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Speaker 1: Is the good report. Tonight, Donald Trump's so called peace
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Speaker 1: plan betrays Israel's prime minister leaves him fighting for his
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Speaker 1: political life. Also tonight by Pauline Hansen's One Nation It's
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Speaker 1: actually fun just check its the latest undercover stunt and
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Speaker 1: for a minus the Penny Wong where apiece a dangerous
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Speaker 1: me too trick to push lurid rate claims, and plenty more,
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Speaker 1: including Metcanavan. But first look, there's plenty about One Nation
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Speaker 1: to criticize, but what we're seeing right now is mostly
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Speaker 1: an offensive spear. You know, One Nation is racist, exactly
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Speaker 1: the sort of name calling we've heard from Pauline Hansen's
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Speaker 1: haters for thirty years now, except right now they're getting
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Speaker 1: more desperate. And tonight two examples. First, the Guard in
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Speaker 1: Australia around this bombshell exclusive One Nation branch official defended
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Speaker 1: Hitler youth and called Aboriginal people's stone age in racist posts,
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Speaker 1: and I confess it did immediately suck me in. I thought,
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Speaker 1: good god, you know, how could one nation appoint such
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Speaker 1: a moron as an official? And the first paragraph indeed
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Speaker 1: stated as fact it had. Reporter Sarah Martin wrote, a
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Speaker 1: man who has defended the Hitler Youth organization. He used
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Speaker 1: defensive and racist language about Aboriginal people and migrants, is
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Speaker 1: working as a policy development officer for One Nation in
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Speaker 1: Queensland and this claims to viral. The Coalition show grabbed
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Speaker 1: them like a life raft on the Titanic.
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Speaker 2: Now we have a gentleman who's a Hitler Youth apologist,
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Speaker 2: a Nazi apologist, still working in the party.
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Speaker 1: A strange thing in the third paragraph of this Guard
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Speaker 1: In Australia's story smelled a rat. It said, this man
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Speaker 1: John Drew, who does indeed sound like a racist, confirm
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Speaker 1: to the paper that he holds the role of policy
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Speaker 1: development officer with the Ryan branch of One Nation in Brisbane,
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Speaker 1: but then added this he would not say whether he
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Speaker 1: had been elected or appointed to the position. And I thought,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, is there some doubt then about whether
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Speaker 1: Drew really is a One Nation official? Self appointed? Maybe?
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Speaker 1: And it's true this Drew character had once run for
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Speaker 1: One Nation twenty five years ago, but said it's soon
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Speaker 1: been dumped for being too radical. So I talked to
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Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson and to James Ashby achieve a staff today
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Speaker 1: about this John Drew and Ashby, who couldn't remember Drew
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Speaker 1: had all said, what is a policy development officer with
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Speaker 1: one nation? But that can't be we don't actually have
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Speaker 1: these positions. He might be a member, but we don't
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Speaker 1: actually have these positions. The other Guard in Australias for instead,
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Speaker 1: is fat what appears to be an attempt to spear
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Speaker 1: one nation, which I must say does seem to me
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Speaker 1: to be Sarah Martin's assignment with that paper. Since the
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Speaker 1: last twenty eight articles and podcasts for the Guard in Australia,
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Speaker 1: twenty five of them bag one nation its big don
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Speaker 1: to Gina Rhina twenty five of the twenty eight to
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Speaker 1: the second example, public broadcaster Recipes is very left wing
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Speaker 1: and is funding does depend on the multiculturalism ideology, you know,
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Speaker 1: helping the tribes of Australia to stay apart, give us
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Speaker 1: government funds and will do just that. So no surprise
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Speaker 1: that it put together an add about the soccer Ruse
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Speaker 1: who performed so brilliantly this week of the World Cup,
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Speaker 1: winning two neil against Turkey. I watched it all, but
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Speaker 1: it's hand struck me as quite intentionally political. I was
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Speaker 1: born in Kokoma refugee camp in Kenya. My parents are
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Speaker 1: Saso de Nice. I was born in Brisbane, Australia.
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Speaker 3: My family migrated from Silence.
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Speaker 1: I was born in Canberra, Australia. I was born in Italy,
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Speaker 1: raised in Perth.
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Speaker 4: I was born in gee And I came to Australia
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Speaker 4: with my family as a refugee. I was born in Sydney, Australia.
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Speaker 5: I was born in Newcastle, New South Wales.
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Speaker 4: Our family emigrated from Scotland to Western Australia. I fled
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Speaker 4: my birthplace canin Croatia as an eighteen month old baby.
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Speaker 4: I lived as a refugee in Serbia until we moved
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Speaker 4: at the age of six to Sydney.
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Speaker 2: No matter where you come from, footballs for everyone.
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Speaker 6: No matter where you come from, footballs for everyone.
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Speaker 2: No matter where you come from, football as for everyone.
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Speaker 2: The soccers aren't just a team. We are a reflection
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Speaker 2: of modern Australia.
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Speaker 1: Our diversity is our strength. Our diversity is our strength.
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Speaker 1: Is that so? If so, why have the players been
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Speaker 1: trained to perform as a unit as a team. Putting
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Speaker 1: the Australian team first, No divided loyalties. You can't now
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Speaker 1: and then kick a goal for the other side. Now,
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Speaker 1: sure other people clearly assumed that this was the SBS
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Speaker 1: which broadcasts the World Cup, having a dig at Pauling
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Speaker 1: Hanson in one nation which does have a policy to
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Speaker 1: stop public funding of SBS, for instance, Julian Hill, the
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Speaker 1: Albizi Governors System, Multiculturals and Minister yesterday urged Goy and
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Speaker 1: news viewers to watch these this sad Yeah watched. We
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Speaker 1: have to do it right about the soccer ows and
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Speaker 1: also he said watch out for racists out there in
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Speaker 1: the immigration debate.
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Speaker 7: They reflect modern Australia. There's people who were born here,
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Speaker 7: people from Britain, from New Zealand, but also people who've
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Speaker 7: arrived as refugees from different countries and continents, all working
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Speaker 7: together or with that one goal of doing Australia proud.
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Speaker 7: And they won and you know, I really recommend that video.
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Speaker 7: Being concerned about immigration is not racist, but there are
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Speaker 7: some people using this migration debate and anxiety to push
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Speaker 7: racist views.
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Speaker 1: Now, other political figures went in much harder. He had
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Speaker 1: former Victorian labor in p John Kennedy posting eighteen players
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Speaker 1: direct immigrant or a refugee heritage over fifteen different ethnic
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Speaker 1: backgrounds and so on, and concluding if you support one nation,
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Speaker 1: then don't support the soccer US. Just be a racist,
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Speaker 1: not a racist hypocrite. Former Green's candidate also had the
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Speaker 1: same ridiculous take, Hannah Thomas, one nation would deport half
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Speaker 1: the soccer us will actually, Hannah, that is false, and
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Speaker 1: it would defund SBS so we couldn't even watch them.
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Speaker 1: Also false, Hannah, some other broadcasters would get the rights.
