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The Peter Nicholas Interview Part Three · Team of the eighties

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  Mate,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  didn't
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  really
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  watch
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  them
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  much
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  in
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  the.
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  In
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  the
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  Coppola.
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  I've
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  got
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  to
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  be
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  honest,
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  it
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  just
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  didn't
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  do
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  much
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  for
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  me,
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  you
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  know,
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  it
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  really
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  did.
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  Just
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  a
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  long
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  ballish
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  team
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  really
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  full
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  of
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  energy.
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  I
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  mean
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  that's
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  a
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  good
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  player.
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  I
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  mean
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  there's
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  a
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  good
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  players.
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  Right.
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  He
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  went
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  on,
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  obviously
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  he
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  left
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  a
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  good
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  last.
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  Sure.
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  He
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  had
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  good
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  money
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  for
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  him.
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  Sure.
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  But
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  one
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  thing
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  I
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  must
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  say,
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  Gary,
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  the
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  supporters
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  of
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  that
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  football
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  club
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  have
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  always
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  been
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  beyond
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  Crystal
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  Palace.
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  Yeah.
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  No,
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  get
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  away
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  from
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  it.
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  Yeah.
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  There's
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  always
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  never
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  been
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  a
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  dull
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  time
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  where.
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  No,
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  they
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  love
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  the
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  club.
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  Most
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  clubs
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  where
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  they've
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  clubbed
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  the
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  standard
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  of
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  supporters
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  turning
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  up
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  the
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  game
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  on
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  a
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  Saturday,
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  it's
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  dropped
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  to
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  like
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  8,000
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  where
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  they've
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  always
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  had
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  18,
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  20.
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  No,
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  they
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  love
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  the
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  club.
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  I
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  mean,
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  listen
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  though,
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  there's
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  a
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  couple
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  of
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  things
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  first
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  of
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  all
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  but
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  after,
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  after
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  them,
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  obviously
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  there
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  ain't
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  another
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  club
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  till
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  brighton
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  which
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  is
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  50
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  odd
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  miles
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  away.
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  But
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  they
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  are
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  very
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  supportive
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  of
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  the
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  club.
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  I
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  think
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  in
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  the
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  last
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  few
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  years
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  maybe
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  they've
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  got
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  to
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  expect
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  too
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  much
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  because
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  at
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  the
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  end
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  of
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  the
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  day
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  they're
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  still
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  Crystal
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  palace
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  and
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  you
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  know,
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  open
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  for
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  them.
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  I'm
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  a
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  great
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  believer.
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  They're
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  a
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  selling
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  club,
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  aren't
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  they?
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  Yeah,
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  if
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  you've
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  got
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  to
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  look
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  at
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  it
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  really.
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  Yeah.
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  To
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  turn
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  out
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  the
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  players
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  they've
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  turned
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  out.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  sold
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  them
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  on.
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  If
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  you
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  look
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  all
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  through
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  the
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  history.
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  Of
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  the
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  club,
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  great
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  business
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  over
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  the
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  years.
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  Great
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  business.
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  They're
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  selling
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  club
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  really.
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  And
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  you
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  can't
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  keep
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  getting
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  a
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  selling
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  club.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  be
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  successful
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  as
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  well.
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  Correct.
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  You
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  can't
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  be
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  like
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  that.
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  They're
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  a
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  good
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  side
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  of
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  watching
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  them.
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  I
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  think
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  they'll
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  lose
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  their
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  manager
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  at
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  the
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  end
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  of
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  the
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  year.
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  Y.
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  I
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  think
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  he's.
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  He's
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  realized
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  that
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  he's
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  selling
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  my
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  best
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  players,
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  which
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  they
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  have.
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  They
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  show
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  three
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  players
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  this
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  summer
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  or
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  the
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  last
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  year
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  have
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  gone
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  on
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  and
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  then
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  three
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  players
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  have
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  been
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  outstanding.
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  Yeah.
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  World
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  class
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  players.
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  Well,
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  not
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  world
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  class
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  but
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  top,
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  top
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  players.
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  But
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  honestly
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  though,
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  mate,
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  where,
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  where
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  he's
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  concerned,
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  Glasner
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  and
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  I've
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  talked
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  about
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  this.
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  I
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  think
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  his
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  stock
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  was
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  a
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  lot
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  higher
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  at
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  the
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  beginning
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  of
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  the
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  year
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  than
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  it
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  is
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  now
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  because
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  you
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  know
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  there's
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  certain
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  teams
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  finding
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  him
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  out
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  how
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  he
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  can
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  play
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  against
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  them
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  if
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  they
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  play
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  low,
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  you.
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  Know,
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  to
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  win
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  the
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  FA
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  cup
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  like
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  they
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  did
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  last
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  year
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  for
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  palace
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  to
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  win
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  a
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  cup
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  and
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  then
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  go
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  and
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  win
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  a
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  Charlie
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  Shield
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  as
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  well.
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  Yeah,
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  brilliant.
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  Come
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  on,
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  you
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  can.
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  I
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  Don't
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  think
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  you
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  can
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  knock
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  the
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  manager.
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  Anybody
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  can
• 2:14
  knock
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  that
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  manager.
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  I
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  think
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  he's
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  done
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  what
• 2:16
  he's
• 2:16
  done.
• 2:16
  I
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  think
• 2:17
  he's
• 2:17
  got
• 2:17
  a
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  situation
• 2:18
  where
• 2:18
  he
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  thinks
• 2:18
  well
• 2:19
  you
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  really
• 2:20
  are
• 2:20
  selling
• 2:21
  club.
• 2:21
  I
• 2:21
  want
• 2:21
  to
• 2:22
  keep
• 2:22
  my
• 2:22
  best
• 2:22
  players,
• 2:22
  I
• 2:23
  want
• 2:23
  to
• 2:23
  improve
• 2:23
  it.
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  And
• 2:25
  you're
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  letting
• 2:26
  their
• 2:26
  contracts
• 2:26
  run
• 2:26
  it
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  or
• 2:27
  you
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  know,
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  you
• 2:28
  got
• 2:28
  to
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  up
• 2:29
  the
• 2:29
  wage
• 2:29
  a
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  bit
• 2:29
  more
• 2:30
  to
• 2:30
  keep.
• 2:30
  Your
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  best
• 2:30
  players
• 2:31
  100%
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  mate.
