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Josh Slabonik on Community, Content, and the Future of Podcasting · The Scene Projects

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Welcome in to a very exciting episode of the scene.
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I'm your host, Bubba Starts.
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And with me today is Josh from the Josh and Paulie show.
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Welcome to the show, Josh.
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How are you doing, man?
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I'm doing well.
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I'm doing well.
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Met you off of our podcaster group on Facebook, and we're just here wrapping a little bit
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today.
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Why don't you go ahead and just tell us a little bit about the show, and then we'll kind
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of pick up a conversation.
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Alright.
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I just wanna say too shout out to Moe Train on that podcasting group.
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He's been posting a lot.
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There's been hundreds of comments on all those posts, a lot of interaction, a lot of
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collaboration.
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So way cool of Moe.
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My podcast is a would you rather podcast.
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So me and Polly basically started doing would you rather questions on the way to the gym
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every day, and we're like, these are too fun.
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Like, we just had a ton of fun with them.
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So we decided to start writing them down and podcasting, and we started on a cell phone.
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Polly was recording on a cell phone using some little free editing app and putting them
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together.
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And from the start, you know, we had some listeners, and I feel like that's another
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message I wanted to put out there.
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It's like, if you're trying to start into podcasting, just do it.
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Don't worry about a perfect setup.
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You're gonna worry about it forever.
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Just start with what you got and then get some equipment from there, and eventually, you'll
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have a nice pretty setup to work in.
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So
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Yeah.
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I love it.
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I love how it just started as a conversation between you guys.
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Yeah.
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I think what you were on your commute to work or something you guys were or at work?
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Yeah.
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Going to the gym.
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Going to the gym.
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Awesome.
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And that's that's really the beauty of podcasting and as that it's just it's just
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conversations, man.
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Like and it could be about whatever interests you.
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And you touched on something key right off the bat there is, like, if you're thinking about
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it, just do it.
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You have a phone.
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You have a like, you have everything you need on a phone to do everything.
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Is it gonna be perfect to, like is it gonna look like Joe Rogan's podcast?
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No.
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It's not.
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The guy has all the money.
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Right?
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Like
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Right.
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And he's everything.
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And actually, the guy that designed his set is also in the group as well.
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Alex, I'm pretty sure is his name, but, he's designed them for Theo and a lot of these cats.
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Right?
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So just start a podcast.
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Right?
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Record you and your buddy asking stupid questions or talking about whatever you like to
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do.
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And that's really you're gonna fall in love with it.
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Like, if you have that little bit of an inkling to do it, you already have it.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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And the problem becomes you start worrying about comparing yourself to every other podcast
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out there, or you start to worry about, oh, well, I don't have the s m seven b.
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I don't you know what I mean?
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Like Right.
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You don't need that.
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Right?
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Like, I happen to have one because I'm a musician.
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That's how my podcasting journey started.
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I was a songwriter.
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So as I'm releasing music and getting out there, I I, went to my friend's home studio on
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his podcast, and he was a thirty year radio vet.
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So we had a really nice suite setup and just a little room in his house.
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But I was like, hey, man.
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I got that.
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Hey, man.
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I got that.
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I was like, I got a podcast, don't I?
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And he was like, yes.
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You definitely do.
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He hooked me up with a a Zoom p four, which I I this thing is amazing.
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Right?
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Because I can go anywhere, battery powered, so I could start hitting music festivals and just
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setting up in a corner and doing it.
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And that's kinda how this whole thing started.
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Right?
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And it doesn't matter how it's how it starts.
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It it matters how you finish and how you keep going with it.
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So how long have you guys been doing your podcast now?
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Right about two years now.
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That's amazing, man.
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We're we're not even a year in with everything that we're building right now.
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So to think of, like, where we're gonna be in another year of continuing to go and grow,
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that's just too cool.
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Yeah.
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So you guys said you touched on some comedy stuff as well and just kinda hit touch current
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events.
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It's just two guys talking.
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Yeah.
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Just just bullshitting.
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We'll cover a lot of controversial stuff too.