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Speaker 1: And she goes on gentle reminder that if you enjoy
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Speaker 1: that win today, you shouldn't be on team Paul Lane,
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Speaker 1: which is a third falsehood because in fact one Nation
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Speaker 1: doesn't need to be told that good and useful people
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Speaker 1: have come from overseas. Barnaby Joyce's father came from New Zealand,
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Speaker 1: the father of One Nation's South Australian leader Cory Bernardi
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Speaker 1: Leon on the left ear he came from Italy, and
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Speaker 1: Bernardi two nevertheless represented Australia at the World Rowing Championship.
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Speaker 1: And Hanson herself was once Missus Pauline Sagowski when she
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Speaker 1: married a Polish refuge So no, the mere sight of
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Speaker 1: an immigrant is not a shock for One Nation supporters,
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Speaker 1: and especially not that immigrant is doing good. I mean
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Speaker 1: talk about Hansen Hater's missing the point. One nation is
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Speaker 1: against bringing in so many immigrants so fast that our
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Speaker 1: cities can't cope. One nation is against bringing in people
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Speaker 1: that don't actually want to play for Team Australia. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they want to even play against Team Australia. But Hanson
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Speaker 1: Hayters seemed too dumb and dishonest to know this obvious difference.
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Speaker 1: But if you do want to criticize one nation, I
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Speaker 1: have something for you. One nation wants to be the
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Speaker 1: next government. But who will be its MPs? Who will
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Speaker 1: be its ministers, like you know, in charge of the money,
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Speaker 1: in charge of the schools, in charge of our defense.
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Speaker 1: And this is particularly a question right now in Victoria
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Speaker 1: because one Nation there is just one MP and just
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Speaker 1: one known candidate ahead of the Victorian election due and
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Speaker 1: only four months. The latest resolved poll shows one Nation
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Speaker 1: now on twenty four percent support, just under that for
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Speaker 1: Labor and the Coalition. In fact, the trend is even
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Speaker 1: more amazing than that. This poll is the average of
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Speaker 1: two one taken in May and the other this month.
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Speaker 1: But the one taking this month shows one Nation's vote
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Speaker 1: since May actually shot to the front. One nation's actually
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Speaker 1: if you just take that one poll, this month on
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Speaker 1: twenty eight percent. Now it sounds so extrawdared to ask,
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Speaker 1: but who would be the premier if one nation actually one?
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Speaker 1: In Victoria this rate? It may well And two names
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Speaker 1: have been thrown around. One is of war hero Hesston
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Speaker 1: and Russell, who is an impressive military career but no
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Speaker 1: political experience and in my opinion, a bit of a
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Speaker 1: loose cannon. And indeed Hessen's honesty was shredded by a
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Speaker 1: judge when he successfully sued the ABC for defamation. The
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Speaker 1: other person, considering tossing his hat in the one nation ring,
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Speaker 1: and I checked with him today, is Adam Giles, who
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Speaker 1: is an impressive experience from being the chief Minister for
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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. It's got indigenous background too, extra points
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Speaker 1: in Red Victoria and now has a property in Victoria
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Speaker 1: as well. And the problem there, of course, is that
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Speaker 1: Adam Charles's relatively unknown in Victoria. And what's more is
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Speaker 1: one of the top executives now of billionaire Gina Ronhart,
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Speaker 1: a big supporter of one Nation, and you know the
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Speaker 1: story he'd be attacked as part of a re Reinhardt
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Speaker 1: takeover of one Nation unfair, but I think that would
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Speaker 1: hurt So isn't this crazy. You have a poll showing
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Speaker 1: one nation could even win the next Victorian election. The
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Speaker 1: votes are there, but the candidates are not. Never seen
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Speaker 1: anything like it, and some good news for now anyway.
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Speaker 1: The Reserve Bank today held off lifting interest rates again.
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Speaker 1: It's suing a wait and see before raising them. As
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Speaker 1: the Reserve Bank governor said today, I want to.
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Speaker 8: Be very clear that inflation remains too high, leading rates
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Speaker 8: on whold today the board to assess how these previous
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Speaker 8: increases are flowing through the economy. Today's decision does not
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Speaker 8: rule out further tightening and monetary policy if that is
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Speaker 8: what is required to bring inflation down.
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Speaker 1: But the Treasure is still took that as a win.
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Speaker 3: This is reassuring in the face of all of this
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Speaker 3: global economic volatility. It's a welcome reprieve for millions of
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Speaker 3: Australians with a mortgage. It doesn't make life any easier
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Speaker 3: for people, but it doesn't make life harder either.
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Speaker 1: Dan, of course, charms being charmers. He blamed the rest
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Speaker 1: of the world for the troubles back here, but that
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Speaker 1: said reality is sitting on about in two weeks. The
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Speaker 1: governments temporary cut to the fuel exis levy will end,
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Speaker 1: which makes sense. Actually got to admit, since that cut
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Speaker 1: was there to cosate for the jumping fuel prices during
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Speaker 1: the Iran War, which Trump claims is now over, and
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Speaker 1: oil prices are indeed now falling.
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Speaker 3: We've always said that that fuel excise relief will be temporary.
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Speaker 3: It won't go on forever, but on a week to
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Speaker 3: week basis, we review it and that's what we've been
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Speaker 3: doing and that's what we will continue to do until
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Speaker 3: the end of the month.
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Speaker 1: That's Jawn a short while ago by a regular Tuesday
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Speaker 1: commentator Mt Canavan, the Nationals leader Make Canavan, great to
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Speaker 1: see you. Do we keep that fuel exos relief fifty
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Speaker 1: percent cut or not?
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Speaker 2: Look, the conditions are not there to continue this. What
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Speaker 2: is just temporary relief. The fuel xis is there to
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Speaker 2: help fund our roads and we need to do that,
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Speaker 2: especially where I live. In regional areas. We called first
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Speaker 2: Angus Taro and I we the first to get out
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Speaker 2: there and call for the relief. A few months ago.
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Speaker 2: We did that when petro prices were above three dollars
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Speaker 2: a liter. They're now largely below two dollars a leter.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes these a little bit over that, but it's back
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Speaker 2: down their back down levels that were about the same
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Speaker 2: as before the war. Certainly prices we've seen the last
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Speaker 2: few years, so look, conditions are just not there. I
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Speaker 2: think we should keep our powder dry though if prices
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Speaker 2: do spike again, we should keep that in reserve, because
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Speaker 2: this relief does cost two and a half billion dollars
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Speaker 2: for every three months, running at ten billion dollars a year,
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Speaker 2: and right now the priority has to be to get
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Speaker 2: the government budget into some sort of health and shape
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Speaker 2: to take pressure off inflation and interest rates. Notwithstanding the
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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank's decision today, they're clearly keeping a watching brief
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Speaker 2: here around inflation as they noticed, still above above what
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Speaker 2: they like it to be. It's one of the highest
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Speaker 2: rates in the world here in Australia and it was
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Speaker 2: like that before I run. So we desperately need to
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Speaker 2: get that under control, because twenty five cents a lead
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Speaker 2: off petrol at the pump is good for people. But
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Speaker 2: what would be much better is if we had a
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Speaker 2: government that ran a competent budget and brought interest rates
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Speaker 2: and inflation down.