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  And
• 2:32
  he's
• 2:33
  obviously
• 2:33
  his
• 2:33
  ambition
• 2:33
  is
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  to
• 2:35
  either
• 2:35
  go
• 2:36
  on
• 2:36
  and
• 2:36
  try
• 2:36
  and
• 2:36
  win
• 2:36
  the
• 2:36
  league
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  and
• 2:37
  I
• 2:37
  mean
• 2:37
  that
• 2:37
  must
• 2:37
  be
• 2:38
  so
• 2:38
  every
• 2:38
  managers
• 2:39
  ambition
• 2:39
  TR
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  in
• 2:40
  the
• 2:40
  Premier
• 2:40
  League
• 2:40
  of
• 2:41
  sort
• 2:41
  of
• 2:42
  going
• 2:42
  back
• 2:43
  to
• 2:43
  the
• 2:43
  early
• 2:43
  days
• 2:44
  I
• 2:44
  found
• 2:44
  out
• 2:45
  that
• 2:45
  Malcolm
• 2:46
  who
• 2:46
  came
• 2:47
  to
• 2:47
  my
• 2:47
  40th,
• 2:48
  40th
• 2:49
  birthday
• 2:50
  bash.
• 2:51
  Wow.
• 2:51
  Malcolm.
• 2:51
  I
• 2:52
  invited
• 2:52
  Malcolm.
• 2:52
  Terry
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  didn't
• 2:54
  come.
• 2:54
  Only
• 2:54
  Warren
• 2:55
  came.
• 2:55
  No,
• 2:55
  Terry
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  did
• 2:56
  come.
• 2:56
  Malcolm
• 2:57
  came.
• 2:58
  I
• 2:58
  ended
• 2:58
  up
• 2:58
  in
• 2:58
  the
• 2:59
  club
• 2:59
  up
• 2:59
  in
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  at
• 3:00
  West
• 3:00
  End.
• 3:00
  We
• 3:01
  ended
• 3:01
  up
• 3:01
  in.
• 3:02
  Would
• 3:03
  you
• 3:03
  remember
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  club?
• 3:04
  Selenski's.
• 3:05
  Yeah.
• 3:07
  Spelensky's
• 3:08
  Balloon
• 3:09
  SM
• 3:10
  club.
• 3:11
  Yeah,
• 3:11
  I
• 3:11
  remember
• 3:11
  it
• 3:11
  mate.
• 3:12
  Yeah.
• 3:12
  Unfortunately.
• 3:13
  Unfortunately
• 3:14
  I
• 3:14
  remember
• 3:14
  all
• 3:14
  the
• 3:15
  clubs
• 3:15
  Nico.
• 3:16
  Yes.
• 3:17
  Nothing
• 3:17
  wrong
• 3:17
  with
• 3:17
  that
• 3:17
  mate.
• 3:18
  Nothing
• 3:18
  wrong
• 3:19
  with
• 3:19
  that.
• 3:19
  So
• 3:19
  we
• 3:19
  used
• 3:20
  to
• 3:20
  go,
• 3:20
  we
• 3:20
  went
• 3:20
  to
• 3:20
  SIS
• 3:21
  and
• 3:21
  we
• 3:21
  had
• 3:21
  a
• 3:21
  table
• 3:22
  there
• 3:22
  and
• 3:23
  we
• 3:23
  had
• 3:23
  a
• 3:23
  lovely
• 3:23
  evening.
• 3:24
  Malcolm
• 3:25
  was
• 3:26
  finished
• 3:26
  then
• 3:26
  M
• 3:27
  was
• 3:27
  coming
• 3:27
  down.
• 3:28
  We
• 3:28
  got
• 3:28
  him
• 3:28
  a
• 3:28
  couple
• 3:28
  cigars
• 3:29
  and
• 3:29
  you
• 3:30
  got
• 3:30
  a
• 3:30
  brandy
• 3:30
  with
• 3:31
  Terry
• 3:31
  and
• 3:31
  we
• 3:32
  had
• 3:32
  a
• 3:32
  good
• 3:32
  time
• 3:33
  and.
• 3:35
  And
• 3:35
  then
• 3:35
  I
• 3:35
  finally
• 3:35
  got
• 3:35
  it
• 3:36
  got
• 3:36
  out
• 3:37
  exactly
• 3:37
  what
• 3:37
  was
• 3:38
  all
• 3:38
  about
• 3:38
  the
• 3:38
  plan
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  actual
• 3:40
  plan
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  Crystal
• 3:40
  palace
• 3:41
  was
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  team
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  the
• 3:42
  80s.
• 3:42
  Yeah.
• 3:43
  Was
• 3:43
  Malcolm
• 3:44
  went
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  chairman
• 3:45
  Raymond
• 3:46
  Bloy
• 3:47
  and
• 3:47
  asked
• 3:47
  him
• 3:48
  for
• 3:48
  a.
• 3:49
  He
• 3:49
  said
• 3:50
  I
• 3:50
  want
• 3:50
  to
• 3:50
  sign
• 3:50
  the
• 3:51
  best
• 3:51
  if
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  can.
• 3:52
  We
• 3:53
  think
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  best
• 3:54
  15
• 3:54
  kids
• 3:55
  in
• 3:55
  great
• 3:55
  Britain.
• 3:57
  Wow.
• 3:59
  And
• 3:59
  he
• 3:59
  gave
• 3:59
  him
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  dough
• 4:00
  to
• 4:00
  do
• 4:00
  that.
• 4:00
  Think
• 4:01
  back
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  all
• 4:01
  the
• 4:02
  sense
• 4:02
  of.
• 4:04
  He
• 4:04
  said
• 4:05
  well
• 4:05
  go
• 4:05
  and
• 4:05
  do
• 4:06
  it.
• 4:06
  He
• 4:06
  said
• 4:06
  yeah,
• 4:06
  but
• 4:07
  I.
• 4:07
  I'll
• 4:07
  need
• 4:07
  you
• 4:08
  know,
• 4:08
  a
• 4:08
  bit
• 4:08
  of
• 4:08
  cash.
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  would
• 4:09
  have
• 4:09
  thought
• 4:09
  a
• 4:09
  bit
• 4:09
  of
• 4:09
  money
• 4:09
  to
• 4:10
  try
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  yeah
• 4:11
  persuade
• 4:11
  these
• 4:12
  people
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  come
• 4:12
  and
• 4:13
  leave
• 4:13
  their
• 4:13
  countries
• 4:13
  or
• 4:14
  leave
• 4:14
  it.
• 4:14
  Yeah.
• 4:15
  It
• 4:15
  was
• 4:15
  just.