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I personally like to delve into the nuance of things, which tends to piss some people off,
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but that's alright.
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I can't help it.
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And I'll joke about stuff that, you know, people are like, you shouldn't joke about that.
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But, you know, that's the beauty of comedy is you can joke about whatever the hell you want
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on the Internet.
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So
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Do you are you involved in the comedy scene at all, or are you a comedian?
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Or No.
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I've never done any stand up or anything.
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I really wanna collaborate with some other comedians, honestly.
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But mostly, I've collaborated with, like, a couple of, what you call, true crime podcasts
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and then another podcast that does a lot of, like, sports stuff.
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But so I'm I'm trying to get out there, collaborate with more people, find people that
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I can really do stuff with.
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We do the podcast once a week, which is awesome, but I feel like I could do more.
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Like, I'm I'm into it.
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You know?
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The the especially, guesting on people's podcast, it's a lot of fun because you don't
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have to edit it in the end, which is sweet.
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It's my least favorite part.
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So
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yeah.
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No.
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That's cool.
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And that's, I mean, that's how I ended up with four shows.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I I started it right away, you know, and especially with last year being, you know, in
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the middle of an election cycle.
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I was like, man, I have a platform to talk about the stuff that I care about.
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Like, I'm going to.
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And and it kind of started bleeding into more of the music or podcasting short form
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interviews that I like to do, you know, the fifteen, twenty minute interviews.
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And I was like, you should probably just start a new show.
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Probably just start a new one and let that hang, and now we have four of them.
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And it's just I I'm such a I'm such a chameleon when it comes to communities.
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Right?
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I can bounce in and out of different things, and I don't necessarily have to bring, like,
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all of my values with me to every community.
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Right?
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Like, I don't have to be like, no.
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This is who I am, and this is what it is.
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Like, I don't have to be like that everywhere I go.
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So it allows me to just do it like you said, collaborate with different people.
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We've had cohosting, you know, a couple different cohosts on our programs now and just
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trying stuff out.
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At the end of the day, it's our programming.
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Right?
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It's our like, what we want to do.
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So we do whatever we want to.
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Maybe we'll have to we'll have to collaborate some more on getting you a cohost and finding a
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show.
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I love sports.
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I love comedy.
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I like so why stop?
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Why why make your one thing the one thing when it's so easy to just like start another channel
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on your YouTube.
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Right?
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Like, it's not like you even have to go and spend a lot more money to do another one.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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And, I've, you know, found a couple ways to to I I was spending money on the podcast at first,
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and then after a while, I'm like, this is just a hobby.
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Like and it's probably gonna be that for a while.
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You know?
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So I cut out most of the stuff.
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Just learned recently that you can go on Spotify and share your share all your stuff
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through a feed to other platforms, and that's free.
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So that's what I do with that now.
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And so I'm spending $0 a month on the podcast.
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So that's nice.
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That's amazing.
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And I think that's, like, what's stopping a lot of people from starting is thinking that they
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need to go spend, you know, a thousand dollars on equipment, and then it's gonna cost you, you
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know, $70 a month for Podbean or or whatever one of the other programs, which I did as well.
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Right?
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I jumped in, and I didn't really know necessarily what I was doing.
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I just kind of, taking the information that I had and doing the best I could with it.
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But then you start learning.
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Right?
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And Right.
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In a year and you're like, oh, I don't need a lot of this stuff that I'm paying for.
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And it's it's different.
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It's a vessel for ideas.
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Right?
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At the essence, that's what a podcast is, but that vessel can look and feel a million
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different ways.
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And people that are doing a podcast to generate leads for their real estate business are
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different than two guys that are just trying to bullshit and have a good time with each other
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for for an hour or two a week.
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Right?
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So I'm glad that you found those options.
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That's really what the Scene Projects is growing into.
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We kinda wanna be a network for the common man.
