Latest / The Skol Hop / The Vikings HANDLE the Texans, Purple Punishments Round 2, Vikings @ Packers look ahead | TSH Ep. 59
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the School Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. Were's
- 0:05Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
- 0:07Speaker 1: talking about the Vikings. Yeah, and we got episode fifty
- 0:10Speaker 1: eight n week. This week. We got hit pretty.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Hard with the Purple Punishment segment.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Yeah, but then we kind of recapped the Iowa Podcast
- 0:19Speaker 1: Awards last week. That was pretty fun. That was a
- 0:21Speaker 1: lot of fun. And what was more fun? Podcast awards
- 0:25Speaker 1: were fun for sure, but man, we got to recap
- 0:29Speaker 1: absolute drubbing by the Viking. Yeah, thirty seven over the Texans.
- 0:33Speaker 1: It was awesome.
- 0:33Speaker 2: That was amazing, And definitely we looked ahead to the well,
- 0:37Speaker 2: look ahead to the Packer game this coming week, and
- 0:41Speaker 2: finish it off with what did we talk about?
- 0:43Speaker 1: What did we finish it off with? We're you're gonna
- 0:45Speaker 1: ask me some kind of tough questions about, like, hey,
- 0:48Speaker 1: if Sam Darnold ends up being good, what do the
- 0:50Speaker 1: Vikings do long term? Do they keep JJ McCarthy. You
- 0:54Speaker 1: kind of put me in a tough spot. It was
- 0:56Speaker 1: a difficult question to answer for sure.
- 0:57Speaker 2: And I pay off on what I didn't pay off
- 1:00Speaker 2: for the Purple Punishments last week in episode fifty eight.
- 1:03Speaker 2: So all that's coming up ahead, I can't wait.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go, let's go. All right, before we
- 1:32Speaker 1: get started today, we just wanted to give a quick
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- 1:58Speaker 1: All right, last week we bailed it.
- 2:00Speaker 2: We did the first week of our Purple Punishment segment,
- 2:05Speaker 2: and it was a lot of fun. I think the
- 2:08Speaker 2: people at the IOWA podcast towards where we recorded it
- 2:11Speaker 2: had some fun. I it was pointed out very fairly
- 2:16Speaker 2: that I owe what was it thirteen?
- 2:18Speaker 1: Push up?
- 2:19Speaker 2: I think thirteen is the official number because we couldn't
- 2:21Speaker 2: say the word Vikings last week because we both predicted
- 2:24Speaker 2: a Vikings lost to the forty nine ers. The Wheel
- 2:27Speaker 2: of Purple punishments dictated that we had to do ten
- 2:30Speaker 2: push ups each time we said vikings, which was pretty funny.
- 2:34Speaker 2: You blew it like ten seconds in.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was so embarrassing. I waited a
- 2:38Speaker 1: few minutes, but we still both did what thirty forty
- 2:40Speaker 1: push ups each? I said vikings twice at.
- 2:44Speaker 2: One point, but only on one point did ten push
- 2:47Speaker 2: ups for one. So it was pointed out by a
- 2:49Speaker 2: YouTube commenter that I still owe ten, And it was
- 2:51Speaker 2: pointed out by another commenter and maybe even me during
- 2:54Speaker 2: the episode last week that at one point I only
- 2:57Speaker 2: did like seven push ups instead of the full ten,
- 2:59Speaker 2: so I owe thirteen, which we will add that in
- 3:03Speaker 2: maybe at the beginning of the episode the end somewhere
- 3:06Speaker 2: you will see me do the extra thirteen push ups.
- 3:09Speaker 2: I don't know why you would want to, but I'll
- 3:11Speaker 2: do it. I'll own up to it. We'll splice that in.
- 3:14Speaker 1: We gotta, you know, move cameras around and stuff so
- 3:16Speaker 1: that we can actually get footage of you're thirteen.
- 3:19Speaker 2: You're making up, so keep your eyes peeled and that
- 3:21Speaker 2: may even show up specially on like TikTok or something.
- 3:24Speaker 2: But all that to say right now is time for
- 3:27Speaker 2: purple punishments.
- 3:28Speaker 1: We gotta spin it again. Man, we gotta do it
- 3:31Speaker 1: because we both picked the Vikings to lose against the Texans.
- 3:34Speaker 1: They want to. They didn't just win beat the Texans.
- 3:39Speaker 2: It wasn't a nail bier, it wasn't a lucky win.
- 3:41Speaker 2: And we'll talk about all this here coming up. But man,
- 3:45Speaker 2: they beat the Texans and I couldn't be more happy
- 3:48Speaker 2: to have to spin this wheel. We're mostly prepared for
- 3:51Speaker 2: everything on the wheel. It'll be exciting, Evan. Whenever you're
- 3:54Speaker 2: ready spin that wheel. Be sure we want to do this? No,
- 3:57Speaker 2: but I hope it's something spicy or something I don't know.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Here we go, Oh, I forgot about the sound effects.
- 4:03Speaker 2: What's it gonna say? Well, okay, So for our listeners,
- 4:10Speaker 2: if you want to watch this whole excitement, go down
- 4:12Speaker 2: check us out. You can watch it on Spotify and
- 4:15Speaker 2: definitely on YouTube, and we always clip stuff out anyways
- 4:18Speaker 2: too on YouTube and stuff, but even TikTok you can
- 4:21Speaker 2: watch the whole episode. But I digress our punishment this week.
- 4:26Speaker 2: You can see Evan putting it on right now. We
- 4:28Speaker 2: have to wear socks on our hands for the entire episode.
- 4:32Speaker 1: I gotta take my watch off. Oh yeah, all.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Right, but Evan, I brought some like regular you know,
- 4:40Speaker 2: old tube socks. You've got the cool Viking socks. We're
- 4:43Speaker 2: definitely rocking socks and stock at school, so it'll be
- 4:47Speaker 2: the whole episode.
- 4:49Speaker 1: So I can't work my computer. Hang on, I need
- 4:53Speaker 1: to do at least one thing here. This is this
- 4:57Speaker 1: is not good.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Oh man, do you have a mouse or something that
- 4:59Speaker 2: you can you can plug in because.
- 5:01Speaker 1: You might have to do that. I might have to
- 5:02Speaker 1: do that. You usually just do the track that all right.
- 5:04Speaker 1: We're both My hands are gonna get warm, yeah, and
- 5:07Speaker 1: we're both rocking the Viking socks on our hands and
- 5:11Speaker 1: we haven't opened our beers. We haven't done anything else
- 5:14Speaker 1: for this episode yet, so this being interesting, this is
- 5:18Speaker 1: going to be this is gonna be really interesting. Well,
- 5:22Speaker 1: you brought the beer today. I did, but we actually
- 5:25Speaker 1: went to this brewery while we were in Cedar Rapids
- 5:28Speaker 1: for the podcast wards. It was pretty good experience. Yeah,
- 5:30Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. There.
- 5:32Speaker 2: When we walked in, there was another group in there,
- 5:34Speaker 2: but it was a Sunday afternoon football the what three
- 5:37Speaker 2: o'clock games are on? Yep, that other group left pretty quick.
- 5:40Speaker 2: We sat up at the bar and the bartender was
- 5:42Speaker 2: really cool. He was a forty nine Ers fan, unfortunately
- 5:45Speaker 2: for him, but he was really cool. I forget his name.
- 5:48Speaker 2: I feel bad. If you have any watching, let us
- 5:51Speaker 2: know what your name was. You're pretty sweet. Yeah, it
- 5:54Speaker 2: was a good time. I enjoyed it, and we decided
- 5:56Speaker 2: to get a six pack for a future episode, which
- 5:59Speaker 2: ended up being this one. I'm excited to see how
- 6:01Speaker 2: we open these cans.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Yeah, so we ended up with the Eagle Amber Lagger
- 6:06Speaker 1: from Iowa Brewing Company based out of Cedar Rapids Amber Lagger,
- 6:11Speaker 1: which is definitely something up my alley for sure. But
- 6:14Speaker 1: I dropped this can. I think we both tried this
- 6:17Speaker 1: beer while we were there, so yeah, I may have
- 6:19Speaker 1: had a glass or too, I can't remember, but the
- 6:22Speaker 1: bartender was.
- 6:23Speaker 2: He was giving us a few samples here and there,
- 6:25Speaker 2: so I don't remember everything he let us try.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember what I actually had and what
- 6:29Speaker 1: I sampled, but everything I had there was really really good.
- 6:32Speaker 1: So we need to crack these open as best we can't. Oh,
- 6:37Speaker 1: I got it. Oh No, I might have to have
- 6:39Speaker 1: you helped me, but I got I got beer all
- 6:41Speaker 1: over my thumb. There you go. Oh you got it too.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Oh no, I thought my beer was going to explode
- 6:47Speaker 2: there for a second. If you just tuned in or
- 6:49Speaker 2: if you're just now watching on the beer segment that
- 6:52Speaker 2: we're putting out on YouTube Purple Punishments this week, we
- 6:56Speaker 2: both predicted of Vikings lost to the Texans.
- 6:58Speaker 1: They won.
- 6:59Speaker 2: We spun the wheel couple punishments, and now we have
- 7:01Speaker 2: to wear socks in our hands for episode fifty nine
- 7:03Speaker 2: of the Skull Hot. Yeah, Evan, I almost dropped this
- 7:07Speaker 2: can a couple of times before I opened it with
- 7:10Speaker 2: these socks on. You're you're actually doing a really good
- 7:12Speaker 2: poor right there.
- 7:13Speaker 1: That's a classic Austin poor mostly head.
- 7:18Speaker 2: I'm terrified of starting it.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I just gotta go for it. I
- 7:23Speaker 1: gotta go for it. Okay, this is hilarious. My kids
- 7:27Speaker 1: will think this is the funniest thing. I'm just gonna
- 7:30Speaker 1: open another one, I think, while we're in it, while
- 7:32Speaker 1: we're here, and then we just hopefully won't have to
- 7:35Speaker 1: do this again for a while.
- 7:38Speaker 2: So again, these are the Amber Lagger Eagle Amber Lager
- 7:42Speaker 2: from the Iowa Brewing Company in Cedar Rapids. I don't
- 7:46Speaker 2: know if they have other locations there. That place is
- 7:48Speaker 2: really cool.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I like that brewery a lot, cool environment.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously we had a handful of their beers.
- 7:54Speaker 2: They were really cool.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same.
- 7:57Speaker 2: I'm gonna pour another can to avoid having to pour
- 8:02Speaker 2: it again later.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I will say this is somewhat better. It's not way better,
- 8:08Speaker 1: but somewhat better than not being able to say the
- 8:10Speaker 1: word vikings on a Viking podcast. That was tough.
- 8:13Speaker 2: That did make for some comedy though. If you enjoyed that,
- 8:16Speaker 2: let us know.