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Speaker 1: It'd be even better if it was a government controlled
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Speaker 1: of spending so much that you could afford to give
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Speaker 1: away a fifty percent cut in petrolic says, because you
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Speaker 1: cut spending. Match But anywhey, there you go. Big day
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Speaker 1: in politics tomorrow, very big day, Matt. For the first
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Speaker 1: time in her thirty years in politics. You've got Pauline
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Speaker 1: Hanson giving a formal speech to the National Press Club.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the media all ago. They want to
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Speaker 1: really hold her up. They want to make their name
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Speaker 1: by taking her down. It is a big test for her. Indeed,
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Speaker 1: what would you like to see happen?
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Speaker 2: Look, well, I want to see good outcomes for the
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Speaker 2: Australian people. I welcome political competition, Andrew, I think it
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Speaker 2: sharpens everybody up. So good on Pauline. It has taken
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Speaker 2: thirty years, but good for accepting an invitation. I think
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Speaker 2: it's a good thing. As I say, we need better
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Speaker 2: outcomes for Australians and we are seeing a lot of
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Speaker 2: Australians taken interest in politics for the first time in
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Speaker 2: a long time. That's because their own lives are going
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Speaker 2: backwards and they're searching for answers. There's a lot of
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Speaker 2: volatility in politics right now. I embrace that. I welcome
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Speaker 2: that because I do think we need volatility. I want change,
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Speaker 2: want a change of government. I think the current government
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Speaker 2: has no plan to improve our living standards. They're refusing
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Speaker 2: to act on migration like the vast majority of Australians
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Speaker 2: people want. And so for the health of our democracy,
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Speaker 2: we need a government that does respond to the people's demands.
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Speaker 2: And having more people out there make these points is
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Speaker 2: a good thing for a democracy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt. By the way, I should tell the viewers,
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Speaker 1: scone is just going to cover Hanson's appearance at the
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Speaker 1: Press Club tomorrow live from twelve thirty, and we'll be
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Speaker 1: obviously doing an analysis on the show after that. But Matt,
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Speaker 1: you must be so frustrated to see Hans's popular popularity
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Speaker 1: rise and rise, and at the cost of the Coalition's
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Speaker 1: vodaf to say, and I just wonder if it's occurred
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Speaker 1: to you particularly you see the Liberals doing so terribly
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Speaker 1: in the polls. Whether and I know you were against
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Speaker 1: breaking the coalition, but I wonder whether you think now
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Speaker 1: you might be freer to be the Matt Canavan we
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Speaker 1: know and love, and how do you want as a
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Speaker 1: commodation for so long? Whether you'd be freer to be
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Speaker 1: that guy? If you weren't in coalition anymore, and you
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Speaker 1: could speak your mind about you know, the Paris Agreement
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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Andrew. You want Matt Canivan unplugged or
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Speaker 2: unleashed or something like that. But look, mate, I'm still
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Speaker 2: the same guy. But I am a guy who wants
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Speaker 2: to get things done, and I recognize that I can't
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Speaker 2: do all those things on my own.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Sure, I'd love to just you know, fly off the
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Speaker 2: handle whenever I want, go on rants. It's not going
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Speaker 2: to help improve the living stands of austrange people. I've
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Speaker 2: got to work with other people to do that. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: sometimes I work with people that I don't always agree with.
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Speaker 1: That's okay.
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Speaker 2: Now, I did get fined myself a few years ago,
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Speaker 2: thinking no, I just can't sign up to things like
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Speaker 2: net zero, and we've been over that at length and
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Speaker 2: now in our contributions. But I can work with other others.
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Speaker 2: And we have worked together very strongly level and national
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Speaker 2: parties over eighty years for the betterment of our country.
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Speaker 2: And that's I'll do. I'll work with anyone to do that.
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Speaker 2: I'll continue to fight for things and our way back.
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Speaker 2: You ask if I'm frustrated. No, as I said, I
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Speaker 2: think we've got an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we face challenges, We face a lot of challenges,
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Speaker 2: but every challenge comes to an opportunity. And as I
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Speaker 2: say to the astrange, people now have opened their minds
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Speaker 2: to voting for other parties. Our job, we've got two
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Speaker 2: years or so to do. It's a long time. Our
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Speaker 2: job is a convincement to vote for us, and that's
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Speaker 2: only going to happen if we fight for the things
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Speaker 2: that will matter to them on the weekend. I've spoke
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Speaker 2: at the New so far As Nationals Conference saying we've
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Speaker 2: got to end this ESG rubbish that is seeing our
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Speaker 2: banks go to war with coal, gas, with even farming.
17:37
Speaker 2: I've been contacted by live export industry people that have
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Speaker 2: had their finance refused by our nation banks to conduct
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Speaker 2: a legal farming activity. That should end. That should end
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Speaker 2: because we need to back our country. We need banks
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Speaker 2: that are backing our country. We need businesses that are patriots.
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Speaker 2: And I'm nothing else but a patriot, and I'm not
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Speaker 2: in it for my own game or to make myself
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Speaker 2: feel good. I want to see our country succeed.
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Speaker 1: Matt Canavan, thank you so much indeed for your time
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Speaker 1: after the break betrayed how Donald trumps so called peace
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Speaker 1: deal has left Israel's prime minister fighting for his political life.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's so called peace deal with Iran is so shonky,
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Speaker 1: and I'll talk later to Sean Spicer about exactly how
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Speaker 1: shonky it is. I think might even already be falling
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Speaker 1: to bits. But it's also warning to America's allies don't
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Speaker 1: trust Trump. Israeli Prime Minister Beny mine yea who did,
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Speaker 1: and under him, Israel happily joined the US in bombing
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Speaker 1: Iran to supper ever getting a nuclear weapon they would
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Speaker 1: wipe out Israel. Yet Trump now signs a peace deal
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Speaker 1: with Iran, with it about Israel being part of it.
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Speaker 1: And worse, this deal, which is still secret, apparently binds
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Speaker 1: Israel by promising it will stop attacking the Hespelo Terrist
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Speaker 1: army in Lebanon that I ran pays to attack Israel.
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Speaker 1: And all this, of course has made net ye You've
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Speaker 1: seem weak just ahead of his elections in the October,
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Speaker 1: with all his main rivals saying that'd be tougher. He's
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Speaker 1: one of them.
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Speaker 5: Soon in Israel there'll be a new government hopefully I'll
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Speaker 5: lead that new government, and I want to tell the
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Speaker 5: Iranian regime from here, the regime, I'm going to be
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Speaker 5: your worst nightmare ever. I won't relent until we free
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Speaker 5: your people, ensure you don't have a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 1: Now, knowing that Trump has sold him out down the
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Speaker 1: river or wherever net Yeah has gone on TV decide whatever.
