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For Richards or Poorer?? · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencants and camera judge.
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Speaker 1: All right, so we are here to cheese in a pod.
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Speaker 1: It is supposed to be myself and Drew from Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: And last minute she called in an audible she called
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Speaker 1: in six So who did I text at four am? Kyle?
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Speaker 1: I'm here with Kyle Richards And I know that you
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Speaker 1: guys will not believe it, but we have not prepped
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Speaker 1: any of this today. They're they're not gonna believe it,
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Speaker 1: but I We're going in cold. I'm in pain, unhinged,
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Speaker 1: have zero memory, and have pretty much not left my
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Speaker 1: bed for the past three days. So which is very
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Speaker 1: unlike you, which is really leading into I think a
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Speaker 1: great pod exactly exactly. Um, well, yeah, do people realize
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Speaker 1: how early we wake up? It's really something's wrong with us.
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Speaker 1: We are up so early in the morning discussing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the fact we are very invested in things that maybe
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Speaker 1: don't matter to most people, but we will go so
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Speaker 1: deep At four seven a I'm like, I'm like, did
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Speaker 1: you see this? But did you see? And so that's
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Speaker 1: how it continues on. But we have a little groups
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Speaker 1: of people that wake up very early too. So we
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Speaker 1: it's like, but I do. I don't apologize. I haven't
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Speaker 1: even been wordling the last couple of days. I haven't
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Speaker 1: slacking off on that word it's really annoying. It's because
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Speaker 1: I was doing well and ever since, you guys have
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Speaker 1: been winning when I lost my confidence. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to brag, but I did get you a water and
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Speaker 1: thank you. That's fine, Okay, okay, So we're gonna just
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Speaker 1: get right into it. Uh. Normally what we do is
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Speaker 1: we fully do a breakdown and of the episode, but
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Speaker 1: since you lived it, we're gonna start out with questions
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Speaker 1: and then we'll do a little breakdown. And also, I
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Speaker 1: have not seen these questions. That is my hand to god,
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Speaker 1: I've not seen it. I know you're going to be frightened,
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Speaker 1: but the first one's an easy one. I feel like
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Speaker 1: it's Were you surprised at all at the sofa seating
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Speaker 1: set up at the reunion? No? No, I wasn't, not
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Speaker 1: one bit. No. I don't know why I wasn't. Were
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Speaker 1: you surprised to see durat self Tanner on the couch afterwards?
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Speaker 1: By the way, that was she was just the only
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Speaker 1: one people saw. Everybody I think got self Tanner on
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Speaker 1: account and that's been happening since season one, um, Adrian Malouf,
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Speaker 1: I will never forget got the self Tanner Alli released
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Speaker 1: at Vanderpump Sofa and they still was like adan like
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Speaker 1: a big thing about it. That's been happening for years.
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Speaker 1: I always feel bad about that. Um. So yeah is
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Speaker 1: the only one called out. But I did text Dreet
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Speaker 1: this morning and I said, UM, speak now forever hold
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Speaker 1: your piece on your self Tanner, because I need to
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Speaker 1: understand why there was She probably didn't know what you're
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Speaker 1: talking about. I don't think you've been paying attention to it.
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Speaker 1: But what she did know what we were talking about
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Speaker 1: was there's been a post this morning that's happened now
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Speaker 1: on three different accounts. Did you see all I know
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Speaker 1: about this? What is it? Um? Lisa, Arenna, Diana and
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Speaker 1: Erica And they keep posting peaky blind What does that mean?
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Speaker 1: Because I've never seen the show? Well, dere says, I'm
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Speaker 1: obsessed with the show and I know it very well.
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Speaker 1: Peaky Blinders is a group that you don't want to
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Speaker 1: eff with. Oh okay, um, But she had no idea
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Speaker 1: what that meant. I haven't watched the show, so I
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Speaker 1: guess this is like, you don't mess with these three? Okay. Well, um,
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Speaker 1: which leads me to the next thing, which I may
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Speaker 1: have mentioned on the pod that I even hate to
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Speaker 1: say the term because then we get attacks so much,
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Speaker 1: but that the Foxes have not been corresponding since Bravo con.
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Speaker 1: Who are you still talking to you? I'm not you know,
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Speaker 1: that's a loaded question these days. Yeah, you know you're
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Speaker 1: an ask Um, I'm not not talking to anyone. You know.
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Speaker 1: Things are just different right now. Um, they've been away
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Speaker 1: for a while. I would say, I think you can
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Speaker 1: kind of connect the dots. Um. I've had to step
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Speaker 1: away from not only the show, watching that, but just
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Speaker 1: sort of engaging with anything kind of connected to that,
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Speaker 1: to the show because I was struggling. I was really struggling, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, with my anxiety, and I just knew it
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Speaker 1: was my best interest. I didn't see the episodes. I
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Speaker 1: don't even know how many I missed, um going into it.
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Speaker 1: I did see reunion three. I did not see I
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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe six episodes before the first reunion, and
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Speaker 1: I don't think I saw both reunions because we Kyle
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Speaker 1: came and stayed with me one of the nights that
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Speaker 1: I was recovering from my recent surgeries, and we watched
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Speaker 1: the reunion together, and your face during some of the
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Speaker 1: things that I had seen a thousand times already and
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Speaker 1: had to recap you like, what when did this happen? Who? Well? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but right now I'm in a better place. So but
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Speaker 1: I mean I was at a place and mentally that
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to um deal with some
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Speaker 1: of those things. It's just easier for me. UM. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I have so many questions. You know, I never I
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Speaker 1: never look at my dams from the people that I
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Speaker 1: don't follow, you know that, Yeah, I do. I love
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Speaker 1: the plus night plus Monday nights. I mean, I probably
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Speaker 1: have a handful of time since I've had Instagram, and
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Speaker 1: it's never been I mean, there's a lot of great,
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Speaker 1: nice messages and of course a ton of support, but
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Speaker 1: there's also a lot of like not nice messages. So
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Speaker 1: I'm like, why would I even look at this? Um?
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Speaker 1: But there's so many questions about why I didn't say
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Speaker 1: certain things and why didn't speak up about certain things.
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Speaker 1: I'm just jumping right now about that because I mean
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Speaker 1: I'll dig into that. I'll dig into the but if
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Speaker 1: you want to give it right off the if you
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Speaker 1: want to, if you want to blow our load right,
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Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. I don't worry you, guys. I
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Speaker 1: didn't get all the USA. Um people have been tweeting
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Speaker 1: me and saying that the only reason that you're mad
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Speaker 1: at Crystal, but you had issues with Crystal was because
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Speaker 1: she replaced me on the show. Oh my god, okay,
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Speaker 1: I know, can you explain what your real issue is
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Speaker 1: with her? So? I actually like Crystal. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: what's weird about the show, and you know, um, when
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Speaker 1: we're not shooting, I like Crystal, and I didn't like
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Speaker 1: that she created something that could have put Sutton's reputation
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Speaker 1: at risk. And you know that really bothered me. You know,
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Speaker 1: I felt like last year she did that too, with
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Speaker 1: saying that you know, she felt um violated with Sudden
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Speaker 1: bringing the jacket to her room, and you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, we shouldn't, none of us should
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Speaker 1: judge each other until we walk in each other's shoes.
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Speaker 1: But when you say she's also new to this, and
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Speaker 1: you know, when you say something like that on camera,
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Speaker 1: you know Sutton was really stressed about that, and you
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Speaker 1: know then it was the race thing this year about
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Speaker 1: saying that she said something really dark, and she was
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Speaker 1: very clear that there was something, and she told all
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Speaker 1: of this that you know, and even Andy said we
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Speaker 1: all thought that, and then she said there actually wasn't something.
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Speaker 1: So I take issue with that. Um, you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know how it always comes out. You know, I've
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of messages saying, you know, I have
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Speaker 1: to respect you know, UM, you know that I don't
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Speaker 1: understand you know, Um, someone of color may feel differently
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Speaker 1: about something, and I do. I do understand that, and
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Speaker 1: I respect that. UM. I was just saying, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: you're putting things out there on camera that could really
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Speaker 1: hurt people's reputations. That was my point, Um, I don't
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Speaker 1: know that. Do you believe do you believe that their
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Speaker 1: relationship is actually authentic? Or I mean I've been getting
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Speaker 1: messages from you know, other people that we know, like no, listen,
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Speaker 1: Like this was a conversation that Crystal and Sutton had
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Speaker 1: and they made a decision together. What was weird to
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Speaker 1: Sutton never spoke up a union because I was like,
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Speaker 1: we're all here saying why did you do that to her?