• 4:16
  And
• 4:16
  that's
• 4:17
  what
• 4:17
  happened.
• 4:17
  It
• 4:18
  wasn't
• 4:18
  just
• 4:18
  a
• 4:18
  bit
• 4:18
  of
• 4:18
  money.
• 4:19
  It
• 4:19
  was
• 4:19
  like
• 4:20
  it
• 4:20
  was
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  ambition
• 4:20
  of
• 4:21
  Malcolm
• 4:21
  wanted
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  do
• 4:22
  to
• 4:22
  go
• 4:22
  out
• 4:22
  and
• 4:22
  get.
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  said
• 4:24
  he
• 4:24
  must
• 4:24
  have
• 4:24
  gone
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  him
• 4:25
  and
• 4:25
  said
• 4:25
  Raven
• 4:25
  Blood,
• 4:26
  if
• 4:26
  you
• 4:26
  really
• 4:26
  want
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  bet
• 4:27
  good
• 4:27
  side
• 4:28
  it's
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  good
• 4:28
  and
• 4:28
  get
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  best
• 4:29
  kids.
• 4:29
  And
• 4:30
  what
• 4:30
  was
• 4:30
  it
• 4:30
  bringing
• 4:30
  through?
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  mean
• 4:31
  and
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  system,
• 4:32
  the
• 4:33
  system
• 4:33
  he
• 4:33
  had
• 4:33
  was
• 4:34
  the
• 4:34
  Dutch
• 4:34
  system
• 4:35
  which
• 4:35
  was
• 4:35
  fantastic
• 4:36
  at
• 4:36
  that
• 4:36
  time.
• 4:36
  Yeah,
• 4:37
  was
• 4:38
  actually.
• 4:38
  He
• 4:38
  was
• 4:38
  so
• 4:39
  far,
• 4:39
  so
• 4:40
  far
• 4:40
  ahead
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  his
• 4:40
  time.
• 4:41
  Peter
• 4:41
  Malcolm
• 4:42
  Allison.
• 4:43
  So
• 4:43
  far
• 4:43
  ahead
• 4:43
  of
• 4:44
  his
• 4:44
  time.
• 4:44
  I
• 4:45
  want
• 4:45
  to
• 4:45
  go
• 4:45
  back
• 4:46
  to.
• 4:46
  Because
• 4:47
  it's
• 4:47
  always
• 4:48
  talked
• 4:48
  about
• 4:49
  when
• 4:49
  you.
• 4:50
  The
• 4:50
  day
• 4:50
  you
• 4:50
  left
• 4:51
  palace
• 4:51
  and
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  went
• 4:51
  over
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  Arsenal
• 4:52
  and
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  walked
• 4:53
  in
• 4:54
  that
• 4:54
  building
• 4:55
  to.
• 4:55
  To.
• 4:56
  To
• 4:56
  sign
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  first
• 4:57
  date.
• 4:58
  Can
• 4:58
  you
• 4:58
  remember
• 4:58
  like
• 4:59
  looking
• 4:59
  around
• 4:59
  and
• 4:59
  thinking,
• 5:00
  wow,
• 5:00
  this
• 5:00
  is
• 5:01
  some
• 5:01
  club.
• 5:01
  This
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  it.
• 5:02
  That
• 5:02
  type
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  feeling,
• 5:05
  Gary,
• 5:05
  that's
• 5:05
  all.
• 5:06
  I'll
• 5:06
  say
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  you.
• 5:06
  It
• 5:07
  was
• 5:07
  like
• 5:08
  having.
• 5:10
  Not
• 5:10
  knives
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  forks,
• 5:12
  silver
• 5:12
  knives
• 5:13
  and
• 5:13
  forks
• 5:13
  and
• 5:13
  grants.
• 5:14
  Yeah.
• 5:15
  Everything
• 5:15
  was
• 5:15
  done
• 5:16
  at
• 5:17
  Arsenal,
• 5:18
  first
• 5:19
  class.
• 5:19
  And
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  standards
• 5:21
  of
• 5:21
  that
• 5:21
  club
• 5:22
  was
• 5:23
  unbelievable.
• 5:23
  Yeah.
• 5:24
  Everyone
• 5:24
  talks
• 5:24
  about
• 5:25
  every
• 5:25
  day.
• 5:26
  Every
• 5:26
  day
• 5:27
  we
• 5:27
  go
• 5:27
  in
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  you
• 5:28
  would
• 5:28
  have
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  train
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  a
• 5:30
  standard
• 5:32
  of
• 5:32
  what
• 5:32
  they
• 5:33
  expect
• 5:33
  if
• 5:33
  you
• 5:34
  did.
• 5:34
  Didn't.
• 5:35
  And
• 5:35
  that's
• 5:35
  one
• 5:36
  thing
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  would
• 5:36
  say
• 5:36
  about
• 5:36
  Don
• 5:37
  Hill.
• 5:37
  If
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  didn't,
• 5:38
  Don
• 5:39
  would
• 5:39
  have
• 5:39
  you
• 5:39
  in
• 5:39
  and
• 5:40
  come
• 5:40
  to
• 5:40
  you
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  bodily.
• 5:41
  Yeah,
• 5:42
  yeah,
• 5:42
  that,
• 5:43
  that.
• 5:43
  Sadly,
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  think
• 5:44
  a
• 5:44
  lot
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  that
• 5:44
  is
• 5:44
  missing
• 5:45
  these
• 5:45
  days
• 5:45
  where
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  come
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  next
• 5:46
  day
• 5:46
  and
• 5:46
  you.
• 5:47
  You
• 5:47
  get
• 5:47
  this
• 5:48
  standard
• 5:48
  was
• 5:48
  absolutely.
• 5:50
  Everywhere
• 5:50
  we
• 5:51
  went
• 5:51
  was
• 5:51
  first
• 5:51
  class.
• 5:52
  We
• 5:52
  went
• 5:52
  to
• 5:52
  one
• 5:53
  common
• 5:53
  first
• 5:53
  class
• 5:54
  air
• 5:54
  flights.
• 5:55
  We.
• 5:55
  Everywhere
• 5:55
  we
• 5:56
  went
• 5:56
  was
• 5:56
  first
• 5:56
  class.
• 5:57
  Hotels
• 5:57
  were
• 5:58
  class.
• 5:59
  But
• 6:00
  you
• 6:00
  made.
• 6:00
  They
• 6:00
  made
• 6:01
  sure
• 6:01
  you
• 6:01
  had
• 6:01
  to
• 6:01
  do
• 6:02
  it
• 6:02
  on
• 6:02
  the
• 6:02
  pitch
• 6:02
  as
• 6:02
  well.