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Speaker 1: Trump's piece still says he will hit back if Hesbel attacks,
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Speaker 1: and he won't pull out these ready soldiers now creating
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Speaker 1: a buffer in Lebanon to stop Hiszbela flying attack drones
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Speaker 1: from the border. You'll stay in the security zone. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: who also insisted the or wasn't for nothing. He rounds
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Speaker 1: for regime survives and it still has the uranium enriched
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Speaker 1: enriched for a nuclear bonds in Much of its military
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Speaker 1: and nuclear infrastructure had been blown to bits. Generally from
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Speaker 1: Jerusalem is Mark Sofa whose Australia. Who's Israel's ambassador Australian
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Speaker 1: also India must say, probably the best ambassador Israel ever
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Speaker 1: sent out here. But Mark, let me stop oiling oiling
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Speaker 1: up your reputation there. Donald Trump's so called peace steel
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Speaker 1: has it hurt? Bennyminneh Yahu, Well, Andrew.
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Speaker 9: He certainly hasn't come out triumphant, that's obvious. He spent
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Speaker 9: his entire political career finding ways or tempting to find
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Speaker 9: ways to get rid of this Iranian regime, to bring
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Speaker 9: it to its knees. And what we have is a
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Speaker 9: in front of us or what we know of the deal,
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Speaker 9: which in itself, actually, as you said earlier, is amazing
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Speaker 9: that despite the fact that Israel is directly involved in
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Speaker 9: this conflict, we don't know what the actual deal is
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Speaker 9: until this moment. But nonetheless what we do know is
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Speaker 9: clearly not exactly a victory for the Natanyahu approach, which
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Speaker 9: will definitely harm him, although it's too early to say
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Speaker 9: how deep that plan will be as the election moves
21:17
Speaker 9: for as the date of the election moves closer.
21:20
Speaker 1: To us.
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Speaker 9: I clearly he's been criticized with it throughout the country,
21:25
Speaker 9: including in his own government, and his approach about saying
21:29
Speaker 9: that the regime or the military installations in Iran have
21:33
Speaker 9: suffered terribly, as of course they have, but now that
21:37
Speaker 9: Iran will probably get the wherewithal the military, the military
21:40
Speaker 9: and the more importantly the financial wherewithal to rebuild its military,
21:46
Speaker 9: to re arm its proxies in the Hamastris, Belign, Lebanon
21:50
Speaker 9: in the Gaza. This is pretty much of a short
21:52
Speaker 9: term victory if at all.
21:58
Speaker 1: Yes. On the financial thing, we're told that he Ran
22:03
Speaker 1: will gradually, it's performance based get access to the roughly
22:07
Speaker 1: three hundred billion US dollars in frozen assets that it
22:10
Speaker 1: desperately needs, so goodness knows what it would do with that.
22:14
Speaker 1: But more importantly, Mark the has this deal hurt Israel?
22:19
Speaker 1: Do you think? I mean, you know, the war probably
22:22
Speaker 1: what could do if America is inclined to attack the
22:27
Speaker 1: Iran and Israel would gladly join in. I'm not faulting
22:31
Speaker 1: on that, but this peace steal, does it hurt Israel? Yes?
22:37
Speaker 9: I think the answer to that is across the board,
22:40
Speaker 9: almost all analysts agree that it does. It's It's not
22:44
Speaker 9: a good deal for Isaul under any circumstances. They still
22:47
Speaker 9: have the enriched iran uranium within their own borders, and
22:51
Speaker 9: we know how good this diabolical Iranian regime is in
22:56
Speaker 9: negotiating and playing around, including with the American US administration,
23:00
Speaker 9: So they still have that, They still have the Ribella intact,
23:03
Speaker 9: and they still have Hamas which they will support. They
23:07
Speaker 9: will get their three hundred billion dollars plus additional oil
23:10
Speaker 9: revenues or don't know or whatever is coming in. They
23:13
Speaker 9: will certainly not use it for the good of their
23:14
Speaker 9: own people, because that's not what this Iranean regime does.
23:18
Speaker 9: It uses it for instability, for menting instability, hatred, and
23:21
Speaker 9: death and destruction wherever it places its nefarious fingers. So
23:25
Speaker 9: I don't think that that money will be used for
23:28
Speaker 9: building hostels, roads, et cetera.
23:31
Speaker 1: It will be used.
23:32
Speaker 9: For arming Chrisbala, re arming the Hamas, and generally speaking,
23:39
Speaker 9: to continue to ferment instability in the region, and most
23:43
Speaker 9: important or not the most importantly, extremely importantly in attacking
23:47
Speaker 9: its own people within Iran, which it does without compunction.
23:52
Speaker 9: So we're facing now in Iran, which is renewed in strength.
23:56
Speaker 9: It's renewed a regime which has a has suffered militarily,
24:00
Speaker 9: but we'll have the wherewithal to move forward. And while
24:05
Speaker 9: they claim that there's not going to be no nuclear weaponry,
24:07
Speaker 9: they've been saying that for years. Of course it's a
24:10
Speaker 9: must that they will have no nuclear weaponry, but the
24:12
Speaker 9: ballistic missile program they have will continue to foster the
24:18
Speaker 9: support of their proxies will continue, and it's clearly not
24:22
Speaker 9: a good deal for Israel even from what we know
24:24
Speaker 9: about it until now. And I think that Antaeo has
24:28
Speaker 9: something to really look and do a bit of self
24:30
Speaker 9: searching how he can salvage what he can in the
24:34
Speaker 9: remaining time that there is until the final view is.
24:38
Speaker 1: Is signed. I'm glad you mentioned that the oil tankers
24:44
Speaker 1: are run under the steel. We don't know. It's bizarre.
24:47
Speaker 1: We do not know what this deal contains, but we
24:50
Speaker 1: do know that Don Trump says the oil will be
24:52
Speaker 1: allowed to flow immediately, and that includes the irrainy and oil.
24:56
Speaker 1: So from the start, without anything else happening, Iran will
25:00
Speaker 1: be getting some valuable currency. The regime will to keep going. Look,
25:05
Speaker 1: don't you think it's bizarre, really bizarre? Mark that you know,
25:10
Speaker 1: as you know Beny and know who's been demonized throughout
25:14
Speaker 1: the West, throughout the world. You know it's a warmonger
25:17
Speaker 1: and all this. If any there wasn't better MiNet now
25:19
Speaker 1: there would be peace and whatever and all that. But
25:22
Speaker 1: its arrivals and now saying look no it is weak,
25:24
Speaker 1: will be tougher way till we're in charge. How on
25:28
Speaker 1: earth did that happen.
25:30
Speaker 9: Well, that maybe maybe the premise was wrong. Andrew, I'm
25:35
Speaker 9: as you know, and I've said it on this shows
25:36
Speaker 9: a number of times. I'm not the greatest fan of
25:38
Speaker 9: of NETANIAO in this particular government that we have, but
25:41
Speaker 9: I think.
25:41
Speaker 1: The premise was wrong.