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Speaker 1: And I just feel like Sutton honestly, like I said,
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Speaker 1: in the season, she didn't want to even address it.
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Speaker 1: She didn't want to talk about it. She wants it
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Speaker 1: to go away. So I think that's why she was quiet.
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Speaker 1: I think that they're nice and the piece. I think
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Speaker 1: that Sutton is probably gonna be cautious with her moving forward.
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Speaker 1: That's my my my take on it. Um. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I think they're the friendly and get along. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I feel that Garcel and Sutton's relationship is a lot
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Speaker 1: more genuine and Crystals just I mean because Crystals also
8:10
Speaker 1: having a you know, getting pretty close with Cathy type
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Speaker 1: situation as well. Are you thinking she's just going in
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Speaker 1: where she can to feel most comfortable or I think
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Speaker 1: she's been you know, I think she I think that
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Speaker 1: she hasn't felt like she fit in, you know, since
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Speaker 1: kind of the beginning, and um, you know, trying to
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Speaker 1: find her place. Maybe. But like I said, I do
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Speaker 1: like Crystal. I do. I mean, you know, I've only
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Speaker 1: only arguments have had is when she has said something
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Speaker 1: and I didn't understand and that I felt like it
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Speaker 1: was going to hurt somebody's reputation. And these days have
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Speaker 1: to be so cautious because everybody gets canceled, like you
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Speaker 1: don't just throw that out there and then you know,
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Speaker 1: have me, you know that you created something so that.
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Speaker 1: That's what was so confusing to me was how quiet
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Speaker 1: Sutton was about it, Like if somebody had implied that
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Speaker 1: about you or me, you know, like we're gonna either
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Speaker 1: say our apologies or we're gonna stand our ground on
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Speaker 1: what it is that we said and how we didn't
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Speaker 1: and none of that happened with them. She really looked
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Speaker 1: like away, She's like, I just want this to go away,
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Speaker 1: and then she was like looking to garselves like and
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Speaker 1: also you make this go away too for me, like,
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Speaker 1: let's I didn't catch that, but yeah, I was too
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Speaker 1: busy stressing about my other problems, other problems well, speaking
9:22
Speaker 1: of you know, tweeting up a storm and things happening,
9:25
Speaker 1: Denise and Camille have made their rounds so far. Um,
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Speaker 1: have either of them reached out to you to get together? Um?
9:34
Speaker 1: I bumped into Denise recently if at our like little
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Speaker 1: neighborhood place that we always go to, and she was
9:40
Speaker 1: very nice, and then she we later texted and she
9:43
Speaker 1: said that we could get lunch and you know, um, Camille. No,
9:48
Speaker 1: not since not since the Brides made no sense. You know,
9:52
Speaker 1: we go back and forth like I never really understand.
9:55
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even like to poke the bear
9:57
Speaker 1: with that one because she's very unpredictable all and um anyway, yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: I haven't. You know, I wish for well, you know,
10:06
Speaker 1: I mean I still follow her on Instagram. I just
10:10
Speaker 1: you know, she'll like make fun of Lisavanner Pump and
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Speaker 1: then be friendly Savanna Pump and then she kind of
10:16
Speaker 1: goes back and forth like so. But um, when we're together.
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Speaker 1: When we're together, we're usually getting along. I'm just having fun. Uh,
10:26
Speaker 1: We're back and laugh about you know, you know, other people,
10:30
Speaker 1: the stuff on the show. No stuff on the show.
10:32
Speaker 1: By the way, I got nervous when she did it.
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Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like the making fun
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Speaker 1: of people like that. You know, I didn't know even
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Speaker 1: when they doubled down on Lisa vander Pump like, I
10:41
Speaker 1: didn't like that either. It made me very uncomfortable. And
10:44
Speaker 1: you know, I know that Erica was mad because Vanda
10:48
Speaker 1: Pumpa made that comment about the Scratch and Sniff book.
10:51
Speaker 1: That's why she you know, she probably sent her scratch
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Speaker 1: and sniff. But I didn't like that. I don't think
10:55
Speaker 1: that's nice. You know. Well, speaking of Erica, what are
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Speaker 1: your thoughts about the Deret and PK being the next
11:02
Speaker 1: couple to break up? I mean, we were both, we
11:07
Speaker 1: were were to gather, we were at dinner or line
11:09
Speaker 1: for whatever it was at the time. That so shocked
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Speaker 1: and honestly, I mean, I don't know why she did that, because, um,
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Speaker 1: I think I know Pek Injury better than anybody in
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Speaker 1: the group, and you do, Um, you know, they're really
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Speaker 1: loving and supportive couple. They're a beautiful family. We travel
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Speaker 1: with them, and I just don't know why I throws
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Speaker 1: something like that out there. And she later said she
11:31
Speaker 1: was joking, but like jokes are supposed to be funny, Yeah,
11:35
Speaker 1: But also the way that she kind of walked up
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Speaker 1: to the end of the stage put her feet down, Like, yeah,
11:43
Speaker 1: that's the part I didn't understand. Like, if if you
11:45
Speaker 1: wanted to make a joke about what couple is gonna
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Speaker 1: bring up, then maybe say Renna and Harry because they're
11:50
Speaker 1: your best friends, and be like, of course they're not,
11:52
Speaker 1: you know, like or Eric and Tomba or aren't like
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Speaker 1: one of the under other hundred and forty seven people
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Speaker 1: at Bravocon that you could have been from that you
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Speaker 1: that's so cool. Either, I don't like those kind of questions.
12:03
Speaker 1: I don't like those kind of mean, shady questions, and
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Speaker 1: I don't I just I thought that was really unnecessary.
12:09
Speaker 1: And we know how. I mean, I know from experience,
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Speaker 1: these things follow you no matter what. People she could
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Speaker 1: say I was joking, but then for a while and
12:16
Speaker 1: then people are gonna say the next couple for sure.
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Speaker 1: The next thing you know, people are saying, oh, I've
12:20
Speaker 1: heard her having problems. It's like on and I mean,
12:23
Speaker 1: and I do know that, you know from from conversations
12:26
Speaker 1: I've had with Chirmer and other people. When you're on
12:28
Speaker 1: those that stage, sometimes you get that heightened like fuel
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Speaker 1: to say more than you would ever really want to say,
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Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh gosh, why did I go there?
12:37
Speaker 1: So there there might be that point to Erica, but
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Speaker 1: she's not normally that one to be. Then oh you
12:42
Speaker 1: know what your friends right, That's what was weird, Like
12:45
Speaker 1: they haven't had zero issues together, well, um, with each other,
12:49
Speaker 1: but um, you know, I mean even when Garcels had
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Speaker 1: the comment, I'm closer to Kathy and Kyle is she
12:55
Speaker 1: sent me a text and apologize, but then she did
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Speaker 1: it again. I know I didn't hear I didn't hear it,
13:00
Speaker 1: but I heard about it. But she said, you know,
13:02
Speaker 1: sometimes you watch it and not we get caught up.
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Speaker 1: It happens to all of us, and you know what, whatever,
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Speaker 1: it's fine. You know, I move on. Well, Kathy insinuated
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Speaker 1: that she would only return if Erica and Renna do
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Speaker 1: not right, what if you were to, if you were
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Speaker 1: to guess, what do you think is going to happen
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Speaker 1: in this scenario? I know obviously, well, I mean, I
13:24
Speaker 1: don't know who's coming back and who is not. I
13:26
Speaker 1: do know that anytime I cast member has said I
13:30
Speaker 1: don't want to be the show of so and so
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Speaker 1: and was on or you know, that's that's that doesn't work.
13:35
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen. So um. You know, maybe she doesn't
13:39
Speaker 1: realize that, but that doesn't work. By the way, the
13:41
Speaker 1: more you don't want someone on, the more they're gonna
13:43
Speaker 1: want them on. So um, that just doesn't fly. You know,
13:46
Speaker 1: problem makes up their own decisions, and then um, I'm
13:52
Speaker 1: gonna have to ask Diana has the one and done right,
13:55
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea because now these
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Speaker 1: peaky blinders are really they're throwing me for a loop
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Speaker 1: because now she's showing up again. I'm like, oh, but
14:04
Speaker 1: they've been friends. They went like I think Erica, and
14:06
Speaker 1: when I didn't, they were posting pictures all in Hawaii together.