• 6:03
  Yeah,
• 6:03
  of
• 6:04
  course,
• 6:04
  yeah.
• 6:04
  When.
• 6:05
  When.
• 6:06
  Go
• 6:06
  on.
• 6:06
  Sorry.
• 6:07
  You
• 6:07
  know.
• 6:07
  And
• 6:07
  that
• 6:07
  was
• 6:07
  the
• 6:08
  difference.
• 6:08
  That
• 6:09
  was
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  difference
• 6:09
  of
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  two
• 6:10
  clubs.
• 6:11
  Yeah.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:13
  when
• 6:13
  he
• 6:13
  says,
• 6:14
  I
• 6:15
  want
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  play
• 6:15
  for
• 6:15
  Arsenal.
• 6:16
  Yeah,
• 6:16
  because
• 6:16
  it
• 6:17
  is
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  only.
• 6:18
  It
• 6:18
  is
• 6:18
  the.
• 6:19
  Yeah,
• 6:20
  let's
• 6:20
  not
• 6:20
  get
• 6:20
  away
• 6:20
  from
• 6:21
  that.
• 6:21
  Yeah,
• 6:22
  I
• 6:23
  remember
• 6:23
  going
• 6:23
  there.
• 6:24
  We
• 6:24
  used
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  play
• 6:25
  them
• 6:25
  in
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  70s
• 6:26
  counties.
• 6:27
  And
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  go
• 6:27
  to
• 6:28
  London
• 6:28
  Coney
• 6:28
  where
• 6:28
  they
• 6:29
  used
• 6:29
  to
• 6:29
  train.
• 6:29
  Yeah,
• 6:30
  we
• 6:30
  used
• 6:30
  to
• 6:30
  go
• 6:30
  there.
• 6:30
  And
• 6:31
  after
• 6:31
  games,
• 6:31
  you're
• 6:31
  going
• 6:32
  after
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  game.
• 6:32
  The
• 6:33
  most
• 6:34
  teams
• 6:34
  are
• 6:34
  like
• 6:34
  late
• 6:34
  sandwiches
• 6:35
  and
• 6:35
  all
• 6:35
  that
• 6:36
  ass
• 6:36
  would
• 6:37
  lay
• 6:37
  the
• 6:38
  ladies
• 6:38
  best
• 6:39
  cakes
• 6:39
  on
• 6:40
  like
• 6:41
  top
• 6:41
  ticks.
• 6:43
  And
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  think,
• 6:44
  where
• 6:44
  the.
• 6:44
  Did
• 6:45
  you
• 6:45
  get
• 6:45
  these
• 6:45
  from?
• 6:47
  Yeah.
• 6:47
  Harrods.
• 6:48
  My
• 6:48
  language.
• 6:49
  Hey,
• 6:49
  Nico.
• 6:51
  Chelsea.
• 6:53
  How
• 6:53
  was
• 6:53
  that
• 6:53
  for
• 6:53
  you?
• 6:55
  Chelsea.
• 6:56
  Well,
• 6:56
  Chelsea.
• 6:57
  Bobby
• 6:57
  Campbell.
• 6:58
  Now
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  go
• 6:59
  back
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  Bobby
• 6:59
  Campbell.
• 7:00
  You
• 7:00
  captain
• 7:00
  Chelsea.
• 7:01
  Did
• 7:01
  you.
• 7:01
  Did
• 7:01
  you.
• 7:01
  Did
• 7:01
  you
• 7:02
  captain
• 7:02
  Chelsea?
• 7:02
  A
• 7:02
  few
• 7:03
  times.
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  captained
• 7:04
  Chelsea.
• 7:04
  Yeah.
• 7:04
  We
• 7:04
  can't.
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  started.
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  went
• 7:06
  there
• 7:06
  with
• 7:06
  Graham
• 7:07
  Roberts
• 7:07
  on
• 7:07
  Team
• 7:08
  Bill.
• 7:09
  Me
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  him
• 7:09
  joined
• 7:10
  it.
• 7:10
  It
• 7:10
  was
• 7:10
  tough
• 7:11
  in
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  club
• 7:11
  up,
• 7:11
  which
• 7:11
  we
• 7:12
  did.
• 7:12
  We
• 7:12
  got
• 7:13
  promotion.
• 7:13
  We
• 7:13
  got
• 7:14
  99
• 7:14
  points
• 7:15
  from
• 7:15
  the
• 7:15
  old
• 7:15
  set
• 7:16
  division,
• 7:16
  which
• 7:16
  is
• 7:17
  then
• 7:17
  obviously
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  championship
• 7:18
  seating
• 7:19
  Premiership.
• 7:20
  Right.
• 7:20
  And
• 7:20
  that's
• 7:20
  what
• 7:20
  we
• 7:21
  did.
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  did
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  again.
• 7:22
  We
• 7:22
  won
• 7:22
  that
• 7:22
  league
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  year.
• 7:23
  Wow.
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  went
• 7:24
  to
• 7:24
  Chelsea.
• 7:26
  Ken
• 7:26
  Bates
• 7:27
  was
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  chairman.
• 7:29
  Got
• 7:29
  friendly
• 7:30
  with
• 7:30
  Ken.
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  ended
• 7:31
  up
• 7:31
  being
• 7:31
  captain.
• 7:33
  No,
• 7:33
  I'm
• 7:33
  not
• 7:33
  going
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  bet
• 7:34
  with
• 7:34
  Ken.
• 7:35
  Is
• 7:35
  either
• 7:35
  yes
• 7:35
  or
• 7:35
  no
• 7:36
  FEMA
• 7:36
  pro
• 7:37
  kind
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  thing.
• 7:37
  Love
• 7:37
  it
• 7:38
  he
• 7:38
  would
• 7:38
  say,
• 7:38
  you
• 7:38
  get
• 7:39
  this,
• 7:39
  you
• 7:39
  like
• 7:39
  bonuses
• 7:40
  at
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  beginning
• 7:40
  of
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  season,
• 7:41
  you
• 7:42
  sort
• 7:42
  it
• 7:42
  with
• 7:42
  him.
• 7:43
  Whichever
• 7:44
  way
• 7:44
  you
• 7:44
  wanted
• 7:45
  them,
• 7:45
  you
• 7:45
  get
• 7:45
  them.