25:42
Speaker 9: I do believe that the one clause of its statement
25:46
Speaker 9: or axiom that war is an extension of politics by
25:50
Speaker 9: other means is correct. Certainly, in the Middle East conflict
25:53
Speaker 9: war sometimes unfortunately, military conflict unfortunately is necessary. We're facing
25:58
Speaker 9: the worst of the worst neighbors that we can possibly
26:01
Speaker 9: have that any country can possibly have. An Iranian regime,
26:05
Speaker 9: is Bala, failed states in Lebanon and Syra, which hopefully
26:10
Speaker 9: will redress itself, and of course the Hamas. But we
26:12
Speaker 9: have to have some sort of of political exits to this.
26:16
Speaker 9: We cannot just rely on another war and another conflict.
26:20
Speaker 9: And again, the Americans have their own The United States
26:23
Speaker 9: has its own have their own interests, They have their
26:26
Speaker 9: own economic troubles with the oil flows and issues of
26:30
Speaker 9: that nature. But we're looking at it here in Israel
26:33
Speaker 9: from a completely different point of view, and of the
26:35
Speaker 9: danger that Iran existentially presents upon Israel and that danger
26:41
Speaker 9: still exists and will continue exist even after this peacetily signed,
26:48
Speaker 9: finally signed over and above the memorandum understanding that we
26:51
Speaker 9: have right now. So it's a little bit frightening, it's
26:54
Speaker 9: a little bit worrying, more than a little bit worrying.
26:57
Speaker 9: And we'll have to see now what we can salvage
27:00
Speaker 9: or what can be salvaged from this awful situation. I
27:03
Speaker 9: think that the Israeli people find themselves in.
27:09
Speaker 1: Mark Sofer is always great to get your insights, and
27:11
Speaker 1: particularly grateful that you squeeze this in in a busy
27:14
Speaker 1: evening for you. Thank you so much, indeed for your time.
27:17
Speaker 1: It's after the break, Sean Lovely. After the break Sean
27:22
Speaker 1: Spicer on this piece deal and whether Donald Trump really
27:27
Speaker 1: does like to watch men punching each other. Boy, And
27:34
Speaker 1: now I'm going to copy my emails today. You know,
27:37
Speaker 1: Trump arrangement syndrome. But really, this Iranian piece deal looks
27:41
Speaker 1: dodger and dodger. US President Donald Trump yesterday signed this
27:46
Speaker 1: deal with the Iran digitally, with the Iran Speaker of
27:49
Speaker 1: Parliamer Mohammed Galabaff's signing over in Tehran. They'll do an
27:53
Speaker 1: official signing in Switzerland on Friday. The thing is that
27:56
Speaker 1: Gullabuff isn't actually the top leader in Iran. He doesn't
27:59
Speaker 1: have the gun man he runs Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
28:03
Speaker 1: does and they see him against this, and so are
28:07
Speaker 1: some of Trump's top team. Axios reports that the CIA
28:11
Speaker 1: director down Sirun's are ten tensions downs. Iran will really
28:16
Speaker 1: give up its uranium like Trump claims, and so does
28:20
Speaker 1: Secretary say Marco Rubio. But on the other side you
28:24
Speaker 1: got Vice President Jedi Vance, Rubio's big rival to replace Trump.
28:28
Speaker 1: He's all for it that this is not a smart man.
28:31
Speaker 1: Vance is now out there saying this deal, which is
28:34
Speaker 1: still secret, means Iran has agreed to open the strait
28:38
Speaker 1: of a Moose to oil tankers and no one will
28:41
Speaker 1: need to pay off Iran to use it.
28:44
Speaker 7: Our expectation is that the street is going to be
28:45
Speaker 7: opened in a toll free way for the long term.
28:50
Speaker 1: But right off the bat, Iran says, actually no ships
28:54
Speaker 1: will still have to pay Iran a so called service fee.
28:58
Speaker 10: We have always maintained that we do not seek to
29:01
Speaker 10: collect transit tours, but we will design and collect the
29:04
Speaker 10: necessary fees for the services.
29:06
Speaker 1: We will provide, and let's not forget this Piece deal
29:11
Speaker 1: is really just an agreement to talk about peace for
29:13
Speaker 1: sixty more days, and that would bring us to August,
29:17
Speaker 1: which is just three months before the half term elections
29:21
Speaker 1: that could cost Trump and his Republican Party control of
29:24
Speaker 1: the Senate and the House of Representatives. Does anyone seriously
29:27
Speaker 1: think Trump will, just three months out from those elections
29:31
Speaker 1: that make or break elections, that he'll say, I'm going
29:34
Speaker 1: to resume this war that I have claimed of already won.
29:39
Speaker 1: Let's go to a man who may know knowing Donald Trump,
29:43
Speaker 1: Sewn Spicer. He was Donald Trump's first White House spokesman.
29:46
Speaker 1: I talked to him a short while ago. Sewn Spicer
29:49
Speaker 1: always great to talk to you. Look, Sean, there is
29:52
Speaker 1: a reported split in Donald Trump's team on this Piece deal,
29:56
Speaker 1: if that's what you call it, with Iran Acxios now
29:59
Speaker 1: reporting Vice Present Jet Evans is all for it, but
30:03
Speaker 1: the head of the CIA and Secretary of Site Mac
30:06
Speaker 1: Rubia Guy I really respect. They doubt Iran could be
30:09
Speaker 1: trusted to give up its enriched uranium. And the fact
30:13
Speaker 1: that this is Leeke suggests that someone wants the will
30:16
Speaker 1: to know they are not happy their hands are clean.
30:19
Speaker 1: How big is this?
30:22
Speaker 10: Well, look the beautiful part about this, Andrew, and I
30:24
Speaker 10: will say without naming names because I asked, I was
30:27
Speaker 10: asked to keep this tight. I talked to two two
30:30
Speaker 10: very very senior administration officials today that are involved in this,
30:35
Speaker 10: and at the highest levels of the US government. They're
30:38
Speaker 10: making it very clear that it's a trust but verify situation.
30:42
Speaker 10: They are not. Look, no one is giving a Ran anything.
30:45
Speaker 10: They will have to. It's a performance based deal, meaning
30:48
Speaker 10: that if they don't do what they have agreed to do,
30:50
Speaker 10: they get nothing. They will be incentivized to do the
30:54
Speaker 10: right thing and to continue to do the right thing,
30:56
Speaker 10: but if they don't follow through, they get nothing. And
30:59
Speaker 10: that's what every single person from Donald Trump on down
31:02
Speaker 10: has made very clear. So I think lots of people,
31:07
Speaker 10: myself included, are skeptical of Iran, But in my conversations today,
31:12
Speaker 10: everybody has said, Number One, the calculus has changed, Their
31:16
Speaker 10: economy has cratered, and they understand that they need to
31:20
Speaker 10: do something to change that equation.
31:22
Speaker 1: And while this.