- 8:17Speaker 1: It was also fun to do that with a live audience, Yeah,
- 8:20Speaker 1: to kind of laugh along with us as we were
- 8:23Speaker 1: we were doing that.
- 8:24Speaker 2: And we'll kind of recap the IOWA Podcast Awards a
- 8:27Speaker 2: little bit later here, but yeah, that was that was
- 8:29Speaker 2: entertaining and I'm glad that our my lack of physical
- 8:35Speaker 2: peakness can can give people some some laughs.
- 8:38Speaker 1: That was fun. All right, let's try these beers. We
- 8:42Speaker 1: should be able to at least pick up the mug.
- 8:45Speaker 1: It's the can that's the tough part.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Yeah, but these these socks are making things slippery. Yes,
- 8:50Speaker 2: this this has to be podcast gold right now? Okay, yeah,
- 8:53Speaker 2: all right, school.
- 8:54Speaker 1: School Mmm Yeah, that's delicious. It's a good amber. You
- 9:03Speaker 1: can't go wrong with it in my opinion. So yeah,
- 9:06Speaker 1: oh he said it's one of if I remember it,
- 9:08Speaker 1: he said, the amber is one of their more popular bruise. Yeah,
- 9:12Speaker 1: it's it's pretty pretty clear.
- 9:16Speaker 2: It's not you know, crazy hazy or super dark amber.
- 9:20Speaker 2: It's definitely an amber. It's got that nice I don't know.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Is it a multi flavor is how you would describe it.
- 9:26Speaker 2: It's definitely like a beer's beer. So it's not trying
- 9:30Speaker 2: to do too much. We've had a few beers recently
- 9:32Speaker 2: other than the Caramel Apple fan Dango, but even that,
- 9:35Speaker 2: like you said, it was doing too much, but it
- 9:37Speaker 2: was doing it well.
- 9:38Speaker 1: In all the right ways.
- 9:39Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is a solid amber that
- 9:42Speaker 2: just wants to be a solid amber. It hits all
- 9:45Speaker 2: the marks. I'm going i PA's ambers and maybe sours
- 9:49Speaker 2: after that. So I like ambers. This is this is
- 9:51Speaker 2: doing it. This rival is the Five Cities crushing on
- 9:54Speaker 2: Amber that we tried last week. Yeah again, thank you
- 9:56Speaker 2: Five Cities for riding the beer last week. But yeah,
- 10:00Speaker 2: Iowa Iowa Brewing Company, this is this is really good.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Good stuff and the only unfortunate thing about it is
- 10:06Speaker 1: we have to pour it with socks on our hands.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Watched this be the first like beer review video that
- 10:11Speaker 2: we get to go viral and people.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Are like, what are you doing with the socks? Why
- 10:15Speaker 1: are you with socks here? This is what we do
- 10:18Speaker 1: here at the skull Hot Oh yeah, there it is
- 10:22Speaker 1: all right? Man, that was fun.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the end of this episode when
- 10:28Speaker 2: we can take these socks off.
- 10:29Speaker 1: But we got a whole episode to go. We just started.
- 10:32Speaker 1: My hands are already sweating. I feel like Ricky Bobby.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what to do with my hands.
- 10:37Speaker 1: They are warm. All right, We should probably start by
- 10:40Speaker 1: doing a quick recap of the podcast Awards. That's where
- 10:44Speaker 1: we were last week, episode fifty eight. We recorded live
- 10:48Speaker 1: on set there at the IOWA Podcast Awards. That was
- 10:51Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Yeah, what was your favorite part
- 10:52Speaker 1: of that experience? Just the whole day. I loved meeting people.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I think I said excuse me, oh man, I'm burpen
- 11:01Speaker 1: excuse me. I think I said it on last week's episode.
- 11:05Speaker 1: I was surprised to learn that at the time there's
- 11:07Speaker 1: like six hundred Iowa based podcast and while not all
- 11:11Speaker 1: six hundred were there at the Iowa Podcast Awards. There
- 11:14Speaker 1: were quite a few like especially at the awards ceremony
- 11:18Speaker 1: in the evening, but during the day we got to
- 11:19Speaker 1: like interact with a few other podcast hosts. I think
- 11:23Speaker 1: we've mentioned it before, the guys from the k Love
- 11:26Speaker 1: You By podcast. They're in like north Northwestern in Northwestern. Yeah.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeremy is the only name I remember because he
- 11:37Speaker 2: sat with us for a little while watching the Vikings game.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Those guys were really cool. They sat and they were
- 11:42Speaker 2: the only ones to sit and watch our entire live podcast.
- 11:46Speaker 1: That was really cool. And they even mentioned us. They
- 11:49Speaker 1: released an.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Episode on their podcast today or something recapping the Iowa Podcastwards.
- 11:54Speaker 2: They kind of talked about us for a few minutes,
- 11:56Speaker 2: which thanks guys.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Yeah, you're very complimented, compliment very complimentative, whatever that word is,
- 12:02Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say. Complimentary.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had fun meeting those guys, the guys
- 12:07Speaker 2: from the mainstream podcast what other podcasts?
- 12:11Speaker 1: All good stories, all good stories. Yeah. I've got a
- 12:13Speaker 1: good friend Chris, that's one of the two guys on
- 12:17Speaker 1: that podcast. It was fun to hang out with him
- 12:19Speaker 1: for a little bit.
- 12:20Speaker 2: I actually since then checked out the first episode of
- 12:23Speaker 2: their podcast talking about Mowana.
- 12:25Speaker 1: It was pretty good.
- 12:25Speaker 2: They do a good job, and really all of them
- 12:27Speaker 2: do a great job the whole the whole show, the
- 12:31Speaker 2: awards ceremony. Yeah, we didn't didn't end up winning anything,
- 12:35Speaker 2: but we didn't really expect to. It was just a
- 12:38Speaker 2: lot of fun. Also, shout out to the washed Up
- 12:40Speaker 2: walk Ons for winning Best Sports Podcast. Once I heard
- 12:43Speaker 2: they were a competitor in the sports category, I knew
- 12:46Speaker 2: for sure they were gonna win it, which.
- 12:48Speaker 1: They deserve to. They did a good job.
- 12:50Speaker 2: But yeah, Evan, what was your favorite part about that
- 12:52Speaker 2: whole experience?
- 12:53Speaker 1: Honestly, I think recording live was my favorite part. Of course,
- 12:57Speaker 1: I loved networking with all these other Iowa podcast creators
- 13:00Speaker 1: as well. We had a great experience that way. Met
- 13:03Speaker 1: a lot of really cool people. But I learned a
- 13:06Speaker 1: few things, just kind of as our kind of technical
- 13:09Speaker 1: guy here doing most of the production recording and all that.
- 13:13Speaker 1: It was fun to use some different equipment and fun
- 13:18Speaker 1: to just see a studio set up for that purpose,
- 13:23Speaker 1: and definitely was inspired by a lot of that. Yeah, cool,
- 13:27Speaker 1: and the the experience of just being there and recording
- 13:30Speaker 1: our episode was just it was a lot of fun.
- 13:33Speaker 1: I enjoyed it.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Yeah, we we had a conversation afterwards about the audio
- 13:38Speaker 2: recording equipment and looked up what it would cost for
- 13:42Speaker 2: us to purchase maybe not identically, but similar equipment, and
- 13:46Speaker 2: it would it would be a significant amount of time
- 13:49Speaker 2: for our big top venture sponsorship to add up to
- 13:53Speaker 2: what it would cost to buy that equipment. But until then,
- 13:55Speaker 2: until we get there, I think we.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Got a pretty good setup. We're not we're not ashamed
- 13:59Speaker 1: of being a budget friendly podcast, and it's been fun
- 14:03Speaker 1: for us to get started on pretty much nothing like
- 14:06Speaker 1: I had a lot of this equipment just sitting around,
- 14:08Speaker 1: and we've just kind of pieced things together as we go.
- 14:11Speaker 1: So anyways, all that to say, IOWA Podcast Awards, it
- 14:14Speaker 1: was a really good time. I think we both enjoyed it.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I was extremely tired when I got home. Me too.
- 14:20Speaker 1: I'm very glad I took the day off of work
- 14:22Speaker 1: the next day to just like sleep in and recover
- 14:25Speaker 1: a little bit. But I would go back next to you.
- 14:28Speaker 1: I would love to.
- 14:29Speaker 2: I think if they invite us back to do another
- 14:31Speaker 2: live episode, I'd be up for that one hundred percent.
- 14:34Speaker 2: I'd love if we got the chance to be nominated
- 14:37Speaker 2: for stuff again. It was the first annual, so hopefully
- 14:40Speaker 2: they keep it going because they did a really good
- 14:41Speaker 2: job with that performance and the whole show altogether.
- 14:44Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah, yeah, lots of fun. Well, the
- 14:47Speaker 1: reason we spun the wheel, the reason we're wearing socks
- 14:50Speaker 1: on our hands right now. It's cool. The most muted
- 14:52Speaker 1: high five we've ever had is because our Minnesota Vikings
- 14:58Speaker 1: demolish the living crap out of the Houstons. It was
- 15:03Speaker 1: such a good game. We both preseason picked that this
- 15:07Speaker 1: game would be a loss for the Vikings and that
- 15:10Speaker 1: was the impetus for spinning the wheel. That's why we're
- 15:13Speaker 1: wearing socks on our hands. But I will take it
- 15:16Speaker 1: because the Vikings are three and O man three and
- 15:18Speaker 1: freaking O. Who to thunk? Neither of us thought ni
- 15:21Speaker 1: we had him at one and two. We're pretty public
- 15:24Speaker 1: with what our predictions were. We both had him at
- 15:26Speaker 1: one and two, and I couldn't be happier to be wrong.
- 15:30Speaker 2: I also couldn't be happier to have a lot of
- 15:34Speaker 2: people be wrong about Sam Darnold. He's lighting it up,
- 15:38Speaker 2: he is looking great. He is definitely feeding into the
- 15:43Speaker 2: narrative that this Vikings team is the best chance he's
- 15:45Speaker 2: ever had to be a starter on a good team
- 15:48Speaker 2: with good weapons, and the Vikings don't even have all
- 15:50Speaker 2: of the best weapons available. You're still missing Addison pretty
- 15:53Speaker 2: much the whole season and TJ. Hockinson, and they're still
- 15:57Speaker 2: looking great. It's so much fun, haven't blast? I guess
- 16:01Speaker 2: I don't know what else is there to say.
- 16:04Speaker 1: The other thing I think you need to say is
- 16:06Speaker 1: this defense is lights out, Like, so they're so good.
- 16:13Speaker 1: How many sacks do they have through three games? So?
- 16:16Speaker 2: They had five against the Texans, I'm pretty sure they
- 16:18Speaker 2: had six against the Niners, and I think it was
- 16:22Speaker 2: even still five again against the Giants.