• 7:46
  But
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  only
• 7:46
  thing
• 7:46
  is
• 7:47
  you
• 7:47
  always,
• 7:47
  always
• 7:47
  get
• 7:47
  the
• 7:48
  same
• 7:48
  thing.
• 7:48
  Right.
• 7:49
  It
• 7:49
  wouldn't
• 7:49
  be
• 7:49
  any
• 7:49
  different.
• 7:50
  You
• 7:51
  up
• 7:51
  front
• 7:52
  weekly
• 7:52
  at
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  end
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  season
• 7:54
  with
• 7:54
  Ken,
• 7:55
  it
• 7:55
  was
• 7:56
  no,
• 7:57
  no
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  me.
• 7:58
  Just
• 7:58
  get
• 7:58
  on
• 7:59
  with
• 7:59
  it.
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  want
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  win
• 8:00
  this,
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  want
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  win
• 8:01
  that.
• 8:01
  Get
• 8:02
  on
• 8:02
  with
• 8:02
  it.
• 8:02
  And
• 8:02
  that
• 8:02
  was,
• 8:03
  as
• 8:03
  you
• 8:03
  know,
• 8:03
  it's
• 8:04
  quite
• 8:04
  a
• 8:05
  kind
• 8:05
  of
• 8:06
  intense
• 8:06
  tackle
• 8:07
  of
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  ball.
• 8:07
  Robust.
• 8:08
  Robust,
• 8:09
  yes.
• 8:10
  Okay.
• 8:11
  Whatever.
• 8:11
  Whatever.
• 8:12
  There's
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  lot
• 8:13
  more
• 8:13
  words
• 8:13
  people
• 8:13
  have
• 8:13
  called
• 8:14
  me
• 8:14
  than
• 8:14
  that,
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  assure
• 8:15
  you.
• 8:15
  I
• 8:15
  know,
• 8:15
  but.
• 8:16
  But
• 8:16
  I'm
• 8:16
  not
• 8:17
  bothered
• 8:17
  by
• 8:17
  that
• 8:17
  any.
• 8:18
  So
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  crash
• 8:18
  into
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  tackle
• 8:19
  right
• 8:19
  on
• 8:19
  the
• 8:20
  halfway
• 8:20
  line
• 8:20
  at
• 8:21
  Fulham
• 8:21
  in
• 8:22
  front
• 8:22
  of
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  dugout,
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  he
• 8:25
  turned
• 8:25
  around
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  said
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  me,
• 8:27
  show,
• 8:28
  break
• 8:28
  your
• 8:28
  leg.
• 8:28
  I'm
• 8:29
  gonna
• 8:29
  break.
• 8:29
  Get
• 8:29
  somebody
• 8:30
  break
• 8:30
  your
• 8:30
  leg.
• 8:31
  And
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  always
• 8:31
  remembered
• 8:32
  that.
• 8:33
  Wow.
• 8:34
  And
• 8:35
  that
• 8:35
  was
• 8:35
  a
• 8:35
  kind
• 8:35
  of
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  nasty
• 8:37
  thing
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  say.
• 8:37
  Yeah.
• 8:39
  Or
• 8:39
  when
• 8:40
  you
• 8:40
  ever
• 8:40
  heard
• 8:40
  one
• 8:40
  person
• 8:41
  say
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  me
• 8:41
  before,
• 8:42
  after
• 8:42
  that,
• 8:43
  anyway.
• 8:44
  And
• 8:44
  that
• 8:44
  was
• 8:45
  another
• 8:45
  person
• 8:46
  who,
• 8:47
  who
• 8:47
  was
• 8:47
  a
• 8:48
  manager.
• 8:48
  He's
• 8:48
  quite
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  good
• 8:49
  manager,
• 8:49
  actually,
• 8:49
  in
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  end.
• 8:50
  But
• 8:50
  not
• 8:51
  for
• 8:51
  me.
• 8:51
  But
• 8:52
  anyhow,
• 8:52
  so
• 8:52
  I,
• 8:53
  I,
• 8:54
  So
• 8:54
  when
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  met
• 8:55
  him
• 8:55
  after,
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  never
• 8:56
  met
• 8:57
  him
• 8:57
  after,
• 8:57
  after
• 8:58
  that
• 8:58
  day,
• 8:58
  they
• 8:58
  went,
• 8:59
  signed
• 8:59
  me
• 9:00
  at
• 9:00
  Chelsea.
• 9:01
  Yeah,
• 9:02
  he
• 9:02
  was
• 9:03
  fine.
• 9:03
  He
• 9:03
  knew
• 9:04
  what
• 9:04
  he
• 9:04
  was
• 9:04
  getting,
• 9:04
  right.
• 9:05
  What
• 9:05
  he
• 9:05
  bought.
• 9:06
  Yes,
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  was,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:08
  was
• 9:08
  on
• 9:08
  the
• 9:09
  28.
• 9:10
  I
• 9:10
  was
• 9:11
  27,
• 9:11
  28.
• 9:12
  Coming
• 9:13
  to
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  height
• 9:14
  of
• 9:14
  my
• 9:14
  career.
• 9:14
  I
• 9:15
  was
• 9:15
  there
• 9:15
  for
• 9:15
  two
• 9:15
  years,
• 9:16
  two
• 9:16
  and
• 9:16
  a
• 9:16
  half,
• 9:16
  three
• 9:16
  years.
• 9:17
  We
• 9:17
  won
• 9:17
  the
• 9:18
  league.
• 9:18
  We
• 9:18
  were
• 9:19
  top
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  first
• 9:20
  division
• 9:20
  at
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  time
• 9:20
  for
• 9:21
  a
• 9:21
  while.
• 9:21
  Super.
• 9:22
  Then
• 9:22
  faded
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  bit
• 9:23
  and
• 9:24
  then
• 9:24
  he
• 9:24
  started
• 9:25
  changing
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  team
• 9:25
  about
• 9:26
  a
• 9:26
  bit
• 9:26
  and
• 9:26
  this
• 9:26
  and
• 9:27
  that,
• 9:27
  and
• 9:27
  I,
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  moved
• 9:28
  on
• 9:29
  and
• 9:29
  I,
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  ended
• 9:30
  up.
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  had
• 9:31
  a
• 9:32
  bit
• 9:32
  of
• 9:32
  a
• 9:32
  problem.
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  was
• 9:32
  at
• 9:32
  Abedine
• 9:33
  at
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  time,
• 9:34
  before
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  went
• 9:34
  to
• 9:35
  Chelsea.
• 9:35
  Yeah,
• 9:35
  that
• 9:36
  was
• 9:36
  a
• 9:36
  good
• 9:36
  club.