14:08
Speaker 1: They were all on Hawaii together. But then you didn't
14:10
Speaker 1: weren't at the reunion because you were six, But then
14:13
Speaker 1: you had glam. Well yeah, but if you're doing the reunion,
14:16
Speaker 1: you're gonna have glam even if you're sick. Right, what
14:18
Speaker 1: you're what? You've never shown up to work sick in
14:22
Speaker 1: some capacity? What do you know? She was very very sick,
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Speaker 1: like long infection like, she was very very sick, very
14:29
Speaker 1: very stick Honestly she was. I mean I asked people
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and she really was genuinely very sick. Um.
14:36
Speaker 1: But she just didn't have COVID. I actually don't know
14:39
Speaker 1: she did. I think she'd had it and then she
14:40
Speaker 1: had a lasting infection or something like that. Her baby
14:43
Speaker 1: had it too. Oh my gosh, that's sad. So I
14:46
Speaker 1: I asked the question to, you know, the behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes people, and that's what I was told. Um, all right,
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Speaker 1: So now we'll get We're gonna take a little break
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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna come back and do a little
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Speaker 1: bit of this episode breakdown and get to some of
14:57
Speaker 1: the more questions. You're not I just want to, alright,
15:11
Speaker 1: so we are back. It starts out with viewer saying
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Speaker 1: Sutton's cats sweater and talking about her neuropathy is icon behavior.
15:21
Speaker 1: Um Like, at this point, I think Sutton's hired her
15:23
Speaker 1: own box, Like she's so funny because I told her that.
15:28
Speaker 1: But I'm like, why would you talk about the Neuropais
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Speaker 1: I have neuropathy? Kyle? And I see I know that
15:35
Speaker 1: about her though. You Hey, you know, if you're gonna
15:37
Speaker 1: put it all out there, you know, then you're gonna
15:39
Speaker 1: find the person that's right for you. They don't like it.
15:40
Speaker 1: That's what she is, so take it or leave it. Um.
15:42
Speaker 1: So then there was that, and then Erica said that
15:45
Speaker 1: she had sex the night before the reunion, that she
15:48
Speaker 1: has a roster of guys. Um then continues on that,
15:53
Speaker 1: like it's nice to at least have a guy that
15:55
Speaker 1: can stay hard it really, why does that sound make
15:58
Speaker 1: me feel so uncomfortable? I don't know. We were both
16:01
Speaker 1: like watching this, I was like, you could not pay
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Speaker 1: me any to say that. I just get so like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Um. But also for
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Speaker 1: the record, we have not met any of the guys
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Speaker 1: that I have said publicly on the pod. Next season,
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Speaker 1: I do want to see who she's dating. I want
16:20
Speaker 1: to move past all of this other stuff. I want
16:22
Speaker 1: to stop the employees very mysterious. Yeah, like I don't
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Speaker 1: want I don't want the mystery. I want to actually
16:27
Speaker 1: get into it. Who are you dating? What's your type?
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Speaker 1: If it's not she said, you know, in the beginning
16:32
Speaker 1: of the season, when things are like better with everybody. Um,
16:36
Speaker 1: she said that there was somebody and that I don't
16:41
Speaker 1: know if it was somebody who was like I had
16:42
Speaker 1: want an Oscar, it was a director or something, but
16:44
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't say any names. I don't know if
16:46
Speaker 1: that's still the same person or not, but there was
16:49
Speaker 1: back when we did our original pot it was the roster.
16:51
Speaker 1: So can't anybody serious because if you're serious, then you
16:53
Speaker 1: don't have a roster. You don't if you're yeah, you
16:55
Speaker 1: don't unless they like that you have a roster. I
16:58
Speaker 1: mean that's hard. Sorry, you're one your number seven buddy um.
17:06
Speaker 1: But then one of the listener questions was have we
17:09
Speaker 1: heard Erica talk about sex so much of Tom? But
17:12
Speaker 1: I feel like I've always known Erica to talk about sex,
17:14
Speaker 1: whether it's not about sex with Tom. But remember even
17:18
Speaker 1: when we were staying in Santa Barbara and she would
17:20
Speaker 1: talk about like porn, like she would have those types
17:23
Speaker 1: of on camera. These were of a conversation, but you
17:26
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk about sex with Tom. One time. I can
17:28
Speaker 1: recall when Eileen asked for something and she said, my
17:32
Speaker 1: husband seventy six at the time, right, And then they
17:35
Speaker 1: asked him at least asked him about made me to viagra,
17:38
Speaker 1: and she was like, no, he doesn't. I never believe.
17:42
Speaker 1: I never believed that, But I loved that by the
17:45
Speaker 1: way that the reaction they have my face like every time,
17:49
Speaker 1: your reactions are one of my favorite, cause it's like
17:51
Speaker 1: you're either like or like the most dramatic that cannot
17:57
Speaker 1: with life. So that's you, no matter what. There's some
18:00
Speaker 1: actions from the union and I'm like, oh my god,
18:01
Speaker 1: I think I forgot we were. You taking your earring
18:04
Speaker 1: off in the middle of the reunion and adjusting it
18:05
Speaker 1: really put me in I didn't think we were by
18:07
Speaker 1: the way, I don't think we were filming When someone
18:10
Speaker 1: went to go to the bathroom. I think we were
18:11
Speaker 1: on a break. In another if you saw Crystal was
18:16
Speaker 1: like meaning behind the sofa getting a drink, like we
18:18
Speaker 1: we thought we were on a break. I forgot. I
18:20
Speaker 1: think thereat went to the bathroom or something, or we
18:22
Speaker 1: had just come back from wreak. I was only telling Andy.
18:24
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were filming that for the show.
18:27
Speaker 1: I thought the cameras were like off. Sometimes we get
18:29
Speaker 1: caught in these things. Guys, so other than you know
18:32
Speaker 1: yours truly, Who do you think that Andy's favorite from
18:36
Speaker 1: over the Hills? By just the way he speaks to people,
18:39
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you matched him this year.
18:45
Speaker 1: I matched him. You didn't realize that you guys are
18:47
Speaker 1: in the same color outfit, Teddy. I don't think I
18:50
Speaker 1: realized a lot of things at the reunion. Um No,
18:53
Speaker 1: I didn't. Um, I will say this, I don't know
18:55
Speaker 1: who Andy's favorite. It. I mean, I've been in the
18:57
Speaker 1: longest and I know he's very nice to me and
18:59
Speaker 1: I care about him, And um, she's playing with wires,
19:02
Speaker 1: by the way, which means she doesn't want to. Well,
19:05
Speaker 1: I don't know because he's never said. I will say that.
19:07
Speaker 1: Once he was asked at a live show he was doing,
19:09
Speaker 1: if he had married one of the housewives, who would
19:11
Speaker 1: it be? And he said me, and I was like,
19:13
Speaker 1: that's a big compliment, but I will have to say that.
19:17
Speaker 1: You know. Um, at the reunion, you know, at the end,
19:21
Speaker 1: I felt really strange, and I felt like, why wouldn't
19:24
Speaker 1: people kind of like speaking up more? And I was
19:27
Speaker 1: feeling I mean, as you saw, I just wanted to leaving,
19:30
Speaker 1: get out of there. When Andy hugged me, it actually
19:33
Speaker 1: really meant a lot to me. And you could tell
19:35
Speaker 1: he really meant it, and I really cared, and um,
19:41
Speaker 1: I really I really appreciated that. What do you think that?
19:43
Speaker 1: Doug said in response. So, so you guys know, Doug
19:46
Speaker 1: is one of the long time producers of the beginning
19:50
Speaker 1: from the very beginning. Everybody loves Doug. He's like the
19:53
Speaker 1: nicest kind of He started Evolution, the production company. Um,
19:56
Speaker 1: and that does OC and Beverly Hills. So and you
19:59
Speaker 1: see Andy, and you know, I know I'm going forward,
20:01
Speaker 1: but you see Andy say to him, what do we do?
20:03
Speaker 1: Kyle's a mess? And he gets his response in his earbuds.
