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The O-Zone Podcast | Logan Cooke on Special Teams Evolving, Tricky Job of Being the Holder · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to this week's ozone podcast, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: joined this week by Jaguars punter Logan Cook. And Logan
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  Speaker 1: this is your second time around on this. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you doing this first.
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  Speaker 2: Of all, Yeah, thank you for having me, and we'll.
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  Speaker 1: Get the team stuff out of the way early. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: two and eight not where you want to be. I
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  Speaker 1: guess I've been struck this year and talking to the
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  Speaker 1: guys about how even though the circumstances are tough, the
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  Speaker 1: team still feels together.
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you feel that as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I think one of the main things
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  Speaker 4: is back to twenty two. I hate to rewind all
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  Speaker 4: the time, but sure, it's pretty much just the same team.
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  Speaker 4: You have a few inserted guys, but it's pretty much
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  Speaker 4: the same team. So we've kind of seen how I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we were three and seven at one point that.
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  Speaker 3: Season, two and six and then three and seven, right.
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  Speaker 4: So we came back from a you know what looked
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  Speaker 4: like to be another type of you know, eighteen through
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  Speaker 4: twenty one kind of season and then we turning around.
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  Speaker 2: So we've seen that.
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  Speaker 4: So you get to kind of now the back half
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  Speaker 4: of the season, there's still a lot of guys who
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  Speaker 4: remember where we were then and where we got to
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  Speaker 4: so there's still a lot of that now.
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  Speaker 1: We talked before we got started. You're the longest ten
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  Speaker 1: year Jaguar.
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  Speaker 4: Now, it's crazy. I'll tell them what I told you.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I'm up next.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of how it works down a chopping block.
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  Speaker 4: But no, it's a blessing. I never thought i'd be
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  Speaker 4: here anyway, so to be here this long has been cool.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I think you told me once in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room we were just sort of talking in eighteen. You
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  Speaker 1: weren't sure you were going to be on the team, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Well I.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't know if I was gonna stay on the team,
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  Speaker 4: so I didn't have many looks out of college professionally wise,
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  Speaker 4: and luckily Jo d reached out and that I had
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  Speaker 4: to work out with him, and I had a couple
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  Speaker 4: other workouts with some teams. Most of them were kind
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  Speaker 4: of preseason style, like both places that I had a
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  Speaker 4: chance to go if I didn't get drafted, where they
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  Speaker 4: were pretty locked.
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  Speaker 2: In on who their guy was.
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  Speaker 4: It was just more of a preseason kind of leg
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  Speaker 4: and an opportunity to punt and we're NFL helmets, so
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  Speaker 4: those were going to be cool. Anyways, and I ended
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  Speaker 4: up I guess the workout went pretty good and Pro
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  Speaker 4: day was okay, and I got drafted, and uh, I
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  Speaker 4: definitely matured a lot as a punter through my through
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  Speaker 4: my years from from eighteen to now in college, and
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  Speaker 4: you look at my stats.
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  Speaker 2: I was not very good in certain categories. I was not.
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  Speaker 4: But luckily Jody saw something and I'm forever grateful, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to him forgetting me here. And and uh yeah eighteen,
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  Speaker 4: I had a few bad games out of the jump,
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  Speaker 4: and there was a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of people you were a little concerned about being cut.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think my first three games now it was kind
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  Speaker 4: of undermine because I think we beat the Giants at
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  Speaker 4: New York, and we beat the Patriots at home, and
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  Speaker 4: then the Titans at home, so we were kind of
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  Speaker 4: three and zero rolling.
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  Speaker 2: But I wasn't punting great.
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  Speaker 3: Lost to the Titans and then beat the Jets.
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  Speaker 4: But okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I remember we beat the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots pretty early too, maybe, and but anyways, I was
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  Speaker 4: not punting great.
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  Speaker 2: And it was actually the Jets game that week I.
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  Speaker 4: Came into uh, you know where old facility was at
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  Speaker 4: the stadium. We'd walked down this long hallway to practice
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about, and one day we were walking back
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  Speaker 4: out from practice, It's probably like a Wednesday or Thursday
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  Speaker 4: of the Jets week, and there were three punters walking
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  Speaker 4: out with some scouts to go work out.