31:23
Speaker 10: May not be something that we've all thought would happen,
31:27
Speaker 10: there's a reality that's set in in Iran in terms
31:30
Speaker 10: of what they need to do to take care of
31:32
Speaker 10: their own economy, their own people. But there is also
31:37
Speaker 10: reality here in the United States about what we expect
31:39
Speaker 10: of them. If they do not perform, they get nothing.
31:44
Speaker 1: Sean, I'm glad to hear that. But without wanting to
31:47
Speaker 1: press you on who you've been talking to, as you
31:49
Speaker 1: say you've been told to keep it tight. Is this
31:52
Speaker 1: the view from both sides of this argument in the
31:54
Speaker 1: White House, the jdvent side and the Macabia side, or
31:59
Speaker 1: is it just the you know, the pro piece deal guys.
32:05
Speaker 10: Well, I will tell you it's an interesting question you're
32:10
Speaker 10: asking because I think that what the President has asked
32:12
Speaker 10: is everybody to give their analysis, and I don't think
32:16
Speaker 10: everyone's one hundred percent on the same page. But the
32:18
Speaker 10: number one, the reports that I have seen that you're
32:21
Speaker 10: reading an axios are not verified yet. There is nothing
32:23
Speaker 10: from Rubio's camp or anybody else that says that they're
32:26
Speaker 10: not on board on this. That's number one. Number two
32:29
Speaker 10: is I'm not so sure it's that off, meaning there
32:32
Speaker 10: is skepticism, and that's why everybody that I've talked to
32:36
Speaker 10: is in agreement that until we see our ram live
32:39
Speaker 10: up to the deal, they get nothing. So I think
32:41
Speaker 10: the reality is that I'm not really sure that there's
32:46
Speaker 10: that much of a disagreement to begin with. Some people
32:49
Speaker 10: believe that they'll live up to it more than others,
32:52
Speaker 10: but at the end of the day, what everybody seems
32:54
Speaker 10: to agree upon is that unless they actually do live
32:57
Speaker 10: up to the deal, they will get nothing.
33:00
Speaker 1: One big problem for me in this scenario, like him here,
33:03
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You know, they'll wait the O the
33:06
Speaker 1: sixty days to negotiate, no money unless they perform, although
33:10
Speaker 1: you know, we still haven't seen the terms of the deal,
33:12
Speaker 1: but that's what we're told. One big problem in this
33:15
Speaker 1: scenario is that after sixty days, that means a deadline
33:20
Speaker 1: in August for these talks, which is just three months
33:23
Speaker 1: before the midterm elections, which would cost Trump control of
33:27
Speaker 1: the House control of the Senate, which means in effect
33:31
Speaker 1: that Iran's going to have him over a barrel barrel
33:34
Speaker 1: of oil forgive the punt, won't it? Yes?
33:39
Speaker 10: But and let me tell you this, I actually think
33:41
Speaker 10: you and I are probably more simpatico than you thought.
33:44
Speaker 10: I believe we're going to get to that end of
33:45
Speaker 10: the sixty days, and then I wouldn't be surprised to
33:47
Speaker 10: see another sixty days. But here's where Donald Trump then
33:51
Speaker 10: regains his footing. Yes, he has to get through the
33:54
Speaker 10: midterm elections. Once he does that in November, then tad
33:58
Speaker 10: bar the door. If the Iranians have just offfuscated and
34:02
Speaker 10: attempted to buy time and whatever, my gut is that
34:06
Speaker 10: the day after those midterm elections, Donald Trump will bomb
34:09
Speaker 10: the crap out of them. So Iran may have a
34:12
Speaker 10: little bit of time to play with between now and
34:14
Speaker 10: the midterms, understanding the domestic situation we have here in
34:17
Speaker 10: the United States. But remember Donald Trump will be president
34:20
Speaker 10: for two and a quarter years after that election in November.
34:23
Speaker 10: So I would be very very careful if I were Iran,
34:26
Speaker 10: thinking that you're buying yourself anything more than a couple
34:29
Speaker 10: months at best. That's why I believe that short term,
34:34
Speaker 10: maybe they don't agree to everything, but at the end
34:36
Speaker 10: of the day, the second that that midterm election is done,
34:39
Speaker 10: he has nothing to lose but to bomb the crap
34:42
Speaker 10: out of him. So if I were them, I'd actually
34:44
Speaker 10: want to get a deal before it was too late.
34:48
Speaker 1: Now, Sean, I'm one of these guys. There was some
34:51
Speaker 1: sort of survey about how often men think about the
34:54
Speaker 1: Roman Empire. I put it in my hand. I think
34:57
Speaker 1: about it a lot. I thought about it particular on Sunday.
35:01
Speaker 1: You know, Donald Trump, for his birthday held a cage
35:04
Speaker 1: fights stage in the White House lawns, exactly like Roman
35:08
Speaker 1: emperors put on gladiator fights to please their public. Now
35:12
Speaker 1: you actually know Donald Trump. Does he genuinely like cage
35:15
Speaker 1: fights himself? Do you know? Or is he privately? You know,
35:19
Speaker 1: a guy like me likes his opera, he likes his
35:22
Speaker 1: good books. Does he just do this to show as
35:25
Speaker 1: a man to the blue collar worker?
35:28
Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I think he's a little of
35:30
Speaker 10: all of the above. If you listen to his playlist
35:32
Speaker 10: when he's out there on the marlogo patio, there's a
35:34
Speaker 10: little bit of opera that gets thrown in there. But
35:37
Speaker 10: but I actually, if you go back and look at
35:38
Speaker 10: Donald oh yeah, oh yeah, there's an opera there's that's
35:41
Speaker 10: mixed in there. But I will tell you go back
35:44
Speaker 10: and look at him. In the eighties he helped you know,
35:46
Speaker 10: he's big into fighting in Atlantic City, in a boxing
35:49
Speaker 10: that is. And then when when Dana White was launching
35:51
Speaker 10: the UFC, Donald Trump was one of the first investors.
35:54
Speaker 10: This is something that has been a long time passionate his.
35:56
Speaker 10: He's been going to fights, he's been investing in fights.
35:59
Speaker 1: You look at some of.
35:59
Speaker 10: His old time friends from back in the day that
36:03
Speaker 10: fighters are part of who he's been involved with. You
36:06
Speaker 10: even look on the Celebrity Apprentice, the folks that populated
36:09
Speaker 10: that he's This is something that I think is a
36:11
Speaker 10: genuine interest to his going back decades.
36:14
Speaker 1: Well, I got to confess, I was the boxing reporter
36:17
Speaker 1: for the Age newspaper for quite a while and I
36:19
Speaker 1: still watch boxing clips. But there you go. Maybe we're
36:23
Speaker 1: all renaissance men, men of it all parts. Sean. You
36:26
Speaker 1: certainly are a Navy volunteer and all this kind of stuff.
36:30
Speaker 1: Sean Spicer, thank you so much, indeed for your time.
36:33
Speaker 4: You bet.