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We don't necessarily want you to pay a bunch of money to be on it, but if you're interesting,
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we would like to feature that content on our programming and then get you out there talking
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about, oh, well, hey, I'm part of this network that draws in more listeners to this bigger
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thing and maybe keeps them in our universe more than just, like, listening to one podcast and
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then going.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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And then you build this whole larger community of podcasters that are all cohosting or
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collaborating on different shows or, just being around each other, being guests on other shows.
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And so, yeah, we're trying to build something that's a lot bigger.
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It was immediately when I started this because I knew I had already had shows within the show
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kind of built into my life.
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I had the interviews, but then I was also doing live events where we feature songwriters on
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stage and recording those.
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Well, it's like, well, that's really, like, its own thing, but but I it didn't necessarily need
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its own feed until I was able to move on to a larger network that's like, well, here.
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We're gonna take your one feed that you're paying for, and we're gonna give you five for
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the price of one.
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And it was like, okay.
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Well, now I can kind of start to spread these out.
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So we're growing multiple shows, and and we're looking for other people, you know, very
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similar to you that people that are good at what they do, but not not in a position to
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dedicate their whole lives to it like I am.
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Right.
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Right?
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Like, I'm all in on this thing.
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I have to make it work.
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I don't have a job.
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I don't wanna go back to welding.
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Like, I don't I don't and I love the trade, but I don't love being told what to do.
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Right?
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Like, I I I'm an entrepreneur at heart.
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So once we landed in this, it was like, well, how does this work?
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And how does a network kind of work?
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And what what does that look like to have your own, you know, network of shows rather than
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just one program that you're trying to bring people into?
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I mean, ourselves, we got to a hundred episodes in less than six months.
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Like, having someone to talk to and and doing content wasn't that hard for us, but now we
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wanna get all five of those feeds to a daily, if not more than once daily, rolling.
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Right?
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And and all of these going and kinda growing everything right now under our one YouTube
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channel.
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So yeah,
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man.
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That's way cool.
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Yeah.
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Make it like a radio station or a TV channel.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Because that's what it is, Josh.
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Like, it's media is the mainstream media is dead in the water.
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Like, even our local our local news station here in South Dakota, they took a meeting with
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me, and and they're, like, you know, telling me their numbers.
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I'm like, oh.
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Wow.
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That's not that's not much at all.
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15,000 viewers is what you have, and you're one of
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the Crazy.
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Four stations in the state.
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Right?
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Like Yeah.
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Oh, that's that's not good.
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So how do we how do we capitalize on, you know, them kind of coming down and and us coming up
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and meeting in the middle because they're not going away.
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Right?
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Like, these these broadcast stations aren't going away, but I feel like we can help each
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other.
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So we're trying to find those avenues to taking this all to TV, man.
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Like, that's that's the big goal is infiltrating, if you will, the mainstream with
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content that we find is connecting with people.
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Yeah.
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And you just slap that channel on and watch it all day if you want.
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And No lull, no interruption.
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Exactly.
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So, yeah, we're we're getting more of our people into making, you know, more fifteen to
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twenty minute episodes rather than hour long stuff all the time and to start to craft it
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into that.
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So a year from now, when mainstream media is in a casket at Right.
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We can, you know, come back and be like, hey.
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We have all of this content.
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We got a great following that we've built.
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Maybe we can resurrect you and this what you used to have and work together.
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And the fact that they're already interested in co promoting some stuff with us is really cool.
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It shows you where things have gone in a relatively I mean, I know podcasts have been
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around for a long time, but, I mean, the last five years, you felt the swell growing.
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Right?
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You felt it as mainstream media was attacking Joe Rogan during COVID.
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You felt it as it was like, well, they couldn't cancel him like they did to everyone else.
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What's different about this?
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And to watch that continue to grow, and then we all saw it over the course of the election
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cycle.
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Right?
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You watch mainstream media, and it's a close race, and it's it's this and that.
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And then you get to the election, and you're like, well, that wasn't true.
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And they're like, well, how much have you been lying to us about everything?
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And now with the last couple of months coming out, you're like, oh, you've been lying about
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everything.
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You you have zero trust with anyone, and and now you have all of these podcasters like us
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that just come out and we're real.