20:08
Speaker 1: I thought that from Doug, But what was the response,
20:10
Speaker 1: because then you had to stay there. Well, I thought
20:13
Speaker 1: that they just weren't gonna up film me, and then
20:15
Speaker 1: they were just gonna talk to other girls because they
20:17
Speaker 1: didn't respond to me and I couldn't talk. And then
20:19
Speaker 1: when Andy asked me the question if he thinks I
20:22
Speaker 1: could repair things with Kathy, I mean I didn't. I
20:24
Speaker 1: thought you couldn't even hear it. I just said I
20:25
Speaker 1: hope some of those I thought it was done, but
20:28
Speaker 1: apparently they kept filming and we kept we kept going. UM. Well,
20:32
Speaker 1: before we get to you and Kathy, we still need
20:34
Speaker 1: to get through UM. Garcelle starts talking about um, Eric
20:40
Speaker 1: is drinking and not realizing how bad it was, and
20:42
Speaker 1: then a lot of what I've seen online is Dered's
20:45
Speaker 1: response when she says I felt like I was stabbed
20:47
Speaker 1: in the stomach. Um, and she goes into this whole
20:52
Speaker 1: big thing, and then Garcella was like, what were you
20:54
Speaker 1: having an out of body experience then, because in the moment,
20:57
Speaker 1: all you said was he was trying to get flowers
20:59
Speaker 1: to your mommy, right right? Well, okay, so when I
21:03
Speaker 1: saw that because once again, I never saw Erica yell
21:06
Speaker 1: at Jack's. I didn't see that and I was told
21:09
Speaker 1: about it, um, And I never should have commented on
21:12
Speaker 1: something I hadn't seen. But I think she was just
21:15
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I can't see for other people.
21:17
Speaker 1: I think she was just trying to keep her like
21:18
Speaker 1: calm because she was like singing like she was a
21:20
Speaker 1: little out of control. Erica obviously right, But I can
21:23
Speaker 1: tell you when we got the episode, you know, dry
21:25
Speaker 1: and I spoke and she's like, Kyle, I'm I'm mortified,
21:28
Speaker 1: like that was terrible. Like when we're sitting there talking
21:30
Speaker 1: about it, I said, that's how I feel. I didn't
21:32
Speaker 1: see it. Why the hell was I talking about and
21:33
Speaker 1: I hadn't even seen And you know, my my husband,
21:36
Speaker 1: I mean, he always makes it dumb. I always always
21:41
Speaker 1: the worst, the worst jokes, and he doesn't like think
21:44
Speaker 1: about it and later he's like, oh my god. So
21:46
Speaker 1: I talked about this at UM, like in between breaks
21:50
Speaker 1: with Carcel at the reunion, because this is such a
21:53
Speaker 1: typical thing that happened. So Um, I got the episode
21:58
Speaker 1: when I was in London doing press for the the show,
22:00
Speaker 1: and I was so upset I was mortified because you know,
22:04
Speaker 1: obviously being a mom comes first to me more than anything.
22:06
Speaker 1: And then to see the way, you know, Erica spoke
22:09
Speaker 1: to Jackson how it came out. I was talking about it. Horrible, horrible, horrible.
22:13
Speaker 1: So I addressed it in an interview that I was
22:16
Speaker 1: doing in the morning in London, and I said, I
22:19
Speaker 1: really want to talk to Carsel, but it was literally
22:22
Speaker 1: one am at the time in l A, so I
22:24
Speaker 1: couldn't call Carseller or anything. So she heard about this
22:27
Speaker 1: interview and so you know, well, then why didn't you
22:29
Speaker 1: text me? You just you know you you said you
22:32
Speaker 1: wanted to reach out to me, you didn't. I said, no,
22:34
Speaker 1: that interview was well in the morning. I had just
22:36
Speaker 1: seen it. That's why I couldn't call you or anything.
22:38
Speaker 1: So I explained that to her, and you know, I
22:41
Speaker 1: just hope she knew that was genuine, because my god,
22:44
Speaker 1: did you hear a story and you're like, oh my god,
22:46
Speaker 1: can you you know when you're not supposed to laugh
22:47
Speaker 1: like in church and it's a bad thing, like, oh
22:49
Speaker 1: my god, I kept it that happened, But then when
22:50
Speaker 1: you actually see it, yea terrible And then we get
22:53
Speaker 1: on to the point of Erica starts making analogies with
22:58
Speaker 1: the plane. Oh my god, oh any other analogy, with
23:03
Speaker 1: any other analogy. I don't know what that is. I
23:05
Speaker 1: don't understand when she when she said that, I was like,
23:07
Speaker 1: why that analogy? Now, honestly, pick from there's thousands of analogies.
23:11
Speaker 1: Let's pick from any other and normally she kind of
23:14
Speaker 1: The funny thing is that in the moment, I think
23:16
Speaker 1: I was so distracted thinking about the stuff with my sister.
23:19
Speaker 1: I didn't even catch that in the moment. Watching it back,
23:23
Speaker 1: and when I saw the episode, I was like, what
23:26
Speaker 1: I think. I was like just kind of checked out
23:28
Speaker 1: for a lot of to me. But you are seeing
23:30
Speaker 1: a lot of Sutton and Erica having more of like
23:34
Speaker 1: a relationship. You can see Sutton says something along the
23:38
Speaker 1: line she just unfollowed. Hold on who, Sutton just unfollowed who?
23:44
Speaker 1: And who? Oh yeah, because there heard that. Oh yeah,
23:48
Speaker 1: there's these two. Um look at me. This is I mean,
23:52
Speaker 1: I already got myself in trouble talking about this on
23:54
Speaker 1: the show this season. Let's see Sutton. Okay, let's see
23:59
Speaker 1: does she follow them? Okay, Okay, I don't have you
24:01
Speaker 1: can check. I don't have a good A. Wow, you
24:03
Speaker 1: guys text us and let us know. But um, or
24:06
Speaker 1: send me a little message right here, please, Tara. But
24:09
Speaker 1: also something on here was that Renna was posting. Now
24:16
Speaker 1: of course it's gone, but Renault was posting certain things,
24:20
Speaker 1: and Sutton said, like enough, I'm done. Oh yeah yeah,
24:25
Speaker 1: So that might have been when the I'm following started
24:27
Speaker 1: to I think that's when it started. Um, but I
24:30
Speaker 1: I almost feel like that could be more based towards
24:33
Speaker 1: the Diana stuff with Garcel. I have no idea because
24:37
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was, but I just saw that. Um,
24:40
Speaker 1: but I can ask her tomorrow. We're supposed to have
24:42
Speaker 1: lunch tomorrow. Oh you and Sutton, Oh, Sutton does not
24:45
Speaker 1: follow Erica? Does she follow Renna? And what about Garcel
24:53
Speaker 1: and disc ourself follow me? Uh? Sutton does not follow Renna?
25:00
Speaker 1: Did girl still ever do your podcast? No? So she
25:03
Speaker 1: came late to she came way to Bravo con and
25:07
Speaker 1: she that was supposedly why I shouldn't come, But no,
25:11
Speaker 1: who did do it was? Um sunt oh so Sunner
25:16
Speaker 1: and sounds like you know I do lack you we
25:19
Speaker 1: just have issues with communication. I'm like, you're right, we do. Um, yes,
25:26
Speaker 1: follows Kyle, garcel does Garcela follows me In a shocking
25:31
Speaker 1: turn of event, who does Okay, Son doesn't follow Erica RIGHTA.
25:38
Speaker 1: So there's a theme here. Okay, now we're getting down.
25:40
Speaker 1: We're getting down to more more pressing things, which is
25:44
Speaker 1: why the repetition sometimes on Beverly Hill. So remember the
25:48
Speaker 1: scene between Diana and Sutton when um, they say the
25:52
Speaker 1: same thing but it was funny. Yeah, but it happened
25:56
Speaker 1: again here with Erica and the earrings, like, yeah, we're
26:01
Speaker 1: on appeal for legal reasons. Well that was her way
26:04
Speaker 1: of saying, I'm not answering your question, We're a deil
26:06
Speaker 1: for legal reasons, for legal reasons. And then she pulls
26:10
Speaker 1: up her boat and then Andy's like chasing Eric on
26:13
Speaker 1: a hamster, where he's like, yes, we cover that. She's
26:15
Speaker 1: like and we're on appeal for legal reasons. I'm like,
26:18
Speaker 1: what is Yeah, she's yeah, that was pretty funny, and
26:22
Speaker 1: he was like okay, okay um, and then he goes,
26:25
Speaker 1: would anybody you know keep want to keep these rings?