- 16:25Speaker 1: So we're sitting at sixteen sacks right now through three games. Yeah,
- 16:29Speaker 1: I think I saw sat and I don't remember the
- 16:31Speaker 1: exact stat, but it's something like the Vikings are the
- 16:33Speaker 1: first team in a long a while to start the
- 16:36Speaker 1: season with five sacks in each of the first three games.
- 16:40Speaker 1: I remember the tweet you're referencing, and I don't remember
- 16:42Speaker 1: which teams. It was maybe like an early two thousands
- 16:45Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens team or something, but it was like it's
- 16:48Speaker 1: been twenty years, twenty five years. Yeah, since the Vikings
- 16:52Speaker 1: or any team for that matter, have been that stout
- 16:55Speaker 1: on defense. This defense has been a lot of fun
- 16:57Speaker 1: to watch. And it's not one guy, it's everybody. That's
- 17:01Speaker 1: the thing.
- 17:03Speaker 2: It's kind of been like a different superstar every week.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Who was it?
- 17:09Speaker 2: The first week, Van Ginkel was kind of the guy
- 17:12Speaker 2: that was flashing everywhere against the Giants, even Ivan Pace too.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Against the Niners, it was Blake Cashman, he seemed to
- 17:20Speaker 2: be everywhere, and then against the Texans it was shoot,
- 17:23Speaker 2: who was it? Jonathan Grenard, he was kind of flashing everywhere.
- 17:27Speaker 2: He got three sets itself. Yeah, it's just a different guy.
- 17:30Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of like the peak Bill
- 17:34Speaker 2: Belichick Patriots days, where like that was more on offense.
- 17:37Speaker 2: They would have like a different random like running back
- 17:40Speaker 2: get like one hundred and fifty yards receiving out of nowhere,
- 17:43Speaker 2: and then the next week it was another guy getting
- 17:46Speaker 2: like at two hundred yards rushing like you just never
- 17:48Speaker 2: know what the poison's gonna be. And it's really exciting
- 17:51Speaker 2: to watch.
- 17:52Speaker 1: So we started this last week at the Podcast Awards.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Let's continue our roses and thorns segment. So rose being
- 18:00Speaker 1: something good, a thorn being something bad. What were your
- 18:03Speaker 1: roses and thorns this week? From the Vikings beating the Texans.
- 18:07Speaker 1: How about how about we both do our roses and
- 18:09Speaker 1: then both do our thorns. All right, I'm giving you
- 18:12Speaker 1: a thumbs up, but you can't see that. It's just
- 18:14Speaker 1: a man we're wearing.
- 18:15Speaker 2: My hands are so warm, right, and my forearms are
- 18:19Speaker 2: like super itchy. It's it's exciting. It's definitely a purple
- 18:23Speaker 2: punishment for comfortable. Anyways, my rose is that every week
- 18:30Speaker 2: they're just getting rid of the excuses. The excuse against
- 18:35Speaker 2: the Vikings after the Giants game was, yeah, the Giants
- 18:38Speaker 2: beat up on or the Vikings beat up on the Giants.
- 18:41Speaker 2: The Giants are an awful team. Of course they're going
- 18:43Speaker 2: to beat up on that. It'd be weird if they
- 18:45Speaker 2: didn't beat up on the Giants. So that's that's why
- 18:48Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith knocked them down that week. And then
- 18:52Speaker 2: the excuse against the Niners was, yeah, they don't have
- 18:56Speaker 2: Christian mccaff and you know it's it's which is one game,
- 19:00Speaker 2: it's a fluke, you know, it's they were at home.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Of course they were going to look good. It's not
- 19:04Speaker 2: like they dominated. That was the excuse that week, But
- 19:07Speaker 2: I mean three.
- 19:09Speaker 1: In a row.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Now, the Texans are a good team. They're a very
- 19:13Speaker 2: good team. And they're still in that point where people
- 19:16Speaker 2: are picking them early in the season to be Super
- 19:18Speaker 2: Bowl favorites or at least deep playoff favorites. And what's
- 19:23Speaker 2: the excuse. Why why did the Vikings suck this week?
- 19:27Speaker 2: They didn't because they demolished thirty four to seven the Texans,
- 19:32Speaker 2: who are a league favorite so far. So my rose
- 19:35Speaker 2: is that they're just getting rid of the excuses and
- 19:38Speaker 2: people just have to say, darn it, the Vikings are
- 19:40Speaker 2: actually a good team. Yeah, I think I definitely agree
- 19:44Speaker 2: with you one hundred percent.
- 19:47Speaker 1: I think the rose for me is that it seems
- 19:50Speaker 1: like I don't want to jinx anything not Conwood. It
- 19:55Speaker 1: seems like the Vikings have been freed from this curse
- 19:59Speaker 1: of like, oh being.
- 20:02Speaker 2: What did you do?
- 20:03Speaker 1: Evan? What did you just do? But you know what
- 20:05Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, right, And I'm not the first one
- 20:07Speaker 1: to say it. It's been said on Twitter and wherever else,
- 20:12Speaker 1: you know, after the game yesterday and throughout the day
- 20:15Speaker 1: to day, Like even I think our friend of the show,
- 20:18Speaker 1: Dustin Baker, has tweeted similar things, like, we just don't
- 20:20Speaker 1: know as Vikings fans, we don't know what to do
- 20:23Speaker 1: with a team like this. And I think, being the
- 20:25Speaker 1: lifelong Vikings fan that I've been following this team since
- 20:29Speaker 1: the mid nineties, when they went to the playoffs three
- 20:31Speaker 1: years and ago three years in a row, and went
- 20:35Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship twice in three years, Like, we
- 20:41Speaker 1: just we don't know what to do with this type
- 20:43Speaker 1: of success. And it doesn't seem like there's really anything
- 20:47Speaker 1: other than injury or other than something catastrophic standing in
- 20:52Speaker 1: the way of the Vikings, Like it's just everything's there
- 20:55Speaker 1: for him. And you mentioned it previously, even with some
- 20:59Speaker 1: key injury, I can't even like annunciate the number of
- 21:02Speaker 1: things I'm trying to say, Even with Jordan Addison out,
- 21:06Speaker 1: with t J. Hawkinson out, with Ivan Pace out this
- 21:09Speaker 1: last week, they still found a way to win. And
- 21:12Speaker 1: it wasn't just one guy on defense. It was all
- 21:15Speaker 1: these guys. And it's been a different guy every week.
- 21:17Speaker 1: And it's kind of been the same on offense. Justin
- 21:20Speaker 1: Jefferson hasn't like blown everybody out of the water. With
- 21:24Speaker 1: his stat lines. He's had really good games, but it's
- 21:28Speaker 1: not been like, oh my gosh, this guy's gonna set
- 21:31Speaker 1: the league record for yards or touchdowns or anything. It's
- 21:34Speaker 1: pretty Germaine stats for the far part. He'll pop off
- 21:38Speaker 1: a big game at some point. We all expect him
- 21:41Speaker 1: to do that. And the chemistry that he has with
- 21:43Speaker 1: Sam Darnold has been really fun to watch. But I'm
- 21:47Speaker 1: getting long winded. I think my rose is just the
- 21:50Speaker 1: fact that it seems like everything's there for the Vikings,
- 21:53Speaker 1: nothing is really standing in the way. Hopefully that stays
- 21:58Speaker 1: the same.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we have to have some thorns here.
- 22:02Speaker 2: I guess my thorn you mentioned that injuries kind of
- 22:06Speaker 2: don't seem like they're gonna affect this team, which they've
- 22:09Speaker 2: shown they've they've overcome some some decent injuries. But my
- 22:15Speaker 2: thorn is the injury scares that we got in this
- 22:17Speaker 2: Texans game. For a minute, it just seemed like the
- 22:21Speaker 2: breath got taken away from every Vikings fan when there
- 22:25Speaker 2: was that bang bang play where former Viking Daniel Hunter
- 22:30Speaker 2: went low on Sam Donald and they're really looking at
- 22:34Speaker 2: Donald's knee.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Now.
- 22:35Speaker 2: I also think that Daniel Hunter play he's not a
- 22:38Speaker 2: dirty player. I think I heard on KFA this morning
- 22:42Speaker 2: that this might have been Daniel Hunter's first roughing the
- 22:47Speaker 2: passer penalty, and he's been in the league for like
- 22:49Speaker 2: almost a Decade's rusher's surprising. Yeah, So whether that's one
- 22:55Speaker 2: hundred percent true or not, he's had very few of those.
- 22:57Speaker 2: He's not a dirty player, and he imediately like after
- 23:01Speaker 2: that play was like nah, I didn't mean he was
- 23:03Speaker 2: kind of shoved into him and it was just kind
- 23:06Speaker 2: of a situational play. It just happened to be low
- 23:09Speaker 2: on the quarterback. So no booing Daniel Hunter. He's still
- 23:13Speaker 2: a good guy, good former Viking, but that was a
- 23:16Speaker 2: thorn that maybe have this awesome, amazing season just get
- 23:21Speaker 2: deflated again by a huge quarterback injury. And then a
- 23:24Speaker 2: little bit later on Justin Jefferson he like jammed his
- 23:26Speaker 2: pinky or something. And after that, of course, he had
- 23:29Speaker 2: one pretty awful drop and then one what would have
- 23:33Speaker 2: been an amazing catch that he got his hands on
- 23:36Speaker 2: that he didn't ultimately catch it. So it's like, ah, man,
- 23:38Speaker 2: is that pinky bothering him? Like what's going on? But ultimately,
- 23:41Speaker 2: I think those injuries they came out today and said
- 23:44Speaker 2: Donald's good and there's no structural damage to his knee,
- 23:47Speaker 2: just a bruise. And Jefferson, I mean he came back
- 23:50Speaker 2: in and played and taped up his finger and he
- 23:52Speaker 2: was fine. So ultimately it's okay. But that's my thorn.
- 23:55Speaker 1: What about you? Well, before we get to my thorn,
- 23:58Speaker 1: another injury that I think is prettytant, but it's probably
- 24:01Speaker 1: under the radars. Brian O'Neill. I mean, he left the
- 24:04Speaker 1: game and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think
- 24:05Speaker 1: he came back. I don't know if he did or not.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I Quessenberry took over for him at right tackle, right tackle.
- 24:13Speaker 1: I was trying to think of the quarter too. Was
- 24:15Speaker 1: in the third maybe late third or early fourth, I
- 24:18Speaker 1: can't remember. But anyways, Yeah, Brian O'Neil went out too,
- 24:21Speaker 1: and I haven't seen or heard an update on him,
- 24:24Speaker 1: yeah today, So that would be that'll be an interesting
- 24:27Speaker 1: one to follow and could be even more of a
- 24:29Speaker 1: thorn than you know, a minor something or another to
- 24:33Speaker 1: Darnald or Jefferson.