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We're fucking real people in our garage or in our spare bedroom.
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Right?
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And we're we're hanging out and just talking with our friends and getting our thoughts and
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feelings out there because we're not going to be told what to do.
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We're not gonna be told what to think anymore.
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And I think it really comes you know, I'm 39.
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It's definitely a generational thing, I would say.
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People in their fifties and sixties are not thinking like we are.
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I don't know how old you are, Josh, but I assume you're probably in your thirties as well
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or close to it.
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Yeah.
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34.
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Yeah.
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It it's guys like us that are changing this mediascape because we're just kinda gave them
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middle finger and said, hey.
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We're gonna do what we want.
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We're gonna talk about what we want.
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We don't care, and it's not costing us a penny.
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So you can take your hundred thousand watt radio tower that you're paying an ungodly
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amount just in electricity to run, and, yeah, your radio's dead.
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And now it's how do we if the if the channels are dying off, then the advertisers that were
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working with those people need somewhere to put their money.
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So let's be that.
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So developing all of these kind of advertising models, sponsorship models, you know, the
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affiliate marketing, all these things, that's what I've been working on.
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Right?
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And then in the meantime, I get to jump on for twenty minutes with Josh and talk about his
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podcast and what they're doing, and and we all grow together.
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And that's really the bigger vision of of what we have.
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And there is my sales pitch, Josh.
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I think I've
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Very cool, though.
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I like what you're doing.
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I've actually got this group on Facebook called the PodLuminati.
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It's a private group.
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There's a bunch of podcasters in there.
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Well, there's about a hundred podcasters in there right now.
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And we all share and collaborate and talk amongst each other, but one of the biggest
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questions is where do you guys find sponsors?
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And we're all like, we we don't.
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You know?
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It's that's something we haven't figured out yet.
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So I definitely welcome you to come check out that group and recruit some people from there
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too.
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Yeah.
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Well, and to just be a part of it.
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Communities is what this is about.
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Right?
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Facebook groups are are big for us because that's where people are gathering.
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And I I'm sure there's some you know, I don't know about x.
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I've tried to engage there.
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I don't know what they're like.
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You know?
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I'm I'm old, man.
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I'm 39.
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I'm gonna be 39 in a few months.
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I've been on Facebook since kind of its inception, right, and have you slowly built a
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following there.
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I'm not trying to abandon that to go somewhere else completely.
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We have an Instagram.
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We have those things, but I don't know how to use those channels to connect with people like
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we did.
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Right?
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Where I was able to with a few comments, now we're able to message each other and two days
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later you're on a podcast.
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Right?
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I don't know how to do that elsewhere yet.
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So always learning, always open to learning more and and communicating and connecting with
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people because that's how this thing is gonna grow.
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It's gonna be grassroots.
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It's gonna be a a lot of people doing the things that they're good at and bringing that
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to the community and then going, hey.
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I'm not so good at this thing.
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Right?
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Like, I know affiliate marketing, but I don't know anything about production.
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And so where can I find someone who is the opposite of that or has, you know, different
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skill sets?
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And that's that's kind of what we're trying to build is a larger community of podcasters and
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just creatives, creative people that are trying to get their stuff out there, being able to
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teach those people, but then also realizing that there's plenty of money in starting these
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people that want to use this format to make money.
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Right?
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So kind of a Robin Hood aspect.
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We're gonna charge the people that can afford to pay it and are using it to grow a business
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so that we can kind of support the creative people that are more just doing it for a hobby
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or but are but have really great content that we think needs to be out there.
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So it's been an incredible journey.
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This is really I mean, you're talking not even two months.
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It's not even the February.
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I've really only been working on this part of it for seventy days, maybe, like, since the
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December.
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So now that the vision is starting to take shape and and I'm on calls like this every day,
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right, Josh?
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Like, this is my life now.
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Yeah.
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It becomes even more evident that this is what people want.
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This is what real talk is really what's hitting in the space.
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It seems like that.
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Maybe not on the views side, but on the people starting it because they're being called to.