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  Speaker 2: I remember I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was so furious in my mind, I'm just like,
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  Speaker 4: what is just like Jody told me, I was fine
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  Speaker 4: and all this stuff. And I remember Carson Tinker at
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  Speaker 4: the time told me he was like, Hey, you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be here as long as you're going to be here,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's one more week or ten more years.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, it's already written, so just relax.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's I mean, honestly, he don't even we
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  Speaker 4: talked about this when he was here preseason last year.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't remember saying that. But that's a ton of things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think talks a lot.
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  Speaker 4: But that was something stuck with me and I ended
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  Speaker 4: up playing okay that week and kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we figured it out a little bit since then.
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  Speaker 3: So who's the uh?
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  Speaker 1: I was saying by this on the price field to day,
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  Speaker 1: So I figured out to ask you, who's the better
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  Speaker 1: guy at the other job, meaning if you had to kick,
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  Speaker 1: or if Cam had to punt, if Cam Little had
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  Speaker 1: to punt.
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  Speaker 4: This is the first year where I think I don't
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  Speaker 4: really know. Okay, now, before me I punted. I kicked
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  Speaker 4: in high school, in college. I've kicked off here too,
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  Speaker 4: so I've always, you know, been kicking. But Cam's a
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  Speaker 4: pretty dang good punter, so honestly, to to to fit
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  Speaker 4: them into a game today, I think I would have
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  Speaker 4: to say Cam because it wouldn't look too odd. But
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  Speaker 4: there's a chance I'm going to hit a sixty five
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  Speaker 4: yarder and there's a chance I'm going to dug hook
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  Speaker 4: it and up you know, the bleachers, So it's kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of fifty fifty there.
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  Speaker 1: How much time do you guys spend working on the
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  Speaker 1: other skill? You do a little bit just because you
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  Speaker 1: know you're sort of the backup.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, my my rotle thumb is once a month.
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  Speaker 4: Once a month, I'll hit a couple of kicks and
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  Speaker 4: maybe maybe I hit one rep with you know, Max,
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  Speaker 4: our backup polder right now, maybe I'll get one repping
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  Speaker 4: team with Matt, but mostly maybe get six eight field
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  Speaker 4: goals on some sticks off to the side, just to
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  Speaker 4: keep that fresh and maybe hit one kickoff now.
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  Speaker 1: Is that I've been told through the years some guys
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  Speaker 1: don't like to do the other stroke because it messes up.
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  Speaker 4: But if you watch, if you watch Cam punt, the
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  Speaker 4: way the kicker swings across his body kind of if
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  Speaker 4: you watch Cam punt, he'll drop the ball inside and
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  Speaker 4: swing across to to make the ball spiral.
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  Speaker 2: The same way.
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  Speaker 4: When I'm kicking a field goal, I'm very linear, So
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  Speaker 4: my field goal swing kind of looks a little funky
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  Speaker 4: because I swing straight instead of across. At this level,
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  Speaker 4: you've done it so much it's not gonna do morph
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  Speaker 4: the other but.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, realistically, you're doing it for a one game,
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  Speaker 1: right Like if that happens, you're not in there for
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  Speaker 1: the long term anyways.
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  Speaker 3: So very emergency.
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  Speaker 1: So can you and will you name your kickers?
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  Speaker 3: Since you've been here?
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  Speaker 2: I think I can? So all right?
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  Speaker 4: Are we talking just like in season? Actually played?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, you've held for.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Start with Lambeau, Kyle four Bath, Aldrich, Roseauce.
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  Speaker 2: We had this is miket out of order.
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  Speaker 4: Here for a second tough Stephen Hauska, John Brown, Brandon Wright,
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  Speaker 4: Matthew Wright, Chase McLoughlin. I'm trying to get later now, Riley,
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  Speaker 4: Brandon McManus and then Cam did I missed any.
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  Speaker 3: Of you want a smoothie?
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  Speaker 2: All right? I love that. I'll take it. I'll take
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  Speaker 2: it that. That's it's crazy the lists got that long.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it uh.
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  Speaker 1: And but you have a relationship with all those guys,
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  Speaker 1: right yeah, I mean that's how and uh, it seems
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  Speaker 1: that you're now working with a guy you can be
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  Speaker 1: working with for a while. I talk about him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Just a young kid, obviously, but he's a
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  Speaker 1: different cat.
