
1:28:35
after the birth are deadbeats. All right, Don't give your child to a
1:28:41
deadbeats. That's not a win. It's not a win for you, and
1:28:45
it's not a win for your child. Your child's going to have worse outcomes
1:28:49
in that situation. You won nothing by stealthing. You did something stupid.
1:28:57
You put yourself in a bad situation. You took a risk of getting uh
1:29:01
saddled with with a child support obligation for life. And on top of all
1:29:09
of that, you know you took took a risk that your child is going
1:29:13
to be with a woman from the set of women that are the most likely
1:29:17
to neglect or abuse your child. Don't do that, Like, if you
1:29:24
give a rat's ass about reproducing, at least love your children enough to give
1:29:28
them a better situation than that. So that's that's that's my take on stealthing,
1:29:33
right, And yeah, sperm jacking is definitely a thing. Women who
1:29:39
deny it are liars, They know about it, they encourage it, and
1:29:44
they even encourage lying about birth control in order to facilitate it. So there
1:29:47
you go, and it throws a big old wrench into this idea that men
1:29:51
are one responsible for unwanted pregnancies, because that right there is a woman being
1:29:58
literally one hundred percent responsible for a pregnancy unwanted by a map. But it
1:30:03
doesn't happen exactly. She goes on, let's see her next fallacy. Why
1:30:14
would men want to have sex without a condom? Good question. Apparently,
1:30:16
it's because, for the minutes they are penetrating their partner, having no condom
1:30:20
gives the experience more pleasure. So there are men willing to risk getting women
1:30:26
pregnant, which means literally risking her life, her health, her social status,
1:30:30
her relationships, and her career so that they can experience a few minutes
1:30:34
of slightly more pleasure. Is that for real? Yes? Yes it is.
1:30:41
No, No, he's not risking anything at all. Yeah, and
1:30:44
he's not risking anything at all. Well, and honestly, having a nine
1:30:47
months pregnancy before putting the child up for adoption does not risk your social status,
1:30:54
your relationships are, your career, So that's bullshit. Unless you know
1:31:00
you got pregnant cheating on your husband, then it might risk that relationship.
1:31:03
And as far as pregnancy risking woman's life, we're talking something like seventy three
1:31:10
out of one hundred thousand women in the United States are are counted as pregnancy
1:31:19
related deaths. And that goes That includes women who committed suicide due to postpartum
1:31:27
depression, That includes women who had heart attacks or strokes the first year after
1:31:32
they gave birth. Women who's like the majority of pregnancy deaths. The leading
1:31:41
cause of death for pregnant women is health conditions that are related to being overweight
1:31:49
or out of shape, or having a poor diet. Like feminists will tell
1:31:56
you it's murder, it's not. The The leading cause of non medical death
1:32:02
is because people are so careful that pregnant women do not have accidents. And
1:32:09
we've had such great advancements in healthcare that that you know, we've reduced medical
1:32:15
deaths as well. But the the actual leading cause of death for for pregnant
1:32:25
women or cardiac and circulatory cardio pulmonary disorders that are generally caused by lifestyle choices,
1:32:36
so and and those a lot of those can be managed through proper healthcare.
1:32:44
So that's bullshit. This why risking my life? You're risking your life
1:32:47
more during sex than during the pregnancy. She goes on, what are we
1:32:59
talking about out here? Pleasure wise? If there's a pleasure scale with pain
1:33:04
beginning at zero and going down into the negatives and a backscratch falling at five,
1:33:10
and an orgasm without a condom being at ten, where would sex with
1:33:14
a condom fall like seven or eight. Here's where she really gets into the
1:33:19
weeds. It's not your call what a man wants. You have the right
1:33:27
to say, well, I'm not going to participate in that, or i
1:33:30
am going to participate in that. That's where your rights end. You don't
1:33:34
get to decide what he wants. That's not your call. Is that?
1:33:41
Is that really that hard for people to understand? His interests are not her
1:33:45
call. So let's see. She goes on, So it's not this is
1:33:54
this is like the book, I swear how much has left of this?
1:33:58
She's got a shitload of like she just went on and order christ, Twitter
1:34:02
is not the place to be writing a book. Why well, and this
1:34:06
was in twenty eighteen, where like it wasn't really that Oh geez, she
1:34:15
just this is like a thirty thirty tweet rant and she's whining. In my
1:34:30
experience, men really like their testicles. If irresponsible ejaculations were putting their balls
1:34:34
at risk, they would stop being irresponsible. This castration seemed like a cruel
1:34:39
and unusual punishment, definitely, but it is. Where is it worse than
1:34:45
forcing five hundred thousand women a year to puke daily for months, gained forty
1:34:47
pounds, and then ripped their bodies apart at childbirth? Oh my god,
1:34:51
the melodrama, Like she's that's that's her kind of argument. So let's look
1:34:58
at the interview. I'm I'm, I'm done with her. I'm not going
1:35:02
to read the rest of the thread because holy fuck, but if you want
1:35:08
to, the link for the article is on our patreon on the on the
1:35:13
page for this this this episode on our patreon. I will try to make
1:35:20
a a page for this when the blog gets back up. But if I
1:35:27
forget, it's I'm or if it's been more than a week, you know,
1:35:30
I'm not gonna do it because it'll come up like a new post and
1:35:34
then it won't be a new show. I just remember to go to the
1:35:40
Patreon and and look for this, but jeez, Pete. And so now
1:35:46
we have this woman that's made these proclamations right about ethics and medicine and personal
1:35:56
care and and so far, the thing we know about her is that she
1:36:00
is Mormon. So her interviewer Steph Black says, tell me about yourself and
1:36:05
what brought you here. And the first thing she says, my background is
1:36:10
in graphic design. So the the graphic design lady is an expert on ethics
1:36:21
and interpersonal relationships. Good to know. I started a blog in two thousand
1:36:29
and six called design Mom about the intersection of parenting and design. Oh god,
1:36:34
that's that's awful. That's just that's crap, And believe it or not,
1:36:40
it's still going. I can even write about abortion. That surprises some
1:36:46
people if they've only known me for my house tours or recipes. But I
1:36:51
always I was always writing about current events and political things that I was talking
1:36:58
to my own children about. You see, she's an expert on women because
1:37:01
she's a woman. God, I mean kind of but kind of not.
1:37:08
You know, I don't. I don't consider myself an expert on men,
1:37:14
even though I'm arguably a professional men's rights advocate. How did because an expert
1:37:19
on men would be well, a biologist, and I'm not a biologist.
1:37:24
There we go. Well, I mean, this is this is why I
1:37:27
disclaim when people call me an expert because I'm not an expert. I'm a
1:37:30
talking head. I'm a political commentator. And I will accept the title researcher
1:37:36
when people give it to me because I have done research. It's I'm not
1:37:39
I'm not a scientist. If they call me a scientist, then I know
1:37:43
no, wait a minute, I don't have like I don't do experimentation using
1:37:47
the scientific method. I research by finding information, and other people have discovered
1:37:54
and evaluating their methods of discovery. Right, that's it. So I don't.
1:38:00
I don't consider myself an expert, but I do consider myself capable of
1:38:05
and qualified to comment on political issues based on the research and the information that
1:38:12
I can provide people. This lady is just basically saying I feel this way,
1:38:16
and therefore it's true. It's it's the I feel unsafe narrative, but
1:38:25
with sex, I feel unaccommodated. Like jeez, your book, black says,
1:38:34
your book really started with a viral tweet thread back in twenty eighteen when
1:38:41
you wrote that men were responsible for hundred percent of unplanned pregnancies. What has
1:38:45
the journey been like from that tweet to this book? Blair says, it
1:38:50
was my very first thread. Oh jeez, that that that that's not my
1:39:01
first threadway viral because I said, we couldn't tell. I have images of
1:39:08
Snoopy typing on his typewriter. It was a cold lust. Three day was
1:39:14
a dark and stormy period. Yes, it was my very first thread.
1:39:19
I had never really used Twitter for anything other than promoting blog post. That
1:39:25
changed during the election. I had written this piece about abortion, but I
1:39:29
wasn't sure where to put it on my blog. I was it was a
1:39:33
little it was a little angrier maybe than other things they had written. I
1:39:39
sat on it until the Kavanaugh hearings, which was a politician after politician grandstanding
1:39:45
about abortion. None of them cared or knew anything about abortion. It was
1:39:50
just so maddening. So I decided to publish the thread and it went viral
1:39:56
instantly. What did the Kavanaugh harries have to do with abortion? Well,
1:40:00
there were two Kavanaugh hearings. There was the sexual harassment hearing. After the
1:40:08
left try to use sexual misconduct allegations because they're usually effective against Republicans. They're
1:40:15
not effective against Democrats, but they're usually effective against Republicans, and this time
1:40:20
it didn't work. But there's also a Senate hearing to approve the president's choice.