- 24:35Speaker 2: The one thing about that is question Berry. Last season,
- 24:37Speaker 2: he made a couple of starts for Brian O'Neil as
- 24:41Speaker 2: consistent and great O'Neill is he has had. You know,
- 24:45Speaker 2: every season he seems to miss one or two, or
- 24:48Speaker 2: there was that one year where he missed quite a few,
- 24:51Speaker 2: quite a few games. But he's not a guaranteed seventeen
- 24:54Speaker 2: game starter. And that's okay, especially when Questenberry who's getting
- 24:58Speaker 2: up there. He can step in and at least play
- 25:02Speaker 2: as well as you need him to. It's not like,
- 25:05Speaker 2: oh no, we might as well not have a right
- 25:07Speaker 2: tackle out there. So yeah, I mean injuries. We say
- 25:12Speaker 2: they're not going to be scary, but they really could be.
- 25:15Speaker 2: And it's just lucky that the Vikings have a well
- 25:16Speaker 2: built roster with some quality depth.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Yes, there's a ton of depth, and that's exciting. My
- 25:22Speaker 1: thorn would be the kind of the antithesis to the
- 25:27Speaker 1: fast start. Vikings scored fourteen points right away, boom boom
- 25:33Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and then the second quarter was
- 25:35Speaker 1: really hard to watch. There were a ton of penalties.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Sam Darnold started to be pressured a lot by the
- 25:43Speaker 1: Texans defensive line, started to make some of those kind
- 25:46Speaker 1: of silly like oh, don't do that type of thing,
- 25:50Speaker 1: you know, And fortunately none of that cost the Vikings anything.
- 25:55Speaker 1: And the defense was playing so well. The Vikings defense
- 25:57Speaker 1: that is, was playing so well that it really didn't
- 26:00Speaker 1: matter because the Texans weren't going to put up points anyways. Yeah,
- 26:04Speaker 1: but that was still frustrating to see, Like you just
- 26:10Speaker 1: you got to think that this Vikings team is built
- 26:12Speaker 1: to the point where they can dominate wall the wall
- 26:17Speaker 1: beginning to end wire to wire and not have those
- 26:21Speaker 1: like really awkward drives where it's penalty ridden, mistake ridden.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Even in the fourth quarter, you have those JJ drops.
- 26:30Speaker 1: You have Donald still kind of, you know, making some
- 26:33Speaker 1: of those dumb plays where he's trying to force something
- 26:36Speaker 1: and he could just chuck it out of bounds or whatever.
- 26:40Speaker 1: I don't remember when this one happened, but there was
- 26:42Speaker 1: the one little like he just he snapped it and
- 26:45Speaker 1: knew the play was busted and he threw it down
- 26:47Speaker 1: in front of him and he was fortunate that he
- 26:49Speaker 1: didn't get a grounding. Oh yeah, yeah, I think Jalen
- 26:52Speaker 1: Naylor was running a route away from the ball, but
- 26:56Speaker 1: he was close enough that they didn't call it for grounding. Anyways,
- 27:01Speaker 1: It's those types of things that it's like, man, if
- 27:03Speaker 1: we're going to go the distance, if we're going to
- 27:05Speaker 1: take this thing to you know, the divisional round and
- 27:08Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game we got out. We got to
- 27:13Speaker 1: fix those things. Those things have to be they got
- 27:18Speaker 1: to be better. We've got to improve those things, Koc
- 27:22Speaker 1: Brian Flores. They've got to work with those guys on
- 27:26Speaker 1: how to handle those types of situations. The offensive line
- 27:31Speaker 1: has to be more disciplined, because I think there were
- 27:33Speaker 1: a few false starts in there. Granted, the Texans had
- 27:36Speaker 1: like four in a row. They literally had four penalties
- 27:39Speaker 1: in a row. At one point totally.
- 27:41Speaker 2: They were at like third and four in field goal range,
- 27:44Speaker 2: and then after four not even snaps, they were at
- 27:49Speaker 2: like third and nineteen with like definitely not in field
- 27:53Speaker 2: goal range anymore. That was the US Bank Stadium effect.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Yep. So that's my thorn though. It's just the like
- 27:59Speaker 1: the fast start and then all of a sudden, everything
- 28:01Speaker 1: just kind of hits a roadblock. And if our defense
- 28:06Speaker 1: keeps playing well, that's awesome. Oh yeah, but we may
- 28:10Speaker 1: not experience that all the time. And the offense has
- 28:14Speaker 1: to be sharp, and the offense has to be ready
- 28:16Speaker 1: to put up points whenever, not just fourteen points in
- 28:20Speaker 1: the first quarter, and then you know, another ten points
- 28:23Speaker 1: in the third quarter or whatever. Yeah, so yeah, you
- 28:27Speaker 1: mentioned the oh crap dumb penalties and dumb plays by Bradford,
- 28:32Speaker 1: that one where he like backward lateraled it.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Yeah, halfway across the field to Powell and it was
- 28:37Speaker 2: just nowhere near him, and Powell had the heads up
- 28:40Speaker 2: to like pick it up, scooped it up, and he
- 28:42Speaker 2: still ended up rushing for like seven a gain of
- 28:44Speaker 2: like seven yards. That play any other year for the
- 28:47Speaker 2: Vikings is like a scoop and score for the defense
- 28:50Speaker 2: against the Vikings.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's one of those things though, where it's
- 28:54Speaker 1: like stuff like that just doesn't happen to the Vikings.
- 28:56Speaker 1: And it happened in all the right ways the Vikings
- 29:00Speaker 1: in that game, which made this game fun to watch.
- 29:03Speaker 1: It's made all three of these first games really fun
- 29:06Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah. If it means we have to wear
- 29:07Speaker 1: socks on our hands every week, I'm here for it.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm sweating. Oh I'm itchy, I'm sweating. This
- 29:14Speaker 1: is better than eating a holopaenno for me, though I.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Would have been fine with a halo of peno. This
- 29:19Speaker 2: is better than doing push ups every five seconds.
- 29:22Speaker 1: An honorable mention for a rose, I think, and I
- 29:27Speaker 1: don't know, there are probably several others, but the doink in. Yeah,
- 29:31Speaker 1: you know, talking about things that just like the Vikings
- 29:34Speaker 1: just don't experience these kind of like lucky things like
- 29:39Speaker 1: Will reichord with. It was a fifty eight yard field
- 29:42Speaker 1: goal and it doinks off the right, upright and it
- 29:45Speaker 1: goes in. Like, I don't think I've ever seen a
- 29:47Speaker 1: field goal that donks off the upright and goes in. Yeah,
- 29:52Speaker 1: it tells you.
- 29:53Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of the Mighty Ducks where
- 29:55Speaker 2: the coach was like, yeah, when I was a kid,
- 29:58Speaker 2: I missed the game winning goal because it hit the
- 30:04Speaker 2: what the post for the hockey goal or whatever. And
- 30:07Speaker 2: one of the kids was like, yeah, but if you
- 30:09Speaker 2: were and he's like, if I was one inch, you know,
- 30:12Speaker 2: to the left, it would have gone in. The kid
- 30:13Speaker 2: was like, yeah, but if you were one inch to
- 30:14Speaker 2: the right, it would have been way off. And Will
- 30:16Speaker 2: recherd he was. He was just enough one inch to
- 30:19Speaker 2: the left to make that fifty eight yarder go in.
- 30:21Speaker 1: That was crazy, but good for him. He's got a
- 30:24Speaker 1: fifty eight yarder on his record and he's perfect. Yep.
- 30:27Speaker 2: And the distance that that specific kicked he boomed it. Yeah,
- 30:32Speaker 2: that would have been good from like sixty eight yard. Yeah,
- 30:35Speaker 2: Like I don't know, it would have been good.
- 30:36Speaker 1: For a while, it's been amazing, all right, Well, a
- 30:40Speaker 1: lot of really good things and a few not so
- 30:43Speaker 1: great things injuries, just you know, cleaning up penalties and
- 30:48Speaker 1: playing better. M hm. Who would you give game balls to?
- 30:53Speaker 1: All right?
- 30:53Speaker 2: So I kind of pre rode out my game ball.
- 30:56Speaker 2: So I think we're gonna do offense, defense, and special
- 30:58Speaker 2: teams game balls offense. I said it last week. Until
- 31:04Speaker 2: he throws a bunch of picks and loses a game
- 31:07Speaker 2: for the Vikings, as long as Sam Donald keeps playing
- 31:10Speaker 2: and looking the way he has been, doesn't even need
- 31:13Speaker 2: to throw for three hundred and three every week. Sam
- 31:18Speaker 2: Donald will get my offensive game ball every week as
- 31:21Speaker 2: long as he just looks the way he has so
- 31:23Speaker 2: this week, no different, Sam Donald, He's my offensive game ball.
- 31:27Speaker 1: Nice offense for me? Is that how we're doing this?
- 31:29Speaker 1: Sure defense defense offense? For me? I'm gonna go with
- 31:33Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor. Okay. I feel like Jalen Naylor is the
- 31:36Speaker 1: beneficiary of teams giving so much attention to justin Jefferson,
- 31:42Speaker 1: and he is shining in that role, and he is
- 31:46Speaker 1: shining in the absence of Jordan Natison. He's definitely stepped
- 31:50Speaker 1: into that wide receiver two role and he's played it
- 31:53Speaker 1: very well, and it'll be tough to to give that
- 31:59Speaker 1: up to Jordanadison. And I think I think you could
- 32:01Speaker 1: make the case that maybe he deserves to stay in
- 32:05Speaker 1: and maybe Jordan Addison's the three or the four for
- 32:08Speaker 1: a while. I don't know. I don't know how far
- 32:10Speaker 1: he falls down the depth chart and how you know,
- 32:13Speaker 1: his injuries to both ankles affect his return. But man,
- 32:17Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor has looked really good and when called upon,
- 32:21Speaker 1: he's there and he's open, and he makes the catches
- 32:24Speaker 1: and he's got what at least two touchdowns three he
- 32:26Speaker 1: scored a touchdown in every game so far. Yeah, Jalen
- 32:30Speaker 1: Naylor offensive game ball for me. Yeah, I like it.
- 32:32Speaker 2: And to all that point, I think it just takes
- 32:35Speaker 2: the pressure off of making sure Addison comes back as
- 32:38Speaker 2: fast as possible. You kind of get a little bit
- 32:40Speaker 2: of time and be like, hey, we don't not that
- 32:43Speaker 2: we don't need Jordan Addison, but we don't desperately need
- 32:47Speaker 2: him to get on to try and win a game.