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  Speaker 2: He is.
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  Speaker 4: He is, he's a he's a really good kid man
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  Speaker 4: he uh. I know, whenever we drafted him, Coach Peterson
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  Speaker 4: was talking to him about him and he was like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just bear with him for a little bit
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  Speaker 4: because he talks a lot, you know, And and he
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  Speaker 4: does and that's that. That's just from being a young kid.
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  Speaker 2: And I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather have him than a stick in the mud,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So he uh, he's a really good kid,
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  Speaker 4: strong leg, small body, but he just rips that thing.
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  Speaker 4: And he's a very confident kicker. Forgot who I was
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  Speaker 4: telling last week in an interview, But it was. You
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  Speaker 4: always notice the confidence of a kicker from their second
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  Speaker 4: from their kick after a miss, whether it's practice a game.
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  Speaker 4: And the first kick he missed in camp, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure if he missed one early ot or not, but
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  Speaker 4: but but in camp, the first kick he missed the team.
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  Speaker 4: The next kick he I mean kicked it so hard.
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  Speaker 4: And that's how you kind of see. It's kind of
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  Speaker 4: like a pitcher, right, I pitched a little bit and
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  Speaker 4: and like if you if you're you're missing the strikes
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  Speaker 4: on you try to aim the ball when you start
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  Speaker 4: missing high and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So the same deal with kicking. A lot of these kickers.
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  Speaker 4: You'll see him miss a kick, especially in the game,
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  Speaker 4: and the next kick they really try to aim the ball,
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  Speaker 4: guide it and even if it goes through, it's not
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  Speaker 4: a very powerful kick, or sometimes it'll fade off to
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  Speaker 4: the right.
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  Speaker 2: But no, he's he's a very confident.
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  Speaker 4: Kicker, you know, big leg and he's uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: hopefully he's here, uh, Lisa, as long as I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys, ever get tired as kickers of being
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  Speaker 1: sort of called eccentric. A coach is saying you got
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  Speaker 1: a bear with this guy, or is that just something
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  Speaker 1: you sort of embrace of. Hey, that's part, that's part
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  Speaker 1: of it. There is a little bit you gotta be
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  Speaker 1: a little different to do what you guys do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to an extent. I mean personally, I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was, you know, quarterback and stuff in high school,
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  Speaker 4: and I've always been been involved there, h I kind
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  Speaker 4: of you know, the older I get, I don't you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'd love for everyone else to make the tackle, but
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  Speaker 4: I'll still you know, throw my head there when I
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  Speaker 4: have to.
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  Speaker 2: And I like hitting people too.
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  Speaker 4: So for me, I've always been a ball guy kind
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  Speaker 4: of saying to deal with Ross Russ was obviously the
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  Speaker 4: linebacker Baylor and more from the snapper. But so for me,
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  Speaker 4: I still feel like I might not look like it,
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  Speaker 4: but I still feel like I'm a ball guy. So
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel that as much. But I know, for instance,
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  Speaker 4: a guy like Cam like a lot of people try
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  Speaker 4: to ruffle his feathers all the time, just messing with him,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't think you can.
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  Speaker 1: So what I was gonna ask you about the athleticism
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  Speaker 1: of it. And it's funny. In the time I've covered
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  Speaker 1: the league, I've dealt with so many punters, most of
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  Speaker 1: them are good athletes. I mean, it's it's sort of
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  Speaker 1: a misnomer that it's not. Why do you think that is?
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  Speaker 1: And do you agree that punters are very underrated athletes
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  Speaker 1: for the most part.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the game today is kind of definitely turned into that.
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  Speaker 4: I think personally, I didn't watch a lot of NFL
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  Speaker 4: football growing up, just growing up in the South, that
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  Speaker 4: was SEC was was kind of kind of the deal there.
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  Speaker 4: And so looking back now that I've been in the
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  Speaker 4: league and seeing old punters and even kickers, honestly, there
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  Speaker 4: was kind of punters and kickers punting and kick because
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  Speaker 4: they weren't athletic enough to play to play other positions. Well,
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  Speaker 4: nowadays you're seeing that a lot of people are figuring out, Like,
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  Speaker 4: for instance, me, I want to be an a college quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: and I realized rarely I was not good enough to
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  Speaker 4: do that.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to find a.