1:40:30
The president doesn't just get to say this guy is going to be on
1:40:32
the Supreme Court. Boom, he's on Supreme Court. You actually have to
1:40:35
have hearings and a vote on that whether they will allow him to appoint that
1:40:44
person or not. Right, So that's the hearings that she's talking about.
1:40:49
And what she's referring to was politicians stating their opinions on the ethics of abortion,
1:40:59
which she's labeled grandstanding, and none of them knowing or caring. So
1:41:06
as soon as they have opinions on ethics, they're not they're not valid.
1:41:12
Right, She has opinions on ethics, and as a graphic designer, her
1:41:15
opinions on ethics are much more relevant and meaningful than say, the opinions that
1:41:24
civil servants have on the ethics of a medical procedures, like because or may
1:41:30
not actually have any kind of understanding about the situation the procedure, and you
1:41:35
know, this is just conjecture, I just how do you know that they
1:41:42
don't know anything about abortion? You know, if I would hope that anyone
1:41:48
who actually has a stance one way or the other knows enough about it to
1:41:56
know what they're talking about and to have a stance. But generally, there's
1:42:00
no such thing as an adult living in the United States today, aside from
1:42:05
people whose disabilities preclude paying attention to such issues. There's there's not a normal
1:42:13
adult living in the United States today that knows nothing about abortion. Like she's
1:42:16
full of crap. Right, We've all had it shoved down our throats,
1:42:21
you know, like for as long as we've been adults, and some of
1:42:26
us for like I learned. I learned about abortion when I was thirteen.
1:42:30
I think every girl should learn about abortion when she's thirteen, because then she's
1:42:32
young enough to not accept all the made up bullshit that women used to justify
1:42:40
it. Like she's already she's still already taking classes that show that actually know
1:42:45
it's not just tissue. You know, there's there's obvious reasons for why there
1:42:49
might be ethical issues with engaging in this practice, and and it's debatable right
1:42:57
at the very least, But yeah, I was in the seventh grade and
1:43:01
learned what abortion was. I learned I heard the term, and I asked
1:43:05
my grandmother because she was a nurse. And then I wished I hadn't because
1:43:11
I would like to have gone my whole life not knowing that people do that.
1:43:15
But obviously I was an opponent ever after. Grandma was very clinical in
1:43:21
her description. She was She didn't pull punches. My grandmother was like the
1:43:27
female version of gandolf In in that that you know, all right, you're
1:43:31
gonna do this, Here's here's the way it's gonna be, You're gonna know.
1:43:34
But she also was very charitable to the people involved in terms of not
1:43:42
calling them evil, misguided, mistaken, poor choices, things like that.
1:43:48
She wasn't judgmental, but she wasn't. She was very clinical about the medical
1:43:55
end of it, and it was really gross. And I was anti abortion
1:44:00
for life, So yeah, she goes on. Overwhelmingly, the response was
1:44:04
positive about the thread. I had been sitting on the thread for six months
1:44:09
or so, so in my mind these ideas were old, but they were
1:44:12
new ideas for a lot of people. Like all she did was articulate what
1:44:17
feminists had been saying for years, but she articulated it in a way that
1:44:24
women could latch onto and promote the idea that they didn't have to be responsible
1:44:29
for their birth control. I was hearing from really progressive women that they never
1:44:36
thought about these things, and now they're suddenly having conversation with their partners about
1:44:41
vasectomy or the realities of birth control side effects. There were women crying to
1:44:46
me saying they didn't know someone could share this burden with them. It was
1:44:58
also really amazing to hear from men for whom it clicked. I'm not even
1:45:01
going on that link. I know that it's going to be feminist men.
1:45:05
I My blood pressure is high enough already. You can see in the comments
1:45:10
of the thread that they're mentally going through their past sexual experiences thinking, oh
1:45:15
crap, was I ejaculating responsibly? God? Was I choosing my own few
1:45:24
seconds of pleasure over her body? Can you see that they'll go into their
1:45:28
next Can you see that they'll go into their next sexual experience more responsibly,
1:45:31
more aware of what's at risk? And you know, again, this is
1:45:38
not about you, right. I know that women will will get mad at
1:45:44
me for that, because obviously pregnancy is it occurs in their body and all
1:45:49
that, right, But she didn't make it about mutual accountability. She didn't
1:45:56
make it about, you know, men and women should work together to prevent
1:45:59
conception. Love your children before you conceive them, take extra precautions to make
1:46:04
sure that you hold off on conception until you're ready to raise the child together
1:46:11
in a in a loving, supportive, economically sound environment. Like that's good
1:46:15
advice. That would have been great advice, right, But no, she
1:46:18
made it about condemning men for experiencing pleasure, shaming them six, shaming them
1:46:27
for their sexuality. Like that's not you're gonna lecture men about un you know,
1:46:34
their their pleasure and equate their pleasure with harm to women. You lose
1:46:41
me immediately, Yep, yep. But she goes on to say, and
1:46:45
this, this really is. This is women in a nutshell. And the
1:46:49
thread has been retweeted every day for four years, sometimes thousands of times a
1:46:57
day because abortion is in the news. So that's become women's only take.
1:47:03
Well, it's not us. Men are responsible for this. Abortion would never
1:47:08
happen if it wasn't for men. That's their take. I wonder at what
1:47:15
point they're gonna they're gonna say, male doctors have no right to perform abortions
1:47:18
on women. It's not beyond the scope. Yeah, feminist ideology, Like
1:47:26
just like women don't want male security cards patting them down in the airport.
1:47:31
At some point they're gonna say no, male doctors don't have a right to
1:47:35
give me an abortion unless the only doctor available is a man. Okay,
1:47:41
fair enough. I really want to kill this man's baby, and I quite
1:47:45
fancy doctors. Hello, doctor, do you want to fuck me and impregnatet
1:47:48
me? Yeah? It's it's it's really disgusting in it. You already have
1:47:53
Like right wing anti abortion women do blame men for abortion, just like this
1:48:04
woman does. They do it a different way. They claim that it's male
1:48:09
doctors scamming poor innocent, scared young girls. Now there is a degree to
1:48:15
which I will say abortion is a scam. It's not male doctors scamming poor
1:48:20
innocent young women though and girls. It's the abortion industry, which is mostly
1:48:28
women, including the doctors more abortionists or women. And then there's the nurses
1:48:33
that are involved. Those are mostly women. All the other women workers at
1:48:38
the clinic for the most part of women, you've got male security guards when
1:48:41
they want somebody to beat people up for trying to stop someone from having an
1:48:45
abortion, they call them in right, But the people that are making shitloads
1:48:50
of money on abortion are individual women working at these clinics, and they lie
1:48:58
to the public. They spread lies through the public that weak women can latch
1:49:04
onto to excuse stupid choices, and women do that, right, So there
1:49:15
is some advantage being taken, but it's it's like when somebody who is constantly
1:49:21
seeking out get rich quick schemes gets conned by fake get rich quick schemes.
1:49:29
Like if you were not being super lazy and trying to avoid work by doing
1:49:33
this instead, you wouldn't have had that problem, right, Or somebody buying
1:49:40
illegal drugs from strangers gets something that they weren't expecting in their drugs. Okay,
1:49:46
well, maybe maybe you should not have given your money to a criminal
1:49:50
and trusted that what they were giving you was good. Right, That's that's
1:49:55
a dumb idea. And this is the same thing. But you can't blame
1:50:00
that on men. Women are still allowing themselves there. They're will willfully gullible
1:50:08
in regard to this, and that's if they're gullible. A lot of women
1:50:12
are just willfully negligent. They don't give a shit. They The one chick
1:50:18
that I worked with, that the one people will remember as the girl that
1:50:24
I talked about putting the sinc drain plug in with the rubber stopper up and
1:50:30
not understanding why that that didn't work, you know, when she really did.
1:50:34
She just didn't want to do the dishes, and how I fixed that
1:50:41
along with the mop issue and all that. She talked about her history of
1:50:47
four abortions at eighteen years old like it was nothing. It didn't matter to
1:50:53
her. She she already had full by the age of eighty. Shit.
1:50:59
Yes, And I see, that's the thing. There's like over half a
1:51:02
million abortions in the US every every year. Her uterus must look like Swish
1:51:10
cheese. It's Jesus Christ. That's disgusting. That's it's startless in there.
1:51:15
It gets vacuumed regularly. Seriously though, Yeah, and and and this is
1:51:25
what you run into, right, It's not that she's gullible, it's that
1:51:30
she plays gullible when it's convenient for her to be able to be careless.