- 32:50Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor is stepping in and.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Do it well. No urgency for him or TJ. Hawkinson
- 32:55Speaker 1: really to come back. The offense has managed pretty well
- 32:57Speaker 1: without him. When we get them back, it's just gonna
- 33:00Speaker 1: be gravy. It's cherry on top.
- 33:03Speaker 2: It's gonna be awesome, hopefully or hopefully it doesn't like
- 33:05Speaker 2: muddle the mojo of what's going on. But yeah, I can't.
- 33:09Speaker 2: I can't imagine it would. I think it can only
- 33:11Speaker 2: be good.
- 33:11Speaker 1: I think Koc is a phenomenal game caller, and when
- 33:16Speaker 1: he gets those weapons back in his arsenal, he'll know
- 33:18Speaker 1: exactly how to use them. He'll figure it out. He'll
- 33:21Speaker 1: make it happen.
- 33:21Speaker 2: All right, Defensive game ball, My defensive game ball is
- 33:25Speaker 2: not a starter. I'm gonna say his name wrong. You
- 33:28Speaker 2: can help me and correct me, because I think you've
- 33:30Speaker 2: got it down. Kamu Groosier, Grugier Hill. I think it's
- 33:35Speaker 2: Grugier Grugier. Yeah, Camu, we'll go with Commas. I'm pretty
- 33:39Speaker 2: sure I'm saying that right. He stepped in and started
- 33:42Speaker 2: in play viv and pace first play of the game. Yes,
- 33:45Speaker 2: it was tipped at the line, but he intercepted a CJ.
- 33:48Speaker 2: Stroud pass, which nobody since like last November, can say
- 33:52Speaker 2: they intercepted a c. J. Stroud pass until who wasn't
- 33:55Speaker 2: later in the day can't bind them also intercepted a
- 33:58Speaker 2: pass from CJ.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Stroud.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Kamu stepped in. I don't think he was wearing
- 34:03Speaker 2: the green dot. I think it was Blake Cashman, but
- 34:07Speaker 2: in a spot where you know, maybe you're not as
- 34:09Speaker 2: overly prepared to be the one of the starting inside
- 34:13Speaker 2: linebackers stepped in and immediately made a difference. So and
- 34:17Speaker 2: I think he was flying around all game. He definitely
- 34:19Speaker 2: knew what he was supposed to be doing. So yeah,
- 34:20Speaker 2: he's my defensive game ball. I'm given mine to Jonathan Grenard.
- 34:24Speaker 1: All Right, it's hard to argue with three sacks against
- 34:27Speaker 1: his former teagainst his former team.
- 34:29Speaker 2: Yeah, guys and coaches that should know all about this
- 34:31Speaker 2: guy and how to defend against him.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Yeah, he got the honor of being interviewed by Ben
- 34:36Speaker 1: Lieber after the game. I think if you're selected for
- 34:39Speaker 1: that interview, that's kind of a high and high praise
- 34:42Speaker 1: former Viking Ben Lieber on the field, and it's the
- 34:46Speaker 1: audios piped out to the whole stadium for whoever's left.
- 34:50Speaker 1: So anyways, three sacks. He played a great game. Obviously,
- 34:54Speaker 1: he was probably playing with a little bit of a
- 34:58Speaker 1: passionate chip on his shoulder to you know, kind of
- 35:01Speaker 1: prove it to his old team. But fun, fun to
- 35:03Speaker 1: watch and definitely deserving of a game ball.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. And after that it really matters.
- 35:10Speaker 2: And I just spent a few minutes earlier in this
- 35:12Speaker 2: episode praising former Viking Daniel Hunter. But Jonathan Gernard definitely
- 35:17Speaker 2: performed better than Hunter did. Which when you get beat
- 35:21Speaker 2: thirty four to seven, how many guys can you praise
- 35:24Speaker 2: on your team?
- 35:25Speaker 1: So yeah, it is nice that.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Our guy, our new guy, beat out the old guy
- 35:30Speaker 2: who is more expensive. And that's a topic, a whole
- 35:34Speaker 2: other topic for a whole other episode.
- 35:36Speaker 1: But yeah, I like that, all right. Last one, Special Teams.
- 35:39Speaker 2: All right, this one is mostly based on one play.
- 35:43Speaker 2: Brandon Powell is my special team's game Ball could easily say,
- 35:47Speaker 2: Will Rekerd could easily say, I think this is the
- 35:50Speaker 2: best game in a while for punter Ryan Wright. His
- 35:54Speaker 2: average was like his average in that game was like
- 35:57Speaker 2: twice as long as his average all last season. Ryan
- 36:00Speaker 2: Right had a good game, but Brian or Brandon Powell
- 36:04Speaker 2: on one punt return. It was a ball that was
- 36:06Speaker 2: obviously the Vikings were receiving. This ball was obviously going
- 36:10Speaker 2: to go into the end zone. Vikings would have had
- 36:12Speaker 2: a touch back, but there was at least one or
- 36:15Speaker 2: two Texan defenders that were coming up to potentially down
- 36:20Speaker 2: the ball deep inside the five and pin the Vikings back.
- 36:24Speaker 2: Powell kind of read it, knew what was going on,
- 36:27Speaker 2: saw the gunners coming down the field, tried to sell
- 36:30Speaker 2: that he was going to catch it a little bit beforehand,
- 36:33Speaker 2: but at the last minute he blocked the gunner to
- 36:36Speaker 2: make sure that the gunner, the Texan gunner, couldn't catch
- 36:39Speaker 2: the ball and down it deep inside the five. So
- 36:42Speaker 2: that's a heads up play. That's a play that shows
- 36:44Speaker 2: you he's well coached and knows the situation, even for
- 36:48Speaker 2: a guy that he's a wide receiver and he's not
- 36:50Speaker 2: wide receiver one, two, three or four, but he knows
- 36:53Speaker 2: how to play ball and he made a difference. That
- 36:56Speaker 2: was a difference making play in the game.
- 36:57Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we were texting at the moment. We'd
- 37:00Speaker 1: text through the whole game if we're not together, but
- 37:03Speaker 1: we were texting and you said something about how man
- 37:07Speaker 1: Brandon Powell just saved us getting the ball at the
- 37:09Speaker 1: one yard line or something, and I said, yeah, maybe,
- 37:12Speaker 1: but he may have also just prevented a like opportunity
- 37:14Speaker 1: for a ninety seven yard bomb down a field. So
- 37:18Speaker 1: you know there's give and take there, but definitely agree
- 37:20Speaker 1: with you. That was a heads up play by Brandon Powell.
- 37:22Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons why I think he's
- 37:24Speaker 1: still on this roster. He's just very aware of what's
- 37:28Speaker 1: going on and you need guys like that, and I
- 37:30Speaker 1: think he's earned his roster spot because of that. Absolutely,
- 37:34Speaker 1: I'm taking the easy route. I'm going with will the
- 37:36Speaker 1: thrill he earned it, will record he remains perfect on
- 37:39Speaker 1: the season, knock onwood, And yeah, I think I saw
- 37:44Speaker 1: a tweet today. It might have been Dustin Baker. But
- 37:48Speaker 1: the Vikings, you know, obviously watched a lot of players
- 37:52Speaker 1: walk out, including Greg Joseph, and it was kind of
- 37:55Speaker 1: a comparison of who left and who is now a Viking.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was on that list, and you gotta think
- 38:05Speaker 1: that Quasia Dolfa Menza has earned his keep so far
- 38:09Speaker 1: aster he's built and maybe earned himself a few more
- 38:14Speaker 1: years to stick around as the Vikings general manager, because
- 38:18Speaker 1: it's it's players like Will Reker that you acquire in
- 38:21Speaker 1: the draft that can be a difference maker in your program.
- 38:25Speaker 1: And man, that was it was fun to watch. He's
- 38:29Speaker 1: been fun to watch all season. He's hit every kick
- 38:31Speaker 1: he's kicked. He's looked decent on kickoffs. I thought, I
- 38:35Speaker 1: think we're still all adjusting to the new kickoff rule.
- 38:38Speaker 1: He did get a little bit of a false start,
- 38:41Speaker 1: so to see on the kickoff, he had to rekick
- 38:45Speaker 1: the kickoff because they weren't ready. I think there might
- 38:47Speaker 1: have been like the refs were like listening in their
- 38:49Speaker 1: earpiece for like if TV's ready, and I don't think
- 38:52Speaker 1: TV was ready, And so he kicked it anyways, and
- 38:56Speaker 1: they're like blow the whistle and plays dead. You gotta
- 38:59Speaker 1: kick it again. He had ever seen that before. That
- 39:02Speaker 1: was weird. The opening kickoff of the second half happened
- 39:06Speaker 1: the same way. Oh really, it wasn't the kicker like
- 39:09Speaker 1: prematurely kicked. But there I forget what happened, but that
- 39:12Speaker 1: kickoff had to be rekicked as well. I think it
- 39:15Speaker 1: was the first game I've ever watched where both has
- 39:18Speaker 1: started with a weird rekick situation. Yeah, kind of odd you.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Text me that, but anyways, Yeah, well, record great, he
- 39:27Speaker 2: was perfect. He has not, like you said, We've both
- 39:30Speaker 2: said it many times. Through three games of his NFL career,
- 39:33Speaker 2: he's been perfect, and honestly, outside of one blocked field
- 39:38Speaker 2: goal attempt in preseason, he's been perfect throughout preseason as well.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I guess I don't know how he's been in practice.
- 39:46Speaker 2: Obviously good, otherwise they wouldn't have kept him on the roster.
- 39:50Speaker 2: But yeah, and I know he was the first kicker
- 39:52Speaker 2: taken in the draft. He was like a fifth round pick,
- 39:54Speaker 2: which is pretty high for kickers. But I mean, if
- 39:58Speaker 2: he's the guy, if you can solidify your kicker position
- 40:02Speaker 2: comfortably for who knows how long kickers can play for
- 40:06Speaker 2: twenty years, if they really want to, then a fifth
- 40:10Speaker 2: round pick is well worth the price, especially since sometimes
- 40:13Speaker 2: you take a linebacker in the fifth.
- 40:14Speaker 1: Round or they even gonna make the team. You know,
- 40:16Speaker 1: like you got a kicker.
- 40:18Speaker 2: Kicker is an important position, and as Vikings fans, we
- 40:20Speaker 2: know we know how bad that kicking position can screw
- 40:24Speaker 2: over games.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Yes, I just found a very practical purpose for socks
- 40:28Speaker 1: on the hands while pouring a beer. It picks up
- 40:31Speaker 1: any of the dribble. It just soaks it up, kind
- 40:34Speaker 1: of like a towel. It's nice.
- 40:35Speaker 2: I have a little bit of a mustache and beard going.
- 40:38Speaker 2: And I did notice that I'm like wearing napkins, although
- 40:41Speaker 2: I made a critical error. These are not the fuzziest
- 40:45Speaker 2: socks in the world, but there's some fuzz to them.