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  Speaker 4: Way for me to get into college and play playing
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  Speaker 4: the SEC and that was punny. But yeah, you're seeing
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  Speaker 4: a lot of that. You know, coordinators are loving fakes.
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  Speaker 4: Coordinators I love an athletic guy who don't They don't
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  Speaker 4: have to worry about catching a snap back there. They're
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  Speaker 4: obviously holding for field goals too, punters are and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean it adds an extra cover man too, if
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  Speaker 4: you have a guy who's not afraid to get in
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  Speaker 4: there a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: How much pride do you take in the holding, because
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  Speaker 1: it seems like that's something that's pretty underrated for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very consistent at that spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: I that's probably the most stressful part of my job
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  Speaker 4: by far. I grew up calf roping, So in the
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  Speaker 4: team roping world, you have a header and a healer,
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  Speaker 4: and these guys can travel hours and hours ago to
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  Speaker 4: a roping, and if the header misses, the healer don't
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  Speaker 4: even get a play.
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  Speaker 2: So that's kind of the way I feel. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 2: So I.
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  Speaker 4: Grew up calf roping, so I didn't didn't really ever
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  Speaker 4: team rope competitively. But you you have a header and
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  Speaker 4: you have a steer that comes out, and the header's
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  Speaker 4: on the left side of the steer and the healers
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  Speaker 4: on the right. And I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: have no idea what I'm talking about, but the steer
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  Speaker 4: comes out of the box and the header ropes the head.
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  Speaker 2: The horns of the steer pulls him.
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  Speaker 3: Off to the left and okay, got you right.
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  Speaker 4: And then the healer gets the you know those rope
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  Speaker 4: on the back two legs or a leg, preferably two
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  Speaker 4: legs and for a better score. And when that dally
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  Speaker 4: off and stretch the steer tight. Well, if the head
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  Speaker 4: er misses, then it's over. So that's the way I
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  Speaker 4: feel with with with holding is obviously Ross's money all
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  Speaker 4: the time. So if like it starts with me, he's
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  Speaker 4: kind of you know, not he's automatic. But for me
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  Speaker 4: catching a snap, if I don't present how it's supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be, then than cam he can make it work.
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  Speaker 2: But if it's bad enough, he don't have a shot.
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  Speaker 4: So I take I try to take a lot of
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  Speaker 4: pride in that to be the best I can for him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, So more stress for you when you're holding
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  Speaker 1: than punny because you feel like punning you can control.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's not.
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  Speaker 4: So the stress is more. I'm controlling this man's destiny
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  Speaker 4: so to speak. Right, all right, So in college, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you want me to do this, but
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  Speaker 4: I want to go back. In college, I had a
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  Speaker 4: lefty I think he transferred from another school, and we
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  Speaker 4: had Arriety who had been there for a little while,
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  Speaker 4: and they were going.
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  Speaker 2: To compete senior year.
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  Speaker 3: That's tough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, going into my senior year.
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  Speaker 4: And I'd never held for a lefty ever, right and
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the lefty was a very talented kicker.
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  Speaker 4: Whether he was better than righty, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 4: on sticks, they're you know, super talented guy, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kicked the ball very far.
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  Speaker 2: And I just could not hold for him.
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  Speaker 4: And I would tell him all the time, like driving
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  Speaker 4: field goal set like I'm dude, I'm sorry, like I'm
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  Speaker 4: so sorry, I'm really ruining your opportunity to play play
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  Speaker 4: here and uh, and sure enough, he did not want
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  Speaker 4: the job.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a Justin Tucker out there somewhere. They never
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  Speaker 3: got it.
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  Speaker 2: That's him.
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  Speaker 4: That's him, and he knows who he is. So here's
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  Speaker 4: this again. I'm sorry, but it's.
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  Speaker 1: A complete reversal of instinct, like a different hands doing
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  Speaker 1: different things.
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  Speaker 3: You get.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Uh, tell me about Ross?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, how good is he?
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  Speaker 1: People don't always pay attention to that job, but obviously
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  Speaker 1: all pro for a reason.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the kid is he's unbelievd. Well he Uh,
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  Speaker 4: it's I know some people might hear me saying the
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  Speaker 4: snappers unbelievable and think it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But if you if you.