1:51:35
And then you know, when she doesn't want to face the consequences when she
1:51:42
she rolled. She rolled on her fertility check and uh, you know,
1:51:46
or her birth control check, and she rolled a one, and then she
1:51:49
decided she didn't consent to that number. Like, nope, sorry, lady.
1:51:54
You don't get to control whether you get a one or at twenty or
1:51:57
anything in between. So, yeah, the game is called craps. Yet
1:52:03
in that case, yeah, and and that's the argument is basically that women
1:52:10
don't have the agency to control their fertility. That women don't have the agency
1:52:15
to say, I'm not gonna have sex with that guy because he's uh not
1:52:20
you know, I don't want even the slightest risk that he might become the
1:52:24
father of my child. Right, not gonna do that guy, I'm gonna
1:52:28
wait for somebody better to come along. They don't have the agency to do
1:52:31
that, right, that's the argument. They don't have the agency to say,
1:52:36
no, I'm not doing this without a condom. If you want to
1:52:40
do this, you know, no glove, no love, wrap it up,
1:52:44
right, They don't have the agency, according according to this uh this
1:52:46
woman, they don't have the agency to decide ahead of time, I am
1:52:54
or am not going to be sexually active. It happens in the moment You're
1:52:57
like, you don't have a code of six on this. You don't have
1:53:00
any plan for your life. You don't have any I mean, Hannah,
1:53:05
when you're screwing a guy in the parking lot, you know, there's really
1:53:09
enough time to make decisions like that. Come on and it's it's a sad
1:53:13
thing, but like, I guess it's common to at the at the last
1:53:19
minute on a date be like, you know, I was gonna be careful
1:53:26
about sex and everything, but right now we just really have the hotspeed for
1:53:30
each other, and I'm going to throw all of that to the wind,
1:53:32
all my plans for the future down the drain for this one moment of pleasure.
1:53:39
The same argument that she makes about men, but when women do it,
1:53:42
it doesn't matter. When women take that same action and and don't care
1:53:48
about their future child enough to say, you know, let's make sure first
1:53:54
that we're not going to conceive a child in the heat of this moment and
1:53:59
maybe plane ahead a little bit. No, No, it's not a big
1:54:02
deal. It's okay for women to do that to their children for a moment
1:54:05
of pleasure. Yeah, maybe maybe have a conversation about with him about kids
1:54:11
beforehand. I can't tell you how many times I hear stories of women having
1:54:15
kids with a guy and then oops, they find out that he's got a
1:54:19
whole another family out somewhere else, a whole bunch of kids, a whole
1:54:24
bunch of different baby mothers or whatever, you know, and it happens.
1:54:29
It happens because women are just so, they are impulsive now, and they'll
1:54:35
forget they forget something, all right. I get told all the time that
1:54:42
most women only orgasm from clitteral stimulation. Well, that doesn't require penetration,
1:54:49
doesn't And if his orgasm requires penetration, well you've got two hands and two
1:54:55
holes that don't get pregnant, right, right, so is more than two?
1:55:00
I mean, well some of them holes. But yeah, if it
1:55:04
can fit in those other holes, then he might be too young for you,
1:55:10
right that, like especially your ear that's tiny. But but seriously,
1:55:15
you know, just just to make the point, it isn't necessary for vaginal
1:55:20
penetration to happen for both partners to have their full range of sexual pleasure,
1:55:28
you know, unless unless the woman has vaginal orgasms, and then you still
1:55:32
can have the clitteral orgasm without penetration, So that that's bullshit, Like what
1:55:40
argument she's making about what she's when she said about women having mourning sickness and
1:55:48
five hundred thousand women gaining forty pounds, like, which is also I gained
1:55:54
sixty, Like some women don't gain very much. So that's I guess an
1:55:58
average and you don't have to, right, But all of that shit for
1:56:03
his one moment of pleasure, Well, you're talking about condemning a child to
1:56:06
a lifetime of poverty and the issues that happen with fatherlessness, right, potentially
1:56:15
being on welfare's whole life or her whole life, potentially becoming an unwed parent
1:56:21
as a teenager themselves, because you wanted a moment of pleasure, right,
1:56:29
right? So which is worse? Which is worse putting an adult at risk
1:56:39
with their consent or inflicting all of that on your child who cannot consent because
1:56:46
they haven't been conceived yet. You're about to do that. It's gonna shame
1:56:53
men for their pleasure, but she's gonna get hers, huh right, And
1:56:58
that threat has been read tweeted every day for four years. Guys, this
1:57:03
is the way women are thinking today. They don't care that they are shaming
1:57:10
you for what they feel entitled to. They don't care that if they don't
1:57:17
take responsibility, it's their children who suffer. They don't care that they are
1:57:26
not being honest about their agency. They don't care that they're insulting themselves.
1:57:30
They don't care that they're taking away from your right to a partner who has
1:57:35
equal accountability for the act that you guys are about to engage in. They
1:57:41
only care about that moment of pleasure, and they want that moment of pleasure
1:57:45
to be as uncomplicated for them as humanly possible. They don't care if they
1:57:48
make it complicated for you. So she's going to talk about writing a book.
1:57:59
She wrote a book, according to her. Let's see. Right after
1:58:05
the tweet went viral, I was approached by a bunch of publishers that wanted
1:58:10
to turn it into a book, and I couldn't see it. Then someone
1:58:14
posed the question to me if Twitter had an edit button, would you change
1:58:17
anything about the thread? I immediately said yes, I know where people get
1:58:21
stuck. I know where there's new updated data, where the link I shared
1:58:27
no longer works. That was the trigger for me to write the book.
1:58:30
I know how to explain and expand on my tweets, So she really wrote
1:58:34
the book because women liked what she said, not because she was trying to
1:58:43
inform or change society or anything like that. And the process, I'm like,
1:58:51
she the next question here says, what was it like to actually turn
1:58:56
a viral tweets right into a book. I'm not going to read her answer
1:58:59
to that because I don't care the thesis. The next question, the thesis
1:59:04
of this book is really in Lesson thirteen that men are the cause of and
1:59:11
responsible for all unwanted pregnancies. How did you come up with that? What
1:59:18
triggered that specific argument? And she said, yeah, she got triggered.
1:59:26
I was reading statistics in probably early twenty eighteen of how many abortions there had
1:59:30
been for that year, and then numbers surprised me. They were higher than
1:59:34
I thought, And I was like, why am I surprised by this?
1:59:42
Maybe because you thought better of women until you read those numbers. Right,
1:59:45
I feel in my core that women are very aware and careful of their bodies.
1:59:50
So she disqualified the whole statement with the first two words, I feel.
1:59:58
So what I feel doesn't mean anything. It's not evidence. Facts.
2:00:03
Don't care about your feelings even if it's in your call, yes, in
2:00:08
your core. But that's just it. She wanted to believe women were careful,
2:00:13
so it must be men that aren't. She says, there's a sense
2:00:17
from women that we are not eager to get medical procedures like abortions. So
2:00:21
why are we having so many? Well, you know some of you are
2:00:28
having four before you turn eighteen. Then immediately I was like, oh,
2:00:35
I know why. I know exactly why. Birth control is super hard.
2:00:41
And I was saying this as someone who had six babies and got to choose
2:00:45
when to have them because I use birth control. But I hated birth control.
2:00:51
I hated it. I would have mood swings, I would have breakouts.
2:00:56
I hated the maintenance. Besides what it was doing to my body.
2:01:00
I had all these young kids. How am I supposed to get a yearly
2:01:03
exam just for birth control. I had little kids, and I was moving
2:01:08
a lot. I needed a new doctor, my insurance was changing, and
2:01:11
I would start the process of getting a prescription all over again. It was
2:01:15
such a pain, but it works, so that part I didn't hate.
2:01:19
I have to wonder if she regrets having all these children because complaints about birth
2:01:30
control and a bossing don't usually come from women who've had six children. Yeah,
2:01:35
like, have you really ever used birth control? When did you find
2:01:42
time for it between the six children? Oh? Jesus, Well, there's
2:01:48
another secret about birth control, at least the specifically the pill, because this
2:01:54
doesn't work with the non hormonal types of birth control. The pill works by
2:01:59
tricking your body into thinking it's already pregnant, so it doesn't try to get
2:02:01
pregnant anymore, it doesn't drop any eggs, you're not fertile during that time.