- 40:48Speaker 2: For the last like fifteen minutes I've been fighting, there's
- 40:51Speaker 2: like a hair in my mouth and I can't I
- 40:53Speaker 2: can't get it. It's one of those if I tried,
- 40:56Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put thirty more hairs in my mouth
- 40:59Speaker 2: from this.
- 40:59Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you permission to take them off.
- 41:02Speaker 2: No, no, this is a part of the Purple punishments.
- 41:04Speaker 2: And I'm hoping maybe I can wash the hair down
- 41:07Speaker 2: or something. I don't know, but and maybe it's one
- 41:09Speaker 2: of my mustache hairs that like won't leave the faceback.
- 41:12Speaker 1: That final beer is open and get that going for sure.
- 41:16Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, this has been a fun Purple punishment, so.
- 41:19Speaker 1: It was a fun game as well. It was fun
- 41:22Speaker 1: to watch the vikings just absolutely beat up on what
- 41:25Speaker 1: is a pretty good football team, and I think that
- 41:30Speaker 1: can't be understated the fact that the Vikings have now
- 41:33Speaker 1: beaten the forty nine Ers and the Texans back to
- 41:36Speaker 1: back weeks, back to back weeks.
- 41:37Speaker 2: I think the only excuse people who are still Vikings
- 41:41Speaker 2: naysayers might say is, yeah, well that was at home
- 41:43Speaker 2: both weeks, which fair it is. There is such a
- 41:47Speaker 2: thing as home field advantage, and we saw it and
- 41:50Speaker 2: we talked about it earlier. With the multiple penalties back
- 41:52Speaker 2: to back for the Texans, pretty much suley because the
- 41:56Speaker 2: stadium was just going insane.
- 41:58Speaker 1: I wish we could have been there. It'd have been awesome.
- 42:00Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, that would have been crazy. I don't
- 42:03Speaker 2: think we would have gained our hearing back for a while.
- 42:06Speaker 2: But it will be nice to see in the next
- 42:08Speaker 2: game because they're going to Green Bay against a Packers
- 42:11Speaker 2: team that somehow has been undefeated since Jordan Love has
- 42:14Speaker 2: been out. But yeah, that'll be fun. At least they're
- 42:16Speaker 2: playing in Green Bay in the fall and not the winter.
- 42:20Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, it looks to be pretty nice, so we
- 42:24Speaker 1: can transition here while you carefully pour your beer with
- 42:28Speaker 1: socks on your hands again. A quick reminder just in
- 42:31Speaker 1: case you know you kind of skipped through and you
- 42:32Speaker 1: didn't watch the beginning. We're wearing socks on our hands.
- 42:35Speaker 1: We don't do this all the time. This is not normal.
- 42:37Speaker 1: In fact, we probably will never do this again because
- 42:39Speaker 1: hopefully this hasn't been very enjoyable. But we made preseason picks.
- 42:44Speaker 1: We both picked the Vikings to lose to the Texans.
- 42:47Speaker 1: The Vikings, in fact, did not lose to the Texans.
- 42:49Speaker 1: They beat up on the Texans, and so we spun
- 42:53Speaker 1: the wheel of purple punishments and here we are with
- 42:55Speaker 1: socks on our hands. That was the punishment for the day. Yep.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Last week it was push ups, ten push ups every
- 43:01Speaker 2: time we said the word Vikings, yes, which was.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Fun as well. So this is to me again, still
- 43:06Speaker 1: slightly better than doing ten push ups every time you
- 43:09Speaker 1: say Vikings. I agree. I was sore, Like my chest
- 43:12Speaker 1: was super sore for like the whole week.
- 43:14Speaker 2: And I was sick too, Like if you listen to
- 43:16Speaker 2: that episode, episode fifty eight, you might be able to
- 43:19Speaker 2: hear it in my voice, like, oh yeah, I was
- 43:21Speaker 2: dealing with something I after the Podcast awards, like I
- 43:26Speaker 2: fought like last week kind of sucked. I was sick
- 43:29Speaker 2: and being a guy that doesn't do push ups every day,
- 43:32Speaker 2: having that little bit of soreness in your upper body,
- 43:34Speaker 2: that just made it so much worse.
- 43:37Speaker 1: I just like to think we got a little bit
- 43:38Speaker 1: stronger there. Well, yeah, the Vikings are just letting us.
- 43:42Speaker 1: They're giving us opportunities to be bigger, faster, stronger. All right, Well,
- 43:46Speaker 1: let's let's transition here to looking ahead to the Vikings.
- 43:51Speaker 1: We've already mentioned it. They're going to Lambeau this coming Sunday,
- 43:54Speaker 1: September twenty ninth. It's a noon game, you just said it.
- 43:58Speaker 1: It's not a winter game, which is nice. It's nice
- 44:02Speaker 1: to play outdoors in those warmer months so we don't
- 44:05Speaker 1: have to worry about, you know, the weather affecting the
- 44:09Speaker 1: game too much. So that's exciting. Jordan Love looks like
- 44:14Speaker 1: he might be coming.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Back, yeah, which is crazy. You saw that video a
- 44:17Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Everybody did the slow mo one of
- 44:19Speaker 2: him being tackled against the Eagles at the end of
- 44:22Speaker 2: the week one game and his knee.
- 44:24Speaker 1: Like something seemed to pop.
- 44:25Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's like a weird that
- 44:27Speaker 2: wasn't actually his knee popping and it was like his
- 44:30Speaker 2: knee pad or something going on. But I mean, he's
- 44:32Speaker 2: been practicing. It seemed like he was going to be
- 44:35Speaker 2: questionable to play even this past week for the Packers
- 44:39Speaker 2: against who are they playing?
- 44:41Speaker 1: The Titans? Titans.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Ultimately he didn't play. Malik Willis made the start, and
- 44:47Speaker 2: who knew Malik Willis is actually looking pretty decent. He's
- 44:50Speaker 2: pretty mobile.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Honestly.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Yeah, we're Viking Spans, but we can recognize good coaching
- 44:55Speaker 2: and good teams when we see it. The Packers are
- 44:57Speaker 2: coached very well, and I think that's just what it
- 45:00Speaker 2: comes down to and why they've won the last two games.
- 45:03Speaker 2: I at this point would still take the Vikings overall
- 45:07Speaker 2: coaching staff and roster over the Packers, but I'm not
- 45:11Speaker 2: predicting a definite blowout win against the Packers. It'll definitely
- 45:15Speaker 2: be a game, I.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Agree, and it's a divisional rivalry. It's one that you know,
- 45:21Speaker 1: Vikings and Packers fans look forward to because it's such
- 45:25Speaker 1: a competitive rivalry over the years. But yeah, I'm excited
- 45:31Speaker 1: to watch it, and I don't know, I still feel like,
- 45:36Speaker 1: even though Vegas is betting against them right now, against
- 45:40Speaker 1: the Vikings, that is they're currently two and a half
- 45:42Speaker 1: point underdogs going into lambeau Field on Sunday. I like
- 45:46Speaker 1: the Vikings chances. I think Sam Darnold, you know, if
- 45:49Speaker 1: this is his injury is just minor and he's able
- 45:52Speaker 1: to kind of work through it. If they're able to
- 45:55Speaker 1: get Justin Jefferson's pinky finger figured out, you know, Brian O'Neill,
- 45:59Speaker 1: you get him back, Maybe Jordan Addison is fully healthy
- 46:02Speaker 1: and able to come.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Back, that he has a chance to play this week too.
- 46:06Speaker 1: He might be the biggest question mark of all of
- 46:08Speaker 1: those guys. But anyways, Yeah, I like the Vikings chances
- 46:14Speaker 1: and I think they can do it.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I guess keys to victory. I think
- 46:23Speaker 2: I've already kind of mentioned it. We both kind of
- 46:25Speaker 2: danced around. I think one difficult thing for Flores and
- 46:28Speaker 2: his defense is to be fully prepared to play against
- 46:32Speaker 2: Love and fully prepared to play against Milik Willis, who well,
- 46:37Speaker 2: Love has mobility and he's definitely a well rounded quarterback.
- 46:40Speaker 2: I don't think he's as good as everybody already claims
- 46:43Speaker 2: he is, but he's He's not terrible. Malik Willis has
- 46:47Speaker 2: shown his mobility and can change games and he had
- 46:51Speaker 2: a rushing touchdown and like more than fifty yards of
- 46:53Speaker 2: rushing last week. He's definitely talented in that area and
- 46:56Speaker 2: something you have to play it for. So I think, yeah,
- 46:59Speaker 2: the key is for the defense to be able to
- 47:04Speaker 2: defend effectively against either quarterback.
- 47:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree with that, and that question mark
- 47:11Speaker 1: definitely makes it more challenging throughout the week. You know,
- 47:15Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's going to have to keep his finger on
- 47:18Speaker 1: the pulse there and see what's happening. I think for
- 47:21Speaker 1: the Vikings it comes down to two simple things. Score
- 47:25Speaker 1: first and win the turnover battle. That's a two in
- 47:29Speaker 1: case you were wondering, score first and win the turnover battle.
- 47:33Speaker 1: The statistics are overwhelmingly in favor of this Kevin O'Connell
- 47:37Speaker 1: led Vikings team. If they score first, they win the
- 47:40Speaker 1: turnover battle, they win the game and simple.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Yeah. The fun stat that's been going around the last
- 47:46Speaker 2: few weeks is what is he now twenty and oh,
- 47:49Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell is twenty and oh as a Vikings head
- 47:52Speaker 2: coach when they tie or win the turnover battle, and yeah,
- 47:59Speaker 2: that's a proven stat right there. There's also another fun one.
- 48:02Speaker 2: He's like a little bit where he's like twenty and
- 48:05Speaker 2: eight when his starting quarterback is healthy.
- 48:10Speaker 1: So there you go. I think the odds are ever
- 48:13Speaker 1: in the Vikings favor and I think the Vikings are
- 48:15Speaker 1: such a well balanced team on both sides of the ball.
- 48:18Speaker 1: I was looking at it before these Monday night games
- 48:22Speaker 1: take place. We're watching the Monday Night games right now.