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  Speaker 4: Know football and understand the long snapper position, it's usually
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  Speaker 4: you have punter kicker and then usually the way people
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  Speaker 4: look at us the long snapper, that's just kind of
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  Speaker 4: But Ross's I mean, he led our team last year
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  Speaker 4: in special teams tackles. He had a strip a strip
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  Speaker 4: tackle and recovered the ball. He uh, he's he's very
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  Speaker 4: obviously very sound and protection stuff and nose ball. We
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  Speaker 4: always joked that he's always call him Jeff Saturday of
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  Speaker 4: the punt team.
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  Speaker 2: He's always pointing people out and whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But uh no, between him and Dewey sitting there at
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  Speaker 4: pep in the center and snapper, they uh they pretty
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  Speaker 4: much kind of control the interior a gaps on punt
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  Speaker 4: proach and that's I mean them two they're like this yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And uh yeah. So he's a he's a great player.
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  Speaker 4: And I think playing linebacker, you know, linebacker and college
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  Speaker 4: helps out a ton. My snapper in college played tight
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  Speaker 4: end for a couple of years before he hurt both
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  Speaker 4: knees and had to snap. And so I've always been
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  Speaker 4: blessed to have very athletics snappers, and so yeah, he's
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: he's pretty good.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: How much time do you spend practicing holding versus practicing punting?
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Is it.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: Fairly?
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: How does that work?
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Used to?
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: When I got to college, I knew how to hold,
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: but I wasn't holding. Dak held the first year I
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: was in college, and then the next year I started holding.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: And I did a lot of a lot of work.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Back then, mainly because the stress because in high school
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: I always kicked, so I obviously never held, and uh yeah,
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: so holding was was new from the standpoint of doing
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: it in the game. So I did work a lot,
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: did a lot of jug stuff, a lot of work there.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: But I'm a big, like, don't overthink.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: It kind of guy.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: So now that i'm kind of I've got to this point,
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: I just try to you know, Raw snaps a good
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: bit during the game and pregame and stuff and on
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: the side in practice, so I get my work there
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: with him, but I just try not to overthink it.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Better holder you were, Dak, Well, I have a big
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah got him, I mean, yeah, I took his job,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: you know, But uh no, I have a I have
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: a video I kicked one kick in uh in college
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: one field goal at Kentucky, right, hash, I think it
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: was like forty two forty seven yarder and I mean
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: just yanked it in the tunnel and uh and you.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Know that's the holder.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Dak was the hold. Look.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: I was not a great kicker either, and and Dak's
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: not gonna hear this, but he obviously unbelievable college quarterback
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: and everything.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: But I will say the hole was a little off there.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: Uh but uh no, he he had way more important
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: things to do than worry about holding.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Got you.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Uh, what would the veteran, the most tenured logan cook.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Tell the rookie.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Mmm, uh, this isn't gonna be his in.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Depth because the veteran's seen some stuff.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Uh, I'll give you two answers. One answer is the
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: football answer, and that is don't try so hard.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: The biggest thinger had as a rookie, yeah I was.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I was still trying to hit these five zero balls,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: you know, hitting the ball sixty yards, bombing the ball.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: And and what I've learned kind of now into the
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: game is a little later is if I just play
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: keep away with that guy, the game is way easier.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: So for me, to For me to used to it
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: was me punning against the football hypothetically, is the way
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I look at it, I'm trying to punt this ball
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: as high and far as I can right of center
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: and left of center. Well, now the game's morphed into
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: for me mentally, is how can I take that guy
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: out of the game, whether it's you know.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: You're almost defending the returner right.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh and in some games, if you're playing
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: a really good returner, you might just understand, hey, this week,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: we're not gonna net fifty five yards or fifty yards
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: this week.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: So everybody else is looking at averaging net yeah, and
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you're looking at return yeah.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: And and net obviously plays in a role with that,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: and you gotta have good gunner's, great cover guys, protection guys.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: But and again they do such a good job protection wise,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: where I just get to sit back there and think
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: about this stuff. And there's several times and that the
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: returners back there and and he might.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Be shaded it this way a little bit.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: So then I try to do something the next punt
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: that doesn't them going this way, but we go this way,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: and it changes the game a lot from instead of
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: just trying to hit bombs all the time, and if
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: you hit your A ball, your A ball mishit is
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: not great. If you're just trying to hit your B
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: ball every time, then your B ball mishit is a
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: little more control, if that makes sense. Last week, for instance,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: this past week, pretty windy game had like a hard
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: cross win. I feel like Rookie Logan would have struggled
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: because I was just trying to drop the ball very high.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And still vomb it. But I had to understand that game.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm probably not gonna be able to just
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: pinpoint the ball in sideline this week because what the
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: wind was doing.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: You're probably not getting Special Teams Player of the Week.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: And then yeah, right, But so I have to figure
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: out which is this is where like the banana ball
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: comes into play, cross field like indo of rimpunt a
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: low liner ball, like these things coming to play and
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: windy games where it's like Rookie Logan didn't have those
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: clubs in his bag, so the punning was a.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Little more difficult in a sense.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: The more in depth, in depth answer I think will
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: be just enjoy the finer things of life. I really
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I'm a big love life kind of guy. Yeah, and
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I feel that right, and uh where I'm at now?