2:02:05
It sort of puts things off right. But then when you stop taking
2:02:13
the pill, your body goes through the same kind of oh shit moment of
2:02:16
like, Okay, I'm not pregnant. I was pregnant yesterday, but I'm
2:02:19
not pregnant today. Oh, we must have lost the baby. And then
2:02:24
it goes into high gear and it's like, all right, now we're gonna
2:02:27
be super fertile. So if you want to time a conception, it's it's
2:02:34
perfect to be able to use the pill to trick your body into thinking it's
2:02:40
pregnant and then also use a barrier method to make sure that if you screw
2:02:44
that up, the semen's not getting through, so the sperm's not there to
2:02:48
come into contact if you happen to drop an egg you know, here and
2:02:53
there during that use. But and you do want to double up specifically,
2:03:00
because if you let that hormone drop in your system, that the that the
2:03:06
birth control pill is giving you, your body thinks that you lost a baby
2:03:11
and starts trying very hard to make up for it. Well, when you
2:03:14
stop taking the pill is the perfect time to conceive. You stop taking the
2:03:17
pill, your body goes into high gear. And if you want to conceive
2:03:21
a baby at that time, you you know, like do the horizontal bop
2:03:27
every night, maybe a couple of times a night, just just to make
2:03:30
sure. And you will get pregnant if you can, right, unless you
2:03:34
are infertile, unless there's a problem, unless he's infertile, you know whatever.
2:03:40
That that's that's a pretty good way of making sure of when you're going
2:03:45
to conceive. And that's probably what she did. But I'm sure she probably
2:03:51
only used birth control pills. But the thing is, there's lots of things.
2:03:59
Can you imagine, Let's let's apply this to things that men do for
2:04:03
their families, Because birth control is something a woman does for her family.
2:04:06
Right. You do this not just for yourself, not just to prevent yourself
2:04:10
from having mourning, sickness and gaining weight and having to go through labor and
2:04:13
all that stuff. You do it so that you can time the conception and
2:04:20
birth of your child so that it's after you've gotten things ready for the child
2:04:27
to come along, that you make enough money, he makes enough money,
2:04:30
the household is stable. You know that you love each other and you're dedicated
2:04:36
to each other, and you're going to raise the child together. You have
2:04:39
a support network, you know, those kind of things. That's the reason
2:04:43
that you use birth control to make sure that you're not having the baby before
2:04:46
those things are ready, right, And that's a thing you're doing for your
2:04:51
family. You're not just doing it for yourself. That's for the child.
2:04:55
What the men do for their child, they drag their ass out of bed
2:04:59
every day and go to work. Some men drag their ass every day out
2:05:02
of bed and go to a job that is just absolutely boring, so fuck
2:05:10
or soul crushing. Soul crushing. Their Their boss hates them, treats them
2:05:16
like shit. Their industry is. They don't feel like they're accomplishing anything,
2:05:21
you know, whatever. Some guys go to work every day and risk their
2:05:26
lives because they get paid more doing a job that risks their life than they
2:05:31
do standing behind a cash register selling up selling candy bars. Right, ye,
2:05:40
some guys are responsible in order to support their families. They take on
2:05:47
responsibility for three hundred and fifty employees at a manufacturing plant and all of the
2:05:56
liability that goes with that. And then women complain that they make more money
2:06:00
than the people who work on the line in the factory. Right. Some
2:06:03
guys go to work every day and get shot at and they're not necessarily all
2:06:09
cops yep like that that. Men do that for their family, and they
2:06:17
may hate it, right, they may absolutely hate their job. They like
2:06:23
the paycheck, they like seeing their family benefit from the paychecks. So they
2:06:28
do it. And they don't whine about it. They don't complain about it.
2:06:32
They don't even complain when they get injured, right, they don't.
2:06:39
They don't blame somebody else for it. They don't say women need to pick
2:06:45
up you know, the slack and and how dare women like? They even
2:06:48
made women room for women in their industries. They invented things, men invented
2:06:56
things for you know, women to make our housework. And I'm not scrubbing
2:07:01
my laundry out on a rock in the river behind the house. I have
2:07:05
a washing machine. I don't even have to do like my great grandmother had
2:07:11
to do, where she plugged it in and it boiled the water using electricity,
2:07:15
and if you touch the water you get shocked. Nope, I can
2:07:17
close the lid, push a button and it does all the work. And
2:07:24
then I don't have to hang up the clothes. I can dry them in
2:07:26
the dryer. It's great, right, Men invented that. Men invented all
2:07:30
those things. Men invented, you know, your electric stove, all of
2:07:32
your appliances, all of the things that you use that make it quick and
2:07:38
easy for you to do the chores that you complain about all the time.
2:07:42
And yet women bitch about having responsibility to decide what gets into their uterus and
2:07:51
whether it gets to live or die before it gets to an egg to fertilize
2:07:56
it. So she goes on, you know, after saying birth all this
2:08:07
about birth control. Oh, it's such a pain. I'm a victim of
2:08:11
the choice to use hormonal birth control. We don't ever talk about that.
2:08:16
We act like it's super easy, Like I'm just going to stop at the
2:08:20
pharmacy and pick up my band aids, neosporin, ibuprofen, and a pack
2:08:24
of birth control pills. So why would we have abortions when we don't like
2:08:31
medical procedures Because birth control is awful for a lot of women, women inaccessible,
2:08:35
too expensive, and it's not great on the body. And again she's
2:08:39
talking about birth control as if only birth control pills exist. She's remind all
2:08:46
the other things. Reminder, the only form of unilateral male birth control is
2:08:50
a vasectomy, and you want to talk about that effect on the body.
2:08:56
It's it's not just that it's well, it's not irreversible, but a vasectomy
2:09:03
is a form of quite invasive surgery, actually involves chopping tubes, and a
2:09:09
reversed vasectomy is even more of an of an invasive surgery. And like I
2:09:16
said, that's the only thing a man can do that he doesn't have to
2:09:18
disclose to the woman he's having sex with. So don't give me that ship.
2:09:24
And then there's the the problem of sperm once they get to the cut
2:09:31
part of the tube, burying themselves into the other cells in that area,
2:09:37
and causing all manner of I don't know if immune diseases is the right term,
2:09:45
but they can they you know, like I said, the science isn't
2:09:50
in on it. But when when the sperm go wandering through the cells of
2:09:52
the other body, God knows what they can do. This is why that
2:09:58
your cell is Wait, am I get the right thing? I keep getting
2:10:01
the sill confused with magicil is? I think a cleansing thing that you don't
2:10:13
really that was there was there was some uns you're yeah, you don't really
2:10:16
need I need to make sure I get the right word when I ever say,
2:10:20
but yeah, vasil gel would it would be the very It would be
2:10:28
the equivalent of of any of the let's say eleven forms of birth control that
2:10:33
women can have. Many men could just have a simple injection of something that
2:10:39
shreds the sperm rather than just blocks it off and sends it hey wire into
2:10:43
the body to run a muck. Yeah, you don't appear to have heard
2:10:52
any of the nightmare stories of of what can happen to two men after a
2:10:58
vasectomy. Well, for one, thing like if you have an immune response
2:11:03
to your sperm, that can cause like an inflammation throughout the whole area.
2:11:11
But it can also like if it gets into your bloodstream, that's the whole
2:11:15
body inflammation. You're talking. Everything from arthritis to heart attack can be caused
2:11:20
by that. So yeah, bowel disease, Yeah, like that. That
2:11:26
could be a big can of worms. It's worse than the pill. I'm
2:11:33
well, it's well it. I mean, complications from vasectomies are a lot
2:11:39
worse than complications from the pill, but they're probably rare. Yeah, yeah,
2:11:45
they might be. It just your body responds to things that it thinks
2:11:50
aren't supposed to be there. So it would make sense your body expects your
2:11:56
sperm to go out through the urethra and be on and if you put it
2:12:03
into the tissue surrounding the vast deference instead, then that's going to confuse your
2:12:09
body. And that's usually when an immune response happens because of that kind of
2:12:16
like your body doesn't expect that to be there. An immune response, you
2:12:22
basically would have it be like an allergy. Honestly, it makes very much
2:12:26
sense that that would happen. I wonder if that's what happened to there's an
2:12:31
NFL player. I won't I won't for you know, for company involved.
2:12:35
I won't call him a football player, but he's an NFL player. I
2:12:39
want to see it's Keyshawn Johnson. Yeah, for some reason, I don't
2:12:45
think that might be him. But anyway, this man has multiple multip I'm
2:12:50
talking about like eight plus kids. And then he said he went and got
2:12:54
a a sectomy and then I think it was like six or eight months later,
2:13:01
Oops, his wife is pregnant again. So uh, if that's what
2:13:11
actually happened, or maybe he's a lot about getting medically confirm that the vasectomy
2:13:16
verse because it can happen, you know, stuff can This can happen with
2:13:20
you getting your tubes tied too. It's why they why the fishy clip was
2:13:24
invented, but they don't do that with it. It'd be a lot more
2:13:28
difficult to do something like a fishy clip with with the vast deference it's not.