• 9:36
  Aberdeen
• 9:37
  was
• 9:37
  a
• 9:37
  great
• 9:37
  club.
• 9:38
  Yeah,
• 9:38
  absolutely
• 9:39
  fantastic
• 9:39
  club.
• 9:40
  And
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  went
• 9:41
  there.
• 9:41
  But
• 9:41
  I
• 9:42
  had
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  leave
• 9:42
  Aberdeen
• 9:43
  after
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  year
• 9:43
  because
• 9:44
  one
• 9:44
  of
• 9:44
  my
• 9:44
  children
• 9:45
  was
• 9:45
  born
• 9:45
  in
• 9:46
  Aberdeen
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  he
• 9:46
  had
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  bad
• 9:47
  stomach
• 9:49
  situation,
• 9:49
  so
• 9:50
  he
• 9:50
  had
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  go
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  Great
• 9:50
  Almond
• 9:51
  street
• 9:51
  for
• 9:51
  six
• 9:52
  months
• 9:52
  to
• 9:52
  live.
• 9:52
  Sorry
• 9:52
  about
• 9:53
  that.
• 9:53
  So
• 9:53
  we
• 9:54
  ended
• 9:54
  up,
• 9:54
  we
• 9:55
  ended
• 9:55
  up
• 9:55
  moving
• 9:55
  back
• 9:55
  to
• 9:56
  London.
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  went
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  Chelsea.
• 9:57
  Yeah,
• 9:57
  good
• 9:57
  time.
• 9:57
  Chelsea
• 9:59
  wasn't
• 9:59
  a.
• 10:00
  Wasn't
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  very
• 10:00
  warm
• 10:01
  club
• 10:01
  at
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  time.
• 10:02
  Chelsea
• 10:02
  at
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  stage.
• 10:03
  Yeah.
• 10:04
  Well,
• 10:04
  maybe
• 10:05
  it
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  going
• 10:06
  through
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  debates
• 10:07
  era
• 10:08
  where
• 10:08
  they
• 10:09
  had
• 10:09
  not
• 10:09
  much
• 10:09
  money
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  they
• 10:11
  didn't
• 10:11
  win
• 10:11
  much.
• 10:11
  And
• 10:11
  also
• 10:12
  we
• 10:12
  went,
• 10:12
  ended
• 10:13
  up,
• 10:13
  ended
• 10:13
  up
• 10:14
  being
• 10:14
  a
• 10:14
  captain.
• 10:14
  We
• 10:15
  walked
• 10:15
  into
• 10:15
  Wembley
• 10:16
  we
• 10:16
  won
• 10:16
  the.
• 10:17
  The
• 10:17
  old
• 10:17
  Simod
• 10:18
  Cup.
• 10:18
  We
• 10:18
  beat
• 10:19
  middle
• 10:19
  pricing
• 10:19
  1
• 10:20
  nil.
• 10:20
  Super
• 10:21
  Wembley,
• 10:22
  you
• 10:22
  know
• 10:22
  we
• 10:22
  won
• 10:23
  a
• 10:23
  cap
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  I
• 10:23
  was
• 10:23
  man
• 10:24
  of
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  match
• 10:24
  of
• 10:24
  that
• 10:24
  which
• 10:24
  was
• 10:25
  good.
• 10:25
  Yeah.
• 10:25
  You.
• 10:26
  You
• 10:26
  say
• 10:26
  Chelsea
• 10:27
  wasn't.
• 10:27
  I'm
• 10:27
  not
• 10:28
  sure
• 10:28
  that
• 10:28
  Chelsea
• 10:29
  has
• 10:29
  ever
• 10:29
  really.
• 10:29
  I
• 10:30
  mean
• 10:30
  I
• 10:30
  think
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  times
• 10:30
  when
• 10:31
  Abramovich
• 10:31
  was
• 10:32
  there
• 10:32
  and
• 10:32
  John
• 10:32
  Terry
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  Frankie
• 10:33
  Lampard
• 10:34
  they
• 10:34
  were
• 10:34
  probably
• 10:34
  very
• 10:35
  close
• 10:35
  there
• 10:35
  and
• 10:35
  Mourinho
• 10:36
  but
• 10:37
  they
• 10:37
  never
• 10:37
  really
• 10:37
  seem
• 10:38
  a
• 10:38
  close
• 10:38
  club.
• 10:38
  Chelsea
• 10:39
  did
• 10:39
  it.
• 10:39
  No
• 10:39
  they
• 10:39
  weren't.
• 10:40
  No
• 10:40
  it
• 10:40
  was
• 10:40
  the
• 10:41
  most
• 10:41
  probably
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  club.
• 10:42
  I
• 10:42
  went
• 10:43
  there.
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  finished
• 10:43
  my
• 10:43
  career
• 10:44
  at
• 10:44
  Watford.
• 10:45
  Steve
• 10:45
  Penman
• 10:45
  was
• 10:46
  my
• 10:46
  manager
• 10:46
  and
• 10:47
  then
• 10:47
  again
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  had
• 10:47
  another
• 10:48
  manager
• 10:48
  there
• 10:48
  who
• 10:49
  see
• 10:50
  Pelhaman
• 10:50
  had
• 10:51
  been
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  great
• 10:51
  player.
• 10:52
  Top
• 10:52
  them
• 10:52
  on
• 10:52
  his
• 10:53
  lodge.
• 10:55
  You
• 10:55
  could
• 10:55
  learn
• 10:55
  off
• 10:56
  Steve.
• 10:57
  Yeah.
• 10:59
  Yeah.
• 10:59
  You
• 10:59
  can
• 11:00
  learn
• 11:00
  things
• 11:00
  of
• 11:00
  Bobby
• 11:00
  Campbell
• 11:01
  because
• 11:01
  Bobby
• 11:01
  Campbell's
• 11:02
  a
• 11:03
  reserve
• 11:03
  team
• 11:03
  player
• 11:03
  at
• 11:04
  Liverpool.
• 11:04
  Never
• 11:05
  played
• 11:05
  with
• 11:05
  Liverpool's
• 11:06
  first
• 11:06
  team
• 11:07
  but
• 11:07
  he
• 11:07
  was
• 11:07
  there
• 11:08
  when
• 11:08
  Bill
• 11:08
  Shagley
• 11:09
  was
• 11:09
  there.
• 11:09
  Yeah.
• 11:10
  No,
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  mean
• 11:11
  yeah
• 11:11
  that
• 11:11
  like
• 11:12
  so.