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You have a story.
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You have a story.
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It deserves to be told.
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We're gonna teach you how to do it the most cost effective way possible if you just wanna
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get that story out there.
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And then if you want to grow that into a following and you want to be Joe Rogan or
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something like like, you wanna do that.
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Okay.
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Well, we're gonna put on that path to doing that.
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That takes a lot more money and time invested.
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And then if you, you know, those creative people that we can help kind of, just keep
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getting this stuff out there.
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I say this is how the world is changing.
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This is how God is speaking through us.
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This is how we're changing the world is by changing ourselves.
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Each each conversation, and I don't you know, for you guys, it might be a little bit
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different because it's just kinda you and your buddy.
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But for me, I'm connecting with people all around the world every single day, and it's
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changing my thoughts on what the world is.
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It's changing And if if the podcast changes one person per episode and that person is me, well,
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then that's already a successful podcast.
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Right.
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Right.
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So when you start talking about, well, now these conversations can go out and connect with
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other people and change their lives, that's where that's where this is really gonna keep
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growing, and that's why I'm excited about next year.
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I was very fortunate, you know, in this time to be nominated for a content creator of the year
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award through, an organization I'm a part of, the Midwest Country Music Organization.
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So to get a nomination for that in your first year of existence is definitely enough push to
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keep going for another year.
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Right?
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And to just keep pumping.
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We've proven that we kind of like a little bit know what we're doing.
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We don't have a million subscribers on YouTube yet, but we're working towards it and we're
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gonna keep working towards learning and growing and then teaching other people how to do that
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because that's that's what's important.
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Yeah.
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And you said earlier about how, you know, we're legitimately changing the world by getting our
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ideas out there, and I think that's super important to think about.
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I thought about this on the level of politics too for a while.
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And the things that change the most in politics, law wise and all that are things that
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the people are majority demanding.
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Who you elect, I don't think really plays as much of a role as what the majority of people
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think about a certain topic currently.
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So if you think a certain way about a a certain topic and you can get 10,000 people to watch
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you talk about that thing, those 10,000 people are at least gonna have it in their mind.
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They might go talk about that thing legitimately through the through the effect.
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It's gonna exponentially increase that idea to the point where a lot more people have heard
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it.
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You know?
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Well and we've seen it.
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We we've seen it with the death of woke, and not that I don't think some things in that
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movement.
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Right?
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You know, and even down to DEI, diversion, equity, inclusion.
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It sounds great.
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We're all about those three words.
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But what got Trojan horsed in with all with that, right, which is what politicians do, The
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Patriot Act.
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Oh, it's a four year safety.
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Oh, by the way, we're spying on everyone.
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Right?
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Like and without without podcast, we're stuck in that same matrix funded by our tax dollars
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that are propagating our entire nation and the entire world.
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Like and that's why especially the USAID stuff that came out in the last thirty days where
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you're just like, oh, my whole life has been a lie.
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Everything that I've consumed for thirty eight years was bullshit.
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Was all bullshit.
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It was all coordinated.
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It was all orchestrated, and now we know.
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And without podcast, without Joe Rogan, without these people, that never happens, man.
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That never happens.
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And and we're in a different we're on a different timeline now than we would ever be
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with without that.
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Right?
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So, so now we realize that.
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Right?
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So, you know, Joe Rogan, when he started his podcast, he jokes about, you know, it's him and
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his buddies hitting the volcano.
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Yeah.
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And that's how that started.
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First episode?
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No.
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I never I've never gone back that far.
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He's, like, on his laptop just using whatever.
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I don't know.
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Whatever was back then.
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Right.
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He's got like, he's messing with the little snowflake video effects and stuff.
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He's like, oh, that's cool.
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He's just hanging out with Brian Redman in a room.
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Like, I guess I'll try this.
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And then, you know, a thousand people hop on and watch him.
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So he's like, alright.
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Yeah.
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I guess I'll stick with this thing when people are into it.
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So
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Right.
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Well and for me, I had a little bit of of local celebrity.