2:13:35
For one thing, it's smaller than the Philippian tube. But but yeah,
2:13:43
that it's possible to get to create a pregnancy after a vasectomy. It's
2:13:48
possible for sperm to find their way through and and it's also possible for it
2:13:54
to undo. I think what's more likely is as she's a trifling hop when
2:14:00
she just went and got knocked up by somebody else. But you know that's
2:14:05
that's the other thing, did it? Did it go along with with the
2:14:09
meme where the vasse ectomy doesn't prevent pregnancy, it just changes the color of
2:14:11
the baby. Yeah, it's horrible. I am a horrible person and I'm
2:14:20
not gonna stop. So so there you go, Like, just just to
2:14:26
be blunt, you know, no woman is ever gonna just trust a guy
2:14:31
to be the only prevention. If if she is intelligent, reasonable and responsible
2:14:41
and and so any woman that makes this argument, like if you are dating
2:14:46
somebody, guys and you hear this argument come from her, that this woman
2:14:50
is making run fast because this is a woman who will never take responsibility for
2:14:56
herself through through her entire life. When you get married, she is going
2:15:01
to get credit cards in your name and run them up. And then when
2:15:05
you guys have to declare bankruptcy, she is going to blame you for not
2:15:09
earning enough money. She is not going to be careful raising your children.
2:15:13
She is not going to treat you with dignity and respect. She is not
2:15:18
going to love you. She is going to use you. So don't don't
2:15:24
date a woman that makes this kind of argument. It's fair to date a
2:15:28
woman who says, I'm going to use this type of birth control and I
2:15:33
expect you to wear a condom because I don't want to trust just one thing.
2:15:37
It's not good to have a woman making this kind of argument that men
2:15:41
are responsible for pregnancy and women are not. And this thing. She goes
2:15:48
right back and forth. Here, oh, condoms. The contrast was so
2:15:52
clear. Condoms are free. Well, sometimes if you have access to its
2:15:58
free, they're there are no there are. There are clinics and in some
2:16:05
parts of the country in the United States that will give them away for free
2:16:09
if you ask, but actually most of the time there aren't. So but
2:16:20
she goes. Then she goes on, They're readily available. You can get
2:16:22
them in vending machines, you can get them in you know, on on
2:16:26
store shelves and all that. And that's true. They are readily available.
2:16:30
So are other female forms of birth control besides birth control pills I can walk
2:16:39
into there. There are four pharmacies in my neighborhood. Now I live in
2:16:43
a city. When I lived in a small town, there were three.
2:16:50
There were four pharmacies in my neighborhood actually, because and I'm counting my neighborhood
2:16:58
here, as about the size of that community, Like we're talking maybe a
2:17:01
two mile radius, right, far enough you can walk anywhere in a two
2:17:05
mile radius unless you have mobility challenges, and then maybe not. But a
2:17:11
healthy person can walking two miles should be nothing to a healthy adult, at
2:17:18
least if you're healthy enough to be screwing around, right. And I could
2:17:22
go to any one of them and find spermcidal foam, spermicidal gel, spermicidal
2:17:31
film, which is a barrier method like the sponge. I can find birth
2:17:35
control sponges I can find. I can get information on a diaphragm. Even
2:17:41
if I don't find a diaphragm, I can go to my doctor and get
2:17:46
a diaphragm, get fitted for a diaphragm, And I don't have to swallow
2:17:50
anything to use it, right, And of course, the absolute most free
2:17:58
form of birth control wherein you can swallow something, is not to use your
2:18:03
vagina for sex. But some some women do have a tough time swallowing that.
2:18:11
Yeah, how many times can I fit swallow into this sentence? Guys?
2:18:16
So she's she's talking about condoms are free. Will you know oral sex
2:18:20
is too. Condoms are in vending machines. I will say this, I
2:18:26
am leary of vending machine condoms, like even if I wasn't allergic to them,
2:18:31
because most of those are just the plain latex kind. I don't know
2:18:35
how long they've been in there, you know, I don't. I don't
2:18:37
like that. I would, I would want to get one off the shelf.
2:18:41
And I mean and all that. I've bought food from the grocery store
2:18:46
and that wasn't inspired. No, no, no, there's condoms at the
2:18:52
grocery store too, by the way, Well yes there are. But I've
2:18:56
bought food at the grocery store that when I took at home. Well actually
2:19:01
I don't know if I did it at the store or to actually got at
2:19:05
home, but the food was expired. Oh yeah, it's sitting there on
2:19:09
the grocery self. Like you have to pay attention to that thing. You
2:19:13
don't just there's no such thing as trust and believe, No, not not
2:19:20
if you don't like food poisoning. Yeah right, but yeah, so for
2:19:26
birth control, like she's she's talking about hormones, where there's actually a variety
2:19:35
of options available for women that don't require you to swallow a pill or get
2:19:41
a shot or use any hormones. And then she's complaining again, oh,
2:19:46
men hate condoms, and that that's that got her exploring the topics of the
2:19:52
thread. So then Black asks her, you wrote this book really calling on
2:19:58
men to step up. How has your husband responded to this? Now,
2:20:05
notice we haven't heard from the husband himself, so she's going to speak for
2:20:11
him. He's locked up in the basement, chains to the bed. He's
2:20:16
a little bit busy right now. He's probably locked up in the job,
2:20:20
chained to the work. But she says, he's probably my biggest advocate.
2:20:28
He calls himself my first convert. He got it immediately. He was looking
2:20:33
at our marriage, going, WHOA, why did I wait to get a
2:20:37
vasectomy? By the time I wrote this, he's had a vasectomy for years.
2:20:43
He was like, I wasn't really aware of the side effects. I
2:20:48
wasn't aware of how difficult it was for my wife to get birth control.
2:20:52
Oh he was talking about her side effects. M uh huh. I wasn't
2:20:58
supporting that, and I should have been. I could have made the appointments
2:21:01
for her. Dudes, if she didn't ask you to do that, don't
2:21:07
do that. And if she did ask you to do that, ask for
2:21:09
the request in writing, because like you, making doctor's appointments for your wife
2:21:16
is a good way to get accused of abuse. Yes, so yeah,
2:21:22
it's it's fine if you guys have that relationship. But you know, Jeel
2:21:28
Pete's I could have made the appointments for I could have. I made my
2:21:33
own doctor's appointments from the time I was eighteen. Actually I made doctor's appointments
2:21:39
before that, from the time I started driving. Really, I could have
2:21:43
made it so she doesn't have to take off work, or I could have
2:21:48
arranged childcare, which the same thing, I guess. But for crying out
2:21:56
loud, why does he have to make it so that she doesn't have to
2:22:01
take time at Why? Why doesn't Why is not that her responsibility? Right?
2:22:09
Like if I needed to arrange childcare for my kids so that I didn't
2:22:13
take off time off work, I just got together with my friends who had
2:22:20
kids my my son's age, and we traded time with the kids. You
2:22:26
know, he can be at your house during this time, and I'll take
2:22:28
your kid at my house for this amount of time, and that it was
2:22:33
settled, like, that's not difficult anyway. So yeah, he's he's supposed
2:22:41
to take responsibility, but she isn't. I say in this thread, you
2:22:48
think women would be mad at men about this, but none of us were
2:22:50
taught to think about this, so I can't be mad at and because I
2:22:54
wasn't thinking about it either. This is a cultural for not phenomenon, except
2:23:01
there isn't anything to be mad about, is there. Why would women be
2:23:07
mad that men don't take unilateral responsibility for women's choices unless women were social because
2:23:18
well, exactly, because then they want to be able to blame them for
2:23:22
when they make the wrong choice. They have to. It's believe the legal
2:23:28
scurb is plausible deniability. They want what they want until the point where they
2:23:35
can blame someone else from for what they did for the consequences, and then
2:23:43
pay. We'll pay for the consequences of their actions. Yeah. Yeah,
2:23:50
And we get told when we argue this on on social media or in person
2:23:56
with other women that use this argument, it's percent responsible for unwanted pregnancies.
2:24:03
We get told that this is about both people being responsible, not about shifting
2:24:07
the burden to him. So now I'm going to read the next question.
2:24:13
I'm going to ignore the what do you think men should be taking from this
2:24:16
book question because she answered that in the thread well, and the answer is
2:24:20
toilet paper. Yeah. The the the interviewer says, how does shifting the
2:24:28
burden of pregnancy prevention from women too men factor into the conversation around abortion?
2:24:35
So this woman obviously this this this interviewer obviously took it that way, and
2:24:45
that's I think most of the women that liked what she said took it that
2:24:48
way. The Blair doesn't correct her either. She says, as far as
2:24:56
the abortion confer conversation goes, my argument takes the motion out of it.