• 11:12
  You'd
• 11:12
  learn
• 11:13
  these
• 11:13
  things
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  all
• 11:13
  these
• 11:14
  great
• 11:14
  managers.
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  like
• 11:15
  these.
• 11:15
  All
• 11:16
  these
• 11:16
  things
• 11:16
  have
• 11:16
  been
• 11:16
  in
• 11:17
  my
• 11:17
  brain
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  I've
• 11:18
  had
• 11:19
  all
• 11:19
  these
• 11:19
  in
• 11:19
  my
• 11:19
  career.
• 11:20
  So
• 11:21
  when
• 11:21
  I
• 11:21
  say
• 11:21
  about.
• 11:22
  You
• 11:22
  ask
• 11:22
  me
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  question
• 11:23
  about
• 11:23
  best
• 11:24
  manager
• 11:24
  and
• 11:25
  best
• 11:25
  coach.
• 11:25
  I've
• 11:26
  been
• 11:26
  so
• 11:26
  lucky
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  have
• 11:27
  all
• 11:27
  these
• 11:27
  great
• 11:27
  coaches.
• 11:28
  Great
• 11:28
  managers.
• 11:29
  Yeah.
• 11:29
  No
• 11:29
  you've.
• 11:30
  Yeah.
• 11:30
  If
• 11:30
  you
• 11:30
  put
• 11:30
  them
• 11:30
  all
• 11:31
  together.
• 11:31
  I
• 11:31
  had.
• 11:32
  And
• 11:32
  then
• 11:32
  Chelsea
• 11:33
  Bobby
• 11:33
  left
• 11:34
  and
• 11:34
  then
• 11:35
  Ian
• 11:35
  Portfield
• 11:36
  took
• 11:36
  over.
• 11:36
  Yeah.
• 11:36
  And
• 11:37
  then
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  had
• 11:37
  Ian
• 11:37
  Portfield.
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  had
• 11:38
  Ian
• 11:38
  Portfield
• 11:39
  as
• 11:39
  my
• 11:39
  manager.
• 11:40
  Aberdeen.
• 11:40
  Wow.
• 11:41
  As
• 11:42
  we
• 11:42
  all
• 11:42
  know,
• 11:42
  Ian
• 11:42
  Portville
• 11:43
  scored
• 11:43
  a
• 11:44
  great
• 11:44
  goal
• 11:44
  for
• 11:44
  suddenly
• 11:45
  against
• 11:45
  Leeds
• 11:45
  in
• 11:46
  the
• 11:46
  FA
• 11:46
  Cup.
• 11:46
  Correct.
• 11:47
  Yeah.
• 11:48
  That
• 11:48
  was
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  big
• 11:48
  game.
• 11:49
  He
• 11:49
  was
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  different
• 11:49
  manager
• 11:50
  again.
• 11:50
  He
• 11:50
  was
• 11:50
  a
• 11:50
  manager
• 11:51
  Sheffield
• 11:51
  United.
• 11:51
  For
• 11:52
  years
• 11:52
  we
• 11:53
  tried
• 11:53
  to
• 11:53
  sign
• 11:53
  me
• 11:53
  at
• 11:53
  Sheffield
• 11:54
  United.
• 11:54
  David
• 11:55
  Ple,
• 11:55
  when
• 11:56
  he
• 11:56
  went
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  Tottenham
• 11:57
  tried
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  sign
• 11:57
  me
• 11:58
  from
• 11:58
  Luton
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  Tottenham.
• 12:00
  Yeah.
• 12:00
  Yeah.
• 12:01
  But
• 12:02
  Luton
• 12:02
  wouldn't
• 12:02
  let
• 12:02
  me
• 12:03
  go.
• 12:03
  Luton
• 12:03
  was
• 12:04
  a
• 12:04
  great
• 12:04
  club.
• 12:04
  I
• 12:05
  had
• 12:05
  Joy
• 12:06
  Harford
• 12:06
  and.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:07
  David
• 12:08
  Plead
• 12:09
  some
• 12:09
  great
• 12:10
  players.
• 12:10
  Steve
• 12:10
  Foster
• 12:11
  and
• 12:11
  Ricky
• 12:13
  was
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  great.
• 12:13
  Was
• 12:14
  a
• 12:14
  great
• 12:14
  players
• 12:14
  as
• 12:15
  well,
• 12:15
  you
• 12:15
  know.
• 12:15
  Yeah,
• 12:16
  for
• 12:16
  sure.
• 12:16
  Great,
• 12:17
  great
• 12:17
  players
• 12:18
  with
• 12:18
  Wales.
• 12:19
  I'm
• 12:19
  playing
• 12:19
  with
• 12:19
  Terry
• 12:20
  Yor.
• 12:20
  I'm
• 12:20
  playing
• 12:21
  with
• 12:21
  Neville
• 12:22
  S
• 12:23
  Mark
• 12:23
  Hughes
• 12:24
  Nico.
• 12:24
  I'm
• 12:24
  playing
• 12:25
  with
• 12:25
  all
• 12:25
  these
• 12:25
  boys
• 12:25
  in
• 12:26
  Wales,
• 12:26
  you
• 12:26
  know.
• 12:26
  Nick,
• 12:27
  hold
• 12:27
  on
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  minute.
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  want
• 12:27
  to
• 12:28
  hold
• 12:28
  you
• 12:28
  up
• 12:28
  there
• 12:28
  because
• 12:28
  you
• 12:29
  just.
• 12:29
  You're
• 12:29
  very
• 12:30
  humble
• 12:30
  about
• 12:30
  your
• 12:31
  career
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  love
• 12:31
  you
• 12:31
  for
• 12:32
  that.
• 12:32
  But
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  know
• 12:33
  Wales
• 12:33
  obviously
• 12:34
  it's
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  big.
• 12:35
  It's
• 12:35
  a
• 12:35
  big
• 12:35
  week
• 12:35
  for
• 12:36
  Wales
• 12:36
  because
• 12:36
  like
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  think
• 12:37
  they've
• 12:37
  qualified
• 12:38
  for
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  World
• 12:39
  cup
• 12:39
  twice
• 12:39
  in
• 12:40
  their.
• 12:40
  In
• 12:40
  their
• 12:41
  existence.
• 12:42
  And
• 12:42
  like
• 12:42
  they're
• 12:43
  coming
• 12:43
  up
• 12:43
  at
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  end
• 12:43
  of
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  week,
• 12:44
  they're
• 12:44
  playing
• 12:44
  for
• 12:44
  that
• 12:44
  qualifying
• 12:45
  match.