26:29
Speaker 1: And everyone's like no, definitely not. Dreads like double down,
26:32
Speaker 1: never know as if anyone in the right mind would
26:34
Speaker 1: be like me, maybe I would keep the earrings. I
26:37
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean it's I mean, no, that was
26:41
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody there wanted to keep those areas.
26:45
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna take a little break and we're
26:48
Speaker 1: gonna come back and we're going to discuss the bad
26:51
Speaker 1: stuff is coming. Now we've been laughing, but now we're
26:53
Speaker 1: going to get to the harder stuff because your sister arrives.
26:58
Speaker 1: Good times Okay, So we're back, and it's immediately for me,
27:12
Speaker 1: at least, I'm trying to be You know, your sister
27:16
Speaker 1: came up to me at Bravo Con. She did not
27:18
Speaker 1: do the podcast, but she immediately came up to me
27:20
Speaker 1: and put her hand on my shoulder and said, I'm
27:23
Speaker 1: so sorry for what you're going through with your cancer stuff.
27:27
Speaker 1: You know, like I just want to know let you
27:28
Speaker 1: know that I'm thinking about you. And I said, listen,
27:31
Speaker 1: I would love for you to come on the pod
27:33
Speaker 1: and talk to me because I know that things between
27:37
Speaker 1: you and one of my very best friends aren't and
27:40
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that my number one goal,
27:42
Speaker 1: even though you know I talked crap for a living,
27:45
Speaker 1: is that you guys are okay. Because I love I
27:47
Speaker 1: love Kyle so much, and she was about ready to
27:52
Speaker 1: say yes, and then her publicists looked at me and said, no,
27:54
Speaker 1: she needs to eat a burger. And then she sat
27:57
Speaker 1: right next to where what so then she sat right
28:01
Speaker 1: next to where my podcast table was an aide. Oh
28:04
Speaker 1: my god. So but she was very kind to me
28:08
Speaker 1: in the momentum. But as your friend, it was really
28:13
Speaker 1: hard to watch this episode, you know, because so let's
28:16
Speaker 1: talk about from the very beginning when she walks in
28:19
Speaker 1: and we get into the conversation about Chemo sabi, and
28:24
Speaker 1: something that I immediately got irritated by was that she
28:29
Speaker 1: assumed that you were going to set something up for her,
28:32
Speaker 1: and I didn't hear you say anything back, Like, how
28:36
Speaker 1: would I have known I was setting something up for
28:38
Speaker 1: your tequila? Like what? Okay, well, I actually not. Everything
28:41
Speaker 1: gets used in the reunion, as you know. But let
28:44
Speaker 1: me just clarify. So, my my sister um had said
28:48
Speaker 1: to me right before asking because she was bringing the
28:51
Speaker 1: tequila on camera throughout the season, but I didn't. She
28:54
Speaker 1: never mentioned the tequila to me until I didn't really know.
28:57
Speaker 1: I wasn't. You're filming, there's cameras, you're doing stuff, You're
28:59
Speaker 1: not you know sometimes I see people walking with a
29:02
Speaker 1: champagne bottle or a candle. You're not really a host
29:04
Speaker 1: this skip whatever. I wasn't really thinking about it. And
29:06
Speaker 1: then before Aspen, she said, you know, we invested in
29:10
Speaker 1: this tequila company. Do you care if I bring it
29:12
Speaker 1: to Aspen? And I said, not at all. Send it
29:14
Speaker 1: to my house and I'll like, you know, we'll make
29:15
Speaker 1: drinks of that, I'll put it out whatever. And that's
29:17
Speaker 1: exactly what we did. We have a million bottles at
29:20
Speaker 1: my house in Aspen. And so then you know, that
29:26
Speaker 1: was it. So when she said at the you know,
29:28
Speaker 1: I had planned the Chemosabi shopping event months in advance.
29:31
Speaker 1: I've been trying to do this Aspen trip with production
29:33
Speaker 1: for a long time. You know we booked Chemosabi that
29:35
Speaker 1: private room. Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh So after you know,
29:39
Speaker 1: we had the tequila at my house. That was that.
29:41
Speaker 1: So at the Chemosabi event, I didn't even know the
29:43
Speaker 1: tequila was there. I didn't even know it was on
29:46
Speaker 1: the bar. I knew nothing. So when she said at
29:48
Speaker 1: the reunion, I thought it was going to be an
29:51
Speaker 1: event for me my tequila, I was like, so there
29:54
Speaker 1: was there was no nothing, zero zero zilt nothing nothing.
29:59
Speaker 1: So I I literally was speechless because I was like,
30:02
Speaker 1: why would you think the shopping event that was, you know,
30:06
Speaker 1: that would be a thing for your tequila? Like it
30:08
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. And by the way, if she
30:10
Speaker 1: had said to me, I'm gonna, you know, can we
30:13
Speaker 1: do something with my tequila at the event, I would
30:15
Speaker 1: have been happy to do that. Of course he was
30:17
Speaker 1: happy to do that, but it was never said to me.
30:19
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was there. And then, um, you
30:22
Speaker 1: know in the scene she says Kyle did nothing to
30:25
Speaker 1: stop Brenna. If you look back at that scene, if
30:27
Speaker 1: you guys have recorded this and you can go back,
30:30
Speaker 1: when Renna is ordering the tequila, I'm literally I didn't
30:34
Speaker 1: even hear her. I was tying my dog's lesia so
30:36
Speaker 1: she wouldn't run around Kimo Sabi. I was like, bending down.
30:39
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of this. I didn't even hear
30:41
Speaker 1: or know that. Yeah, so I was like when I
30:45
Speaker 1: saw that, you know, I was like, how does she
30:46
Speaker 1: expect me to to know this? Or and then once
30:50
Speaker 1: even if she had said to me, by the way,
30:51
Speaker 1: she just went, you know what am I supposed to do?
30:53
Speaker 1: Go over and say, uh, you don't do that. Take
30:56
Speaker 1: that back, like I didn't know what to do. Although
30:57
Speaker 1: also it's all over the internet. But that eight when
31:00
Speaker 1: it was brought in through like a rush, sure it
31:04
Speaker 1: was not the case. That for sure is not the case.
31:08
Speaker 1: I don't you know. Um yeah, that was not brought
31:10
Speaker 1: in to make a problem. It was you know, we
31:12
Speaker 1: go there a lot, as you know, and they have
31:14
Speaker 1: lots of tequila, is there? Um I think and by
31:17
Speaker 1: the way, a lot of people like that tequila, that
31:20
Speaker 1: Cathy's tequila. I did a test and believe me, I'm
31:24
Speaker 1: not I went in blindfolded and that was my favorite tequila. Yeah,
31:29
Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's a really good tequila. Um. But I
31:33
Speaker 1: think what what I was confused by in that moment
31:36
Speaker 1: when you're watching and seen she is mad at Rehnna.
31:39
Speaker 1: She and even brings it up. She's mocking Renna ordering
31:42
Speaker 1: the eight eight tequila. But then at the reunion it
31:45
Speaker 1: becomes your fault. Yeah, that's what I was upset about
31:48
Speaker 1: because that's a pattern. So you feel like you're consistent,
31:53
Speaker 1: like I mean, I feel like I can do no right. Yeah,
31:55
Speaker 1: it is the problem, and um, you know, there's a
31:59
Speaker 1: lot of history there and it's really hard, you know.
32:00
Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm quiet because it's easier for me in
32:04
Speaker 1: my life not to address these things, because I don't
32:07
Speaker 1: want to make things more complicated for me my family.
32:10
Speaker 1: Um So, if you wonder why sometimes I'm not speaking up,
32:14
Speaker 1: it's because what I'm going to say or what I
32:16
Speaker 1: could say, will make things more complicated for me. So
32:18
Speaker 1: I'd rather just uh, basically, put my hands behind my
32:23
Speaker 1: back and take it on the chin, on the chin,
32:25
Speaker 1: and deal with it because it's not worth it for me,
32:28
Speaker 1: Which is why Is that the same reason why you
32:31
Speaker 1: said to Rna, I don't want to know all the
32:33
Speaker 1: details about what she said. I knew enough and I
32:36
Speaker 1: didn't want to know anymore. I knew there was more
32:38
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to know anymore. And Kathy had said,
32:41
Speaker 1: you know, I said really bad things and I should
32:44
Speaker 1: not have and I just didn't want to. I didn't
32:47
Speaker 1: want to know anymore. I didn't, you know, And women,
32:50
Speaker 1: I never settle the things at the reunion. She didn't say.