36:34
Speaker 10: Well, maybe maybe we'll figure some other people throw in
36:36
Speaker 10: that cage. By the way, I think that Scott Besson
36:39
Speaker 10: and Bufficulty we could do.
36:40
Speaker 1: It would be great.
36:41
Speaker 10: I mean, start putting members of the cabinet in the
36:43
Speaker 10: cage while it's still there.
36:44
Speaker 1: Hi, how about the Ayatola versus Donald Trump? That could
36:47
Speaker 1: be a real man. I think that had explode on
36:51
Speaker 1: the ratings. But thank you so much, you bet.
36:57
Speaker 10: Now.
36:57
Speaker 1: Sean did tell me off that when he said, don Trump,
36:59
Speaker 1: this is to the opera. It was the Phantom of
37:01
Speaker 1: the Opera. I'm not sure does that count? Does that count?
37:05
Speaker 1: I don't know. After the break Pennywong's me too stunts
37:09
Speaker 1: saying she believes women who make rape claims against Israel
37:18
Speaker 1: before I go to a very funny footage shop by
37:21
Speaker 1: One Nation staff for good Onia Liam. That just proves
37:25
Speaker 1: my thesis. By the way, so much of One Nation
37:28
Speaker 1: support now I think is driven by the sheer fun
37:30
Speaker 1: of it, you know, making those camera people dance, you know,
37:34
Speaker 1: and whatever party gives you the laughs. But I'll show
37:37
Speaker 1: you later. But Penny Wong something far more serious, How
37:42
Speaker 1: foreign minister is yet against me at Israel and to
37:45
Speaker 1: do it though she's even repeated one of the most
37:47
Speaker 1: dangerous injustices of the me too movement. I'll show you
37:50
Speaker 1: something amazing about that. Last month, eleven anti Israel protests
37:55
Speaker 1: has returned to Australia after being arrested trying to break
37:59
Speaker 1: Israel's blockade terrorist Rum Gaza, and they came back from
38:03
Speaker 1: being detained by Israel. Were terrible stories of wicked Israeli
38:07
Speaker 1: soldiers attacking them. His one, Juliet Lamont, as she touched, I.
38:11
Speaker 11: Was sectually assaulted in this kind of torture chamber, and
38:14
Speaker 11: five men were bashing me and smashing my face, and
38:18
Speaker 11: then it just continued for the whole time.
38:22
Speaker 1: Five men smashing her face, yet not a single bruise,
38:25
Speaker 1: quick healer. She also said a tailbone was broken, yet
38:29
Speaker 1: thankfully she walked and sat without a sign of pain
38:31
Speaker 1: as far as I could see. Miracle. I should also
38:34
Speaker 1: add that when Lamont and the others were released the
38:36
Speaker 1: stranium see staff em it. The first the Istanbul airport
38:39
Speaker 1: reported that no Australians required immediate medical attention beyond the
38:43
Speaker 1: provision of basic first aid supplies. I'm assuming they need
38:47
Speaker 1: nothing more than perhaps a band aid or aspirin. Back
38:50
Speaker 1: in Australia, Lamont's story about those evils Israeli soldiers became
38:55
Speaker 1: more and more lurid.
38:57
Speaker 11: I was slapped and kicked. I was actually assaulted. They
39:02
Speaker 11: threw me on the ground, They broke my COCKSIX. I
39:04
Speaker 11: was dragged to a really dark container ship and then
39:08
Speaker 11: somebody says something like, you're going to really really enjoy this.
39:11
Speaker 11: I was kicked numerous times there was five men in there.
39:14
Speaker 11: They still had ballot clavers on that you could sort
39:15
Speaker 11: of see the silhouette of, you know how big they were.
39:18
Speaker 11: I was kicked, I was punched in the face. I
39:21
Speaker 11: was sexually assaulted. They pulled down my trousers and yeah,
39:25
Speaker 11: this sexually assaulted me.
39:27
Speaker 1: No really, I'm thinking, why were these soldiers holding and
39:31
Speaker 1: presumably searching strip searching these dozens of protests that had rested,
39:36
Speaker 1: and doing all this in a container where it was
39:38
Speaker 1: almost impossible to see anything that's weird. But by the end,
39:43
Speaker 1: La Monte's story had developed so many new and horrifying
39:46
Speaker 1: details that one hard left out literist and I reported
39:50
Speaker 1: that she's actually been cable tired and shackled soldiers standing
39:53
Speaker 1: on a leg. Now it's a rifle butt smashing into
39:56
Speaker 1: her head every time she turned her face away. And
40:00
Speaker 1: then the darken shipping container. Five soldiers excuse me if
40:04
Speaker 1: this distress is but raped it from behind while one
40:07
Speaker 1: soldier ripped fistfuls of hair from a scalp. And still
40:11
Speaker 1: no bruises or that we can see, or any medical
40:14
Speaker 1: evidence publicly released to prove these claims, which Israel. Of course,
40:20
Speaker 1: the Nis. Yeah, Green's colder Mary and Ferruki treat them
40:23
Speaker 1: all as true. I mean, boy, that woman hates Israel,
40:26
Speaker 1: and so did Foreign Minister Penny Wang, repeating that me too,
40:31
Speaker 1: trope of believing any allegation by a woman, no matter
40:35
Speaker 1: how unlikely. Minister, do you believe these women?
40:41
Speaker 8: Well, my principal position is to always believe women when
40:48
Speaker 8: allegations of sexual assaults are made.
40:52
Speaker 1: Always believe really. And then yesterday Wang actually met Lamont
40:57
Speaker 1: and other women from her anti Israel protests along with
41:00
Speaker 1: Multicultural Affairs mister Ann Aali and seeior members of the
41:04
Speaker 1: Australian Federal Police. Now I ask you, which are the
41:10
Speaker 1: women allegedly raped? Get that kind of political and very
41:14
Speaker 1: high level police attention. Join mey Amir Schlip, the executive
41:18
Speaker 1: director of Samuel Griffith Society. Michael Danby, former Federal labor
41:22
Speaker 1: politician and chairman of the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs,
41:25
Speaker 1: Defense and Trade. Now, Michael, I am not saying these
41:28
Speaker 1: processes are lying. I do not know the truth. What
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Speaker 1: I am saying is the monsters allegations raise questions that
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Speaker 1: have not been tested, and no politicians should ever believe
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Speaker 1: such damaging allegations simply because they were made by a woman.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that one of the lessons of the me too frenzy?
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Speaker 6: I think it is, Andrew. But the point that you
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Speaker 6: made in your introduction was that these people were greeted
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Speaker 6: by defed officials when they got off the boat, and
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Speaker 6: they were not in need of medical atems according to
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Speaker 6: d Fat at the time. So they come back to
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Speaker 6: Australia and Penny Wong platforms and elevates their accusations. Now,
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Speaker 6: Australia is a serious country.
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Speaker 1: Penny Wong.