• 12:45
  But
• 12:46
  when
• 12:47
  you
• 12:47
  played
• 12:48
  73
• 12:48
  times
• 12:49
  for
• 12:49
  Wales,
• 12:49
  right?
• 12:51
  Am
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  right?
• 12:52
  Yes,
• 12:53
  73
• 12:54
  times.
• 12:54
  I
• 12:55
  mean,
• 12:55
  that's
• 12:55
  that.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:56
  you
• 12:56
  captain
• 12:57
  Wales
• 12:57
  a
• 12:57
  few
• 12:57
  times.
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  mean,
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  don't
• 12:58
  know.
• 12:58
  Did
• 12:58
  you
• 12:59
  captain
• 12:59
  Wales
• 12:59
  34
• 13:00
  times?
• 13:00
  Wow.
• 13:01
  You
• 13:01
  go,
• 13:01
  man.
• 13:01
  That,
• 13:02
  that,
• 13:02
  that,
• 13:03
  that
• 13:03
  in
• 13:03
  itself
• 13:04
  is
• 13:04
  like
• 13:04
  absolutely
• 13:05
  superb.
• 13:06
  When,
• 13:06
  when
• 13:06
  we
• 13:07
  talk
• 13:07
  record,
• 13:07
  I
• 13:08
  had
• 13:08
  a
• 13:08
  record
• 13:09
  number
• 13:09
  of
• 13:09
  caps
• 13:10
  at
• 13:10
  one
• 13:10
  stage.
• 13:11
  Yeah,
• 13:12
  at
• 13:12
  73.
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  broke
• 13:13
  Joey
• 13:14
  Jones
• 13:14
  at
• 13:14
  72.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  God
• 13:16
  bless
• 13:16
  Joey,
• 13:16
  because
• 13:16
  I
• 13:17
  know
• 13:17
  Joey
• 13:17
  very
• 13:17
  well.
• 13:18
  Played
• 13:18
  with
• 13:18
  him
• 13:18
  most
• 13:19
  of
• 13:19
  my
• 13:19
  career
• 13:19
  for
• 13:19
  Wales.
• 13:20
  Great
• 13:20
  player.
• 13:21
  Again,
• 13:21
  he
• 13:21
  was
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  Chelsea
• 13:22
  player
• 13:22
  in
• 13:23
  Rex.
• 13:23
  Him
• 13:23
  and
• 13:24
  Liverpool
• 13:24
  for
• 13:25
  years.
• 13:25
  Played
• 13:25
  in
• 13:26
  Europe
• 13:26
  Champions
• 13:27
  European
• 13:27
  Cup
• 13:28
  Final
• 13:28
  for
• 13:28
  Liverpool.
• 13:29
  Excellent.
• 13:30
  Great
• 13:30
  person.
• 13:30
  Well,
• 13:31
  great
• 13:31
  off
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  pitch.
• 13:32
  Great
• 13:33
  character.
• 13:34
  No,
• 13:34
  I
• 13:35
  mean
• 13:35
  the
• 13:36
  Welsh
• 13:36
  boys.
• 13:36
  Then
• 13:37
  you
• 13:37
  Wolshie,
• 13:38
  Stevie
• 13:38
  Love
• 13:39
  Boyle,
• 13:40
  you.
• 13:41
  You
• 13:41
  won't
• 13:41
  remember
• 13:42
  this,
• 13:42
  but
• 13:42
  Stevie
• 13:42
  Love
• 13:43
  would
• 13:43
  give
• 13:43
  me
• 13:43
  his
• 13:43
  car
• 13:43
  as
• 13:44
  long
• 13:44
  as
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  cleaned
• 13:44
  it
• 13:45
  up.
• 13:45
  I
• 13:46
  would
• 13:46
  have
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  car
• 13:46
  for
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  week
• 13:47
  when
• 13:47
  he
• 13:47
  was
• 13:48
  with
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  boys.
• 13:48
  So
• 13:49
  I
• 13:49
  drive
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  car
• 13:49
  to
• 13:50
  Etho,
• 13:50
  where
• 13:50
  you
• 13:50
  met
• 13:51
  up.
• 13:51
  But
• 13:53
  talking
• 13:53
  about
• 13:53
  Wales,
• 13:54
  I'm
• 13:54
  sure
• 13:55
  we
• 13:55
  can't
• 13:55
  talk
• 13:55
  about
• 13:56
  Wales
• 13:57
  unless
• 13:57
  we
• 13:57
  talk
• 13:57
  about
• 13:57
  the
• 13:58
  soonest
• 13:58
  tackle,
• 13:58
  right?
• 13:59
  Gotta
• 14:00
  talk
• 14:00
  about
• 14:00
  that.
• 14:00
  Everyone
• 14:00
  talks
• 14:01
  to
• 14:01
  me
• 14:01
  about
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  soonest
• 14:02
  tackle.
• 14:04
  Was
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  on
• 14:05
  your
• 14:05
  mind
• 14:05
  when
• 14:06
  you,
• 14:06
  when,
• 14:06
  when
• 14:06
  that
• 14:07
  game
• 14:07
  was
• 14:07
  coming
• 14:07
  up,
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  was
• 14:08
  gonna
• 14:08
  have
• 14:08
  a
• 14:08
  one
• 14:09
  on
• 14:09
  one
• 14:09
  with
• 14:09
  him?
• 14:10
  Well,
• 14:11
  this
• 14:12
  all
• 14:12
  started
• 14:12
  what
• 14:13
  it
• 14:13
  was.
• 14:13
  I
• 14:13
  was
• 14:13
  playing.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  was
• 14:14
  at
• 14:14
  Arsenal
• 14:14
  at
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  time
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  we
• 14:16
  played
• 14:16
  Liverpool
• 14:16
  away.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:18
  again,
• 14:19
  I
• 14:19
  was
• 14:19
  a
• 14:19
  bit
• 14:20
  tenacious
• 14:21
  in
• 14:21
  attacking
• 14:21
  with
• 14:22
  Ray
• 14:22
  Kennedy
• 14:22
  and
• 14:23
  I
• 14:23
  hit
• 14:23
  him
• 14:23
  a
• 14:24
  little
• 14:24
  bit
• 14:24
  late,
• 14:24
  to
• 14:24
  be
• 14:24
  honest.
• 14:25
  I
• 14:25
  did
• 14:26
  my
• 14:26
  own
• 14:26
  fault,
• 14:26
  really.