32:52
Speaker 1: Um so she did protect Cathy and some capacity. She
32:57
Speaker 1: did not say all the things of the reunion. I'm
32:58
Speaker 1: gonna be like Erica right now. She didn't not saying,
33:00
Speaker 1: you guys, you like I'm going to say the same thing. Um,
33:05
Speaker 1: so yeah she um, she did not say all all
33:08
Speaker 1: the things uh and um yeah, so you know that.
33:14
Speaker 1: I just I didn't understand why I was getting blamed
33:17
Speaker 1: for that, because I mean, she was clearly upset with
33:20
Speaker 1: Marenna at the event at Chimo Sabi, but then it
33:24
Speaker 1: became about me, and I just it was just so
33:26
Speaker 1: crazy to me. I was the hostess, say, and then
33:28
Speaker 1: also she became upset with you at the club, even
33:31
Speaker 1: though that also wasn't you hear the story and you
33:35
Speaker 1: understand that is something that if you're used to getting
33:38
Speaker 1: a certain level of attention and you don't get it,
33:40
Speaker 1: then that may set somebody off. And I've seen that
33:43
Speaker 1: happen millions of times with with women in Beverly Hills
33:47
Speaker 1: that everybody knows who they are, and so you can
33:51
Speaker 1: see that happening. But then all of a sudden, coming
33:53
Speaker 1: back to you again, your problem. Well once again, it
33:58
Speaker 1: was the way she spoke to me, you know, um,
34:01
Speaker 1: and everyone saw that, but nobody spoke up at the reunion.
34:03
Speaker 1: Why did nobody speak up about that? I don't know,
34:06
Speaker 1: I don't I think I don't want to deal with it.
34:09
Speaker 1: But everyone saw well Diana said, you know, and I
34:12
Speaker 1: think her interview, she said, you know certain things, but um,
34:17
Speaker 1: what people don't realize is that, you know, we had,
34:19
Speaker 1: you know, given our coats to the coach check, and
34:22
Speaker 1: we had a security person with us who took all
34:24
Speaker 1: the tickets to our coach check to her for our coats.
34:27
Speaker 1: And then he left to go get the rest of
34:29
Speaker 1: people that we had invited to join us, which was
34:31
Speaker 1: like a block away. So he had the non housewives
34:35
Speaker 1: non housewives, okay, so he had the tickets to our
34:37
Speaker 1: coats in his pocket. He left, he said, I'm going
34:40
Speaker 1: to get your guests. I'll be back. He was going
34:42
Speaker 1: to walk down the block walk him into the club
34:43
Speaker 1: because it's a private club. Um, and we hadn't even sat.
34:47
Speaker 1: Diana just gave a credit card. And then Kathy came up.
34:50
Speaker 1: And you know, I said, when I said the reunion,
34:52
Speaker 1: how how she spoke to me and what she said
34:54
Speaker 1: about we're leaving right now, And you know, I think
34:57
Speaker 1: when you're the youngest to like sometimes i'm spoken to,
35:00
Speaker 1: I'm still like a little girl, like a baby, and um,
35:03
Speaker 1: it just was very disrespectful and and I take it
35:07
Speaker 1: so scared to talk because I feel like that's the headline,
35:09
Speaker 1: like my sister is disrespectful or if I say she
35:12
Speaker 1: was being mean hathy, So I get scared even speak.
35:14
Speaker 1: This is why I never do these things that because
35:16
Speaker 1: you're Maya, but I mean iriend I am. But that's
35:20
Speaker 1: what happened. And I was like, you can't talk to
35:21
Speaker 1: me like that. You're not going to talk to me
35:23
Speaker 1: like that, scream me like this in front of my
35:25
Speaker 1: friends and think I'm going to drop everything I have
35:28
Speaker 1: guests coming because you're not getting your way, you know.
35:32
Speaker 1: And that was It was plain and simple, and I
35:34
Speaker 1: think this also happens a lot in bigger families and
35:37
Speaker 1: and it's not talked about as I mean, I'll just
35:40
Speaker 1: talk to you about my family situation, you know. Um
35:43
Speaker 1: it was maybe two Christmases ago. I'm on a group
35:46
Speaker 1: chat with all my siblings. There's five of us, and
35:49
Speaker 1: they'll kind of always ask me to be the the
35:52
Speaker 1: ringleader of the ones that will like to talk to
35:54
Speaker 1: my dad about something. And I said something and it
35:57
Speaker 1: piste my dad off me detly, like I could almost
36:01
Speaker 1: cry just talking about right now, Like immediately he reamed
36:04
Speaker 1: me out so badly and told me that he was
36:07
Speaker 1: canceling Christmas on all of the siblings because of me,
36:11
Speaker 1: And none of the siblings said, like, actually, we all
36:14
Speaker 1: called Teddy. We all came to this agreement together. They
36:17
Speaker 1: left hanging. They left me hanging. And you know, it
36:22
Speaker 1: is a common thing to have these dynamics inside of
36:25
Speaker 1: your families, especially once your parents, Like I can't even
36:28
Speaker 1: imagine what your parents have passed away. We didn't have
36:31
Speaker 1: these problems in my mom. Yeah, like that, it's a difference,
36:34
Speaker 1: and and not to be able to to resolve them.
36:38
Speaker 1: And and I mean, I remember I called you crying.
36:41
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do I do? Do I write a letter?
36:43
Speaker 1: I feel like all my siblings are mad at me now.
36:45
Speaker 1: And when you feel like you're in that place, you
36:48
Speaker 1: have two options. You neither choose the way that I
36:50
Speaker 1: feel like maybe Erica handles thing, which is through anger
36:54
Speaker 1: and through showing like zero empathy, or the way that
36:56
Speaker 1: we saw Kyle handle it at the reunion, which is
36:59
Speaker 1: through tears and through sadness and through like well the
37:01
Speaker 1: problem is okay. So a couple of things, like like
37:04
Speaker 1: I should say a lot of people have said, like
37:06
Speaker 1: the main thing I hear is, why didn't you defend
37:09
Speaker 1: your sister when you are hurt by somebody? Like you know,
37:14
Speaker 1: it's not always so cut and dry. You know, I'm
37:17
Speaker 1: not subscribing to the idea that you stick with family
37:21
Speaker 1: no matter what, because sometimes when you're treated really poorly,
37:25
Speaker 1: you have to take a step back, regardless of regardless
37:28
Speaker 1: of whether you know it's blood or not. And you know, um,
37:32
Speaker 1: you have to have boundaries. And if you don't know
37:35
Speaker 1: the whole story, you can't know why I wasn't jumping
37:37
Speaker 1: in and defending, you know, not defending. So you know,
37:42
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people messaged me saying, I understand
37:44
Speaker 1: this dynamic. I understand it sometimes with family, even even
37:47
Speaker 1: though it's your blood. You know, um, you don't. It's
37:51
Speaker 1: not no matter what blood, you get to chick me
37:53
Speaker 1: however you want, because we're blood. And I'm gonna have
37:55
Speaker 1: to take that because we're blood. I'm gonna stick by
37:57
Speaker 1: you no matter what, because we're blood. You know, I
37:59
Speaker 1: if you're mistreated or mistreated, and um, and I you
38:05
Speaker 1: know that's how I feel. And I was just at
38:07
Speaker 1: that point, you know, really really upset, and you know,
38:11
Speaker 1: you know, hearing the things that was hearing and obviously
38:14
Speaker 1: defensive of you know, my family might meaning my husband
38:17
Speaker 1: and my children, and you know I didn't. I didn't
38:20
Speaker 1: want to, but I just didn't want to. I was like,
38:23
Speaker 1: why would I when I'm hearing this and she's saying
38:26
Speaker 1: I I did, And you know, I was happy that
38:28
Speaker 1: she apologized. I accepted it. You know, I'll be it
38:33
Speaker 1: was always on camera. I was like, okay, Um, I
38:36
Speaker 1: think some people thought I asked her on cameracause people
38:38
Speaker 1: like why, because she kept saying you wanted on camera.
38:40
Speaker 1: I didn't know she wanted to. Okay, I mean, yeah,
38:45
Speaker 1: you have to clear that up. Yeah, I mean, but
38:47
Speaker 1: by the way, another thing quickly is that you know,
38:51
Speaker 1: Kathy said at the reunion, you made me apologize Torenna,
38:55
Speaker 1: And then they flashed back to me saying, she's coming
38:57
Speaker 1: if you want to, and she said, I want to.