2:25:01
So many people want to debate me on when life begins and when it's murder.
2:25:05
These are philosophical and religious conversations. So I'm going to say, no,
2:25:11
they're not. When life begins as biological, that's scientific, it's not
2:25:16
philosophical, and it's not religious. Right when it's murder is an ethical question.
2:25:26
That's more philosophical, but it's not necessarily religious. The jury is still
2:25:33
out. And exactly when a non human, a supposedly non human collection of
2:25:41
cells becomes a fully fledged human collection of cells but it's still a scientific question.
2:25:48
It is, but it's given that it doesn't have a definitive scientific answer.
2:25:52
We're left with philosophical and religious conversations about it. But you know,
2:26:01
we can say nine months is too old, and we can we can say
2:26:05
one day is perhaps not too old. Between between those two is where we
2:26:11
get it. And I'd love to hear where Blair thinks that divide might be.
2:26:20
But I suspect it's towards the lower, I mean, the upper boundary
2:26:24
of that thing. It's hard to tell. I don't know what the Mormon
2:26:28
religious outlook is on abortion, so that might affect. Like I was raised
2:26:35
Christian Union, which is the it's an offshoot of Southern Baptist. So if
2:26:43
I were to just strictly look at it from a religious perspective, I would
2:26:48
have to I would have to say that all abortion would be murder. And
2:26:56
if I look at it from a more scientific perspective, well, I describe
2:27:01
that I'm not going to go through all of it because it would we we'd
2:27:05
need a whole show to discuss it. But I wrote a blog post about
2:27:09
that years ago, breaking the Glasses dot blogspot dot com. And the argument
2:27:16
is actually linked in the sidebar on that blog. It is a page instead
2:27:26
of a post, and it is on the topic of abortion. And that's
2:27:31
my main argument is, you know, we should have a at least some
2:27:41
consistency in how we approach when it is acceptable for a human being not in
2:27:50
a position of authority, because a citizen is not in a position of authority
2:27:56
under our law and policy, to terminate the human life of another living human
2:28:03
organism. That's that's it. I don't don't want to go beyond that in
2:28:09
this discussion, but simply simply put, if we're going to say it's not
2:28:15
okay to shoot your neighbor for a particular reason, then you have to come
2:28:22
up with an an exterior reason, you know, and and and external reason
2:28:26
or whatever, uh, an additional reason why it has to be okay in
2:28:33
utero, and I went through the whole you know, this is this is
2:28:39
what an organism is. This is what scientifically determines whether you're human or some
2:28:45
other species. This is what determines whether you're living or non living, whether
2:28:50
you're dealing with a non living thing or a living thing, I should say.
2:28:54
And when you combine that those three sets of information, you get a
2:28:58
conclusion that that becomes applicable to law and policy. Now, my own personal
2:29:09
position is there shouldn't be a government, so that throws law out the window,
2:29:16
and it becomes an ethical question for the individual. At that point,
2:29:20
do you are Are you okay with shooting people, for instance, to get
2:29:24
rid of them because they have a disability. If you are, you might
2:29:28
be more okay with abortion than I am. But yeah, so there you
2:29:33
go, and it becomes a question of it becomes a question of when it
2:29:37
becomes human. Yeah, and that's I I certainly don't feel qualified to answer
2:29:43
that question. I mean, every cell in a blast assist is a human
2:29:48
cell, so you could say a blast assist is a human and yeah,
2:29:54
that's that's what that's going. It gets complicated, and I'm gonna duck out
2:29:58
of that conversation that I just started because I'm not qualified because I'm a man.
2:30:03
Well, being a man doesn't disqualify you. But there are people that
2:30:05
will say being not being a biologist disqualifies you. But I call bullshit on
2:30:09
that, because they teach us about that stuff in elementary school. So which
2:30:13
is again why at thirteen I hadn't formed the excuses for abortion, and I
2:30:20
was able to see through the bullshit much more easily. I didn't know the
2:30:24
clouds in front of me that you get when you get older as a as
2:30:26
a woman, I think women hit peak maturity at about fourteen years old and
2:30:33
then go downhill, which is like that and reddits the reddits red Pill Forum
2:30:43
considering how mature the average fourteen year old girl is farewell, and I'm talking
2:30:50
about today's women. Like if you talk about women one hundred and fifty years
2:30:54
ago, there was a difference, especially if you're talking women that were,
2:31:00
you know, maybe in more pioneering areas of the country where there was less
2:31:07
less urban closeness and stuff, and it was all you had to depend on
2:31:13
the people around you and you had to be reliable and stuff like that.
2:31:16
Then maybe they matured their whole lives. But I don't think that's the way
2:31:20
it is for modern women. I think modern women really do stop maturing at
2:31:24
about the age of fourteen and go downhill from there. They certainly never are
2:31:30
faced with the level of responsibility that an adult man is faced with. If
2:31:35
I, for instance, at fourteen years old, if I had decided for
2:31:39
my life, I am going to find a guy who will allow me to
2:31:46
exploit the fruits of his labor for his whole life while I never earn a
2:31:52
penny and I get a free roof over my head and clothing and vacations and
2:31:56
whatever else that you pay for as a couple. Nobody would be like,
2:32:01
oh, you're a deadbeat, right. But if a man did that,
2:32:05
I'm going to find a woman and be a kept man. I'm going to
2:32:07
find a woman who will pay for everything, and I'm not gonna work.
2:32:11
The minute a man does that, people are like, oh, deadbeat.
2:32:15
What's wrong with you when you can't support your woman? Something, something's wrong
2:32:18
with that, you know. Even a guy that's going to be a stay
2:32:20
at home dad, right, is expected to have some some iron and fire
2:32:24
somewhere. Right, So only women are exempt from that, And only women
2:32:31
are exempt from being financially responsible, being good stewards of the man's income when
2:32:37
they do that. Right, If she wastes his money, nobody criticizes her
2:32:41
for that. They'll call him a fool for allowing her to do it too,
2:32:46
yeah, or a poor earner he's not earning enough he can't support his
2:32:50
woman. But if if a guy marries a woman and wastes her money then,
2:33:00
and he's he's he's a deadbeat, he's a moocher, right like he's
2:33:05
he's just he's effeminate, he's emasculated, like all these things. Not because
2:33:13
we don't think that dads are important as a society, but because we do
2:33:18
think that the male provider role is important. And honestly, you know,
2:33:26
a few hundred years ago, when we didn't have all of the amenities that
2:33:31
we have today, and we didn't all live in close proximity with each other,
2:33:39
having one parents stay at home while the other one went to work was
2:33:43
absolutely necessary, you know, or or at least if they didn't run a
2:33:48
business together like some some families, everybody ran the business together, especially farmers.
2:33:52
Like everybody worked on the farm, farm wives, we're not home just
2:34:00
homemakers, right They did farm work, and the kids worked on the farm,
2:34:03
and they had a trade. They knew a trade. When they grew
2:34:07
up, they could be farmers. But it doesn't make sense today. For
2:34:15
for like I live in an apartment with my husband, it would not make
2:34:18
sense for me to be a homemaker and only a homemaker in that instance.
2:34:28
Right there, we didn't have a business together, our son didn't grow up
2:34:33
learning a business from us. We did have close proximity to people that we
2:34:39
could trade childcare with. That it was not a kid being dumped into a
2:34:46
childcare system. It was visiting with friends and family and then having them come
2:34:50
and visit us. Right, that's that's it's perfectly fair to expect the woman
2:34:56
to hold up her end of the finances in that situation, and yet our
2:35:03
society treats women like that expectation is unnecessary. Women are exempt, only men
2:35:09
are obligated. So yeah, that's that the maturity thing. This is why,
2:35:16
honestly, all these women liked what this woman posted. They don't have
2:35:22
the maturity to value other people's recognition of their personal agency. If someone thought
2:35:30
that I didn't have the capacity, that it wasn't my fault when I didn't
2:35:37
plan ahead before I got pregnant. If someone thought that that was that was
2:35:41
all my husband's fault, that's an insult to me. Right, that's telling
2:35:48
me that I'm gonna have to go through life trap sing merrily along with no
2:35:52
attention to the potential consequences of my actions, just being victimized over and over
2:35:58
again by my own stupid choices. And watching my family be victimized as well,
2:36:05
instead of figuring out, hey, you know I could have done this
2:36:09
better, and if I do this again, here's how I'm going to improve
2:36:13
it. I screwed this up, and then the consequences are affecting my family.