- 48:25Speaker 2: Looks like the Washington's up twenty eight to twenty against
- 48:28Speaker 2: the Bengals at the end of the third quarter.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Yep, Commanders surprisingly leading, and then the Bills are just
- 48:35Speaker 1: mopping the floor with the Jaguars. Yeah. I haven't seen
- 48:37Speaker 1: that score in a while. But anyways, before the Monday
- 48:41Speaker 1: Night games, I was just kind of looking at some
- 48:44Speaker 1: very basic stats. The Vikings are second in the league
- 48:49Speaker 1: in points allowed, behind the Steelers, I believe, Okay, yeah, yeah,
- 48:55Speaker 1: And they're second in the league in points scored behind
- 48:57Speaker 1: the Saints. Okay. In terms of point differential, they are
- 49:03Speaker 1: near the top of the league. And that's just again
- 49:08Speaker 1: kind of foreign territory for this Vikings team. Either the
- 49:11Speaker 1: defense is really good but the offense is struggling, or
- 49:13Speaker 1: the offense is high powered, but man, they give up
- 49:15Speaker 1: a lot of points on defense. To be at the
- 49:18Speaker 1: top of the league in both of those categories is
- 49:22Speaker 1: saying something. And I think, you keep these guys healthy,
- 49:25Speaker 1: you keep playing ball the way you've played ball, it's
- 49:29Speaker 1: gonna be tough to beat the Vikings this y. Yeah,
- 49:31Speaker 1: that's funny.
- 49:31Speaker 2: It reminds me of I think it was O'Connell's first
- 49:34Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty two. The Vikings, like famously every
- 49:38Speaker 2: week would somehow win, but they were still like negative
- 49:41Speaker 2: in the point differential, had like negative two points after
- 49:46Speaker 2: winning like eight games or something like that at that
- 49:48Speaker 2: point in the season. So it is nice to I mean,
- 49:51Speaker 2: points are the second most important stat the first most
- 49:54Speaker 2: being wins, you know, right, I mean points equal wins
- 49:58Speaker 2: pretty much, So it is nice to to see that.
- 50:02Speaker 2: And again that kind of goes into the thing that
- 50:04Speaker 2: I've been saying every week now. There hasn't been a superman.
- 50:08Speaker 2: And I think more and more that I say that.
- 50:10Speaker 2: You know, we haven't had Donald throw for six hundred
- 50:13Speaker 2: yards or Jefferson somehow catched eight touchdowns, you know, or
- 50:17Speaker 2: like Jonathan Gernardi might be the closest to a superman
- 50:20Speaker 2: we've had with three sacks, But nobody's had four interceptions,
- 50:24Speaker 2: you know, but maybe that means the superman is the
- 50:26Speaker 2: coaching staff and you just see good point, see guys
- 50:30Speaker 2: doing their job because the coaching staff haven't prepared. So yeah,
- 50:33Speaker 2: that is nice. Hopefully, hopefully the Vikings this week continue
- 50:37Speaker 2: that and score more points than they let get scored
- 50:39Speaker 2: on them. And that's kind of what I'm predicting.
- 50:42Speaker 1: So what is your way too early score prediction. It's
- 50:45Speaker 1: Monday right now, so they won't play for another six days.
- 50:48Speaker 1: But what are you thinking.
- 50:50Speaker 2: I think the Packers have shown I think the whole
- 50:54Speaker 2: NFC North has kind of shown that it's it's not
- 50:57Speaker 2: the Vikings at the bottom. The Vikings are definitely towards
- 51:00Speaker 2: the top, and then I think it's the Packers, and
- 51:02Speaker 2: then the lines are close, and then a very very
- 51:06Speaker 2: distant fourth is the Bears at this point, but pack
- 51:10Speaker 2: All that to say, the Packers have shown that they're
- 51:12Speaker 2: a decent team. Anytime you lose your starting quarterback and
- 51:15Speaker 2: you start a guy that's been on the team for
- 51:17Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, I'll add Josh Dobbs last year
- 51:20Speaker 2: for the Vikings, that shows that you're a decent team.
- 51:25Speaker 2: So I think it'll be close. I have to go
- 51:28Speaker 2: with the hot hand. I have to say the Vikings
- 51:29Speaker 2: are gonna win. I think it's gonna be something like
- 51:32Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four.
- 51:34Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. I'm gonna go slightly lower scoring. Okay,
- 51:40Speaker 1: I predicted what seventeen thirteen Viking like the Vikings over Texans.
- 51:45Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be a defensive battle. I'm
- 51:47Speaker 1: gonna stick with that narrative. I'm gonna say twenty to seventeen.
- 51:51Speaker 1: I think it's close, but I think Vikings pull it
- 51:54Speaker 1: out in twenty to seventeen. Will the thrill continues to
- 51:58Speaker 1: be perfect?
- 51:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would. And I guess my score is
- 52:04Speaker 2: a twenty seven points. That's either a couple of field
- 52:07Speaker 2: goals made or a missed extra point. But yeah, that
- 52:11Speaker 2: definitely still relies on a good performance from Will Will record.
- 52:16Speaker 2: I almost forgot his name because I just wanted to
- 52:19Speaker 2: keep going Will to.
- 52:20Speaker 1: Thrill, Will to thrill.
- 52:21Speaker 2: Either way, I think at this point, I feel confident.
- 52:24Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a good win. Definitely
- 52:27Speaker 2: a good game overall, and I don't think if they lose,
- 52:30Speaker 2: it's not going to be some blowout. If they lose,
- 52:33Speaker 2: it'll be because some unforeseen turnovers or crazy injury or
- 52:38Speaker 2: something like that.
- 52:39Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely things that you don't like account for in
- 52:42Speaker 1: the game plan. Hopefully those don't happen, but it's gonna
- 52:46Speaker 1: be a fun one to watch. I was going to
- 52:47Speaker 1: bring this up to you, So last week against the
- 52:49Speaker 1: was it against the Texans? Yeah?
- 52:52Speaker 2: Because the team the first play was an interception. The
- 52:56Speaker 2: Viking's got an interception. Do you think because every team
- 53:01Speaker 2: has like a scripted series for their first handful of plays,
- 53:04Speaker 2: do you think the Vikings koc after that interception just
- 53:08Speaker 2: went Okay, we're going with that script or do you
- 53:10Speaker 2: think he kind of called that differently and left the
- 53:12Speaker 2: scripted plays for.
- 53:14Speaker 1: Their first to first drive legitimate drive. I don't think
- 53:18Speaker 1: he would just stick. I don't think he's the type
- 53:20Speaker 1: of coach situationally that's going to stick with the script
- 53:24Speaker 1: when you get the ball first in ten at your
- 53:26Speaker 1: own or not your own, the opposing whatever. I forget
- 53:29Speaker 1: where they were. Definitely they were in scoring position. They
- 53:33Speaker 1: were already in field goal position after Cruizier Hill was tackled,
- 53:37Speaker 1: So no, I think he immediately went to all right,
- 53:41Speaker 1: red zone offense let's you know, let's call something up,
- 53:44Speaker 1: let's dial something up, and it wasn't that much longer
- 53:47Speaker 1: and we had a touchdown. Yeah.
- 53:48Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's another mark of a good
- 53:51Speaker 2: coach and a good situational coach. I think he Kosc
- 53:54Speaker 2: could probably still work on his timeout usage, but overall
- 53:58Speaker 2: he's still way better than I mean, knock on wood,
- 54:01Speaker 2: way better than Zimmer was at this point in Zimmer's
- 54:03Speaker 2: Vikings career.
- 54:04Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think timeout usage comes with comfortability with
- 54:08Speaker 1: your your quarterback, specifically, like when you call it. It's
- 54:12Speaker 1: tough to call defensive timeouts unless you absolutely need them.
- 54:17Speaker 1: You want to save them for offense, especially in those
- 54:20Speaker 1: like two minute scenarios when you're driving at the end
- 54:22Speaker 1: of a half. But yeah, I think the more he
- 54:27Speaker 1: gets comfortable with Sam Darnold, that'll work itself out too,
- 54:32Speaker 1: because I remember I can't remember if it was the
- 54:34Speaker 1: Giants game or the forty nine Ers game, but there
- 54:36Speaker 1: were a few head scratchers of timeouts where it's like,
- 54:39Speaker 1: why are we what are we doing right now?
- 54:41Speaker 2: Well, remember I was saying, like they're using up all
- 54:43Speaker 2: of this play clock every play, Like some of this
- 54:45Speaker 2: has to be communication like they can't just be game
- 54:48Speaker 2: plan to use up the entire play clock.
- 54:50Speaker 1: But I think as that relationship continues to develop, timeout
- 54:55Speaker 1: usage becomes a lot more logical down the road.
- 54:58Speaker 2: So one more random question for you. The talker is
- 55:03Speaker 2: starting to bubble up a little bit more. I don't
- 55:05Speaker 2: think we're there yet, but people are starting to talk
- 55:08Speaker 2: more like, holy cow, what do we do if Sam
- 55:10Speaker 2: Donald is good?
- 55:12Speaker 1: Did they try to keep him?
- 55:15Speaker 2: Do they try to re sign him? And just say,
- 55:17Speaker 2: all right, this is a good chance for JJ McCarthy
- 55:19Speaker 2: to really have a good few couple of years on
- 55:23Speaker 2: the bench before they need to throw him in. JJ's
- 55:26Speaker 2: a young guy. I think he's only twenty two right now.
- 55:29Speaker 2: What do you think if the Vikings go and Sam
- 55:32Speaker 2: Donald has four thousand passing yards forty touchdowns, like he's
- 55:37Speaker 2: kind of on pace to do right now, wins a
- 55:40Speaker 2: playoff game or two. I mean, that's a dividing decision
- 55:44Speaker 2: for fans.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Well, why don't you share your pots during opinion here?
- 55:49Speaker 1: Because you were posting some stuff on our socials this
- 55:51Speaker 1: week that got a little bit of attention.
- 55:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I did say before the Texans game, I said, hey,
- 55:56Speaker 2: if Sam Donald and the Vikings go out and beat
- 55:59Speaker 2: the Texans. You really got to start thinking about this.
- 56:02Speaker 2: I think, well, you are.
- 56:04Speaker 1: More specific than that. You got to start thinking about
- 56:06Speaker 1: seeing what you can get for JJ McCarthy. Yeah, and
- 56:09Speaker 1: signing Donald to a one to two year extension. Yeah. Well.
- 56:12Speaker 2: And the interesting thing too is we're watching the Bengals
- 56:16Speaker 2: play right now. Sam Donald is a couple of weeks younger,
- 56:21Speaker 2: but he's younger than Joe Burrow. And if he has
- 56:24Speaker 2: proven that something has clicked, and KOC and Sam Donald
- 56:28Speaker 2: have something going, maybe even more so than what Koc
- 56:30Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins had. The whole goal is to find
- 56:35Speaker 2: your quarterback, and it would be tough to let a
- 56:40Speaker 2: proven commodity go in the hopes of JJ McCarthy, who
- 56:43Speaker 2: is proven he should be pretty good. But at that
- 56:47Speaker 2: point you would theoretically know Sam Donald is good. Maybe
- 56:51Speaker 2: I overshot it by saying you trade away JJ McCarthy
- 56:54Speaker 2: right now, but I think you got to think long
- 56:57Speaker 2: and hard and hopefully make the right decision and keep
- 57:00Speaker 2: a proven commodity even if he's expensive, because that's a
- 57:04Speaker 2: good problem to have as an expensive quarterback who has
- 57:06Speaker 2: proven to be good.