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Right?
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I was a musician.
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I was out in a band.
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I was very connected in the music industry.
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So I came into it with the intention of that.
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Instead of, you know, where they were like, we didn't know what we were doing for ten years
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and we're just kind of doing it and whatever.
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It was fun.
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I came into it with the intention of no, this is what we're going to do.
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We're gonna run it and and make it like a radio or TV station, and then we've run into other
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people that are doing a lot bigger things.
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The network that I'm a part of, the C Suite radio network and the c suite TV network, they
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just picked up the New York Stock Exchange whole programming.
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All of their programming is coming over onto this network that I'm on now.
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Our our founder Jeff Hazlett is a is on CNBC every day.
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He has his own business show or MSNBC.
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I can't remember which one it is, but, you know, eventually, his his goal is TV, and
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that's how he sells it.
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It's like, think of your show as TV.
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Think of it as this way because that's where this is going.
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All of you independent creators out there are developing these shows that are going to be on
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these networks soon because their old games and tactics don't work, and they're going to have
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to rethink the way that they're doing things.
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So keep going.
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Man, anybody with a podcast, like, just keep going right now because we don't know where the
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industry is going.
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I think there's a three to five year bubble before this all kind of homogenizes, but the
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people who already have small followings or have really good content or like, even if you
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don't know the following, but your production looks amazing, you're going to be at that top
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of that list.
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Right?
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They call it headliners.
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You know?
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Can you elevate yourself to that?
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So what I say that, like, the Scene Projects Network is is kind of like the JV team to that
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squad is that I'm gonna develop a bunch of people off of the sidelines, get them in the
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game, and then who knows where any of these people go.
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Because if your content's good, we can work on production.
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If you have content that people are willing to support, right, and that's where sponsorships
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and things start coming in, well, if we can get support for your content, then we can take your
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production level from here to here.
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No problem.
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It's not that hard.
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We know the pathways, but is the money there first?
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Instead of everyone going out and spending all the money to to develop their own show, taking
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more of a a collective approach to it.
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Just start making good content.
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Can you make a good show?
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Can you make this stuff interesting and get people to listen to that?
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Can you get me to listen to your programming?
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And then if that's possible, well, then you could hook anyone.
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And then we'll just grow from there.
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And, yeah, just to continue to connect with more people is kind of my goal.
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It's why I love doing interviews and having people on.
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And, Josh, I think just the short conversation, we I'd love to collaborate with you on our
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Patreon broadcasting project shows and to be able to talk about stuff that most people
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won't.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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I'd love to collaborate too, dude.
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I'm into it.
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Yeah.
25:59
Josh, why don't you, why don't you tell everybody before I let you go where they can
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find, the Josh and Polly show and, yeah, just just kinda share a little bit more about what
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you guys got going on.
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You can check out The Josh and Paulie Show on Spotify.
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We post our short clips on TikTok and Facebook.
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Not really on YouTube because they've, we've had censoring issues over there.
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But I probably talked about the vaccine one time, and we were just, like, discussing the
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conspiracy theory that they're trying to reduce the population of the world.
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And we were discussing it as if, like, this is just a conspiracy theory, but they booted the
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whole episode for that.
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So we were like, no more no more on YouTube.
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You won't do that to us again.
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Yeah.
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So I've got Slab Lab Gaming over on Twitch too.
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I develop little RPG video games over there, and so that's pretty fun.
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And then check out the PodLuminati on Facebook.
26:57
We will let you in if you're not a podcast promoter.
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You sound like maybe you're helping promote podcasts, but you're not the kind of podcast
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promoter we're talking about.
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I think you know the kind of podcast
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Oh, we've seen them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, we we accept everybody over at the PodLimonata.
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Even if you don't have a podcast yet and you're thinking about starting one, you can come and
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check us out.
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We're trying to help, you know, just share everybody's stuff and get it out there.
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So
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Awesome.
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Well, Josh, I appreciate you being on the show today and for being part of the scene.
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Yeah.
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I appreciate you having me on, man.