2:36:18
Here's how I'm gonna work to mitigate those consequences so that they don't have
2:36:24
to suffer the consequences of my stupid choice. That is agency, even if
2:36:30
you didn't exercise your agency properly when you made the dumb choice, having the
2:36:35
agency to recognize that it was a dumb choice and you're not going to make
2:36:39
that dumb choice again, and that you've got to you. It's on you
2:36:41
to make up for it. It's on you to fix it as best you
2:36:46
can. Like that. That's that's part of being an adult. You're not
2:36:56
an adult if you don't have that. So these women are insulting themselves very
2:37:01
deeply and they don't even realize it. When when when a woman is in
2:37:07
labor, like in the most painful part of the labor process, and their
2:37:13
husband or the man who can't them pregnant is by their side holding their hand,
2:37:18
mopping their brow and such it's it's it's kind of a cliche at this
2:37:24
point that at some point they will turn to their man and yell in their
2:37:28
screetious voice, you did this to me. You you did this. And
2:37:35
that's fair enough. When they're in the process of labor, you can allow
2:37:37
them this kind of contingency because you know, because because they're in a quite
2:37:43
distressed situation. Yeah, yeah, But if they extend that beyond it,
2:37:50
into the future and indeed into the past, like yeah, you don't get
2:37:56
that contingency anymore once the pain is over or before the pain is of Like,
2:38:03
no, you don't. We have sympathy for you ladies during those moments
2:38:13
of of of the pain of childbirth, because we will never experience that.
2:38:18
But if you extend it beyond that, I mean, there's only so far
2:38:24
you can extend it beyond that before we go ahead and all right, all
2:38:26
right, you're not in hideous birth pains anymore. You did this to yourself.
2:38:31
I didn't rape you. Nobody raped you. Like at some point you
2:38:37
have to be like, yeah, I did this to myself. And it
2:38:39
sucks that human beings have the largest heads by ratio of pelvis of just about
2:38:48
any animal. On this planet, it's to make room for our damn egos.
2:38:54
That's yeah, nobody knows what came first, the large brains or the
2:38:58
large uses, or the large vaginas. Evolution, evolution has attempted to compensate
2:39:07
for whatever came first, and and and yeah, there comes a point where
2:39:13
you're like, yeah, yeah, you got to experience but you had to
2:39:18
experience pain for up to a couple of days. But yeah, if you're
2:39:24
going to make men experience a not similar pain, but a pain that goes
2:39:33
on for eighteen years, like I said earlier, yeah, the worst thing
2:39:39
a woman can experience is a couple of days of labor, and they have
2:39:41
ep durals and all manner of drugs to help them through it. But you're
2:39:46
you're able to make a man work for eighteen years to support this child of
2:39:52
yours, I mean of his, I mean the child that he didn't want
2:39:56
and somehow created. And and yet men don't get drugs to get them through
2:40:01
eighteen years of of hard labor. Well, they do, but all of
2:40:05
those drugs are illegal and expensive. So can men get some sympathy perhaps for
2:40:13
what they have to go through? Not because of biology, but because of
2:40:18
the legal system. I know, I know. Feminists love to ignore the
2:40:22
legal system when it suits them, and they love to win. They love
2:40:24
to ignore biology when it suits them. But this, this, this whole
2:40:30
fucking thread is a good example of women ignoring what men have to go through
2:40:35
legally because of what women have to go through biologically, and they don't.
2:40:41
By the way, they can still get an abortion. Abortions have not been
2:40:45
made illegal because of the overturning of reversus Wade. It's just that states can
2:40:52
no longer be forced to make doctors perform an abortion. Yeah, they're they're
2:41:00
looking at trying to change that with federal legislation now anyway, So we'll see
2:41:05
how that plays out. But in terms of in terms of agency, what
2:41:13
really what really gets me is she's not recognizing female behavior here. Let's look
2:41:24
at this next pairgraph. So she's talking about her argument taking the emotion out
2:41:30
of the abortion argument, and that placing the onus on men removes the discussion
2:41:39
about the procedure and the ethics, the philosophy, the religion, whatever,
2:41:46
and places it on prevention. If we talk about prevention, it removes all
2:41:52
emotion, as if we haven't been talking about prevention for years, because the
2:42:00
prevention that we were talking about was women's ability to prevent conception, Like she
2:42:07
talks about it like that conversation never happened. That conversation has been ongoing for
2:42:13
as long as prevention and abortion have both been available. And that's that's before
2:42:22
birth birth control pills existed. Right, you can prevent pregnancy without ever touching
2:42:31
hormonal birth control. And so this idea that it's on men and it's not
2:42:39
on women, I don't think that changes the conversation at all, because when
2:42:46
I argue with women on social media about this, one of the first things
2:42:50
they talk about is how birth control can fail. Now, they still make
2:42:56
the argument about men irresponsibly ejaculating, right, but they'll say condoms can fail.
2:43:03
So their argument is that when sex happens, the man shouldn't ejaculate.
2:43:13
I've run into that over and over again. It doesn't take the emotion out,
2:43:18
It brings the mean girls out. Yeah, how the hell didn't do
2:43:24
you make that happen any god damn way. I mean, once you're there,
2:43:31
there's no turning back. To quote, Those guys aren't into the whole
2:43:35
tantrick holding off things, so to quote, Billy Connolly from one of his
2:43:41
routines, the withdraw method is at the point of ejaculation, withdraw, and
2:43:50
he's like, that is the a packet of wild horses that could make my
2:43:56
ass go in that direction at the point of ejaculation. And then it's it's
2:44:03
a dumb argument anyway, because and there's such a thing as pre come.
2:44:09
There's there's, uh, you know, all kinds of reasons why withdrawing at
2:44:16
the point of exactulation doesn't necessarily prevent pregnancy. No matter which direction you're going,
2:44:24
right, the substance is going forward, and uh, if it comes
2:44:30
out with any force, withdrawing is not going to keep it off of her
2:44:35
flesh. Only one has to get in, you know, like it's unusual
2:44:41
for that to happen, but only one has to get in, and that's
2:44:45
all it takes to form conception. So yeah, her her argument is shit.
2:44:52
And you know, she's like, the whole rest of this, I'm
2:44:56
not gonna go through every aspect, but she's nothing abortion opponents are arguing for
2:45:01
is actually reducing abortions. It's because women have no agency in society. Women
2:45:07
are not accountable for their actions. If women were held accountable for their choices,
2:45:16
and we're not given the sympathy of, well, you know you need
2:45:22
to have this abortion because this pregnancy was inflicted upon you, then we would
2:45:26
we would have a better situation. If you want to talk prevention, teach
2:45:31
women. Teach girls in special or in sex side class. Teach girls that
2:45:41
they have all kinds of methods and birth control and they can say no and
2:45:46
they can use a different hole. They don't have to get pregnant from sex,
2:45:50
that's it. And teach them that it's their responsibility to determine what goes
2:45:56
into their uterus and whether they allow it to live along enough to fertilize an
2:46:00
egg. Right, she says, Oh, I've experienced pregnancy and I didn't
2:46:07
enjoy it, Like that's irrelevant. Again, I did it over and over
2:46:13
again. Then it's on you to prevent it. Yeah, right. If
2:46:20
abortions go down, it would also signal that men are not treating women's body
2:46:26
bodies so casually. Women who complain about this really really surprised me, Like,
2:46:33
do you know the reason that you view him as treating your body casually?
2:46:39
His treatment of your body is not the only casual treatment, right,
2:46:45
You're saying, he treats your body casually. But everything that he thinks is
2:46:50
okay is because you treat your body casually. If I'm a cop, right
2:47:00
and I go into high crime territory, get into a gunfight with with criminals
2:47:07
and I get shot because I didn't wear my bulletproof vest, it's my fault
2:47:16
that I didn't wear the vest. Even if it's their fault they shot me,
2:47:22
it's my fault they had access. It's your fault. Seman gets into
2:47:28
your uterus. Even if it's his fault that he stuck his dick in your
2:47:33
vagina, it's your fault that he had access. You know, as long
2:47:39
as it's consensual sex we're talking about, it's your fault that he had access.
2:47:45
It's your fault the semen had access. It's your fault that you didn't
2:47:48
kill it with chemicals in your vagina or out just outside the cervix. Right
2:47:56
that those are things you can do, you chose not to do them.
2:48:01
It just that bugs the shit out of me. Stop blaming somebody else.
2:48:09
And that's that's basically her take. I'm not gonna the rest of it.
2:48:13
They're getting into their religious stuff. I don't I don't want to get into
2:48:16
the religious aspect of it, because, in my opinion, because we're talking
2:48:24
about an American making an argument in an American debate, religion doesn't matter.