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: And I think this comes obviously from playing playing a
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: good bit in the league. But I have I have
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of understanding of the script's already written for
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: me sure, and so whatever the story is, like, he's
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: already planned it out. So I just gotta I just
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: gotta have fun and enjoy it and not stress about
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: the little things, you know. I mean, seventh year Logan
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: needs to hear that too.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we all do.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So the last thing we do is the ozone five.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: It's five quick questions, Logan Cook, what was your last
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: binge watch?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I watched a lot of YouTube.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Uh, golly, what will be my last binge watch? I
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: watched The Office every time. I just keep running the office. Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I do run the office over.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: The last song you heard this morning?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: On the way in, I listened to podcast Uh.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: What podcasts you listen to?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: The w I listened to several. I gotta.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I listened to Masio Gamekeepers podcasts. I listened to Pat
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: mcaview's podcast This Show All the Time. And I listened
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: to another Masso podcast, Uh, cous Strickland's fistful of dirt.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: It's all Hunting Land Management podcast. So shout out to
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: those guys and.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: The ozone podcast and best punch you've ever hit, it's.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Got to be a couple of weeks ago Green Bay game.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think right, that's yeah the park home run, for.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Sure, don't I'll never try to up that one for sure.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Now, was that is that one where you're going after
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: it or does it just happen?
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's there's points in the field where it's
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: uh so for me, if the ball in my mind,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: if the ball is on the third to thirty five
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: yard line, I can I can rip away, got you there.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I'm aiming at the pile on pretty much whether I'm
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: one right or left. And if we get a good
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: kick and it goes out the one where it's a
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: hypothetically seventy yard net that the balls of thirty, but
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: if it goes and the ends almost a fifty yard net,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: so it's you're really trying to take advantage of the
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: opportunity there. Now we get to the forty in that range,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I'm really trying to keep it more towards the eight
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: to twelve yard line.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Just almost like a hole in one yeah, pretty.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Much in my mind.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had several points where I hit that and
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: you know, the ball's not as far, And there was
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: a couple other punts that game. We were the same
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: part of the field where I dropped the ball a
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: little inside, so it was a good punt, but it
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: landed more numbers and keeps right and then on instead
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: of landing over there like the other one did. But
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: that ball too was a show right returner was cheating
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: right a little bit and we yanked it to the
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: left and he couldn't get to it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: So that's the keypaway aspect to see.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: You grew up playing quarterback. What's the first touchdown ever? Score?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Do you remember it?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Honestly?
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I probably ran it, didn't we didn't throw the ball ton,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: but uh yeah. I also play receiver my senior year
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and some of my junior and senior year, and we
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: had another guy come up that was that was a
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: better quarterback than me, which I accepted that as well,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: and so I scored some touchdowns there too, but definitely
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: probably running it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Best football memory.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Golly, I would have to go Chargers Chargers twenty two
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: being part of that moment, Yes, it was.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It was a very cool moment. You know. It was.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: From Riley hitting the game winner to us being down
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: so bad and feeling and seeing the team like Rilly
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: and playing one of my only night games in Jacksonville.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It was pretty fun, very special.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Wellgan Cook, I always enjoy talking to you. I can't
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: thank you enough for doing that in a busy week.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining the ozone podcast.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Thank you