38:58
Speaker 1: I want to apologize to her. Um, So I was like,
39:01
Speaker 1: there again. Then I was blame for her apologizing to
39:04
Speaker 1: Renna because it didn't go the way she wanted. But
39:07
Speaker 1: if it had gone the way she wanted, you know,
39:09
Speaker 1: but I think something else we have to point out,
39:11
Speaker 1: which yes, you are in a tricky situation because you
39:14
Speaker 1: are the only housewife that has a sibling on and
39:18
Speaker 1: has had multiple siblings on this show, which yes, you
39:22
Speaker 1: can get a lot of heap for because things haven't
39:24
Speaker 1: always gone right, but you're not forcing your siblings to
39:28
Speaker 1: join the show. You have to know that when going
39:30
Speaker 1: on a reality television show, you have zero Whoever goes
39:34
Speaker 1: on has zero control of what is going to play.
39:38
Speaker 1: By the way, just to be clear too, when I,
39:40
Speaker 1: you know, suggested my sister Kim for the Housewives, I
39:43
Speaker 1: was already signed on to do the show, I had
39:46
Speaker 1: only good intentions, you know. Um, I wanted her to
39:49
Speaker 1: have you know, working I wanted I thought I was
39:52
Speaker 1: gonna help her, you know, stand the right track. I
39:55
Speaker 1: thought it'd be great for us and be fun, you know.
39:58
Speaker 1: I mean, I had high hopes. And by the way,
40:00
Speaker 1: we did have a lot of fun too, and him
40:02
Speaker 1: and I are are great right now. Um. And then
40:05
Speaker 1: with Kathy too, you know, um, I wanted her on
40:08
Speaker 1: the show to have fun with her. And you know,
40:10
Speaker 1: a lot of people said to me, do you think
40:12
Speaker 1: that's a good idea, you know, because of the history,
40:14
Speaker 1: and you know, and I said, you know, a really
40:16
Speaker 1: good place and I really don't see us going down
40:18
Speaker 1: that path again. Um, I only had good intentions. I
40:21
Speaker 1: only want her to come on to have fun with
40:24
Speaker 1: me and to laugh and to bond. Um. I had
40:27
Speaker 1: no idea what's gonna happen, and Aspen I, I couldn't
40:29
Speaker 1: have predicted that. The problem with reality television is the
40:32
Speaker 1: truth always comes out one way or the other regardless.
40:35
Speaker 1: If I wanted to go on a show and pretend
40:37
Speaker 1: that I was always easy going, it would be impossible
40:40
Speaker 1: that that's not who I am. But see, it's also
40:42
Speaker 1: not just happened there, it's what's happened since then. Because
40:45
Speaker 1: I could have got the apology, I could have been
40:48
Speaker 1: good and done with. But then it starts people taking
40:52
Speaker 1: to social media and clips and then um and it's like, oh, okay,
40:57
Speaker 1: but you know, like people getting upset didn't jump in
41:00
Speaker 1: and you know say something like Renna, how dare you
41:03
Speaker 1: you know, call out my sister or whatever. But you know,
41:06
Speaker 1: I have blood family like liking mean tweets about me. Yeah,
41:10
Speaker 1: I mean she liking tweets saying that I should be
41:12
Speaker 1: fired of the show I've been on for twelve years.
41:15
Speaker 1: I brought my sister and to have fun with her.
41:16
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what is this? Why is there this
41:19
Speaker 1: double standard? So you know that's not I don't think
41:23
Speaker 1: people are I mean. And Kathy also liked the tweet,
41:27
Speaker 1: and I hate I'm sorry, but like she liked the tweet.
41:30
Speaker 1: Why would Kyle let Renna do this? Understand one thing,
41:33
Speaker 1: she has not let them do it. She is behind
41:35
Speaker 1: them doing it. It's how she operated all along. People
41:38
Speaker 1: still are saying it. Renna attempts to destroy her acquaintances.
41:41
Speaker 1: Kyle does the same to her own family and friends.
41:43
Speaker 1: She will do anything for money and social status, whether
41:46
Speaker 1: it's laughing at fourteen year old black boy getting really
41:49
Speaker 1: abused and cheering it on with her husband, or destroying
41:52
Speaker 1: her sister Kim at her most vulnerable. There is nothing
41:55
Speaker 1: too low for contratards. And this is liked by Kathy.
41:58
Speaker 1: This is where I will have my issues and continue
42:00
Speaker 1: to speak about this because I don't care how upset
42:04
Speaker 1: I am at one of my family members. I would
42:06
Speaker 1: never do. I would never do. So I'm going to
42:08
Speaker 1: tell you about that. When I first saw that, I said,
42:11
Speaker 1: I thought she tweeted that, and I said someone must
42:13
Speaker 1: have packed her. She would never do that. She would
42:14
Speaker 1: never do that. Um, I sent it to her and
42:18
Speaker 1: she said I liked that by accident, just like she
42:22
Speaker 1: didn't actually get Lisa Reyna's text. But the ma Andy
42:25
Speaker 1: pulled up with the reunion, Well, I'm just telling you
42:27
Speaker 1: she said she did. She said she had liked it
42:29
Speaker 1: by accident. Um. You know even Kim will tell you.
42:33
Speaker 1: You know that being on the Housewives helped her. And
42:37
Speaker 1: you know I'm not going to go back in time.
42:39
Speaker 1: You cannot understand family dynamics. You can think you do
42:42
Speaker 1: because you've watched the show. You have no idea what
42:44
Speaker 1: happens behind closed doors. You have no idea the history.
42:47
Speaker 1: I am not about to come and explain the history
42:51
Speaker 1: to everybody to make my life more complicated. So if
42:54
Speaker 1: I have to have people hate me for thinking a
42:57
Speaker 1: certain thing, um, I'll take it. I'd rather have people
43:00
Speaker 1: that don't know me think I'm an asshole to deal
43:02
Speaker 1: with more problems with my own blood. By speaking up. Hey,
43:07
Speaker 1: you know, you know I will have my husband to
43:09
Speaker 1: say why didn't you speak up and say this? Because
43:12
Speaker 1: it will make it worse. It could be one month
43:15
Speaker 1: of not talking or ten years. So what's better for me? Yeah, Well,
43:20
Speaker 1: stepping away from Kathy and looking at the I mean,
43:23
Speaker 1: how many other women for seven other women, Yeah, that
43:27
Speaker 1: were on those couches when they were seeing you struggling.
43:31
Speaker 1: When they were seeing you, nobody was really saying anything.
43:35
Speaker 1: I think that comes with that is when um and
43:38
Speaker 1: this is where this is what I have an issue
43:40
Speaker 1: with because I've been on the show so long and
43:42
Speaker 1: I see things that maybe other people don't see. But
43:46
Speaker 1: when someone on the show is liked, people don't like
43:49
Speaker 1: to go up against them. So I mean used to
43:51
Speaker 1: see that a lot with Lisa vander Pump or you know,
43:53
Speaker 1: they're like, you know people do with me of a
43:56
Speaker 1: with emia, Like they don't want to think, they don't
43:57
Speaker 1: want to fight with me because it's going to create
43:58
Speaker 1: an issue or something. Not always I think that all
44:02
Speaker 1: of them were like, well, if we say Kathy did
44:05
Speaker 1: this or was you know, not nice to Kyle, then
44:07
Speaker 1: people are gonna hate us because they like her and
44:09
Speaker 1: people are mad at Kyle right now. So I saw,
44:12
Speaker 1: I see through all that. So it's just pandering through Twitter.
44:15
Speaker 1: So for you, it's easier to just remove yourself from
44:18
Speaker 1: seeing any I don't look at Twitter. I I don't
44:20
Speaker 1: follow uh hashtag r H O B H or my name.