- 57:07Speaker 1: I think the biggest question mark is and I'll answer
- 57:10Speaker 1: the question in a minute and give my opinion, but
- 57:14Speaker 1: I think the biggest question mark is what would Sam
- 57:16Speaker 1: Darnold be worth after a season like this? You know,
- 57:20Speaker 1: if if he does go on to produce a stat
- 57:23Speaker 1: line like you just described, and he does lead the
- 57:26Speaker 1: Vikings to you know, some playoff success, who knows, maybe
- 57:30Speaker 1: even the big one, that would be awesome, Conwood, but
- 57:36Speaker 1: you got to ask yourself what's he worth? Right, because
- 57:38Speaker 1: we've had quarterbacks like that. We had case Keenum who
- 57:41Speaker 1: came in and filled in admirably for Sam Bradford, and
- 57:46Speaker 1: what happened to him?
- 57:48Speaker 2: He left, and then what happened after he left?
- 57:51Speaker 1: He didn't do anywhere else. Yeah, he didn't do anything.
- 57:53Speaker 1: But the point is, like it seemed like the Vikings
- 57:58Speaker 1: had figured out something with case Keenum and then they
- 58:02Speaker 1: let him walk. Now it was a different general manager,
- 58:04Speaker 1: it was a different head coach, quarterback. Yeah, everything's different,
- 58:10Speaker 1: But I think there may have been a price tag
- 58:14Speaker 1: on case Keenum, Like what's how am I trying to
- 58:18Speaker 1: say this? What are we willing as an organization to
- 58:21Speaker 1: pay him to keep him here? Because he just led
- 58:23Speaker 1: us to an NFC championship game, played most of the
- 58:27Speaker 1: season in place of an injured Sam Bradford. I think
- 58:31Speaker 1: you've got to ask that question first. I think that
- 58:33Speaker 1: has to be answered, and that has to be worked
- 58:35Speaker 1: out between O'Connell, Quosia Delpha Mensa, and Sam Darnold, like, hey,
- 58:43Speaker 1: this is the number right here, Like we're all in agreement.
- 58:45Speaker 1: This is it. Like if we're good, we're good, and
- 58:48Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you this. So with all of that
- 58:51Speaker 1: as a backdrop, my answer to that question is if
- 58:55Speaker 1: the number isn't so high that you have to sell
- 58:59Speaker 1: the farm, and you can keep Justin Jefferson, you can
- 59:05Speaker 1: keep Christian darrisaw who are already under contract anyways. You
- 59:09Speaker 1: can keep some of your bigger names. Yeah. Sure, maybe
- 59:12Speaker 1: there's some attrition, you know, maybe there's some you know,
- 59:16Speaker 1: smaller contract guys that end up, you know, having to
- 59:22Speaker 1: get traded or get cut or whatever. Sure, that happens.
- 59:25Speaker 1: It's the NFL. There's stuff like that that happens all
- 59:28Speaker 1: the time. But I think more than like Kirk Cousins
- 59:33Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy situation like we were talking about, I think
- 59:37Speaker 1: a Sam Darnold JJ McCarthy is a better position for
- 59:43Speaker 1: the Vikings long term. It sets them up to do
- 59:46Speaker 1: more of like a Green Bay Packers type of thing,
- 59:48Speaker 1: where it's like, all right, we have the guy for now,
- 59:51Speaker 1: we've also got the guy for later who's just red
- 59:54Speaker 1: shirting and you know, getting this experience watching film with
- 59:58Speaker 1: the guy going to practice, taking all these reps, maybe
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: filling in for him every once in a while if
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: he's a little banged up. You know, I think that's
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: the best possible scenario. And now that's the pie in
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: the sky. That's the like, you know, if everything were
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: to you know, line up, and everything worked out, then
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: you know, it's all it's all good. Yeah, And it
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: rarely ever works out like that in today's NFL, But
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: I think that's where you start. You gotta start with
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: Sam Donald's number. If he leads the Vikings to all
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: this success this year, you start there. And if it's
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: not so egregious, if he's like, yeah, ten million, it
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: wouldn't be that fifteen million, you know, I know it would.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: I think the number per year per season.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: Yeah, the number would start at what Baker Mayfield got,
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: and I think it was something like three years, one
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. So you're looking at thirty five ish
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: million a year, and if Sam Donald goes and throws
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: for thirty five hundred to four thousand yards forty plus touchdowns,
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: a playoff win, er two or oh my goodness, we
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: can't even say that word, the Ultimate Prize. If he
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: gets the Ultimate Prize, you sell the farm. Then you
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: give him fifty a year because something has worked, and
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: you do what the Niners did with Trey Lance. Now,
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: Trey Lance is different because he's proven to not be good,
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: and that was a terrible decision. They just got super
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: lucky by having a brock Purty turn out to be
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: halfway decent. I think, as tough as it would be
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: to accept that first round loss, which it wouldn't even
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: be a loss, JJ McCarthy would still have trade value
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: and he would still have value on the roster. But
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: if Sam Donald proves that he's a guy that figured
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: something out and it's working with Koc and Donald, you
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: go with the hot hand. And if it's proven case Keenum,
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: he was playing hero ball. It was fun, it was exciting.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: I mean, the Minneapolis miracle itself was a lob up
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: and let's see what happens, and holy crap, it worked.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: Keenum was hero ball, he was a gunslinger and it
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: just worked and it was fun. Sam Bradford is methodical.
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: He's playing quarterback, he's not playing os ball. You know,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: it's like it seems to be working. The right answer
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: right now is I think we just all have to
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: have an open mind and trust in quasi.
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: We need to stop talking because I'm ready to get
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: these socks off of my ends, so we should definitely
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: wrap things up. I've enjoyed this conversation thoroughly. It's been
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: very good, and I think Sam Darnold is going to
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: continue to be a talker for as long as he's
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: healthy and playing good football for the Vikings because it's
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: such a good story. You know, he really struggled with
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: his three former teams. It sat the bench. I mean,
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: he was just the backup last year, and so to
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: see him playing well is a lot of fun. To
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: see him really gelling with Kevin O'Connell is a lot
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: of fun. To see the Vikings three and all is
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Just the best.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: We all get to have fun with this. Whatever happens
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: the rest of the year, we're having fun.
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Right now.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: We're having so much more fun and then we thought
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: we would have so much fun. Hey, since we're pointing
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: it out, all right, what are your thoughts kind of
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: to wrap up the like Purple Punishments video that we'll
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: have come out separately from this? Was this easier harder
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: than you expected it would be?
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Is it as fun? Do you think the viewers will
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: like it? How have you enjoyed this week's purple punishment
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: with socks on her hands? I still hold that it's
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: slightly better than not being able to say vikings, because
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: that's literally all we talk about is the vikings, and
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: so to be punished by doing ten push ups every
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: time you say vikings was a little ridiculous. But we
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: did it, and we did it in front of people
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: we didn't know, and they didn't judge us for it.
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: They laughed along with us, and it was fun. You
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: still have some push ups that.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: You've got to do that will be that will be
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: in this episode. Maybe it's already been there.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm paying up on those? Will you
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: will pay up on those? For sure? It wasn't as
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: hard to grab the mug because we we have these
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: ones with the handles, which is nice. If we had
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: the older football mugs. Oh man, that would have been
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: That would have been a challenge. That would have been
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: a two hand job, and it would have been maybe
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: two It would have been a what too challenging, too
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: challenging to successfully complete. On I realized what I said there.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: We might have to take that. Now, you're all good man,
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: that's hilarious. Anyways, Yeah, I'm ready to take these off though.
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think we just need to embrace we
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: had Viking socks on. It's awesome. I think we need
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: to do another muted high five and make sure that
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: we get another drink out of our beer. Which maybe
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: this is a good, good time we can transition.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this beer? Really good?
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: The Iowa Brewing Company Eagle Amber Lagger, which at least
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: the bartender that day said was one of their more popular,
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: higher selling beers.
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely would have this again. Unfortunately, I don't know
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: that they distribute around here because we picked up these
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: can while we were there on the ground in Cedar Rapids.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: So if you can get it near you, I would
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: definitely go pick them up. But absolutely otherwise, if you
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: can make your way to Cedar Rapids, head to downtown
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: Cedar Rapids head to their brewery. Great vibe, great place
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: to hang out, and some really good beer.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: And we just kind of found it, like you were
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: just kind of walking around.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: It was kind of between two different locations that we
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: were between for the Iowa podcast Words, and we're like, oh, hey,
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: let's go there.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: Yeah, this is almost enough for me to like every
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: time I'm kind of in that area, think like, it's
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: just a few minutes, I can hop off the interstate
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: and go grab a six pack of something from him.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: I would bring company. Yeah.
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: I like their stuff a lot. I would love to
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: have them featured on the podcast some more. So, Hey,
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Iowa Brewing Company, you want to send us some stuff,
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: we'd love to we'd love to talk it up. But
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: all jokes aside, if you can definitely give it a try.
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: Everything we tried there that day was phenomenal. And this
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: amber blogger is it's a solid amber blogger, doesn't do
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: too much, doesn't do too little, and it's perfect. I
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: think the high today was like seventy two. It's perfect
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: amber blogger seasons.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: It's fall, man, the temperatures are starting to drop, the
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: leaves are starting to fall off, the trees and football
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: is in full swing and it's a beautiful thing. I'm excited. Yeah.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: So all right, man, I think we hit about everything,
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: didn't we.
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- 1:07:47Speaker 1: Yeah, everything, And of course we'll be back next week
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: with another episode hopefully. Well did you pick predict? Did you?
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: I can't. I can't look it up right now? Can
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: you look it up? I think I predicted a win
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: and you predicted a loss. I know I predicted a loss,
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: so you predicted a win, So this could be. Actually,
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: this will be the first week where one of us
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: will spin the wheel and the other will not, so
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: one of us will have to suffer the consequences of
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: the purple punishments. Next week. If the Vikings win, then
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: I will spin the wheel because I predicted that they
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: would lose against the Packers. There you go, now you
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: got to go up. Yep.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: I predicted a Vikings win against the Packers. You predicted
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: a loss. That's verified here. So yeah, one of us
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: for sure is going to be spinning the wheel and
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: doing a punishment solo.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: So well, we both just revised our picks and said
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: they would win. I revised my pick.
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: But these are the final ones, are preseason picks, all right.
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: So if the Vikings do in fact win next week
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, I will spin the wheel. If they
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: lose for some reason, hopefully not, you're going to be
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: the victim of the wheel of purple punishment, that's all right,
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: it'll happen, all right. I want to get these darn
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: socks off my hands. Check us out wherever you get
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- 1:09:20Speaker 1: all right, everybody, Austin is going to pay up on
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: the thirteen pushups that he did not complete at the
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