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Speaker 6: You're the Foreign Minister of all Australians, not just the
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Speaker 6: anti Israel socialist left from Adelaide. And to give credence
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Speaker 6: to this, even if it's through the me too frame,
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Speaker 6: is de fame's all Australian. I just can't believe that
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Speaker 6: she actually went this far. I think, Andrew, it is
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Speaker 6: the worst of all of her two and a half
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Speaker 6: years of allegations since October seven happened against Israel. It's
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Speaker 6: the worst.
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Speaker 1: Given some of the ones of exposed here. That's a
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Speaker 1: big call. Mia Schlift. Your assessment of Wong's behavior.
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Speaker 12: Completely inappropriate, Andrew, and given Penny Wong's history, with her
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Speaker 12: anti Israel rhetoric. It is hard to see this as
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Speaker 12: anything other than her taking advantage of a political situation. Here.
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Speaker 12: The idea that identity politics should be thrown into our
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Speaker 12: administration of justice is completely backwards when it comes to
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Speaker 12: administering the rule of law in this country. It doesn't
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Speaker 12: matter whether an allegation is made by a woman a man.
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Speaker 12: It doesn't matter about their gender, their race, their religion,
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Speaker 12: none of it. That should not affect the administration of justice. However,
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Speaker 12: these allegations are really serious and they should be taken seriously.
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Speaker 12: But the days of our politicians throwing themselves into that
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Speaker 12: administration of justice needs to stop. They need to stop
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Speaker 12: seeing themselves as judge, dury and executioner because they consistently
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Speaker 12: get us wrong, and they have got it wrong many
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Speaker 12: times in the past.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, the Rouse and Rosopaul Enhance and I just
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Speaker 1: seems to have had you know, the coalition mini coalition
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Speaker 1: in peace on edge trying really hard to front up
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Speaker 1: and fight, but did show the treasure. Tim Wilson go
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Speaker 1: too far in Breakfast TV today debating with Labors and Rushworth.
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Speaker 11: Have listen, that is not true at all, and maybe
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Speaker 11: you should table your book, because of course you've argued
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Speaker 11: for these changes also, so these grow.
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Speaker 1: That's not true, that's true. Well you're telling me the.
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Speaker 10: Country screaming for help, and your answer to this is
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Speaker 10: to turn around and to censor and silence them.
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Speaker 6: There's a point in which Australians have.
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Speaker 1: This just didn't give it to people. That is, you
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Speaker 1: didn't give it to people at the last election.
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Speaker 10: You lied before the Australian people for the last election.
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Speaker 6: You now go through the Australians get to.
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Speaker 2: Have there about still running.
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Speaker 1: It's still running hot. We got well.
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Speaker 6: I mean, Amanda needs to get a breath.
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Speaker 1: Liser Michael even accusing Rishworth, it seemed to me were
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Speaker 1: implying that you might have had too much to drink.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is not too much. Is it a
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Speaker 1: vote winner?
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Speaker 6: It's a slate And I think poor old Tim needed
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Speaker 6: to fire up a bit some of the more conservative
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Speaker 6: elements of the Liberal Party who are saying that he's
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Speaker 6: been a bit weak as one of the wits. He's
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Speaker 6: a very smart guy, but he has a very sharp tongue.
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Speaker 6: You have to be careful with those kinds of things,
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Speaker 6: because particularly you don't want to alienate all of the
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Speaker 6: many women voters in Goldstein from the very liberal area
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Speaker 6: that he managed to get himself elected from.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? Miya?
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Speaker 12: Look, I can see it's an attention grabbing move. I
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Speaker 12: get it, but I have to say I'm a little
45:38
Speaker 12: bit over it. I think we've seen a number of
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Speaker 12: political stunts over the last few months, and I think
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Speaker 12: the Coalition is feeling hot under the collar with the
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Speaker 12: rise of One Nation. I think they are learning that
45:48
Speaker 12: if you actually stand up and fight for something, you
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Speaker 12: can receive a bit of support, which who knew. But
45:54
Speaker 12: in saying that, I'm a bit I'm a bit over
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Speaker 12: this feigned outrage. And I think back to some of
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Speaker 12: the great politicians we have seen this country in the past.
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Speaker 12: I think of John Howard. I think of examples oversees
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Speaker 12: as speeches that Winston church Hill used to give on
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Speaker 12: Margaret Thatcher. I think the way those speeches used to
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Speaker 12: stop a nation. And now I look at stunts such
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Speaker 12: as these, which are really just about grabbing thirty seconds
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Speaker 12: of attention on social media, and I have to say
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Speaker 12: I'm not inspired by it. I'm a bit over it,
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Speaker 12: and I'd like to see some standards return to politics
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Speaker 12: here in this country.
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Speaker 1: I don't think anger is a good political move, and
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Speaker 1: less it is cold anger. I'd want to show you
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Speaker 1: and apologies for the length of it. But one nation
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Speaker 1: I think has got the fun vote cornered at One Nation,
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Speaker 1: staff named Liam has gone undercover at an anti Pauline
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Speaker 1: Hanson rally of.
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Speaker 3: Looked I'm going to undercovered all protests against my boss
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Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 1: We're going to get dressed like a true progressive. I'm
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Speaker 1: good to go. I'm gonna hate him.
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Speaker 2: You know, I should just get the racist and a
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Speaker 2: home of the transfer.
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Speaker 1: I agree. I wouldn't be here.
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Speaker 7: There's more people here in the.
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Speaker 5: Job, and we're going to stop that by uniting under
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Speaker 5: one nation.
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Speaker 1: There's not welcome here. That's been a big.
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Speaker 6: Nothing.
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Speaker 9: Come on, I haven't been doing anything around socialist to
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Speaker 9: help you.
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Speaker 1: Gone, Michael, in the minute, we've got left first to you.
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Speaker 1: What do you make a video like that?
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Speaker 6: It's very imitative of the guy in New York who
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Speaker 6: goes to all the ANTIFA demonstrations and stirs the possum
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Speaker 6: with them. I think it's very funny, and you're right.
47:55
Speaker 6: Humor is always a very effective way of communicating your
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Speaker 6: message in politics, and all of the people in both
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Speaker 6: the liberal and labor buddies don't get it anymore. Elbow
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Speaker 6: seems to have completely lost these humorous bone.
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Speaker 1: And me. I mean you mentioned the anger, here's the fun.
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Speaker 1: I think the fund's more effective.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 12: And I think these are the social media stunts that
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Speaker 12: I actually don't mind. I think this is where it works.
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Speaker 12: I think it's authentic, and I think it's not as cringe.
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Speaker 12: It's not that feigned outrage. And I think it's great
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Speaker 12: to see, you know, some from the One Nation Party
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Speaker 12: going out and engaging with those people who don't support
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Speaker 12: those policies, just to see that the only real accusation
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Speaker 12: being thrown against Pauline Hanson is that she's a racist.
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Speaker 12: That seems to be all they've got. So I don't
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Speaker 12: mind stunts like these. I think it's good to see
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Speaker 12: that kind of personality come through politics politics.
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Speaker 1: Mischief. Michael Danby, thank you to you both. Let's it
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Speaker 1: from me. That's the Sherry Marks and good night,