2:48:31
Religion is not allowed to inform our law and policy, So I don't care
2:48:35
what her religious outlook on this. Is My biggest concern is she's defining femininity
2:48:43
and she's defining womanhood without making part of the standard for being a woman having
2:48:54
adult accountability. What differentiates us us from little girls? Is it the fact
2:49:03
that we grew tits? I had a friend in school it grew tits when
2:49:07
she was eight years old, said she sure wasn't an adult, right,
2:49:15
So it's not the fact that we grew tits. It's not that we got
2:49:18
taller, it's not that we got curvy. What differentiates us. What makes
2:49:24
us adults if not accountability and yet women and I've never seen anybody worked so
2:49:31
hard to avoid accountability as modern women. So there we go. That's that's
2:49:41
my take on this. Do you guys have any little anything to add,
2:49:46
any questions, any thoughts, because I'm not going any farther in the article.
2:49:52
It's late and we're tired. Okay, that's that's a good, good
2:49:58
answer, wrap it up, don't stick your dick and crazy guys. Yeah,
2:50:03
and it's late and yeah, yeah that's true. That is true.
2:50:11
And uh, if you don't know what crazy looks like, it's the woman
2:50:13
that made this argument. Mmm. So that's that's one one way, that's
2:50:20
what crazy looks like. So with that, let's let's get into the super
2:50:24
chats. We have Sour Vodka gave us two dollars Australian and said family court
2:50:30
is so biased against men. I copied that twice. It means I missed
2:50:37
one. I'm gonna go back to see if I can see that one again.
2:50:46
Okay, so we have beyond that. Scrolling back down here we go.
2:50:54
Uh, yeah, there's family court. So the next one. Sour
2:50:58
Vodka gave us two dollars Australian and said, I appreciate the women badgers absolute
2:51:03
mr, and I think we appreciate you as well, Thank you very much.
2:51:09
Sauer Vodka gave us two dollars Australian and said more PET shelters than four
2:51:13
men. Regarding DV I'm not sure what pet is. Then we have Master
2:51:20
Rogue gave us five dollars and said I possessed memories from my time in the
2:51:24
womb, So life is definitely in the womb. And then let's see how
2:51:31
I would love to say, yeah, I know, I would let this
2:51:35
hear what that was like. That's an interesting type amount, like I possessed
2:51:39
memories from when I was eighteen months old. But it's because I had a
2:51:45
near death experience. And trauma fixes things in your head, like you remember
2:51:50
those I've had trips where I felt like I was in the womb and that
2:51:56
I was experiencing uh past trauma. Yeah, do people get PTSD from being
2:52:03
born? If you remember it hard enough, I would argue that people do
2:52:09
have PTSD from being circumcised. Well yeah, yeah, but it's not the
2:52:15
same as being born. If everyone got PTSD from being born, we'd all
2:52:18
be as fucked up as a army veteran. Yeah, let's see we have
2:52:28
let's see. Yeah, no salmon king. I'm not that tired, but
2:52:33
these guys might be. I didn't work all day to day. I slept
2:52:37
for like three hours today. And PET as in animals. Eric Bruner says,
2:52:43
that's that's possible. This was Capital PET and it's in Australia. So
2:52:48
I don't know Richard. Oh this is this is from last week. I
2:52:52
missed a super chow from Richard br last week, so I'm gonna read it
2:52:56
today. He says he gave us five dollars and said, remember when they
2:53:01
used to have the grocery Bagger Olympics where one contest was to pack a bag
2:53:05
which would be cut away and the best scores were to the package arrangement that
2:53:11
wouldn't fall over upon removing the bags. That was on television. I do
2:53:16
kind of remember that. Yeah, that's that's pretty cool. And I mean,
2:53:20
you can you can make anything into a competitive skill, and when you
2:53:28
do that, it makes men want to work harder at it. So that
2:53:33
does kind of a neat thing in my opinion because it gives the you know,
2:53:39
the boys. It's most it was mostly underage and like college age guys
2:53:48
that we're doing that job. So let's see today is the thirty first.
2:53:52
I'm scrolling and scrolling because there's been a lot of super chows and that's good.
2:54:00
Let's see. So today at seven fifty or at No. Seven o
2:54:07
five pm is where I'm going to start, because yeah, there we go.
2:54:09
There's where he says, done Meredith g gave us five dollars and said,
2:54:15
HBr talk to seventy five honey for the Badgers. Tell um Nar gave
2:54:20
us one hundred dollars. Thank you very much for that. Tell um Nar
2:54:24
and says that story from Lauren of the young man who is going to be
2:54:26
potentially responsible and possibly face legal consequences reminded me of something. I'm not sure
2:54:35
how to pronounce the name. I think it's Emil E m I L.
2:54:39
Emile Durkheim came up with the difference between mechanical society and organic society. In
2:54:48
mechanical society, people are self sufficient, they do not live in close communities,
2:54:52
and therefore force is needed to keep society functioning, so laws are brutal,
2:54:58
public and rely on fright the individual into complying with social norms. In
2:55:01
organic society, people are more socially integrated and work together more closely due to
2:55:07
more complex economics ie. Industrialization, requiring close collaboration. So people have to
2:55:13
be nice to each other because we are economically dependent on each other as opposed
2:55:18
to living on a bunch of isolated farms, and laws are quote nicer,
2:55:24
focusing on repairing damage and more on effects on individuals rather than community. He
2:55:30
thought society was going from mechanical to organic due to population growth and more complicated
2:55:35
economies. However, in my opinion, it looks like we're going from organic
2:55:37
to mechanical, at least for men, by using the state to take men's
2:55:43
wealth and give it to women and incentivizing family break up. The law punishes
2:55:48
men harshly and publicly, even for doing nothing wrong nominally for the benefit of
2:55:54
the community. He wrote this back in the eighteen nineties, feminism in the
2:56:00
welfare state had yet to really take off. It breaks this process because if
2:56:05
you have to if you have access to excess welfare, you do not have
2:56:09
to work together with others, just complain to the state. That's an interesting
2:56:13
take, and it does fit the way men are treated in terms of responsibility
2:56:22
for any reproductive choice, any butt hurt over a break up, anything like
2:56:28
that. It's it's like our society exists to punishment for failing to satisfy women.
2:56:39
Yeah, sleep yass gave us five dollars but did not leave a message.
2:56:46
And that's the super chows I have had the let's see here, the
2:56:56
rumble thing was closed, So let's look at that real quick, see if
2:57:00
there's any and it's not showing me any paid comments on rumble, any paid
2:57:09
rants, although there's Mangatka ninety two says teach men not to coomb in quotes.
2:57:20
Could luck with that, and uh Oi can always says, damn memories
2:57:30
from the womb. That's intense. Well, a master rogue has clarified that
2:57:35
basically, it was very orangeish red. All sound was muffled. I tried
2:57:39
to analyze my surroundings to figure out where I was, and I saw a
2:57:43
hand's shadow and wanted to hug it in a nutshell, So it's it sounds
2:57:48
like momentary memories and that that sounds about right for what it would be because
2:58:01
there's some evidence of although depending on how far along I mean, that sounds
2:58:07
like a later term for light to be able to get through so you could
2:58:11
see color. I just I don't know how much light would be able to
2:58:16
get through, but I will tell you I my belly stretched when I was
2:58:22
pregnant to the degree that it was really weird. It was all forward,
2:58:28
so if you looked at me from behind, you thought maybe I gained a
2:58:31
little weight, not very much, and then I would turn sideways, and
2:58:35
I actually had people that hadn't seen me in a while. They'd see me
2:58:39
from behind and they'd be like, hey, Hannah, and then I'd turn
2:58:41
around and they'd be like whoa, Like whoa, what's going on with you?
2:58:48
You know? And then I'd be like, well, yeah, you
2:58:50
know, I'm about eight months and but yeah, and they've done. There's
2:58:56
been video in Utero that shows orange red colors, but it h I think
2:59:05
there's a light source inside that causes that. Master Roke says, I also
2:59:11
try to kick my surroundings to investigate it. I swear, I swear to
2:59:18
you guys. When I was pregnant, my son was in there playing soccer
2:59:20
or basketball like I was never still But anyway, so that's all the super
2:59:28
chat super chats uh and and super duper communications that I am aware of.
2:59:33
I don't think I've missed any this time, because I started at done and
2:59:39
went to the last one. So I'm gonna type done in a year,
2:59:43
and I'm gonna thank everybody for listening. Thanks to my two co hosts for
2:59:48
sticking out this long and very badly seasoned sausage the The the article was badly
2:59:56
seasoned. I think that that we got pretty spicy, well at least I
3:00:00
did. Maybe we got pretty spicy in our discussion. And thanks to everybody
3:00:05
who works in the background to make HBr talk happen. And good night all