44:24
Speaker 1: I don't have a Google alert. I am right now
44:27
Speaker 1: protecting my mental health. And for people to think they
44:31
Speaker 1: know about me or they know the situation and they're
44:34
Speaker 1: mad at me. Hey, I mean, like my husband always says,
44:37
Speaker 1: and my family says, you know, we know the truth,
44:40
Speaker 1: and you know who you are, and and and I'm
44:42
Speaker 1: just gonna say this for Kyle and you guys can
44:44
Speaker 1: always People won't even get mad that we're close because
44:48
Speaker 1: they'll say, like, you know, Kyle's you know friends are teddy,
44:51
Speaker 1: that nat or whatever it is that they want to
44:53
Speaker 1: call me from week to week. But I want to
44:55
Speaker 1: tell you that when things go down with me or
44:58
Speaker 1: any of our other friends so are either on or
45:01
Speaker 1: off the show, you are the first person that's ever there.
45:05
Speaker 1: So I don't like when people put out there that
45:09
Speaker 1: you are not always leading with your heart and the
45:12
Speaker 1: most kind and the most like the fact that you know,
45:15
Speaker 1: we talked about how what a hard asked my dad is,
45:17
Speaker 1: but the fact that he called me, you know, after
45:19
Speaker 1: my surgery and says, you know how much it means
45:21
Speaker 1: to me that you have Kyle there with you tonight,
45:24
Speaker 1: that she's helping you, That she's doing that, Like you
45:27
Speaker 1: have a family away from your family, and that is
45:29
Speaker 1: so important and so I just that is one of
45:33
Speaker 1: those things. And you're a family that we go up
45:34
Speaker 1: to your house and your relationship with your kids and
45:37
Speaker 1: your girls and the way that you guys bring people
45:40
Speaker 1: into your home and make them feel loved. Not everyone
45:43
Speaker 1: can do that and that's not an act. Well thank you, um,
45:47
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean it's weird because on the show,
45:49
Speaker 1: like you know, of course you do know us after
45:51
Speaker 1: all these years, but you know also what they let
45:54
Speaker 1: you see. And I remember I was asked at Brovocn,
45:57
Speaker 1: like what is something we don't know about like three?
46:00
Speaker 1: And you know you see pieces of us, But what
46:03
Speaker 1: people don't know about like three is you know she's
46:06
Speaker 1: really sweet girl. You know if you're sick, she will
46:09
Speaker 1: little bit like I'll bring you soup. You know. You
46:11
Speaker 1: know she's that kind of a person. And you I mean,
46:13
Speaker 1: like you're the most genuine, down to earth I mean,
46:16
Speaker 1: like raw, Like that's why we bonded immediately when you
46:19
Speaker 1: first came on the show. Um, this zero bullshit or pretense.
46:24
Speaker 1: I think on the show you held back a lot.
46:26
Speaker 1: I'm a different person now. I feel that's the thing.
46:28
Speaker 1: It's like I used to say, like, you don't know
46:30
Speaker 1: Teddy the way I know Teddy, because you started telling me,
46:33
Speaker 1: don't be rev ted be like be yourself. You came
46:36
Speaker 1: in like I have a mission. I have to say this,
46:38
Speaker 1: I have to do this because I have to make
46:39
Speaker 1: a point about and you were very like instead of
46:41
Speaker 1: just like it was new to you too, it was new.
46:45
Speaker 1: It was a completely different realm of women like that.
46:49
Speaker 1: You know all my girlfriends that aren't on the show.
46:51
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. And when you go in from
46:54
Speaker 1: being it was like a culture shock for me, it
46:58
Speaker 1: is and like you know, I was forever twenty one
47:01
Speaker 1: and everybody else's Birkin's like there was like it was
47:04
Speaker 1: just a different phase of my life. And I'm so
47:07
Speaker 1: happy that I've been able to grow and learn. Well.
47:09
Speaker 1: I had dinner the other night with um Chris Collin,
47:11
Speaker 1: who was our showrunning for all those years, and we
47:13
Speaker 1: got so much and Alex Baskin, our executive producer, and
47:15
Speaker 1: you know ore the man behind the magic is people
47:18
Speaker 1: like to say about Alex Baskin, And we were lappy
47:21
Speaker 1: about season one. How I mean, I was like that too.
47:23
Speaker 1: I mean the first season, I was nervous. I remember
47:26
Speaker 1: getting so stressed because Lisa Vanna Pump can't tease me.
47:30
Speaker 1: I had an open house and this is before the
47:32
Speaker 1: show was like famous, and Lisa Vandam came over and
47:36
Speaker 1: the dogs were jumping on all the people coming to
47:38
Speaker 1: open house. I put my dogs in the laundry room,
47:40
Speaker 1: so she used to She used to joke and say,
47:42
Speaker 1: I'm going to say you lock your dogs up in
47:43
Speaker 1: the laundro room. I was so worried about that, and
47:46
Speaker 1: she would make jokes. I was like, quit doing that,
47:48
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm gonna get hate about my dog.
47:49
Speaker 1: And I mean, that was the stuff I worried about. Then.
47:52
Speaker 1: Can you remember the joy I would have about that?
47:54
Speaker 1: But I was, you know, you're new to this. I
47:57
Speaker 1: was like, you know, what if someone says their grandmother
47:59
Speaker 1: died and it cuts you laughing, but you're laughing about
48:01
Speaker 1: something else, so you're so tight, and then you realize
48:05
Speaker 1: I just had to let go and let let you
48:07
Speaker 1: know myself so and realize that not everything is perfect.
48:10
Speaker 1: Like I I even think back to my you know,
48:12
Speaker 1: we won't get into it now, but like even think
48:14
Speaker 1: back to my relationship with my husband my first season,
48:17
Speaker 1: and things were really freaking hard, and I never talked
48:20
Speaker 1: about it with you guys because I didn't feel comfortable.
48:23
Speaker 1: But like I wish now, like, wow, why didn't I
48:26
Speaker 1: open up and show people that you're not alone and
48:29
Speaker 1: no matter what you're going through, no matter if you're
48:30
Speaker 1: going to postpartum, no matter if you're having issues in
48:32
Speaker 1: your marriage and what it is, And that's really what
48:35
Speaker 1: as now someone who watches the show, that's what I
48:39
Speaker 1: want to get back to watching. I want to get
48:41
Speaker 1: back to watching the real ship, the fun stuff, like
48:45
Speaker 1: all the wild things, Like I want to see the
48:47
Speaker 1: good and the bad and the ugly from everybody, but
48:50
Speaker 1: less like it feels so less bad and ugly and
48:53
Speaker 1: just fun. Yeah, we do a lot like the bad
48:55
Speaker 1: and ugly, like the petty stuff, you know, like it
48:58
Speaker 1: doesn't need to get to this, no please, it's so
49:01
Speaker 1: it's really stressful, but I mean I really don't. I mean, honestly,
49:05
Speaker 1: people always like why are you still there? Why is it?
49:07
Speaker 1: But I mean we do have fun, but it is
49:09
Speaker 1: very You're you're the clue that holds everybody together. Um,
49:12
Speaker 1: and I know we're out of time. But the final
49:14
Speaker 1: question it's a fan question. It's after all the tequila drama.
49:20
Speaker 1: Do you think it was shady that Andy did the
49:22
Speaker 1: final toast with a vodka soda carcass out? It's so funny.
49:30
Speaker 1: I didn't. That's another thing I didn't realize until I
49:33
Speaker 1: saw it on television because I was already thinking, get
49:35
Speaker 1: me out of her, get me out of her, get
49:37
Speaker 1: me out of here. That is pretty funny. I have
49:38
Speaker 1: to say, I'm now looking back and you know, like
49:41
Speaker 1: I said, you know, my sister's tequila is great. And
49:44
Speaker 1: I do want to end this by saying I love
49:46
Speaker 1: my family no matter what. Um my sister's you know,
49:50
Speaker 1: my sister's kids and their kids, like I said, and um,
49:53
Speaker 1: I just I just hope that that doesn't get lost
49:56
Speaker 1: in all this. So I want, I just want to
49:58
Speaker 1: finish on that note that you know, even if I
50:00
Speaker 1: can get upset or be hurt. Um, I love my family.
50:03
Speaker 1: I know I know you do, and I know how
50:05
Speaker 1: important your relationship is with them. And I also appreciate
50:09
Speaker 1: our friendship and how much you've given to my family,
50:11
Speaker 1: our life, and for showing up to this pod last minute.
50:15
Speaker 1: And you guys, thank you so much for tuning in
50:17
Speaker 1: to another two teas in a pod with myself, Teddy
50:19
Speaker 1: Mella Camp and Kyle Richards. We will be back on
50:23
Speaker 1: Monday to discuss all things Potomac and Salt Lake City.
50:26
Speaker 1: Bye bye,